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emgentsome problem in launchpad?00:40
emgentseems very slow now..00:40
beunoah, thought it was "just me"  :)00:40
beunokiko, is there something going on, or is it "abnormal"?00:41
cjwatsonbugs.edge.launchpad.net seems very slow at the moment, and I've had a few instances where it just returned a page saying that it had a problem connecting to the Launchpad servers. The 'syncbugbot' tool we use on drescher for handling Debian->Ubuntu sync requests (via bugs) seems to be completely unable to connect. Is something known to be wrong?00:45
beunocjwatson, you're the third one here complaining  (code hosting is slow too)00:46
* beuno pokes lifeless 00:46
* beuno pokes mthaddon 00:46
kikobeuno, cjwatson: it's working for us..00:47
beunokiko, it works, it's just *very* slow00:48
beunoI got  bzr: ERROR: xmlrpc protocol error connecting to https://xmlrpc.edge.launchpad.net/bazaar/: 502 Bad Gateway00:48
beunoa few minutes ago00:48
mwhudsonit doesn't seem too bad to me either00:48
beunoand now, it's been ~15 minutes to push (it's autopacking)00:48
cjwatsonjust got 503 from sync-source.py00:50
cjwatsonwhile talking to the librarian by the looks of things00:50
kikoyeah, tom's restarting the librarian.00:50
kikohang on there -- think it was a memory issue.00:50
mthaddonyeah, librarian's been having issues - I just restarted it00:50
* cjwatson guesses it takes a while to come up, since still the same thing00:52
kikocjwatson, beuno: can you try again and confirm?00:56
kikowe know what it is00:56
kikotom's using a little hammer first now00:56
emgentlaunchpad free. :)00:56
kikookay00:56
kikoshould be fixed now00:56
kikono big hammer necessary!00:56
beunokiko, seems much faster now, thanks00:56
cjwatsonkiko: seems to have recovered; thanks to you and Tom00:58
kikothanks for reporting things, beuno, cjwatson -- we are having a weird week00:59
beuno:)01:03
emgentthanks kiko :)01:06
emgentkiko: there are another problem in launchpad with icons01:16
emgents/problem/problems/01:17
kikoemgent, oh?01:18
emgentkiko: https://edge.launchpad.net/~emgent01:19
emgentbzr, bugs icons dont work01:19
emgent(in Most active in)01:20
kikoemgent, worked for me -- try reloading?01:20
emgentyes but dont work.. uhm it will try to kill firefox and reopen it.01:21
emgentkiko: nothing, dont work :\01:22
kikoemgent, weird, wfm.01:22
emgenthttp://thc.emanuele-gentili.com/~emgent/argh.png01:23
beunoemgent, I can see the gentoo icons just fine01:24
emgentargh, now i can see only question icon01:24
beunohave you tried control + f5?01:24
emgentbeuno: yes ..01:25
emgenthttp://thc.emanuele-gentili.com/~emgent/argh2.png01:25
emgentweird..01:27
emgenthttp://thc.emanuele-gentili.com/~emgent/argh3.png01:28
emgentnow only brz and translate icons01:28
emgentkiko: ok now work fine.01:49
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xzcan you host bazaar repositories on launchpad?04:42
xza shared repository04:42
xzI'm having trouble understanding the bazaar concepts - does anyone want to help me decide the best way to organize a project?04:43
thumperxz: shared repo no04:46
thumperxz: we are working on deploying a different solution for sharing revisions04:46
thumperxz: which will give efficient storage and quick push/pull04:47
thumperwell, quick push anyway04:47
xzthumper: well with the current launchpad system, how would you organize this project...04:48
xzthree different directories, that should be able to be worked on independently, but that also belong in a single directory which is also under revision control04:49
xzis it possible to nest branches with bazaar?04:50
thumperkinda04:56
thumperxz: why not just have all within the same branch?04:56
xzthumper yeah I guess that is also possible04:57
thumperxz: how big are the directories?04:57
thumperxz: I guess it comes down to "do the difference directories work by themselves, or are they dependent on each other?"04:58
xzthumper small04:58
thumperxz: if they are part of a logical project, have one branch with the different directories in it04:59
xzthumper if I used a single branch (the parent directory) is it possible to filter the log to show a single directory at a time when necessary?04:59
thumperxz: you can show the log for a single file05:00
thumperxz: not sure about a directory and its contents05:00
thumperxz: if you ask for a log on a directory, you'll get the log of the directory as directories are versioned05:00
xzhow do you get a log for a single file?05:00
thumperxz: best to ask that question on #bzr05:00
thumperxz: bzr log filename05:00
thumperxz: bzr log directory/filename05:01
xzI thikn that shows all the revisions of the branch containing that file05:01
xzbut not just the ones affecting that file05:01
xzit's not a big deal. i think the single branch is probably the way to go05:02
wgrantxz: It definitely shows only those revisions that affect it.05:02
thumperI think that is probably the simplets05:02
thumpersimplest05:02
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jarlen_Hey09:21
jarlen_Is it possible to say which level of coding skill projects are normally looking for when offering mentorship? or does it vary too much?09:22
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qenseAre commits to bazaar repositories in launchpad also used to give people karma?09:39
mrevellqense: Hey, I'm pretty certain they don't.09:41
qenseah, thx09:41
qenseI already suspected something like that09:41
qensebut not at all?09:41
qenseI'm helping a bit out with a project and there are about 6 active persons, including me09:41
qensethe project elader, who commits almost all the code is fourth on the top contributors list09:42
qenseI'm second, although I've never written any code, I've just reported some bugs and messed a bit with some blueprints09:42
qensethe number one commited a few lines of code and did a lot of blueprint things 09:42
qenseso blueprints are very important if you want to get karma09:42
wgrantBugs are always useful for karma. That's where I get most of mine.09:43
Ngthe majority of my karma is listed as coming from "Bazaar Branches", so code must be involved somehow09:45
Ngmaybe it's just the act of registering a branch though09:45
wgrantIIRC only branch registrations get you karma, right.09:45
qenseshouldn't that be changed?09:46
wgrantI guess it's hard to quantify commits.09:46
qensebut the amount of karma you get for simple blueprint edits is insanely high09:48
qenseif that would be lowered a bit and you'd get karma for a commit based on the numer of lines09:48
qense(not 1 line = x karma, but 0-20 lines = x karma)09:49
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Zicmrevell: hi, no « good » news for me heh ? :)10:18
mrevellZic: Let me poke someone10:18
Zicthanks10:19
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mptGooooooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!11:01
mrevellZic: Can you remind me of when you made the change, please?11:04
Zicmrevell: 3 days now, iirc11:04
mrevellZic: So, Saturday?11:05
Zicsaturday afternoon I believe11:05
mrevellZic: One of my colleagues in our sysadmin team is going to manually review the queue of email address changes. With any luck, your email address will be working again today, but if not hopefully tomorrow.11:06
Zicmrevell: thanks for time you spend for my problem :)11:06
mrevellZic: No problem!11:07
wgrantcprov: So it was a race condition over more than 11 hours...?11:08
cprovwgrant: no, I'm comment it again ... the version 0.8.6.release.e+x264svn20071224+faad2.6.1-0ubuntu3 was almost certainly uploaded *before* the override was done and stuck in UNAPPROVED queue.11:09
Hobbseehey mpt!11:09
wgrantcprov: Ohhh, right, that makes sense.11:09
wgrantSo it's bug #180218.11:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 180218 in soyuz "override mismatch race needs to be fixed" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18021811:10
cprovwgrant: let me check the timestamps11:10
wgrantIt was a bit over a month before release, so it could have been beta freeze.11:11
wgrantcprov: Yep, Hardy was frozen earlier that day for BetaFreeze.11:12
wgrantThat explains it.11:12
wgrantSorry for the dupe.11:12
cprovwgrant: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+queue?queue_state=3&queue_text=vlc&start=6011:12
cprovwgrant: the upload was in UNAPPROVED since April 12th11:12
cjwatsonCodehosting is very slow, and http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/kubuntu.intrepid/files is persistently returning "Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server." for me. Is something up?11:13
wgrantYes, that explains it :(11:13
cprovwgrant: nice, I've dupped it. Thanks for the report, it was also a opportunity to document the investigation procedure and check if it can be done entirely via UI.11:17
wgrantIt might be nice to have SPR/BPR queue timestamps visible somewhere rather than having to poke through the queues and make educated guesses, but it's probably possible now.11:19
wgrantcprov: Any idea when that will be fixed? It's unfortunate that it will only happen soon before releases, as it means we'll rarely be able to fix it.11:25
cprovwgrant: it's very unlikely that it will be fixed before August, I'm sorry.11:27
wgrantcprov: OK.11:27
LaneyCan I gently poke someone to my question which has been idle for a little while now ;) https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/3516511:39
intellectronicaLaney: sorry that we still haven't got an answer for you. i really hope we'll be able to resolve this within the next few days11:41
Laneyintellectronica: Okey dokey, thank you11:41
kikointellectronica, do we know what the problem is?11:55
kikointellectronica, IS confirmed that we are indeed receiving the email in the DC11:56
intellectronicakiko: we don't. i know that we do receive the email, but not why it's not being processed11:56
kikointellectronica, okay, thanks.11:56
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icyhi there. Is it possible to transfer or somehow reregister a project on launchpad?12:18
icywe thought about moving stuff to launchpad but realized that there is already a project registered for it. but not by the real devs12:19
joostvburl's like http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~joostvb/mailman/pgp-smime/changes show an error: "there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server". for about an hour now.12:22
joostvbperhaps the fact http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ <whatever> is malfunctioning should be added to the channel's topic...12:24
beunomwhudson_, ^   LH has been getting worse the past few days12:24
beunojoostvb, yes, it probably should, but, AFAIK, it's being worked on, and should be fixed soon12:24
joostvbbeuno: a, thanks12:24
thumpericy: you can get ownership transferred12:27
thumpericy: just ask a question on the launchpad project12:28
thumpericy: those get answered by the admins, who have the ability to change the ownership of the projects12:28
icyok so I file a question under "answers" to request transfer of ownership. how do I make sure the admins get hold of it?12:32
icyI mean, they surely don't track every question posted in any project12:33
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joostvbicy: di 24 13:28 < thumper> icy: just ask a question on the launchpad project12:36
icyjoostvb: sorry but I may have misunderstood it12:38
icyshould I ask the question _here_, stating the projectname or on launchpad.net on the project page?12:39
joostvbicy: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad  <- i guess that's where you should ask your question12:39
icyah, thank you for making that clear :)12:40
joostvbnp :)12:41
gnomefreakasac: can you please look/test/upload flash 10 to hardy backports? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=flashplugin-nonfree is the revu link12:50
gnomefreakdamn12:51
gnomefreakignore the above please12:51
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Dauerbaustellehi, bazaar doesn't work at the moment13:06
Dauerbaustellecan someone confirm this13:07
matsubaraDauerbaustelle: can't works is a bit too vague. can you give an specific example?13:07
matsubaras/works/work/13:07
Dauerbaustellenow, the online bazaar.launchpad.net/~user/branch interface doesnt work13:08
Dauerbaustelle"Please try again" and so on :P13:09
joostvbDauerbaustelle: it's being worked on, and should be fixed soon13:14
DauerbaustelleThx - what does "soon" mean?13:14
Dauerbaustelle10 minutes? An hour? One day?13:14
joostvbDauerbaustelle: dunno, beuno told me about it13:14
joostvbDauerbaustelle: i believe it has been broken for a couple of hours now13:15
DauerbaustelleO__o13:15
* joostvb goes afk, enjoying the sun. lp is broken anyway :)13:16
Dauerbaustelle:D13:16
Dauerbaustellehf13:16
kikobeuno, why do you say codebrowse is meant to be down?13:20
Dauerbaustellenow, it works13:20
DauerbaustelleYes13:21
Dauerbaustelletwo minutes ago it didn't work13:21
joostvb\o/13:21
Dauerbaustelle\m/13:21
Dauerbaustelle;)13:21
beunokiko, I didn't...  :/13:24
beunojust said it was being worked on, and that it's been misbehaving the past few days13:24
kikookay. that's weird, definitely13:25
DauerbaustelleSometimes, Launchpad really sucks13:25
beunoDauerbaustelle, it's just been slow the past few days. It's not the general case13:27
beunoat all13:27
lagaheh13:27
Dauerbaustellebeune, now this wasn't the first time13:27
HobbseeDauerbaustelle: here's a beer.  drink up13:27
beunoand not Launchpad in general, just codebrowse, a specific app13:27
Hobbsee(it's the only reasonable thing to do when the part of launchpad you require breaks when you want to use it)13:28
kikoDauerbaustelle, are you talking about codebrowse, or lp.net itself?13:28
DauerbaustelleHobbsee: Oh, thanks13:28
Dauerbaustellekiko: Now, about launchpad-bazaar in general13:28
HobbseeDauerbaustelle: your'e welcome.13:28
kikoDauerbaustelle, I don't understand "in general" -- I need specifics to be able to fix problems :)13:29
Dauerbaustellekiko: Well, I'll tell you about all my problems xD13:29
Kamping_Kaiserhi all. i used the ppa to build a package, but it has the same name as an existing ubuntu package. is there some way i can specifiy to install from ppa?13:30
Dauerbaustellekiko, sometimes (p.e. 2 or 3 weeks ago), lp bzr pushing didn't work, code browsing didn't work; merging doesn't work right way....13:30
kikoDauerbaustelle, during our announced Hardy upgrade outage?13:31
kikoKamping_Kaiser, you can specify a specific version.13:31
HobbseeKamping_Kaiser: make the version number higher than the ubuntu one.13:31
Kamping_KaiserHobbsee, i thought i did. gues i'll have to try again13:32
Dauerbaustellekiko, I don't know which time this was but I remember that we thought of migrating our project to another bzr host / version management application because Launchpad didn't work anymore13:32
Dauerbaustellebut I remember that such problems where there even before13:33
kikoDauerbaustelle, I don't know of any of this. I do know we had some planned and announced downtime for a hardy upgrade last week.13:34
kikoDauerbaustelle, if you don't tell us about problems you're having we can't ensure you get a good experience!13:34
Dauerbaustellekiko, I promise that I'll do in future )13:35
Dauerbaustelle:)13:35
cjwatsonKamping_Kaiser: "specify a specific version": apt-get install foo/1.1.0+ppa1 (or whatever)13:35
kikothanks! :)13:35
lagakiko: are you saying we should complain in here as soon as we see issues in launchpad, even if it's just slowness?13:35
cjwatsonthough not necessary if the version is higher13:35
Kamping_Kaisercjwatson, i'll give that a crack, thank you13:35
cjwatsonKamping_Kaiser: erm, sorry, I meant foo=1.1.0+ppa1 not foo/1.1.0+ppa113:35
cjwatsonsee apt-get(8)13:36
Hobbseelaga: as long as you complain efficiently, it appears so.13:36
lagayay.13:36
kikolaga, depends on what you mean by slowness. if it's something which is stopping you from getting your work done, then sure. if it's mild or transient or perpetual then it's harder to tell whether it's a problem on our end or on yours13:36
Hobbseelaga: however, you have to find positive stuff about launchpad as well, so you don't appaer to be slagging it all the time, so you won't just get ignored.13:36
lagaHobbsee: i know.13:36
Kamping_Kaisercjwatson, foo=blah worked , thank you again :)13:37
lagai love the PPAs. (complaint++;)13:37
Dauerbaustellenow, bzr works, everythings fine :D13:37
DauerbaustelleI'll report all my probs in future, promised - cu all! Have a nice day13:37
kikoHobbsee, you are very precise. :)13:43
Hobbseekiko: hmm?13:43
kikohmm what!13:44
Hobbseekiko: well, a) what do you mean? and b) is that a good thing, or a bad thing?13:45
kikoit is a good thing13:45
bimberiIn package versioning is version 1.1~ppa1 superceded by version 1.1?  I think I've seen that but wouldn't be definitely sure about it.13:46
Hobbseebimberi: yes.13:47
Hobbseeassuming i've got the correct meaning of superceeded.13:47
kikoand the correct spelling. :)13:47
Hobbseekiko: right.13:47
bimberi:)13:47
cjwatsonspelling: superseded13:54
cjwatson(in British English too!)13:54
cjwatsonbimberi: you can check the answer to that kind of question like this:13:55
cjwatson$ dpkg --compare-versions 1.1~ppa1 lt 1.1; echo $?13:55
cjwatson013:55
cjwatson0 means "comparison is true", non-0 means "comparison is false"13:55
Hobbseecjwatson: sigh.  we australians appear to suck at spelling, then.13:55
* Hobbsee waves south to bimberi13:55
cjwatsonHobbsee: almost nobody gets that one right ...13:55
bimbericjwatson: thanks13:56
Hobbseecjwatson: ahhh.13:56
cjwatsonBritish people are particularly bad at it because the s vs. c change is so prevalent elsewhere13:56
bimberisuperceded is ok aiui13:56
cjwatsonbimberi: no, it's wrong13:56
cjwatsonit's based on an incorrect guess that the etymology is like other -cede words; in fact it comes from Latin sedere13:56
bimbericjwatson: ah, righto then.13:57
* bimberi waves south to Hobbsee 13:58
bimberiI live in Armidale now :)13:58
Hobbseebimberi: ahh, nice!13:58
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* bimberi double-took, was confused for a while, but then found out that 0 means _true_ for 'dpkg --compare-versions'14:19
bimberiI'm too used to python14:20
bimberiArgh, and cjwatson said that! (missed it).  Back to lurking then.14:26
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Suigintoudoes launchpad have rss feeds for branch commits?16:27
stdinSuigintou: looks like it does16:29
Suigintouahh, found it, had to look for the atom icon :)16:32
Suigintoumakes it easier to integrate a CI/build server16:35
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kikoSuigintou, yeah, exactly17:08
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prtkHello! I am trying to push a branch into launchpad, but I am getting an error  - Permission denied (publickey).17:30
prtkbzr: ERROR: Connection closed: please check connectivity and permissions (and try -Dhpss if further diagnosis is required)17:30
prtkI have made my SSH key and have updated launchpad but i am still getting the error. I am a n00b. Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong17:30
beunoprtk, have you done:  "bzr launchpad-login username" yet?17:32
prtkbeuno: no17:33
beunoprtk, try setting that with your LP username17:34
beunodo you have other SSH keys?17:34
prtkbeuno: Just have one! "bzr launchpad-login prtksxna" returns nothing17:34
beunoprtk, that's a one time thing you have to set17:35
beunoprtk, can you try again now?17:35
prtkI did samething again17:36
Suigintoutry committing17:42
cyberixHow do I attach a remote bug db url?17:42
Suigintouor pushing17:42
cyberixfor a bug report17:42
cyberixnever mind17:43
cyberixno, actually mind17:45
cyberixThe upstream project has to be registered?17:45
matsubaracyberix: yes, and then you register a new bugtracker in https://edge.launchpad.net/bugs/bugtrackers/+newbugtracker17:46
cyberixBut I'm sure GNOME is registered17:46
cyberix:-D17:46
cyberixI just can't find it from the bug ui17:46
matsubaraprtk: did bzr push work for you after beuno's instruction?17:47
prtkmatsubara: no :(17:47
prtkmatsubara: Someone at #bzr is helping me out...17:47
matsubaraprtk: cool. once you have a solution can you tell me? I'm about to create a FAQ for that on launchpad17:48
cyberixI search for gnome and I get 40+ pages of results17:48
prtkmatsubara: Sure17:48
cyberixWhat am I supposed to do17:48
prtkmatsubara: It'll be something really stupid though, I am a big n00b17:48
matsubaraprtk: no problem. I've seen others asking the same question here, so having it as FAQ won't hurt :-)17:49
prtkmatsubara: ok17:49
matsubaracyberix: do you have the remote bug url?17:50
vadi2Where can I find out information on what do project drivers can do and such? The search bar just directs me to "SprintDrivers" always17:50
cyberixmatsubara: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53999017:51
ubottuGnome bug 539990 in gtk "Support Freedesktop.org Clipboard Specification" [Minor,Unconfirmed] 17:51
cyberixmatsubara: I'm trying to link that up with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/24272217:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 242722 in gtk+2.0 "Support Freedesktop.org Clipboard Specification" [Undecided,New] 17:51
matsubaracyberix: click the Also affects: + Project link and add the url there17:51
cyberixThere is no project in Launchpad named "http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=539990". Please search for it as it may be registered with a different name.17:52
ubottuGnome bug 539990 in gtk "Support Freedesktop.org Clipboard Specification" [Minor,Unconfirmed] 17:52
matsubaramrevell: do we have any docs on what drivers can do? can you help out vadi217:55
mrevellhey matsubara17:56
pkernSo the new bug actions still isn't live?17:56
mrevellhey vadi217:56
matsubaracyberix: worked for me17:56
vadi2hello17:56
cyberixWow17:56
matsubaracyberix: if you reload the bug you'll see the bugwath there.17:56
mrevellvadi2: We don't have a specific document that says what project drivers can do. Our new user guide, which I'm working on, covers what drivers can do in different contexts. I'll file a bug now saying that we need a doc describing the role of a driver and then I'll write one.17:57
cyberixIt seems that it worked, it just gave me an error message17:57
cyberix:-P17:57
vadi2mrevell: ok. I thought being in a team that's the driver of a project would give me some administrative powers (like for example I need to change if a branch is mirrored/hosted, 'cause the owner messed up), but it's not letting me. so I'm a bit confused17:58
matsubaracyberix: right, that's because you were using the ubuntu/+bug/242722 url and the bug had been re-targeted to the correct sourcepackage context17:58
matsubaracyberix: of course, you shouldn't have to know that :-)18:00
cyberixWell, atleast it works now.18:02
cyberixThanks18:02
matsubarayou're welcome18:03
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prtkmatsubara: The error seems to persist :(18:16
LarstiQmatsubara: we've confirmed the public key is the same on prtk's system and what launchpad claims. Can you confirm for me it's actually in place too? (There used to be a cronjob that took care of things iirc)18:18
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sp07i am trying to create a package for the new version of the Electric Sheep18:36
sp07we are having trouble with gconftool18:37
prtkmatsubara: Are you there?18:50
matsubaraprtk: yep18:51
prtkmatsubara: Problem resolved18:51
matsubaraprtk: great. how did you solve?18:51
prtkmatsubara: a) My SSH key weren't in the right place (/Users/prateeksaxena/.ssh) and didnt have the correct name ("id_dsa.pub")18:52
prtkmatsubara: My public key did not match with what I had uploaded18:53
prtkmatsubara: Being new to SSH keys I had no idea what to do with them18:53
matsubararight prtk. thanks for letting me know. I thought it was related with the launchpad-login bzr login. Since it's not, I don't think a FAQ will help in that case. https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+faq/114 already covers setting up ssh keys, etc.18:55
prtkmatsubara: ok18:57
LarstiQmatsubara: one thing that I didn't catch onto early on was that prtk didn't interpret ~ as meaning the homedir. So there was /Users/prateeksaxena/myrpoject/.ssh/19:01
LarstiQmatsubara: I don't know how common that is under the other people having problems19:02
matsubaraLarstiQ: thanks. Updated wiki.u.c/LaunchpadStepByStepInstructions to be explicit about it.19:13
LarstiQmatsubara: cool, thanks19:19
LarstiQmatsubara: is there specific reasoning for dsa instead of rsa keys?19:19
matsubaraLarstiQ: don't know. 19:21
LarstiQmatsubara: ok, wonder how that has affected the recent Debian openssh key debacle19:22
* LarstiQ heads off19:22
kikoLarstiQ, not that I know of -- I think it was just what the person who wrote the doc first used.19:35
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thekornhi, are there currently running two different versions of edge at the same time? on most load everything seems to be ok,20:44
thekornbut on every 5th load or so the page layout is weird and it takes signifivcantly longer to load20:45
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kikothekorn, yes, we are20:50
kikothekorn, we're trying out a version of storm on the edge servers20:50
kikowe're rotating it in slowly20:50
kikobut will probably move over entirely soon20:50
thekornkiko, ok, thanks20:51
kikothekorn, thanks very much -- and please keep hammering. we're aware it will be a bit slower right now, but we've got fixes queued for that as well20:52
LarstiQkiko: is it storm that is slower atm?20:55
kikoLarstiQ, no, it's the way we're using it -- the pages are optimized in certain ways that are a bit dumb, but we couldn't fix them all at once20:56
kikoI should know the optimizations are dumb -- I pioneered them :)20:56
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visik7hi guys 21:09
visik7why apport upload 16Mb of bugreport to just let me know that somebody else have already got the same crash ?21:10
kikovisik7, how would we know if it's the same crash?21:18
visik7kiko: the title21:18
visik7the suggestion21:18
visik7you know?21:19
kikoyeah, right21:19
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LarstiQkiko: hmm, now you make me curious :)21:39
emgentlauncpad seems slow..21:39
emgentsomeone know why ?21:39
emgents/launcpad/launchpad/21:39
jkakarLooks like apache is serving "app servers are dead" pages. :(21:40
kikoLarstiQ, only because you know I'm really not a serious engineer :)21:41
jkakarAnd it's back! :)21:42
jkakarSeems like images are loading extraordinarily slowly.21:42
kikojkakar, is it just images, or everything?21:44
jkakarkiko: Everything is slower than usual, but images are *very* slow.21:45
jkakarkiko: Lemme try again, one sec.21:45
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jkakarkiko: Page text loaded in 1:23, images finished (apparently from launchpadlibrarian.net) in 2:48 for https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/landscape/+bug/241686.21:48
ubottujkakar: Error: This bug is private21:48
jkakarkiko: There is no load on the 2.5Mb internet connection here (in the UK) other than IRC.21:49
mthaddonjkakar, you in the UK?21:59
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jkakarmthaddon: Yep, in lovely lovely Leeds.22:03
mthaddonjkakar, Leeds, cool! always people wandering around in the freezing cold with only a t-shirt on - fantastic22:04
jkakarmthaddon: Hehe, you've been here apparently. :)22:04
mthaddon(well, not _only_ a t-shirt, but you know what I mean)22:04
jkakarmthaddon: The skirts are so short these days that it often looks like only a t-shirt. :)22:05
mthaddonthat's true - leeds is famous for that too22:06
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Rinchenjkakar, permanent move to uk or just visiting?23:28
jkakarRinchen: Just visiting.  My sister is in Leeds and I was already here for a sprint, so decided to stick around for a bit to hang out with her.23:31
Rinchenawesome23:31
RinchenI lost some good friends to leeds for year23:31
Rinchens23:31
Rinchenthey finally moved and resurfaced23:31
Rinchennot sure what it is about that place ;-)23:31
bachi Rinchen -- how was the camping?23:32
Rinchenhi there bac23:32
Rinchenit was good for the first day23:32
Rinchenthen the wife and son caught a nasty cold and we had to come home23:33
bacwhere were you?23:33
RinchenI got to do only 10 miles of hiking :-(23:33
RinchenGlacier Basin, Rocky Mtn National Park23:33
bacmy only camping experience in the RMNF was with my crazy uncle and torrential rains23:33
bacnothing like being cooped up in a tent for a weekend with a crazy person23:34
Rinchenhehe23:36
Rinchenindeed23:36
RinchenThe hiking was good while it lasted. 23:36
RinchenIt was a good 20 degrees cooler though23:37
Rinchenand below freezing at night23:37
RinchenI spent the rest of the week doing home projects23:37
Rinchenfixing, installing, updating, digitizing, etc23:37
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