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jj_P289 | hi im not sure where to handle pushing this request so im asking here! | 03:20 |
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jj_P289 | im having trouble with the website forums area it lets me login but then when i go to post a thread it throws me out and asks to relogin? | 03:21 |
bimberi | jj_P289: is that at ubuntuforums.org? if so, try #ubuntuforums | 03:28 |
jj_P289 | thanks | 03:28 |
bimberi | np | 03:28 |
pwnguin | hi -- I've got a firefox bug I can duplicate, but I can't get apport to actually report it | 07:25 |
pwnguin | s/bug/segfault/ | 07:26 |
techno_freak | pwnguin, nothing in your /var/crash/ ? | 07:27 |
pwnguin | appears empty | 07:27 |
sbeattie | pwnguin: you've got apport enabled? | 07:27 |
pwnguin | sbeattie: well, i dont recall explicitly disabling it | 07:28 |
pwnguin | its possible i might have | 07:28 |
pwnguin | it loves to pop up over failed package installs | 07:28 |
sbeattie | pwnguin: (1) what's the contents of /etc/default/apport and (2) what does gconftool -g /apps/update-notifier/show_apport_crashes report | 07:29 |
pwnguin | (2) true | 07:30 |
pwnguin | hmm | 07:30 |
pwnguin | enable=0 | 07:30 |
pwnguin | should i dpkg-reconfigure that or just edit directly? | 07:31 |
sbeattie | I, err, end up editing it directly. | 07:31 |
sbeattie | That's also the recommended course of action in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed | 07:31 |
sbeattie | once you've enabled it, do sudo /etc/init.d/apport start | 07:32 |
pwnguin | hm | 07:35 |
pwnguin | do i need to tweak ulimits or something? | 07:35 |
sbeattie | shouldn't think so. | 07:36 |
pwnguin | note to self: dont just delete the contents of apport-ignore.xml | 07:38 |
sbeattie | heh | 07:38 |
sbeattie | cat /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern should report something like |/usr/share/apport/apport %p %s %c | 07:38 |
pwnguin | this actually causes an exception in apport itself | 07:38 |
pwnguin | it drops a brick when theres no xml in that xml file | 07:39 |
pwnguin | and of course, now it works | 07:39 |
pwnguin | or? | 07:39 |
pwnguin | apparently this is a very big crash | 07:40 |
sbeattie | Yeah, firefox is, uh, weighty, and so it will probably take apport a bit to process it. | 07:42 |
pwnguin | this isnt good | 07:43 |
pwnguin | all the threads are claiming to be at a syscall | 07:43 |
pwnguin | wait and poll | 07:43 |
sbeattie | heh. Consider yourself stresstesting apport. | 07:45 |
pwnguin | not apport | 07:45 |
pwnguin | firefox | 07:45 |
pwnguin | apports currently uploading to somewhere | 07:45 |
sbeattie | Ah | 07:45 |
pwnguin | thats cute | 07:46 |
pwnguin | when reporting a bug in firefox | 07:47 |
pwnguin | it opens... | 07:47 |
pwnguin | firefox | 07:47 |
sbeattie | lol | 07:48 |
sbeattie | Hrm. | 07:48 |
pwnguin | well hell, what version of ff do i have? | 07:49 |
pwnguin | there's 15 dups of this, and one is claiming it's fixed in 3.0~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 | 07:49 |
sbeattie | what's apt-cache policy firefox say? | 07:50 |
pwnguin | 3.0+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1 | 07:50 |
sbeattie | Hrm, that's the 3.0 final release. | 07:51 |
pwnguin | it might not actually be a dupe | 07:51 |
sbeattie | Yeah, I'm not sure how smart the launchpad/apport crash dupe detector is. | 07:52 |
pwnguin | well im not the only guy to find this | 07:53 |
pwnguin | exact bug | 07:53 |
pwnguin | if i file an apport bug as a dupe, where do the coredumps go? | 07:53 |
sbeattie | Hrm, don't know. | 07:54 |
pwnguin | i think i'll file and mark as dupe myself | 07:55 |
pwnguin | just to be on the safe side | 07:55 |
mouz | Saving https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20080624 takes ages. | 07:58 |
pwnguin | the wiki's pretty slow lately | 07:59 |
mouz | yes: it is the whole wiki | 07:59 |
mouz | it does not promote using the wiki | 08:02 |
pwnguin | theres no mention of it on the ubuntu-doc mailing list =( | 08:06 |
sbeattie | if you use editmoin, you'll see there's a lot of meta info in the page. | 08:13 |
sbeattie | I suspect in every page, and that bloat quite likely slows down the save. | 08:13 |
pwnguin | alrighty. well thanks for the help sbeattie | 08:15 |
sbeattie | pwnguin: sure thing, and thanks for taking the effort to file the bug, even if it turns out to have been a dupe. | 08:15 |
pwnguin | dupe or not | 08:15 |
pwnguin | its still there | 08:15 |
pwnguin | i will destroy this bug | 08:16 |
pwnguin | (unless it turns out to be the javascript engine.) | 08:16 |
pwnguin | sbeattie: ive got a question about dups for ya. is it common practice to mark dups invalid ("thanks for playing") and not indicate the bug it's a dupe of? | 08:17 |
sbeattie | I'm not that much of an expert on how dupes are handled, but in most instances that I've seen, the bug it's a dupe of is referred to, so that people know where to comment appropriately. | 08:20 |
pwnguin | because thats happened to me at least twice | 08:20 |
sbeattie | I hope it's not a common practice, because it seems rather unhelpful. | 08:20 |
pwnguin | indeed. | 08:21 |
techno_freak | pwnguin, on the dupe bug, we mark it as dupe of.. so the parent bug will be referred for all improvements in future | 08:21 |
snadge | didnt you know? the easiest way to get rid of bugs is to mark them as duplicates then not reference the duplicate ;) | 08:21 |
pwnguin | hahah | 08:21 |
techno_freak | heh | 08:21 |
pwnguin | thats funny | 08:21 |
pwnguin | because when i complained, seb said there were so many bugs, and they were so busy | 08:21 |
pwnguin | but i can mark it myself | 08:22 |
pwnguin | fun fact: there was no duplicate | 08:22 |
snadge | yeah the other one is.. people have to care, the amount of times i've hit a bug.. found a report, and seen nothing but posts of tears and anguish.. is beyond laughable.. maybe i'm talking about ubuntu here ;) | 08:22 |
pwnguin | what would be neat is what i call the quad dup | 08:24 |
pwnguin | quad dup murge | 08:24 |
pwnguin | two bugs in LP with independent bugs upstream. upstream marks one a dup of the other, LP could infer that it's two bugs are also dups | 08:25 |
pwnguin | but i think bugs with upstream report links are still a vast minorty | 08:26 |
steve555 | Hi everybody. | 08:29 |
steve555 | What's happening on this channel? | 08:33 |
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joumetal | Is bug 206607 fix released? | 13:36 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 206607 in xulrunner-1.9 "firefox resets about:config browser.shell.checkDefaultBrowser" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206607 | 13:36 |
gnomefreak | joumetal: not yet as i recall | 13:56 |
dholbach | pedro_: if you have the time, could you check out http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RunningBugJam and see if it makes more sense now? (workflow, presentation, etc? | 14:30 |
dholbach | it's still pretty brief, but I hope clearer | 14:30 |
pedro_ | dholbach: ii'm on a conf call now, i'll check it in a bit ;-) | 14:30 |
dholbach | pedro_: thanks a lot | 14:31 |
pedro_ | dholbach: looks pretty good! | 14:56 |
pedro_ | dholbach: do you think it's good to talk a bit (during the presentation) about bug importances? | 14:56 |
pedro_ | difference between low and wishlist for example | 14:56 |
pedro_ | just a quickie | 14:56 |
dholbach | pedro_: sure - most people won't be allowed to set it, but it doesn't hurt explaining it | 14:57 |
pedro_ | dholbach: well it's the same with some of the importances, like the wontfix one | 14:57 |
dholbach | also that it's more of a tool to do prioritisation | 14:57 |
dholbach | *nod* | 14:57 |
dholbach | or 'triaged' | 14:57 |
pedro_ | right | 14:57 |
thekorn | dholbach, what about adding http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpnAyzYXvwU to the 'material' section | 15:03 |
dholbach | thekorn: nice idea! | 15:04 |
sbarjola | hi | 15:24 |
tundra_nu2 | .... | 15:57 |
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joumetal | I'll be happy if bug 230308 gets triaged. | 16:34 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 230308 in language-pack-gnome-fi "[Hardy] Installing Finnish language add-on to Firefox 3 breaks address bar's "feeling lucky" functionality" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/230308 | 16:34 |
joumetal | asac ping | 16:47 |
asac | joumetal: ? | 16:48 |
joumetal | asac bug 230308 | 16:48 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 230308 in language-pack-gnome-fi "[Hardy] Installing Finnish language add-on to Firefox 3 breaks address bar's "feeling lucky" functionality" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/230308 | 16:48 |
asac | joumetal: i have no clue and havent had time to look into it | 16:50 |
joumetal | asac I hope my last comment is useful. However editing the .jar file produces errors. then firefox doesn't start at all. | 16:54 |
asac | joumetal: whats the finishe keyword.URL setting? | 16:56 |
asac | e.g. the broken one? | 16:56 |
asac | could you please add that info too? | 16:57 |
joumetal | wrong keyword url is just keyword.URL=http: | 17:00 |
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bdmurray | sbeattie: so bug 221673 requires alsa-lib and alsa-plugins is that right? | 18:37 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 221673 in alsa-plugins "ALSA failing with PulseAudio in Hardy" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/221673 | 18:37 |
sbeattie | bdmurray: yes | 18:38 |
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bdmurray | zul: Can you elaborate on step 3 of the test case for bug 227410? | 19:09 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 227410 in bacula "[SRU] catalog Backup fails because .my.cnf is not read" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/227410 | 19:09 |
bdmurray | sbeattie: do you have any idea of a test case for bug 152978? | 19:22 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 152978 in tomboy ""fuse: mountpoint is not empty" syncing over ssh" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/152978 | 19:23 |
sbeattie | Not really, other than trying to figure out how to get tomboy to sync over sshfs. | 19:26 |
ogra | just ask popey to test it since he seems to be affected ? | 19:32 |
popey | hello | 19:33 |
* popey re-reads it | 19:33 | |
popey | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tomboy/+bug/152978/comments/26 | 19:36 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 152978 in tomboy ""fuse: mountpoint is not empty" syncing over ssh" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 19:36 |
popey | I am not the only one getting his | 19:36 |
popey | *this | 19:36 |
bdmurray | Okay, we are trying to verify that it is fixed but I've no idea how to recreate the bug. So if you could help either verify the fix in the -proposed package or provide a test case that would help us out a lot. | 19:37 |
ogra | well, that comment seems to say its not fixed | 19:38 |
bdmurray | ogra: which comment? | 19:43 |
sbeattie | ogra: that may be, but developing a test case for those of us who usually avoid tomboy like the plague would be a great help if and when it does actually get fixed. | 19:43 |
ogra | bdmurray, #26 | 19:44 |
ogra | bdmurray, the one popey posted above | 19:44 |
popey | you want a "from cold" how to reproduce this? | 19:45 |
bdmurray | popey: that'd be great as I've never used tomboy with fuse | 19:45 |
bdmurray | sbeattie: there is a 8.04.1 desktop iso now? | 19:53 |
yuriy | bdmurray: is there any tag currently in use for bugs without a patch but that needs to be fixed in stable release? | 19:58 |
bdmurray | yuriy: those should be nominated for the release they need fixing in | 19:58 |
bdmurray | rather than tagged | 19:59 |
yuriy | bdmurray: OK, I wasn't sure if nominations were appropriate for bugs without a known fix | 19:59 |
bdmurray | yuriy: I'm under the impression hardy-proposed is frozen now though for a bit at least. What bug is this? | 20:00 |
yuriy | bdmurray: nothing specific, trying to come up with a policy for triaging KDE3 bugs since intrepid is going to be a major change | 20:01 |
yuriy | bdmurray: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2008-June/002334.html | 20:01 |
yuriy | (any other comments on that welcome) | 20:10 |
sbeattie | bdmurray: the last desktop 8.04.1 daily iso is 20080620 | 20:12 |
sbeattie | well, 8.04.1 is frozen, it's possible for slangasek to accept exceptions to the freeze, and I believe nominations can in turn be targeted for 8.04.2. | 20:14 |
bdmurray | yuriy: that looks good to me | 20:27 |
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yuriy | bdmurray: ok, thanks. i'll change the tag to nominate for release and wikify it and start doing hug days | 20:45 |
yuriy | bdmurray: although.. I don't see any way to search for bugs that have been nominated for release | 20:49 |
bdmurray | yuriy: it's not a search but a different url - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+nominations | 20:50 |
bdmurray | notice the hardy bit in the url | 20:51 |
yuriy | bdmurray: ah, ok. that'll do | 20:52 |
yuriy | I've seen that before, yet the obvious place to look was advanced search | 20:52 |
yuriy | launchpad's wiring still needs some tweaking | 20:52 |
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bdmurray | sbeattie: are you doing any Installer verification at the moment? | 21:36 |
sbeattie | yes | 21:37 |
bdmurray | which one I was just going to start one | 21:37 |
bdmurray | I'm going to start an OEM one and choose the UK to get two bugs! | 21:39 |
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sbeattie | bdmurray: you're welcome to do both oem ones | 22:16 |
bdmurray | sbeattie: great, I'm on it! | 22:16 |
sbeattie | bdmurray: note that the wrong ownership bug requires the live-cd image; it was fixed on the alternative image before the 8.04 release | 22:17 |
bdmurray | cool, I downloaded the i386 from the 20th | 22:17 |
sbeattie | oh good, my download is still finishing. | 22:17 |
sbeattie | I've got umpteen daily alternative snapshots, but somehow managed to miss downloading a daily live build | 22:18 |
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sbeattie | bdmurray: have you looked at the samba fix yet? | 23:47 |
bdmurray | sbeattie: nope | 23:47 |
bdmurray | sbeattie: looking at it again I think I have a system I can test on | 23:51 |
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