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jj_P289hi im not sure where to handle pushing this request so im asking here!03:20
jj_P289im having trouble with the website forums area it lets me login but then when i go to post a thread it throws me out and asks to relogin?03:21
bimberijj_P289: is that at ubuntuforums.org?  if so, try #ubuntuforums03:28
jj_P289thanks03:28
bimberinp03:28
pwnguinhi -- I've got a firefox bug I can duplicate, but I can't get apport to actually report it07:25
pwnguins/bug/segfault/07:26
techno_freakpwnguin, nothing in your /var/crash/ ?07:27
pwnguinappears empty07:27
sbeattiepwnguin: you've got apport enabled?07:27
pwnguinsbeattie: well, i dont recall explicitly disabling it07:28
pwnguinits possible i might have07:28
pwnguinit loves to pop up over failed package installs07:28
sbeattiepwnguin: (1) what's the contents of /etc/default/apport and (2) what does gconftool -g /apps/update-notifier/show_apport_crashes report07:29
pwnguin(2) true07:30
pwnguinhmm07:30
pwnguinenable=007:30
pwnguinshould i dpkg-reconfigure that or just edit directly?07:31
sbeattieI, err, end up editing it directly.07:31
sbeattieThat's also the recommended course of action in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed07:31
sbeattieonce you've enabled it, do sudo /etc/init.d/apport start07:32
pwnguinhm07:35
pwnguindo i need to tweak ulimits or something?07:35
sbeattieshouldn't think so.07:36
pwnguinnote to self: dont just delete the contents of apport-ignore.xml07:38
sbeattieheh07:38
sbeattiecat /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern should report something like |/usr/share/apport/apport %p %s %c07:38
pwnguinthis actually causes an exception in apport itself07:38
pwnguinit drops a brick when theres no xml in that xml file07:39
pwnguinand of course, now it works07:39
pwnguinor?07:39
pwnguinapparently this is a very big crash07:40
sbeattieYeah, firefox is, uh, weighty, and so it will probably take apport a bit to process it.07:42
pwnguinthis isnt good07:43
pwnguinall the threads are claiming to be at a syscall07:43
pwnguinwait and poll07:43
sbeattieheh. Consider yourself stresstesting apport.07:45
pwnguinnot apport07:45
pwnguinfirefox07:45
pwnguinapports currently uploading to somewhere07:45
sbeattieAh07:45
pwnguinthats cute07:46
pwnguinwhen reporting a bug in firefox07:47
pwnguinit opens...07:47
pwnguinfirefox07:47
sbeattielol07:48
sbeattieHrm.07:48
pwnguinwell hell, what version of ff do i have?07:49
pwnguinthere's 15 dups of this, and one is claiming it's fixed in 3.0~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu107:49
sbeattiewhat's apt-cache policy firefox say?07:50
pwnguin3.0+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.107:50
sbeattieHrm, that's the 3.0 final release.07:51
pwnguinit might not actually be a dupe07:51
sbeattieYeah, I'm not sure how smart the launchpad/apport crash dupe detector is.07:52
pwnguinwell im not the only guy to find this07:53
pwnguinexact bug07:53
pwnguinif i file an apport bug as a dupe, where do the coredumps go?07:53
sbeattieHrm, don't know.07:54
pwnguini think i'll file and mark as dupe myself07:55
pwnguinjust to be on the safe side07:55
mouzSaving https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20080624 takes ages.07:58
pwnguinthe wiki's pretty slow lately07:59
mouzyes: it is the whole wiki07:59
mouzit does not promote using the wiki08:02
pwnguintheres no mention of it on the ubuntu-doc mailing list =(08:06
sbeattieif you use editmoin, you'll see there's a lot of meta info in the page.08:13
sbeattieI suspect in every page, and that bloat quite likely slows down the save.08:13
pwnguinalrighty. well thanks for the help sbeattie08:15
sbeattiepwnguin: sure thing, and thanks for taking the effort to file the bug, even if it turns out to have been a dupe.08:15
pwnguindupe or not08:15
pwnguinits still there08:15
pwnguini will destroy this bug08:16
pwnguin(unless it turns out to be the javascript engine.)08:16
pwnguinsbeattie: ive got a question about dups for ya. is it common practice to mark dups invalid ("thanks for playing") and not indicate the bug it's a dupe of?08:17
sbeattieI'm not that much of an expert on how dupes are handled, but in most instances that I've seen, the bug it's a dupe of is referred to, so that people know where to comment appropriately.08:20
pwnguinbecause thats happened to me at least twice08:20
sbeattieI hope it's not a common practice, because it seems rather unhelpful.08:20
pwnguinindeed.08:21
techno_freakpwnguin, on the dupe bug, we mark it as dupe of.. so the parent bug will be referred for all improvements in future08:21
snadgedidnt you know? the easiest way to get rid of bugs is to mark them as duplicates then not reference the duplicate ;)08:21
pwnguinhahah08:21
techno_freakheh08:21
pwnguinthats funny08:21
pwnguinbecause when i complained, seb said there were so many bugs, and they were so busy08:21
pwnguinbut i can mark it myself08:22
pwnguinfun fact: there was no duplicate08:22
snadgeyeah the other one is.. people have to care, the amount of times i've hit a bug.. found a report, and seen nothing but posts of tears and anguish.. is beyond laughable.. maybe i'm talking about ubuntu here ;)08:22
pwnguinwhat would be neat is what i call the quad dup08:24
pwnguinquad dup murge08:24
pwnguintwo bugs in LP with independent bugs upstream. upstream marks one a dup of the other, LP could infer that it's two bugs are also dups08:25
pwnguinbut i think bugs with upstream report links are still a vast minorty08:26
steve555Hi everybody.08:29
steve555What's happening on this channel?08:33
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joumetalIs bug 206607 fix released?13:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 206607 in xulrunner-1.9 "firefox resets about:config browser.shell.checkDefaultBrowser" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20660713:36
gnomefreakjoumetal: not yet as i recall13:56
dholbachpedro_: if you have the time, could you check out http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RunningBugJam and see if it makes more sense now? (workflow, presentation, etc?14:30
dholbachit's still pretty brief, but I hope clearer14:30
pedro_dholbach: ii'm on a conf call now, i'll check it in a bit ;-)14:30
dholbachpedro_: thanks a lot14:31
pedro_dholbach: looks pretty good!14:56
pedro_dholbach: do you think it's good to talk a bit (during the presentation) about bug importances?14:56
pedro_difference between low and wishlist for example14:56
pedro_just a quickie14:56
dholbachpedro_: sure - most people won't be allowed to set it, but it doesn't hurt explaining it14:57
pedro_dholbach: well it's the same with some of the importances, like the wontfix one14:57
dholbachalso that it's more of a tool to do prioritisation14:57
dholbach*nod*14:57
dholbachor 'triaged'14:57
pedro_right14:57
thekorndholbach, what about adding http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpnAyzYXvwU  to the 'material' section15:03
dholbachthekorn: nice idea!15:04
sbarjolahi15:24
tundra_nu2....15:57
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joumetalI'll be happy if bug 230308 gets triaged.16:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 230308 in language-pack-gnome-fi "[Hardy] Installing Finnish language add-on to Firefox 3 breaks address bar's "feeling lucky" functionality" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23030816:34
joumetalasac ping16:47
asacjoumetal: ?16:48
joumetalasac bug 23030816:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 230308 in language-pack-gnome-fi "[Hardy] Installing Finnish language add-on to Firefox 3 breaks address bar's "feeling lucky" functionality" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23030816:48
asacjoumetal: i have no clue and havent had time to look into it16:50
joumetalasac I hope my last comment is useful. However editing the .jar file produces errors. then firefox doesn't start at all.16:54
asacjoumetal: whats the finishe keyword.URL setting?16:56
asace.g. the broken one?16:56
asaccould you please add that info too?16:57
joumetalwrong keyword url is just keyword.URL=http:17:00
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bdmurraysbeattie: so bug 221673 requires alsa-lib and alsa-plugins is that right?18:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 221673 in alsa-plugins "ALSA failing with PulseAudio in Hardy" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22167318:37
sbeattiebdmurray: yes18:38
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bdmurrayzul: Can you elaborate on step 3 of the test case for bug 227410?19:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 227410 in bacula "[SRU] catalog Backup fails because .my.cnf is not read" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22741019:09
bdmurraysbeattie: do you have any idea of a test case for bug 152978?19:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 152978 in tomboy ""fuse: mountpoint is not empty" syncing over ssh" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15297819:23
sbeattieNot really, other than trying to figure out how to get tomboy to sync over sshfs.19:26
ograjust ask popey to test it since he seems to be affected ?19:32
popeyhello19:33
* popey re-reads it19:33
popeyhttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tomboy/+bug/152978/comments/2619:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 152978 in tomboy ""fuse: mountpoint is not empty" syncing over ssh" [Undecided,Confirmed]19:36
popeyI am not the only one getting his19:36
popey*this19:36
bdmurrayOkay, we are trying to verify that it is fixed but I've no idea how to recreate the bug.  So if you could help either verify the fix in the -proposed package or provide a test case that would help us out a lot.19:37
ograwell, that comment seems to say its not fixed19:38
bdmurrayogra: which comment?19:43
sbeattieogra: that may be, but developing a test case for those of us who usually avoid tomboy like the plague would be a great help if and when it does actually get fixed.19:43
ograbdmurray, #2619:44
ograbdmurray, the one popey posted above19:44
popeyyou want a "from cold" how to reproduce this?19:45
bdmurraypopey: that'd be great as I've never used tomboy with fuse19:45
bdmurraysbeattie: there is a 8.04.1 desktop iso now?19:53
yuriybdmurray: is there any tag currently in use for bugs without a patch but that needs to be fixed in stable release?19:58
bdmurrayyuriy: those should be nominated for the release they need fixing in19:58
bdmurrayrather than tagged19:59
yuriybdmurray: OK, I wasn't sure if nominations were appropriate for bugs without a known fix19:59
bdmurrayyuriy: I'm under the impression hardy-proposed is frozen now though for a bit at least.  What bug is this?20:00
yuriybdmurray: nothing specific, trying to come up with a policy for triaging KDE3 bugs since intrepid is going to be a major change20:01
yuriybdmurray: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2008-June/002334.html20:01
yuriy(any other comments on that welcome)20:10
sbeattiebdmurray: the last desktop 8.04.1 daily iso is 2008062020:12
sbeattiewell, 8.04.1 is frozen, it's possible for slangasek to accept exceptions to the freeze, and I believe nominations can in turn be targeted for 8.04.2.20:14
bdmurrayyuriy: that looks good to me20:27
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yuriybdmurray: ok, thanks. i'll change the tag to nominate for release and wikify it and start doing hug days20:45
yuriybdmurray: although.. I don't see any way to search for bugs that have been nominated for release20:49
bdmurrayyuriy: it's not a search but a different url - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+nominations20:50
bdmurraynotice the hardy bit in the url20:51
yuriybdmurray: ah, ok. that'll do20:52
yuriyI've seen that before, yet the obvious place to look was advanced search20:52
yuriylaunchpad's wiring still needs some tweaking20:52
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bdmurraysbeattie: are you doing any Installer verification at the moment?21:36
sbeattieyes21:37
bdmurraywhich one I was just going to start one21:37
bdmurrayI'm going to start an OEM one and choose the UK to get two bugs!21:39
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sbeattiebdmurray: you're welcome to do both oem ones22:16
bdmurraysbeattie: great, I'm on it!22:16
sbeattiebdmurray: note that the wrong ownership bug requires the live-cd image; it was fixed on the alternative image before the 8.04 release22:17
bdmurraycool, I downloaded the i386 from the 20th22:17
sbeattieoh good, my download is still finishing.22:17
sbeattieI've got umpteen daily alternative snapshots, but somehow managed to miss downloading a daily live build22:18
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sbeattiebdmurray: have you looked at the samba fix yet?23:47
bdmurraysbeattie: nope23:47
bdmurraysbeattie: looking at it again I think I have a system I can test on23:51

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