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naynayOkay, It wasn't overclocking the CPU, i had stepped up the PCI/AGP bus speeds, but now its working again00:08
Cygnu1How do I save changes to a file that I've edited in terminal?00:10
TheSheepCygnu1: what did you use to edit it?00:14
Cygnu1Just the terminal.  I did some digging and found a way to save, but for some reason, what I was trying to accomplish (making the System Beep shut the hell up) didn't work.00:15
Cygnu1I could check my BIOS, see if it has a mute.00:16
Cygnu1http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2007/09/17/blacklist-your-pc-speaker/00:16
Cygnu1That's what I followed.00:16
TheSheepthe program you used is called 'nano'00:16
TheSheepthat's the text editor00:16
TheSheepyou exit and save with ctrl+x in it00:17
TheSheepbut blacklisting pcspeaker is an ugly solution00:18
Cygnu1And one that doesn't work.00:18
TheSheepyou can change the sound pitch, length and volume instead00:19
TheSheepto make it less annoying00:19
TheSheepfor example, try this command in the terminal: xset b 80 1200 500:19
Cygnu1... This sounds like I could turn my System Beep into a musical instrument.  Please elaborate00:19
TheSheepsee the second paragraph from bottom at http://www.linux.org/lessons/beginner/l19/lesson19k.html00:20
Cygnu1Or... Xset -b00:21
Cygnu1that just turns it off entirely00:21
Cygnu1Thanks.00:21
TheSheepCygnu1: you will have to add it to your autostarted applications00:21
TheSheepCygnu1: it resets on reboot00:21
Cygnu1Right00:21
Cygnu1Sheep: Just into Autostarted, and put it into the "Command" field?00:22
TheSheepyes00:22
Cygnu1Thanks, I'm new to *nix.00:23
TheSheepyou learn fast00:23
Cygnu1Oh, I'm not a technotard, I get along fine with Windows-based machines and hardware...  I'm just a little lost right now.00:23
TheSheepthat's understandable00:24
Cygnu1So, who wants to start a System Beep orchestra00:31
steven_sys beep orchestra?00:36
steven_i like the idea00:40
* TheSheep imagines the turkish march played on 16 laptops00:41
steven_wow that's quite impressve00:44
steven_what's the diff between clean and autoremove?00:45
TheSheepclean deletes the package files it downloaded00:46
TheSheepbut doesn't uninstall anything00:46
TheSheepit just deletes the archives00:46
TheSheepautoremove uninstalls all packages that were installed as a dependency, but are not needed anymore by any package you installed00:47
steven_clean vs. autocelan?00:48
steven_*autoclean00:48
TheSheepI think autoclean doesn't remove the archives that haven't been installed yet00:49
TheSheepbut not sure00:49
steven_ahh00:53
steven_so i cold run00:53
steven_apt-get autoremove00:53
steven_apt-get autoclean00:53
steven_and it would help either way00:53
TheSheephelp in what?00:54
LetsGo67How can I read a DVD?01:43
pingutempVLC?01:49
Odd-rationale!dvd | LetsGo6701:51
ubottuLetsGo67: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs01:51
LetsGo67Doesn,t work odd-rationale.01:56
Odd-rationaleLetsGo67: you added the medibuntu repo and installed libdvdcss2 ? and replaced totem-gstreamer with totem-xine ?02:01
LetsGo67Lessee...02:01
steven_how can i rip dvds to my computer?02:01
steven_like put them in avi format02:02
steven_so i can keep on external and watch in vlc later02:02
steven_i need an easy way to do it too02:02
steven_like put it in the drive and press RIP02:02
Odd-rationalesteven_: try thoggen (ogg) there is another program too but i forgot what it is called...02:02
steven_thoggen?02:02
steven_dl'ing02:03
steven_got it02:03
steven_now to try02:03
steven_hmm02:04
steven_it seems to work02:04
steven_we will see02:04
steven_like it will rip menus and subtitles?02:04
steven_does thoggen rip to avi format?02:05
Odd-rationalesteven_: if you want all that, i would suggets to just make an iso of the dvd.02:05
steven_i don't know much about the media formats02:06
steven_how do i make iso?02:06
Odd-rationalesteven_: avi. not yet.02:06
steven_i want to save to external drive02:06
steven_to play latert02:06
Odd-rationalesteven_: let me try to rememger the name of that program...02:06
steven_thoggen allows this?02:06
steven_thx odd-rationale02:06
Odd-rationalesteven_: yes. thoggen will rip to ogg. i , however prefer to make iso of the dvd. that way i can burn an exact replica of the dvd. there is a program that will shrink the dvd to a 4 gb size that you can store. but i can't remember right now...02:07
steven_thoggen seems like it will work02:08
steven_hmm02:10
steven_k9copy is what i was told in the ubuntu room02:10
steven_any knowledge?02:10
steven_is ogg better than avi?02:10
Odd-rationalesteven_: yes, i know. but that is the kde version. there is a gtk version...02:10
steven_oh f* that02:10
Odd-rationalesteven_: ogg is an open format...02:10
steven_i hate kde02:10
steven_ogg quality is good?02:10
steven_can be watched on a windows comp?02:11
steven_LOL i didn't say that !02:11
Odd-rationalesteven_: yes. with vlc02:11
LetsGo67libdvdcss2 doesn't work.02:11
steven_vlc02:11
Odd-rationaleLetsGo67: did you change totem-gstreamer to totem-xine?02:11
steven_so if i rip an iso of a dvd02:11
steven_i can basically click the iso02:11
steven_and watch using vlc later?02:12
LetsGo67Odd-rationale: using vlc.02:12
litlebuda hi all how do I install fluxbox from a comand line install on a pc whitout network interfaces ?02:12
steven_i save the iso image to my external02:12
LetsGo67odd-rationale: how do I play it in totem anyways?02:13
Odd-rationalelitlebuda: you can download the need .deb from packages.ubuntu.com02:13
Odd-rationaleLetsGo67: vlc should work... i don't know why it wont' work...02:13
LetsGo67me neither02:14
litlebudaOdd-rationale, the alternate cd does not have it ?02:14
Odd-rationalelitlebuda: no02:16
steven_littlebuda it does not02:16
Odd-rationalesteven_: i found it. it is dvd9502:16
Odd-rationalehttp://dvd95.sourceforge.net/02:16
steven_dvd95?02:16
litlebudaok thanks Odd-rationale and steven_02:17
steven_quick ?02:18
steven_anyone use btnx?02:18
Odd-rationalegtg02:18
steven_oh ps is there a way to IRC chat from command line such as not running X?02:18
steven_thx odd02:18
litlebudasteven_, bitch or irssi i think02:20
Odd-rationalesteven_: yes. irssi or weechat <-- my favorite02:21
steven_weechat?02:22
steven_how do i go about using it?02:22
Odd-rationaleread the manual!02:22
steven_what's the gui like?02:22
steven_RTFM right?02:22
steven_LOL02:22
LetsGo67steven_ why dvd95?02:22
steven_god my bad02:22
Odd-rationalei run weechat in screen in tilda02:22
steven_what's tilda?02:23
Odd-rationalea quake-like terminal02:23
steven_ahh02:23
Odd-rationaleit drops down from the top with a hotkey.02:23
steven_cool!02:23
Odd-rationalei'll post a screenshot02:23
steven_i would like to run IRC in say Ctrl-Alt-F202:23
steven_possible?02:24
billeniumWhat is the equal text editor for xubuntu? sudo gedit /file.txt = ?02:24
Odd-rationalebillenium: mousepad02:24
steven_mouspad02:24
billeniumThanks :)02:24
Odd-rationalebillenium: gksudo mousepad02:24
Odd-rationalesteven_: yes. possible.02:25
LetsGo67dvd02:25
Odd-rationalesteven_: http://imagebin.ca/view/AeMdwagU.html02:25
steven_that's badass!02:25
steven_i'm a bit of a n00b02:26
steven_too big for my britches with the *buntu02:26
steven_i get lost02:26
steven_but am too stubborn to admit i have no clue02:26
Odd-rationalesteven_: well, it doesn't require X. you can run it screen. detach a screen session. ssh into remotely. and start it up again!02:27
steven_umm okay02:27
steven_kinda lost lol02:27
Odd-rationaleLetsGo67: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs02:27
steven_your vlc doesn't work?02:28
steven_it works for almost every media type ive given it02:28
steven_LetsGo67: have you looked at psychocats?02:29
steven_.net02:29
steven_it's a good resource02:29
LetsGo67!psychocats02:29
ubottuFactoid psychocats not found02:29
steven_?02:30
LetsGo67sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh doesn,t work02:31
LetsGo67amd64 instructions, oops.02:32
LetsGo67libdvdnav: Suspected RCE Region Protection!!!02:33
LetsGo67[00000283] main playlist: nothing to play02:33
LetsGo67Eowsn't work!02:34
steven_eowsn't?02:34
LetsGo67No!02:35
LetsGo67lol02:36
steven_hmm02:36
steven_so what else have u tried?02:36
LetsGo67vlc, medibuntu...02:41
LetsGo67*sighs802:43
LetsGo67ksdjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjfy ttjyKUIHJ.Énm ,ghl;jtygukjhk02:44
steven_vlc no work?02:44
LetsGo67fed up02:44
steven_that's odd02:44
LetsGo67yes.02:44
steven_hmm02:44
steven_what file you trying?02:44
LetsGo67sorry steven_ been here for nearly two hours.02:44
LetsGo67dvd protected.02:44
steven_yeah i feel yo02:44
steven_*you02:45
LetsGo67thanks man02:45
steven_what kind of file you got?02:45
steven_just a regular dvd?02:45
steven_you bought it?02:45
steven_or is is iso file02:45
LetsGo67when I run vlc in terminal, I see stuff from libdvdread and libdvdnav but not libdvdcss.  Garfield: pacha royal02:45
LetsGo67Typical protected dvd02:46
steven_you're running vlc in terminal?02:46
steven_not x?02:46
steven_hmmm02:48
LetsGo67Both.02:48
steven_okay02:48
steven_you have internal or external drive?02:48
LetsGo67internal laptop drive02:49
LetsGo67used to play dvds all the time02:49
steven_in buntu?02:49
steven_or another OS?02:50
LetsGo67Xubuntu02:50
LetsGo67used to work smoothy all the time02:50
LetsGo67Vista for my sis too02:50
steven_hmm02:50
steven_you live in US>?02:50
steven_is it a region1 coded dvd?02:50
steven_canada02:51
steven_hmm02:51
steven_ottowa?02:51
steven_ottawa i mean02:51
LetsGo67usa dvd played in canada02:51
LetsGo67Are you a spy?02:51
LetsGo67Floridian?02:52
steven_yes florida02:52
steven_not a spy lol02:52
LetsGo67:)02:52
steven_big fan of canada in general02:53
LetsGo67Some people suggest I reboot, then try agin.02:53
steven_we are polar opposites!02:53
steven_tried?02:53
LetsGo67Polar opposites?  Oh yeah, you don't get any snow!  :)02:53
steven_sunshine only02:53
steven_you have all plugins for vlc?02:54
steven_pulseaudio and all that jazz?02:54
LetsGo67that good or bad?  I installed new kernel, could that be it?  I believe so, using 8.04lts02:54
steven_new kernel as of today right02:54
steven_as am i02:54
steven_i have watched 2 dvds since i upgraded kernel and rebooted02:55
steven_sooo02:55
steven_have you tryied another dvd?02:55
steven_to see if it is vlc?02:55
LetsGo67lesee...02:55
steven_dumb question02:55
steven_do you get Suspected RCE Region Protection notice?02:55
steven_have you tried sudo regionset?02:56
steven_if that's the problem02:56
steven_what region dvd is it?02:56
steven_lol i am flooding02:56
LetsGo67Yes I get that notice, steven_02:57
steven_okay02:57
steven_http://ge.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?s=7e2c1709c992aa572197eae121297c9f&t=81058902:57
steven_check that out02:57
steven_that's for audio02:58
steven_nvm02:58
steven_wrong thread02:58
LetsGo67steven_ I am scared to use regionset02:58
steven_try sudo apt-get remove icedtea-gcjwebplugin openjdk-6-jre openjdk-6-jre-headless openjdk-6-jre-lib && sudo apt-get install alsa-oss faac faad flashplugin-nonfree liblame0 libxine1-ffmpeg non-free-codecs sun-java6-fonts sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin unrar02:58
steven_regionset can only be done i think 4 times02:59
steven_then it is locked02:59
LetsGo67why!?02:59
chris13I'm new to Linux and I have a pretty simple question02:59
steven_http://ge.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?s=7e2c1709c992aa572197eae121297c9f&t=76668302:59
steven_that came from that thread02:59
steven_okay chris13: go02:59
LetsGo67type: NONE?  What doesn that mean?  4 vendor resets?  5 user controlled changes resets?02:59
chris13I have a data partition that is FAT32 that I'm supposed to be able to see with both windows and Xubuntu02:59
steven_chris13: okay...03:00
chris13So from Xubuntu how do I get to it?03:00
steven_LetsGo67: hmmm03:00
LetsGo67chris13:03:00
chris13I just don't know where it would be03:00
steven_chris13: it's in a shared partition?03:00
LetsGo67what does type:none mean?03:00
chris13It is just its own partition03:00
chris13do I have to mount it somehow or something?03:01
steven_umm03:01
chris13I'm not familiar with the filesystem so it might be in there somewhere I just haven't found it03:01
steven_you may have to mount the partition03:01
LetsGo67So I am region 1?03:01
chris13ok so how would I see if it is mounted and mout it if necesary?03:02
steven_yes i believe03:02
steven_go to your top panel03:02
LetsGo67DVD WORKS!  DVD WORKS!  DVD WORKS!  DVD WORKS!  DVD WORKS!  DVD WORKS!  DVD WORKS!  DVD WORKS!  DVD WORKS!  DVD WORKS!  DVD WORKS!  DVD WORKS!  DVD WORKS!  DVD WORKS!  DVD WORKS!  DVD WORKS!03:07
steven_LOL guess who's happy?03:07
LetsGo67I AM HAPPY!  ('-')D03:09
steven_hiphip hooray!03:10
__jericho__hello, how do i reset my xfce panel to its default state... someone might have messed up with it.. tried it using alt+F2 with xfce4-panel but to no avail...03:18
__jericho__im using xubuntu 6.0603:18
chris13whoever was helping me I'm back on irc now03:24
steven_hey what's up03:24
steven_did that work?03:24
chris13got my icons back03:24
steven_good03:24
steven_ctrl-alt-backspace restarts x-server03:25
crimsun_(it kills the X server, really; it's known as zap.  Your startup method may take care of restarting the X server.)03:26
steven_true03:26
steven_that's what i mean03:26
steven_i told him to do it03:26
steven_and he did before i explained03:26
steven_lol03:26
steven_it's okay03:26
__jericho__how do i reset the panel in xubuntu 6.0603:27
LetsGo67__jericho__ alt+f2 xfce4-panel ?03:28
__jericho__tried that already but it did not help03:29
__jericho__@LetsGo67 there are no menus on the panel only the browser icon03:31
crimsun_you could try erasing the appropriate file(s) in ~/.config03:33
__jericho__will try it03:34
__jericho__btw how do i bring up the terminal in alt+F2?03:36
steven_xterm03:38
steven_terminal03:38
steven_depends which you have03:38
__jericho__xterm did it thanks03:38
steven_cool glad i could help03:41
__jericho__hmm.. i copied the default menu to ~/.config but still the same03:47
__jericho__maybe i'll just try to upgrade xubuntu through the terminal.. any help on how i'd do that...03:48
steven_sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade03:49
steven_sudo apt-get dist-upgrade03:49
steven_are you using 8.04 lts?03:49
__jericho__no still 6.0603:50
steven_oh wow03:50
steven_umm03:50
steven_jericho: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading03:50
__jericho__hmm.. thanks steven_03:51
steven_no pron03:51
steven_PROB03:51
steven_update-manager -d03:51
steven_WARNING: it will take a while03:52
steven_give it an hour +03:52
steven_ok?03:54
__jericho__ok thanks03:55
steven_it will take some time03:55
__jericho__can i do it even if i don't have administrator privileges?03:55
steven_from 7.10 to 8.0403:55
steven_yeah type alt-f203:55
steven_gksudo03:55
steven_update-manager -d03:56
steven_then type in ur password03:56
__jericho__it says i can't run the program03:57
steven_hmn03:58
steven_you don;t have admin priveleges?03:58
steven_who is admin? LOL03:58
__jericho__root privileges03:58
__jericho__duh sorry03:58
steven_lol03:58
steven_you don't03:58
steven_type sudo su03:59
steven_then try03:59
__jericho__still cant04:01
steven_hmm04:01
steven_you're04:01
steven_gtg huys04:05
steven_see you all tomorrow!04:05
steven_LetsGo67: i lost our chat!04:06
steven_LetsGo67: help!04:07
LetsGo67YO STEVE!04:16
LetsGo67steven_04:16
LetsGo67Gone.04:16
LetsGo67Bye room!04:16
LetsGo67How come a DVD only works when made an ISO file, and not when inserted in DVD drive?  How come Fieldy is here?04:27
LetsGo67How come #gentoo is discriminatory?04:28
LetsGo67Garfield: pacha royal only works as an iso file, not the actual dvd.04:29
LetsGo67Fieldy?04:30
LetsGo67Good day.04:31
q_a_z_steveHey, can anyone help me set up a linux screen recorder (vnc2swf or otherwise)?05:45
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Isaac_Under Places, how do you get to My Computer?06:52
Isaac_I have an internal hard drive I just plugged in, but don't know how to access it.06:52
Narfeefile system07:15
NarfeeI guess07:15
[zEr0-x]hi everybody!09:32
glitch942003hi :)09:32
[zEr0-x]hey I have a question: how can I open (inside Xubuntu), a folder as Root ?09:33
Myrttialt-f2, type gksudo thunar09:35
Myrttior gksudo thunar /path/to/the/directory09:35
Myrttibe careful with that though09:35
Myrttivery, very, very careful09:35
[zEr0-x]why sir ?09:37
Myrttiwell you don't want to delete your whole system?09:39
[zEr0-x]no! :)09:39
Myrtti[and btw, a) irc is informal media and titles and sirs and such are very seldom needed b) if they were used, in this case the correct one would be ma'am]09:40
[zEr0-x]oh sorry, are you woman ?... I use sir because I'm not a native english speaker, and I'm learning. I know is not an excuse but I'll try 2 the next time.09:42
Myrtti:-D09:45
MyrttiI'm from Finland where titles and ma'am's and sirs and like are very seldom used in Finnish language, so seeing that is sorta funny09:46
MyrttiI don't consider myself to be old enough to be addressed ma'am :-D09:46
[zEr0-x]anyway, sorry :P xD09:49
Myrttino probs :-P09:49
layonman98hi09:53
layonman98I'm [zEr0-x] but this is my nick of Xubuntu, I'm running it in here09:54
layonman98in a VBOx09:54
Myrttithat I already guessed09:55
layonman98jajajajaja09:55
layonman98I've started the system and an strange message appeared09:55
layonman98It says that I started without administratives privilegies. Why ?09:56
Myrttihm09:56
Myrttino idea09:56
layonman98can I give u the link with the message ?09:59
Myrttisure10:00
layonman98ok, hold on a second10:01
layonman98http://pastebin.com/d4dc6699d10:03
Myrttihm10:08
layonman98what :)10:13
MyrttiI've got no idea :-D10:13
layonman98ok, but don't worry, I have more :D10:14
layonman98If I have an app running, but It seems to be blocked, how can I kill this app ?10:14
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ubuntuuuon ubuntu on screen resolution you could change resolution but how do you change resolution on xubuntu?17:15
TheSheepsettings->setting manager->display17:16
ubuntuuuya that did it thanks17:18
Woo_Will I have to uninstall the GUI if I want to remove OOrg?18:33
keramhello18:35
keramhave any of you been able to get a dual monitors + dual video card setup working?18:36
kerami have one integrated intel graphics cards and one ati pci card. and 2 almost identical monitors18:36
keramwhen i try to edit the xorg.conf file to include entries for both monitors and both screens and both video cards i get the message "ubuntu is running in low graphics mode" when it boots up, and the monitor connected to the internal card does not show anything18:38
keramhere is my xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/fdb6695e18:39
zoredachekeram: I have gotten dual video cards working when both where nvidia. I never got dual-head going with my onboard intel...18:56
keramah18:56
keramwell i have at least a small update. i have changed xorg so that the drivers used are intel and ati (rather than nvidia)18:57
kerami also edited some bios settings so that the default video card to use is the internal one. now when i boot up i still get the low graphics mode warning but the internal monitor works and the ati monitor is displaying the text "ATI MACH64 BOIS P/N 113-40102-101"18:58
keramthe ati card is very old, maybe the proper driver is not "ati" but rather something else?18:59
zoredachekeram: most of the tutorials reccomend that you start by trying to get a working config for each display seperately18:59
keramah ok i wil ltry that19:00
zoredacheso try and get the ati working all by itself, and try and get the intel working all by itself.  Once you do that, then try and combine that19:00
keramok. that makes good sense19:02
kerami will be back later if i run into more issues19:02
Woo_I started the live Xubuntu, the progress bar went back and forwards. Now it is just blinking | on a black screen. Nothing happens. What do I do?19:21
zoredachehow much memory does your computer have?19:21
Woo_1GB19:21
Woo_Well I haven't fully tried them yet19:22
Woo_I found them in an old computer at the scrap heap yesterday19:22
Woo_before that it had 256MB19:22
Woo_the same kind of RAM though19:22
zoredachetried them?  you mean the ram?  If this is new or new ram to this computer I would be tempted to run through the memory diagnostic19:23
Woo_It was starting Windows 98 on the old hard drive before I shut it off (it isn't morally right to boot someone else's data)19:23
Woo_ok so xubuntu has this ram utility?19:23
Woo_is it an option at first or?19:23
zoredacheI believe it is one of the boot options on the livecd...19:24
Woo_ok, will go check19:24
Woo_now it is running19:26
Woo_so you think it is a ram problem?19:32
zoredachefrequently a black screen for a long period of time indicates that you don't have enough memory.19:34
zoredacheI am a glass-half empty kinda guy.  I do not trust RAM until I have run memtest86 for at least one pass19:35
ampexso what makes xfce better than gnome or kde?19:35
zoredacheampex: your opinion19:35
ampexwhy do typical xubuntu users prefer it?19:35
zoredacheI prefer it because there is less stuff.  XFCE frequently takes a minimimalist approach19:36
zoredachebecause of the minimalist approach it does tend to be faster, and useable on older systems19:38
Woo_i think it'll be done in 30-40 min19:40
Woo_it says test 83% pass 23%19:52
Woo_only 23% of the ram works, or does it mean something else?19:52
wozzit means 23% of the time it passes every time20:00
MrNazWoo_ if your computer says 83% of your ram is ok and 23% is not ok then there's something wrong with your CPU: it obviously cant do basic math20:01
MrNazdo you have a pentium 3 ?20:01
Woo_well :P20:01
Woo_it's funny you should ask20:02
MrNazhaha20:02
Woo_the computer i got the ram from had a pentium 320:02
Woo_but no, it's an AMD Athlon, doesn't say anymore20:02
wozzgive us the entire line20:02
wozznot a paraphrase20:02
Woo_amd athlon 1,3ghz20:02
wozznot that20:03
wozzthe results of memtest20:03
Woo_it's not done yet20:04
wozzokay20:04
Woo_jesus is it not possible to order national geographic without any tinhorn gadgets?20:05
Woo_oh nevermind, i didn't scroll20:06
Woo_how many tests are there?20:09
wozzi always lost patience with it20:10
wozzi never got all the way through a memtest20:10
Woo_0 errors this far then on test #6, running 45 min20:11
Woo_so i can clearify the ram isn't the reason xubuntu isn't starting?20:11
temoto-mobiWhy orage is always starting full sized? Why preference window?20:12
zoredachethere are 10 tests, and then it will repeat... after about the 5 or 6th test you usually can be sure your ram is ok...  But on a new computer I usually let it run for at least 24 hours to get lots of passes20:12
zoredacheif you are up to test 6 and there are no errors displayed down in the results window then it probably isn't a bad-ram issue20:13
Woo_Ok. Why isn't Xubuntu starting?20:14
* zoredache shrugs20:14
zoredachesomething isn't happy20:14
zoredacheWoo_: what are you trying to do anyway?  Install or just try out the livecd?20:16
Woo_install, but the same problem occurs on both20:16
zoredacheif you are trying to install you might want to give the alternate cd20:16
Woo_nah that is too advanced20:17
zoredachenot really20:17
Woo_is it like the xp install in the beginning or is it a long text only install?20:17
zoredacheabout like a windows xp install yes20:17
Woo_hmm20:18
Woo_i have my doubt it will work after that again20:18
wozzseriously20:20
wozzjust get the alternate cd20:20
wozzit's no harder than the livecd20:20
Woo_no i mean after the install20:20
wozzwhat?20:20
zoredacheWoo_: it will either work or it won't.  If it doesn't you won't be any worse off then you are right now20:20
Woo_that it won't boot to the desktop20:20
wozzthat issue is completely seperate than installation20:21
Woo_not really, if it is a driver issue or something there is no point installing if it won't work afterwards20:21
Woo_since they use the same drivers20:21
zoredacheWoo_: but with the alternate CD you will be able to fix things after the fact...20:22
zoredacheif it can be fixed...20:22
Woo_i guess everything can be fixed in linux, yes20:23
Woo_but i'm not the kind of guy who can type in the terminal and do stuff like that20:23
Woo_if it doesn't work i try another distro20:23
Woo_like today ubuntu just stopped working on my laptop20:23
zoredacheWoo_: and you aren't interested in ever learning how to work at a cli?20:24
Woo_not if it can be done with a graphical interface20:25
Woo_i mean if ubuntu gave me a clear error today telling me what was wrong (in english), prompting me with yes/no or something that would be ok20:26
zoredacheWoo_: that is a nice thing to hope for, but no operating system is able to do that in all cases...20:27
Woo_well xp doesn't require me to type much20:27
Woo_sure in xp it's annoying when it doesn't give you a hint what is causing the crash20:28
Woo_vista is usually better on that though20:28
Woo_though, things sems to work better in XP than Ubuntu imo.20:29
Woo_i think the error had something to do with bread20:29
zoredacheif you are not willing to get your hands dirty a little then Linux probably isn't for you.  Doesn't matter what distro you choose...20:29
TheSheepWoo_: you have some problems with typing?20:29
Woo_no, it's more like not knowing what to type20:30
TheSheepthat's temporary :)20:30
Woo_and GUIs are more self explained20:30
Woo_zoredache, fair enough. but i don't think linux is advertised around the internet saying that.20:31
zoredacheWoo_: no, there are Linux fan boys, just like there are apple fan-boys, Windows fan-boys, and so on.20:32
Woo_like on digg they said linux had better fonts. in my experience that is right inside the OS, but a lot of web sites looks worse no matter if i install the MS fonts or the LCD thing20:32
Woo_my mate was installing kubuntu, it went all right. then when he tried to start it it just gave him a text thing20:33
Woo_it offered him to say help for commands20:33
Woo_but typing in the commands didn't help much20:33
Woo_we both agreed it wasn't very user friendly or giving a good impression if you are going from windows20:33
Woo_i do like it when it works20:34
Woo_nice functions here and there, good to do work with20:35
Woo_there was an old ubuntu installation on this PC once so i think ubuntu will work. but then i won't have any use for the 1,3gb disk. i think i'll need to remove it in favor for a 4gb one20:36
TheSheepWoo_: Vista has much better default fonts than linux20:36
TheSheepWoo_: they use a patented technology and they spent a lot of money on font designers20:36
TheSheepWoo_: so not everything you read is necessarily true20:37
TheSheepthe real power of linux is that whenever there is something you don't like, you can easily change it20:37
Woo_suppose linux was world dominating, how would games and pay software be installed?20:39
Woo_and anti virus20:39
zoredacheWoo_: perhaps something like CNR20:39
zoredacheWoo_: as for anti-virus... prevention is far better then detection20:40
Woo_i guess linux is safer from a starting point20:41
Woo_but if it had a 90% market share there's bound to be a lot of stuff that the basics can't cover20:41
Woo_what is CNR?20:42
zoredacheWoo_: click and run... it is a commercial linux site where you can buy software and games...  if you have the client installed... then you 'click and run'20:43
zoredachehttp://www.cnr.com/20:43
djouallahnetworksetting don't rember my dns setting ?21:16
TheSheepdjouallah: you use dhcp?21:18
djouallahyes21:18
Drk_GuyWoah man21:18
Drk_GuyXfce is real fast21:18
TheSheepthen the information received from the dhcp server overwrites your settings21:18
djouallahdamn, TheSheep that's unfair, the dns from dhcp is brocken,21:19
TheSheepdjouallah: I have a similar situation, I work around it21:19
TheSheepdjouallah: edit the /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf  as root21:19
djouallahTheSheep, please how ?21:19
TheSheepdjouallah: and add a line: prepend domain-name-servers your.dns.server.here;21:20
djouallahTheSheep, thxs21:20
Drk_GuyHi guys!21:29
Drk_GuyIs there an equivalent to kwin --replace in xfce?21:30
Drk_GuyI need it to disable compiz without losing my prefs21:30
Odd-rationaleDrk_Guy: xfwin4 --replace21:31
Odd-rationaleiirc21:31
Drk_Guylol21:31
Drk_GuyThanks21:31
Drk_GuyNot found21:31
Drk_Guy:(21:31
Odd-rationaleDrk_Guy: umm. xfwin ?21:32
Drk_GuyNot found21:32
Odd-rationalehold on. i will find out...21:32
Odd-rationalexfwm421:32
Drk_GuyIt ran, but compiz is there21:33
Drk_Guy:)21:33
Odd-rationaledid you --replace ?21:33
Odd-rationalexfwm4 --replace21:33
Drk_GuyYeah21:33
Odd-rationalebut compiz still running?21:34
Drk_Guyyup21:34
Odd-rationalehmm.21:35
TheSheepxfwm4 --replace21:36
TheSheepah, right21:36
Drk_GuyI'll have to relogin21:38
IanXXwhat are your reason for choosing xubuntu of the other *buntu distros ?22:03
Odd-rationaleIanXX: lightweightness. speed. xfce is cool.22:04
Odd-rationalecody-somerville is cool...22:04
Odd-rationalemany, many, more... :)22:05
IanXXcool xfce was the first desktop enviroment i use when i was using freebsd when i had my p3 system22:06
Odd-rationaleIanXX: if you came from *bsd, you might like arch linux...22:07
IanXXdoes arch linux have a good package manager like the debian based distros ?22:08
Odd-rationaleIanXX: yeah. pacman is awesome!22:08
Odd-rationaleIanXX: better than apt, imo...22:08
IanXXok cool22:09
Odd-rationaleIanXX: Anyways, i shouldn't be soliciting in a *buntu channel... :P22:09
Odd-rationaleIanXX: /join #archlinux if you want to know more...22:09
NarfeeI can't get the net to work on Arch... so I can't get any X to work...22:31
Narfeethat's why I chose xubuntu22:31
thinkmassiveis there an easy way to determine my graphics adapter type (agp, pci-x) without opening the case?22:56
thinkmassiveright now I'm using the integrated intel graphics and that's all I see with lspci22:57
zoredacheyou could try the 'aida' boot disk23:01
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thinkmassivewell it's a dell and as an upgrade when you order a system they offer ATI Radeon 2400 Pro or XT23:03
thinkmassiveI know it's gotta be low profile, and now that I look at the low profile cards I'm noticing that the only dual-port options are dvi + s-video23:03
thinkmassiveor a double width card23:03
thinkmassiveso I guess I should open the case anyway23:03
thinkmassiveit's not possible to use integrated graphics + discrete, is it?23:04
zoredachepardon?23:04
zoredacheare you asking if you can use the onboard video card and another card at the same time?  The answer is 'maybe'.  I have computers at work where you can, and I have some where youc an't23:06
zoredachecan't*23:06
thinkmassiveah ok23:06
Claw6how to tell my wifi not to connect automatic to networks ?23:12
thinkmassiveset it to manual23:12
Claw6how / where ?23:13
thinkmassivecan you see the network icon in the panel? it probably looks like some blue bars23:13
Claw6y23:13
thinkmassiveclick that, select Manual Configuration23:14
thinkmassivethen change your wifi from roaming to manual23:14
Claw6no option there23:14
thinkmassivedoes it say Roaming Mode enabled?23:15
Claw6kk i found it in app/system23:15
Claw6no23:15
Claw6not in try icon23:15
Claw6but can change it in menu off connection devices23:15
Drk_GuyI got i tguys23:17
Drk_GuyTo disable compiz, you must: kilall compiz && xfwm4 --replace23:17
Drk_Guy:)23:17
thinkmassivehow is support for Radeon HD 2400Pro in xubuntu 8.04?23:18
thinkmassiveanybody know? :-D23:18
thinkmassiveI only ever use intel integrated lately23:18
zoredachemy expereince with ATI generally has not been so good.  I have no experience with that card.23:19
thinkmassivethat's what I'm afraid of23:19
thinkmassivehow about nvidia support?23:19
Drk_GuyNvidia pwns23:20
Drk_GuyInstall, reboot and there you go23:20
Drk_Guy:)23:20
Drk_GuyATi sucks23:20
thinkmassiveso nvidia doesn't rely on proprietary drivers?23:20
Drk_GuyYeah23:20
Drk_GuyI mean, install the drivers and reboot23:21
Drk_GuySome minor Xorg.conf fixes fis most problems23:21
Drk_GuyIf you want to install nvidia drivers easily: sudo apt-get install jockey jockey-gtk23:24
thinkmassiveok cool, today is my birthday so I'm going to order a dual output video card for my workstation23:27
thinkmassivein addition to some more ram for my servers... woooo!23:27
Drk_GuyXD23:32
Drk_GuyUse xubuntu if you want ULTRA SPEDD23:32
Drk_Guy*SPEED23:32
Drk_GuyXD23:32
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