/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/06/25/#kubuntu-devel.txt

Riddellstdin: uploaded kdeplasmoids and kdebase-kde4 to kubuntu-members-kde402:13
Riddellstdin: ah, you already did kdebase-kde4, groovy02:22
jjessewhat is the current state of the kde4 ppa?03:23
jjessefor hardy?03:23
jjessehrmm still having problems with kdebase-workspace-data03:38
nixternaljjesse: you still have problems with your wifi?04:42
nixternalI got the new books tonight btw, did you get yours?04:43
yuriyRiddell: in light of recent blog arguments, perhaps it would be good to make the beta announcements more clear that these packages are for testing and such?05:05
alleemhmm ... libkipi0 conflicting with libkipi5 is not a good idea.  Uninstalls digikam, kphotoalbum that have no useable KDE4 port yet.  As kipiplugins of kde3/4 are in different dirs I don't mostly sure that there will be no problem with libkipi0 and 5 both installed07:54
Arbymorning08:07
\shmoins08:20
\shdoes anyone have problems show menu texts in qt4-designer?08:21
\shwith kde4.1beta1 or beta2?08:21
Nightrosehmmm lots of plasmoids missing after the upgrade - are they not packaged yet?08:55
\shNightrose: not build eventually08:57
\shkdepim is missing too :)08:58
Nightrosehmmm and I don't seem to have any audio backend in phonon08:58
serzholinolibkipi5 conflicts with libipi0, requiring to uninstall digikam08:58
serzholinois Is really necessary?08:59
serzholino*is it08:59
NightroseRiddell: kdeplasmoids is still missing a few plasmoids - are you aware of that? folderview, twitter and the dictionary are the ones I spotted so far09:16
stdinserzholino: ~ppa2 fixes that, should be available for i386 now09:16
stdinamd64 is still queued09:17
serzholinothanks a lot, stdin :)09:17
RiddellNightrose: folderview is in kdebase, twitter and dict didn't compile (needed headers which plasma didn't install)10:26
NightroseRiddell: strange... - i have kdebase-kde4 .83 ~ppa4 and there is no folderview in my add applets dialogue10:30
RiddellNightrose: try kdebase-plasma10:31
Nightrosek10:32
NightroseRiddell: no package kdebase-plasma10:33
Nightrosei already have kdeplasmoids installed10:33
Nightrosestdin: thanks for the phonon update - will try10:34
Riddelloh, hmm, stdin's package needs updated then10:36
fishy-0Is there a ubuntu help channel?10:39
Riddell#ubuntu10:39
fishy-0thanks!10:39
Nightrosestdin: latest packages give me a backend but still no sound :/10:44
\shRiddell: do you think this could be the default desktop launchpad client for kubuntu? http://leonov.tv/content/leonov-with-mdi-layoutbling-bling ? :)10:48
Nightroseis there any other? ;-)10:49
Nightrose\sh: packages availible yet?10:50
\shNightrose: no...development tarballs on sunday;)10:51
Riddell\sh: sure10:53
RiddellHobbsee: can you give back kdeutils?11:14
alleeHolNightrose: not sure if this is your prob: I had no sound too last night with 4.0.83 pkgs. I check as far as: phonon used new gst and no gst-plugins were installed during the upgrade to beta2 pkgs.  had no internet at that time to have not checked it that's all to fix sound12:24
NightrosealleeHol: i installed the gstreamer backend with the last updates a few hours ago but I still get no sound :/12:26
Nightrosebut at least a backend in phonon's settings12:26
alleeHolNightrose: check what gst plugins pkg are install.  gstreamer alone is helpless AFAIU12:26
NightrosealleeHol: ok will try thanks12:27
NightrosealleeHol: you might be on to something... don't seem to have any installed12:29
NightrosealleeHol: any recomendation which package i should install?12:31
alleeHolNightrose: first the good then the ugly then if you like bad I assume.12:43
* alleeHol never really worked with gst before too ;)12:43
alleeHolNightrose: I've to prepare computers for delivery in chile.  Later I may have myself time to try ...12:44
NightrosealleeHol: no problem - I will test some here - thanks for your tip12:45
HobbseeRiddell: looks already given back13:03
Hobbseeoh, it's in depwait, and i changed the script back to pitti's version13:04
Riddellhi Xand3r, did you get to look at akode?13:09
Xand3rRiddell: no sorry, i had no time, and now i have no time too, sorry, maybe tomorrow or the day after, by the way, is this package good for beginers?13:11
RiddellXand3r: no problem, I'll try and do it then, it should be done before import freeze tomorrow13:13
stdinNightrose: the phonon package is the one from intrepid13:15
Nightrosestdin: meaning? it will not work?13:15
stdinNightrose: meaning, I have no clue :)13:15
Nightrosehehe13:15
Nightrosewell I wonder why the xine backend is gone13:16
Nightroseis that intentional?13:16
stdindunno, the gstreamer backend should be installed anyway, but it's not showing up13:16
Nightrosewell it is showing in the settings now here13:17
Nightroseafter the last update13:17
stdinmine still isn't, but then I haven't been brave enough to logout/in yet13:17
Nightrosehehe13:17
Nightroseyou can do it! :P13:18
jussi01hey Nightrose13:20
Nightrosehey jussi01 :)13:20
RiddellNightrose: xine backend should be part of kdebase-runtime13:20
Riddellintrepid has it make a phonon-backend-xine package13:20
NightroseRiddell: kdebase-runtime is installed :/13:21
stdinprobably wasn't installed into the deb13:23
Nightrosehmmm13:24
stdinjust have to add usr/lib/kde4/lib/kde4/phonon_xine.so and usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/services/phononbackends/xine.desktop13:28
seeleyuriy: *sigh* i didn't even have specifically kubuntu in mind when i wrote that.  suse releases beta packages as well but of course they're infallible13:31
ScottKNo.  They've just patched out all the interesting functions.13:39
Hobbseebah13:41
Hobbseewhy do i need a whole bunch of kde stuff, just for konversation?13:41
Hobbseeoh, ther'es akregator too13:41
JucatoHobbsee: that can't be right13:42
HobbseeJucato: recommends by default?13:42
Jucatoah probably :/13:42
Nightrosewohooooo14:22
* Nightrose hugs stdin 14:22
NightroseI have sound!14:23
Nightrosethanks :)14:23
stdin:)14:23
Nightroseewwwww but now I can hear all the new sounds... :P14:24
Nightrosewonder who had the great idea to add a sound effect when opening krunner14:24
Nightrosehmm or not...14:25
stdinlet me guess, it's a "woosh!" sound?14:25
Nightrosesound everytime a window pops up14:25
Nightrosemore of a "ding"14:25
stdinRiddell: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.1beta2.php says "KDE 4.1 Beta 1 has been released and packages are available for Kubuntu 8.04, the Hardy Heron." in the first paragraph14:25
stdinshould say "Beta 2"14:26
* stdin hates uploading the kdeartwork package14:26
stdinall 42MB of it14:27
Nightrosebah this sound is so irritating..  /me turns it off14:27
Riddellstdin: fixed (pending cache)14:27
Riddellstdin: it's not as bad a language packs..14:28
stdintrue14:29
stdinbut now I have lag of 5s :p14:29
Nightrosein case someone is wondering: it was "information message" in kde system notification that made this nice beep on opening krunner14:35
JontheEchidnaYay, gstreamer phonon backend14:58
JontheEchidnaShould stop the xine-induced knotify memory leak14:58
Hobbseesigh.15:14
HobbseeThe following NEW packages will be installed:15:14
Hobbsee  akonadi-server htdig kde-icons-oxygen kdebase-runtime15:14
Hobbsee  kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 kdebase-runtime-data kdebase-runtime-data-common15:14
Hobbsee  kdelibs-bin kdelibs5 kdelibs5-data kdepimlibs-data kdepimlibs5 khelpcenter415:14
Hobbsee  libakonadiprivate0 libclucene0ldbl libgif4 libkdepim4 liblockfile115:14
Hobbsee  libphonon4 libqt4-dbus libqt4-designer libqt4-network libqt4-opengl15:14
Hobbsee  libqt4-qt3support libqt4-script libqt4-sql libqt4-sql-mysql libqt4-svg15:14
Hobbsee  libqt4-xml libqtcore4 libqtgui4 libraptor1 librasqal0 librdf0 libsoprano415:14
Hobbsee  libstreamanalyzer0 libstreams0 libstrigiqtdbusclient0 lockfile-progs phonon15:14
Hobbsee  phonon-backend-gstreamer pmount qt4-qtconfig raptor-utils redland-utils15:14
Hobbsee  soprano-daemon15:14
HobbseeThe following packages will be upgraded:15:14
Hobbsee  akregator15:14
Hobbsee1 upgraded, 46 newly installed, 0 to remove and 15 not upgraded.15:14
Hobbseerecommends, i hate you.15:14
Hobbseeoh wait, that's the new version of it.15:14
* Hobbsee removes all of kde3.15:16
Hobbseeoh, grrr.15:21
Hobbseeand this has no icon, for one thing.15:21
Hobbseeand doesn't find my feeds at all.  yet i can't go back to the old version to export them :(15:29
JucatoHobbsee: you have a backup of the xml (or is it opml?) file?15:30
HobbseeJucato: nope.15:30
HobbseeJucato: the two that i do have, it doesn't load in.15:30
* Hobbsee downgrades back to the kde3 version15:30
Jucatohow are you doing it? importing or just copying into ~/.kde4/share/apps/ ?15:31
Hobbseeboth15:31
Hobbseei'm not sure why it didn't work15:31
Jucatome too :(15:32
* Hobbsee beats this with a stick.15:34
Hobbseeapt really isn't designed for mass-downgrading, it appears.15:34
Hobbseeor at least, dpkg isn't.15:34
Hobbsee\o/ there's the old kde3 version back15:35
Jucatoand it works?15:38
Hobbseeyep15:40
Hobbseefits in better with gnome, too.  much better.15:40
Jucatolol15:40
* nixternal is using gnome right now15:43
Hobbseenixternal: another traitor.  but it's better than vista.15:44
* Jucato hides his XP...15:49
seele\sh: do you have a ppa of leonov?  i've been looking at the screenshots but i'm strill having a hard time figuring out how to do certain tasks in it.  it might be because i'm not so good with launchpad though15:50
\shseele: no..but you can bzr pull | branch it from lp:~shermann/leonov/leonov-kde-mdi-style :)15:51
\shseele: hopefully I find the time to prepare packages next week (we need still to do some python distutils magic for the source :))15:53
nixternalHobbsee: not traiting, just using gnome until I can build out KDE 4 on this work lappy15:56
Hobbseeheh15:56
nixternalI need some eye candy now because KDE 4 has spoiled me15:57
nixternaland Kubuntu + Compiz == major suckage15:57
nixternaland I am using Intel, but Ubuntu + Compiz == somewhat niceness, but not near KDE 4 goodness :)15:57
seele\sh: typo in your README?  should  # apt-get bzr bzrtools be # apt-get install bzr bzrtools?15:58
\shseele: yay...yes :)16:00
\shseele: fixed16:00
seelehrm16:02
seeleImport Error: No module named mainTabPersonalBugReports16:02
seelei'm guessing that i'm missing something, but i dont know how to fix that16:03
seelei just follow instructions16:03
\shmake16:04
Riddellnixternal: how well does kwin compositing work for you in 4.1 beta 2?16:04
seele\sh: you should add that to your instructions :)16:05
\shseele: yes :)16:05
yuriyhello from USENIX16:06
apacheloggerRiddell: bug #220664 needs sponsoring please :)16:06
Riddellyuriy: what's usenix?16:06
* \sh grabs another coffee16:07
seeleRiddell: big unix conf16:07
yuriyRiddell: http://usenix.org/about/16:07
seeleyuriy: i hope you got the student rate16:08
Riddellapachelogger: that's just for hardy?16:08
yuriyseele: probably. university's paying for it16:08
apacheloggerRiddell: intrepid, I recreated the debdiff for intrepid's needs16:09
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seele\sh: hmm.. you want bugs?  crashed on incorrect password16:10
\shseele: known :) we changed the bug handling today ;)16:11
seeleah ok, hehe16:11
\shseele: the exception handling to be more precise ;)16:12
seele\sh: so as for what you could put on your toolbar, i think fetching bugs and toggling the personal bug page panel would be useful16:13
seelei don't normally recommend putting a quit button on there though16:13
\shseele: yeah...I just need some nice icons for the actions...that's why I'm hiding those actions ;)16:14
\shfrom the toolbar ;)16:14
seeleok16:14
seelei have bugs on my launchpad page but nothing is showing up in leonov.  should i assume it's just not working yet or are they not the same thing?16:15
\shseele: if you know somebody who is good in things like designing good oxygen icons please send him/her to #leonov :)16:15
seelewhen i think of my personal bug page, i think of this page: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~celeste16:15
\shseele: you are logged in with your lp user login id? (the email address) and your password, right?16:16
seelefor fetch bugs, you could probably use one of the download icons16:16
seeleyep16:16
\shseele: start leonov.py with the "-d" switch to see what the debug output is spitting out...16:16
seeleok, mom16:16
seeleinstead of -f?16:16
\shno ... python ./leonov.py -f kde -d16:17
\shor just python ./leonov.py -d ;) kde is the default16:17
\shit also checks your $DESKTOP_SESSION ;)16:17
nixternalRiddell: have tried beta 2 yet16:18
seeleah, there we go.  i wonder if i just didn't notice the tree widget change16:18
apacheloggerRiddell: bug 241617 - should I provide a transitional package or just change the binary name?16:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 241617 in kdesdk-kde4 "duplicate file conflict betwen packages" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24161716:18
apacheloggerfor the PPA that is16:18
\shseele: yeah the "+" icon in the oxy style treewidget is not as good as in plastique16:19
seele\sh: ok, so i have my bugs.  how do i get them to show up in Basic Information?16:19
\shseele: double click on one :)16:19
seele\sh: i tried clicking, double clicking, dragging... nothing's happening16:19
\shseele: it takes some time...that's LP :(16:20
seelei have a progressbar in my statusbar that says 75%16:20
\shand html parsing16:20
Riddellapachelogger: uploaded your first one16:20
\shseele: which branch did you use?16:20
Riddellapachelogger: I don't follow what's happening on bug 24161716:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 241617 in kdesdk-kde4 "duplicate file conflict betwen packages" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24161716:20
\shlp:~shermann/leonov/leonov-kde-mdi-style ? the progressbar is not in use right now16:21
seeleoh, that's the problem.  i followed the instructions and they said only leonov16:21
\shseele: use the  lp:~shermann/leonov/leonov-kde-mdi-style branch :)16:22
seeleyep.. on it16:22
seeledo i have to link the launchpad bugs again?16:22
apacheloggerRiddell: thanks ... as for 241617: I just digged up the answer myself :)16:23
\shseele: if the link is not there anymore, yes...if it's still there, no :)16:23
apacheloggerwoah, digged is pretty wrong16:23
* apachelogger needs coffee16:23
seeleah hah.. cool16:24
\shthat sounds happy :)16:25
seele\sh: the personal tasks pane should be on the left.  youre trying to create a workflow with selecting a bug and then viewing details.  with the pane on the right it feels like you are moving backwards16:25
seelei tried dragging it to the left and pinning it, but it just went back to the right so i guess you cant do it that way16:26
\shseele: you can...16:26
seelebug 20369016:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 203690 in kdesudo-kde4 "kdesudo does not display correct comment in some cases" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20369016:27
seelei thought tonio fixed that16:27
\shseele: you need to move the mouse cursor a bit down the left window border until it opens the dock area...16:27
seele\sh: ah, i see.  it is easier to do when you are in window mode instead of tab mode16:27
seele\sh: anyway.. that position should be default imo16:28
\shseele: yeah...fixed that :)16:28
\shseele: this behaviour of the dock area is bugging me too..I can't change it it's somewhere hidden in the deep qt tree ;)16:29
\shseele: but it saves the position of the dock widget for the next time :)16:30
seele\sh: what is the difference between Personal Tasks and Tasklist of $name?16:31
\shseele: the URL to fetch ;)16:31
seeleright.. but what is the difference in content?16:31
\shseele: when you have your bugreport open, and click on "show reporters task list" and "reporter != you" it shows the contents of the bugs of the reporter16:32
seelei got a bunch of page errors so nothing populated.  but i dont have a lot of LP activity so i dont know if it broke or if it was debugging16:32
seeleooooh ok16:32
\shseele: e.g. subscribe to bug #23914016:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 239140 in soyuz "[Wishlist] Live Build Logfile View " [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23914016:33
\shseele: I reported the bug, if you "Fetch BUgs" again for your personal task list, it shows the bug under "subscribed"...when you open the bug report, and click on the "Show reporters tasks" you can examine my tasks :)16:34
seeleright16:35
seelewhat are some of the things you would need the reporter's tasks for?16:35
\shseele: curiousity , eventually to check my students bugs etc.16:36
seeleare bugs called tasks in launchpad?  or can you create tasks in addition to bugs?16:37
\shseele: all "bugreports" are named "Tasks" internally16:38
seeleok, so it's launchpad jargon16:38
seeleis this all read-only so far?  i dont see any edit functions16:38
\shseele: because you can have a report for several tasks (in upstream projects, distro tasks, and as well on packages in distros) everything is a task16:39
\shseele: right now, we didn't implement the "commit" stuff...this will be started next week :)16:39
seeleok16:39
seelesome styleguide stuff i'm noticing16:39
\shseele: that's why I'm16:39
seelelabels shoudl be right aligned, so report no. summary, and reporter shoul be flush against their text widgets16:40
\shinterested to hear your opinion to some UI stuff...being a dev and a LP user, I style the UI for "my needs" and I need people who are objective ;)16:40
seelei'll have to learn more about this other people's tasklist thing.  i think the button might not be in the right place16:40
seelereport number and report date seem like they should go together16:41
seeleand then you could put the get tasklist button near the report name so they are associated together16:41
seelei'll have to check the guidelines, but i think text that can never be edited (e.g. report no.) should be text in the pane and not in a non-editable widget16:41
seeleso report no. summary, date, and reporter would be regular text, not in text boxes.  otherwise it looks like you can edit them16:42
\shseele: can you note all that down in a bug^Wtask report on launchpad.net/leonov ? :)16:42
seeleyeah sure16:42
seeledo you want one big bug report for ui stuff or individual ones for each issue?16:43
\shseele: do as you like :)16:43
seeleone report it is! hehe16:43
\shseele: when you want, attach some mockups (hand drawings or whatever) to the report too :) the same we have to do with the gtk frontend..16:44
seeleok.  i can work on mockups later tonight.  i should be working right now, but the project i have today is terribly boring16:45
\shseele: the intention is: we want to make it right :)16:45
\shseele: and it's quite difficult to find people knowledgable in UI style and UI usability :)16:46
Riddellapachelogger: going to find time for filelight before import freeze tomorrow?16:50
apacheloggeryes16:50
apacheloggerRiddell: I tried uploading 2 weeks ago16:50
apacheloggerthe package got still rejected16:51
Riddellapachelogger: with what error?16:51
apacheloggerRejected:16:52
apacheloggerMD5 sum of uploaded file does not match existing file in archive16:52
apacheloggerFiles specified in DSC are broken or missing, skipping package unpack verification.16:52
Riddellsounds like you're building against debian's .orig and not urs16:52
apacheloggerthe version was 1.0-2build116:52
Riddellours16:52
apacheloggerhm16:52
\shok...time to leave the office and preparing for the great soccer game :)16:52
apacheloggerRiddell: debian's should be ours really16:53
Riddellapachelogger: but it isn't..16:53
\shseele: thx in advance :) cu tomorrow :)16:53
apacheloggerRiddell: would an 2ubuntu1 get through?16:54
Riddellyes16:54
Riddellif it's built against the correct .orig file16:54
apacheloggerI'll take a look at it in a minute16:55
seele\sh: np16:57
apacheloggerRiddell: actually we wouldn't want to use our .orig as it causes issues with filelight-l10n imported from debian, how can I override the md5 check?17:56
Riddellapachelogger: what issues does it cause with filelight-l10n?18:07
Riddellapachelogger: you can't override the md5sum check, the .orig can't be changed18:07
apacheloggeromg18:07
apacheloggerRiddell: our .orig includes the po direcotry used in -l10n18:07
apacheloggerhm, I could just create a debian/install file and not install the l10n stuff18:08
Riddellyou could18:09
seeleanyone here use an internationalized keyboard? i cant figure out how to get a regular single quote/apostrophe instead of an accent18:10
seele´18:10
seeleoh, that didn work in open office18:10
Riddellit depends to what the keyboard is internationalised18:11
seelegeneric 101 key.  my single quote turned in to the tilted one which is tilted in the wrong direction18:12
seeledo i have to remap it to the correct character?18:12
seeleoh, US generic.  dunno if that part matters18:12
seelehmm.. i guess wordpress escapes the tilted apostrophe so it won´t matter anyway18:17
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apachelogger-.-18:22
apacheloggerRiddell: applying patches fails due to different Makefile.ins18:22
Riddellwise man says, don't bother patching Makefile.ins18:23
apacheloggerpoor debian ain't wise :|18:23
apacheloggerRiddell: I think I'll just apply useful changes from debian18:27
apacheloggerRiddell: filelight uploaded19:06
Riddellyay19:07
apacheloggerRiddell: what's next?19:08
RiddellI think we're good for kde merges19:09
apacheloggerRiddell: did someone merge amarok yet?19:10
apacheloggerI noticed debian has a new maintainer and loads of changes19:10
RiddellI didn't notice it in merges.ubuntu.com19:10
Riddelloh, because we have a epoch19:11
Riddellso that could do with a merge indeed19:11
* apachelogger merges amarok19:11
ScottKNew python-qt4 was just uploaded too.19:18
* jussi01 tickles stdin19:52
* stdin flops about wildly19:53
apacheloggerhm20:06
apacheloggerdoes simple-patchsys respect patches/series?20:07
stdindoesn't look like it20:08
stdinlooks like it just runs through all the files in debian/patches20:08
apacheloggerawful20:10
* apachelogger switches amarok to quilt20:11
stdinit does say "simple" ;)20:11
apacheloggersimple doesn't mean dangerous :P20:11
seelegrr.. int´l keyboard fail20:12
seeleso i guess wordpress doesn´t convert fancy quotes inside html tags :P20:12
RiddellScottK: did you say you had a fix for python-qt3 compile?20:34
harolddongwhere is the folder view plasmoid is the latest packages?20:57
Riddellkdebase-plasmoid20:58
Riddellwell, kdebase-plasma21:01
harolddongI see kdeplasmoids which is installed but neither of the names you mentioned21:03
smarterharolddong: libplasma2?21:13
harolddonglibplasma2 is already installed as well21:15
smarterw00t, finally we have a working kdebindings/python-kde421:16
stdinharolddong: the package was missing, kdebase-plasma-kde4 should be in the repos whenever the buildd decide to get around to it21:21
stdindoesn't help that someone has decided to built the linux kernel over and over again :|21:22
apacheloggerhappens a lot21:24
stdinamd64: 37 builds waiting in queue, i386: 22 builds waiting in queue21:25
Tm_Toh boy21:25
Tm_Tcollect2: ld terminated with signal 11 [Segmentation fault]21:25
stdinonly lpia is available, and no one runs lpia anyway :p21:25
stdinwell, when ld crashes, bad things are happening21:26
Tm_TI really wonder why ld keeps segfaulting21:26
Tm_TI don't know how to track this issue down21:27
ScottKRiddell: Yes.  It's done (merged the new upstream where they dropped the konsole bits).21:41
RiddellScottK: but it hasn't been uploaded?21:52
JontheEchidna@Packagers of 4.1 beta packages, you might want to look at bug 24019722:02
stdinwell, I didn't package that one ;)22:05
JontheEchidnaheh22:08
stdinkdesdk-kde4 4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy2~ppa1 uploaded22:10
stdinnow to wait several hours for the build to start...22:10
daSkreechmetellius: Ping22:20
smarterRiddell: ping22:42
blistovi accidentally installed using Canadian key layout, but the console can't deal with the accents.22:59
blistovHow do I switch it back to US?23:00
daSkreechSupport should be in #kubuntu23:00
blistovok, is the console being ... un-usable also a support issue?23:05
blistovie, can't type, no slash...23:05
blistovreplaced with an accented e...23:05
ScottKRiddell: Yes.  I think.23:06
* ScottK looks23:06
ScottKRiddell: Sorry.  I had a solution to python-kde3, not -qt3.23:07
ScottKhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/python-kde3/3.16.1-1ubuntu123:07
Riddellsmhi23:56
Riddelloh23:56
RiddellScottK: ah, silly me23:57

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