RAOF | !xrandr | 03:56 |
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ubottu | XRandR 1.2 is the new method of running dual screens in !X. Information/HowTo here: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 | 03:56 |
pottytheshitter | I like to dine on my own shit | 05:29 |
pottytheshitter | I also race gerbils up my ass | 05:34 |
pottytheshitter | Peace | 05:35 |
pottytheshitter | !ops | 05:35 |
ubottu | Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jdavies, bazhang or jussi01! | 05:35 |
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derekS | hello all. i have interpid running and i noticed new behavior in dual screen mode. my 2 panels (one for each screen) become the length of both monitors (so i now only need one). The catch is I can't have a window list for each screen, is this expected> | 06:04 |
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DanaG | Odd: I can't seem to use this bluetooth headset with my computer. | 09:08 |
DanaG | Gnome bluetooth thingy shows audio service: stopped. | 09:08 |
DanaG | And I can't check or uncheck any of the "Services" boxes. | 09:08 |
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amikrop | Hello. Excuse me, but I woud like to express and idea. From Intrepid and on, I think this tactic should be followed: During the installation, the system checks how many root (or something else) partitions there are, and if there is only one, should set "timeout 0" instead of "timeout 3" in /boot/grub/menu.lst. | 15:13 |
amikrop | I mean, I think there is no point in slowing down the boot process for no reason. | 15:15 |
lamalex | amikrop: that's a terrible idea | 15:16 |
amikrop | lamalex: And why's that? | 15:16 |
lamalex | what about when you need to run memtest, or get into single user mode | 15:16 |
lamalex | or boot an old kernel after a bad upgrade | 15:17 |
amikrop | lamalex: Then, you would start pressing "Esc" before even GRUB starts up. | 15:17 |
lamalex | :\ that's very cryptic and ugly | 15:18 |
lamalex | 3 seconds is a very short period of time | 15:18 |
marcreichelt | hi there | 15:18 |
marcreichelt | does anybody know how I can install Kubuntu 8.10 (with KDE 4.1 Beta2) in a virtual machine for testing purposes? | 15:19 |
Hobbsee | marcreichelt: same as you would on a normal machine.... | 15:24 |
marcreichelt | yes, but where do I get the images? ;) | 15:25 |
marcreichelt | or do I have to install Kubuntu 8.04 and do a manual upgrade? | 15:25 |
Hobbsee | correct. | 15:26 |
marcreichelt | okay, that was helpful | 15:26 |
marcreichelt | one last question: if I want KDE 4.1 Beta2 as the standard system, should I use Kubuntu 8.04 with KDE4? | 15:27 |
Hobbsee | um, i don't think it matters. | 15:30 |
Hobbsee | it looks like it's switching to kde4 by default (one of my kde3 apps just upgraded to a kde4 one) | 15:30 |
mcquaid | not entriped related but kinda desperate. gutsy --> hardy upgrade seemed to go fine but hardy fails to boot. Also fails in recovery mode and even the old gutsy kernel left behind fails to boot as well | 15:34 |
mcquaid | i've booted off a live cd. apt-get update says everything is up to date. Is there a way to reconfigure everything from a chroot envrionment? | 15:34 |
mcquaid | dpkg-reconfigure -a didn't go well | 15:34 |
marcreichelt | okay, thanks Hobbsee | 15:34 |
* marcreichelt is ready to test Intrepid... | 15:35 | |
Hobbsee | marcreichelt: you're welcome, but it's still kinda broken. | 15:35 |
Hobbsee | !chroot | 15:35 |
ubottu | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box | 15:35 |
Hobbsee | mcquaid: use sudo chroot /path/to/bad/system su | 15:36 |
mcquaid | su at the end? | 15:37 |
mcquaid | didn't use that... | 15:37 |
Hobbsee | you can use either, i think | 15:37 |
Hobbsee | as in, either su, or nothing. | 15:37 |
Hobbsee | i think either dump you in a root shell, from memory | 15:37 |
mcquaid | ok well i did that (without su) and it seems like a noraml chroot environ, but doing dpkg-reconfigure -a gives a lot of errors like: | 15:38 |
mcquaid | stuff dealing with /proc filesystems | 15:38 |
Hobbsee | !pastebin | 15:38 |
ubottu | pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) | 15:38 |
mcquaid | cause their not mounted/setup | 15:38 |
Hobbsee | er, they shouldn't be errors - or at least, not fatal ones | 15:38 |
mcquaid | Hobbsee, this is what i get doing dpkg-reconfigure -a from the live cd via chroot: | 15:42 |
mcquaid | http://paste.ubuntu.com/22872/ | 15:42 |
mcquaid | certainly doesn't look like a complete reconfigure... | 15:42 |
Hobbsee | mcquaid: i suspect you wanted dpkg --configure -a? | 15:43 |
Hobbsee | but no, it doesn't. | 15:44 |
mcquaid | actually i tried dpkg --configure -a first but it does nothing | 15:44 |
mcquaid | it's been a long time but i thought there was a way to make a more complete chroot environ with dev/sys/proc set up | 15:45 |
mcquaid | i'm wondering if it would avoid these errors | 15:45 |
Hobbsee | figuring out how to mount /proc is probably a good idea, yes. | 15:49 |
h3sp4wn_ | either mount --bind or just mounting a seperate /proc will work | 15:53 |
mcquaid | not sure if i'm correct did it this way: sudo mount -t proc proc /media/gutsy/proc | 15:56 |
mcquaid | but not dpkg-reconfigure -a fails at acpid: can't open /proc/acpi/event: Device or resource busy | 15:57 |
mcquaid | so i've probably setup proc incorrectly... | 15:57 |
mcquaid | hmm, it looks setup ok. but there is no event under proc/acpi | 15:59 |
mcquaid | is there a way to tell dpkg-reconfigure to skip/continue | 15:59 |
mcquaid | i'm wondering if i don't have event cause it's a chroot environ | 16:01 |
mcquaid | there should be an easier way to reconfigure pkgs from a live cd | 16:01 |
h3sp4wn_ | basically you can just look in /var/lib/dpkg/info and change the right line to - echo 'whatever' and then it will past it | 16:08 |
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EagleScreen | hello | 16:58 |
EagleScreen | will kubuntu 8.10 use desktop effects? | 16:59 |
rsk | dunno | 16:59 |
Luckrider_ | !pastebin | 17:00 |
ubottu | pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) | 17:00 |
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cbr | is it a known bug that kernel 2.6.26 and usplash fail? | 17:46 |
cbr | and iwl-wifi fails too | 17:46 |
Kaivijz | Hi everyone | 19:38 |
ethana2 | hello | 19:38 |
Kaivijz | How can i help the community to develop ubuntu further? | 19:43 |
ethana2 | alpha testing, brainstorm... | 19:44 |
Kaivijz | I really want to help, but i am not that great in programming | 19:44 |
ethana2 | ah | 19:44 |
ethana2 | ...yes, alpha testing and brainstorm | 19:44 |
ethana2 | I don't code either | 19:44 |
Kaivijz | Ok | 19:44 |
Kaivijz | And bug resolving? Do you know in what language ubuntu is made, C++, C#,Python | 19:45 |
ethana2 | all | 19:45 |
ethana2 | the kernel and core utils are C | 19:45 |
Kaivijz | Ok, do you know what mentoring is? | 19:46 |
ethana2 | a lot of the configuration scripts are bash and python | 19:46 |
Kaivijz | Ok | 19:46 |
ethana2 | some apps are C++, C#, and python | 19:46 |
ethana2 | mentoring? yeah | 19:46 |
ethana2 | you ever done any packaging? | 19:46 |
Kaivijz | Is it just like a teacher? Who helps you learn things and advices you. | 19:46 |
ethana2 | #ubuntu-motu may be able to use you | 19:47 |
Kaivijz | No | 19:47 |
ethana2 | yeah, pretty much | 19:47 |
Kaivijz | Ok | 19:47 |
Kaivijz | Packaging is making .deb files? | 19:48 |
ethana2 | pretty much | 19:48 |
Kaivijz | Ok, i am actually reading the MOTU site at the moment | 19:52 |
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WelshDragon | Any word on first alpha yet? | 20:25 |
ethana2 | postponed | 20:54 |
ethana2 | may be the word you're looking for | 20:54 |
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