[03:56] !xrandr [03:56] XRandR 1.2 is the new method of running dual screens in !X. Information/HowTo here: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 [05:29] I like to dine on my own shit [05:34] I also race gerbils up my ass [05:35] Peace [05:35] !ops [05:35] Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jdavies, bazhang or jussi01! === gaminggeek_ is now known as gaminggeek [06:04] hello all. i have interpid running and i noticed new behavior in dual screen mode. my 2 panels (one for each screen) become the length of both monitors (so i now only need one). The catch is I can't have a window list for each screen, is this expected> === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG [09:08] Odd: I can't seem to use this bluetooth headset with my computer. [09:08] Gnome bluetooth thingy shows audio service: stopped. [09:08] And I can't check or uncheck any of the "Services" boxes. === catweazle_ is now known as catweazle === sebner_ is now known as sebner === sebner_ is now known as sebner === avc_lurk is now known as acuster [15:13] Hello. Excuse me, but I woud like to express and idea. From Intrepid and on, I think this tactic should be followed: During the installation, the system checks how many root (or something else) partitions there are, and if there is only one, should set "timeout 0" instead of "timeout 3" in /boot/grub/menu.lst. [15:15] I mean, I think there is no point in slowing down the boot process for no reason. [15:16] amikrop: that's a terrible idea [15:16] lamalex: And why's that? [15:16] what about when you need to run memtest, or get into single user mode [15:17] or boot an old kernel after a bad upgrade [15:17] lamalex: Then, you would start pressing "Esc" before even GRUB starts up. [15:18] :\ that's very cryptic and ugly [15:18] 3 seconds is a very short period of time [15:18] hi there [15:19] does anybody know how I can install Kubuntu 8.10 (with KDE 4.1 Beta2) in a virtual machine for testing purposes? [15:24] marcreichelt: same as you would on a normal machine.... [15:25] yes, but where do I get the images? ;) [15:25] or do I have to install Kubuntu 8.04 and do a manual upgrade? [15:26] correct. [15:26] okay, that was helpful [15:27] one last question: if I want KDE 4.1 Beta2 as the standard system, should I use Kubuntu 8.04 with KDE4? [15:30] um, i don't think it matters. [15:30] it looks like it's switching to kde4 by default (one of my kde3 apps just upgraded to a kde4 one) [15:34] not entriped related but kinda desperate. gutsy --> hardy upgrade seemed to go fine but hardy fails to boot. Also fails in recovery mode and even the old gutsy kernel left behind fails to boot as well [15:34] i've booted off a live cd. apt-get update says everything is up to date. Is there a way to reconfigure everything from a chroot envrionment? [15:34] dpkg-reconfigure -a didn't go well [15:34] okay, thanks Hobbsee [15:35] * marcreichelt is ready to test Intrepid... [15:35] marcreichelt: you're welcome, but it's still kinda broken. [15:35] !chroot [15:35] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box [15:36] mcquaid: use sudo chroot /path/to/bad/system su [15:37] su at the end? [15:37] didn't use that... [15:37] you can use either, i think [15:37] as in, either su, or nothing. [15:37] i think either dump you in a root shell, from memory [15:38] ok well i did that (without su) and it seems like a noraml chroot environ, but doing dpkg-reconfigure -a gives a lot of errors like: [15:38] stuff dealing with /proc filesystems [15:38] !pastebin [15:38] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [15:38] cause their not mounted/setup [15:38] er, they shouldn't be errors - or at least, not fatal ones [15:42] Hobbsee, this is what i get doing dpkg-reconfigure -a from the live cd via chroot: [15:42] http://paste.ubuntu.com/22872/ [15:42] certainly doesn't look like a complete reconfigure... [15:43] mcquaid: i suspect you wanted dpkg --configure -a? [15:44] but no, it doesn't. [15:44] actually i tried dpkg --configure -a first but it does nothing [15:45] it's been a long time but i thought there was a way to make a more complete chroot environ with dev/sys/proc set up [15:45] i'm wondering if it would avoid these errors [15:49] figuring out how to mount /proc is probably a good idea, yes. [15:53] either mount --bind or just mounting a seperate /proc will work [15:56] not sure if i'm correct did it this way: sudo mount -t proc proc /media/gutsy/proc [15:57] but not dpkg-reconfigure -a fails at acpid: can't open /proc/acpi/event: Device or resource busy [15:57] so i've probably setup proc incorrectly... [15:59] hmm, it looks setup ok. but there is no event under proc/acpi [15:59] is there a way to tell dpkg-reconfigure to skip/continue [16:01] i'm wondering if i don't have event cause it's a chroot environ [16:01] there should be an easier way to reconfigure pkgs from a live cd [16:08] basically you can just look in /var/lib/dpkg/info and change the right line to - echo 'whatever' and then it will past it === ubott2 is now known as ubottu [16:58] hello [16:59] will kubuntu 8.10 use desktop effects? [16:59] dunno [17:00] !pastebin [17:00] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) === kalpik_ is now known as kalpik [17:46] is it a known bug that kernel 2.6.26 and usplash fail? [17:46] and iwl-wifi fails too [19:38] Hi everyone [19:38] hello [19:43] How can i help the community to develop ubuntu further? [19:44] alpha testing, brainstorm... [19:44] I really want to help, but i am not that great in programming [19:44] ah [19:44] ...yes, alpha testing and brainstorm [19:44] I don't code either [19:44] Ok [19:45] And bug resolving? Do you know in what language ubuntu is made, C++, C#,Python [19:45] all [19:45] the kernel and core utils are C [19:46] Ok, do you know what mentoring is? [19:46] a lot of the configuration scripts are bash and python [19:46] Ok [19:46] some apps are C++, C#, and python [19:46] mentoring? yeah [19:46] you ever done any packaging? [19:46] Is it just like a teacher? Who helps you learn things and advices you. [19:47] #ubuntu-motu may be able to use you [19:47] No [19:47] yeah, pretty much [19:47] Ok [19:48] Packaging is making .deb files? [19:48] pretty much [19:52] Ok, i am actually reading the MOTU site at the moment === beeant_ is now known as beeant [20:25] Any word on first alpha yet? [20:54] postponed [20:54] may be the word you're looking for === Spec is now known as Spec[x]