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| emgent | heya | 00:18 |
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| osmosis | how come this link doesn't show linux-image-.2.6.24-19-server ? http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/linux-image | 03:36 |
| crimsun_ | because it doesn't pull from hardy-proposed. | 03:37 |
| osmosis | crimsun_: I dont see that im pulling from hardy-proposed either in my source.list. But linux-image-2.6.24-19-server is the latest. | 03:38 |
| crimsun_ | right, because it's now in hardy-updates | 03:38 |
| crimsun_ | once packages.u.c executes its crontab (on whatever frequency), it will be listed. | 03:39 |
| osmosis | okay | 03:39 |
| osmosis | crimsun_: thanks for the clarification | 03:40 |
| crimsun_ | yw | 03:40 |
| osmosis | crimsun_: is there any other way for me to view the chanelog, besides packages.ubuntu.com | 03:40 |
| crimsun_ | aptitude changelog linux-image-2.6.24-19-server | 03:41 |
| osmosis | saweet | 03:41 |
| crimsun_ | you can also view https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/linux/2.6.24-19.34 | 03:42 |
| lamont | zinc (kernel.ubuntu.com) will be offline starting in about 18 minutes for an upgrade | 03:42 |
| lamont | officially it'll be down for < 4hours, practically speaking, it should be less than that by quite a bit | 03:42 |
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| lamont | kernel.ubuntu.com upgrade is complete. enjoy. | 05:12 |
| osmosis | is a daemon required when using speedstep ? | 06:29 |
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| berzerka | how is the CAP_SYS_RAWIO capability handled in ubuntu? i am developing a userspace USB driver and read with ioctl from /dev/bus/usb/*/*. on my gentoo machine, no problem. on ubuntu i get "Operation not permitted" and the only thing i can imagine is that the RAWIO capability is disabled. on the other hand, it doesn't even work using sudo. any ideas? | 09:10 |
| pwnguin | capability? | 09:21 |
| pwnguin | as in ACL, or as in kernel config? | 09:21 |
| berzerka | i think as in ACL | 09:23 |
| berzerka | i do raw io to device files, and read in the kernel USB documentation that i need the CAP_SYS_RAWIO capability. | 09:23 |
| pwnguin | afaik, ubuntu doesn't enable acls by default | 09:23 |
| pwnguin | check mount | 09:23 |
| berzerka | i am using the device files provided by udev, not usbfs. | 09:24 |
| berzerka | so what to look out for? | 09:24 |
| pwnguin | usually some option like acl | 09:24 |
| berzerka | udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755) | 09:25 |
| pwnguin | (im not sure udev has acls) | 09:25 |
| berzerka | this line? no acl... | 09:25 |
| pwnguin | the only time i bothered with ACL was when i was trying out a ThinkFinger patch | 09:25 |
| berzerka | well do i _need_ ACL when i want to do raw device io? | 09:26 |
| pwnguin | I don't know =( | 09:26 |
| berzerka | the strange thing is that it also doesn't work when i am superuser | 09:26 |
| berzerka | and i think i read the uid 0 has all capabilities set. | 09:26 |
| pwnguin | is it possibile that your feature is a gentoo patch? | 09:27 |
| berzerka | no, definitely not. | 09:27 |
| berzerka | i will try on a RHEL system, hang on... | 09:27 |
| berzerka | (will take ~5 minutes, have to go to the lab..) | 09:28 |
| berzerka | okay it took a bit longer. | 09:45 |
| berzerka | (had to fix some things first..) | 09:46 |
| pwnguin | im still here . might not be any help though | 09:46 |
| berzerka | result: on RHEL, it doesn't work too. | 09:46 |
| pwnguin | well I feel better | 09:46 |
| berzerka | hehe i thought so.. | 09:46 |
| berzerka | hm okay i think i will have to read up on ACL and capabilities in general | 09:47 |
| berzerka | i will keep you informed.. | 09:47 |
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| Kano | hi BenC ,did you see this: http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/testing/ChangeLog-2.6.26-rc8 | 15:27 |
| BenC | Kano: yes, I did see it | 15:51 |
| Kano | fine | 15:51 |
| mkrufky | quick question ... i have a driver in LUM (as of last week) and i've since fixed a number of trivial things, like codingstyle compliance, some small compiler warnings, changed all functions to static and other small things like that. So I have a quilt series of a few patches that would update the driver in LUM. Meanwhile, none of these fix actual bugs, so filling out a big report for each of them would be tedious and annoying. What is the poli | 15:53 |
| mkrufky | er, bug report, i meant | 15:54 |
| BenC | mkrufky: if it doesn't fix bugs, then we generally don't want it in stable | 15:54 |
| rtg | BenC: its a new driver. | 15:54 |
| mkrufky | meanwhile, when real bug reports DO come in, i will fix them in my dev tree, which will end up merging to 2.6.27 | 15:54 |
| mkrufky | and i will not want to backport each change to the older version | 15:55 |
| BenC | rtg: has it been released yet? | 15:55 |
| mkrufky | (im talking about sms1xxx) | 15:55 |
| mkrufky | sms1xxx is in LUM, but it is not in _any_ upstream kernel tree | 15:55 |
| mkrufky | its only in my dev tree on linuxtv.org | 15:55 |
| rtg | mkrufky: just send the updates on the kernel team mailling list. once its actually been uploaded, then we'll have to go through the SRU process. | 15:55 |
| mkrufky | i had to push it to LUM because Dell needed it for testing | 15:55 |
| rtg | BenC: sms1xxx is in LUM git, but not yet uploaded. | 15:56 |
| mkrufky | "once its actually been uploaded" <-- what are you refering to? | 15:56 |
| mkrufky | oh, you mean released in a deb package? | 15:56 |
| rtg | mkrufky: right. once it hits the -proposed/-updates repo its gonna be subject to SRU policy. | 15:57 |
| mkrufky | so, does that mean that it is not subject to that policy yet? | 15:58 |
| rtg | mkrufky: correct | 15:58 |
| mkrufky | ...in other words, am i best off just sending in a "sync to dev tree" patch now before it is uploaded? | 15:58 |
| rtg | mkrufky: yes | 15:58 |
| mkrufky | ok, in that case i have some merging to do ... bbiab :-) | 15:59 |
| BenC | mkrufky, rtg: Ok, if it's not uploaded, then updating it is ok | 15:59 |
| BenC | well, s/ok/fine by me/ :) | 15:59 |
| mkrufky | thanks | 15:59 |
| rtg | mkrufky: I won't upload LUM before about July 7. | 15:59 |
| mkrufky | ah, i didnt realize there was that much lead time... ok, cool | 16:00 |
| rtg | mkrufky: the point release is scheduled for Jult 3, and I'm off rafting through the 6th. | 16:00 |
| mkrufky | OK | 16:01 |
| mkrufky | also, looks like i will end up getting all the hvr950q performance tweaks into 2.6.26, so we will most likely not need it in intrepid LUM at all | 16:01 |
| BenC | mkrufky: nice | 16:04 |
| BenC | Ok, I stopped being a lazy bastard and rebased to -rc8 and pushed | 16:20 |
| Kano | nice boy | 16:21 |
| Kano | and you disabled XEN, nice for nvidia | 16:22 |
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| zul | BenC: fyi redhat pushed their xen pvops/dom0 tree to 2.6.26 as well | 16:54 |
| exodos | In some situations it is needed to run 32bit userland with 64bit kernel (we're running hardy under xen like this). Now you have to download deb packages and manually issue dpkg -i --force-architecture *.deb. In debian, in 32bit repositories they have package called linux-image-2.6-amd64, which is installing the latest 64bit kernel. Would it be possible to add similar funcionality to ubuntu kernel? | 16:59 |
| mjg59 | Only if you want certain things to break in bizarre ways | 16:59 |
| exodos | mjg59: what do you mean? | 17:01 |
| mjg59 | CPUs in 64-bit mode aren't perfectly compatible with CPUs in 32-bit mode | 17:02 |
| exodos | mjg59: can you point me to more infos about this issue? | 17:03 |
| mjg59 | exodos: The prime issue is that vm86 mode doesn't exist in 64-bit mode. That's probably not a huge problem | 17:03 |
| mjg59 | exodos: The other one (which is a bug, but not always trivial to track down) is that ioctls need to be thunked from 32-bit to 64-bit | 17:03 |
| mkrufky | some (but not all) provide a compat_ioctl32 wrapper to handle that compat | 17:04 |
| mkrufky | oops, some but not all kernel subsystems, that is | 17:04 |
| BenC | usb printer I think is the main one that doesn't | 17:05 |
| BenC | but that may have changed recently | 17:05 |
| exodos | we're running it under xen, so now real hardware there... | 17:07 |
| BenC | exodos: but if I make a 64-bit kernel available to 32-bit userland, people wont use it just under xen :) | 17:07 |
| BenC | exodos: what purpose do you have of running 32-bit userland under a 64-bit kernel? | 17:08 |
| exodos | I would say its their problem | 17:08 |
| exodos | we have to use 64bit kernel with latest xen | 17:08 |
| exodos | 32bit kernels are just simply not working with it | 17:08 |
| exodos | and 32bit domU is used as a terminal server (LTSP) | 17:09 |
| BenC | well, you have an easy work around, so I say go with it :) | 17:09 |
| exodos | you mean with wget and dpkg ? | 17:10 |
| BenC | exodos: it would be pretty simple to automate dpkg-deb to convert the deb to amd64, and create a local repo to add to sources.list | 17:10 |
| BenC | some shell scripting from a cron job would ease your burden | 17:11 |
| BenC | which, to put it bluntly, is acceptable to me compared to the burden we would get from users trying to run a 64-bit kernel in 32-bit userland :) | 17:12 |
| exodos | ok, so to summarize: i shouldn't expect mentioned funcionality in interpid. Am I correct? | 17:14 |
| BenC | that's correct, but then maybe intrepid's 32-bit xen kernel will work better for you | 17:14 |
| exodos | thx for help, bye | 17:27 |
| kirkland | rtg: I'm running your linux - 2.6.24-20.35ubuntu kernel, but it doesn't appear to fix the ecryptfs issue | 18:31 |
| kirkland | rtg: can you confirm that that kernel has the cherry picked fix I identified? | 18:32 |
| kirkland | rtg: 2.6.24-20.35ubuntu3, to be precise | 18:32 |
| rtg | kirkland: I am ' dget http://ppa.launchpad.net/timg-tpi/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux_2.6.24-20.35ubuntu3.dsc' which has the last commit SHA1 noted in the changelog entry. However, I believe it has the ecryptfs commit: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-hardy.git;a=commit;h=6f137e40d6d2456fd23b0f2f342eabd44c50656a | 18:38 |
| rtg | I'll know in a couple of minutes. | 18:39 |
| rtg | kirkland: last commit in that upload was 12c0aa7d1af0468d5c8941ee30056bc3e74c2c07, so the ecryptfs commit is definitely there. | 18:41 |
| kirkland | rtg: :-/ | 18:41 |
| kirkland | rtg: bummer | 18:41 |
| kirkland | rtg: what kind of shape is the 2.6.26 kernel for intrepid it? is it ready to run/boot? | 18:42 |
| rtg | kirkland: yep - I think BenC has been running it for awhile. | 18:42 |
| kirkland | rtg: what about in a KVM? | 18:42 |
| kirkland | rtg: i've had no success running intrepid + 2.6.26 in a kvm | 18:43 |
| rtg | kirkland: likely, but I couldn't say for sure. | 18:43 |
| voicu | Hi, i have the kernel linux-2.6.24-19-generic and i'm trying to install vmware tools. they need to be compiled and require the headers | 18:54 |
| voicu | when configuring starts it says that the files in /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-19-generic/include don't match the kernel | 18:54 |
| voicu | any ideas besides vmware's fault? | 18:55 |
| voicu | uh, is my question offtopic? :D | 18:55 |
| rtg | voicu: I think vmware supplies the binaries, so they should be providing an update any day now. | 18:56 |
| voicu | so they are in the repositories or something? | 18:56 |
| rtg | voicu: right, one of the partner repositories iirc. | 18:57 |
| voicu | rtg: what should i look for? xserver-xorg-video-vmware? | 18:59 |
| voicu | That's already installed | 18:59 |
| voicu | But the system doesn't work as fast as it used to when I had the compiled vmware-tools | 18:59 |
| rtg | voicu: dunno, I've not used vmware in a couple of years. | 19:00 |
| voicu | rtg: anyway, any ideas on the kernel version thing? | 19:00 |
| rtg | I have to do pretty much all of my work on bare metal. | 19:00 |
| voicu | I might need to compile stuff later too | 19:00 |
| rtg | voicu: I notified the right person at Canonical about the ABI change a couple of weeks ago (who should have contacted vmware). I guess you'll have to wait until vmware produces an ABI compatible package. | 19:02 |
| voicu | aham... | 19:03 |
| voicu | any way to change that? can't i put something in include/linux/version.h? | 19:03 |
| voicu | *quickfix | 19:03 |
| rtg | voicu: I have no idea. feel free to go exploring. | 19:04 |
| voicu | ok then, thanks for the info | 19:04 |
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| BenC | rtg: know anything about the heci driver in lum? | 21:50 |
| rtg | uh, what is heci? | 21:51 |
| rtg | BenC: its an Intel driver, is it already upstream? | 21:53 |
| rtg | guess not. | 21:54 |
| BenC | Doesn't look like it | 21:55 |
| BenC | it's the AMT_HECI | 21:55 |
| rtg | BenC: something related to http://www.intel.com/technology/platform-technology/intel-amt/ ? | 21:58 |
| BenC | yeah | 22:11 |
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