/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/06/25/#xubuntu.txt

Claw6hello anybody can help me? when i turn the roaming mode off wireless lan isnt working anymore... key is fine DCHP too00:23
Claw6is that a know problem anyway?00:23
pleia2cody-somerville: you about?01:01
sprauerkrautMy Kodak EasyShare M1033 doesn't seem to automount in xubuntu 7.10, is there a way i an manually mount it?02:02
sprauerkrautdoes anyone know how I can manually mount my digital camera?02:12
TheSheepsprauerkraut: does lsubs show it?02:17
TheSheeplsusb02:17
sprauerkrautlemme see02:17
sprauerkrautyes02:18
sprauerkrautBus 004 Device 007: ID 040a:0598 Kodak Co.02:18
sprauerkrautBus 004 Device 007: ID 040a:0598 Kodak Co.02:18
sprauerkrautso is there still hope?02:20
TheSheepdoes ls /proc/bus/usb show anything?02:21
TheSheepor /sys/bus/usb02:21
sprauerkraut ls /proc/bus/usb doesn't show anything02:22
sprauerkrautls /sys/bus usb shows:02:22
sprauerkrautdevices  drivers  drivers_autoprobe  drivers_probe02:22
TheSheepsprauerkraut: I'm trying to find where it says what device your camera is bound to02:23
sprauerkrautTheSheep: i understand, i can't figure that one out myself, thats why im on here02:23
sprauerkrautTheSheep: yeah, how do i know what device its bound to?02:23
TheSheepsprauerkraut: maybe just run 'sudo lsusb | less' and look for your camera there02:24
sprauerkrautTheSheep: it shows it there, but doesn't give me a device02:24
sprauerkrautTheSheep: well, i lied, it gives me this "Bus 004 Device 008: ID 040a:0598 Kodak Co."02:25
sprauerkrautTheSheep: can i use any information there to mount?02:25
TheSheepsprauerkraut: are you sure it behaves like an usb drive? do you need a special program on windows to access it?02:26
=== lavish_ is now known as lavish
sprauerkrautTheSheep: im not really sure, i mean, it came with software, but who uses that, haha02:27
sprauerkrautTheSheep: i know it has an internal drive02:27
TheSheepsprauerkraut: so you can just connect it under windows and it's visible as a disk?02:28
sprauerkrautTheSheep: does this help any "[ 2256.868000] usb 4-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 902:28
sprauerkrautTheSheep: i don't have a windows machine02:28
TheSheepI ask because some cameras are not visible as a disk, tehy use special software to communicate with computer, and if that's the case, you cannot mount it, you must install and use f-spot or similar program to manage the photos02:29
sprauerkrautf-spot eh?02:29
TheSheepit's the default photo viewer for ubuntu02:29
sprauerkrautk, i'll check it out02:29
TheSheepnot sure if gqview can manage cameras too02:29
sprauerkrautk i'll look at that too02:31
TheSheepah, 'fdisk -l' might list your camera if it's mountable02:31
TheSheepsudo fdisk -l02:31
sprauerkrautnope, don't see it02:32
cody-somervillepleia2, am now02:33
sprauerkrautTheSheep: f-spot is doing the trick02:33
sprauerkrautTheSheep: thanks for your help holmes02:34
=== tuna-fish is now known as tuna
=== btipling_ is now known as btipling
=== daurnimator is now known as zz_daurnimator
=== zz_daurnimator is now known as daurnimator
qkallhi i'm having a problem getting the d-bus plugin on pidgin working on xubuntu 64bit. 8.0405:33
jarnosI can't make shared printing work in 8.04. Do you have to open some ports for some services in the server machine?07:25
zoredachejarnos: unless you did something the firewall defaults to an open state07:50
jarnoszoredache: I use Firestarter. I had to open port for SSH server, but I have not configured otherwise. I think inbound traffic is restricted by default.07:57
jarnosAnyway what is the name of the network service associated with shared printing?08:00
Myrttidepends on what kind of shared printing your doing08:01
Myrtticups can do a lot, but if you want the servers to be shared to Windows clients, then samba is needed also08:01
jarnosMyrtti: Now it would be enough to get cups working. But cups is not listed as a service name in Firestarter's policy editor.08:11
Myrttiwhat about cupsd08:11
HiedraVenonataHi, I was editing menus on Xubuntu and I accidentally... er... how to put this? Saved over the default main menu, with applications and settings and everything. Is there any way I can get back the default layout? Or at least the way to rebuild it, with the code for a setting list and an applications list etc?08:12
HiedraVenonataat the moment, when you click on it you just get a name that says, 'settings'... but doesn't actually DO anything08:13
jarnosMyrtti: neither that.08:13
HiedraVenonata(Xubuntu 7.10)08:13
jarnosHiedraVenonata: good question. I think there should be a command to rebuild menu.08:14
HiedraVenonatayes08:15
HiedraVenonataJarnos: at the moment it is difficult to start most applications08:15
jarnosHiedraVenonata: does xfce4-appfinder help?08:17
HiedraVenonataI'm a little new to Xubuntu... I can open 'run application' by alt-f2 - is there another way?08:18
HiedraVenonatajarnos: The other day Firefox shut down and wouldn't work, and to close it I would need to open System Monitor, but I couldn't OPEN system monitor08:19
jarnosHiedraVenonata: how could you open firefox, then?08:20
HiedraVenonatajarnos: I had the launcher on a panel08:20
jarnosHiedraVenonata: try to put launcher for xfce4-terminal in a panel. In terminal you can launch "xfce4-appfinder &".08:22
jarnosHiedraVenonata: or put it's launcher straight in a panel.08:22
HiedraVenonatajarnos: I'll try that,,, if I can open terminal08:22
jarnosHiedraVenonata: Why couldn't you if you make a launcher for it in a panel?08:31
HiedraVenonatacan I do that by just right-clicking and 'add new item'08:48
HiedraVenonatajarnos: so in terminal I type xfce4-appfinder &   ?08:50
jarnosHiedraVenonata: yes08:51
HiedraVenonataokay08:51
HiedraVenonataI now have appfinder open08:51
HiedraVenonatajarnos: wonderful,,,08:51
jarnosHiedraVenonata: I suppose now it is easier to launch applications by it than by a broken menu.08:51
HiedraVenonatajarnos: how did I add that to the panel?08:51
jarnosHiedraVenonata: right-click a panel an add item.08:52
HiedraVenonatajarnos: can you add anything though? I thought it had only a small selection... of course I add a custom launcher. Why didn't I think of that? Oh I did. Never mind. Thanks08:53
jarnosHiedraVenonata: you can add a launcher for any application.08:53
HiedraVenonatajarnos: I just remembered custom launcher... but what is the command for System Monitor? In case Firefox stops working, or any other program, and it needs to be terminated via that?08:54
jarnosHiedraVenonata: gnome-system-monitor08:55
HiedraVenonatajarnos: it's just there in Appfinder... this is great. I don't suppose gnome-do would work on Xubuntu...? gnome-do is ultimate, although I never use that term08:55
jarnosHiedraVenonata: You'll be surprised how many gnome and kde apps work by xubuntu.08:56
HiedraVenonatajarnos: oh? maybe I'll download gnome-do... it is truly great. Only this computer is terribly slow, so maybe it wouldn't run... I have plenty of space, just not speed,,,08:57
jarnosHiedraVenonata: What is gnome-do?08:58
HiedraVenonatajarnos: it is a program,,, the command to open is windows-key (I don't know the proper name, but on computers designed for windows it looks like a windows flag,,,) and space bar, and a box opens in the middle of the screen, and you type and it does things,,, it gives you a list of options, you can search the web, start a chat, open applications, log out, shut down, all sorts of things, almost anything you can imagine09:00
HiedraVenonatajarnos: got to go,,, thanks for your help. just search the web for gnome-do09:00
* jarnos still wonders why he can't see the shared printer in a client Xubuntu computer.09:02
* jarnos is considering installing another distribution on printer server computer.09:26
=== pronto is now known as pronto-aWay
* pronto-aWay is Away, Reason: ( sleep ) | Since: ( Tuesday, June 24, 2008. 03:34:21 ) Xlack v2.110:07
Myrtti!away > pronto-aWay10:12
gynterkNewest Xubuntu, VLC media player 0.8.6e, can't pause after loading subtitles. DVD-s play in slow motion (like play, stop, play, stop etc)-11:09
Woo_what uses less resources, ubuntu or kubuntu?11:14
TheSheepWoo_: xubuntu11:30
gynterknobuntu11:30
pingu__Hallo, how do i start the xfce4-weather-plugin ?11:38
TheSheeppingu__: right-click on the panel, select 'add item', select the weather plugin, configure it11:40
Woo_TheSheep: I know that, but Xubuntu doesn't run on the computer.11:47
TheSheephuh? where does it run?11:48
Woo_What?11:48
Woo_I don't understand the question.11:50
=== narfee_ is now known as Narfee
=== vistakille1 is now known as vistakiller
temoto-mobiWhat software to use to manage power system?12:29
TheSheeptemoto-mobi: gnome-power-manager12:40
temoto-mobiTheSheep, so xfce is basically gnome?12:41
TheSheepno12:41
TheSheepbut it uses some programs that are used also by gnome12:41
temoto-mobiTheSheep, ok, thanks.12:42
Woo_so, which uses less resources; kubuntu or ubuntu?12:42
Woo_and is that the right use for ;?12:42
temoto-mobiWoo_, i heard gnome is less resource requiring.12:43
temoto-mobiWoo_, they basically recommend xfce when you're low at resources.12:43
temoto-mobiWoo_, or even smaller systems like blackwm.12:43
Woo_yeah, but xubuntu doesn't like my computer so i can't12:44
temoto-mobiWoo_, i think gnome ubuntu won't like your box more than x.12:44
Woo_no i ran an old ubuntu verison a few years ago on it without problems12:44
temoto-mobiWoo_, that's quite strange, isn't it?12:45
Woo_not on linux it's not12:45
Woo_though windows is updates less, i guess they would be equalyl compatible with the same release pattern12:47
TheSheepWoo_: bad news for you: xubuntu, ubuntu and kubuntu all use the same system underneath, so if xubuntu just deosn't work, there is a fair chance neither will12:48
TheSheepWoo_: what is wrong actually?12:48
Woo_after the progress bar with the xubuntu logo has run for a bit it just blinks |12:49
TheSheepcan you be a little more specific? it happens when you're booting the live cd, the alternate cd, the installed system? what blinks -- the progress bar or the whole screen or is the monitor changing modes?12:50
Woo_when i boot live, or try to install. It's just a black screen with a | in the top left.12:52
TheSheepWoo_: did you try various boot options? you get some suggestions when you press f112:53
TheSheep!boot12:53
ubottuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto12:53
Woo_i tried two boot options, live and install12:57
Woo_and memory12:57
TheSheepI mean the options you add to the boot line12:58
TheSheeplike noacpi or nolapic12:58
TheSheepthey might be needed for some computers12:58
Woo_no i haven't tried that13:01
PatriceCalveHi all!  Quick Question about screen resolution (yes,I know, not another one !)13:02
PatriceCalveis this the right place^13:02
PatriceCalve?13:02
TheSheepyes13:02
PatriceCalveExcellent, I have low-res settings (Max 800x600)...13:03
PatriceCalveI tried the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg...  but I think there's something missing...13:03
PatriceCalveThe reconfigure never asks me about my monitor or video card.13:04
TheSheepPatriceCalve: it changed, now you should use 'sudo displayconfig-gtk'13:04
TheSheepthey made a gui app for it13:04
PatriceCalvehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa man !  lol !!!! weeks of tweaking, googling !!!!13:05
TheSheepsorry :)13:05
PatriceCalveI saw this gui app once after a ctrl-alt-backspace and never had it again !13:05
pingu__Thanks, TheSheep ...but can i make the weather numbers bigger? i cannot see it really good13:06
TheSheeppingu__: I think you can make the panel larger, I'm not sure13:06
PatriceCalvethis would be a nice addition to get this utility merged with the Applications -> Settings -> SettingsManager -> Display13:07
PatriceCalveor at least have a button to launch the displayconfig-gtk from it.13:07
pingu__ok13:08
PatriceCalvewoohoo ! excellent !  I'm running the right screen resolution after 2-3 months of breaking xubuntu and re-installing the OS (I'm now quite good at installing Xubuntu, haha). thanks !13:12
Woo_TheSheep: Ubuntu booted.13:14
TheSheepWoo_: great!13:14
TheSheepPatriceCalve: excellent!13:15
Woo_any cool stuff i can do with the 1,3gb disk then? :P13:17
TheSheepWoo_: fill with pr0n13:18
=== adam is now known as maxamillion
temoto-mobiAdvice volume control tray application please.14:09
Woo_can linux make a raid 0 at start?14:09
Woo_when there isn't enough space on one of the disks14:09
sterlinginstalled xubuntu last night, awesome14:24
=== sterling is now known as ampex2
ampex2are there any keyboard shortcuts for closing an application?14:25
lc2..alt+f4 ?14:25
ampex2ok, easy enough14:26
ampex2didn't know if it was the same as on windows14:26
lc2yes14:28
lc2and if you want to be able to forcefully terminate a program14:29
lc2applications -> settings -> settings manager, go to keyboard, shortcuts, add one with your desired key combo, set the command to xkill14:29
lc2when you hit the combo, you then click on the window you want to forcefully terminate14:30
temoto-mobia,c,up,b,up,b,a,down is easy enough combo14:30
Woo_by the way ampex14:54
Woo_in linux the windows key is called super14:55
lc2lolwut14:58
lc2i thought super = windows key14:58
lc2oh wait14:58
lc2that's what you said lols14:58
lc2disregard that14:58
=== totalwor1age is now known as totalwormage
junkeRIs Opera and/or Epiphany generally a recommened browser for slower computers under Xubuntu?  Dillo is excellent for any computer, but not the best for browsing more complex websites.15:14
ablomenmidori seems to be pretty fast15:20
ablomenyou could try that15:20
ampex2junkeR: firefox too bloated for you?15:21
junkeRa little - 1.5ghz 512MB15:23
=== maxamillion is now known as notMax
lc2ablomen: wow15:45
lc2i'm installing midori now15:45
lc2After this operation, 5870kB of additional disk space will be used.15:45
lc2that's pretty impressive given how huge firefox is15:46
lc2meh, i don't like that i can't increase font size though15:48
* lc2 needs that15:48
ampex2anyone know if avant window navigator works on xubuntu?16:00
ablomenampex2, yeah it does16:07
ablomenampex2, didnt work great for me, but it didnt on gnome either so should be no problem16:07
ablomenoh and you dont need compiz if you use xfce so thats pretty cool :)16:07
ablomenjust enable compositing in the window manager tweaks window in the settings manager16:08
=== ubott2 is now known as ubottu
ampex2ablomen: how do I get to this settings manager?16:09
ablomenmenu->settings->settings manager16:10
ablomenthen window manager tweaks, and then the last tab in that window16:10
ablomenthen you just check "enable display compositing" and you should be ready to go16:10
ampex2ablomen: my last tab is "Placement"16:12
ampex2ablomen: I don't see anything about compositing16:12
ablomenoh..16:12
gynterkDVDs doesn't play normally with VLC anymore16:12
ablomendid you install the apopriate drivers for your videocard (do you have 3d rendering?)16:12
gynterkit's like stop movie16:12
gynterklike slow motion16:12
gynterkany ideas?16:12
ablomengynterk, try mplayer :)16:13
gynterklatest xubuntu16:13
gynterkhmm16:13
gynterkmplayer plays dvd-s ?16:13
gynterkdoes mplayer support subtitles?16:13
gynterkin srt and sub format16:13
ablomenyeah no problem16:13
gynterkfor normal .avi files16:13
gynterkhmm16:13
gynterki should swhitch then16:13
gynterksince it's not the first problem with VLC16:13
ablomenif you name the subtitles the same as the video file (so for example movie.avi and movie.srt) it automagicly loads the subtitles when you play the movie16:14
gynterkye16:14
gynterkthat's with vlc too :P16:14
gynterkthanks ablomen16:14
ablomennp :)16:14
gynterkdoes mplayer have firefox plugin?16:14
ablomenyeah, mozilla-mplayer out the top of my head16:16
gynterkbut does anyone know how to fix drm issue?16:18
gynterki have original lisences from windows (backup=16:18
gynterkI'm too lay to rip those 100 cd's again :D16:18
gynterklazy*16:18
ampex2anyone know how to enable composite for xfce in xubuntu 8.04?16:18
ablomenampex2, those questions where for you...16:19
ablomenafter gynterk's first message16:19
ampex2ablomen: I have the nvidia proprietary drivers installed16:19
ampex2ablomen: how can I test whether 3d is working?16:20
ablomengynterk, go back in time and slap yourself before ripping them in a drm format ;)16:20
gynterk:D16:20
gynterkit was my gf who did that :)16:20
gynterkI'll forgive her16:20
ablomenampex2, ehm install extremetuxracer and see if it is playable (forgot the command to check if the nvidia drivers are in use)16:25
ablomengynterk, anyway, dont think its possible without some hacking here and there and or verry long ffmpeg/mencoder scripts16:26
ampex2ablomen: do I need to enable composite in my xorg.conf?16:27
ablomenampex2, nah16:27
ablomenoh well yeah some sources say you do, but its not in my xorg.conf16:30
ablomenbut you can try anyway16:30
ablomenoh wait16:30
ablomenampex2, http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xfce#How_to_enable_the_compositor_in_Xfce_4.4 << see this16:30
ablomen*look at16:30
ablomenanyway i have to go16:31
ablomengood luck gynterk and ampex216:31
ampex2tux racer works just fine16:35
ampex2hmmm16:35
lc2hey wat16:50
lc2ubuntu doesn't have assaultcube in teh package repositories?16:50
TheSheeplc2: getdeb.net16:55
* lc2 is building from sauce16:55
MrNazwhats the command to put the machine into sleep mode17:17
MrNazthere's the sleep button, but i want the command so i can make the comp sleep when battery is at 10%17:17
TheSheepgnome-power-cmd.sh suspend17:18
=== notMax is now known as maxamillion
angelbladeHi..any packages for create partitions on disk using xfce?? Gui preferly17:53
junkeRgparted?17:54
angelbladeyeah , similar to gparted  (gparted is for Gnome)17:55
lc2angelblade: it doesn't matter that it's for gnome17:56
zoredacheif you look at most of the dependancies it seems to only need gtk17:56
angelbladeUhmm...ok....17:58
lc2wat17:59
DShepherdhow well does xubuntu run on only 128mb or ram?18:14
Flare183!netsplit18:15
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit18:15
Flare183DShepherd: Pretty good18:15
zoredacheDShepherd: define run18:15
DShepherdzoredache, hehe.18:16
zoredacheyou can get to a desktop, and maybe run a few apps.  You can browse the web if you use something not mozilla based as a browser18:16
Laptop125DShepherd, if just for simple things and you turn off some services it works well.18:16
DShepherdLaptop125, is there a wiki page on doing so?18:17
zoredache!lowmem | DShepherd18:17
ubottuDShepherd: For installing on low memory systems, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems.  See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements.18:17
DShepherdthanks zoredache18:18
=== ampex2 is now known as ampex
blkdghello, is there an xubuntu for a G3 imac still avaliable?19:38
blkdghardy heron to be specific.19:39
blkdgi can only seem to find a PPC port for edubuntu.19:41
blkdghello?19:44
TheSheepblkdg: I think that there is no more powerpc ubuntus19:48
blkdgi can see one for edubuntu, but i think that xubuntu might run a bit easier on these old boxes.19:49
blkdgthanks.19:52
PriceChildTheSheep: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads19:55
TheSheepoops19:56
PriceChildlooks like xubuntu's is missing, but advice there if nothing else :/19:56
TheSheep:(19:56
PriceChildi was searching ports.ubuntu.com and couldn't find it and was confusing myself :(19:56
TheSheepPriceChild: yeah, ok, I didn't know, I remember they being dropped some time ago19:56
PriceChildI'll message him, he's still online :)19:57
TheSheep:)19:58
samuel16I cannot mount my cdrom on Xubuntu20:20
samuel16this is the error message i get20:20
samuel16http://paste.ubuntu.com/22936/20:21
=== lavish_ is now known as lavish
lsolesenI am using xubuntu as my development machine for php. Having some scripts which needs file acces. Set the rights for an upload directory to all rights, but it still says permission denied when trying to remove the directory. The directory is owned by me and with all rights.21:58
zoredachelsolesen: how are you running the php script?22:04
lsolesenzoredache: just through apache?22:04
Myrttidoes *apache* have rights?22:05
zoredacheso it needs to be owned by the same user that runs apache (www-data)22:05
Myrttior, using a solution that allows you to run the stuff suid www-data22:05
floatingwhat do i use to unrar r01 r02 .rar22:07
floatingi think i have installed some cmdline rar prog but dont remember which22:07
zoredacheunrar sounds like the most likely candidate22:07
floatingi dont have that installed22:08
floatingi wonder what else there is22:08
zoredacheusually you get it via - sudo apt-get install unrar22:08
floatingill install it then22:08
zoredacheI believe file-roller (gui) will use unrar if it is installed22:09
zoredacheI am not sure if it can handle spanning archives though22:09
Maxwell332I want to switch between US *INTERNATIONAL* and Russian Winkeys keyboard layouts by toggling with alt-shift, how do I do this?22:36
Maxwell332Or if no one knows how, could someone please point me to where I can find a list of all the language/keyboard codes/abbreviations?22:36
lc2heh22:36
lc2we've had this question before22:36
lc2Maxwell332: i have the answer saved somewhere, one sec22:36
lc204:44 < lc2> applications -> settings -> settings manager22:37
Maxwell332Ty Ic2.22:37
lc2under "autostarted apps"22:37
lc204:45 < lc2> setxkbmap -option grp:switch,grp:alt_shift_toggle us,ru22:37
Maxwell332I know that.22:37
lc2log out and back in again22:38
Maxwell332But what is teh code for us former international?22:38
lc2wait, have we met before22:38
Maxwell332I think so.22:38
Maxwell332And the standard Russian layout on here is fucking odd.22:38
lc2i don't know what the layout for russian winkeys is called for xkb/s purposes22:39
lc2xkb's*22:39
Maxwell332Well where can I get a list of layouts?22:39
Maxwell332I know there is one on my system somewhere, I've seen it before22:39
Maxwell332I just cannot remember how I got to it.22:39
lc2nfi22:40
Maxwell332Damn >_<22:40
lc2:/22:41
Maxwell332Any ideas on how I could figure it out?22:41
lc2poke around in /etc/X11/xkb/22:41
cppmonkeycan anyone tell me how to clear out all the old files from the system like old kernels23:32
Stroganoffthe best way to free some disk space is this: sudo apt-get clean23:58
Stroganoffcppmonkey23:58

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!