/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/06/26/#kubuntu-devel.txt

yao_ziyuanfirefox 3's default tab look in kubuntu 8.04 is ugly00:12
yao_ziyuana theme Phoenity Reborn is recommended00:12
Riddellwell, that's us tol00:14
Riddellwell, that's us told00:14
Riddellanyone want to do new extragear packages?00:24
kwwiiRiddell: ping?00:50
Riddellhi kwwii00:50
Riddellapachelogger: are you merging amarok?01:36
NightroseRiddell: he said he was - dunno if he finished it01:37
RiddellNightrose: what was your issue with kde sound?01:43
NightroseRiddell: xine backend was missing in phonon01:43
Nightrosegstreamer didn't work01:43
Nightrosebut it is fixed now as the xine backend is back thanks to stdin01:44
Riddellhmm, I was hoping the gstreamer one would work01:44
Nightrosedidn't work for me :/01:45
NightroseI installed the "good" codecs and then gave up01:45
RiddellI've not tried it, juswt would be nice to be able to demote xine to universe as one less thing to care about01:46
Nightroseyea - if you tell me which packages could be needed I can poke at it tomorrow evening01:46
Riddellshould just be the obvious01:47
Nightroseheh I think I have those installed then01:47
crimsun_which media types do you have in your library?01:48
crimsun_(gstreamer0.10-plugins-good, gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad, and gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly covers nearly everything)01:50
Nightrosecrimsun_: me? I had no sound at all - system sounds for example01:50
Nightrosenothing worked01:50
Nightrosemight just be b0rkage in my system but...01:51
crimsun_ok, find me or themuso if/when you want to troubleshoot that further.01:51
Nightroseok :)01:52
jcastroNightrose: fyi tags and projects got implemented in brainstorm01:52
Nightrosejcastro: cool - will have a look after I got some sleep01:52
jcastroNightrose: searching for "amarok" in brainstorm should be trivial for you know01:52
Nightroseit is 3am here and i need to be up in a few hours01:52
jcastroNightrose: yep, I'm off to bed too, night!01:52
Nightrosenini :)01:53
* Nightrose snoozes01:53
=== santiago-php is now known as santiago-ve
nixternalhola04:20
yuriyevening04:23
yuriythe FSF won't let us hand out K/Ubuntu CD's with them :-\04:24
nixternalI could have told you that04:24
yuriyseems so ridiculous. and it's not like ship-it sent us any gobuntu04:25
nixternalya, I had the same issue a little over a year ago at a conference with them04:27
nixternalsome of their people were wearing anti-buntu shirts04:27
nixternaland they tried to say they weren't from the FSF04:27
nixternalbut they hung out with them the entire time04:27
nixternalI really like how they are "restricting your freedom to hand out FREE CDs"04:29
nixternalyowsers, the beta2 packages are lookin' dangerous :)04:30
ScottKNot free enough for you?04:30
nixternalnothing is ever free enough for me :)04:31
yuriynixternal: now that's a beta announcement!04:43
nixternalhehe05:00
daskreecHHi nixternal Jucato Hobbsee et al etc05:01
Hobbseeheya!05:01
daskreecHHow are you?05:01
Hobbseedoing OK05:01
Hobbseeintrepid is a bit strange now05:01
daskreecHIt's intrepid?05:03
Hobbseetrue05:04
Hobbseebut there's a new kernel and such05:04
daskreecHUgh I never update kernels05:04
apacheloggerRiddell: merge finished, I'm testing now05:36
apacheloggernixternal: is there a specific reason akonadiserver isn't built with internal mysql stuff?06:56
apacheloggerRiddell: merge commited to ~kubuntu-members/amarok/debian, please give it a review a lot of stuff changed07:20
* apachelogger heads off for some meditation07:21
daskreecHapachelogger: I have the funniest video of that07:21
daskreecH'http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X_M6gCXKBg'07:23
=== emonkey-t is now known as emonkey
ZeBarbuHello world. I would just want to know when the kdepim-kde4 pacakges will be built? I upgraded to kde4-beta2 but can't use kmail no more because of the following missing lib dep:08:41
ZeBarbukmail: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/kde4/lib/libkdepim.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN13KRichTextEdit17mouseReleaseEventEP11QMouseEvent08:41
ZeBarbucould packagers please build kdepim before less usefull ones (kdetoys was built yesterday, for example)08:42
Hobbseeon...what?08:44
Hobbseegutsy, hardy, intrepid?08:44
ZeBarbuho, sorry08:44
ZeBarbuhardy08:44
ZeBarbux8608:44
ZeBarbusorry for my aggresiv way of speaking, I'm not ungry or something. It's just a warning: we can't use kmail no more, and that is not really good! ;)08:45
ZeBarbuso, if someone in the gods team can manage to solve this problem, it may make some peoples happy :)08:46
Hobbseeis this in backports or ppa?08:49
ZeBarbuppa08:49
* Hobbsee hasn't been running hardy08:49
* Hobbsee looks08:50
ZeBarbuI think all people that followed the kubuntu announce have the same problem...08:50
ZeBarbumaybe i'm the only fool guy in the world who use kontact-kde4 for daily use :)08:51
Hobbseestdin_: any idea on that?08:51
ZeBarbuin fact, kmail is still to 4.0.80 (beta1) but many other packages are 4.0.83 (beta2)08:52
ZeBarbukdepimlibs5 is 4.0.83, but libkdepim4-kde4 is 4.0.8008:53
ZeBarbuas well as all other pim related stuff, in fact (4.0.80)08:53
ZeBarbudoes anybody else reproduce the problem?09:04
NightroseZeBarbu: yes several people have it09:05
Nightroseunfortunately you can't do a lot but wait for the package to get build09:05
ZeBarbuyeap, that's what I though... that's why I asked if the packages build order could re-thinked: some non-vital ones (kdetoys) are built before more important ones (kdepim).09:06
ZeBarbuIt's just a suggestion, I don't know if there are dependencies between them, etc...09:06
Nightrosethat is due to dependencies I think09:07
Nightroseother stuff has to be build before kontact can be buil09:07
Nightrosed09:07
Nightroseand as long as that fails...09:07
ZeBarbuyeap..09:07
ZeBarbuor maybe the announce in kubuntu was a bit too early09:07
ZeBarbuok, I was aware it is beta :)09:08
Nightrose;-)09:08
Hobbseefabo: any chance of the newest soundkonverter please?09:57
faboHobbsee: busy at work currently. I expect to do some packaging work this week-end.10:00
Hobbseefabo: great.  filing a bug in your bts :)10:00
fabo:)10:00
ZeBarbuHobbsee: just for my information: is there any kmail packages build expected date?10:01
HobbseeZeBarbu: unsure, tbh - i'm not involved in that area currently.10:01
ZeBarbuhum... do you know who is the right man I may ask this question?10:02
ZeBarbujust to know if I'd better find a failback , or just wait few hours.10:03
HobbseeRiddell: should know, i think10:03
ZeBarbuok, thanks10:03
ZeBarbuI'll try disturbing him, then ;)10:03
ZeBarbuRiddell: around here?10:03
ZeBarbuI would just want to know when I can expect having working kontact packages. Is it a matter of hours, or few days? I don't want to stress you, only to know if I'd better wait or finding a failback10:05
ZeBarbuI'm lost without all my rss streams, my calendars and working with webmails is not the easiest way of working ;)10:06
tictricZeBarbu: I only followed your thread very loosely but why don't you just use kontact/kde3?10:14
ZeBarbubecause I already switched to kontact kde410:15
ZeBarbuand I had to reconfigure all my accounts, etc...10:15
ZeBarbuok, it's beta, but if we don't really use it, we won't find bugs and improve it.10:16
tictricdoesn't matter. Just use the same files in kontact/kde3 e.g. calendar, contacts for mail you use imap10:16
tictricI tried it and it worked for me10:17
ZeBarbuI use pop10:17
ZeBarbuhum... I really don't want loosing data... I don't know if it's 100% compatible between kde3/kde4 versions...10:17
tictricWell, it wasn't very wise to switch to official beta software with such 'important' data without any backup or such10:18
ZeBarbubut if it takes too long to build kontact./kde4, I think i'll failback with this... after making big backups ;)10:18
ZeBarbuas I said, if we don't use it, we won't test/improve it...10:18
tictricyou don't test with critical data10:19
tictricnever, ever10:19
ZeBarbu:)10:20
nixternalapachelogger: it is built with it, apparmor just doesn't allow it to run11:51
apacheloggerno it is not11:51
apacheloggerat least not in the ppa11:51
nixternalsomething changed then11:52
apacheloggerand the apparmor thingy can be worked around11:52
apacheloggerpretty easy actually11:52
nixternalya, I had it working with beta1 just fine11:52
apacheloggernixternal: also in the package?11:52
nixternalbeta2 looks pretty good11:53
nixternalapachelogger: what do you mean by also in the package?11:53
apacheloggerwhether akonadi did work without fix0ring on one's system11:54
nixternalno, I had to do the fix11:54
apacheloggerwell11:54
nixternalI don't think we can do it in the package, the apparmor people need to add an exception iirc11:54
apacheloggerI'll digg into the package later on11:54
apacheloggernixternal: we can11:54
apacheloggeractually.... akonadiserver doesn't open a port anyway, does it?11:55
nixternalsee what Riddell says, as he talked to the apparmor maintainer(s), can't remember what was said though, he told toma and I about it a few weeks back11:55
nixternalnope, just needs access to sql i think11:55
apacheloggerthan we could just bypass it11:56
apacheloggerat least for hardy11:56
apacheloggerI doubt apparmor is getting an SRU for that kind of change11:56
\shseele: bug #243078 should be fixed.. in latest lp:~shermann/leonov/leonov-kde-mdi-style11:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 243078 in leonov "Tab container not drawing borders correctly" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24307811:57
Riddellnixternal: moi?12:09
Riddellnixternal: the issue as I mind is apparmour blocks mysql from writing to files in ~ because normally it only writes to /var/lib/mysql or whatever12:10
apacheloggerRiddell: so we need to bypass it anyway?12:10
Riddellso that needs to be fixed in apparmour profiles (or I don't know if third party packages like akonadi can install apparmour profile files to fix it)12:10
apacheloggeroh well12:11
* apachelogger diggs into apparmor12:11
apacheloggerthough12:11
apacheloggerRiddell: actually we should just bypass apparmor completely12:11
apacheloggersince akonadiserver does only allow local connections we don't need a profie for apparmor12:12
Riddellapachelogger: mm, how?  it would be a bit of a rubbish system security mechanism if apps could just bypass it :)12:12
apacheloggerRiddell: they can12:12
apacheloggerjust ln mysqld mysqldakonadi12:12
Riddellapparmour isn't a firewall, it's about what files processes can write to12:12
apacheloggermake akonadiserver use that binary instead of mysqld and there we go12:12
RiddellI'd be surprised if it was that easy to bypass12:13
apacheloggerask nix ;-)12:13
apacheloggeranyway12:13
apacheloggerthis is a bit of problem either way12:13
apacheloggerlinking mysqldakonadi to mysqld and then allowing mysqldakonadi to write to $HOME is pretty much the same as allowing mysqld to do it, right?12:14
Riddelldoesn't sound any easier than just fixing apparmour for mysqld12:15
apacheloggerand not any more secure :)12:15
apacheloggermysql-server-5.0: /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.mysqld12:17
apacheloggerhm12:18
apacheloggerRiddell: bug 19747612:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 197476 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 "akonadi  does not work with the apparmor rules introduced for /usr/sbin/mysqld on hardy." [Low,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19747612:18
apacheloggerhm12:25
apacheloggerRiddell: considering mysql doesn't get an exception, we probably have to create such a mysqld.akonadi link and ship akonadi with an apparmor profile allowing it to write to homes only12:27
Riddellapachelogger: I guess apparmour is that easy to work around :)12:33
Riddellapachelogger: what's the easiest way to test akonadi?12:34
apacheloggerRiddell: sudo /etc/init.d/apparmor stop12:35
apacheloggerakonadictl start12:36
Riddellif pbuilder fails, does it put the log somewhere?12:56
Hobbseenot unless you specify --log13:05
apacheloggeruhm13:05
apacheloggerI know that question13:05
apacheloggerRiddell: add PKGNAME_LOGFILE=yes to your .pbuilderc13:06
apacheloggerthen a .build file containing the log will always be stored in /var/cache/pbuilder/results no matter whether the build was sucessful or not13:06
Riddellhmm, that seems like the sort of thing that should be on by default13:09
apacheloggervery true :)13:13
* apachelogger testbuilds akonadi13:13
seele\sh: bzr update leonov-kde-mdi-style?13:17
\shseele: bzr merge :)13:19
seelehum, i guess not.  it doesn look like anything changed13:19
seeleah ok13:19
seele\sh: i remade but get this error when i try to run13:22
seelehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23079/13:23
seelebrb13:23
\shseele: ah yes...you need to update to lp:leonov/python-launchpad-bugs ;)13:24
* Hobbsee pokes Riddell or so13:28
Riddellhmm?13:30
HobbseeRiddell: see #debian-qt-kde please :)13:34
gnomefreakoh thanks Hobbsee for reminding me to do something ;)13:37
RiddellHobbsee: which part?13:37
HobbseeRiddell: the last part.13:37
Hobbseegnomefreak: heh :)13:37
HobbseeRiddell: the request for upload13:37
RiddellHobbsee: you want me to upload that taskjuggler diff to ubuntu?13:38
HobbseeRiddell: to debian.13:39
HobbseeRiddell: why would i need you to upload it to ubuntu?13:39
RiddellHobbsee: why would you ask me to upload it to debian?13:39
HobbseeRiddell: because i don't have DD powers, and you do?13:39
Riddellno I don't13:39
Hobbseeoh.  never mind then :)13:39
\shmuah...13:46
apacheloggerRiddell: http://aplg.kollide.net/kubuntu/akonadi/14:09
Riddellnice14:10
apacheloggerpretty self explaining ... mysqld is hardlinked to mysqld-akonadi, for which I added a apparmor profile, and patched akonadi to use that specific binary instead of mysqld14:10
* apachelogger waves at Xand3r14:12
seele\sh: on the General tab, does Tasks ever have more than a few entries?14:23
seele\sh: probably 1 usually, 2 or 3 at most?14:23
\shseele: that depends :) we have reports with more then 25 :)14:24
apacheloggerRiddell: why is kde4pim no uploaded to the ppa yet?14:25
seeleright, but what do you think is typical?14:25
Riddellapachelogger: for hardy?  I expect it just means stdin hasn't got to it yet14:25
apacheloggerhm14:26
\shseele: the default is at least one...the usual is 4 to 5 including external bug tracker tasks14:26
seeleok14:26
* apachelogger creates a looping poke for stdin14:26
seele\sh: is that information pretty important?  or do you just reference it for other reasons?14:27
Riddellapachelogger: looks like he uploaded it "6 minutes ago"14:27
apacheloggeryeah, noticed it right now14:27
\shseele: it's important :)14:27
* apachelogger start killing bugs due to missing kde4pim14:27
* ScottK hands seele Bug #230016 for a really extreme example.14:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 230016 in xmms2 "[intrepid] Rebuild with perl 5.10" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23001614:28
\shScottK: hehe :)14:29
ScottKleonov better not fall over and die on such bugs.14:29
seelehah.. yeah.  \sh if i subscribe to that bug with anything go BOOM?14:31
\shseele: you won't see it now :)14:31
\shseele: because it's done already ;914:31
\shseele: and no...it doesn't make boom then :)14:31
seeleyou can see closed bugs?14:32
\shseele: not now :)14:32
seeleok14:32
Xand3rapachelogger: what is with me? sorry no time left, may be c ya at 22:0014:34
apachelogger:) always busy14:34
\shseele: bug #243080 fixed15:17
seele\sh: branch again?15:18
seeleer, merge15:18
\shseele: just wait15:20
\shseele: bug #243083 fixed too...pushing to lp:~shermann/leonov/leonov-kde-mdi-style now15:21
seeleok15:21
\shtakes some time :)15:21
apacheloggerRiddell: one sponsoring please :) http://aplg.kollide.net/kubuntu/kdesdk/kdesdk_4.0.83-0ubuntu2_to_ubuntu3.debdiff15:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 243083 in leonov "Cannot download attachment" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24308315:23
apachelogger\sh: btw, http://aplg.kollide.net/images/snapshot025.png15:24
apacheloggersplit-view-tabs > split-view :P15:24
\shapachelogger: I know that feature :)15:28
\shapachelogger: but it's not as nice as the feature of terminator ;)15:28
apachelogger\sh: it just needs some love ;-)15:34
nixternaloy vey15:35
nixternaldoes Red Hat do their security releases like Microsoft or what?15:35
nixternalI logged into my work email this morning and there were no less than 20 Red Hat security notices15:36
nixternalI have been here now for almost a month, and today was the first day I received any security notices15:36
nixternalluckily for me, only 4 apply to our appliance15:36
seelehrm15:38
seele\sh: seele@takochi:~/projects/leonov-kde-mdi-style$ bzr merge lp:~shermann/leonov/leonov-kde-mdi-style15:38
seelebzr: ERROR: Working tree "/home/seele/projects/leonov-kde-mdi-style/" has uncommitted changes.15:38
seele\sh: i don't remember changing any files15:38
seeleman pages are as useless as ever15:39
txwikingerseele: run bzr status which will give you the the files that haev been changed15:41
seeleoh, maybe \sh didn't finish his merges?15:45
* \sh is now a bit busy doing real life work ;) rollout of new product version :)15:45
\shseele: I'm finished long ago :)15:45
seeledoes bzr work really differently from svn?  i can't get my head around it15:45
\shseele: if it's not working out, just branch it again...15:45
\shsometimes it's easier15:45
seelesigh.. that didn't work15:49
seelei have IRL work to do too.. i'll work on it later15:49
\shseele: bug #242998 also fixed ;) pushed it to the branch15:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 242998 in leonov "Form labels should be right aligned (KDE4)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24299815:50
ScottKseele: If you don't want to retrain your brain, bzr co works like svn co.15:50
seele\sh: ok.  i'm working on some UI suggestions too.  mockups take a bit of time than just screenshots15:51
\shseele: thx :)15:52
seeleScottK: no.. my problem now is it won't make for some reason15:52
apacheloggerRiddell: do you have a buildlog of broken kde4bindings build at hand?16:18
apacheloggerhm, automoc is missing as build-dep16:21
stdinI think kdelibs5-dev recommends it in intrepid, I moved it to depends for the hardy packages16:22
stdinumm, nope kde4libs 4:4.0.83-0ubuntu3 depends automoc16:24
apacheloggerwe need to get the renamings done, it's giving me the craps16:28
apachelogger3 possibly naming schemes is just too much16:28
apacheloggerhum16:29
apacheloggerindeed it does16:29
apacheloggerstdin: thanks :)16:29
Riddellapachelogger: not to hand no, smoke didn't compile though16:29
apacheloggerRiddell: no problem, I'll start a build, my latop looks pretty bored today ;-)16:30
Riddellapachelogger: I actually took an svn snapshot for intrepid since that fixed pykde16:32
* apachelogger is wondering why the kdebindings people don't do some pre-release testing16:33
Riddelllack of manpower I expect16:34
smarterwe have a big problem with python-kde416:34
smarterit doesn't work on 64bits16:35
Riddellsmarter: just noticed that16:35
smarterI'm trying to fix it16:35
smarter /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/PyKDE4/__init__.py imports "dl" which doesn't exist on 64bits16:35
apacheloggerwell, \sh investigated on that for beta116:36
stdin\sh fixed that iirc16:36
Riddellaah16:36
Riddellso he wasn't just making it all up :)16:36
stdinchanged it to DLFCN16:36
apacheloggerlol16:36
smarterhey it works16:37
* apachelogger checks the beta1 packages in the ppa16:37
smarteri tried dlfcn16:37
\shwhat?16:37
smarterdidn't modules were case sensitives16:37
smarter*didn't know16:37
smarter\sh: did you report it upstream?16:37
stdinit looks for filenames, so I guess on a case-sensitive filesystem, python is case-sensitive too16:37
\shsmarter: it's known by sime...16:37
smarterok16:37
apacheloggerapparently \sh is loosing track of communication16:38
\shsmarter: the fix actually came from him16:38
\shapachelogger: I wasn't connected16:38
apachelogger\sh: we could start communicate through bug reports ;-)16:38
smarteri googled for hours yesterday to find a fix ;)16:38
\shapachelogger: I told you that when I pushed updated packages to the ppa16:38
\shapachelogger: actually you should read changelogs...there is the fix, and the url ;)16:39
smartercool then16:39
apacheloggerI was like... not very motivated for doing any development16:39
smarterplease someone upload the fix, guidance-power-manager needs it16:39
smarterI was going to hardcode the RTLD_things in __init__.py :p16:40
* apachelogger looks at smarter16:40
apacheloggersmarter: become motu and fix it yourself :P16:40
smarterhehe :p16:40
smarterI'd like to16:40
smarterbe back later guys16:40
apachelogger\sh: please upload your latest diff.gz for kde4bindings16:42
Riddellstdin: you uploaded kde4bindings to the ppa, does that include \sh's fix?16:42
stdinRiddell: no, I forgot about that16:43
apachelogger\sh: already got it16:43
apacheloggerRiddell, stdin: I will just merge all changes made to beta1 in the ppa with the current package16:43
Riddellthanks apachelogger16:44
Riddellapachelogger: kdesdk and akonadi uploaded16:45
apacheloggerRiddell: thank you16:45
* stdin checks off kdepim from his list16:48
Riddellyay16:50
stdinas soon as kdeutils builds, then I should be done :)16:51
Riddellyou may be faster than intrepid for that one :)16:51
stdinjust a couple amd64 builds to go now :D16:56
ZeBarbuthanks guys for kdepim packages :)17:16
daskreecHThank the man :)17:16
Riddellhugs to stdin17:18
ZeBarbuho, what a thanks ping-pong! ;)17:19
ZeBarbuI may just make a suggestion: for next kubuntu announce, it may avoid problems if the announce comes after 'important' packages are all availables.17:20
ZeBarbubut, ok, I may have check by myself and wait... too hard! ;)17:20
stdinit did, all the base package were built when the announcement was made17:21
stdinand base is 'important' ;)17:21
daskreecHs/important/essential17:22
stdinlibs + base == essential17:22
ZeBarbuyeap. I don't want to start a troll. I'm really happy with your packages, guys. thanks again!17:23
stdinbesides, people were downloading it before we made the announcement, so it really wouldn't make a difference then17:23
daskreecH:-D17:24
daskreecHare there debug symbols for them?17:24
apachelogger-dbg17:24
ZeBarbuhum,... some people (including me) were waiting the announcement to upgrade, thinking it will be quite functionnal after that (ok, beta soft, but ready to use/test)17:25
yuriyapachelogger: -dbg for neon?17:25
daskreecHDon't think so17:25
stdinZeBarbu: the announcement did say "Some packages are still compiling. Run the above command periodically to check for new additions" :)17:26
daskreecHSeem to remember that being mentioned somewhere17:26
apacheloggeryuriy: for kde417:26
ZeBarbustdin: yes, yes, i know17:26
daskreecHZeBarbu: :-) Hard to complain then :)17:26
ZeBarbui'll check the availability of my needed packages the next time.17:26
daskreecHWhich ones are needed?17:26
apacheloggerstdin: how about building them in secret and then move them to the members?17:27
ZeBarbudaskreecH: it's not really a complain, better a suggestion for next time17:27
apacheloggerdaskreecH: those $USER got installed ;-)17:27
yuriyapachelogger: (sorry, clarified) are there debug symbols now for kde4 nightly in neon or are you all just talking about intrepid packages?17:27
daskreecHZeBarbu: release early release often ^_^17:27
stdinapachelogger: I was building them in my PPA at first17:27
stdinsince saturday actually17:28
ZeBarbuok, thanks for your effort, back to work and my 458 unread mails + all rss streams ;)17:28
daskreecH^A -> Del17:29
apacheloggerstdin: you could have just copied them over, way faster than building them again :)17:34
apacheloggeryuriy: there aren't yet17:34
apacheloggeryuriy: feel free to implement them ;-)17:34
stdinapachelogger: they were copied17:34
apacheloggerstdin: I mean the binaries as well17:35
stdinyep17:35
apacheloggerstdin: what caused the problem then?17:35
stdinwell, it took me until tuesday to get kde4libs to build properly17:36
stdinwell, monday for kde4libs, tuesday for kdebase17:36
apacheloggerI see17:36
apacheloggerstdin: well, next time I am probably around to help :)17:37
stdinthe PPA buildds were also backed-up badly, so that didn't help much17:38
stdinat one time the amd64 queue was around 4517:38
* apachelogger really thinks LP needs some approach where people can contribute processing people17:39
Hobbseestdin: you can get priority boosts, though17:43
apacheloggerRiddell: build went fine, at dh_install for qyoto it broke17:45
Riddellhumph17:46
Riddellapachelogger: building beta 2?17:46
Riddellor svn?17:46
apacheloggerlastest version from launchpad17:46
apacheloggersvn that is17:46
Riddellright17:46
Riddellapachelogger: but enabling the non-pykde packages presumably?17:46
apacheloggerRiddell: of course17:47
Riddellapachelogger: but qyoto didn't compile?17:48
apacheloggerhm17:50
ZeBarbuok, i'm back with first problem :)17:51
apacheloggerRiddell: actually, looking at the cmake output, nothing but pykde built Oo17:51
ZeBarbuSeems akkregator doesn't open feeds17:51
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ZeBarbuIt fetch them ok, but when clicking on it, it only shows the description, not the feed articles themselves.17:51
apacheloggerhum17:52
apacheloggerRiddell: did you comment out all the other stuff?17:52
ZeBarbuat least for me17:52
apacheloggerZanoi: http://bugs.kde.org17:52
apacheloggerZeBarbu: ^17:52
apacheloggerZanoi: sorry17:52
ZeBarbuok17:52
Riddellapachelogger: the current intrepid version has all but python commented out, since smoke didn't compile for me17:53
Riddelland everything else uses smoke17:53
apacheloggerok17:53
* apachelogger compiles again17:53
apacheloggerRiddell: the x_*.cpp files don't get generated, or at least in the wrong directory18:15
apacheloggerstdin: btw, if you have time... backporting the new akonadi package would be cool18:23
apacheloggerthe current one is pretty much useless18:23
apacheloggerstdin: and when are yu applying for MOTU? ;-)18:23
stdinapachelogger: uploaded19:24
stdinand, umm, dunno :p19:24
apacheloggerhaha19:24
* apachelogger hands stdin a cookie19:24
stdinpain killers are better, just getting over a migraine :(19:24
* apachelogger has the most awkward migraine, and the most awkward painkillers for it19:25
apacheloggercan't think properly for 3 days after taking one of these monsters19:25
* daskreech imagines a suppository19:26
apacheloggerhuh, that would be...19:27
apacheloggerah well 24% for kdebindings19:27
smarteris kdebindings so huge?19:31
smartertook 5 minutes to build on my box with only python-kde419:31
apacheloggersmarter: gigantic19:33
apacheloggerI think beta2 actually takes twice as long as beta119:33
apacheloggera lot of new stuff in smoke and ruby19:33
stdintakes 52 mins for the package in the PPA, that's with just about everything except python-kde4 disabled19:34
apacheloggerthe problem is also that kdebindings can't be compiled with more than one jobs19:34
apacheloggeralways breaks for me19:34
Riddellit would be nice if kdebindings was split up19:38
Riddellit's such a troublesome module to package19:39
apacheloggerRiddell: +119:50
apacheloggeroh19:50
apachelogger-.-19:50
apacheloggeryet another break point19:51
apacheloggerRiddell: I think I'll just grab a new SVN snapshot19:59
Riddellhi Arby, new extragear tars are out if you fancy20:03
ArbyRiddell: ok, depends how urgent it is20:04
Arbyno time this weekend20:04
Arbyshould be able to get some done though20:04
apacheloggertalking about weekend20:04
apacheloggeremonkey: I am not sure I can come20:04
apacheloggeremonkey: though, maybe I will not get sucked in a wormhole and be in CH tomorrow evening20:05
Riddellftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/unstable/4.0.83/extragear when you have some time20:05
emonkeyapachelogger, would be cool if you able to attend20:05
* Arby bookmarks20:06
apacheloggeremonkey: I would have to do the laundry... ;-)20:06
Riddelloh maybe Xand3r wants to do extragear :)20:06
Xand3rhi again20:07
* apachelogger thinks some cdbs practise for Xand3r would be quite awesome ;-)20:07
* Xand3r thinks the same20:07
emonkeyapachelogger, I've got holidays, si it doesn't matter on which days you want to attend, on saturday If to go to my little cubs scouts for 3 hours but there aren't any other commitments ath the moment20:07
apacheloggerRiddell: I am giving up, rdale says smoke/ruby is still gonna change a lot within the next days20:07
apacheloggerso taking a snapshot doesn't make much sense either20:08
apacheloggeremonkey: then I will do the laundry tomorrow afternoon and arrive in CH at sat 3 a.m  ;-)20:08
Riddellapachelogger: ah well, thanks for trying20:08
Riddellapachelogger: so just add \sh's patch to it for now?20:09
apacheloggeryes20:09
emonkeyapachelogger, 3am is not the problem, 3pm would be20:09
Riddellapachelogger: want to do that or shall I?20:09
apacheloggeremonkey: ;-)20:09
apacheloggerRiddell: I'll do it, have everything here already20:09
Xand3rapachelogger: so what is to do?20:10
stdinapachelogger: I've already uploaded kde4bindings with the patch to the k-m-kde4 ppa20:12
stdinmostly so kdeutils would build for amd64 without me having to slap it about with a large object20:12
apacheloggerXand3r: package updates ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/unstable/4.0.83/extragear20:12
apacheloggerXand3r: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mailody20:13
apacheloggeryou get the latest sources20:13
apacheloggerXand3r: dget https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/mailody/0.5.0-4/+files/mailody_0.5.0-4.dsc20:14
apacheloggerdpkg-source -x *dsc20:14
apacheloggerget the new tarball20:14
apacheloggerunpack the tarball20:14
apacheloggercopy the debian directory form the old folder to the new one20:14
apacheloggeradd a changelog entry, check the packaging for up-to-dateness20:14
apacheloggerthen you create a debdiff - debidff OLD.dsc NEW.dsc20:15
apachelogger debdiff OLD.dsc NEW.dsc > deb.diff20:15
apacheloggeractually20:15
Xand3rapachelogger: not so fast please20:15
apacheloggerXand3r: then you upload/paste the file somewhere and ask Riddell to sponsor the upload20:15
Xand3rkk20:15
apacheloggerXand3r: the nice thing about IRC is I can be that fast while you can read it slowly ;-)20:15
stdinonce you get the hang of it, you'll be able to do it as fast as apachelogger types :P20:16
apacheloggerhehe20:16
stdinhmm, has kopete-cryptography still not been uploaded anywhere?20:16
apacheloggerI did not20:18
Xand3rapachelogger: after the "dpkg-source -x *dsc" there is only one tar20:21
Arbystdin: I started trying to build 4.0.80 and got stuck20:21
Arbyhaven't had time to unpick it yet20:21
apacheloggerXand3r: dpkg-source extracts the tarball and applies the diff.gz20:21
apacheloggeri.e. you get a source directory with debian subdirectory right away20:21
stdinArby: if you want a hand, let me know. I packaged it back pre-4.020:21
Arbystdin: it was failing due to lack of kdepim20:22
Arbywhich I couldn't get to install in my chroot20:22
Arbyprobably a broken chroot but not had time to work it out yet20:22
Xand3rapachelogger: what means "applies" the diff20:22
jeroen-do I need to be here for qurstions about KDE 4.1 b2?20:23
stdinI know there was a reason it needed kdepim, but I can't remember now20:23
smarterXand3r: dpkg-source is done automatically if you have the right keys ("apt-get install debian-keyring"  has most of them)20:23
apacheloggerXand3r: less *diff.gz20:23
stdinjeroen-: #kubuntu-kde4 is probably a better place20:24
smarterXand3r: *automatically by dget20:24
apacheloggerXand3r: as I said earlier the .orig.tar.gz shouldn't be changed while package (i.e. files outside of debian/) ... the reason for this is that one of the source package files diff.gz is actually a diff from the _original tarball_ to your source tree with debian/20:24
jeroen-stdin: thanks20:24
apacheloggerXand3r: ultimately the diff.gz only includes your debian/ .... and by apply I mean, that the diff is applied to the original source tree, so when you cd into the source directory there will be a debian/ directory right away20:26
apacheloggerXand3r: dpkg-source -x is pretty much the opposite of debuild -S -sa20:26
Xand3ropposite? how i have to understand this in that contxt?20:27
apacheloggerXand3r: gegenteil20:27
Xand3ri know20:28
apacheloggermeh20:28
Xand3rypu dont understand my question -.-20:28
apacheloggerwell20:29
apacheloggerthat is really bad20:29
apacheloggerbecause I don't either :P20:29
Xand3r^^20:29
Xand3rwait, thinking is today verry difficult20:30
apacheloggerRiddell: I also included .install updates and two new packages I introduced for beta1... so we don't have to redo this stuff once it is building properly again http://aplg.kollide.net/kubuntu/kde4bindings/kde4bindings_4.0.83+svn823405-0ubuntu6_to_ubuntu7.debdiff20:30
Xand3rfirst of all i need somethink to drink, may be after it it will be better, maybe20:31
Riddellapachelogger: groovy, uploading20:43
ArbyRiddell: having confusion with version numbers. previously kcoloredit was 4.0.80. now it's 1.5.020:56
ArbyI don't get it20:57
ArbyI'm guessing 1.5.0 is an upstream number20:57
Arbyam I allowed to just rename it to 4.0.83 or is that bad?20:57
RiddellArby: yeah, upstream screwed up21:00
Arbyoh, I assumed it was me :)21:00
RiddellArby: change the numbers to match what they were before21:00
Arbycool thanks21:00
yuriyfound all of 1 person here running Kubuntu21:12
ArbyRiddell: kcoloredit done, files in the usual place under extragear4.0.8321:15
Xand3rRiddell: i work now on guidance-power-manager, i that ok?21:17
Xand3r*is21:17
ArbyRiddell: kfax also done, files in same place21:36
smarterXand3r: I've done guidance-power-manager21:52
smarterjust waiting for kde4bindings build to finish21:53
smarterXand3r: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/guidance/powermanager-ubuntu21:53
Xand3rsmarter: ok, late but, not much done21:54
smarterhmm? what is late?21:55
Xand3rsmarter: that you say now that it is already build21:55
Xand3rbut it doesnt mater21:56
smarteryou could have checked code.launchpad.net21:56
Xand3rok noticed for the next time21:56
Riddellsmarter: there's a new version21:59
RiddellXand3r: go ahead on guidance-power-manager21:59
Xand3rRiddell: ?21:59
Xand3rsmarter: already did it or?22:00
RiddellXand3r: smarter did an older version22:00
Riddellthis is a new version so it could do with the package being updated22:00
smarterRiddell: new version?22:00
Xand3rok than i work now on the extrager version22:00
* smarter wasn't aware22:00
Xand3r*then22:01
Riddellsmarter: it's being released along with kde releases as part of extragear ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/unstable/4.0.83/extragear22:01
Riddellsmarter: I doubt anything has changed except translations22:01
smarterI'll update then22:01
Xand3ryou?22:01
smarterI'll change the get-orig-svn target and update changelog entry22:01
RiddellXand3r: best pick another one then22:01
Xand3rheadache22:02
Xand3rthis was my third chois^^22:02
smarterRiddell: no update to gpm since three weeks22:02
smarterI'll just change the version to match kde4 version22:03
mitsarionashi... could someone tell me when will there be a new kubuntu intrepid iso available? on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/all/all it says it's rebuilding...22:05
Xand3rRiddell: what would be a easy package, where is no one working on?22:06
RiddellXand3r: kiconedit?22:07
Xand3rok i try it22:07
Xand3rbut i think i need help later22:07
Riddelljust ask here22:08
Xand3rthx22:08
smarterwhat else needs packaging in extragear?22:08
smarterRiddell: rev6 of gpm pushed, please upload when kde4bindings has finished bindings22:08
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Xand3ris there an older version of kiconedit, cause i want to copy the copyright file22:13
Xand3rif there are cpp with different copyright holder, is it needed that i tell in the copyright in wich file who has the copyright?22:16
mitsarionasso doesn't anyone know when/where i could get an intrepid iso? :/22:17
smarterXand3r: yes22:20
Xand3rsmarter: -.- i hate this work22:22
Xand3rsmarter: how it has to look like in the copyrighte file?22:24
smarterlook at my kde4-style-bespin package for example22:24
smarteror even my guidance-power-manager package22:24
smarterbespin is maintained in bzr at code.lp.net too22:24
Xand3rok thx22:25
Xand3rhi i get a cmakeerror22:32
Xand3rhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23205/22:32
Xand3rmaybe not all deps are listed22:32
Xand3ri onli set on cdbs and cmake22:33
Xand3rwhere i can get infos a bout the depends?22:33
nixternalyou need the latest cmake (2.6)22:36
smarterXand3r:   ERROR: Could not find KDE4 kde4-config22:37
Xand3ri have cmake 2.622:38
nixternalcuz cmake isn't working properly22:38
nixternalXand3r: do you have cmake from the ~kubuntu-members-kde4 repo?22:38
smarterthis package needs kdelibs5-dev22:38
Xand3rsmarter: i added now kdelibs5-dev, maybe, but i have no clue22:38
smarterno clue of what?22:38
Xand3rof all^^, i am a beginner22:39
nixternalahh, I didn't see that FindeKDE4.cmake error22:39
smarterjust look at what cmake says22:39
smartereven if cmake 2.6 is a bit too verbose imho22:39
Xand3rbut i dont know how i can fix the problem22:40
* nixternal starts heading to the train22:40
smarterRiddell: I updated guidance-power-manager(revision 7) with a debian/watch and a get-orig-source to get the tarball from kde FTP with the translations22:40
smarterXand3r: it looks for kde4-config22:40
Xand3ryes22:40
smarterso it means that you must build-deps on the package where this file is located22:40
smarterthis package is kdelibs-bin22:40
Xand3r-bin?22:41
smarterbut if it needs kde4, it probably needs the headers and stuff22:41
Xand3rnot dev22:41
smarterso you build deps on kdelibs5-dev, which depends on kdelibs-bin22:41
smarterand cmake is happy with his kde4-config and things can be built22:41
Xand3rsmarter: kdelibs or kdekibs5?22:42
smarterkdelibs5-dev22:42
smarterwhich depends on kdelibs-bin22:42
smarterthere's no kdelibs-dev22:43
smarterand kdelibs4-dev is kde322:43
smarter(yes, it's a bit confusing)22:43
Xand3rah ok, i have to list kdelibs-bin in the depends?22:43
smarterno22:44
smarterkdelibs5-dev22:44
Xand3rok22:44
smartersince kdelibs5-dev depends on kdelibs-bin, it will be automatically installed with it22:44
Xand3rok installed will this understand the buildserver?22:44
smarterhmm?22:45
smarteryou mean, will the buildserver installs -bin?22:45
smarterthe answer is yes22:45
Xand3rok22:45
smarterdependencies are here for a reason22:45
smarterpackages listed under Depends: in apt-cache name-of-the-package are always installed22:46
Xand3rhas this package to be finished to day?22:49
smarterif you mean, "today", no it can wait22:49
Xand3ri have problems with pbuilder Err http://archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main kdelibs5-data 4:4.0.80-0ubuntu822:50
Xand3r404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.31 80]22:50
Xand3rbut i have to know if all depends are solved22:50
smarterupdate your pbuilder22:51
Xand3rclear22:51
Xand3rok i use the time fore the other files22:53
Xand3rsmarter: for the changelog, wihch lp number i have to use? and which version i have to take? the version of kde?22:54
Xand3rOR WAT?22:54
smarterXand3r: version: 4:4.0.83-0ubuntu122:55
Xand3r":"?22:55
smarterI don't think it's worth filling a bug report on lp for it22:55
smarter: = epoch22:55
Xand3repoch?22:56
smartershould be explained in the debian policy22:56
Xand3rkk22:56
smarteror debian new maintainer guide22:56
Xand3ri will find it22:56
smarterfor example: 9999900000-0ubuntu1 << 1:0.1-0ubuntu122:56
Xand3rdont got it22:57
smarterimagine your packaging a software, with version number 450024 (because it's the svn revision or whatever)22:58
smarterand then the developers release a 1.022:58
smarterif you change version number to 1.0, apt-get won't know that it's a new versionb22:58
smarter*version22:59
smarterbut if you change version to 1:1.0 apt-get will update the package, cause the version number will be bigger22:59
smarterif there's no epoch, 0 is assumed22:59
smarterand 0:450024 << 1:1.022:59
Xand3rgot it23:00
smarter\o/23:00
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Xand3ronly the copyright is left23:07
Xand3ris my kiconedit the same like http://w1.1358.telia.com/~u135800018/prog.html#KICONEDIT23:09
seele\sh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23210/23:25
seele\sh: i remerged bugs and make sure there was a link.  i dunno how to resolve the problem23:25
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daskreechWoah!23:38
daskreechnvidia really is going to be the anchor23:38
daskreechATI cards now ship with Tux on the box?23:38
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