[12:13] <hubuntu> pep
[12:13] <pep> hoi
[12:13] <hubuntu> heard anything from the DIY website LP team?
[12:13] <hubuntu> done with your exams?
[12:13] <pep> no I haven't! I also stayed in #lp in case that openID guy contacted me
[12:13] <pep> but yeah, I was going to come to that
[12:14] <pep> I ust turned my pc on again :D
[12:14] <pep> just*
[12:14] <pep> I was offline for about 4 days :)
[12:14] <pep> or a little more
[12:14] <hubuntu> I have been busy at work
[12:15] <hubuntu> and having some quality time wth the fam
[12:15] <hubuntu> But I had some time today, so here I am
[12:15] <hubuntu> I have been analyzing the way spreadfirefox is buit
[12:15] <hubuntu> built
[12:16] <hubuntu> and it would make sense to make something like that, but be rather careful with what we add there and what not
[12:16] <hubuntu> we don't want u w c all over again, right? We want a place where to get information about what is happening in the Ubuntu community worldwide
[12:17] <pep> u w c?
[12:17] <hubuntu> w u c (wiki dot ubuntu dot com)
[12:18] <hubuntu> there is a lot going on there already.. the best way would be for us to pull it out of there and organize it
[12:19] <pep> mhh.. spreadfirefox you say...
[12:19] <pep> I don't see what you mean with "we don't want u w c all over again, right?"
[12:20] <hubuntu> there is a lot going on in the wiki
[12:20] <pep> we don't want to make the diy marketing page again?
[12:20] <hubuntu> let me make some coffee and reformulate that.. one sec
[12:20] <pep> hehe np
[12:20] <pep> I am catching up with my tons of emails anyway
[12:27] <pep> btw... we still haven't got the SU mailing list activated
[12:35] <hubuntu> I know, it is still pending approval
[12:35] <hubuntu> it should have been activated already
[12:36] <hubuntu> I go to #lp to ask
[12:37] <hubuntu> pep, SUGUI may be closer to reality than we thought
[12:37] <hubuntu> leonov.tv
[12:37] <hubuntu> https://launchpad.net/leonov/
[12:37] <pep> ah yeah
[12:37] <pep> I am reading
[12:37] <pep> how nice
[12:39] <pep> that's really god
[12:39] <pep> good
[12:39] <hubuntu> I was just talking to meisok, and he got really excited
[12:39] <pep> yeah, I believe :)
[12:52] <hubuntu> pep se resolvió ;)
[12:53] <pep> lo veo :)
[12:54] <hubuntu> I guess we will have by tomorrow
[12:54] <hubuntu> with that up we can continue the consolidation of the group and get down and dirty
[12:55] <hubuntu> with some real implementation
[12:55] <hubuntu> pep, do you think that contacting the people behind spreadfirefox is a good idea?
[12:55] <hubuntu> I am interested in their work flow, more than in the implementation itself
[12:56] <pep> mhh...
[12:56] <pep> I'm not sure
[12:56] <pep> but the list seems active, hang I'll test...
[12:56] <hubuntu> you are right
[12:56] <hubuntu> he did approve it ;)
[12:57] <hubuntu> I just put it as the contact list for the team
[12:57] <pep> Ok, works
[12:59] <hubuntu> yes, I just added myself to it
[13:02] <hubuntu> ok... pep when is your last exam?
[13:02] <pep> I have passed it on monday :)
[13:03] <pep> so after two days of high alcohol percentage in my blood I am now back :D
[13:03] <pep> I will have a couple of hours per day now...
[13:03] <pep> So I am catching up on all emails and projects I left out during exams...
[13:04] <hubuntu> fantastic!
[13:04] <hubuntu> congrats mate
[13:05] <hubuntu> let make this our "SoC", without pay
[13:05] <hubuntu> we'll just get the glory ;)
[13:06] <hubuntu> I',m leaving for vacation for 3 weeks at some point in July 
[13:06] <pep> ah yeah
[13:06] <hubuntu> but I plan to commit 2-3 hours daily to this project
[13:06] <hubuntu> before and after vacations
[13:06] <pep> I will also have a week where old friends come around, but they are all geeks so not a problem contributing some time ;)
[13:06] <pep> yeah, that's abot the time I will have too, always after 5 o'clock my time though...
[13:07] <hubuntu> what your timezone?
[13:07] <hubuntu> you are in France right?
[13:08] <pep> yes, belgium
[13:09] <pep> samt Time zone
[13:09] <pep> same
[13:09] <hubuntu> I'm most likely going to Antwerpen
[13:09] <hubuntu> I'm catching the train through Europe ;)
[13:10] <hubuntu> I'll stay in this time zone, but no contribs when I'm travelling
[13:11] <pep> hehe
[13:11] <pep> np :)
[13:11] <pep> you're going to antwerp to vacation? or jsut travelling  through?
[13:14] <hubuntu> visiting friends
[13:14] <hubuntu> staying there for some days I guess
[13:14] <pep> ah yeah, nice
[13:14] <pep> antwerp is nice
[13:15] <hubuntu> Never been there, but I'm looking forward to it
[13:15] <hubuntu> has Belgium got a consolidated government now or are they still not getting along?
[13:15] <pep> oh I don't know -_-
[13:16] <pep> nah, acutally it has apparently.. but well.. it's a little weird, people just all laugh at this..
[13:16] <pep> it has a government, but nobody's getting along with anyone.
[13:29] <hubuntu> strange... 
[13:51] <hubuntu> pep, shall we send an email to the list asking people to "build" the materials list?
[13:53] <pep> yes, just a sec....
[13:54] <pep> first thing to do, is clearly define everything we want SU to do in the end.
[13:54] <hubuntu> I am going to reorganize the material list following your organizatory guidelines
[13:54] <pep> so that we have a finished list
[13:54] <hubuntu> I think we will finally shape it in the end.
[13:55] <pep> we need to treat the actual diy part of SU (as Flannel calls it ;-) separately... you want to work on that first eys?
[13:55] <pep> yes*
[13:56] <hubuntu> In the nearest future SU will have (be a repository for): Marketing material/Artwork/Presentations
[13:57] <hubuntu> In longer term: be THE  place for communication of events and a meeting point for people wanting to spread ubuntu (marketeers)
[13:57] <pep> yes, marketing idea pool
[13:57] <hubuntu> Sort of the brain of the marketing team
[13:57] <pep> jupp, fine
[13:58] <hubuntu> brainstorm will take care of picking up marketing ideas, and we will evolve them and mature them into SU
[13:58] <pep> ok
[13:58] <hubuntu> but that's *very* long-term
[13:58] <pep> so we'll be concentrating on diy SU website now.
[13:58] <hubuntu> short term the repository, IOW DIY website
[13:58] <hubuntu> yes
[13:59] <hubuntu> we may need to clarify that in our wiki project page and LP
[13:59] <pep> right, I just want to make clear what short term goal actually is
[13:59] <pep> to keep us from staying static
[13:59] <pep> with a lot of ideas
[14:00] <hubuntu> good.. can you summarize it and write something explaining this in LP and the wiki?
[14:03] <pep> in LP?
[14:03] <pep> where in lp?
[14:03] <pep> in the resentation?
[14:04] <pep> p+
[14:08] <hubuntu> yes, in the intro of the team... We should make it short
[14:10] <pep> ok... 
[14:10] <pep> Yes, Ok. I'm going to get a coffee first, then i'll do that and analyze jenda's diy site diagram once again...
[14:12] <hubuntu> ;)
[14:12] <hubuntu> I just went for a coffee myself
[14:13] <pep> yeah, my brain is doing high jup inside my head today
[14:13] <pep> jump*
[14:19] <hubuntu> pep, drupal 5 or 6?
[14:20] <pep> I'd go for the newest one...
[14:20] <pep> any inconvenient?
[14:31] <hubuntu> I don't know really... Ubuntu sites normally use 5 and I'm used to it
[14:31] <hubuntu> but 6 brings a lot of improvements (OpenID better integrated)
[14:31] <pep> mhh yeah.. hnestly I'm sure ubuntu sites will change in the near future...
[14:31] <hubuntu> but has less modules since it is relatively new and people (i for one) is happy with 5
[14:32] <pep> I see
[14:32] <hubuntu> we should probably talk to the Ubuntu.com folks
[14:32] <pep> well it is as you wish, I am not familiar with drupal yet
[14:32] <pep> I won't be of much help there, I don't really use it in my sites, but the new ubuntu-be site will
[14:38] <hubuntu> YEah I was looking at the u-be site, it uses 4 right now doesn't it?
[14:40] <hubuntu> ok, a webmaster for ubuntu.com just told me that there are no plans for moving towards Drupal 6 at this stage
[14:40] <pep> no
[14:40] <pep> It uses cms made simple =D
[14:40] <pep> ok, then.
[14:42] <pep> for the sake of being clearer, I am overthinking our wiki organisation a little bit... maybe separating what is diy.SU and the rest of SU, and also making space for short term action, so that we move along...
[14:42] <pep> also, hubuntu: who contacted former diy website people?
[14:43] <hubuntu> didn't you?
[14:43] <pep> because in LP, the SU project and diy website are still not under our assignement, and I'd really like to have some comments from jenda or others about changing the drivers for this project
[14:43] <hubuntu> Flannel probably.. honestly I do not remember, but I remember someone saying they did
[14:43] <pep> well actually no, because Flannel was in talk witht them
[14:43] <pep> ok
[14:43] <pep> well I'll see on that  today, as I have time.
[14:44] <hubuntu> :)
[14:44] <hubuntu> I'm talking to the ubuntu webmasters and arranging our taking over the world ;)
[14:45] <pep> do so, "brain" ;)
[14:51] <pep> We want the page to be easy to understand even to people with disabilities or a fair percentage of alcohol in their blood.
[14:51] <pep> I like this description :)
[14:52] <hubuntu> no discrimination is good ;)
[14:53] <hubuntu> but it could be misunderstood
[14:53] <pep> haha
[14:53] <pep> it's an old pag from the wiki
[14:54] <pep> hubuntu: are we sticking to the "see it, try it, get it, ship it, spread it" concept? I like it...
[14:57] <hubuntu> I see it more like: Spread it!
[14:58] <hubuntu> it should be almost intuitive too see it, try it, get it, ship it...
[14:58] <pep> Ok... I see your still more on *our* base idea than along with Flannel's idea ;)
[14:59] <pep> but conerning the diy.SU you're right
[14:59] <pep> concerning the frontend of spreadubuntu.com, spread it should have more importance, but this is actually not far from what I think: http://www.novarata.net/1/Mockup3.png
[15:03] <hubuntu> Flannel's idea fits better into what the ubuntu-website team (will be formed soon) will work with
[15:04] <hubuntu> SpreadUbuntu is for spreading, the intro page should not be there IMO
[15:05] <pep`> back
[17:10] <Flannel> What on earth is the ubuntu-website team?
[17:14] <pep> o.O
[17:15] <pep> Flannel: no idea... what do you mean? ubuntu.com?
[17:15] <pep> ah I see
[17:16] <pep> I suppose they develop the ubuntu site... : ) https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-website