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toorimaCalebrown: try installing from the alternate cd, and with it load the proper video driver before you start x00:00
CalebrownThank you, I'll try that right now.00:00
tgm4883toorima, dist-upgrades are required when new packages are required to be installed (such as the ssh blacklist package).  dist-upgrade does not upgrade you to the next version of Ubuntu00:14
toorimatgm4883: ok thx, just wanted to check before i upgraded, dont want to bork my box00:16
GreggNSo far, I'm unable to get sound from my tv tuner pchdtv.01:35
tgm4883_laptopGreggN, analog or digital?01:38
GreggNanalog, NTSC, us-cable01:40
tgm4883_laptopyea, thats a common analog software encoder problem01:40
GreggNguess I'll just email the hardware support@pchdtv.com01:41
tgm4883_laptopnah, it's not that hard to figure out01:41
tgm4883_laptopsec01:41
GreggNmy googling hasn't resulted in anything that works yet - waiting for your advice...01:41
tgm4883_laptopGreggN, which card do you have?01:44
GreggNI've got the 550001:44
tgm4883_laptopok01:46
tgm4883_laptopsec01:46
tgm4883_laptopI forget, is there an audio out on that card?01:46
GreggNYes - there is an audio out.  The eeprom says that it is turned on - but there's no audio on the jack.01:47
tgm4883_laptopwhat do you have plugged into the audio out?01:47
GreggNI've tried my ear buds - but nothing.  Tried hooking it to the line-in of the sound card - but nothing.  Hooked my mp3 player into the line-in - and was able to listen to my podcasts.01:48
tgm4883_laptophmm01:49
tgm4883_laptopis it muted in alsamixer?01:49
GreggNcan't seem to find it in alsamixer or xfce4-mixer  - what am I looking for?01:50
tgm4883_laptophmm, not entirely sure, I don't have mine plugged in anymore01:51
tgm4883_laptopyou would probably have to switch devices in alsamixer though01:51
tgm4883_laptophonestly, i only ever used the digital portion of the card.  IMHO, Software encoders are not a viable solutiono01:53
GreggNare you saying that I should've bought a different card to work with analog cable television?01:55
tgm4883_laptopI'm saying that if you bought that card to exclusively watch analog tv, then you bought a poor card for the job.  If you bought a card for digital TV, you bought a good card.  If you bought a card that you wanted to be able to watch either then you could have bought a better card01:57
tgm4883_laptopwith that being said, that card is a good card, but not if you want to do analog tv (no software encoder is good)01:58
GreggNI've bought a variety of cards over the past few years.  Was hoping that this one would handle analog now, and be ready for digital when we're forced into that option.01:59
tgm4883_laptopdo you have cable or broadcast?01:59
tgm4883_laptopbroadcast being antenna02:00
GreggNComcast cable - because broadcast doesn't work well without a much bigger antenna.02:00
tgm4883_laptopactually digital broadcast works pretty well02:00
GreggNdigital broadcast doesn't work here.  I've tried a variety of tuners and a variety of rabbit-ears-type antennas02:01
tgm4883_laptopand since you have cable, you have until 2012.  So i'd return the card if you can and get either a true analog card like the pvr-150/500 (should be cheap, they are end of life now) or get a hybrid card like the hvr-1600 or 1800.  Warning on those though that they don't work very well yet02:02
tgm4883_laptopif you are so inclined to keep trying what you have now, i'd email the manu02:02
GreggNThanks for the advice.  Time to search eBay for a pvr-500.  I'll hold onto the pchdtv . . . maybe I'll be able to use it after I buy an outdoor antenna for digital.02:03
tgm4883_laptopyou could also see what digital channels you get over your cable02:04
tgm4883_laptopyou should at least get the locals02:04
GreggNI'll try scanning the cable, but we only subscribe to the analog package since it is about $14 per month instead of $54.02:05
tgm4883_laptopyea I think I got my digital channels while I had the basic package with comcast02:08
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orangepeelbeefanyone know how to stop mythfrontend from starting up every time i log into kde4 ?02:54
MythbuntuGuest11Hello, I just upgraded my video card on my Mythbuntu machine.  I've got the drivers working with the new card and everything I do on the Ubuntu desktop looks fine, but when MythTV loads the menus are all scrambled.  Any suggestions?03:54
stoneymonsterany ideas when trunk builds might be available? or does anyone know how to build trunk from source for mythbuntu without screwing up packaging? trying to get hdrpvr support working.....04:11
Nostahlany of you guys ever hear of a express card slot to usb cable?04:29
Nostahli know they have it for pcmcia to usb04:29
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Nostahlheyey guys05:42
Nostahlwhat format does myth tv use for saving music you rip05:42
Nostahlie does it make a separate folder for each band05:42
Nostahlor does it do it by album names05:43
Nostahltrying to figure if all the stuff i've started ripping already will pass over well to my new myth box05:43
quentusrexIs anyone aware of the status of audio over hdmi?08:56
quentusrexI am very interested in this feature and would be willing to help develop if needed.08:56
hadsIt's not really a feature that needs developing, if your hardware does it it should just work.08:59
quentusrexhads, do you know what hardware is able to do it?09:00
quentusrexI can't find anything that has a hardware list with this feature...09:00
quentusrexJust lots of people saying that they can't get it to work...09:00
hadsThe HDMI output in your video card or where ever it is needs to have audio piped into it.09:01
hadsWhich will depend on your video card and sound card.09:02
quentusrexI'd like to use integrated video with the integrated hdmi ports09:02
quentusrexwould this be possible?09:02
quentusrexwould it depend on the graphics chipset?09:02
hadsIt will depend on your motherboard I guess.09:03
quentusrexWhat is the right question to ask to find out if a particular mother board works for audio over hdmi? or to find a list of motherboards that do work?09:04
hadsI don't know, I don't use HDMI output09:05
famicomRozza debian12:09
MigzuHay13:58
MigzuI got some problems with new mythtv-update13:59
MigzuI apt-get upgraded13:59
MigzuBut there's something wrong with "myth-database"-package13:59
MigzuIt gives me this error14:00
Migzu"Syntax error at -e line 5, near "¤db = DBI->connect('"14:00
MigzuAnd the other stuff depends on myth-database14:00
MigzuSo im kinda screwed up14:01
MigzuAny fixes?14:01
calebbrownHello, I just set up a dedicated mythbuntu backend, and the setup went great (detected my cards, configured SchedulesDirect etc.). When I point a front end at the IP address of the backend, it connects and looks like it's going to work until I hit something like Watch TV.  Then it askes if I'm sure my backend is turned on and the IP is correct (and I know it is).  Any ideas?14:25
foxbuntucalebbrown, did you tell your dedicated backend that it would need to allow additional MythTV systems?14:59
calebbrownI did yes, I confirmed remote connections.  Is there a way to test these connections man make sure they are open and responding?15:00
foxbuntuif not open MCC and you can enabled it from the services, (the MySQL service) then just reboot the box (the backend) and your frontend as long as it has the correct ip should work after you restart it or restart X (ctrl + bkspc)15:00
foxbuntucalebbrown, yea...I dont recall the ports off the top of my head15:00
foxbuntucalebbrown, in the backend did you give it a private network address or leave the default of 127.0.0.1?15:01
calebbrownI tried both, giving it my local 192.168.1.2 as well as localhost.15:01
calebbrownfoxbuntu, thank you very much..I'll go ahead and try to make sure the remote connections are working.  I figured it was, since the front end did allow me to login (I assumed this meant the mysql password was correct)15:04
gregLFrom what i hear trunk is somewhat stable now..I would like to use my hdpvr ,but you need trunk to do that...Is there any time line to resume weekly trunk builds?15:54
lagayes15:55
lagawhen trunk is more stable ;)15:55
lagabut if there's sufficient demand...15:55
stoneymonsterconsider this a second request ;) ;)15:56
gregLok Thanks.. Yeah I have tried a few times to compile my own but seem to run into errors..15:56
lagaalright, two requests are enough. when do you need it?15:58
stoneymonstersometime in the next week would be nice, but this is free software so I'll take what I can get15:59
gregLasap for me :)16:00
lagaheh16:00
lagaalright16:00
lagatonight or tomorrow (GTM+2)16:00
stoneymonsterfantastic16:01
jphillipdo any of you guys know what kind of cpu you need for hdpvr playback?16:01
stoneymonsterhuge16:01
jphillipI'm interested if my x2 5000+ can handle it16:01
stoneymonsterdepends on the birate of the recordins16:01
stoneymonsterand ffmpeg only can use one core for decoding, which makes matters worse16:01
stoneymonsteryou can buy coreavc and patch myth to use it I hear to solve that, but it's less than ideal16:01
jphillipya I've heard that too16:02
stoneymonstermy core 2 duo 6600 (2.2ghz) struggles to play back 10mbit recordings at 1280x72016:02
lagasuperm1: you have been messing with coreavc. should i add that patch to the trunk builds16:02
superm1not yet16:02
lagasad.16:02
superm1it doesnt build on amd64 correctly16:02
lagamaybe create a hdpvr PPA16:02
superm1so i'd rather not introduce it until thats fixed right16:02
lagawell, the directshow server patch will build?!16:02
superm1i'll mess with it after work tonight16:02
lagafor *myth*16:03
lagaalright16:03
superm1it should16:03
superm1i dont know about trunk for sure16:03
lagathen i'll create a new mythtv-hdpvr team i guess.. since i don't want to pollute the normal trunk builds..16:03
lagaOTOH, not sure if i want to spend that much time on something that'll be merged into -fixes sooner or later. so the directshow server patch better be easy to integrate ;)16:05
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Kip|WorkI'm trying to install Mythbuntu 8.04 on an AthlonXP system with 1GB Ram, 120GB HDD just to get it up and running, but the installation never makes it beyond 5% in the partitioning phase.  It has done this with 3 harddrives, 3 different CD burns, 2 distros of 8.04, and others verify similar problems here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=445244     Help?18:00
sebrockKip|Work, try the alternative install CD18:36
Kip|WorkAlready tried it18:38
Kip|WorkI'm able to boot into live environment after a healthy train of DRDY ERR listings, but incapable of getting beyond paritioning18:39
Tophatwhat would be the best way for me to setup a media center?  I want to buy a video card  that i can input my cable, record, and them output to my TV.  preferabbly with HD.  is this possible?19:23
jphillipTophat your best bet is to do seperate input and output cards19:32
Tophatany suggestions?19:32
jphilliphauppauge pvr350 can do both, but can really only do mpeg2 output well19:32
jphillipdepends what you want to capture19:32
jphillipand where you live19:32
jphillip(what signals you can get)19:32
TophatNTSC19:34
Tophatjphillip - Thanks mate! ill be looking around and try to find some more stuff before i make it final. thanks again!19:34
scanthow much setup is involved after MythBuntu is installed?19:40
lagasuperm1: depends.19:46
lagaerr, scant19:46
scantlaga: I've been a Knoppmyth user, but KnoppMyth still doesn't have a distro with 0.21 and the maintainer is pretty egotistical, the people in #knoppmyth say there's more setup involved with MythBuntu, but from reading the doc pdf, I'm not sure if that statement is true19:50
jphillipas long as you know how to setup your hardware in mythtv itself (and don't have any strange hardware) then it should be fairly easy to setup19:53
scantok19:54
Ace2016_Hi all20:00
Ace2016_why does mythbuntu not include lm-sensors so you can keep an eye on temps by default/20:01
Ace2016_?20:01
jphillipAce2016_ just install it20:02
Ace2016_i have no net connection to it :(20:03
jphillipwhen you do you can install it from apt or synaptec20:03
DrMossHi.  I'm back.  I never got an answer the other night, but I now think I understand a bit more.20:12
DrMossI tried to install Mythbuntu20:12
DrMossI've since tried to install MythDora5 and also Ubuntu.20:12
DrMossSame problems...20:13
DrMossI think it comes down to having a SATA drive.20:13
Ace2016_sata drives work fine for me on 2 systems20:13
DrMossHmmm.  I get the 'Busybox v1.1.3 error.  There's a few forums about it, but it's got me stumped.20:14
Ace2016_have you written down the exact error?20:15
DrMossI had to change the boot options... ie delete "quiet..." and add "add_generic_ide", then it will install20:15
DrMossBut eventually, upon reboot,...20:15
DrMossI get the Mythbuntu logo and the waiting bar20:15
DrMossbut it will hang on that for say 3 mins or so and then back to a busybox and initramfs prompt.20:15
DrMossSo, if I were to try and problem solve, I would ask, what did 'all_generic_ide' do to let me install??? and now that it's installed,...20:17
Ace2016_what motherboard is it?20:17
DrMossAsus M3N78emh hdmi.20:17
DrMossIt's a new model.20:17
DrMoss...and now that it's installed,...what do I modify some where (as I have a prompt) to get Mythbuntu to load on reboot?20:18
Ace2016_that seems to be a very troublesome motherboard if you're going to put linux on it20:21
DrMossHmmm.  I thought Asus boards were quite good.  Is there some webforum or something that you've got your info from? (so I can have a look)?20:22
Ace2016_the board is good, but its very new, linux support is slightly behind on it, there is a thread about it in the forums20:23
DrMossOk - any chance you can let me know the exact forum link?20:23
Ace2016_here you go http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79262920:24
DrMossThanks Ace.  Holy crap - I guess it's too new!  (I've got everything already working under Windoze (i'm a newbie to Linux), but even under Windozzz their new Bios update has issues and stops my Pci slots working properly.  I'll keep a close eye on that forum.  BTW, where I thought I was going was somewhere being described in this forum: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/22088520:32
kiu112hi, anybody got write permission on the "get involved" page ? http://mythbuntu.org/gettinginvolved ---> s/#ubuntu-mythtv-tv/#ubuntu-mythtv/21:05
kiu112Do the "Automated Weekly MythTV 0.21-fixes Builds" include the http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/3640 patches ?21:07
jphillipkiu112 fixed, thanks21:10
kiu112jphillip: is it cached somewhere ? i still see the wrong irc channel21:11
jphillipsame thing or does it day dev now?21:12
jphillipand I think it does get cached21:12
jphilliphmmmm21:13
kiu112same here21:13
jphilliptry to clear your cache21:14
jphilliphttp://www.mythbuntu.org/gettinginvolved should work21:14
kiu112 wget http://mythbuntu.org/gettinginvolved  -O - | grep ubuntu-mythtv --> #ubuntu-mythtv-tv.21:17
kiu112no cache :)21:17
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craigyboytazhas anyone experience with HDMI motherboard to TV?  my board boots on VGA but HDMI and DVI-HDMI show nothing over 2 HDMI cables into my TV21:19
craigyboytazthat is no post screen, hav not got as far as the mythbuntu boot on HDMI yet21:20
lagajphillip: who are you and why do you have write permission to mythbuntu.org? ;)21:20
lagaah21:20
lagarhpot1991 ;)21:20
lagagot scared for a minute. heh21:20
jphilliphaha21:23
jphilliplaga don't you worry about who I am ;)21:23
MythbuntuGuest75laga, quick question where do i point my next-server to for diskless dhcp server...external to mythbunut21:46
lagaum, if your DHCP server is external, aren't you supposed to know where it lives?21:46
MythbuntuGuest75i know the server...but it is the dir i am looking for21:47
MythbuntuGuest75.../opt/ltsp??21:47
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lagaare you talking about the tftp file name?21:48
laga/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.021:48
MythbuntuGuest75yea, think i found it..../var/lib/ltsp/amd64/pxelinux.0??21:49
lagayeah, just strip /var/lib/21:49
lagaerr, /var/lib21:49
MythbuntuGuest75kk21:49
lagaassuming the tftpd is chrooted in /var/lib/tftpboot/ which is the default on ubuntu21:50
MythbuntuGuest75thanks....and do you know if HDMI video might not work @ post, then appear when X comes on?21:50
lagano :)21:50
MythbuntuGuest80was that no you dont know...or no it doesnt?21:52
lagai don't know21:52
lagai've never used HDMI21:52
MythbuntuGuest80oh well...thanks anyway21:53
MythbuntuGuest52laga, got that part working, but now wont boot...cant open /tmp/net-eth0.conf22:20
psicobrahi all23:00
psicobraany one able to help23:00
psicobrai need to update mplayer23:00

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