[00:00] <toorima> Calebrown: try installing from the alternate cd, and with it load the proper video driver before you start x
[00:00] <Calebrown> Thank you, I'll try that right now.
[00:14] <tgm4883> toorima, dist-upgrades are required when new packages are required to be installed (such as the ssh blacklist package).  dist-upgrade does not upgrade you to the next version of Ubuntu
[00:16] <toorima> tgm4883: ok thx, just wanted to check before i upgraded, dont want to bork my box
[01:35] <GreggN> So far, I'm unable to get sound from my tv tuner pchdtv.
[01:38] <tgm4883_laptop> GreggN, analog or digital?
[01:40] <GreggN> analog, NTSC, us-cable
[01:40] <tgm4883_laptop> yea, thats a common analog software encoder problem
[01:41] <GreggN> guess I'll just email the hardware support@pchdtv.com
[01:41] <tgm4883_laptop> nah, it's not that hard to figure out
[01:41] <tgm4883_laptop> sec
[01:41] <GreggN> my googling hasn't resulted in anything that works yet - waiting for your advice...
[01:44] <tgm4883_laptop> GreggN, which card do you have?
[01:44] <GreggN> I've got the 5500
[01:46] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[01:46] <tgm4883_laptop> sec
[01:46] <tgm4883_laptop> I forget, is there an audio out on that card?
[01:47] <GreggN> Yes - there is an audio out.  The eeprom says that it is turned on - but there's no audio on the jack.
[01:47] <tgm4883_laptop> what do you have plugged into the audio out?
[01:48] <GreggN> I've tried my ear buds - but nothing.  Tried hooking it to the line-in of the sound card - but nothing.  Hooked my mp3 player into the line-in - and was able to listen to my podcasts.
[01:49] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[01:49] <tgm4883_laptop> is it muted in alsamixer?
[01:50] <GreggN> can't seem to find it in alsamixer or xfce4-mixer  - what am I looking for?
[01:51] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm, not entirely sure, I don't have mine plugged in anymore
[01:51] <tgm4883_laptop> you would probably have to switch devices in alsamixer though
[01:53] <tgm4883_laptop> honestly, i only ever used the digital portion of the card.  IMHO, Software encoders are not a viable solutiono
[01:55] <GreggN> are you saying that I should've bought a different card to work with analog cable television?
[01:57] <tgm4883_laptop> I'm saying that if you bought that card to exclusively watch analog tv, then you bought a poor card for the job.  If you bought a card for digital TV, you bought a good card.  If you bought a card that you wanted to be able to watch either then you could have bought a better card
[01:58] <tgm4883_laptop> with that being said, that card is a good card, but not if you want to do analog tv (no software encoder is good)
[01:59] <GreggN> I've bought a variety of cards over the past few years.  Was hoping that this one would handle analog now, and be ready for digital when we're forced into that option.
[01:59] <tgm4883_laptop> do you have cable or broadcast?
[02:00] <tgm4883_laptop> broadcast being antenna
[02:00] <GreggN> Comcast cable - because broadcast doesn't work well without a much bigger antenna.
[02:00] <tgm4883_laptop> actually digital broadcast works pretty well
[02:01] <GreggN> digital broadcast doesn't work here.  I've tried a variety of tuners and a variety of rabbit-ears-type antennas
[02:02] <tgm4883_laptop> and since you have cable, you have until 2012.  So i'd return the card if you can and get either a true analog card like the pvr-150/500 (should be cheap, they are end of life now) or get a hybrid card like the hvr-1600 or 1800.  Warning on those though that they don't work very well yet
[02:02] <tgm4883_laptop> if you are so inclined to keep trying what you have now, i'd email the manu
[02:03] <GreggN> Thanks for the advice.  Time to search eBay for a pvr-500.  I'll hold onto the pchdtv . . . maybe I'll be able to use it after I buy an outdoor antenna for digital.
[02:04] <tgm4883_laptop> you could also see what digital channels you get over your cable
[02:04] <tgm4883_laptop> you should at least get the locals
[02:05] <GreggN> I'll try scanning the cable, but we only subscribe to the analog package since it is about $14 per month instead of $54.
[02:08] <tgm4883_laptop> yea I think I got my digital channels while I had the basic package with comcast
[02:54] <orangepeelbeef> anyone know how to stop mythfrontend from starting up every time i log into kde4 ?
[03:54] <MythbuntuGuest11> Hello, I just upgraded my video card on my Mythbuntu machine.  I've got the drivers working with the new card and everything I do on the Ubuntu desktop looks fine, but when MythTV loads the menus are all scrambled.  Any suggestions?
[04:11] <stoneymonster> any ideas when trunk builds might be available? or does anyone know how to build trunk from source for mythbuntu without screwing up packaging? trying to get hdrpvr support working.....
[04:29] <Nostahl> any of you guys ever hear of a express card slot to usb cable?
[04:29] <Nostahl> i know they have it for pcmcia to usb
[05:42] <Nostahl> heyey guys
[05:42] <Nostahl> what format does myth tv use for saving music you rip
[05:42] <Nostahl> ie does it make a separate folder for each band
[05:43] <Nostahl> or does it do it by album names
[05:43] <Nostahl> trying to figure if all the stuff i've started ripping already will pass over well to my new myth box
[08:56] <quentusrex> Is anyone aware of the status of audio over hdmi?
[08:56] <quentusrex> I am very interested in this feature and would be willing to help develop if needed.
[08:59] <hads> It's not really a feature that needs developing, if your hardware does it it should just work.
[09:00] <quentusrex> hads, do you know what hardware is able to do it?
[09:00] <quentusrex> I can't find anything that has a hardware list with this feature...
[09:00] <quentusrex> Just lots of people saying that they can't get it to work...
[09:01] <hads> The HDMI output in your video card or where ever it is needs to have audio piped into it.
[09:02] <hads> Which will depend on your video card and sound card.
[09:02] <quentusrex> I'd like to use integrated video with the integrated hdmi ports
[09:02] <quentusrex> would this be possible?
[09:02] <quentusrex> would it depend on the graphics chipset?
[09:03] <hads> It will depend on your motherboard I guess.
[09:04] <quentusrex> What is the right question to ask to find out if a particular mother board works for audio over hdmi? or to find a list of motherboards that do work?
[09:05] <hads> I don't know, I don't use HDMI output
[12:09] <famicom> Rozza debian
[13:58] <Migzu> Hay
[13:59] <Migzu> I got some problems with new mythtv-update
[13:59] <Migzu> I apt-get upgraded
[13:59] <Migzu> But there's something wrong with "myth-database"-package
[14:00] <Migzu> It gives me this error
[14:00] <Migzu> "Syntax error at -e line 5, near "¤db = DBI->connect('"
[14:00] <Migzu> And the other stuff depends on myth-database
[14:01] <Migzu> So im kinda screwed up
[14:01] <Migzu> Any fixes?
[14:25] <calebbrown> Hello, I just set up a dedicated mythbuntu backend, and the setup went great (detected my cards, configured SchedulesDirect etc.). When I point a front end at the IP address of the backend, it connects and looks like it's going to work until I hit something like Watch TV.  Then it askes if I'm sure my backend is turned on and the IP is correct (and I know it is).  Any ideas?
[14:59] <foxbuntu> calebbrown, did you tell your dedicated backend that it would need to allow additional MythTV systems?
[15:00] <calebbrown> I did yes, I confirmed remote connections.  Is there a way to test these connections man make sure they are open and responding?
[15:00] <foxbuntu> if not open MCC and you can enabled it from the services, (the MySQL service) then just reboot the box (the backend) and your frontend as long as it has the correct ip should work after you restart it or restart X (ctrl + bkspc)
[15:00] <foxbuntu> calebbrown, yea...I dont recall the ports off the top of my head
[15:01] <foxbuntu> calebbrown, in the backend did you give it a private network address or leave the default of 127.0.0.1?
[15:01] <calebbrown> I tried both, giving it my local 192.168.1.2 as well as localhost.
[15:04] <calebbrown> foxbuntu, thank you very much..I'll go ahead and try to make sure the remote connections are working.  I figured it was, since the front end did allow me to login (I assumed this meant the mysql password was correct)
[15:54] <gregL> From what i hear trunk is somewhat stable now..I would like to use my hdpvr ,but you need trunk to do that...Is there any time line to resume weekly trunk builds?
[15:55] <laga> yes
[15:55] <laga> when trunk is more stable ;)
[15:55] <laga> but if there's sufficient demand...
[15:56] <stoneymonster> consider this a second request ;) ;)
[15:56] <gregL> ok Thanks.. Yeah I have tried a few times to compile my own but seem to run into errors..
[15:58] <laga> alright, two requests are enough. when do you need it?
[15:59] <stoneymonster> sometime in the next week would be nice, but this is free software so I'll take what I can get
[16:00] <gregL> asap for me :)
[16:00] <laga> heh
[16:00] <laga> alright
[16:00] <laga> tonight or tomorrow (GTM+2)
[16:01] <stoneymonster> fantastic
[16:01] <jphillip> do any of you guys know what kind of cpu you need for hdpvr playback?
[16:01] <stoneymonster> huge
[16:01] <jphillip> I'm interested if my x2 5000+ can handle it
[16:01] <stoneymonster> depends on the birate of the recordins
[16:01] <stoneymonster> and ffmpeg only can use one core for decoding, which makes matters worse
[16:01] <stoneymonster> you can buy coreavc and patch myth to use it I hear to solve that, but it's less than ideal
[16:02] <jphillip> ya I've heard that too
[16:02] <stoneymonster> my core 2 duo 6600 (2.2ghz) struggles to play back 10mbit recordings at 1280x720
[16:02] <laga> superm1: you have been messing with coreavc. should i add that patch to the trunk builds
[16:02] <superm1> not yet
[16:02] <laga> sad.
[16:02] <superm1> it doesnt build on amd64 correctly
[16:02] <laga> maybe create a hdpvr PPA
[16:02] <superm1> so i'd rather not introduce it until thats fixed right
[16:02] <laga> well, the directshow server patch will build?!
[16:02] <superm1> i'll mess with it after work tonight
[16:03] <laga> for *myth*
[16:03] <laga> alright
[16:03] <superm1> it should
[16:03] <superm1> i dont know about trunk for sure
[16:03] <laga> then i'll create a new mythtv-hdpvr team i guess.. since i don't want to pollute the normal trunk builds..
[16:05] <laga> OTOH, not sure if i want to spend that much time on something that'll be merged into -fixes sooner or later. so the directshow server patch better be easy to integrate ;)
[18:00] <Kip|Work> I'm trying to install Mythbuntu 8.04 on an AthlonXP system with 1GB Ram, 120GB HDD just to get it up and running, but the installation never makes it beyond 5% in the partitioning phase.  It has done this with 3 harddrives, 3 different CD burns, 2 distros of 8.04, and others verify similar problems here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=445244     Help?
[18:36] <sebrock> Kip|Work, try the alternative install CD
[18:38] <Kip|Work> Already tried it
[18:39] <Kip|Work> I'm able to boot into live environment after a healthy train of DRDY ERR listings, but incapable of getting beyond paritioning
[19:23] <Tophat> what would be the best way for me to setup a media center?  I want to buy a video card  that i can input my cable, record, and them output to my TV.  preferabbly with HD.  is this possible?
[19:32] <jphillip> Tophat your best bet is to do seperate input and output cards
[19:32] <Tophat> any suggestions?
[19:32] <jphillip> hauppauge pvr350 can do both, but can really only do mpeg2 output well
[19:32] <jphillip> depends what you want to capture
[19:32] <jphillip> and where you live
[19:32] <jphillip> (what signals you can get)
[19:34] <Tophat> NTSC
[19:34] <Tophat> jphillip - Thanks mate! ill be looking around and try to find some more stuff before i make it final. thanks again!
[19:40] <scant> how much setup is involved after MythBuntu is installed?
[19:46] <laga> superm1: depends.
[19:46] <laga> err, scant
[19:50] <scant> laga: I've been a Knoppmyth user, but KnoppMyth still doesn't have a distro with 0.21 and the maintainer is pretty egotistical, the people in #knoppmyth say there's more setup involved with MythBuntu, but from reading the doc pdf, I'm not sure if that statement is true
[19:53] <jphillip> as long as you know how to setup your hardware in mythtv itself (and don't have any strange hardware) then it should be fairly easy to setup
[19:54] <scant> ok
[20:00] <Ace2016_> Hi all
[20:01] <Ace2016_> why does mythbuntu not include lm-sensors so you can keep an eye on temps by default/
[20:01] <Ace2016_> ?
[20:02] <jphillip> Ace2016_ just install it
[20:03] <Ace2016_> i have no net connection to it :(
[20:03] <jphillip> when you do you can install it from apt or synaptec
[20:12] <DrMoss> Hi.  I'm back.  I never got an answer the other night, but I now think I understand a bit more.
[20:12] <DrMoss> I tried to install Mythbuntu
[20:12] <DrMoss> I've since tried to install MythDora5 and also Ubuntu.
[20:13] <DrMoss> Same problems...
[20:13] <DrMoss> I think it comes down to having a SATA drive.
[20:13] <Ace2016_> sata drives work fine for me on 2 systems
[20:14] <DrMoss> Hmmm.  I get the 'Busybox v1.1.3 error.  There's a few forums about it, but it's got me stumped.
[20:15] <Ace2016_> have you written down the exact error?
[20:15] <DrMoss> I had to change the boot options... ie delete "quiet..." and add "add_generic_ide", then it will install
[20:15] <DrMoss> But eventually, upon reboot,...
[20:15] <DrMoss> I get the Mythbuntu logo and the waiting bar
[20:15] <DrMoss> but it will hang on that for say 3 mins or so and then back to a busybox and initramfs prompt.
[20:17] <DrMoss> So, if I were to try and problem solve, I would ask, what did 'all_generic_ide' do to let me install??? and now that it's installed,...
[20:17] <Ace2016_> what motherboard is it?
[20:17] <DrMoss> Asus M3N78emh hdmi.
[20:17] <DrMoss> It's a new model.
[20:18] <DrMoss> ...and now that it's installed,...what do I modify some where (as I have a prompt) to get Mythbuntu to load on reboot?
[20:21] <Ace2016_> that seems to be a very troublesome motherboard if you're going to put linux on it
[20:22] <DrMoss> Hmmm.  I thought Asus boards were quite good.  Is there some webforum or something that you've got your info from? (so I can have a look)?
[20:23] <Ace2016_> the board is good, but its very new, linux support is slightly behind on it, there is a thread about it in the forums
[20:23] <DrMoss> Ok - any chance you can let me know the exact forum link?
[20:24] <Ace2016_> here you go http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=792629
[20:32] <DrMoss> Thanks Ace.  Holy crap - I guess it's too new!  (I've got everything already working under Windoze (i'm a newbie to Linux), but even under Windozzz their new Bios update has issues and stops my Pci slots working properly.  I'll keep a close eye on that forum.  BTW, where I thought I was going was somewhere being described in this forum: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/220885
[21:05] <kiu112> hi, anybody got write permission on the "get involved" page ? http://mythbuntu.org/gettinginvolved ---> s/#ubuntu-mythtv-tv/#ubuntu-mythtv/
[21:07] <kiu112> Do the "Automated Weekly MythTV 0.21-fixes Builds" include the http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/3640 patches ?
[21:10] <jphillip> kiu112 fixed, thanks
[21:11] <kiu112> jphillip: is it cached somewhere ? i still see the wrong irc channel
[21:12] <jphillip> same thing or does it day dev now?
[21:12] <jphillip> and I think it does get cached
[21:13] <jphillip> hmmmm
[21:13] <kiu112> same here
[21:14] <jphillip> try to clear your cache
[21:14] <jphillip> http://www.mythbuntu.org/gettinginvolved should work
[21:17] <kiu112>  wget http://mythbuntu.org/gettinginvolved  -O - | grep ubuntu-mythtv --> #ubuntu-mythtv-tv.
[21:17] <kiu112> no cache :)
[21:19] <craigyboytaz> has anyone experience with HDMI motherboard to TV?  my board boots on VGA but HDMI and DVI-HDMI show nothing over 2 HDMI cables into my TV
[21:20] <craigyboytaz> that is no post screen, hav not got as far as the mythbuntu boot on HDMI yet
[21:20] <laga> jphillip: who are you and why do you have write permission to mythbuntu.org? ;)
[21:20] <laga> ah
[21:20] <laga> rhpot1991 ;)
[21:20] <laga> got scared for a minute. heh
[21:23] <jphillip> haha
[21:23] <jphillip> laga don't you worry about who I am ;)
[21:46] <MythbuntuGuest75> laga, quick question where do i point my next-server to for diskless dhcp server...external to mythbunut
[21:46] <laga> um, if your DHCP server is external, aren't you supposed to know where it lives?
[21:47] <MythbuntuGuest75> i know the server...but it is the dir i am looking for
[21:47] <MythbuntuGuest75> .../opt/ltsp??
[21:48] <laga> are you talking about the tftp file name?
[21:48] <laga> /ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
[21:49] <MythbuntuGuest75> yea, think i found it..../var/lib/ltsp/amd64/pxelinux.0??
[21:49] <laga> yeah, just strip /var/lib/
[21:49] <laga> err, /var/lib
[21:49] <MythbuntuGuest75> kk
[21:50] <laga> assuming the tftpd is chrooted in /var/lib/tftpboot/ which is the default on ubuntu
[21:50] <MythbuntuGuest75> thanks....and do you know if HDMI video might not work @ post, then appear when X comes on?
[21:50] <laga> no :)
[21:52] <MythbuntuGuest80> was that no you dont know...or no it doesnt?
[21:52] <laga> i don't know
[21:52] <laga> i've never used HDMI
[21:53] <MythbuntuGuest80> oh well...thanks anyway
[22:20] <MythbuntuGuest52> laga, got that part working, but now wont boot...cant open /tmp/net-eth0.conf
[23:00] <psicobra> hi all
[23:00] <psicobra> any one able to help
[23:00] <psicobra> i need to update mplayer