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hansinI figured it out in regards to Exim4.  "mysql-server-5.0" recommends "mailx" which depends on "exim4".  I used apptitude, and don't remember it asking me if I wanted to install the recommends files, but this has to be it, and maybe it installed by default.  Thanks for the help; I'm learn new bits all the time and appreciate the tips.00:08
hansinmeaning installed the depends files by default...00:09
hansinwoops, recommends...00:09
uvirtbot`New bug: #243098 in samba (main) "samba in folder properties doesn't interact with samba in system administration" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24309800:31
ScottKmathiaz: ^^^ We ought to make sure that our mysql package in Intrepid doesn't install exim4.01:17
mathiazScottK: right - that would be annoying01:24
leonelScottK: I'll check that  MIR  ..02:37
ScottKleonel: Thanks.02:39
ScottKIt's mostly just grinding through documenting stuff.02:39
leonelthis is intended for Intrepid right ?02:40
osmosisCan anyone tell me what this from my dmesg is being caused by? http://dpaste.com/59176/   2.6.24-19-server02:41
ScottKYes02:42
ScottKleonel: The first thing to do is look at all the depends, recommends, and build-depends and see what is in Universe.  I don't think we want to promote all of clamav to Main, just clamd and the parts it needs.02:50
leonelScottK: ok  it's a new thing for me  ..02:56
leonelScottK: but I'll do it02:56
ScottKleonel: Great.02:57
leonelScottK:  off the record ...  I'm finishing some work that has me busy this months and I want to start with merges ..02:59
ScottKThis probably isn't the best place for off the record comments.03:01
leoneljejeje03:01
leoneli know ..03:02
c1|freakyhow do I back up a gpg-key-pair ive generated using gpg --gen-key ? i know it's ID but don't know how to export or whatever you do with it to back it up oO03:54
Ashfire908I'm trying to get Apache2 to use the php-cgi package, but when I visit a page, it offers to download the php page insteand of processing it. I've tried switching back to the apache module but the same thing happenes.05:50
Ashfire908Anyone know how to solve it?05:59
chmacAshfire908: I had a similar problem when I was setting up a box. I removed apache and all the php stuff, then re-installed, and it worked06:03
exothello, please can any body help me to configure bugzilla to send mails, using either SMTP or sendmail, I spent 8 days for nothing08:05
RockHoundsommer: you up?08:11
krautmoin08:27
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exothello, I'm trying to  configure sendmail, but I get the messagestart-stop-daemon: stat /usr/sbin/sendmail-mta: No such file or directory (No such file or directory)09:01
exot/etc/init.d/sendmail: 1287: /usr/sbin/sendmail-msp: not found09:01
uvirtbot`New bug: #243157 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "package mysql-server 5.0.51a-3ubuntu5.1 failed to install/upgrade: probl?mes de d?pendances - laiss? non configur?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24315709:25
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sommerRockHound: yo13:33
RockHoundsommer: ^^13:34
RockHoundsommer: I don't think that the start_tls issue has anything to do with the indexes, as I tested against a newly (with hardy-proposed) slave server13:35
RockHoundamongst others13:35
RockHoundbut I posted them in any case13:35
sommerRockHound: ya, it was kind of a long shot... I just noticed that it happaned far less once I indexed, so thought I'd double check13:36
sommerI think what the issue needs is a stack trace either slapd or php5-ldap that shows an error13:36
RockHoundsommer: I have never done such a thing but am always will to learn ... any good documentation that can be recommend?13:37
RockHoundsommer: could we check what version of libldap authnz-ldap (apache2 acutally) and php5-ldap are compiled against? or are they dynamically linked?13:38
sommerRockHound: not too sure on that myself, you should probably look at strace13:38
sommerRockHound: not 100% sure on that either, but my money is on gnutls having slightly different behavior.  At least that seems to be one of the new things with the Hardy versions13:39
sommerbut until there's something concrete to point to and say this is the cause, it's kind of hard to solve the bug13:40
RockHoundhmm .. openldap with gnutls was really foobar for a while ... don't know if that still is the case though13:40
sommerI'll probably have some more time this weekend to dive into it13:40
sommerRockHound: I think it's pretty solid, but still maybe some corner cases that have some glitches13:40
sommeror things just not tested as thouroughly13:41
sommerI think experimenting with strace is the best place to start13:41
barjomanGreetings13:58
barjomanI've just installed Ubuntu Server Edition 7.10. Unfortunately, my user does not have sudo privileges13:59
barjomanAny help with that would be appreciated13:59
barjomananyone here?14:01
lukehasnonamehe was impatient14:01
barjomanhi14:02
barjomananyone here?14:02
ScottKYes14:02
barjomanGreat!14:02
ScottKlukehasnoname: The answer to your question from yesterday is softlayer.com14:03
barjomanI've just installed server v. 7.10, but unfortunately, my user does not have sudo privileges. I'm the only user installed...14:03
lukehasnonameawesome14:03
sommerScottK: morning, I wasn't able to update my clamav team status... it's telling me I have three days left, until armameddon14:03
ScottKbarjoman: What is the exact error you get?14:04
ScottKsommer: Looking.14:04
barjomanScottK: "sudo -v" yields: "Sorry, user barjoman may not run sudo on master"14:04
ScottKOdd.14:07
ScottKI know that doesn't help much.14:07
barjomanhehe...14:07
RockHoundbarjoman: but you setup a user on installation? is that the same user?14:07
barjomanRockhound: the only user set up on installation was barjoman14:07
RockHoundokay14:07
RockHoundhmm14:07
ScottKsommer: Updated.14:07
barjomanI'm currently logged in as "barjoman@master"14:07
sommerScottK: cool, thanks14:07
RockHoundbarjoman: and the installation went without a problem?14:07
barjomanRockhound: I didn't see anything unusual. No errors or anything...14:07
RockHoundbarjoman: are you experienced with ubuntu/linux?14:08
ScottKhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClamavSpamassassinInMain is updated if anyone feels like working on Main Inclusion Reports.14:08
RockHoundI only see the chance of booting from a livecd and checking out /etc/group and /etc/sudoers14:08
barjomanRockhound: No I'm not. I've worked a bit with the desktop edition, but I am still very much an amateur14:08
RockHoundbarjoman: then do yourself a favor and try to install it again ...14:09
barjomanRockhound: Should I boot from livecd first, or just go for the fresh install?14:09
ScottKWasn't there some bug about sudo and hostname mismatches?14:09
RockHoundbarjoman: its your time, but I would just reinstall, since you have not customized anything yet ...14:10
ScottKIt might be useful to have some idea what he should do differently next time.14:10
RockHoundtrue14:11
ScottKbarjoman: Is it DCHP or static IP?14:11
RockHoundScottK: maybe it was just a wierd coninciedence ...14:11
barjomanScottK: I'm using a DSL connection, so I think its DHCP14:11
RockHounda look in /etc/group and /etc/sudoers might help14:11
RockHoundbarjoman: you have router?14:12
RockHoundfrom the ISP?14:12
barjomanRockhound: yes, and yes14:12
RockHoundbarjoman: okay ... then it could be a DNS glitch ... ScottK what do you think?14:12
RockHoundhostname glitch14:13
* ScottK is looking at bugs.14:13
ScottKWait one please.14:13
RockHoundk14:13
RockHoundbarjoman: did it suggest a hostname to you while installing, other then the standard "ubuntu"?14:13
barjomanRockhound: I think I changed that to "master"14:14
RockHoundbut it was just ubuntu?14:14
barjomanyes14:14
RockHoundokay ... then DHCP did not supply a hostname14:14
RockHoundwhich is okay, I guess14:14
RockHoundlets wait for Scott14:14
barjomanOK. I'm fetching a liveCD in the meantime14:14
ScottKWhich version are you one again?14:15
barjomanthe Server edition is 7.1014:15
* ScottK tosses Bug #19775 at barjoman to see what he thinks.14:16
uvirtbot`Launchpad bug 19775 in netcfg "Missing hostname in /etc/hosts causes sudo to fail" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1977514:16
barjomanThanks ScottK. I gather the easiest fix is an upgrade to 8.04, correct? That isn't possible right now though. I'm booting with a liveCD to look into the /etc/sudoers folder14:21
ScottKSounds like a good plan.14:22
barjomanalright14:25
barjomanUnfortunately, I don't have permission to look at sudoers14:25
barjomanI've opened up group though14:25
barjomanis there anything I should be looking for?14:26
yell0wedit /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname and reboot ?14:27
RockHoundbarjoman: make sure, you are looking at the /etc/sudoers file of the harddisk and not of livecd14:27
barjomanRockhound: I am looking at the HD14:27
barjomanyell0w: what exactly would I edit?14:28
RockHoundbarjoman: okay ... does the bug effect you?14:28
barjomanRockhound: what do you mean? I definitely have the problem. Do you mean, do I have to use sudo?14:29
RockHoundno, no ... is the hostname missing in /etc/hosts as is stated in the bug14:29
RockHound?14:30
barjomanhold on14:30
barjomanyes14:30
barjomanin /etc/hosts, the first line reads as follows:14:31
barjoman127.0.0.1 localhost14:31
RockHoundokay ... can you edit hosts?14:31
barjomanyes14:31
RockHoundthen add master after it14:31
RockHoundmake sure you edit /etc/hosts on the HDD14:31
barjomanSo it should read as follows:14:32
barjoman127.0.0.1 localhost master14:32
RockHoundyes14:32
barjomancorrect?14:32
RockHoundyes14:32
RockHoundshould be all there is too it14:32
barjomando I space or tab?14:32
RockHoundspace14:32
barjomanbetween localhost and master?14:32
barjomanok14:32
RockHoundit does not matter, IIRC14:33
barjomanhmmphhh....I don't have permission to save the file14:33
barjomanlemme double check that I'm editing on the HD14:33
barjomandoesn't work unfortunately14:36
barjomanI am indeed editing the file on the HD, but can't save it14:37
yell0wsudo ?14:40
barjomanI am attempting to edit /etc/hosts14:41
RockHoundbarjoman: you need to use the livecd sudo command to edit the /etc/hosts on your HDD14:41
RockHoundI guess14:41
yell0wsudo vi /etc/hosts14:41
barjomanDoes that mean I need to open a terminal?14:41
yell0wsudo gedit /etc/hosts14:41
yell0wyes14:42
RockHoundyell0w: better choice ;)14:42
yell0wRockHound: not on terminal14:42
RockHoundyell0w: vi for a beginner is not a good choice ...14:42
RockHoundthats what I meant14:42
RockHoundbut gedit is fine14:43
RockHoundseems to work14:43
mouz(sorry if wrong channel: no answer in #ubuntu-testing) Is it OK if tests 2.3 through 2.9 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Cases/ServerInstall are combined (combining the software selection steps)? It would make ISO server testing faster.14:43
barjomanlivecd seems to have frozen on me14:44
barjomanI'm going to reboot14:44
lukehasnoname<offtopic> One of you UK blokes, how much does petrol cost per litre over there?14:47
sommermouz: I don't combine them14:47
barjomanyell0w/Rockhound: Terminal edits the file on liveCD14:48
sommermouz: the thinking is that it's "cleaner" to test individually, but OTOH testing a combination is probably good as well... at least that's my thought :)14:49
mouzsommer: i won't combine them. thanks14:50
sommernp14:51
barjomanOK! Done!!!14:52
barjomanI just did: "sudo gedit /media/disk/etc/hosts" instead14:52
barjomanUnfortunately, "sudo -v" still yields "Sorry, user barjoman may not run sudo on master"14:55
barjomanI need to leave right now, but I'll be back later to follow up on this14:55
barjomanThank you Rockhound, yell0w, and ScottK for your help14:56
barjomanCheers!14:56
zulmathiaz: I may have a fix for the cacert gnutls openldap bug Im going to get him to test it when it builds in my ppa16:35
mathiazzul: great - is it a patch from upstream cvs ?16:35
zulmathiaz: no its from a previous version of openldap which got dropped in oenldap2.116:36
zulprevious debian version16:36
mathiazzul: it may worth asking upstream opinion on it16:36
zuland the bacula-fd segfault is fixed locally as well16:36
zulof course16:36
mathiazzul: that seems like a bug in upstream rather then a packaging issue16:37
zulmathiaz: the bacula one? it is they have a patch in 2.2.10 which fixes it for 2.2.8, I had to revert debian's "fix"16:37
mathiazzul: nope - I'm talking about openldap16:38
zulmathiaz: oh :) yeah its a bug in upstream I dont think they ever got that patch from debian16:38
zulhttp://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-openldap/openldap/trunk/libraries/libldap/?rev=220&sc=116:39
mralphabetis there a flat file dictionary in apt? or anybody know where to get one?16:40
zulmralphabet: what do you mean?16:41
zulor what are you trying to do?16:41
ScottKNote to self: It's Wietse Venema, not Weitse.16:46
melterhow do i get ubuntu server to automatically set the hostname from a dhcp server, for example, dynXXX.example.com?17:02
Tophatis it possible to replace my current windows servers with ubuntu server and have my users use ubuntu and have them log into the said servers as they would with MS domains?17:02
bamedTophat: yes, Samba can be configured as a Windows PDC, however it can't serve AD just yet, it acts like an NT4 PDC17:03
Tophatwell im not trying to add ubuntu to my network, im looking into removing windows and replacing it with linux.  so no need for any windows PC's.  we just need to have the users log in to the ubntu server and get the updates or settings we have configured for them. ? possible?17:04
bamedwhat kind of updates or settings, or you talking about Group Policies and WSUS?17:05
bamedyou can use Samba in Ubuntu as a central login server and to provide share17:06
bamed*shares17:06
Tophatreally?17:06
Tophati thought samba was jsut to link windows shares and stuff.17:06
bamedlike I said, it can have all the functionality of a Windows NT4 Primary Domain Controller17:07
bamedjust no Active Directory until Samba4 is released17:07
Tophatthats awesome! and i can add users and delete users from the samba server for the entire network?17:07
bamedyep, I think there's a guide in the wiki somewhere17:08
bamedhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba <-lots of useful info17:08
Tophatthats awesome! thanks bamed!17:08
bamedy/w17:08
ScottKmelter: If the dhcp server provides the hostname, then an Ubuntu server should set it if it's setup for dhcp.17:16
melterScottK, i have dhcp3-client installed, and it's not working17:27
melterScottK, the dhcp server is providing names because my non-ubuntu boxes are getting set correctly17:28
ScottKNot sure what to tell you then.  Maybe someone else knows.17:28
jdstrandzul: hmm, I haven't gotten to looking into bug #241448 more yet, but it feels like the samba changes exposed a gstreamer bug" bug #61147 and gnome bug #359133 (and gnome bug #536949 )17:29
uvirtbot`Launchpad bug 241448 in totem "Playing from Samba SMB shared folder now is not possible (it could be done until last upgrade)." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24144817:29
uvirtbot`Launchpad bug 61147 in totem "edgy: totem can no longer stream from samba share (dup-of: 60326)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/6114717:29
uvirtbot`Launchpad bug 60326 in gnome-vfs2 "[edgy] gstreamer, rhythmbox won't read files over smb" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/6032617:29
uvirtbot`Gnome bug 359133 in Module: smb "[gnomevfssrc] smb:// - could not read from (valid) resource" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35913317:29
uvirtbot`Gnome bug 536949 in GStreamer backend "Can not read from Samba location with weird charaters" [Normal,Resolved: duplicate] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53694917:29
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zuljdstrand: *sigh*17:55
zuljdstrand: I think the desktop team knows about it17:56
jdstrandzul: I am still not sure if it was the -updates bits or the -security bits, but hope to get to the bottom of it17:56
jdstrandsomewhat soon17:56
jdstrandI've got some -security stuff that needs to get out before I can work on it though17:57
zuljdstrand: cool Ill take a look but you arent able to reproduce it are you?17:57
jdstrandzul: no, but more information came in-- specifically that mounting seems to work fine in all cases.  that was my test case-- I didn't do the nautilus browse and play-- I did mount, nautilus to mount point, play17:58
jdstrandzul: also, people finally sent in smb.conf files for their servers17:58
zuljdstrand: yeah I saw17:59
jdstrandzul: like I said, I haven't had much time to look into it yet17:59
bdmurraykirkland: is there a sort by date option for the doc search?18:08
kirklandbdmurray: how do you mean?18:08
bdmurrayI'm search irclogs only and want the most recent conversations first18:09
kirklandbdmurray: sorry, no, it's up to google's algorithm at that point18:09
zuljdstrand: doesnt help that gnome's bugzilla seems to be down for me18:10
jdstrand:(18:11
kirklandbdmurray: hang on... i found a lead....18:11
bdmurraybeing able to search the irclogs is really helpful18:12
kirklandbdmurray: hmm, not sure this is going to help much, but this is what I have at my disposal...18:14
kirklandbdmurray: http://code.google.com/apis/soapsearch/reference.html18:14
kirklandbdmurray: see "Date Restricted Search"18:14
kirklandbdmurray: unfortunately, the format must be Julian dates18:15
bdmurrayhaha18:15
kirklandbdmurray: number of days since January 1, 4713 BC18:15
kirkland:-P18:15
bdmurraythat's great18:15
kirklandbdmurray: right, because the sum total of a webpages update between January 1, 4713 BC and about 1993 is a whopping ZERO18:15
bdmurraykirkland: inurl might work better since the log files are dated18:18
kirklandbdmurray: yeah, good call18:18
kirklandbdmurray: apparent the Google Search Appliance supports human readable formats:18:18
kirklandhttp://code.google.com/apis/searchappliance/documentation/46/xml_reference.html18:18
kirklandbdmurray: ie, daterange:2004-01-13..2006-01-1318:19
ScottKleonel and anyone else interested (sommer?): I've done some MIR for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClamavSpamassassinInMain to get things started.  Please jump in and grab some.18:34
sommerScottK: cool, ya I was planning on taking a look at that this weekend... working on some LDAP shtuff that will hopefully be over the hump by then18:36
ScottKGreat.18:36
ScottKThe MIR for spamassassin are all perl modules.  They should be pretty easy, just a lot to grind through.18:36
FuRomAnyone in here know anything about ettercap and filters?18:36
ScottKsommer: I'm also going to want to talk to you about documentation for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerAmavisdDKIMSpec18:37
leonelScottK: in the weekend  I'll  work on it18:38
sommerScottK: sure, I'm up for helping with whatever18:38
ScottKGreat.18:39
ScottKI'm trying to get the DKIM MIR done today.18:40
FuRomI could use some help with ettercap filtering. I'm trying to run http://pastie.org/222744 and it doesn't change "Google" to "GOOGLE" at all, when I go to google.com, when I'm running the filter. Is there some extra library that I need to install or something to make filter's work? It runs through the if statement. It'll return text from msg(), but if I search DECODED.data or DATA.data, for "Google", it doesn't find anything. I18:40
FuRomGah, lol18:40
FuRomWrong room xD18:40
melterdoes anyone know how to get ubuntu to set the hostname to the one provided by the dhcp server?18:58
melterif i install another dhcp client, like pump, how does ubuntu server know which client to use at boot time, dhclient or pump?19:31
loeppelhi there19:41
lukehasnonamemelter and loeppel: A lot of times this channel is slow, so be patient for someone who might be able to help.19:42
lukehasnonamejust letting you guys know19:42
loeppel;)19:43
melterlukehasnoname, i've been trying to solve this problem off and on for weeks now, so i've learned to have patience :)19:44
loeppeli'm trying to backport php 5.2 to dapper - first i tryed prevu but this fails cause of some issues if pbuilder and local repos19:45
loeppelbut then i found dotdeb which contains a php 5.2.6 for debian sarge and etch19:45
loeppelbut it seems that the package names between ubuntu and debian differs19:46
loeppel:(19:46
loeppelbut they building them with libapr0 and the ubuntu gutsy source package need libapr1 - so i think this is required by a patch?19:48
axisyshow do I get a restart notification after apt-get upgrade done kernel update ?20:10
mralphabetzul: grep SomeStringOfLetters SomeDictionary20:18
mralphabetzul: is what I am trying to do, though i can't seem to find 'SomeDictionary' to sue20:19
mralphabetuse even20:19
zulmralphabet: im missing the context for this20:20
mralphabet10:38 < mralphabet> is there a flat file dictionary in apt? or anybody know where to get one?20:21
ScottKmathiaz: All the MIR for the DKIM spec are done and waiting for ubuntu-mir to process them.20:21
mralphabet10:38 < zul> mralphabet: what do you mean?20:21
mralphabet10:39 < zul> or what are you trying to do?20:21
mralphabetzul: sorry, I know it has been a few hours20:22
zulthen can you restare what you are doing then?20:23
mralphabetzul: what I want to do is be able to grep a dictionary file20:25
zulmralphabet: so grep [a-z]* filename20:25
mralphabetright, the piece I am missing is 'filename'20:26
mralphabetI am trying to find some sort of flat file dictionary or other dictionary file that is easily grepable20:27
thinkmassiveI left an install running on a VM over night and now it is stuck at "Select and install software" at 80% on "Configuring openssh-server"20:32
thinkmassiveis there some way to get the status on another console, to see what processes are running?20:32
thinkmassiveI'd rather not quit the installer and start from scratch since it's this far20:33
_sourcemakeri have installed the ubuntu server edition and it's working pretty cool... are there documentation to secure the server (LAMP) as well as installing security updates?20:35
_sourcemakeri have installed the ubuntu server edition and it's working pretty cool... are there documentation to secure the server (LAMP) as well as installing security updates?20:36
ScottK_sourcemaker: You should probably be looking in https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/index.html20:38
lukehasnonameA ban on handguns in Washington DC has been ruled unconstitutional by the United States Supreme Court.20:55
axisyshow do I cacth the restart notification? after all I am not using in this gui20:56
axisyss/cacth/catch/20:56
mathiazScottK: awesome !21:07
c1|freakyis there any websoftware (webinterface) to manage documents etc.?21:07
ScottKOf course that needed only 6.  Spamassassin needs 14 (12 still needed).21:08
* yarddog buys an AK47 for the house21:23
yarddoghehe, wrong window21:24
uvirtbotNew bug: #243337 in openldap2.3 (main) "slapd: search.c:970: oc_filter: Assertion `f != ((void *)0)' failed." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24333722:12
uvirtbotNew bug: #243338 in samba (main) "wireless network connection lost on samba connect" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24333822:12
jdstrandc1|freaky: I have used docmgr in the past, but it isn't packaged22:31
c1|freakyjdstrand: ok thank you ill have a look at it :D22:31
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nxvlsoren: around?23:32

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