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cppmonkeyI deleted all the old deb packages. so I have 156MB free before I login00:01
cppmonkeyAny other things I could clear off would be great00:01
evil_techthunar can't browse network file shares like nautilus does can it?00:05
evil_techanyone?00:08
cppmonkeycheers Stroganoff00:16
evil_techanyone?00:18
cppmonkeyid help if I knew, thats one of the probs I have with Xubuntu.00:19
Stroganoffcppmonkey it can00:41
Stroganoffhttp://tomfichtner.de/linux/wiki/FuseSMB00:41
Stroganoffyou should be able to uninstall old kernels with synaptic00:42
Stroganoffyou can run sudo apt-get autoremove or even deborphan00:43
cppmonkeyStroganoff, if I login in with the GUI it makes my HD issue even worse, eBox web interface stops working00:43
zoredacheif you are really hurting for space don't be afraid to remove the 'xubuntu-desktop' package.00:43
cppmonkeyive tried autoremove00:43
cppmonkeytried to remove the old kernal install 2.6.24-1600:44
StroganoffHD issue?00:44
cppmonkeywell I mean the space00:44
Stroganoffso its full?00:44
cppmonkeyreduces the space from 158MB to 69MB00:44
cppmonkeyfrom what I understand the last 5% is reserved00:45
cppmonkeyand its 96% full00:46
zoredacheyou really don't want to get that full... You start getting lots of fragmentation00:46
cppmonkeyits CF card, so not as bad as it if wear a HD... but still not good00:47
cppmonkeythink Im going to have to order a new 4GB card to replace this 2GB one00:47
zoredacheif you don't care about docs you could truncate everything in /usr/share/doc/*00:48
cppmonkeythought 2GB would have been enough for basic OS with GUI to use as a router00:48
zoredachecppmonkey: most people don't put a gui on a router00:48
zoredacheyou build a web-interface for something like that00:49
cppmonkeyits an actual PC, if you class an Via Epia PC as one... My mum uses it to surf the internet00:50
cppmonkeythats what eBox is for00:50
cppmonkeythe main reason im using a non server version is because im still learning the ropes. I did try Ubuntu Server but it didnt have wvdial and it didnt reconize my E220 modem00:51
idineonshitI LIKE TO DINE ON MY OWN SHIT03:18
idineonshitwindows xp is more lite than xubuntu\]'['03:22
idineonshitHAHAHA03:26
idineonshitXubuntu uses 298MB ram while xp uses 93MB on a clean install03:28
idineonshitProves XFCE and xubuntu suck03:29
idineonshitpeace out03:30
idineonshit!ops03:30
ubottuHelp! somerville32, maxamillion, TheSheep, crimsun, Gloubiboulga, Nalioth, Seveas, tonyyarusso,  PuMpErNiCkLe, apokryphos or gnomefreak03:30
idineonshit!ops03:30
idineonshit!ops03:31
homebrewciderhi there, small problem, I went to upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 via the alternate cd on 2 computers, 1 worked okay, the other, this one, seemed to go through the motions but still shows "upgrade available" at the update manager. When I click that "upgrade available" button, nothing seems to happen and it still shows  "upgrade available05:07
SpenderHey Can I use the latest xUbuntu 8.04 on xbox?05:21
fistelsorkhi, it seems my WPA key isn't saved in the network configuration. i have to enter it every time for the wireless net to work09:34
fistelsorkany ideas?09:36
kloshey whats the optimal hardware for xubuntu ???11:25
TheSheepklos: optimal for doing what?11:25
klosfor unning it properly :)11:28
klosive got an old ibm notebook here11:28
kloslive install system is a pain but im wondering if it works better when its installed11:28
TheSheepit does, especially with low ram11:30
TheSheepbut most of the time it's the actual application you are rnning that requires certain hardware11:30
TheSheepso it depends on what you do11:30
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homebrewciderhi there, small problem, I went to upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 via the alternate cd on 2 computers, 1 worked okay, the other, this one, seemed to go through the motions but still shows "upgrade available" at the update manager. When I click that "upgrade available" button, nothing seems to happen and it still shows "upgrade available13:10
TheSheephomebrewcider: what does 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' show?13:11
homebrewcider<The following packages are unused and will be REMOVED:13:12
homebrewcider  amaya-data libraptor1 libwww-ssl013:12
homebrewcider0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 3 to remove and 0 not upgraded.13:12
homebrewciderNeed to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 8770kB will be freed.13:12
homebrewciderDo you want to continue? [Y/n/?]13:12
homebrewcider>13:12
TheSheepuse pastebin next time %)13:13
homebrewcideryeah sorry13:14
TheSheeplooks like it wants to remove some packages that re not in 8.04 anymore13:14
homebrewcidershall I click yes13:15
TheSheepdepends on what you want to achieve :)13:16
TheSheepyou need these packages?13:16
homebrewciderI did, I'll see what happens13:16
TheSheepfamous last words13:17
homebrewciderhehe13:18
homebrewciderhttp://pastebin.ca/105636213:18
TheSheepthis apstebin sure is slow13:19
TheSheeplooks good13:20
homebrewciderhmm13:22
homebrewciderlooks good?13:23
TheSheepyeah13:23
TheSheepshould be fixed now13:23
homebrewciderso I try upgrading again?13:25
homebrewcideris that what you mean?13:25
TheSheepno, it's fully upgraded already13:30
TheSheepthe zeroes say so13:30
homebrewcideroh, it still says upggrade available on the update manager page13:31
TheSheepmust be bug in the update manager13:34
homebrewciderok cheers13:34
homebrewciderthanx13:34
homebrewciderthe appearance of this computer didn't change, the other one, I did 2, changed markedly, different login screen13:35
TheSheephmm... what does /etc/apt/sources.list say, feisty or hardy?13:37
homebrewciderchecking13:38
homebrewcidertop line says   >   deb cdrom:[Xubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016)]/ gutsy main restricted13:39
TheSheephm... so it didn't add the hardy cd as a source13:40
TheSheepor are there other lines?13:40
homebrewciderI'll pastebin the whole lot if you want13:41
homebrewciderhttp://pastebin.ca/105638613:43
TheSheephomebrewcider: no hardy anywhere13:48
homebrewciderexactly, that's my point, it seems to have done nothing13:49
homebrewciderbut I did exactly the same as for the opther computer13:49
TheSheephomebrewcider: you could try to add the cd as software source manually, with the software sources tool13:49
homebrewciderok13:50
homebrewciderA distribution volume with software packages has been detected.13:51
homebrewciderWould you like to try to upgrade from it automatically?13:51
homebrewciderwhat I got last time13:51
TheSheepfun13:51
homebrewciderstart ppackage manager? or run upgrade?13:51
TheSheepno idea13:52
homebrewciderseems I'm gonna say those famous last workds again13:53
homebrewciderok, i'll give it a shot13:53
homebrewciderthanx13:53
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MrNazi'm using transmission bittorrent client. i can get 500kb/s+ to an ftp site, but my torrents never go over about 100kb/s even when i have many loaded14:01
MrNazi've got the outgoing data speed limited at about half my connection speed14:01
MrNazis transmission just a poor implementation or could there be something else at work ?14:02
spasticteapotIs there a tutorial anywhere for reducing the RAM use of Xubuntu?14:07
spasticteapotI've been told Evolution is a RAM-hog - can it be safely removed?14:07
Myrttisince when has evolution been installed with xubuntu?14:07
Myrttior are you talking about evolution-data-servers or such?14:07
MrNazspasticteapot if you need lower usage than xubuntu then realistically, ubuntu isnt really what you're after14:16
MrNaztry perhaps a base debian install with fluxbox14:16
MrNazi havent tried it but its supposed to be lean and mean14:18
firsmHi, I'm trying to get the video thumbnailer working for thunar, I've installed ffmpegthumbnailer, the .desktop is correctly placed under /usr/share/thumbnailers and ffmpegthumbnailer -i video.avi -o test.png works correctly as well, but thunar still doesn't show any video thumbnails - any ideas?14:25
TheSheepfirsm: maybe you must first delete all the failed thumbnails14:26
firsmTheSheep: I deleted ~/.thumbnails, but that didn't help14:28
firsmeh, works after having ran thunar-vfs-update-thumbnailers-cache-1 :-)14:30
firsm*run14:30
* TheSheep makes a note14:30
firsmthunar rocks, hehe14:34
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CGI353has anyone here experienced problems using vuze after switching to the classic interface?16:02
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mortal1does xubuntu really use that much less ram than ubuntu?  honestly I haven't noticed much of a diff between the two16:08
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mortal1though, perhaps xub is a little faster16:08
TheSheepmortal1: you can make it use less16:13
TheBlackMessiahservus16:48
TheBlackMessiahich hätte mal ne frage und zwar16:48
TheBlackMessiahWIe kann ich mit xubuntu live auf die festplatte zugreifen?16:48
TheSheep!de | TheBlackMessiah16:49
ubottuTheBlackMessiah: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de16:49
TheBlackMessiahdanke16:49
wozz"German speaking help for problems with ubuntu, kubuntu and edubuntu, find yourself in the channels..."16:51
wozzoh german, you so crazy16:51
TheSheepwozz: can I help you?16:52
TheSheep:)16:52
wozznay16:53
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lewisrjchey, so I am getting a problem with xfce20:22
lewisrjcwhen I log in it gives me a blue background and no panels20:24
lewisrjchmm, so you have to manually launch xfce4-panel?20:26
lewisrjcwerid20:26
lewisrjc/werid/weird20:28
Riottalewisrjc: let me ask you one question did you installed xubuntu-desktop meta package or... you used xubuntu install cd to install xfce20:34
lewisrjcxubuntu-desktop20:38
lewisrjcit works now, I had to manually start the xubuntu panels, and then log off with that running20:38
lewisrjcwhich saved the start that up at login20:38
mrwislrhi everyone21:43
mrwislrhaving some trouble with firefox and xubuntu21:43
mrwislrit seems that when i'm downloading a file, usually a document,  it does not give the option to "open with"  it only gives me the option to save the file or cancel.... i tried installing firefox-gnome-support   which was suggested but with no luck         anyone know how to solve this problem?21:45
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mrwislranyone had that trouble with firefox?21:59
TheSheepmrwislr: network-mounted home directory?22:00
TheSheepmrwislr: ah, sorry, ignore me22:01
xbitcarryGood day.22:27
TheSheephel-lo xbitcarry22:29
xbitcarryTheSheep.... nice nick...22:30
GenelykHi22:33
xbitcarryGenelyk.22:33
FunkyWyrmHiya folks. I've tried linux distributions before but always failed :( It seems I might fail with Xubuntu also... I can't seem to get it to install on my old laptop22:37
FunkyWyrmIt's a Sony qr10 with 320Mb RAM, 650 celeron processor and 10Gb hard drive so there should be no problems. The desktop boot disk checks out ok but seems to hang soon after I select Install from the main window22:39
Odd-rationaleFunkyWyrm: have you tried the alternative install cd?22:39
Odd-rationale!alternative22:40
ubottuThe Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal - Torrent at http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent22:40
Odd-rationalewhoops, ubottu has the wrong link...22:40
FunkyWyrmok. will try that... ran out of blank cds trying to get a decent image though22:40
FunkyWyrm:S22:41
xbitcarryI'll back...22:41
FunkyWyrmThanks for the advice on the alternate cd. Was just wondering if this ws a common problem.22:42
FunkyWyrm*was22:42
Odd-rationalehttp://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/hardy/release/xubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso22:42
Odd-rationalethere is the correct link...22:42
Odd-rationalehere is for all download options: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/hardy/release/22:43
FunkyWyrmThanks. I'll bookmark it.22:43
Odd-rationalenp22:43
xbitcarryYas'ta.23:10
xbitcarryI need a little help.23:12
Odd-rationale!ask23:12
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)23:12
xbitcarryJa ja ja, ok, I'm thinking how to explain, because I don't speak english well, je je je23:14
xbitcarryOk.23:14
xbitcarryI work in a office.23:15
xbitcarryI'm using xubuntu.23:15
xbitcarryAnd we have a printer (samsung 1610) but it's shared with xp in other machine.23:15
xbitcarryI tried to configure it using CUPS (127.0.0.1:631) but I don't find it in the network.23:16
xbitcarryIn fact, I don't know if i have configured network!23:17
xbitcarryI've installed SAMBA, but I don't know how to probe if the network is working.23:17
Odd-rationalehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP23:18
Odd-rationalewhoops. wrong one...23:18
xbitcarryBy the way, I'm using xubuntu 6.10 LTS.23:18
Odd-rationalexbitcarry: try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPPrinter23:20
xbitcarryOk, let me see...23:21
xbitcarryThnak's for the link.23:21
xbitcarryUps, in xubuntu I don't have the printers menú, only  in CUPS, but ask me for user and pass, i've tried with my user and pass and isn't.23:27
xbitcarryI've tried with guest and not work.23:28
Odd-rationalexbitcarry: well, i really don't have much experience with network printing... sorry...23:29
xbitcarryOk, Odd-rationale, thank's anyway.23:30
xbitcarrySomeonce else?23:30
xbitcarryubottu?23:31
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xbitcarryJa ja ja23:33
xbitcarryNice...23:33
xbitcarryTheSheep?23:34
xbitcarrylanXX?23:34
TheSheepxbitcarry: no, sorry, I hate cups23:34
zoredachexbitcarry: printing is a fairly generic issue... you could ask in #ubuntu23:34
TheSheepI think there are some manuals23:34
TheSheepon xubuntuguide23:34
floatinghow can i check or install if i miss some of the files listed in http://up.k10x.net/vlteuhgdqxrow/readme.txt23:59

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