[00:02] <Xand3r> hey, pleas review my package http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=kiconedit
[00:05] <Xand3r> Riddell: can you review it?
[00:06] <Riddell> ok
[00:07] <Riddell> Xand3r: hmm, you made an entirely new package
[00:07] <Riddell> there's an existing package that you should have used
[00:07] <Xand3r> shit
[00:07] <Xand3r> i am so tired
[00:07] <Riddell> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/kiconedit/4:4.0.80-0ubuntu2
[00:08] <Riddell> grab that and copy over the debian directory
[00:08] <Xand3r> hmm
[00:16] <Xand3r> Riddell: now i have it overwritten and now?
[00:17] <Xand3r> please help me becaus i am tired an i dont want to do somethin useless and dont find an end
[00:17] <Riddell> Xand3r: dch -i  test it compiles  make a source package  upload to revu
[00:17] <Xand3r> dch -i?
[00:18] <Riddell> adds a changelog entry
[00:19] <Xand3r> what i have to paste?
[00:19] <Xand3r> new upstream version?
[00:22] <Xand3r> Riddell: set the maintainer to me?
[00:23] <Riddell> change the version number as appropriate in changelog
[00:23] <Riddell> don't change maintainer, it's not important
[00:24] <Xand3r> ok
[00:26] <Xand3r> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23216/
[00:26] <Riddell> that looks fine
[00:26] <Xand3r> k
[00:26] <Xand3r> thx
[00:26] <Riddell> test it compiles
[00:26] <Xand3r> ok
[00:26] <Riddell> make source package
[00:26] <Riddell> upload to revu
[00:28] <Xand3r> kk
[00:40] <Xand3r> Riddell: i think it is up
[00:43] <Riddell> Xand3r: you tested it compiles?
[00:43] <Xand3r> jes
[00:43] <Xand3r> yes
[00:43] <Xand3r> with pdebuild
[00:43] <Riddell> great
[00:43] <Riddell> uploading
[00:43] <Xand3r> but wait
[00:44] <Xand3r> lintian of the deb sais that tere is no man page for the bin
[00:44] <Xand3r> but there is one
[00:45] <Xand3r> so what i have to do?
[00:47] <Riddell> Xand3r: does it get installed into the .deb?
[00:49] <Xand3r> hmm
[00:50] <Riddell> if not put "debian/kiconedit.1" into debian/manpages and recompile
[00:50] <Xand3r> Riddell: that are the dirs in doc http://paste.ubuntu.com/23219/
[00:51] <Riddell> no manpage there
[00:51] <Xand3r> doesnt seem to be an man in it
[00:51] <Riddell> if that manpages file fixes it, dch -i; debuild -S; dput revu ..
[00:51] <Xand3r> but i didnt changed something
[00:52] <Riddell> put "debian/kiconedit.1" into debian/manpages
[00:52]  * Riddell offline for a bit, CD testing
[01:04] <Xand3r> Riddell: to put the kiconedit.1 in a manpages dir didnt changes anything
[01:04] <Riddell> not a directory
[01:04] <Riddell> just a file called manpages which contains a single line
[01:04] <Riddell> debian/kiconedit.1
[01:05] <Xand3r> oh ok
[01:07] <Xand3r> i building now, this take some time with pbuilder
[01:15] <Xand3r> Riddell: i think that litle trick has fixed it
[01:15] <Xand3r> i hope
[01:16] <Riddell> groovy
[01:16] <Xand3r> mom i past the less
[01:17] <Xand3r> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23220/
[01:18] <Xand3r> Riddell: what you thinking abaut?
[01:18] <Xand3r> *about
[01:19] <Riddell> looks perfect Xand3r
[01:19] <Riddell> debuild -S
[01:19] <Riddell> dput..
[01:19] <Xand3r> -sa
[01:19] <Xand3r> kk
[01:19] <Riddell> no -sa needed
[01:20] <Riddell> that adds the .orig to the upload but it has already been uploaded
[01:21] <Xand3r> oh ok
[01:21] <Xand3r> but it is to late, i noticed it for the next time
[01:22] <Xand3r> its up now
[01:23] <Riddell> Xand3r: I need to go to bed, I'll get it in the morning, thanks
[01:24] <Xand3r> i have to thank
[01:24] <Xand3r> gn8
[03:31] <harolddong> dolphin crashes with using file menus or when right clicking on blank space within the file manager
[03:32] <harolddong> is anybody else having this problem?
[04:37] <Gosu> hi
[04:39] <Gosu> somebody alive here?
[04:40]  * Hobbsee waves a hand vaguely
[04:52] <Gosu> how i can directly scaner control under win32? trough usbscan.sys without TWAIN and where i can get scaner low lewel instructions docs?
[04:54] <Hobbsee> surely somewhere like ##windows is a better place to ask that.
[06:38] <\sh> argl
[06:38] <\sh> someone fcked python-kde4 up
[08:27] <Arby> Riddell: kgrab and kgraphviewer merged. files on lichts
[09:42] <Riddell> Arby: thanks, kiconedit was done also
[10:06] <\sh> Riddell: is pykdeextensions usable for pykde4?
[10:09] <\sh> apachelogger: something is really weird with pykde4
[10:09] <\sh> there are files missing
[10:09] <\sh> but symlinks are set somehow
[10:11] <Arby>  Riddell: kio-gopher done
[10:11] <\sh> e.g. /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/PyKDE4/ :  indexof.py -> /usr/share/pyshared/PyKDE4/indexof.py pykdeconfig.py -> /usr/share/pyshared/PyKDE4/pykdeconfig.py etc. whereas the .pyc files are installed
[10:28] <apachelogger> \sh: cool
[10:29] <\sh> apachelogger: pyqtconfig is also missing :)
[10:29]  * apachelogger sense a headache
[10:30] <apachelogger> well, first shower
[10:30] <\sh> hmm
[10:38] <Riddell> \sh: no
[10:38] <Riddell> there's no pykdeextensions
[10:48] <Arby> anybody able to tell me what that means --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23270/
[10:48] <Arby> in the context of kopete-cryptography failing to build
[10:53] <Riddell> Arby: there's a header file it can't find I expect
[10:53] <Riddell> look in FindKopete.cmake and see what .h file it wants
[10:54] <Arby> ok
[10:55] <\sh> Riddell: it needs to be ported to new world order for kde4
[10:55] <\sh> at least the kdedistutils
[10:56] <Riddell> cmake works fine for me
[10:59] <Arby> Riddell: there is no file FindKopete.cmake. There is CMakeLists.txt
[10:59] <Arby> changing find_package(Kopete REQUIRED) to find_package(Kopete-kde4 REQUIRED)
[10:59] <Arby> gets me alittle further
[10:59] <Arby> does that make sense?
[11:00] <Riddell> Arby: no /usr/share/kde4/apps/cmake/modules/FindKopete.cmake ?
[11:01] <Arby> are we talking about the source tree here or the main system?
[11:01] <Riddell> main system
[11:02] <Arby> ah, my bad I misunderstood
[11:02] <Riddell> it's part of kdelibs5-dev
[11:02] <Riddell> and seems to be searching for kopete/kopete_export.h
[11:04] <Arby> ok found it now
[11:07] <Arby> hmm, why would it fail to find that?
[11:07] <Arby> kopete is installed
[11:07] <Arby> kdelibs5-dev is installed
[11:08] <Arby> could there be a path set wrongly somewhere?
[11:09] <Riddell> where is kopete/kopete_export.h?
[11:09] <Arby> I have no idea, that's the point. I only just managed to find FindKopete.cmake
[11:10] <Arby> where would header files normally go
[11:10] <Riddell> it is in kdenetwork-dev?
[11:11] <Arby> looking
[11:15] <smarter> Riddell: g-p-m now builds fine on amd64 with latest python-kde4, could you please upload it?
[11:15] <Riddell> smarter: where is it?
[11:16] <\sh> smarter: did you include all the fixes from my ppa pykde4 package?
[11:16] <Riddell> Arby: I see it in /usr/include/kopete/kopete_export.h in kdenetwork-dev
[11:16] <\sh> smarter: even the symlinks from apachelogger? :)
[11:16] <Riddell> Arby: so if you build-dep on kdenetwork-dev it should work
[11:16] <Arby> right thanks, would take me forever to find that
[11:17] <smarter> \sh: I didn't touched python-kde4, I just built gpm today and it's working :)
[11:17] <smarter> *touch
[11:17] <\sh> apachelogger: could you do me the pleasure and fix pykde4 for ppa? :)
[11:17] <smarter> Riddell: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/guidance/powermanager-ubuntu
[11:19] <Arby> Riddell: hmm, it already build-deps on kdenetwork-dev-kde4 is that older or newer than kdenetwork-dev
[11:19] <Arby> I can't keep up with all the name changes
[11:21] <Arby> well either way it seems to work
[11:21] <Arby> now it's moaning about lack of kdepim
[11:21] <Arby> again
[11:24] <Riddell> Arby: that's the old name
[11:24] <Arby> thanks
[11:25] <apachelogger> \sh: ah.... couldn't some just fix that upstream :S
[11:26] <\sh> apachelogger: for the "standalone" pykde4 everything was allright...I wonder why the kdebindings pykde4 is bugging
[11:26] <apachelogger> probably the same reason as for all the other languages
[11:26] <apachelogger> heavy cmake tuning
[11:27] <\sh> grrr
[11:28] <apachelogger> well
[11:28] <apachelogger> kdebindings is the new plasma :S
[11:28] <Arby> Riddell: could you sanity check something
[11:28] <Arby> k-c failed with http://paste.ubuntu.com/23277/
[11:28] <Arby> so I edited Kdepim to kdepim in FindKdepim.cmake
[11:28] <Arby> and it appears to fix the error
[11:29] <Arby> does that seem reasonable
[11:29] <Arby> or did I do something odd
[11:29] <apachelogger> \sh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23278/
[11:29] <apachelogger> right?
[11:30] <Riddell> Arby: hmm, is there a kdepim .pc file?
[11:30] <Arby> where?
[11:30] <\sh> apachelogger: yepp
[11:31] <Arby> roughly
[11:31] <apachelogger> \sh: anything else?
[11:31] <\sh> apachelogger: the amd64 dl patch? in __init__.py?
[11:31] <apachelogger> already in
[11:31] <\sh> ok
[11:31] <apachelogger> at least in intrepid
[11:31] <\sh> then go
[11:31] <\sh> ppa is important ;)
[11:31] <apachelogger> \sh: intrepid is more important
[11:32] <apachelogger> otherwise we forget to merge the changes and have to do all that stuff all over again
[11:32] <\sh> make two uploads then ;)
[11:32]  * apachelogger is wondering how big kde4bindings is anyway
[11:32] <apachelogger> someone might have to sponsor my upstream bandwith isn't the awesomest ;-)
[11:34] <Arby> Riddell: not anywhere obvious. for a small value of obvious
[11:35] <\sh> apachelogger: do you need a new tarball? :)
[11:35] <apachelogger> \sh: new tarball is probably even more broken
[11:35] <Arby> Riddell: locate kdepim | grep pc doesn't find it either
[11:36] <apachelogger> Arby, Riddell: maybe we just don't install it?
[11:37] <Arby> apachelogger: install what kopete-cryptography or the .pc file?
[11:37] <Arby> whatever a .pc file does?
[11:38] <\sh> pkg-config
[11:38] <Arby> thanks
[11:38] <apachelogger> hm
[11:38] <apachelogger> as a matter of fact
[11:38] <apachelogger> Arby: is pkg-config actually pulled in by the build-deps?
[11:38] <Arby> looking
[11:40] <apachelogger> Riddell: http://aplg.kollide.net/kubuntu/kde4bindings/kde4bindings_4.0.83+svn823405-0ubuntu7_to_ubuntu8.debdiff
[11:40] <Arby> apachelogger: the build-deps are http://paste.ubuntu.com/23279/
[11:40] <Arby> nothing saying pkg-config
[11:41] <apachelogger> Arby: well, check the build log ;-)
[11:41] <gnomefreak> pkg-config isnt brought in by anything from what it looks like
[11:42] <gnomefreak> its not part of build-essential but im not sure the package you are working on
[11:42] <apachelogger> emonkey: which form of travel should I use?
[11:43] <emonkey> apachelogger, ask scotty for beaming
[11:43] <emonkey> would be the fastest way
[11:43] <apachelogger> that would be indeed most reasonable
[11:43]  * apachelogger actually thinks train travel is a bit awkwardish these weeks
[11:44] <apachelogger> though probably also very international ;-)
[11:44] <Riddell> Arby: do you have /usr/share/kde4/apps/cmake/modules/FindKdepim.cmake ?
[11:44] <Arby> apachelogger: apparently not pulled in
[11:44] <emonkey> apachelogger, in Switzerland the trains are mostly very nice cooled down
[11:44] <Arby> Riddell: yes
[11:44] <emonkey> apachelogger, the zurich airport is 12min with S-Bahn from here
[11:44] <emonkey> s/S-Bahn/Intercity
[11:45] <apachelogger> hm, I am in 20 minutes at the airport in linz ;-)
[11:45] <Riddell> debian/not-installed:./usr/include/kdepimprotocols.h
[11:45] <Riddell> hum
[11:45] <Riddell> so it needs that packaged as part of kdepim
[11:46] <Arby> that sounds like trouble
[11:47] <Arby> Riddell: where did that not-installed info come from?
[11:48] <Riddell> Arby: kdepim package
[11:48] <Riddell> source package
[11:49] <Arby> oh OK, I thought there was something wrong with my debian directory
[11:49] <Arby> does that mean we need to re-package kdepim?
[11:49] <Arby> or is there a reason that is not installed
[11:50] <Riddell> only that it hasn't been needed yet
[11:50] <Riddell> if it's needed it shouldn't be hard to put the relevant files in a kdepim-dev package
[11:51] <Arby> depends on the value of hard, easy if you know how :)
[11:52] <Arby> I can try if you can explain what to do
[11:52] <Riddell> apt-get source kdepim
[11:52] <Arby> and it can be done in < 2h
[11:52] <Riddell> edit debian/control and add a kdepim-dev package
[11:53] <Riddell> in debian/kdepim-dev.install put all the header files and .so files listed in not-installed
[11:53] <Riddell> test it compiles (the long bit)
[11:53] <Riddell> add changelog
[11:53] <Riddell> voila
[11:53]  * Arby pokes apt-get into life
[11:58] <Arby> Riddell: should kdepim-dev have the same build deps as kdepim?
[11:58] <Arby> and iff not what should it have?
[11:58] <rafallo_> how can I use phonon in pyqt4 ?
[11:59] <Riddell> Arby: yes
[12:00] <Riddell> rafallo_: I don't think it's built with phonon yet
[12:01] <nixternal> good morning!
[12:01] <rafallo_> Riddell, it's a pity, thanks
[12:02] <Arby> Riddell: what do I need in debian/control besides this http://paste.ubuntu.com/23283/
[12:03] <Riddell> Arby: make the description more generic
[12:03] <Riddell> copy this http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/kdepim-dev
[12:04] <Riddell> Arby: also I believe binary:Version is better than source:Version, although I'm not too sure what the difference is
[12:04] <Arby> ok I just copied that from kdepim
[12:08] <Riddell> intrepid alpha 1 candidate CDs available for testing
[12:08] <Arby> is it that time already
[12:08] <nixternal> Riddell: which version of KDE 4 are they running?
[12:09] <Riddell> nixternal: beta 2
[12:09] <Riddell> alternates only
[12:09] <nixternal> groovy, you planning on releasing it soon, or can I test this weekend?
[12:10] <nixternal> I would love to re-image all of my machines and that might be the way to go
[12:10] <Riddell> I believe they're due to be released this european evening
[12:10] <nixternal> ahh, dang I don't have time right now to test
[12:11] <nixternal> Riddell: anything need to get done this weekend? I am home alone so I will have some free time
[12:11] <nixternal> plan on doing a couple of really long bike rides, but those are only a few hours (~6) long
[12:13] <Riddell> there might be hardy .1 images to test
[12:13] <nixternal> k, also need to get the Release Notes rocking again too
[12:13] <Riddell> yes, alpha 1 would benefit from them
[12:14] <nixternal> need to make some wiki updates
[12:14] <Riddell> salut Tonio_
[12:14] <nixternal> howdy Tonio_!!!
[12:14] <Tonio_> salut Riddell !
[12:14] <Tonio_> I should get an internet connection back this we....
[12:14] <Tonio_> I can't wait to have time to contribute a bit....
[12:14] <nixternal> hehe, you and I both Tonio_ :)
[12:15] <nixternal> new job is killing my time
[12:15] <Tonio_> nixternal: super congrats for going core !
[12:15] <nixternal> I miss hanging out here all day being a bum
[12:15] <nixternal> thanks!
[12:15] <Tonio_> nixternal: have plans or todo list on the kde4 side ?
[12:16] <nixternal> not yet, will work on all of that this weekend
[12:16] <nixternal> unless Riddell has some stuff he would like me to work on
[12:16] <Tonio_> I've been spending the last days looking at the packages and structure to get used to it since I focussed most of my effort towards to kde3 till now
[12:16] <nixternal> actually, a virtual keyboard for KDE 4 is in my sights right now
[12:17] <nixternal> I pretty much have the KDE 4 structure down...I will build from SVN this weekend to see where everything is at upstream to get an idea on how to prepare for us
[12:17] <Tonio_> so basically, next month = new appartment, and then kubuntu, kubutu and kubuntu again
[12:17] <nixternal> hehe
[12:17] <Tonio_> nixternal: I've been really impressed by the changes between beta1 and beta2....
[12:17] <Tonio_> amazing speed to get things grown up
[12:17] <nixternal> its funny...I could sit here all day on the computer, no problems
[12:17] <nixternal> but all day at work on the computer, when I come home, I don't want to get on it :?
[12:17] <nixternal> :/ rather
[12:18] <nixternal> my x-wife sent me an email this morning asking if I was ignoring her cuz I am not online at night :)
[12:19] <Tonio_> nixternal: that happens to me sometimes....
[12:19] <Tonio_> nixternal: for month I can feel the need to in front of the computer
[12:19] <nixternal> last night when I got home I went out for a really beautiful 25 mile bike ride into the sunset....I need to get a new camera that is smaller
[12:19] <Tonio_> nixternal: and for a short period that just makes me sick
[12:19] <nixternal> Tonio_: I think the problem is using Gnome at work all day makes me a little stoopid :P
[12:19] <Tonio_> nixternal: what I do is generally don't force myself to contribute, cause that would imply leaving one day for bad reason
[12:20] <Tonio_> nixternal: listening to ours needs is important to contribute on the long term
[12:20] <nixternal> right, that is why I plan on getting some stuff done this weekend
[12:20] <Tonio_> it is not the first time I take a break with ubuntu/kubuntu
[12:20] <Tonio_> not the first time I'll be back for month to finish the work too :)
[12:20] <nixternal> ya, I have never taken a break, and I don't want to, just that free time is limited due to the amount of travel to and from work
[12:21] <nixternal> plus, it is summer time here and it has been so nice outside and I have kind of been enjoying it a bit
[12:21] <nixternal> oh man, today starts the Taste of Chicago...that means the trains will be full for the next week :/
[12:26] <Riddell> Arby: your kfax package had hardy in the changelog
[12:26] <Arby> oops sorry
[12:26] <Arby> I'll rebuild when kdepim finishes
[12:26] <Arby> this may be some time :)
[12:27] <Riddell> Arby: no problem, I changed it and uploaded
[12:28] <Arby> oh ok, thanks :)
[13:46] <Riddell> stdin: patch for kdeedu http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/kubuntu_01_marble_fix.diff
[13:46]  * stdin uploads
[13:47] <Riddell> create a series file too of course
[13:47] <Riddell> apachelogger: how did you get on with the amarok merge?
[13:47] <stdin> yeah, I remembered from kde4bindings
[13:49] <apachelogger> Riddell: you really should read backlog ;-) .... I pushed already to launchpad
[13:49] <apachelogger> just needs a sanity check and upload
[13:50] <Riddell> ok
[13:51] <Riddell> apachelogger: does the debian maintainer still use bzr?
[13:52] <apachelogger> Riddell: SVN http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-kde/kde-extras/amarok/trunk/debian/?op=log&rev=0&sc=0&isdir=1
[13:52] <Riddell> right
[13:53] <apachelogger> btw, since I decided not to visit emonkey this weekend I have quite some time to do .... work :D
[13:57] <Riddell> up goes amarok
[13:58] <Riddell> so kfax was 4:3.5.9-0ubuntu1 and is now 4:3.3.6-kde4.0.83-0ubuntu1
[13:59] <Riddell> this makes launchpad unhappy
[13:59] <Riddell> 4:3.5.9really3.3.6-kde4.0.83-0ubuntu1 seems ugly
[14:00] <apachelogger> Riddell: epoch 5?
[14:00] <Hobbsee> they've downgraded version number?
[14:01] <Riddell> maybe, problem is if debian does something different
[14:01] <Riddell> it has moved to extragear and changed to using the internal version no the kde version
[14:03] <Riddell> Arby: kpovmodeler failed, probably needs libqt-opengl-dev added
[14:03] <Arby> Riddell: ok, still waiting on kdepim
[14:03] <Arby> will get to it eventually
[14:05] <Arby> Riddell: hang on a minute, I haven't done kpovmodeler yet
[14:06] <Arby> Riddell: that's the previous version
[14:06] <Arby> I'll fix it in 4.0.83 if no-one else gets there first
[14:06] <Riddell> great
[14:06] <Riddell> Arby: I've changed kfax to the elegant 4:3.5.9really3.3.6-kde4.0.83-0ubuntu1
[14:07] <Arby> I saw that, pretty :)
[14:10] <jeroen-> hi folks
[14:10] <jeroen-> I'm looking for the Kubuntu colorscheme for KDE4?
[14:11] <jeroen-> oh sorry wrong channel
[14:12] <Riddell> same as the KDE one
[14:14] <jeroen-> Riddell: yes I tried that, but I cant use my KDE3 colorscheme in KDE4
[14:14] <Arby> Riddell: stuck with kdepim it's complaining about
[14:14] <Arby> cp: cannot stat `debian/tmp//./usr/include/kaddressbook/interfaces/configurewidget.h': No such file or directory
[14:14] <Riddell> Arby: is there such a file?
[14:14] <Arby> when the file is clearly present at
[14:14] <Arby> kdepim/kdepim-4.0.83/kaddressbook/interfaces/
[14:15] <Arby> sorry kdepim/kdepim-4.0.83/kaddressbook/interfaces/configurewidget.h
[14:15] <Riddell> Arby: but is it under debian/tmp ?
[14:15] <stdin> Riddell: I notice there's no kdepim-dev package, and there's a load of .h files not installed
[14:15] <stdin> http://stdin.pastebin.com/d712671d9
[14:15] <Riddell> stdin: that's just what Arby is working on
[14:16] <Arby> stdin: guess what i'm doing now
[14:16] <Arby> Riddell: apparently it isn't
[14:16] <Riddell> stdin: it hasn't been needed yet, but kopete-crypto wants it
[14:16] <Arby> I thought debian/tmp was generated automatically
[14:16] <Riddell> Arby: so the kaddressbook devs have decided it shouldn't be installed, just remove from kdepim-dev.install
[14:16] <Arby> ok
[14:16] <Riddell> then run   dh_install --sourcedir=debian/tmp --list-missing
[14:17] <Riddell> which will check if the .install files match up to what's actually there
[14:17] <Riddell> once everything does match up
[14:17] <stdin> that paste ^ are the .h/.so files that aren't installed
[14:17] <Riddell> debuild -nc  to do a final build, make sure the kdepim-dev .deb is sane, send us a debdiff
[14:18] <Arby> Riddell: and if things don't match up do I remove them?
[14:18] <Arby> e.g kaddressbook/contacteditorwidget.h
[14:20] <Arby> quite a lot seems to not match actually
[14:20] <Riddell> Arby: yes
[14:21] <Riddell> you might be better just to empty kdepim-dev.install, run that command and add in the .h and .so files it lists
[14:29] <gribelu> does anyone know where i could report a bug related to planet.ubuntu.com ? rss 2.0 feed stopped working a few days ago :/
[14:30] <Hobbsee> ubuntu-website?
[14:30] <gribelu> humm.. that's an irc channel i guess?
[14:30] <Hobbsee> gribelu: that being said, mine appears to be working?
[14:30] <Hobbsee> no, it's a project on launchpad.
[14:30] <gribelu> http://planet.ubuntu.com/rss20.xml
[14:31] <gribelu> isn't it empty for you?
[14:31] <gribelu> http://planet.ubuntu.com/rss10.xml
[14:31] <gribelu> 1.0 works
[14:31] <selckin> worksforme
[14:31] <selckin> wget it
[14:31] <gribelu> maybe firefox is going nuts then
[14:31] <gribelu> and /or it's malformed
[14:31] <Hobbsee> it appears as blank for me, but it's definetly downloading more posts.
[14:32] <gribelu> i think it's malformed than.. the source isn't empty but firefox refuses to render it
[14:32] <apachelogger> hm
[14:33] <apachelogger> Riddell: sorry, I forgot to commit the manpages for amarok
[14:34] <apachelogger> Pushed up to revision 179.
[14:34] <selckin> akregator works
[15:08] <\sh> apachelogger: now you bugged everything ;)
[15:08] <\sh> shermann@wz-pc-010:~/workspace$ ls -la /usr/bin/pykdeuic4
[15:08] <\sh> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 38 2008-06-27 16:06 /usr/bin/pykdeuic4 -> ../share/kde4/apps/pykde4/pykdeuic4.py
[15:08] <\sh> which is wrong for ppa :)
[15:08] <apachelogger> hm
[15:08] <apachelogger> from a productivity point of view
[15:09] <apachelogger> letz burn kde4bindings beta2 and use beta1
[15:09] <\sh> why?
[15:09]  * \sh fixes it now
[15:10] <apachelogger> because I am pretty much fed up with the quality of kdebindings releases
[15:20] <Arby> Riddell: progress of sort
[15:20] <Arby> got kdepim to build now
[15:21] <Arby> but kdepim-dev won't install because it requires version 0ubuntu2 of all it's deps
[15:21] <Arby> which have been built and installed with dpkg
[15:21] <Arby> but are apparently invisible
[15:21] <Arby> because dpkg still thinks the system has 0ubuntu1
[15:22] <Arby> any suggestions?
[15:22] <Riddell> did you install them before kdepim-dev?
[15:22] <\sh> apachelogger: ppa11 is uploaded
[15:22] <Arby> Riddell: not at first no
[15:22] <apachelogger> \sh: :S that revision number makes me wonder
[15:22] <Arby> tried kdepim-dev, failed, installed deps tried again
[15:22] <Arby> failed again
[15:23] <Riddell> Arby: what does apt-get -f install do ?
[15:23] <Arby> testing
[15:23] <\sh> apachelogger: ppa10 was it before .)
[15:23] <Arby> it want's to remove kdepim and kdepim-dev among other things
[15:23] <apachelogger> \sh: yeah, that made me wonder as well
[15:23] <Arby> should I let it
[15:23] <Arby> ?
[15:24] <apachelogger> \sh: need 11 revisions to get one small portion of the complete module to work properly is .... pretty bad
[15:24] <apachelogger> which is exactly why I think the release quality of kdebindings needs to be improved
[15:24] <apachelogger> a lot
[15:24] <\sh> apachelogger: well, better to do it in a ppa...and not in our official archives
[15:25] <apachelogger> \sh: since the archives are more b0rked than the ppa... ;-)
[15:25] <stdin> apachelogger: I think I took up to ~ppa9 to get it to build
[15:25] <apachelogger> Riddell: can one use intrepid yet?
[15:25] <Arby> Riddell: apt-get doesn't help, it removes kdepim and kdepim-dev
[15:26]  * apachelogger thinks about formatting all disks
[15:26] <Arby> then I installed the deps of kdepim-dev again and got an identical error
[15:26] <\sh> shermann@wz-pc-010:~/workspace/leonov-kde$ kopete(10363) KXMLGUIClient::setXMLFile: cannot find .rc file "jabberchatui.rc" in "kopete/jabberchatui.rc"
[15:26] <\sh> kopete(10363) KXMLGUIClient::setXMLFile: cannot find .rc file "jabberchatui.rc" in "kopete/jabberchatui.rc"
[15:26] <\sh> kopete(10363) KXMLGUIClient::setXMLFile: cannot find .rc file "jabberchatui.rc" in "kopete/jabberchatui.rc"
[15:26] <\sh> kopete(10363) KXMLGUIClient::setXMLFile: cannot find .rc file "jabberchatui.rc" in "kopete/jabberchatui.rc"
[15:26] <\sh> ASSERT: "identityItemHash.contains(idnt)" in file /build/buildd/kdenetwork-kde4-4.0.83/kopete/kopete/config/accounts/kopeteaccountconfig.cpp, line 181
[15:26] <\sh> this is pretty bad
[15:26] <Riddell> apachelogger: today's daily CD working nicely for me
[15:27] <apachelogger> cool, thanks
[15:27] <Riddell> Arby: what does apt-cache policy kmail show ?
[15:27] <Arby> hmm, Installed: 4:4.0.83-0ubuntu2
[15:28] <Arby> that's odd
[15:28] <Arby> seems to be some confusion between apt, dpkg and me
[15:28] <apachelogger> \sh: maybe the env variables are messed up in that prompt?
[15:28] <\sh> apachelogger: nope
[15:28] <\sh> apachelogger: fresh install from ppa :)
[15:28] <apachelogger> kopete-kde4: /usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/apps/kopete_jabber/jabberchatui.rc
[15:28] <stdin> kopete starts fine for me
[15:28] <apachelogger> same here
[15:29] <\sh> apachelogger: via CLI?
[15:29] <apachelogger> \sh: as well
[15:29] <\sh> bah...this damn mixed up kde3/kde4 system...
[15:29] <Arby> Riddell: complete output of apt-cache policy kmail
[15:29] <Arby> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23313/
[15:30] <apachelogger> \sh: you should have used neon :P
[15:30] <\sh> apachelogger: nope..I should have upgraded to intrepid already ;)
[15:30]  * apachelogger is really looking forward to intrepid :)
[15:31] <\sh> or we should have never mixed it up in the first place
[15:31] <apachelogger> in fact, I could install kde4 on my laptop
[15:36] <Arby> Riddell: I'm out of time.
[15:36] <Riddell> Arby: looks like you have the right version installed
[15:36] <Arby> Riddell: I won't be able to work on this again until monday
[15:36] <Arby> I know
[15:36] <Arby> can't figure out what's wrong
[15:37] <Arby> Riddell: dpkg consistently reports this http://paste.ubuntu.com/23315/
[15:38] <Arby> which is a lie
[15:40] <Nightrose> anyone else getting dolphin to crash when hovering over a video file?
[15:41] <Nightrose> in 4.1 beta 2
[15:41] <apachelogger> yes
[15:41] <apachelogger> known issue
[15:42] <apachelogger> also happens for PDF IIRC
[15:42] <Nightrose> k
[15:42] <Riddell> Arby: all very strange.  however if it compiles it should be fine, send me the debdiff and I can upload
[15:42] <Nightrose> pdfs seem fine here
[15:43] <Riddell> or put the .diff.gz and .dsc on lichts
[15:43] <Arby> ok that's quicker
[15:43] <Arby> incoming
[15:44] <Arby> Riddell: the only diff.gz I have is for kdepim rather than kdepim-dev, is that right?
[15:45] <Riddell> Arby: yes
[15:45] <Riddell> since it's the source we care about
[15:47] <Arby> Riddell: something is wrong here, the diff is for 0ubuntu1
[15:47] <Arby> I think I've mangled something
[15:47] <Arby> I'll have to fix it later
[15:47] <Arby> I really really have to leave
[15:48] <Arby> meeting someone off a train
[15:48] <Arby> I hate leaving things half done
[15:48]  * Arby --> gone
[16:02] <Xand3r> hi @ all
[16:02] <Riddell> hi Xand3r
[18:24] <mitsarionas> hi... i just installed the latest kubuntu intrepid iso...should i file a report or something?
[18:27] <apachelogger> mitsarionas: report about what?
[18:27] <mitsarionas> on the iso testing tracker maybe...
[18:27] <Riddell> mitsarionas: I don't think it's being tracked on the testing website, just tell me what the build number and architecture was and how well it works
[18:28] <mitsarionas> it's the 20080627 alternate i386 one... installed just fine :)
[18:29] <apachelogger> hum
[18:29] <apachelogger> Riddell: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/
[18:29] <apachelogger> broken
[18:29] <Riddell> mitsarionas: excellent, thanks
[18:29] <Riddell> apachelogger: alternates only so far
[18:29] <Riddell> ubiquity not ready for alpha 1
[18:29] <apachelogger> ok
[18:29] <mitsarionas> np :)
[18:29]  * apachelogger downloads alternate
[18:29] <Riddell> mitsarionas: hardware or virtual install?
[18:29] <mitsarionas> hardware
[18:33] <Riddell> super
[18:34]  * apachelogger is wonder what happened to mhb
[18:35] <Riddell> I think he decided to move on to other opportunities
[18:36] <apachelogger> :|
[18:37] <Riddell> yes, a shame
[18:38] <jcastro> really?
[18:39] <seele> it wasn´t a girlfriend > coding decision?
[18:39] <apachelogger> well, I understand that he was pretty unhappy about not getting enough appreciation for his work
[18:39] <apachelogger> which is the shame really
[18:40] <seele> i dont know if that was really the primary reason, but ii think t did exasperate how he was feeling about contributing in general
[18:43]  * seele wonders where Artemis_Fowl has been..
[18:50] <Riddell> mitsarionas: seem we are tracking them, please add your result http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/all/all
[19:08] <mitsarionas> Riddell: i hope there's no rush, need to do something first :/
[19:09] <mitsarionas> i'll add it as soon as i can :)
[20:37] <james_w> Hi all.
[20:38] <james_w> I was wondering if amarok_play_audiocd.desktop should be/has been forwarded to Debian?
[20:39] <james_w> it seems like they would like to have it, unless I'm missing some reason why it wouldn't be applicable there.
[20:59] <Riddell> james_w: maybe one for apachelogger
[20:59] <james_w> thanks
[23:01] <apachelogger> Riddell: oxygen-cursor-theme is missing from the installation
[23:23] <mitsarionas> adept crashes as soon as it loads in my intrepid install... but i guess not just for me, right?
[23:27] <DASkreech> Intrepid installs KDE4 by default now?
[23:28] <mitsarionas> yeah
[23:31] <DASkreech> Sweet ;-) 4.1 ?
[23:32] <mitsarionas> yeah ;)
[23:33] <apachelogger> hum
[23:33] <apachelogger> indeed
[23:34]  * DASkreech grins. One step closer to 4.2 Remix Cds :)
[23:34] <apachelogger> it would be quite useful to have debug symbols for adept :P
[23:34] <apachelogger> meh
[23:34] <apachelogger> nvidia broken in intrepid
[23:34] <apachelogger> ah
[23:34] <apachelogger> I should have lived with hardy
[23:35] <DASkreech> I'm trying to
[23:35] <DASkreech> I keep running sstupid KDE 4.1 live CDs though :(
[23:36] <DASkreech> I'm going to try and stick on Hardy till Koffice starts shipping betas
[23:38] <mitsarionas> there's also some weird bug in kdesudo or something...it seems like it wants the root password
[23:38] <apachelogger> mitsarionas: yeah, on my todo
[23:38] <mitsarionas> :D
[23:39] <DASkreech> Riddell: ping
[23:40] <DASkreech> when LinuxMCE announced the KDE partnership and they were shipping on Kubuntu discs was that just with KDE or were they partnering with Kubuntu as well?
[23:44] <apachelogger> oh, I see the light, my home tarball transfer is finishing soon :D
[23:44] <mitsarionas> one more thing... dolphin seems to freak out when i hover over gzip'ed files... but i guess that too is already on someone's todo :)
[23:46] <supert0nes> thats me for either rar or video
[23:49] <mitsarionas> just checked, it was the information panel that did it... closed it and now no problem
[23:51] <apachelogger> that is a bug in beta2
[23:56] <mitsarionas> apart from a few things, it's pretty usable though... guess in a month or so i'll switch entirely to intrepid :)