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Midspeedhow dwidmann?00:00
dwidmannright click the panel, configure .....00:00
Midspeedok im there whats next?00:00
dwidmanntaskbar, show windows from all desktops00:01
Midspeedthankis, lovely00:01
Midspeedthanks alot dwidmann00:02
dwidmannyou're welcome Midspeed00:02
Midspeedok im outta here thanks againa dwidmann00:03
dwidmannhave a good one00:03
kirkthey guys im running 7.10, how would i install the latest eclipse? apt-get gave me 3.200:17
Tecumsehkirkt, you can install the backports repository for that00:19
kirkthow would i do that00:21
TecumsehI'm searching for a guide to that00:22
kirktgreat, appreciate that00:22
Tecumsehhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports00:22
kirktim guessing downloading the zip and unpacking isn't really recommended in linux00:22
Tecumsehyou will want to enable pinning00:23
Tecumsehthis won't give you the newest version though, I'll give you the version that is in the current stable (hardy heron)00:23
flauozsalve a tutti come faccio a entrare nel canale di alghero00:23
flauoz?00:23
PhilRod!it | flauoz00:25
ubottuflauoz: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!00:25
MachinTrucChoseHi00:34
MachinTrucChoseCan someone help me out with Samba? I have Konqueror open, I right-click a folder in my /home/user directory, I select "Share", I then enable Samba, select the user, but after I click OK, the share options have disappeared. If I go back to the Share properties it's as if I didn't change anything.00:35
aldo_hi00:36
aldo_helloooo00:36
MachinTrucChoseanyone?00:38
matissehi01:10
matissewhen gtk-gnutella finds a host with a private ip (192.168.... f.e.) does that mean, the host is in my local network ?01:11
Agent_bob192.168.0.0/16 is a reserved ip range. yes01:12
matissebut why doesnt show the correct Ip ?01:13
matissewe all have public ips in this network01:13
Agent_bobdefine "correct ip" ?01:13
matissethe public ip01:14
Agent_bobbecause you are not looking at it from the world side of the gateway.01:14
matisseis their a way, to get the public ip ?01:15
matisses/their/there01:15
Agent_bobyes, you look at the box from the "other side of the gateway"   here's a script... http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d7e51300001:17
Agent_bobor if you want the public ip's of other boxen on your intranet,  host might get that for you.   idk.01:18
Agent_bobyeah host can do it.01:19
matissehost ?01:19
Agent_bob!info host01:20
ubottuhost (source: host): utility for querying DNS servers. In component universe, is extra. Version 20000331-9 (hardy), package size 69 kB, installed size 168 kB01:20
matisseok01:20
Agent_bobthere is progably a "GUI" app that can do that as well.  check thy package database01:22
byterQuit01:23
Level15hello. I updated nvidia drivers to nvidia-glx-new and now nothing shows on my laptop's screen. Xorg.0.log says there is no display attached. anyone has encountered this?01:35
lyndon_hi hi01:39
WaYhello01:40
WaYhow can I manage now kbluetooth? konqueror kde4 doesn't supports bluetooth protocol01:40
lyndon_hey way01:40
bAgent_boi bziped gziped tared and fethered an empth file to see how much each adds,  here are the results.    boo 0B    boo.bz2 14B    boo.gz 24B    boo.tar 10240B    boo.tgz 109B01:43
Agent_bobwhat are some other cool numbers ?    like 1>  is stdout   2> is stderr    ????01:59
Agent_boblooks like 0 1 2 3 5 7 & 255 are in most process lists...  anyone know what they are ?02:03
Agent_bob0 is prolly stdin02:03
Agent_bobsome processes also have 4 & 6 i see02:04
stdinls -l /proc/<pid>/fd  should tell you what they are02:04
Agent_bobthey all point at /dev/pts/0  except 7 it's a pipe02:05
stdinso they are all streams to the terminal02:06
Agent_bobhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d70069bd802:07
Agent_bobhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d1ea982e2 < that one is more reasonable02:09
Agent_bobthe second is the parent of the first02:09
Agent_bobfirst is mc second is the shell that called it02:10
Agent_bobso.   what exactly does 3 do ?   it's /dev/tty   ?02:11
Agent_bobwould 3 be usable ?02:11
Agent_bobi guess not...    openvt -- echo boo >[[:num:]] all work alike it seems02:14
stdinnot sure what 3 does, or 502:16
Agent_boboh well.  i don't need new tricks anyway.02:18
Agent_bobi can't seem to get anything useful out of them.02:18
Agent_bobls02:25
Agent_bobstdin how do you read a socket ?02:27
stdinyou can't really, it's a type of local network port02:27
Agent_bobcan't cat or dd or anything ?02:28
stdindepends on the type of socket, some have a file you can read from/write to, others are just like network sockets02:28
* Agent_bob goes looking for an app to read sockets02:29
stdinusually the ones that say 'socket[some-number]' are more like tcp/udp ports02:29
Agent_bobthere has to be something that can sniff a tcp/udp ports butt02:30
* Agent_bob looks for a dog app02:30
stdinthey are like tcp/udp, but they aren't02:31
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Agent_bobmaybe i really shouldn't play around in /proc   i might delete /proc/kcore or something....02:35
Agent_bob:)02:35
Agent_bobroot02:38
Agent_bobwho you root'en for ?02:38
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Agent_bob!ircasroot02:39
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ircasroot02:39
MachinTrucChoseHi. Anyone have any ideas why Share options set in Konqueror don't take effect? I click OK, then go back, and everything's back to the way it was. It's files from my home directory so it can't be a write permissions thing.02:43
MachinTrucChosedo I need to run Konqueror as root to share a home folder?02:43
Agent_bobIt's files from my home directory so it can't be a write permissions thing. <<<   yes it can.  permissions in your home can be anything, just like in any other dir.      and konq as root is generally a bad idea but, it can be done.02:45
Agent_bobif you mean you have checked and are sure it's not a permissions issue, then ok.   but just stating that it can't be because it's in your home is ludicrazyist02:47
MachinTrucChosewell, running Konqueror as root does not erase any of my share settings. So that had to be it.02:48
* Agent_bob sujests MachinTrucChose "own his home" then.02:48
MachinTrucChosefolder's permissions was "Owner can view and modify content", "Group can view content", and "Others are forbidden"02:48
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Agent_bobMachinTrucChose how did you run konq as root please ?02:49
SeanTaterOut of curiosity, does anyone here use X11 Tunnelling over SSH?02:49
MachinTrucChoseAgent: sudo konqueror02:49
jhutchinsbad.02:49
Agent_bobMachinTrucChose that's why.02:49
jhutchins!kdesu | MachinTrucChose02:49
ubottuMachinTrucChose: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)02:49
Agent_bobMachinTrucChose never use sudo for konq.  use kdesu or kdesudo02:50
MachinTrucChoseoh shi02:50
MachinTrucChosewell logically, why would I even need to sudo up?02:50
jhutchinsMachinTrucChose: As long as you didn't change any settings, you may still be able to use your system.02:50
MachinTrucChoseit's my house!02:50
MachinTrucChosewell, I did enable Samba sharing, then disable it.02:50
Agent_bobMachinTrucChose and own your home now.     sudo chown -R $USER $HOME02:50
jhutchinsMachinTrucChose: You will eventually understand.02:51
MachinTrucChoseI just did, and it still doesn't safve the share options02:51
MachinTrucChoseright-click folder, click Share tab, check "Share this folder", check "Share with Samba", click OK to close properties window, go back there again...and back to square 1.02:52
Odd-rationaleshouldn't it be "sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME" ?02:52
MachinTrucChoseI'm the owner of this folder anyway.02:52
Agent_bobOdd-rationale that assumes default group   i don't02:53
elbasanhey guys I am new on linux and I need help to install firefox-3.0.tar.bz202:53
Agent_bobMachinTrucChose it's the config that might not be yours now.   not the folder.  you can't save to a local config you don't own.02:53
MachinTrucChoseelbasan: use the Add/Remove Program option to install it instead.02:53
Odd-rationaleelbasan: try installing from adept or apt-get instead02:53
MachinTrucChoseAgent_bob: oh, I see. Well, I ran your recursive chown command as you suggested and that does not appear to have fixed anything.02:54
elbasanI try to use add/remove and I get only firefox202:54
MachinTrucChoseelbasan: what version of Kubuntu?02:54
Odd-rationaleelbasan: try updating you repos. or maybe you have a slow mirror...02:54
elbasanthe 8.1002:55
Agent_bobMachinTrucChose k,   close konq and reopen  help anything now ?02:55
elbasanups 8.0402:55
billydFirefox 3 that is listed maybe the beta.  I have beta and get no notice that I need to upgrade though I know FF 3.0.?? is avaiolable some place02:55
MachinTrucChoseAgent_bob: nope. I also tried closing it and reopening 3 times to bypass any "preloaded instances" .02:56
elbasanI tryed02:56
elbasan$ cd /tmp02:56
elbasan $ wget 'http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0&os=linux&lang=en-US'02:56
elbasannot working02:56
elbasanfor me02:57
billydTry using Adept and see whatversion of FF is listed02:57
elbasan# cp /tmp/firefox-3.0.tar.bz2 .02:57
elbasan # tar -jxvf firefox-3.0.tar.bz202:57
elbasannot working02:57
billydIf it is avilable through Adept it will be much simpler02:58
Agent_bobMachinTrucChose umm im thinking a group issue maybe    are you in samba group ?     not sure you have to be.  would rather someone else jump in.02:58
elbasanI download firefox on my desktop02:58
billydYou may need to turn off the CD and then open up all the other repositories in Adept02:58
MachinTrucChoseAgent_bob: yep, I'm part of sambashare02:58
elbasannow what I have to do02:59
Agent_bobok then.   what version kde MachinTrucChose ?02:59
Agent_bob3.5* ?02:59
MachinTrucChoseAgent_bob: 3.5 (Hardy)02:59
Agent_bobyeah k.02:59
billydelbasan - I think you're going about loading FF the HARd way.  You will need to get Adept or APt working eventually.02:59
MachinTrucChoseI already gave up on KDE's share module and started building my own smb.conf, then gave up on that and am coming back like an abused wife. I think I'll try my hand at smb.conf again.03:00
elbasanhow03:00
billydBRB03:01
elbasan?03:01
Agent_bobMachinTrucChose open a konsole and run konqueror from there    try the share and then close it.  see if the konsole reports any errors03:03
Agent_bobMachinTrucChose or work on sambe manually03:04
MachinTrucChoseAgent_bob: I don't see the share. I only see the one I created manually in smb.conf.03:05
billydelbasan look in these forums www.kubuntuforums.net and www.ubuntuforums.org and also www.kubuntu.com03:05
MachinTrucChosedifferent folder, different setup03:05
elbasanok thanks03:05
ubuntu_im testing out kubuntu03:05
ubuntu_had a problem03:05
ubuntu_there is about a quarter inch of black space on the left side of the screen, and i cant see about a quarter inch of the right side03:06
MachinTrucChoseubuntu: adjust your screen position03:06
ubuntu_how?03:06
MachinTrucChoseon your monitor, not in the software03:06
ubuntu_ok03:06
MachinTrucChosethough you can probably do it using software03:06
billydThere is also a How To for Apt-Get.  Maybe at www.tldp.org03:07
ubuntu_that did the trick03:07
ubuntu_also, how do i get the menu bar to be black, and only one line at the top03:07
Agent_bobxrandr can03:08
ubuntu_xrandr?03:08
billydtldp is The Linux Documentation Project   and also sort of Linux info - everything you wanted to know and more03:08
Agent_bobadjust screen position03:08
ubuntu_i already did03:08
ubuntu_thanks anyway03:08
ubuntu_now, its a double line bar at the bottom, on some internet things they show it being only one bar, and at the top03:09
ubuntu_and then theres a quick launch thing at the bottom03:09
ubuntu_somewhat like the mac os thing03:09
ubuntu_how do i get that?03:10
ubuntu_somebody has to know03:10
ubuntu_...03:11
ubuntu_ok, how do i install beryl?03:12
MidnaS--oh, wait, nevermind.03:13
NickPresta!compiz | ubuntu_03:14
ubottuubuntu_: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness from KMenu -> System -> Desktop Effects - further help in #compiz-fusion03:14
dunasIs there an apt-get for java?03:30
Agent_bob!jre03:32
ubottuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre or sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu !Dapper03:32
dunasAgent_bob: Uh... for the Firefox 3 plugin, rather.03:34
Agent_boboh  that i don't know03:35
stdindunas: firefox3 uses the same plugin as firefox203:36
dunasstdin: That... doesn't help as much as you might think.03:37
stdinsudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin03:37
* Agent_bob inturprets. "i don't know how to get ff2 working"03:37
dunasAgent_bob: More like "I'd rather keep using FF3, thanks."03:38
dunasstdin: Thank you.03:38
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lalo#kubuntu-es04:20
harryI want to connect with my xp to the ubuntu system with remote desktop.  I am useing kde.04:33
dorkfaceHi all.  When I press the volume keys on my laptop, kmix seems to increase or decrease the volume by increments of 10% per press of the key.  However, I would like to shrink that increment to 1%.  Would anyone know how to do this?05:15
Agent_bobnot me05:16
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jetsaredimanyone know why - in firefox 3 - there are no borders around html field elements?05:37
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Betusumi, teclea "/join #kubuntu-es"05:45
Betussin comillas05:45
Betus!es05:45
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.05:45
florinsal all05:47
dongzhongshuls05:49
dr_Willis!info sl05:50
ubottusl (source: sl): Correct you if you type `sl' by mistake. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.03-15 (hardy), package size 24 kB, installed size 192 kB05:50
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ncfi1013I uninstalled compiz several times but I still have to run "kwin --replace" every time I log in or else my window borders are messed up and I have no system tray. I have deleted all compiz and emerald settings files that I could find and have set the session to load a clean session on startup but nothing seems to help.06:04
dr_WillisUninstalling compiz can cause issues.06:05
dr_WillisTheres some command thats called that was a link to  the proper window manager. i recall.. and you may of broken that link06:06
dr_WillisI had a similer issue ages ago when i removed compiz.06:06
ncfi1013do you know what the command is to repair the link?06:09
dr_WillisNope - i dont rember.06:09
dr_WillisI just rember exploring what happened..  You could stop kdm, and run 'startx' from the console and see what its tryign to run where.06:10
dr_Willisor just reinstall compiz06:10
dr_WillisLast i messed with this was in Gutsy. So it may differ now under hardy also.06:10
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dr_Willis!find Mezzo07:03
ubottuFile mezzo found in lilypond-doc07:03
romunovis there a way to create a menu "recently used documents" in kubuntu?07:06
lullideathisn't it already there?07:07
lullideathoh, documents07:07
lullideathya, KDE 4 has that by default07:08
dr_WillisI wonder how one defines documents. :)07:08
dr_WillisI rarely ever do word processing.. but i have been doing a lot of DVD label making this week.07:08
damienWould anyone be willing to help me in a private conversation? I've been having some real big problems since my computer plug fell out while it was on today.07:14
dr_WillisYou are refering to the Power Conector?07:15
damienYes07:15
damienSome of my problems are: programs not being able to start unless by command line, some programs refusing to run at all, and my second HDD mysteriously disappearing.07:16
dr_WillisSounds like somnthing may of gotten shorted out.07:16
damienCrap. I hope not.07:16
dr_WillisThe worse ive ever seen happen in such a case is the hard drives needing tobe checked..07:16
damienHow would I check them?07:17
dr_WillisWhats on the second hd?07:17
damienMusic etc07:17
dr_WillisI would be backing stuff up. ASAP07:17
damienIt's cool, I don't need anything on that HDD.07:17
Viking667hello there. I'm having trouble trying to upgrade from feisty to Gutsy using the adept upgrade tool - there's a dialog box that says:  Could not verify the integrity of the upgrader application. This program will now exit.07:17
Viking667So. Where do I go from here?07:17
dr_WillisIts possible somthing totally goofed up some parts of the hard drive. - you could boot a live cd and fsck the disks manually07:18
damienI don't have a live CD anymore, and don't know what fsck is.07:18
dr_Willis!fsck07:18
ubottufsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot07:18
Viking667I don't have a Gutsy ISO, nor a Hardy iso.07:18
damienCan't I just do sudo shutdown -F -r now and have it do the same thing?07:19
dr_Willisdamien,  You can try. I Just have the habit of using live cds to fsck everything.07:19
damienOkay07:19
damienBut I don't understand why things like apache, mysql, and my irc daemon would stop working after that07:20
damienand why some things refuse to start unless started in terminal07:20
dr_Willisdamien,   yep. sounds very weird.   Have to check the dmesg output, and perhaps any error messages they spit out.07:21
dr_WillisYou may want to run that memtest tool in the Boot menus also. to check the ram07:21
damien!dmesg07:21
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about dmesg07:21
damienOkay07:21
dr_Willisrun dmesg from a terminal07:22
damienOkay, I'll post that on pastebin after I'm done with a reboot07:22
aldohello07:23
aldoyour me add the mensager07:24
aldois vini_ferrari432@hotmail.com07:24
aldoyes , add the mensager ???07:25
dave11!konversation07:25
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about konversation07:25
aldooh , sorry07:26
dr_WillisHeh - wrong room?07:26
aldoi'm conversation the your07:26
aldothe menseger07:26
dave11that was a bot command not aimes at you07:27
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Viking667whew. Seemed to be corrected by starting the adept tool and selecting "Version upgrade" instead.07:27
aldofor me07:27
aldo??07:27
* dr_Willis is so confused.. hes going to go food eat. now.. :)07:27
dave11no07:27
dave11lol07:28
aldooh, yes07:28
aldoi me cofusion07:28
Viking667'm on my way to Gutsy...07:28
dave11!bot07:28
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots07:28
aldohehe07:28
dr_WillisViking667,  then you can upgrade to hardy!07:28
engineerkinda a bit late eh?07:28
engineergutsy is long gone07:28
dr_WillisGutsy is still being used by a lot of people.07:29
dave11shouldnt we be?07:29
Viking667can't do anything about that. the app didn't "provide" for an upgrade to Hardy, just to Gutsy.07:29
aldowhat your's name ???07:29
Viking667I suspect there'll be another one to Hardy when I'm done on this one.07:30
dr_WillisViking667,  you upgrade one release at a time. :)07:30
Viking667yes. I know that from BSD.07:30
dr_WillisViking667,  unless its a LTS thing.. you aparently can go from the old LTS to the Newest LTS.07:30
dr_WillisBut i perfer to do clean installs07:30
dave11i wonder why kubuntu didnt go lts07:31
Viking667"lts"?07:31
dave11LTS07:31
Viking667I don't know that term,s orry.07:31
dave11long term support07:31
dr_Willis!lts07:31
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.07:31
Viking667ahhhh.07:31
aldodave11 , what you name's ?07:31
dr_Willisdave11,  the kde4 stuff was one reason i think.07:31
Viking667heh. It's not like my wife NEEDS to upgrade..07:31
dave11ohhh07:31
dr_Willisas a home user - i dont worry about LTS much either.07:32
dave11just curious07:32
aldohehe07:32
Viking667anyhow, I'm off to go make some tea...07:32
aldoi'm corious07:32
dr_Willisyea the way KDE4 and Firefox Beta timing came out.. caused some conflicts with the 6 mo release cycle.07:32
aldohehe07:32
Viking667Hello Corious07:32
dr_WillisBut it all works out eventually. :)07:32
aldoheheh07:33
aldomy name's Aldo and you name's , dave1107:34
aldo???07:34
drbrowndoes anyone have any suggestions for a dvd slide show app?07:34
dave11aldo: yes07:34
aldoi not mach speak ingles07:34
engineerkino?07:34
engineer!english | aldo07:34
ubottualdo: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat07:34
aldoyes07:35
dave11aldo: my mom had 10 daves before me..:)07:35
ActionParsniphey all07:35
engineerhey partnership07:35
drbrownI have been through 3 different apps trying to make a simple slide show.  I will give kino a try07:35
drbrownthx07:35
aldoyes , not mach english07:36
aldospeak07:36
ActionParsnip!hi | aldo07:36
ubottualdo: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!07:36
aldoand you too07:37
aldohi07:37
ActionParsniphows yiur kubuntu install?07:37
aldoyes07:37
aldonot mach is time07:38
dave11ActionParsnip: lol07:38
engineeralso voce e brasileiro?07:38
ActionParsnipits early07:38
engineeraldo*07:38
aldoi't like kubuntu07:38
aldohi07:38
aldoengineer07:39
ActionParsnipdave11: is aldo a bot?07:39
engineeraldo voce e brasileiro?07:39
aldoso07:39
dave11ActionParsnip: dont think so...maybe07:39
engineerhe is a bot07:39
aldoeu sou brasileiro07:39
aldocom muito orgulho07:39
aldoengeneer07:39
aldoengineer07:40
engineero que é que voce quer?07:40
aldotipo07:40
dave11a mispelling bot... new to me07:40
aldoeu nau to entendendo nada do kubuntu07:40
aldoe eu to pensando em trocar ele07:40
aldome ajuda07:41
aldopor favor07:41
engineertrocar pelo que?07:41
aldomac osx07:41
drbrownkino is not for still pictures is it?07:41
engineerLOL07:41
engineeraldo canal errado07:41
aldohehehe07:41
aldomas eu kero entender07:41
drbrownI have very seldom  been through so many really bad Linux projects07:41
aldotens o kubuntu07:42
aldobrasileiro07:42
aldohehehe07:42
engineerah 3 anos07:42
aldoaha07:42
aldopode me ensinar um pouco sobre o kubuntu07:42
engineerdrbrown i haven't tested it so i can't assure, but why don't you try it and see for yourself07:42
aldotipo07:42
aldoto apanhando07:42
engineer!br07:43
ubottuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.07:43
drbrownthis should be an easy task07:43
dr_Willis"Computers - making Trivial Tasks Impossible for over 30 years!:07:44
aldoengineer07:44
aldo?07:44
drbrownkmediafactory broke, qdvdauthor broke, manslide abbandoned, and smile half baked07:44
aldoplase07:45
drbrownmakes sense07:45
engineeraldo voce ainda nao disse o que é que nao entende07:45
ActionParsnipmanslide?07:45
drbrownsounds gay, but it is french07:45
drbrownlooked like the best one of the bunch actually07:45
aldoo kapote07:45
engineerkopete?07:45
aldoé07:46
dave11grsunheit07:46
mrksbrdwhats the codec needed to copy dvd's in k3b?07:46
aldodescupa , falar mas é todo errado07:46
mrksbrd!k3b07:46
ubottuk3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto07:46
aldoo mensageiro07:47
aldodo kubuntu07:47
dave11!iso07:47
ubottuTo mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.07:47
* ActionParsnip loves when windows idiots dont md5 check and get issues with installs07:49
dave11lol07:49
dave11i  dont mind md5's but that hashcalc..:/07:50
trym74Morning :)07:50
dr_WillisI saw a neat md5 tool for windows that put 'check md5' on the context menu.. but cant rember where i found it at.07:51
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dave11download07:52
dave11md5 checker?07:53
dr_WillisLets see....07:53
dave11search download.com for md507:53
Tyrianwth...   anyone know how to get Firefox to work on Kubuntu ?  what version to download ?07:54
dr_Willisdave11,   that one has like 1000x more features then the one i saw./ :) but it looks handy07:55
ActionParsnipTyrian: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.007:55
Tyriani downed the tar file..   but i cant seem to start the installer07:55
dr_WillisTyrian,  with ubuntu/kubuntu - use the package manager tools - dont just 'download' stuff. :)07:55
ActionParsnipTyrian: its in repos07:55
dave11dr_Willis: yeah there are tons of them07:56
dr_Willisdave11,  the one i saw just had a simple 'right click -> check md5' and printed out a little dialog with the sum.07:56
dave11dr_Willis: thats the same one i have07:56
dr_WillisI need to learn to check the crc32 values of files under linux also..07:56
ActionParsnipi used one that you pointed to the md5sum file then the file its was checking07:57
dr_WillisBeen having some bad dvd burns lately. gotten where i check the md5's of all the files.07:57
dave11dr_Willis: cant remember the name though07:57
dave11the distro that gives me the most problems is fedora07:58
ActionParsnipid say gentoo due to a very manual install method07:59
ActionParsniphuman error causes issues07:59
mrksbrdwhats the codec needed to remove encrypted dvd protection for k3b???08:00
dave11that to(problem is between user and keyboard08:00
Phoenix92xmrksbrd: decss08:00
Phoenix92xgoogle "decss" and your operating system08:01
ActionParsnipproblem is between chair and keyboard, a class ID10-T error08:01
dave11thats  it08:01
mrksbrdty08:01
dr_WillisI dident relize k3b could remove encrypted pritection08:01
dr_Willis!k9copy08:01
ubottuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs08:01
Phoenix92xI think it can with the right library installed08:01
Phoenix92xiir08:01
dr_Willisk9copy can :)08:01
ActionParsnipDeCSS is a computer program capable of decrypting content on a DVD-Video disc encrypted using the Content-Scrambling System (CSS)08:01
dave11does  k3b do iso's08:01
ActionParsnipdave11: indeed08:02
dave11cool08:02
dr_Willisk3b is a cd/dvd burning utility -08:02
dr_Willisit can also generate iso files08:02
dr_Willisand gains more features all the time.08:02
dave11how dexterous08:02
dave11:)\08:02
ActionParsnipdave11: you can make isos at command line08:02
ActionParsniphttp://www.granneman.com/techinfo/linux/burningcds/makeanisoimage.htm08:03
Phoenix92xoh, I was wondering how to mount an iso via the command line, or whether there was a good tool for it08:03
dave11ActionParsnip: yeah i was refering to burning08:03
dr_WillisHmm.. k3b does have a 'rip video dvd' menu  item now.08:03
dr_Williswonder what it does... time to test it out08:03
dave11dr_Willis:< kid in a candy store08:04
dr_WillisBeen using k9copy all week. :08:04
dr_Willisheh - the rip video dvd  dont seem to do much..08:05
Phoenix92xlike how to mount the iso of a dvd?08:06
dr_Willis!iso08:06
ubottuTo mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.08:06
dr_Willismany video players can play the iso file directly without mounting it08:06
Phoenix92xdoes it have to be .iso format?08:06
Phoenix92xor can it be .mdf or something similar? .cue/bin?08:06
dr_WillisTry it and see i guess.08:06
Phoenix92xheh, righto08:06
dr_Willisthat isofuse (fuseiso?) tool claims it can mount mdf and cue/bins08:07
dr_Willisand nrgs08:07
dr_Willisbut dont expect the special features of the formats to work.08:07
aldohi08:08
dave11aldos back!!08:08
dr_WillisHowdy08:08
aldothe fire fox08:08
aldothe kubuntu08:08
aldoyes our no08:08
dave11aldo is brazilian08:08
MinusSevenon http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.1beta2.php it shows an image of the kde 4.1 desktop, and the taskbars are black08:09
MinusSevenis that the default theme?08:09
Phoenix92xis there some way to mount the ISOs with automatically at /media/* with the volume name?08:10
Phoenix92xlike when new partitions are detected?08:10
dr_WillisPhoenix92x,  so if i have 1000 iso files.. ya would want them all mounted? :)08:10
dr_WillisYou can use the fuseiso tools to let users mount iso files if youw anted.08:10
Phoenix92xlol, no, not quite, I should have put ?08:10
dr_Willisbut a user cant mount them to /media/08:11
dr_Willisonly root could do that.08:11
Phoenix92xhmmm08:11
ActionParsnipyou could have them automount at boot08:11
Phoenix92xhow would you go about solving this dr_wIllis?08:11
dr_WillisPhoenix92x,  your problem isent very clear as to what you are doing08:11
Phoenix92xeh, I'm looking for somethjing kind of daemon-tools esque.08:11
dr_Willismounting iso files will NOT get around the disk based copy protection08:12
Phoenix92xsome kind of client front end for virtual drive management with kubuntu clients08:12
dr_Willisif thats what you are wantign to do08:12
ActionParsnipyuk, daemon tool is riddled with nastys08:12
dr_WillisYou can easially mount specific iso files at boot time to specific locations if you wanted to.08:12
dr_Willisa user can mount iso files as needed with the fuseiso tools, which may have some guis out as well. ive not used any gui for them08:13
Phoenix92xActionParsnip, yaaa...I know and it makes me sad. I'm trying to find a clean foss equivelent to switch my users over to08:13
ActionParsnipdr_Willis: can users mount to empty dirs in ~/08:13
dr_Willisfuseiso - FUSE module to mount ISO filesystem images08:13
dr_Willisfuseiso9660 - File System in User Space - Module for ISO966008:13
ActionParsnipPhoenix92x: magiciso for windows is free and clean08:13
dr_Willisa user can use the fuse tools to mount things to their own homes. Yes.08:13
dr_Willishttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/FuseIso08:14
Phoenix92xlinux cleint needed actually08:14
Phoenix92xmagiciso is pretty good though08:15
ActionParsnipPhoenix92x: all you gotta do is create a folder in ~/ and mount to that instead of /media08:15
Phoenix92xnifty08:15
dr_Willisnone of these4 tools will allow you to change the iso file08:15
dr_Willis!info kiso08:15
ubottukiso (source: kiso): program to create manipulate and extract CD Image. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.3-0ubuntu5 (hardy), package size 347 kB, installed size 1052 kB08:15
dr_Williskiso can. :)08:15
Phoenix92xI'll just write them a script08:15
Phoenix92xw00t08:15
Phoenix92xkiso?08:15
Phoenix92xthis is suggested?08:15
Phoenix92xhm08:15
dr_Willisagain - you are not being clear on exactly WHAT features you are wanting.08:15
avishekis there any way to perform updates on a kubuntu machine not connected to the internet?08:16
Phoenix92xI'm sorry08:16
Phoenix92xheh08:16
Phoenix92xsomething to mount image files: .iso, .bin/cue, .mdf, etc.08:16
dr_Willismounting is not the same as 'changing the iso files contents'08:17
dr_Willisfuseiso claims it can mount those various file format.08:17
Phoenix92xoh I know it's read only08:17
dr_Willisfuseiso -p  testimage.iso testimagemountpoint08:17
dr_WillisYour users will need to be set up in the proper fuse group to allow them to use the fuse tools.08:18
Phoenix92xrighto08:18
dr_Willishttp://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/FuseISOMenu?content=7396608:18
Phoenix92xlovely08:18
dr_WillisLooks promising. :)08:18
dr_Willis Supported image types: ISO, BIN (single track08:19
dr_Willisonly), NRG, MDF, IMG (CCD)08:19
Phoenix92xnice08:19
avishekcould someone please advise me?08:20
mrksbrdcan someone run me thru the process of installing a .tar file....i already have it extracted, just need help from "make file" on....08:20
avishekis there any way to perform updates on a kubuntu machine not connected to the internet?08:20
mrksbrdavishek:not really08:20
dr_Willismrksbrd,  you did isntall all the proper Compiler tools?  like the 'build-essential' package?08:20
Viking667heh. 84% through...08:21
mrksbrddunno....i only attempted tar files 1 time & they didn't work08:21
dr_Willismrksbrd,  You may want to do some reading at http://www.monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/08:21
mrksbrdI d/l'd the file extracted it to a folder in home dir08:21
ActionParsnipdr_Willis: fuseiso doesnt work with dolphin without changing stuff apparently08:22
dr_Williscompiling from souce can be a bit.... of a channalge at times.08:22
dr_WillisActionParsnip,  i always set up Konqueror as the default anyway. :)08:22
mrksbrdtell me about it08:22
ActionParsnipdr_Willis: just an fyi08:22
Phoenix92xthanks dr_Willis, that looks good08:22
dr_Willismrksbrd, thats why package managers are a good thing.08:22
dave11too bad the chumby doesn't have a irc chat widget to use instead of reading before bed08:22
avishekflaccid: nice to meet you again08:23
avishekok, so i can't perform updates offline. but can i install packages on to an offline machine?08:23
dr_WillisActionParsnip,  that gui tool i pasted mentioned it was fixed for dolphin - in the notes.. but ive not tried that tool.08:23
dr_WillisI can handle mounting isos from the command line.08:23
mrksbrdtrue08:23
ActionParsnipdr_Willis: i dont really use em, or cds :D08:23
mrksbrdi'll read that article....ty08:24
flaccidavishek, howdy are you the quickcam guy?08:24
ActionParsnipmrksbrd: you compiling dude08:24
avisheksorry flaccid; no, but am just a simple linux fan whom you helped greatly08:25
mrksbrdaction trying to install a tar file08:25
kosh_excuse me, could someone recommend me a good windows manager ?08:25
flaccidavishek, ah sorry mate, you just have a similar nick to this guy i ran out of time for helping. sweet hope you well then08:25
Viking667Enlightenment08:25
ActionParsnipmrksbrd: you'll need some tools and libs08:26
flaccidhas there been a dude trying to get a logitech quickcam going here ?08:26
ActionParsnipgood ol dodgitech08:26
avishekflaccid: thank you. if you have some time, might i trouble you for some advise?08:26
mrksbrdwhich ones?08:26
flaccidkosh_, the default kwin is great08:26
mrksbrdthis is why i love .deb files....lol08:27
ActionParsnipmrksbrd: build-essentials gcc g++08:27
ActionParsnipmrksbrd: what you installing?08:27
mrksbrddecss08:27
ActionParsnipmrksbrd: is there no repo for it?08:28
mrksbrdnope....couldn't find it thru terminal nor add/remove08:28
ActionParsnipmrksbrd: maybe you need another repo adding08:29
mrksbrdany idea which one it may be under?08:30
ActionParsniphttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1496008:30
ActionParsnipmrksbrd: you realy need to google more08:30
avishekflaccid: could you please advise me on how to install packages on a kubuntu machine that isn't connected to the 'net.08:31
mrksbrdmy brain is fried tonight.....sorry running on fumes08:31
kosh_flaccid: kwin ?. Im ussing the default kde (dolphin) but i had too many problems in the pass and i would like to change it. I Need one with the less possible graffics enviroment.08:31
mrksbrdty though action08:32
ActionParsnipmrksbrd: its cool man08:32
mrksbrdbrb let me see if that article works08:32
ActionParsnipmrksbrd: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-tutorials-howtos-reference-material/15076-ubuntu-multimedia-howto.html08:32
kosh_flaccid: I Need one with the less possible graffics enviroment, a fast and simple one. Ty for answering and sorry for my bad english.08:33
ActionParsnipkosh_: fluxbox08:33
kosh_ActionParsnip: Thanks you, i'll try it :)08:34
flaccidkosh_, yeah fluxbox or xfce08:36
flaccidavishek, oh you don't have to ask me you can ask anyone. dpkg the command to install packages manually, then it just depends where to get from08:36
flaccidah well user needed to know difference between a wm and a de08:37
avishekflaccid: thank you.08:38
flaccidavishek, where are you deb packages?08:38
avisheksorry flaccid, you've lost me; could you please explain what you mean?08:39
flaccidavishek, if its not from the internet, then where from ?08:39
avishekit's like this. On this machine, it's all from the internet. but on another machine there's no net connection. that's why the question08:40
flaccidavishek, yes but the question remains where are the packages you want to install ? you want them from the internet machine? you can just copy from /var/cache/apt/archives08:41
ActionParsnipavishek: can't you get it connected temporarily?08:41
jussi01!aptoncd | avishek08:41
ubottuavishek: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers08:41
avishekjussi01, flaccid, THANK YOU!08:42
dr_Williscant hook up the 2 machines with networking to make it easier eh?08:42
flaccidanyone know if you can send notes to registered users on freenode for when they next login ?08:43
avishekno, the machines are in separate cities08:43
dr_WillisI wonder how many dvd's the full apt-on-cd stuff would take up08:43
dr_Willisflaccid,  theres a memoserver i thought08:43
dr_Willis - memoserv :)08:43
flaccidthanks08:44
dr_Willisi wonder what other kinds of serv's there are. theres Nickserv, chanserv, and memoserv.08:44
ActionParsnipavishek: hit up a starbucks for free www access08:44
dr_WillisIs starbucks free? i though it was a few $ an hr.08:45
jussi01dr_Willis: ask in #freenode :)08:45
ActionParsnipdr_Willis: in uk its free with the overpriced coffee afaik08:45
jussi01dr_Willis: seenserv ;)08:45
avishekActionParsnip: starbucks isn't in india, where i live08:45
ActionParsnipavishek: yer not missing much08:46
dr_WillisIve never taken my laptop to starbucks.. I may do that tomorrow.08:46
dr_WillisMcDonolds has wifi here.. but i think they chage also08:46
ActionParsnipdr_Willis: mcwifi with fries please08:47
avishekspeaking of these things, is there any linux gaming console?08:47
flaccidyanks usually make those assumptions heh08:47
ActionParsnipavishek: i know mamix exists08:47
mrksbrdaction: did what it said, still saying package is not avail08:48
dr_WillisActionParsnip,  can you supersize that download please?08:48
mrksbrdPackage libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package08:48
mrksbrdE: Package libdvdcss2 has no installation candidate08:49
ActionParsnipmrksbrd: did you add the repo to /etc/apt/sources.lst08:49
* mrksbrd slams his head against a wall08:49
mrksbrdyup08:50
dr_WillisYou did update after adding the repo?08:50
mrksbrdyup08:50
mrksbrdstep by step08:50
dr_WillisYou did do the FUnky Chicken Dance to apease the FOSS deities?08:50
ActionParsnipi thought it was the root dance :)08:51
mrksbrdi give up....this is only this hard because it's me08:51
mrksbrdi am a PV08:51
mrksbrdPV = Professional Victim08:52
avishekalas, people, i must say farewell, thank you for all your help, especially flaccid and jussi01. god bless you all.08:54
jussi01:)08:54
flaccidmeh no god for me but thanks anyway!08:54
flaccidanyone else getting random lag? ..most likely problem is my connetion08:57
dr_Willisflaccid,  not today, at least...08:58
goofsomeone uses mc for ssh?08:59
flaccidhmm its very weird, im on windows xchat. might try a dif client thanks dr08:59
goofmc has a problem with the passwd promt via ssh. the command line input it all fuzzy after ... someone know how to fix that09:02
ds187goof: what do you mean with "fuzzy"09:03
goofds187: all over the place09:03
ds187hmm, can't imagine what you are talking about, sorry09:04
beau#vim09:04
beausry!09:04
* dr_Willis boots beau to #emacs09:04
dr_Willis:)09:04
goofcd /#sh:username@ip in midnight commander f*cks up the command line part in midnight commander ds18709:05
ds187could you make a screenshot?09:06
dr_Willisgoof,  you are not using screen are you? ive seen some issues with screen and mc.09:07
neo__hey, anyway i can give my kde3 an oxygen style?09:10
goofds187: http://imagebin.org/21700 before/after09:15
ds187goof: looks strange :-)09:16
ds187what if you don't use the command line, but the menu-item "F9 --> right --> shell link".....same problem there?09:17
goofds187: fuzzy :)09:17
dr_Willislooks like some CR/LF/Escape sequences goofing up09:17
ds187i must say i almost never use the command line09:18
goofds187: yes09:18
dr_WillisI use mc a lot.. but never the ssh feature09:18
dr_Willisand yes.. the initial Are you sure you want to connect (YES/No) login/password/ questions do goof up the mc screen here...09:20
dr_Willisbut it did connect09:20
dr_Willisi did a ctrl-l to refresh the mc screen09:20
dr_Willisusing  ssh-copy-id  - lets me do the ssh login without any prompts. :) so i dont have any text glitzes then.09:22
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flaccid_yay problem fixed. netgear does not like multiple instances of its agent running in windows via fast user switching lol09:30
dr_WillisShowing once again. that  multi-users under windows... is a pain. :)09:31
dr_WillisIve seen similer issues with other apps.09:31
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dr_WillisFile a bug report!09:31
flaccid_lol. well avg multiple scans as a result just chews up your hard disk, cpu etc.09:32
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|rdw|hi, during some update i ran out of space. now i'm getting "update-alternatives: internal error: /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/ps2pdf corupted: invalid update mode"09:38
|rdw|when i am trying to remove package ghostscript09:38
dr_WillisYou have free space now?09:38
|rdw|yes09:39
dr_WillisYou could try the force options to remove.09:39
dr_Willisor try reinstalling, then removing09:39
dr_WillisIm not real good at these apt-get fixing stuff. :(09:39
dr_Willisluckly. heh09:39
|rdw|at which site can i learn which package contains ps2pdf file?09:39
dr_WillisNever needed to mess with them much.09:39
dr_Willis!find ps2pdf09:39
ubottuFile ps2pdf found in autoconf-archive, dblatex, fish, ghostscript, inkscape (and 6 others)09:39
dr_Willisif you just type 'ps2pdf' at the command line. it may tell you also.09:40
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|rdw|hi, during some update i ran out of space. now i'm getting "update-alternatives: internal error: /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/ps2pdf corupted: invalid update mode" apt-get remove, purge, upgrade, -f,, dist-upgrade don't work. nothing googled works!09:51
flaccid|rdw|, what did google say about the error(s) ?09:52
|rdw|it didn't find this specific error09:52
areelsim adding shortcut to desktop but it disappears on reboot how can i fix that?09:52
dr_Willisareels,  a short cut to what exactly? you mean a link?09:53
areelsdr_Willis: shortcut to a network mount09:53
dr_Willisand how is it getting mounted?09:53
areelssmb://py001/tools/09:53
flaccid|rdw|, i did just then: http://www.google.com.au/search?q=++invalid+update+mode+update-alternatives&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a09:54
dr_WillisI normally put such a thing in my filemanger bookmarks.09:54
areelsbut i need it on desktop09:54
flaccidareels, kde version ?09:56
areelsflaccid:  im on gnome09:57
flaccidareels, we don't support gnome here.09:57
areelsoh09:59
areelslet me pass on kde then09:59
flaccidpass ?10:00
dr_WillisI thought with gnome - you used that 'connect to remote server' item in the menus and it generated a icon on the desktop10:00
khatahnhi, i'm trying to configure the network in kubuntu, but the network manager refuses to remember the settings i enter. i also tried to configure /etc/network/interfaces manually, but kubuntu seems to overwrite these settings with the ones it won't let me change10:00
flaccidkhatahn, can you provide better detail? dhclient and other dhcp clients must not be running if you are doing static..10:01
khatahnflaccid: so i would have to shut down those myself before using the GUI network manager?10:03
flaccidkhatahn, if they were manually started yes. tell us what actual network config you are trying to achieve.. ?10:05
flaccidkhatahn, also feel free to pastebin your current /etc/network/interfaces10:06
Ange|usman10:06
Ange|ussomebody reminds me how to ssh10:06
Ange|uscause i forgot lol10:06
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flaccidAnge|us, ssh hostname10:06
Ange|ushmm10:07
Ange|usflaccid: im trying to ssh into a shell that i pay for10:07
Ange|usi used to do something -l username, but i forgot if to put it behind or oposite the hostname10:08
Ange|usok i done it10:08
Ange|usthanks :D10:08
khatahnflaccid: hmm.. i'm not in front of the kubuntu machine right now, so i guess i'll have to come back later. but thanks for the help.10:08
flaccidAnge|us, yeah either ssh user@host or ssh -l user host10:09
flaccidfair enough10:09
SolvI'm trying to help a uni it admin connect a kubuntu system i set up for my mother in law to connect wireless with wpa key!  He's on msn at the moment...I had it working with an open system at my place...but also couldn't get wpa working....knetworkmanger just sits at 54 percent and then times out10:13
Solvgoogle doesn't give me much...except that maybe i'll have to install wpasupplicant?  Although i would've figured that had come with kubuntu already10:14
flaccidSolv, kubuntu version?10:14
Solv8.0410:14
flaccidSolv, check the logs when trying to connect?10:15
Solvwell to be perfectly honest it is ubuntu 8.04 then adept install kubuntu...but same thing10:15
flaccidwhich packages did you install for kubuntu ?10:15
Solvflaccid, which file is the appropriate log file?10:15
flaccidSolv, /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog at least10:15
Solvah...so there is no wifi one specially...okay10:16
flaccidyeah10:16
Solvright well i'll take him through some steps...he's having problems just using knetworkmanager at the moment!10:17
Solvthen i'll get him to look at the logs if we go no further...and then i'll chat more here....thanks10:17
flaccidSolv, in theory it should be as easy as right click, select network then put in credentials but yeah problems are possible of course10:17
flaccidnp10:18
lokifaciojoin #algo10:21
Viking667does anyone know of a panel applet that shows bandwidth? The three I've looked at don't exactly do what I want them to.10:24
flaccid!info knetstats10:24
ubottuknetstats (source: knetstats): network interfaces monitor for KDE's systray. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.1-0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 110 kB, installed size 656 kB10:24
Viking667I think I tried that, is that the one with the two sets of numbers ?10:25
Viking667one set red, the other set green?10:25
flaccidah not really. give it a try? it shows speeds with left click10:25
Viking667the one that does best what I want doesn't appear in the KDE menus, though I can start it up manually:  knetdockapp10:25
Viking667that does what you describe10:26
flaccidthen why are you asking?10:26
Viking667well, two reasons, really. One is: how come this program isn't in the KDE menus, and Two is: how do I get it to run in the panel on startup in the system tray?10:27
flaccidViking667, 1. ask the author or package maintainer. 2. use autostart or kde sessions10:28
dr_Willisif its a kicker applet - it will be in the 'add to panel'  menus thing..10:29
dr_Willisits possible the kde menus havent refreshed.. if its supposed to be in the menus.10:29
flaccidyes but best to check the package to see if it actually comes with a .desktop menu item first10:30
Viking667It's got a .desktop, the category is:  Applications.10:30
Viking667How useful10:30
dr_Willisdemand a refund.10:30
Viking667there isn't even a "Applications" parent menu on the "K"10:30
Viking667huh. You know the program was free to begin with...10:31
Viking6678-)10:31
Viking667I get the impression that it's not in the menus. And, which menus do I refresh? The system, or the user menu?10:32
Viking667... My impression with kubuntu was that all that was kinda ... automated?10:32
dr_Willistheres some command that makes the menus get rescanned.. but i forget what it is.10:32
dr_Willissome times the menus just dont get refreshed properly when installing.10:32
dr_Willisi normally logout/back in.. or just use terminal till next time i logout/in10:33
Viking667ah, okay. I can look at that. Currently undergoing a Feisty->Gutsy upgrade now, so that should upgrade the menus.10:33
Viking667's on the wife's machine, and I'm tekmunkey10:33
flaccidyeah could be just a matter of kmenu refresh like the dr suggest10:34
Viking667*nod*10:34
eagles0513875when downloading packages or updating packages what port is used10:37
flaccid8010:38
eagles0513875flaccid: since i have my connection split using a router do i need to port forward port 8010:40
flaccideagles0513875, not if your NAT works10:41
eagles0513875flaccid: ok lol it does10:41
flaccidcool10:41
eagles0513875i was just wondering cuz its kinda on the slow side10:41
eagles0513875then it is probably just my isp being gay as usual10:41
flaccidif its slow then obviously forwarding is working..10:42
Viking667heh. And I have a small problem trying to forward port 113 through a DSL-302G... doesn't seem to want to work.10:42
eagles0513875flaccid: with winblows p2p software i get between 20-40kbps on ares with the port forwarded10:42
flaccideagles0513875, that doesn't indicate anything10:43
flaccidViking667, likely problem with the dlink product10:43
Viking667I've got a rule in that kinda looks like this:   Global address: 0.0.0.0, Global Port From: 113, Global Port To: 113, Local Port: 11310:43
Viking667and local address: 10.64.5.110:43
Viking667(which is my machine)10:43
flaccidcontact your sub-standard vendor :)10:43
eagles0513875lol10:43
Viking667does that look about normal, though?10:43
Viking667Can't contact, as the modem was a gift.10:44
eagles0513875Viking667: its a modem or router10:44
flaccidlooks ok yet10:44
eagles0513875now your getting the terminology confused there bro10:44
Viking667strictly, it's a modem, but it has simple NAT/DMZ.10:44
flaccidit has to be a router as well if its got forwarding as modem is bridged mode only in native10:44
eagles0513875flaccid: that does look like a modem DSL-302G10:45
Viking667As I said, it's _described_ as a modem, but it has some stuff in that separates the LAN from the WAN side, though you can run in bridging mode10:45
flaccideagles0513875, they have a router as well, ive discarded 2x of those in the past, they are budget as10:45
eagles0513875gotcha and gotcha10:46
Viking667heh. I got it given to me, and it's currently handling DSL just fine... just not connections TO my machine on port 113. Funnily enough, connections to port 80 seem to work well.10:46
llutzMoin10:47
flaccidViking667, well have to check isp is not filtering that port and yeah modems are easy to do but router's require firmware and decently designed firmware at that. i've had port forwards fail on the modem/router you specified so it sounds likely..10:47
eagles0513875Viking667: random thought you on dhcp or static ip from your isp10:47
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Viking667dhcp10:49
Viking667and the ISP doesn't filter anything.10:49
Solv_flaccid, i'm trying to tell this guy to right click on knetworkmanager and select 'connect to another wireless network' and then pop in the ssid and wait for it to ask for the wpa password...but he says there is no option like that in the list?10:49
Viking667i.e. I've got traffic at specified port arriving.10:49
flaccidthen its the router as long as the client doesn't filter10:49
Solv_is there another way to configure the connection?10:50
flaccidSolv_, thats not the right way. you right click and select the network/sside from the list10:50
Viking667*sigh* - how come they got http right, but not ident?10:50
Viking667err, auth?10:50
flaccidViking667, huh?10:50
Viking667port 113 is the auth service, otherwise known as ident.10:50
flaccidif your router fails forwarding, contact the manufacturer or get a decent router10:50
Solv_flaccid, the ssid is usually not listed in my experience...i'm doing it from memory though...as i took my wireless card out =)10:50
flaccidyeah thats right..10:50
Viking667mrmmm10:51
flaccidSolv_, the ssid needs to not be hidden for knetworkmanager otherwise yes you have to do it manual10:51
flaccidthere is no reason to hide the essid as that can be sniffed anyway.10:52
Viking667'd love to know why the remote end thinks my ident is broken. *sigh* - there'll be a reason10:53
flaccidi thought you said the reason is port forward is failing.10:53
Viking667yeah, I know - faulty firmware.10:53
flacciddlink at a decent vendor :(10:53
flaccidat=aint10:54
Viking667well, let's see. Traffic comes to the modem on port 113, gets NATted to 10.64.5.1, my machine receives it on port 113, sends back a reply from port 113, and that's the last I know of it.10:54
Viking667without me manually running a telnet remotehost 113 from a remote host, I can't go any further than that.10:55
flaccidso port forwarding is working. checking your ident server10:55
dr_Williswhats relying on identd these days?10:55
Viking667I've done _that_ before, when I was on dialup, and writing up the identd-HOWTO.10:55
Viking667dr_Willis: several IRC servers, presumably Undernet and Freenode, as those are the networks I use.10:55
dr_WillisHm.. freenode dosent require one. as far as i know10:56
flaccidnothing relies on ident10:56
flaccidand the problem is with your ident server so go get the required help for that which is not here :)10:56
dr_Willisi recall running a fake identd server years ago.. to mess with dalnet.10:57
Viking667I'm running oidentd here, and that was recommended as a good ident server.10:57
dr_Willisheh - the one i ran was like 4 lines of perl code.10:57
Viking667yah, you can get it small with perl... simply reply "UNIX" to the socket call.10:58
flaccidyeah here is not the help for that..10:58
dr_Willishers one in perl about 40 lines. :)10:59
Viking667hm. What's "No CIDSupplement specified for font ...., defaulting to 0" ...?11:00
flaccidViking667, try google11:00
Viking667(for a font package upgrade?11:00
Viking667m. I should have taken my own normal advice. Sorry about that11:00
* Viking667 extracts foot out of helmet11:00
Viking667now I have to see whether my dear dsl has a logging mode or not. I suspect not.11:02
flaccidfrom memory that dlink does11:02
flaccidand its not too bad11:03
Viking667Good. Then I'll see what it provides.11:05
Solv_flaccid, okay so we figured out the device wasn't active...so went and enabled it with autoconfiguration and dhcp...but at 2811:09
Solv_%11:09
Solv_woops11:09
Solv_at 28% knetworkmanager freezes....i guess no is the time for the logs11:09
DekansSolv_: it's the hardware config state11:10
Dekansyour network card is not well installed11:10
Solv_Dekans, it's a bcm49sxx or whatever...used ndiswrapper11:10
Solv_Dekans, it worked okay on an open system..not happy with wep or wpa though it seems11:11
fredthemonkeyhello :)11:11
DekansI think ndiswrapper does not handle it11:11
fredthemonkeydoes anyone know a good html/php editor?11:11
Dekanscheck on google11:12
Dekansndiswrapper+wpa11:12
Solv_Dekans, yeah probably....my mother-in-law is gonna kill me...took vista off and put kubuntu on =11:12
Solv_=)11:12
Solv_she'll say.."at least wireless worked with vista"11:12
DekansI rememver an additionnal step to handle wpa11:12
Dekansremember*11:12
Dekansyour can try the b43 driver too11:13
eagles0513875Solv_: nice wish i could get kubuntu on my vista machine11:13
Dekanswith a bcm4306 it doesn't work on hardy but maybe you'll be lucky11:13
Solv_Dekans, cept it's in a different state11:13
Solv_and the person on the other end has never used linux before =)11:13
Dekansfredthemonkey: look at quanta11:14
Dekansor qanta11:14
Dekansdon't remember11:14
fredthemonkeythanks11:14
fredthemonkeyi'll try it11:14
flaccidSolv_, what you said doesn't make sense to me. pastebin /etc/network/interfaces11:16
flaccidor cut out the middleman..11:17
Solv_flaccid, yeah i need remote access11:17
Solv_/var/log/messages says link is not ready11:18
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Solv_hopefully remote desktop will work okay...nothing like having nx installed on the machine...in hindsight i shoulda done that =)11:21
flaccidSolv_, right yeah thats a problem with the firmware / driver11:21
flaccidSolv_, you just get the user to come here on the box unless ethernet not available11:21
Solv_bugger....so it works okay an an open system but not with encryption?11:21
Solv_flaccid, they have ethernet11:22
flaccidSolv_, thats possible but broadcom have dozens of problems11:22
flaccidthen get them to come here to save time11:22
Solv_flaccid, oh i see...yeah good point, so you reckon you could walk a complete noob through it?11:22
Solv_flaccid, have you seen this post? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff#Step%203:%20All%20BCM43xx%20-%20Configure%20NDISWrapper%20(and%20WPA%20Supplicant)11:25
flaccidwe do it here everyday11:25
flaccidSolv_, yes, but is the user actually on feisty?11:27
flaccidits best to show the lscpi entry and the ubuntu version then select the right howto from the wiki..11:27
Solv_flaccid, but there are hardy updates11:27
flaccidso?11:28
dr_WillisSolv_,  i had to enable ndiswrappers for my bc4310 card. following a guide similer to that.11:28
Solv_so it should be okay to use11:28
dr_WillisOne i saw was Hardy specific11:28
flaccidget the above and we will have a better idea of what you need to do11:28
flaccidum two options, native or ndiswrapper, try both but there are many guides on broadcom and a lot outdated etc.11:29
Solv_right....i will tell the fella to hop on here and talk to you11:30
dr_WillisThat no-fluff guide has some notes in it for gutsy support.11:30
flaccidhardy is way more updated for broadcom than the latter11:30
flaccidis this gutsy, Solv_  im still yet to see the ubuntu version and lscpi entry..11:30
Solv_cause i need to ask him for it...hold on11:31
flaccidok11:31
mercureedoes anyone here use the azenis theme for their kde environment?11:36
mercureeive pretty much got everything configured the way i want it but am still having one little problem11:36
flaccidits better to tell the problem then advise you have one..11:37
flaccidthen=than11:37
dr_Willis!find azenis11:37
ubottuPackage/file azenis does not exist in hardy11:37
Solv_abhi11:38
mercureebasically any lists ie playlis in amarok etc have black stripes over every second listing11:38
dr_WillisThats a feature of kde themes/color schemes11:38
flaccidmercuree, i've seen that before with many themes. perhaps try #amarok or submit a bug11:38
Solv_flaccid, sara is the person i've been trying to help11:39
flaccidproblem also is that amarok has its own themes11:39
mercureeit doesnt only happen in amarok though11:39
flaccidhi sara11:39
mercureewhich isnt themed11:39
mercureeso im guessing its a system setting of some kind11:39
dr_WillisYou can customize it.  if its using the kde themes. But its a bit hidden in the kde theme settings thing.11:39
mercureeill google it11:39
flaccidmercuree, kde version?11:39
Solv_sara is my mother-in-law....but the guy is called abhi =)11:39
mercureethanks11:39
mercureeflaccid: 3.5.911:40
pagmercuree, kcontrol -> appearance -> colours thre choose 'alternative list colour' (or similiar) from the dropdown menu and change it to something more reasonable11:40
dr_Willismercuree,  appearance and themes --> colors.. the LAST entry on the list of things you can change colors on..11:40
flaccidmercuree, perhaps submit a bug if you believe problem is not the theme11:40
mercureethanks guys11:40
dr_Willis"alternative background in lists"11:40
flaccidhmm that depends on the design of the theme but yeah try both11:40
dr_Willissomeone had same issue last week. the 'example' window in that color settings  tool. does not show an example of the list so you dont realize what that color changes11:41
flaccidhmmm sara didn't seem to say anything11:42
mercureeyep that was the problem exactly. thanks again11:44
Solv_flaccid, he is new to irc...trying to get him to change his nick to abhi11:44
flaccidi thought it was a mother in law11:44
dr_Willis'wheres the slash key at?' :) heh11:44
flaccidah well11:44
Solv_flaccid, her computer...a dude at the campus helpoing her11:44
flaccidfair enough11:44
dr_Willisand other fun questions ive heard when tryign to tutor people on irc ussage.11:44
mercureehehe11:45
mercureethrow irssi at them :P11:45
dr_Willisfun time explaing why ^c ment Control-C once....11:46
sarahi11:48
Solv_yay11:48
flaccidhowdy11:48
Solv_okay type /nick abhi so we all don't get confused11:48
flaccidok while you guys do that im getting another beer11:49
Solv_flaccid, nice11:49
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=== sara is now known as abhi1
Solv_abhi1, nice11:49
abhi1yeah, what next should i do11:49
Solv_by the way you can save time when typing someones nickname by pressing tab after typing a couple of letters...like So(tab) will probably autocomplete my nickname for you...saves heaps of time11:50
Solv_abhi1, okay open konsole11:50
abhi1ok11:50
abhi1i have it open11:51
abhi1should i type any command?11:52
Solv_and type lspci -n | grep '14e4:43'11:52
Solv_just copy and paste it11:52
flaccidbrb11:52
Solv_abhi1, then copy and paste the ouput11:53
abhi101:00.0 0280: 14e4:4311 (rev 02)11:53
Solv_cool...now just wait for flaccid he's gonna take it from here11:54
abhi1ok11:54
Solv_so I believe =)11:54
abhi1i hope that helps11:54
abhi1anyways thanks for your help11:54
Solv_are you up for a bit of hacking?11:54
abhi1i dont know, never been upto anything like this before11:54
flaccidcan i just have the normal lscpi output please11:55
Solv_well it's kinda fun when someones helping you...especially when you get something working at the end...11:55
flaccidfor that device11:55
Solv_flaccid, abhi1 well need exact instructions11:55
abhi1yes please11:55
flaccidlscpi | grep -i network will be fine11:56
LiNuxBaBedoes anyone knows a program to connect to wireless with wpa2 protection..? My wicd won't connect11:56
flaccidLiNuxBaBe, knetworkmanager11:56
abhi1bash: lscpi: command not found11:57
flaccidabhi1, sorry spelling mistake. lspci | grep -i network11:58
abhi1ok11:58
abhi101:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 02)11:59
Solv_flaccid, btw I followed this howto to get the wireless card working in the firstplace: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76999011:59
Solv_it might help you know what you have to 'undo' if anything11:59
flaccidabhi1, and you are on ubuntu hardy ?11:59
Solv_flaccid, yes he is11:59
Solv_i installed it11:59
flaccidnp gimme 2mins11:59
flaccidare you guys doing native or ndiswrapper atm?12:00
Solv_ndiswrapper12:00
flaccidok 1sec12:00
Solv_flaccid, yeah it was built from source12:01
flaccidand can i have a pastebin of /etc/network/interfaces please?12:01
flaccidalso this is probably the guide that should of been followed: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Hardy12:02
Solv_abhi1, you will need to paste the ouput in the channel #pastebin12:02
flaccidi'll leave the 'undo' to you guys12:02
flaccid!pastebin12:02
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:02
Solv_otherwise you might get kicked of the channel12:02
flacciduse the website instead12:02
Solv_yeah12:02
abhi1Solv_: so what exactly should i do now12:03
Solv_abhi1, goto pastebin.com12:03
abhi1okay12:03
Solv_and paste the info in there...and then just post the link here12:03
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abhi1Solv_: so i should paste this there: 01:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 02)12:06
flaccidabhi1, nah just what kate /etc/network/interfaces gives12:06
abhi1ok12:07
Solv_so paste it in pastebin....type your name in the box and press send12:07
Solv_then it changes the address in the webpage and you can paste the link to the new url12:07
abhi1http://pastebin.com/m64d77f4512:09
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abhi1did that help12:10
flaccidok all good there. now problem is there are lots of bugs with this model and lots of problems so its a matter of trying to work it out12:10
abhi1ok12:11
flaccidgive me a few more mins. its going to be hard considering you guys have already tried a lot of stuff and we don't know what has been changed12:12
abhi1ok12:12
keepoutheelo12:12
Solv_flaccid, i haven't done anything else other than that howto i posted12:13
Solv_flaccid, currently he has gone into system settings and disabled wlan0 as well12:13
zorglu_q. i would like to get mp3 reading in amarok. how can i do ?12:14
Tm_T!mp3 | zorglu_12:14
ubottuzorglu_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:14
flaccidhmmm this is all too messy12:14
dognewshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23492/12:14
zorglu_Tm_T: do you have any thing shorter than reading all this ?12:15
Tm_Tzorglu_: install kubuntu-restricted-extras ?12:15
flaccidabhi1, please try to install b43-fwcutter package , have you guys tried that yet?12:16
dognewswhat's the problem? (see link above)12:16
Tm_Troot: are we rooted now?12:16
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zorglu_Tm_T: that's shorter :) trying12:16
zorglu_openjdk-6-jre-headless <- what is this openjdk ? the new name of sun java or of gnu java ?12:18
Tm_Tzorglu_: opened sun java12:18
zorglu_Tm_T: ok thanks12:18
zorglu_Tm_T: thanks bis. install kubuntu-restricted-extras worked :)12:20
abhi1ok12:20
Tm_Tzorglu_: now you have many other restricted issues solved too I hope12:20
=== ubuntu is now known as Jahromeo
flaccidSolv_, that chipset is supported with the firmware as per http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43/devices apparently12:21
Jahromeohey guys12:21
Jahromeohow do i format a volume in kubuntu12:21
flaccidJahromeo, what kind of volume?12:21
Jahromeoext312:21
dognewsJahromeo: qtparted12:21
Jahromeomy old ubuntu partition12:21
Jahromeoi want to remove it12:21
flaccidJahromeo, thats a filesystem, not a volume.12:21
Jahromeowell im on the livedisc atm12:22
Jahromeohow do i format that old ubuntu volume12:22
flaccidqtparted is fine for partition/fs removal12:22
flaccidJahromeo, you want to re-use the filesystem?12:22
Jahromeowell i want to format that partition12:22
Jahromeoand make it blank12:22
Jahromeoi want to put it back as part of the ntfs one12:22
flacciduse qtparted or just delete the contents12:22
Jahromeoand make it back to ntfs12:22
flaccidJahromeo, um thats not formatting at all. you would have to remove it and then create an ntfs fs. you cannot convert12:23
Jahromeowell how do i get rid of ubuntu12:23
Jahromeoits messing up my grub12:23
Jahromeoi need it gone12:23
Jahromeowhy cant i just format it12:23
flaccidJahromeo, messing up how ? you can use qtparted as advised to remove whatever12:23
Jahromeoi want to format sda512:23
Jahromeoand make it blank12:23
Jahromeoi dont have qtparted on this livecd12:23
flaccidyou can format it but not as ntfs because its ext312:24
flaccidJahromeo, you can install it12:24
Jahromeosurely there must be a default ap12:24
flaccidno there is no default app12:24
flaccid!info qtparted12:24
ubottuqtparted (source: qtparted): A parted frontend using QT. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu14 (hardy), package size 205 kB, installed size 712 kB12:24
Jahromeo: Couldn't find package qtparted12:24
flaccidyou have to enabled universe and then install it12:24
abhi1Solv_: where do i find the b43-fwcutter package12:24
flaccid!info b43-fwcutter12:24
ubottub43-fwcutter (source: b43-fwcutter): Utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware. In component main, is optional. Version 1:011-1 (hardy), package size 15 kB, installed size 100 kB12:24
Jahromeoman i cant believe you are telling me linux doesnt have a default delete or format command12:24
flaccidJahromeo, sure it does, its called fdisk good luck12:25
flaccidfor file deletion there is rm12:25
Jahromeoso how do i kill sda5 in fdisk12:25
Jahromeoi want to clear its contents12:25
PhilRodhttp://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87399 looks fixed in trunk to me (and actually in 3.5.9 too). Can anyone confirm?12:26
ubottuKDE bug 87399 in bookmarks "Bookmark toolbar moves when it shouldn't" [Normal,New]12:26
flaccidJahromeo, try a google on fdisk12:26
PhilRodd'oh, EWRONGWINDOW, sorry12:26
Jahromeocant you just give me the string12:26
flaccidJahromeo, or even better man fdisk12:26
flaccidJahromeo, nope12:26
Jahromeoman seriously format c: in windows12:27
Jahromeoin linux i have to go spend 20 mins looking for an app to do the same thing12:28
Jahromeodont kid me12:28
flaccidJahromeo, lol you havnt even tried12:28
Jahromeothis is seriously a joke, you are telling me i cant delete files without a 3rd party app12:29
flaccidyou also have to understand what a partition is, what a filesystem is and also what formatting actually does...12:29
flaccidJahromeo, i never said that at all12:29
flaccidqtparted is also not a 3rd party app12:29
Jahromeosounds like it12:29
flaccidwhat would you know ?12:29
flaccid!repos | Jahromeo12:30
ubottuJahromeo: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories12:30
lordnpsHi everyone12:30
flaccidif you did an fdisk tutorial already you would have done what you need instead of wasting time12:30
flaccidJahromeo, i found a simple fdisk tutorial to delete a partition on google it was very easy to find: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-how-to-delete-a-partition-with-fdisk-command/12:32
lordnpsI've recently removed my swap partition, but partioned another one (smaller) for swap... however I don't know how to configure which partition to use... is there a conf file or something I can just say "swap:sdxx"?12:32
flaccidyou need to understand that linux and windows filesystems work on different partition types so you cannot mix them thus why you have to delete then create a new partition and filesystem12:32
abhi1flaccid: do you know what i should do next?12:32
flaccidabhi1, you installed that package?12:33
abhi1i couldnt get that package12:33
flaccidabhi1, why?12:34
Jahromeo!grub12:34
ubottugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto12:34
flaccid!info b43-fwcutter12:34
ubottub43-fwcutter (source: b43-fwcutter): Utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware. In component main, is optional. Version 1:011-1 (hardy), package size 15 kB, installed size 100 kB12:34
lordnpsWhere does the system stores the device used for swap?12:34
Jahromeoflaccid:  thanks12:34
flaccidJahromeo, np. if you have a grub error thats usually going to be a different story..12:35
lordnpsfine... I'll ask it yet simpler... "How do you change your swap partition"12:36
flaccidsweet12:36
lordnpsno one?12:36
flaccidlordnps, this should help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq12:36
flaccidlordnps, if people can help they will respond, nntr12:37
lordnpsthanks12:37
flaccidnp12:37
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tasseschokoladehello, is this an english talking channel?12:45
ubuntujo12:46
SSJ_GZtasseschokolade: Yes :)12:46
ubuntuaber ich bin deutsch^^12:46
ubuntuund weg12:46
tasseschokoladeits okay, if am speaking german?12:46
flaccid!de12:48
ubottuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de12:48
tasseschokoladeubottu: thx12:48
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about thx12:48
tasseschokoladeoh *h*12:49
stefanis the fact that printing doesn't work in the 4.1 beta2 a known problem that's gonna be fixed?12:50
stefanI know they are beta pkgs, but the last time I tried a stable kubuntu desktop it didn't work either, so I'm wondering12:51
flaccid!kde4 | stefan12:52
ubottustefan: KDE 4.0.5 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.5.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde412:52
stefanflaccid: I know they are beta pkgs, but the last time I tried a stable kubuntu desktop it didn't work either, so I'm wondering12:52
flaccid!doesntwork | stefan12:52
ubottustefan: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.12:52
flaccidthis is not the channel for kde4 support on ubuntu.12:53
MaskedOneanyone ever have the problem on a 64bit Kubuntu where when you hit a key (p,/,-, in my case) a bunch of random characters are inserted instead?12:53
MaskedOneUsed to have this problem with XP too but recently XP is fine and Kubuntu 64bit seems to have issues12:54
akimno12:54
MaskedOnefunny thing is after awhile of having Kubuntu on the keyboard works fine, just funky for the first like 10 minutes or so12:55
stefanflaccid, there was a general problem with kubuntu printing and app-armor not too long ago, so it's not like I'm talking about rare and unusual problems12:55
stefanand before app-armor it was a rights issue and before that something else.12:56
stefanKubuntu has a long and proud history of not-working printers12:56
flaccidstefan, so ?12:57
stefanand not working as in I click print and it doesn't do anything for some reason or other that's not all that easy to find out because Linux's getting more like Windows every year and the error messages keep getting shorter and less helpful12:57
stefanso:12:57
stefanis the fact that printing doesn't work in the 4.1 beta2 a known problem that's gonna be fixed?12:57
flaccidi don't see anythin concrete yet just assumptions12:57
tasseschokoladei destroyed my /boot. how can i copy the kernel from live cd into the (new) boot?12:57
flaccidstefan, like i said THIS is the wrong channel12:57
stefani don't want exhaustive support, I just assumed that some guy on this channel of 300 would know *whether* *it's* *a* *known* *problem*12:58
flaccidstefan, bad assumption.12:58
flaccidwhy assume at all :)12:58
stefanby god you're an asshat.12:59
MaskedOnestefan, all the printers i have tried with Kubuntu work perfectly12:59
flaccidlol12:59
MaskedOnewow there's someone who is used to paid support lol12:59
flaccidlets just generalise and say there is nothing wrong with linux or vendor support :O12:59
MaskedOneyeah love how people blame linux if something doesnt work13:00
flaccid'my car doesn't work' and i was wondering if it was a known problem ?13:00
MaskedOnemost likely it is their hardware vendor whose being a dunce and not giving us drivers13:00
MaskedOneif he rlly wants to know go post on a forum and have patience enough to wait a day lol13:00
flaccidthat won't help because the question will be the same. 'my printing doesnt work'13:01
MaskedOnelol13:02
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madohi guys ...13:16
madocan you help me please? ... my firefox doesn't show me the place where the name and "X"-button should be13:17
madoall other programs seem to do that13:18
madobut not firefox13:18
flaccid!enter | mado13:19
ubottumado: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!13:19
flaccidmado, firefox is not kde app so #ubuntu might be able to help or #firefox13:20
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AmriusHi! I tried to install a package (linux-backports-modules-2.6.22-14-generic_2.6.22-14.53_i386) which didn't work because of a wrong kernel. Now the package shows up in Aptitude and Adept as broken package and can't be removed any more... How can I get rid of it?13:25
Skruxwenas13:27
flaccidAmrius, sudo dpkg --purge linux-backports-modules-2.6.22-14-generic_2.6.22-14.53_i38613:27
Skruxconoce alguien el lingot ??13:27
flaccidAmrius, if that is the real pkg name installed13:27
flaccidSkrux, english only channel13:27
Skruxflaccid: oh, sorry, confused the channel13:28
Skruxbye13:28
eagles0513875this is a weird problem13:28
eagles0513875amarok isnt loading for me13:28
eagles0513875starts the loading process but there is no gui13:29
eagles0513875that ends up opening13:29
jussi01eagles0513875: tried running it from the terminal to see what the error is?13:29
eagles0513875jussi01: will do now13:29
eagles0513875jussi01:13:30
eagles0513875No protocol specified13:30
eagles0513875: cannot connect to X server :0.013:30
eagles0513875i think if i reboot my machine it will fix itself13:30
eagles0513875jussi01: virtual box seems to be doing the same thing as well ill run in command line and see if its same message13:31
flaccidthe pts is having problems getting connection to the X server. many possible reasons, google should help by googling the error as always...13:33
abhi1flaccid: its done its installng now, sorry the internet connection is slow this time of the day13:33
abhi1flaccid: what should I do next?13:34
sonoftheclayrI have a problem. I used tasksel to install the LAMP package the other day and when php didn't work i decided to install it all myself so I went into tasksel to remove it and it decided to remove the entire computer...I stopped it before it got too far though13:38
sonoftheclayrSo now I am reinstalling the kubuntu-desktop package and hoping that will fix it...failing that I will just do a clean install13:39
flaccidi have to go no sorry13:40
flaccidi have a life13:40
eagles0513875jussi01: found out what was causing my problem13:48
Gohanx3Laura Palmer13:49
eagles0513875?13:49
eagles0513875Gohanx3: talking about 24 im guessing13:49
Gohanx3Twin Peaks :)13:50
eagles0513875!ot | Gohanx313:50
ubottuGohanx3: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!13:50
Gohanx3wow theres a general chat13:50
Gohanx3thanks13:50
eagles0513875Gohanx3: no problem bro13:50
eagles0513875thats what everyone is here for to help each other out13:50
Gohanx3yeah13:51
Gohanx3and no charge either13:51
eagles0513875lol13:51
eagles0513875i hear that bro13:51
Gohanx3thats impressive and warms my soul :D13:51
eagles0513875what is13:51
eagles0513875free support or the offtopic channel13:51
Gohanx3lol free support13:51
Gohanx3I will give something back for all the help ive got, by doing the same, its a great circle13:52
eagles0513875yep i agree13:52
Gohanx3:)13:54
eagles0513875my box is on the fritz lol cursed vm13:57
zipper!ntfs13:57
ubottuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubottu NTFS-3g or /msg ubottu FUSE13:57
eagles0513875zipper: was that for your info or directed to me13:59
Gohanx3im VERY impressed by their ntfs support13:59
Gohanx3a year ago I had server issues with r & w with ntfs in linux, now its 100%13:59
eagles0513875same here :) found out bout ntfs3g when i first started with kubuntu13:59
Gohanx3^_^13:59
eagles0513875Gohanx3: im guessing its a windows file server14:00
eagles0513875Gohanx3: is ur nick registered by any chance14:00
Gohanx3eagles0513875: no sir not yet14:00
eagles0513875!register | Gohanx314:00
ubottuGohanx3: Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.14:00
Gohanx3thanks bro14:00
eagles0513875Gohanx3: that way you and i can chat in private about that server issue you were having now you got me curious about it14:01
zippereagles0513875, that was for myself i'm afraid14:01
Gohanx3eagles0513875:  my server issue?14:01
Gohanx3I currently dont have any issues with linux.. yet lol, but thanks anyways14:01
eagles0513875zipper: ok lol just wasnt sure14:02
zipper=)14:02
eagles0513875Gohanx3: were you trying to aaccess an ntfs partition on a windows file server14:02
eagles0513875zipper: if you need help with it let me know14:02
zipperwill do, thanks14:03
Gohanx3eagles0513875: no sir14:03
eagles0513875ok14:03
eagles0513875Gohanx3: want an easy solution that way you wont have to use ntfs3g14:03
eagles0513875Gohanx3: you could just setup a simple samba server14:03
Gohanx3sure14:03
Gohanx3got some more info?14:03
eagles0513875with the samba server just save everything to the linux box14:03
eagles0513875!samba | Gohanx314:03
ubottuGohanx3: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.14:03
Gohanx3thanks again :)14:03
eagles0513875Gohanx3: that allows for file sharing from a linux to windows box14:04
eagles0513875Gohanx3: from linux to linux there is nfs14:04
eagles0513875Gohanx3: no problem14:04
eagles0513875Gohanx3: im actually working on my lpi certification so feel free to ask me questions14:05
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Gohanx3wow nice14:05
Gohanx3good luck eagles0513875 and thanks for the kind offer14:05
Gohanx3im gonna change nick14:06
eagles0513875Gohanx3: no problem thats what im here for14:06
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eagles0513875greenfishx3: you in kubuntu offtopic14:06
greenfishx3yes sir14:06
The_ManU_212hi14:12
The_ManU_212for printing im using cups and my hp all-inone 7210 with the driver for hp 7200, but how to set the quality of my print and bleeding-edge? under windows - no problem...14:12
eagles0513875where can i find the inittab14:15
eagles0513875!inittab14:15
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about inittab14:15
eagles0513875!info inittab14:15
ubottuPackage inittab does not exist in hardy14:15
eagles0513875O_o14:15
waylandbilleagles0513875: doing a 'locate inittab' doesn't produce any results. Perhaps there isn't one?14:16
eagles0513875waylandbill: there has to be other wise you wont be able to boot into linux14:16
eagles0513875waylandbill: that file controls how stuff boots and the run levels14:16
eagles0513875and the virtual command lines tty1 2 and so on14:17
waylandbilleagles0513875: in a sysv-compatible boot it does. I thought ubuntu went away from that after edgy.14:17
waylandbilleagles0513875: I think it is controlled by Upstart rather than SysV init.14:19
eagles0513875found it in upstart14:19
eagles0513875but its a file that ends in .pl14:19
waylandbilleagles0513875: if you are looking to add a job, the upstart home page has examples.14:21
eagles0513875waylandbill: i want to mod how ctrl+alt+del is handeled i want it to echo a message14:21
eagles0513875what language is the new inittab in upstart programmed in14:22
waylandbillif it is a pl file, that is perl.14:22
waylandbillyou could exec another script in another language if you don't know perl though. You could have it call a python or shell script.14:23
eagles0513875ok14:23
The_ManU_212for printing im using cups and my hp all-inone 7210 with the driver for hp 7200, but how to set the quality of my print and bleeding-edge? under windows - no problem...14:23
eagles0513875whats the purpose of migrating away from an inittab waylandbill14:23
waylandbillit is an asyncronous replacement that is event driven.14:25
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eagles0513875waylandbill: i found where the ctrl stuff is in the new init tab so its not a simple echo the message14:27
waylandbillas for why it was a policy for Canonical to migrate from an inittab I can't say. Perhaps that style init is reaching the end of its proposed lifecycle. I don't really know.14:29
ext3_fshi14:44
jussi01hi14:45
ext3_fsam having an issue, am runing parallels desktop 3.0 on my mac os x leopard14:45
ext3_fseverything is running sweetly14:46
ext3_fsi just cant copy files from Kubuntu and my mac os X14:46
ext3_fsnot sure if am missing any settings or configs ?14:46
ext3_fsanyone one on this list running a similar setup ?14:47
Psykarext3_fs, this is because parallels does not actually support anything like that for any OS besides windows.14:47
ext3_fsOK, so the copy paste function is for windows only14:48
ext3_fsany updates for the mac users coming anytime soon ?14:48
ext3_fsor does VMware fusion support this ?14:48
PsykarUnsure (don't own a mac, only use one at work), As it is parallels who designed the windows functionality, I doubt they will put much effort into similar stuff with linux, simply because of the low user base.14:49
ext3_fshmm, seems like am stuck with current virtualizaing :-)14:50
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jaakkomeI want to enable the pressure sensitivity on my Wacom drawing-tablet thing... any tips on where to start looking?15:05
PhilRodjaakkome: google? :-)15:07
ds187jaakkome: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-626024.html perhaps?15:07
ds187.oO( first link in google )15:07
BluesKajbbl15:08
jaakkomeah, there's a linux wacom project, goody15:09
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kibagah15:27
kibaI cannot forward and backward in firefox3.0b515:28
Daisuke-Laptopno buttons?15:30
kibacan click on it15:30
Daisuke-Laptopor you just opened a page and there's nowhere to go forward or back to15:30
kibanope15:30
Daisuke-Laptopalso, are you sure it isn't the page.  right click and go a little further back15:31
kibacan't click on it*15:31
hdxxtry firefox3 release note15:31
kibanot sure if this is firefox3.015:31
kibait seem that the ubuntu team is refusing to package firefox3.015:31
kibaI got firefox 3.0b515:31
SilverHello. I am very new to linux, trying to get away from Windows. I am running a fresh install of Kubuntu 8.04, but I am having a little problem. I cannot get tv-out (on S-video) to work! I have a GF 7600 GT, and have installed the restricted drivers. What should I do? Thanks in advance!15:31
hdxxi installed firefox from repositories and i got firefox3 reelase not and works fine15:32
hdxxSilver, maybe you should check this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-627014.html15:34
SilverThank you, hdxx, that seems to fit my problem :)15:35
keepouthello15:36
mercureekiba i think that iceweasel is the new browser for debian. not sure how thi affects ubuntu15:47
mercureethis*15:47
stdinmercuree: iceweasel is firefox, just unbranded15:49
mercureei know that. but are they no choosing to do it that way because of mozillas pushing the gnu rules?15:50
mercureeso therefore would they not start using that as the default browser?15:51
stdinno, because the branding is not covered by the free license15:51
stdinCanonical have a license from mozilla to distribute the firefox logos and branding even if they patch the source15:52
stdinlicenses are horrible things, try not to think about them too much or you'll get a headache ;)15:53
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mercureeare there many advantages for kde4 vs kde3? I was told to install kde4 which I am sure i tried installing (in ubuntu hardy) and now I have 3.9.515:56
stdinkde4 is newer, that's both an advantage and a disadvantage15:58
mercureehehe16:04
mercureei figured that much16:05
mercureeill check it out later16:05
oilinkihi, would 7GB be enought for kubuntu root partition and all system stuff?16:10
southern1yes16:11
oilinkiok. then I'll create that16:11
oilinkithanks16:11
southern1mmhmm'16:11
southern1my root drive / ios 5 gigs16:12
southern1but i have mre then 1 partition16:13
southern1i have 916:13
oilinkiah.16:13
oilinkiI used to put everything on just one partition, but my raid failed and now wish to put the root partition on it's own16:13
mercureeive got kde and gnome on a 6gig and currently have 1gig free16:14
epimethhow did you manaage 9?  7 is the max....16:14
oilinkiwell ok. I'll put 10g for the system16:14
mercureeis compiz a gnome only program? busy looking up how to get the same effects on kde16:22
andreiit is not16:22
andreitry installing the video driver first16:23
mercureeim using propreitary nvidia drivers16:23
mercureeworked fine on gnome16:23
mercureeok i think i got it. sortof.16:25
mercureedid compiz --replace and now compiz has overridden kde settings. not quite properly but its not too bad16:26
prisonerHello..trying to mount an external usb hard disk to kubuntu 8.04. Disk is supposed to be NTFS. Kubuntu sees the disk initially but except from showing me just the top folders in it, I can't do anything, create folders or copy data (trying to save my data from corrupted XP installation). Any ideas?16:27
_CrashMaster_prisoner:  Sounds like the drive has been mounted in read-only16:28
prisonerCrahmaster: well from its properties says rwx for the owner!16:28
_CrashMaster_hm16:28
prisonerCrashmaster: weird thins is that after trying to do something with it, it even "vanishes" at all..Kubuntu says it doesnt exist then!16:29
prisonerCrashmaster: I have to unplug the usb just to go over the same story once more..it seems useless but there must be some way it can be fixed16:30
_CrashMaster_Im not so sure. That starts to sound like a fried flash drive.. Are you able to use it successfully in another system?16:30
prisonerCrashmaster: booting my XP laptop already16:31
patersory, where can take gimp for kubuntu 7.10 ?16:33
EagleScreengimp should be in kubuntu 7.10 repository16:34
ads_is there i can crop my screen size... my second display is displaying slightly too large16:48
ads_is there a way*16:48
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aldohello16:52
aldohelp16:53
aaroncampbell__Is it possible to listen to a Real Audio music snippet online with Kubuntu/FireFox 3?16:54
aldoyour're kubuntu brasilian16:54
aldo???16:54
silvelixgreetings16:54
aldohello , plase16:55
silvelixIḿ new to kubuntu16:55
silvelixIḿ installing wine16:55
silvelixbut it was disabled in the adept installer16:56
andreitype winecfg16:57
silvelixtryed it on the terminal16:58
silvelixand adept search16:58
aldoandrei you speak portugues16:58
aldo?16:58
silvelixno luck16:58
andreinope16:58
silvelixhi andrei16:59
silvelixno luck in the wincfg16:59
andreisorry16:59
andreiwinecfg16:59
silvelixin the terminal?17:00
andreiyes17:00
aldoandrei vc sabe o #kubuntu-br17:00
silvelixThe program 'winecfg' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install wine You will have to enable the component called 'universe'17:01
silvelixhow can i enable the universe?17:02
eagles0513875isnt the universe already enabled :p17:02
silvelixlol17:03
andreisudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list17:03
andreijust install wine17:03
andreior follow instructions from here:17:03
andreihttp://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb17:03
silvelixok17:04
andreiafter installing wine17:04
andreirun17:04
andrei"winecfg#17:04
erwinhello17:04
andrei"winecfg"17:04
andreiin the terminal17:04
silvelixok17:04
epimethsilvelix: you can also add winehq's repository and it will take precedence over the default repositories17:04
andreicorrect17:05
andreihttp://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb17:05
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aldomenseger17:06
aldofor my kubuntu17:06
aldogood17:06
epimethaldo: kopete17:06
silvelixsilver@silverkubuntu:~$ sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/hardy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list --08:05:28--  http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/hardy.list            => `/etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list' Resolving wine.budgetdedicated.com... 81.171.111.184 Connecting to wine.budgetdedicated.com|81.171.111.184|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response17:07
aldogood17:07
silvelixthis one appears in the terminal window17:07
aldothe emesene17:07
aldois the goos17:07
epimethaldo: or gaim... but I'm against programs begining with a g... except for the gimp, but that *really* starts with a 't' :-)17:07
aldogood17:07
aldouhsauh17:07
silvelixok what will i do next?17:09
nate_HELLO ALL, IS THERE A PLUGIN FOR AMORAK THAT IS SIMILAR TO MEDIA PLAYER FOR FINDING TRACK INFO ON THE WEB17:09
hydrogenow]17:09
hydrogenmy eyes17:09
jussi01!caps | nate_17:10
ubottunate_: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.17:10
epimethsilvelix: that command downloaded the repository list from wine into a file on your computer "/etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list"17:10
hydrogenubottu: THAT GOES FOR YOU TOO!!!17:10
ubottuhydrogen: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)17:10
nate_sorry17:10
epimethsilvelix: now you have to update your repositories (sudo apt-get update) and upgrade your installed programs (sudo apt-get upgrade)17:10
silvelixok will try it17:11
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epimethsilvelix: if you do not see that wine is being updated, you install it (sudo apt-get install wine)17:11
Odd-rationalenate_: for music tagging, consider kid3 or easytag (gtk, but better...)17:11
aldowhat's for pragram17:11
aldo?17:11
Odd-rationaleboth can search online for track info17:11
silvelixepimeth: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?17:11
aldoup grade17:12
nate_odd-rationale do you have a preference17:12
Odd-rationalenate_: easytag17:12
nate_odd-rationale cool ill give it a try17:12
* Odd-rationale uses gnome anyways... ;)17:12
pmfrancoPerdon, alguien me puede ayudar donde se configura la trajeta de red en kubuntu con kde 4.017:13
_CrashMaster_!es | pmfranco17:13
ubottupmfranco: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.17:13
epimethsilvelix: you're just trying to make my life difficult :-)17:13
andreiespanol, espanol17:13
aldoalguem pode me ajuda com o kubuntu17:13
epimethsilvelix: what command did you run before getting that error?17:14
silvelixepimeth. sorry, iḿ new to kubuntu. Iḿ a windows user17:14
jussi01silvelix: have you got adept open atm?17:14
epimethsilvelix: its okay.  we'll help.  what was the last command?17:14
silvelixyea adept is open right now17:14
andreiclose it17:15
jussi01silvelix: thats the problem - close it17:15
epimethsilvelix: excellent.  then close adept.  it locks the files that apt uses.17:15
silvelixsudo apt-get update17:15
aldomy kopote error17:15
pmfrancopor favor, alguien sabe como configurar la trajeta de red en kubuntu con kde 4.017:16
silvelixlist done17:16
epimeth!es . pmfranco17:16
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about es . pmfranco17:16
epimeth!es | pmfranco17:16
ubottupmfranco: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.17:16
silvelixshould i open adept now and look for wine?17:17
pmfrancogracias por la ayuda, me voy a cambair a ese canal17:17
pmfrancoperdon si cause molestias17:18
epimethpmfranco: es bien amigo :-)17:18
_CrashMaster_Buena suerte, pmfranco17:18
silvelixepimeth17:19
epimethsilvelix: si, senor?17:20
epimeth:-)17:20
epimethsilvelix: oh, sorry... didn't see that :-)  if you want to, yes17:20
aldotienes algum portugeus17:20
silvelixwine is still disable17:20
epimethsilvelix: I personally prefer to get the most accurate information about my installs, so I use apt-get17:20
epimeth!pr | aldo17:21
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about pr17:21
epimetharg...17:21
aldoyes17:21
_CrashMaster_Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.17:21
_CrashMaster_I may not know linux, but Im learning my way around that bot!17:21
aldotanks17:21
aldothanks17:21
silvelixepimeth: silver@silverkubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get update Hit http://wine.budgetdedicated.com hardy Release.gpg Ign http://wine.budgetdedicated.com hardy/main Translation-en_PH Hit http://wine.budgetdedicated.com hardy Release Ign http://wine.budgetdedicated.com hardy/main Packages Hit http://wine.budgetdedicated.com hardy/main Packages Reading package lists... Done17:22
epimethsilvelix: so now, sudo apt-get upgrade17:22
epimethsilvelix: you say you already installed it, yes?  upgrade will upgrade to the most recent version.17:22
silvelixno wine yet17:23
silvelixit is disabled in the adept manager thatś why I cant install it17:23
epimethoooohhhh17:23
epimethdisabled? really?  how did you manage to do that?17:23
silvelixitś grayed17:24
silvelixsome other apps are not17:24
epimethI'll have a look17:24
epimethhold on17:24
silvelixok17:24
_CrashMaster_Is wine actively running?17:24
silvelixno17:24
_CrashMaster_Have you performed the ritual chicken sacrifice?17:25
silvelixlol17:25
silvelixwhat is that?17:25
_CrashMaster_It's a bad joke, actually. And offtopic as well, so I should stop :)17:25
silvelixi dont have a chicken here but i have a dog :)17:25
epimethsilvelix: crispy chicken sandwich from wendy's.... we don't demand too much here :-)17:26
silvelixits good to punch a joke once in a while17:26
silvelixno wendys near our place17:27
silvelixsorry guys17:27
silvelixbut i have a dog though17:27
silvelixlol17:27
silvelixjust kidding17:27
epimethsilvelix: I don't see a "disable" option in adept...17:27
silvelixthe first time i opened adept17:28
silvelixI searched wine17:28
_CrashMaster_silvelix: You should join #kubuntu-offtopic . I just finished tazing epimeth!17:28
silvelixthen go to settings17:29
silvelixin the left pane17:29
silvelixand saw wine in grayed text17:30
silvelixi think Iḿ lost17:30
epimethsilvelix: what happens when you sudo apt-get install wine17:30
silvelixSome packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming.  Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed. The following information m17:31
epimethsilvelix: you have stumped me... I'm really sorry.  stick around here and ask every now and then if anybody knows they will help.  otherwise try a forum, ubuntuforums.com for example17:37
ads_is there a tool to crop desktop size??17:37
silvelixthanks epimeth17:37
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mercureemeh, i have installed xgl, made sure that im using the right nvidia drivers and i still get errors using compiz http://paste.ubuntu.com/23550/17:39
mercureeany ideas please?17:39
_CrashMaster_mercuree: What gfx card are you using?17:44
mercuree_CrashMaster_ nvidia 8500gt 256mb with propreitary drivers17:47
mariaque es esto17:53
epimeth~es | maria17:57
|algyz|!es | maria17:57
ubottumaria: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.17:57
mariaok17:57
some_dudewhy   does my firefox crash so much when unloading flash objecsts ?18:04
epimethsome_dude: because flash is proprietary software with very little support in linux18:05
epimethsome_dude: luckily, JavaScript is almost at the point where it can replace flash forever18:06
fredthemonkeyhello18:06
fredthemonkeyi'm trying to get snes9express work18:06
fredthemonkeyit asks me for the keyboard-device-path18:07
fredthemonkeyhow can i figure out what that is?18:07
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fredthemonkeyi guess it starts with /dev/ :?18:09
some_dudeepimeth: so it crashes for everyone ?18:10
some_dudeoh well, I've still got wine and firefox for windows18:11
epimethsome_dude: how often are we talking here?18:12
some_dudelet's say I go to myspace.com, and open my profile page, and then click off, EVERY TIME. or youtube, about 1/3 of the time18:13
some_dudeaka: alot18:13
fredthemonkeyanyone knows the default keyboard device?18:13
jussi01some_dude: there is a really old bug about that, I thoiught it was fixed, but you acan take a look18:13
jussi01!fffc | some_dude18:13
ubottusome_dude: If Firefox is crashing on sites using Flash try adding "export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1" to /etc/firefox/firefoxrc (ref: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/14911 )18:13
_CrashMaster_ok. There is just no way he knew that off the top of his head. I demand access to your cheat-sheet.18:14
ads_is there a way to scale the desktop viewing area???18:15
jussi01_CrashMaster_: I did. however, I do own the bot...18:15
kazuma_anyone know of a fix for mouse cursor disapearing.  i boot up and all is fine, hours later, cursor is gone.  kubuntu hardy 64bit wireless mouse18:15
some_dudearg, it still crashed18:15
some_dudeNOOOOO18:15
* _CrashMaster_ bows in humble respect of jussi0118:15
jussi01some_dude: have you considered using other browsers? or tried upgrading flash? (or downgrading if you are already on 10)18:16
ads_desktop is larger than the viewable screen size... changing resolution doesnt make a difference.. how may i scale my desktop??18:17
some_dudeother browsers ? and turn my back on all that is holy ? I pray that mozilla can forgive you18:20
jussi01some_dude: hehe18:22
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kazuma_can anyone help with mouse cursor disapearing.  restarting X does not fix, have to reboot.   happens 2 or 3 times a day.18:23
some_dudegreat so I open firefox from a terminal to see any debugging output, and guess what  ? I can't make it crash18:24
epimethlol18:25
epimethawsome some_dude18:25
some_dudeSegmentation Fault , that does not say a lot18:26
epimethahahah18:26
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some_dudeMaster Google believes that the problem is with mozplugger18:28
willluongoHello everyone! I have a weird problem. For some reason, my user (and my user only) has messed up something in KDE. THere is only 1 Virtual desktop although it was supposed to be 4, there are no bars across the tops of apps nor buttons. I have tried dcop kicker kicker restart, as well as rebooting. Any ideas?18:30
codexhello everyone, can anyone tell me how to allow konsole to start up with transparency enabled, with out have to manually enter 'konsole --enable-transparency' ?18:30
willluongocodex: as far as I know, no. You could alias it however18:31
codexi tried to use an alias but it's not working when i used kstart menu to launch konsole.18:31
willluongoYou can just edit the konsole link in the kstart menu18:32
codexwilluongo: how do i edit it, i aint see no option to edit it ?18:32
willluongoRight click the k, and select menu editor18:32
willluongothen go to system, in the dropdown you will see konsole18:33
willluongoadd --enable-transparency in the command field18:33
codexwilluongo:iam using kde4.18:33
codexand iam not seeing menu editor anywhere18:34
erwinhello everybody18:34
willluongocodex: oh, sorry... I am not sure for 4 but I'd imagine there would be some kind of similar functionality somewhere18:34
willluongoMaybe right click the actual item?18:34
codexwilluongo:thanks i'll try to find something18:35
codexwilluongo: kmenuedit can be used to change it but it's not pined to the start menu.18:39
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madmax__i need to make my Kubuntu OEM , how can i do it???18:42
willluongomadmax: you can use the alternate install disc18:42
crowbaratecan neone tell me how to join other channels new to IRC18:43
_CrashMaster_type /join channelname18:44
madmax__can you give me link?18:44
crowbaratehow do i get different channel names?18:44
_CrashMaster_type /list18:44
crowbaratethanks18:44
_CrashMaster_np18:44
jpdscrowbarate: do /msg Alis list *keyword*18:44
kiba-kunI think something gone funky with my firefox profile18:45
stdinmadmax__: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hardy/ and get the alternate cd for your architecture18:45
patersory, where can take libgimp2.018:45
kiba-kunsomething is preventing me from using backward and forward and the history button18:49
nicolaski est francais18:50
nicolasslt18:51
nicolaski est francais18:51
pim!fr18:51
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr18:51
jhutchinskiba-kun: Hah!  That bug goes back to mosaic!18:51
kiba-kunjhutchins: but I just want to fix it18:53
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kiba-kunwhether or not the bug exists since mosaic is irrevelent to me18:55
spymanboa tarde18:56
keepoutpor fim alguem que fala portugues18:56
spymanhehehe18:57
crowbaratetraveste18:57
spymanalguem afim de tc18:58
PhilRod!pt18:58
ubottuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.18:58
crowbarateobrigado grande traveste19:00
compilerwriterCan anyone tell me how to install Ibex as a second installation on my hard drive; and then, when it is final, switch to that os as the primary OS my machine boots to?  Then I could use the Hardy disk space for jumping jaybird?19:00
crowbaratecompilerwriter19:03
crowbaratefollow this link19:03
* compilerwriter produces flask of scotch to pour for jhutchins19:03
compilerwritercrowbarate either the link is invisible or it did not come through.19:04
crowbaratehttp://www.cracked.com/article_15670_25-most-baffling-toys-from-around-world.html19:04
crowbaratehere19:04
compilerwritercrowbarate what do crazy toys have to do with my info request?19:06
crowbaratewho said it has anything to dowith your info request19:07
compilerwritertouche' crobarate19:07
* compilerwriter pours crowbarate some scotch19:08
* compilerwriter wonders if crowbarate would enjoy a 52 guage Cuban to smoke?19:08
crowbaratelol19:09
tomtomfipslol19:09
crowbaratethats going on bash.org19:09
* compilerwriter offers jhutchins and crobarate a Cuban robusto from his humidor19:10
TonehogMan, some of the #ubuntu users are rude.19:11
crowbaratetonehog:u refering to me?19:12
TonehogCrowbarate: no, the users in #ubuntu, not here.19:13
crowbaratekk19:13
macgyberbuenas19:15
jonathan_hello!19:19
jonathan_I've a problem ;)19:20
crowbaratejonathan19:20
user1leave19:20
jonathan_i have 120 pictures on my hard drive, with the names Image (1/2/3/4...). But now the pictures are order like this: 100,101,102...109,10,11,12,...19,1,20,21,22...29,2,30,31 etc...19:22
jonathan_i think it's because the filename doesn't contain to 0 infront of the number...19:22
user1bye19:23
PhilRodcorrect19:23
jonathan_how can i fix this in dolphin?19:23
PhilRoduser1: type a / in front of the command19:23
PhilRodjonathan_: do you mean have dolphin sort the existing filenames numerically, or do you want to rename the files?19:24
* PhilRod is trying to think of an evil shell script to do the latter19:25
yakuzia few questions: works the ntfs read/write well with fake-RAID? situation: Soltek SL-FRN2-RL with PDC20376 on-board raid controller. Two sata hdd's connected, One hdd is 250 GB, one is 160 GB, both completely ntfs, the 250GB hdd has 2 partitions: C (windows) and D (data) hdd is RAID0, the 160GB hdd has only one partition (data) also RAID0. i've now finaly the possibility to take a good back up of all the data, but is it possible to make a19:25
yakuzidual boot with this (windows, kubuntu) without having to format the partitions and after all installing is done, place the data back?19:25
candiveHi all, How do I put my konqueror bookmarks in order a-z thank you19:26
PhilRodcandive: folder->sort alphabetically in keditbookmarks19:28
PhilRod(which you can access from bookmarks -> edit bookmarks in konqueror)19:28
dorkfaceHI all.  When I press my laptop's volume buttons, kmix seems to increment the increases and decreases in volume by increments of 10%.  However, I would like to know if it is possible to decrease those increments to something like 5% or 1%?  Anyone know how, or know a good place that I could start looking?19:30
jonathan__no ideas?19:31
candivePhilRod,I se no option to edit order or sort alphabetically19:32
greenfishx3whats the command to update and upgrade at the same time? ive tried sudo apt-get update && upgrade, failed19:32
hfsdogreenfishx3: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade19:34
greenfishx3thanks hfsdo19:34
candivePhilRod, I found the sort by name etc but it does not do anything do I need to select all first19:35
greenfishx3hfsdo: is it possible to install without asking for "do you want to install x , yes or no" ? add it to the line?19:35
polikethi!19:35
PhilRodcandive: you need to select the top-level folder I imagine19:36
poliketAnybody knows a spanish kubuntu channel???19:36
hfsdogreenfishx3:  add -y19:36
PhilRod!es19:36
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.19:36
poliketthanks!19:36
poliketguau! thank you very much!19:37
greenfishx3thanks again hfsdo19:37
romunovi'm trying to play an encrypted dvd. i've installed the suggested libraries (sudo /usr/share/doc/kaffeine/install-css.sh) but to no avail19:42
greenfishx3should i always do purge after apt-get remove ?19:42
manuel_hola a todo el mundo19:44
candivePhilRod, got it thank you.19:44
PhilRodyw19:44
candivechow19:46
poliketsorry. I'm quite new with linux (I've spent only few weeks with Kubuntu in order to try)... and I need to buy me a laptop... Before to do it, I wanted to check the possible incompatibilities that I could find with the hardware19:57
_CrashMaster_Hom!laptop19:57
ubottuLaptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org19:57
poliketI mean I would not like to bay a grphic cards (fo example) and to find after that is not possible to find drivers or whatever...19:58
poliketok! :) I wanted just to ask for some website to find information about... but you are really fast19:58
poliketThanks!19:59
_CrashMaster_HomWell, the three major laptop gfx manufacturers (nvidia, ati and intel) are all supported at the moment.19:59
poliketand for wireless??? Should I be aware?19:59
_CrashMaster_HomTHAT gets a little sticky.19:59
_CrashMaster_HomMany wifi devices are supported in linux natively. And when they aren't there is always ndiswrapper (lets you use Windows drivers)20:00
_CrashMaster_Hom!wifi20:00
ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs20:00
patrickim having trouble with a fresh install of Hardy and no audio, any help?20:00
poliketthen, for ATI graphic ccards I read that in some cases it could give some problems too...20:01
_CrashMaster_HomWell, Ive always been of the opinion that ATI cards cause problems from the moment you open the box :)20:01
poliketjejeje20:02
poliketOk! I will check web sites you told me... If I have more doubts I will come back (for sure).20:03
poliketThank you!20:03
_CrashMaster_HomWe'ree here to help.20:03
_CrashMaster_Hom:)20:03
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piloto8851hola...hay alguien??20:20
_CrashMaster_!es | piloto885120:21
ubottupiloto8851: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.20:21
Traveler009887&join #opengamedev20:25
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rodolfo#ubuntu-es20:27
andypls1guys, how can i make it such that when i run "something" in conlose, "/home/me/something" is executed?20:29
_CrashMaster_andypls1: You want an alias20:31
andypls1yeah how do i do that?20:31
PhilRodandypls1: export PATH=/home/me:$PATH20:31
PhilRodoh yeah, an alias is a better way to do it20:31
PhilRodalias something=/home/me/something20:31
andypls1and tha'ts it?20:32
_CrashMaster_yup20:32
castorsaludos a todos20:32
PhilRodyes. If you want it to remain across sessions, you'll have to add that line to ~/.bashrc20:32
_CrashMaster_castor, espanol?20:32
NickPrestaI like to create a 'bin' directory in my $HOME and keep any personal executables in there. I add $HOME/bin/ to my $PATH via .bashrc. It works out well (saves me time from adding alias ontop of alias, etc)20:33
andypls1~/.bashrc add that line in the end of the file ?20:34
andypls1but i want to run "something", not "./something"20:34
_CrashMaster_No.20:34
_CrashMaster_There is a file named .bashrc20:35
NickPrestaandypls1, you don't have to run ./something when you put it as an alias (or in a folder in your $PATH)20:35
_CrashMaster_add the alias something=/home/me/something ling to ./bashrc20:35
andypls1allright guys thanks a banch!20:35
_CrashMaster_s/ling/line20:36
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andypls1guys, the name of the program i want to put in ~/.bashrc is one that i can get from apt-get20:41
andypls1i added it in ~/.bashrc, and it can not find it20:42
andypls1with a different name20:42
andypls1when i write it explicitly in the console it works, but when i add the same line in ~/.baskrc it doesn't20:49
andypls1any idea why?20:49
PhilRodandypls1: did you start a new console? bashrc is only read when you start a new console (or run ". .bashrc")20:51
PhilRod(yes, there are really two dots there with a space between them)20:51
lumpycow"deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/pidgin-developers/ubuntu hardy main" is that the proper line to put in the sources list?20:52
andypls1yes20:52
andypls1the console i run is also a root one20:53
PhilRodandypls1: you can see the list of currently-set aliases by just running "alias" on the command line20:54
compilerwriterWonderful torrent swarm for Ibex rc 120:56
andypls1wow20:56
andypls1it only finds it when it is a normal shell20:56
andypls1not a root one20:56
andypls1why is that?20:56
lerntehelp21:29
lernteoops21:29
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mercuree!kubuntu21:43
ubottuKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE21:43
mercuree!kde21:43
ubottuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See http://kubuntu.org for more information. For more information on KDE 4, see !kde421:43
dennisterhey channel, what could be causing a computer to keep freezing? new installation here (I finally got it installed, and saved failing dvdrw drive with thorough cleaning, so now it works again) , and it's the keyboard input that keeps failing...even with livecd's...the only thing that seems to work when it crashes immediately after bootup is the cpu box's "off" buttons21:46
dennisterand yes, i have swapped the keyboard...it happens with all of them21:47
dennisteranyone have any ideas?21:49
mercureedennister: usb or ps2 kb?21:52
kurohyouhow do i play rmvb files with kaffeine?21:52
dorian_how do i split a video file in kubuntu ?21:53
dennistermercuree: ps221:53
kurohyouanyone? rm or rmvb files in kubuntu?21:54
phrekwhat is a good wifi manager ?21:55
dennisternew info: I let it cool down for a few minutes, then the keyboard worked long enough for me to hit 'esc' to get into grub (one OS, sometimes keyboard is so nonresponsive from the get go I can't even get into grub) so I was able to hit recovery mode option, and I got a kernel panic before all hung21:55
dorian_how do i split a video file in kubuntu ?21:57
dorian_i want it's sound21:58
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dennisterhave i hit the nail? ie source of issue? kernel panics?21:59
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_sourcemakeris kde4 ready for daily use?21:59
dennisterhas anyone else ever experienced a kernel panic before, and able to tell me its symptoms?22:01
mercureesorry dennister i got busy with something.. did you come right yet? have you tried a usb kb?22:01
mercureedennister: i have, with faulty ram and harddrive22:02
sfjwemcan someone help me with the installation of the Domino theme please?22:02
dennistermercuree: they're all ps2 that I've tried22:02
mercureei think there are many reasons it can occur22:02
mercureedennister: can you give us the text of the kernel panic?22:02
dennistermercuree: do u think this could be the source of my problem with keyboard immediate lockups and total system hangs?22:03
dennistermercuree: too bad i can't give kernel panic text...shut system down again22:03
mercureei would think so yes..22:03
dennisterbut i'll boot back up to try and duplicate22:04
mercureegenerally when I had that problem the system was nonresponsive22:04
mercureeyou might have to write it down22:04
dennisterok, well i just rebooted, able to get into grub, recovery mode, and just for kicks, thought it'd try to startx...i should have gotten a "no, root can't startx", but I didn't...x started up22:07
dennisterdidn't get the kernel panic at all that time22:08
dennisterand so far i haven't got a system hang...will try to get a few diagnostic stuff done before the next freeze...and will do a memtest as soon as i can22:08
mercureeyes startx works from a terminal for root, logging in via gdm is not allowed. I presume this is the same for kdm22:09
dennisterahhh, ok...well, i couldn't even get to get rid of that lousy splash by editing grub's menu.list before the system froze again22:11
dennisteras long as the mobo isn't dying...ram i've got (although 184p is in short supply)22:12
mercureelol one thing at a time. fix the boot problems before you start making it boot differently. did you write down the error? if i remember correctly the last time this happened to me i had to keep restarting to get the full message22:14
geekdoes anyone know if amarok or any other software can be used instead of itunes on a ipod classic? i'm looking at getting one, but naturally would like it to play nice with my kubuntu install...22:14
dennistermercuree: didn't see the error that time, so I couldn't write it down :-) since then, i've tried rebooting twice, but can't use the keyboard even to get into grub22:15
mercureemeh. do you not have a usb keyboard?22:16
mercureeto test with to see if the same prob occurs.22:16
dennisterwith the splash there, i can't see what's going on behind the scenes enuf to write down any messages22:16
dennisterunfortunately, a usb keyboard is not something i have...have tons of other stuff here, but not that22:17
dennisterhold on...i do have some adapters i can pull out...forgot about them22:17
mercureehave you tried reinstalling already?22:17
dennistermercuree: this is a new installation22:18
dennisterthe multimedia and desktop works...just did a partimage backup, too, of root partition22:19
mercureehow are you getting all that done if your kb does not work?22:22
mercureehave you checked bios settings?22:22
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dennistermercuree: the multimedia and desktop worked this morning, was still installing, did the partimage backup with systemrescuecd...whole system crashed after that image was done..........see? system is crashing even with livecd mode...haven't been able to get much done since that partimage crash22:25
dennisternow i was able to get keyboard working to get into grub--->recovery mode, and now have some data for you22:25
dennisterthis time it doesn't say "kernel panic" but at the top of the monitor it says Process udevd..., next line is Stack...then Call Trace, followed by 8 lines of code, then EIP (....}rb_erase...... and finally "fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed!"22:27
dennistereverything but the recursvie fault line is similar to what i saw with the kernel panic22:27
mercureehmm i dunno. that means nothing to me :) googling it tho22:30
_sourcemakeris there an upgrade available... to upgrade kde3 to kde4 using hardy?22:30
sourcemaker#ubuntu-de22:32
jussi01sourcemaker: have a look at the topic of #kubuntu-kde4 :)22:33
sourcemakerjussi01:  thanks.. i will try now...22:33
zendoHello. I Installed emerald (from adept), but when I type `emerald --replace` nothing happens. Can someone please tell me how to start it?22:45
Odd-rationalezendo: you have to have compiz runnign to use emerald.22:50
zendoOdd-rationale:  when I try to start `compiz --replace` window borders are gone.  How should I start both of them please?22:51
Odd-rationalezendo: after you have compiz running, do alt+f2 and type "emerald --replace"22:51
zendoso I should try something like `compiz --replace; emerald --replace` ?22:52
sfjwemcan someone help me install this? http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/LightGrey+for+Domino?content=5272122:52
Odd-rationalezendo: or if you have compizconfig-settings-manager, you can set the window decoration to emerald, so that emerald starts with compiz.22:52
knulfinehi ... is there a german channel, too?23:04
geek!de23:04
ubottuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de23:04
knulfinethanks geek23:05
geeknp23:05
geekdoes anyone know if amarok or any other software can be used instead of itunes on a ipod classic? i'm looking at getting one, but naturally would like it to play nice with my kubuntu install...23:05
knulfinei don't like amarok very much23:06
knulfinevlc is good23:06
geekknulfine: i can't use amarok with a ipod ;p23:06
knulfineoh lol ok geek23:06
geekideally i'd just get a mass storage compliant mp3 player, but there's nothing that matches what i want23:07
geek(hard disk based, LOTS of space)23:07
geekand i can get the 160 gig one for about 40 singapore dollars more than the 32 gig flash based zen my bro has23:08
codsterhello23:09
codsterWhat program in kubuntu will Burn an ISO that is bootable?23:09
bleakedcodster: k3b23:09
geekcodster: k3b23:09
codsterim going to burn a Copy of Xubuntu and wanted to know23:09
codsterokay thanks23:09
codsterthis will make it bootable?23:09
bleakedcodster: if the iso was created that way23:09
codsterokay its an offical release :D23:10
geekthe iso itself is bootable. if you burn a disk and there's only one file, you did it wrong ;p23:10
codsteryeah23:10
codsteri know ive done that :(23:10
codsterwith windows thou.23:10
bleakedcodster: in k3b, go to Tools, then Burn Image23:10
codsteryeah :D im in it now23:10
geekcodster: i just use imgburn for cd burning on windows. its a very idiotproof interface23:11
codsterlol23:11
geekcodster: well its just tough enough to scare off most idiots ;p23:12
codsterwell i used Magiciso befor, and it works. its just my uncle's PC has a weird Image burning software, and i click on burn bootable image disc yet it doesnt boot from CD it show the ISO on the disc :(23:12
geekoh burn bootable disk image is different23:12
codsternow that i have a burner i wanted to know which tool in kubuntu works :)23:12
geekit expects you to point at a boot sector file23:13
codsterohhh23:13
codstermhm, maybe thats why it didnt work.23:13
codsterwell going to run to the store and grab a blank cd bye23:14
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Wulfboii'm running hardy with kde 3, with desktop effects enabled how can i have my open windows not show up in the taskbar on the other faces of the desktop cube?23:16
bleakedquestion, how does one configure the colour of the text in the taskbar applet.  i tried the taskbar section of desktop config menu..but that didn't do anything.  I should note that I'm using taskbar-compiz (official from the repos) and not the standard taskbar applet.23:17
bleakedWulfboi: heh, funny.. this is related to my question..23:17
bleakedWulfboi: you need to do two things23:17
Wulfboiwhat do i need to do?23:18
knulfine!de23:19
ubottuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de23:19
bleakedWulfboi: here this post explains it well.. basically you're installing taskbar-compiz, replacing the panel, and changing a config option to not show on all desktops: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5135181&postcount=323:20
Wulfboiok, thank you23:21
codsterhow reasonable does 900Mhz AMD Duron CPU sound for running a file server?23:24
codsteri do have some 500Mhz P3's23:24
eagles0513875codster: ur problem wiht that as a file server is the bandwith you might need to put in multiple netowrk nics23:25
eagles0513875even with the 500mhsz23:25
eagles0513875*your23:25
codsteryeah i have some cards23:25
codster4 10/100 Ethernet cards23:25
codsterall Dlink23:25
eagles0513875not sure bout their nics but someone was in here with issues with their dsl modem/router23:25
eagles0513875does it have one on the mobo23:26
codstermhm, im running a Netgear router, i just want a simple file server to hold my things23:26
codsterno23:26
codsterPCi cards23:26
eagles0513875i would throw 2 nics in there23:26
codsteryeah23:26
eagles0513875if at all possible some how setup load balancing23:26
codsterwell why do i need 2?23:26
codstershouldnt one be good from nic to router?23:26
eagles0513875then in that case u have to test it out23:26
codster15mbps connection23:26
codstermhm, i will23:26
eagles0513875one thing u will want is ram on the server23:26
codsteryes23:27
eagles0513875how much ram is in it23:27
codsterlol none right no23:27
Queen[Borg]!de23:27
ubottuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de23:27
codsternow* well23:27
codster256mb23:27
codster:( its a scrap PC im collecting parts you know.23:27
eagles0513875icky lol at that rate you will be using lots of swap23:27
codsteryeah23:27
eagles0513875codster: wouldnt mind having machines like those to cluster together23:27
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codsterwell its only SDRAM 133Mhz and i havent seen shops selling any sticks of it23:27
codsteryeah. thats what i was going to do but there not the same hardware :(23:27
eagles0513875ebay23:28
codsterits easier/faster for everything to be the same23:28
eagles0513875codster: they dont have to be23:28
codsteroh, i read in the wiki about it. or a site why i wanted to try it out.23:28
eagles0513875if one is faster then the other just give it a slightly larger chunk of work while the homoginous ones get same amount of data23:28
eagles0513875codster: www.beowulf.org23:28
codsteryeah,23:28
eagles0513875codster: thats a clustering site they have a mailing list you can ask questions on it23:28
codsterwell my school has old P3's 333Mhz 64megs of ram and nic card, 10gb HDD in them, i wanna see if i can get them there dell optiplex's and they are laydown PC's23:29
codsterso they laydown and would be good to stack and cluster23:29
mercureecodster: google beowulf clusters23:29
codsteryeah23:29
eagles0513875mercuree: i gave him the site23:29
codsteror i can use xbox's there only 50$ :)23:30
eagles0513875beowulf.org23:30
geekcodster: my server back in UK is a P IIII 450 ;p23:30
codsterlol23:30
codsterwell what are the requirments?23:30
codsteri just wanted to know what a server is really? like i know it runs websites but what else can it do?23:30
eagles0513875?23:30
codsterbecause i can probably do alot with the hardware i have around myhouse23:31
eagles0513875dhcp dns mail server webserver vpn23:31
geekcodster: in that case, i use it as a central torrent server, and sort of terminal services via freenx23:31
eagles0513875u could probably host a webserver on the 900mhz but will need multiple nics23:31
codsterwell i wanted to set up a simple Fileserver so me and my friend can access it, or i can from anywhere23:31
eagles0513875codster: y not setup an ftp server23:31
eagles0513875*why23:31
codstersee and i dont understand about the nics?23:31
geekcodster: oh. you could do that on anything ;p23:31
codsteri tried on windows23:31
codsterwhy do i need multiple?23:32
* geek tends to have SSH installed standard so uses sftp a lot23:32
codsterdo i have 4 nics up to 4 ports on my router?23:32
eagles0513875codster: there will be a major bottleneck with just one card23:32
codstermhm,23:32
codsterso the nics kinda act like CPU cores?23:32
geekwould depend on volume23:32
geekdon't forget, you have a HUGE bottleneck with the actual net connections23:32
eagles0513875codster: they help facilitate like geek said depending on teh volume transfer of data to the client machines connected to it23:33
geekyou're never actually gonna use your shiny 10 mbps cards at that speed ;p23:33
codsteryeah23:33
codsterwell there 10023:33
codstermbps.23:33
codsterI just want to know you hook em all up to the router? Nic to Port on the router23:33
codsterlol i can see my self having 4 nics only 1 connected :D23:34
eagles0513875codster: is your router acting as dhcp23:34
codsteryes23:34
geekcodster: if its only for a few people, i think it shouldn't matter23:34
eagles0513875then u can get a switch a 4 port switch23:34
codsteryeah thats true23:34
geekget a decent router tho23:34
codsteryeah23:34
codsternetgear isnt really top of the line sorta speak23:34
eagles0513875or you can still do it turn dhcp off run static ip network but they plug into ur router23:34
codsterwell the one i have...23:34
geekwell, i tend to favour DD WRT23:35
eagles0513875i gtg guys23:35
codsterthanks eagles for your info23:35
eagles0513875linksys geek23:35
codsterbye23:35
eagles0513875im off guys gotta head to airport23:35
eagles0513875codster: if you have questions get on the beowulf.org mailing list and ask on there lots of people that work in places where they get cluster funding if your interested at all in starting a cluster with your machines23:36
codsterwell im actually more intrested in doing it,23:37
davidibanyone does know where i can find the firefox 3 icon? i did apt-get install firefox323:37
codsteri was running Folding @ home befor,23:37
codsteron just a standalone PC,23:37
eagles0513875codster: beowulf.org mailing list is your best place to start23:37
codsteryeah23:37
codsterthanks,23:37
davidibheloo23:38
davidibhello23:38
codsterI have some IDE drive's how do i hookup multiple Drives to a PC?23:42
codsterand will Kubuntu recognize if i stick another drive on Slave Primary?23:42
codsteri know there is a card you can get, something about Raid in windows. and i think its SATA and not ATA.23:42
davidibhello what is this room for?23:43
codstertech help23:43
codsteron Kubuntu23:43
greenfishx3codster, will linux detect your SATA interface? yes23:43
codsterwell i dont have SATA drives23:43
greenfishx3sda23:43
greenfishx3oh sorry23:43
codsterI have a normal IDE setup23:44
davidibah ok23:44
greenfishx3I dont see why not23:44
codsterprimary/secondary i have 2 drives on Primary and was wondering can i stick another On secondary Slave?23:44
greenfishx3linux doesnt care about active partitions like windows23:44
davidibanyone does know where i can find firefox3 icon? i 've just installed but i cant see the icon23:44
greenfishx3codster, again I dont see why not :)23:44
codsterokay23:44
codsterlol guess im gunna have to try it23:44
greenfishx3yeah23:44
codstermhm i wonder if i can hook up all 4 IDE drives :D23:46
pavelHi all23:46
codsterhello23:46
davidibhi codster23:46
davidibwhat are you tryingg to do?23:46
codsterset up multiple drives in my PC23:47
geekcodster: yes. peobably23:47
codsterwow, i love this! :D i tried to do that in windows23:47
codsterwouldnt detect them23:47
greenfishx3thats odd23:47
codsterwell i tried to have 3 drives, connected23:47
greenfishx3did you change the right jumper23:47
pavelfu** I don speak english very well23:47
codsteryes23:47
codsterit detect it in my Bios too23:47
pavel:(23:47
mercureeok I have now completely uninstalled compiz and emerald23:47
davidib3 hard disk?23:47
mercureeI want to try reinstalling (again) and i think the following would be right:23:47
paveloch23:47
greenfishx3pavel....23:47
mercuree apt-get install compiz-core compizconfig-settings-manager compiz-kde emerald fusion-icon23:48
mercureedoes that look right? ist there anything i should add to that?23:48
geekcodster: done with 423:48
codsterwhat? youve done it23:48
geekpavel: what language do you speak23:48
geekcodster: hard drives ;p23:48
codsternice, well i gotta reboot23:48
codsterhook em all up then partition them23:48
codsterbrb23:48
greenfishx3mercuree: yeah thats about right23:48
pavelgeek: I m from czech republic - my language is czech :)23:48
geekpavel: there might be a czech language channel..23:49
geek!cz23:49
ubottuČeské uživatele žádáme, aby mluvili v kanále #ubuntu anglicky. Česky je možno se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Děkujeme.23:49
davidibhehe23:49
davidibis this english bush channel?23:49
geekmight help a little lanuage wise, if anyone is there23:49
* geek wonders23:49
geek!tm23:49
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about tm23:49
geekok, no tamil channel XD23:49
davidibgeet what is your language?23:50
geekdavidib: i speak fluent english, and tamil, and basic french23:52
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