[00:00] <Midspeed> how dwidmann?
[00:00] <dwidmann> right click the panel, configure .....
[00:00] <Midspeed> ok im there whats next?
[00:01] <dwidmann> taskbar, show windows from all desktops
[00:01] <Midspeed> thankis, lovely
[00:02] <Midspeed> thanks alot dwidmann
[00:02] <dwidmann> you're welcome Midspeed
[00:03] <Midspeed> ok im outta here thanks againa dwidmann
[00:03] <dwidmann> have a good one
[00:17] <kirkt> hey guys im running 7.10, how would i install the latest eclipse? apt-get gave me 3.2
[00:19] <Tecumseh> kirkt, you can install the backports repository for that
[00:21] <kirkt> how would i do that
[00:22] <Tecumseh> I'm searching for a guide to that
[00:22] <kirkt> great, appreciate that
[00:22] <Tecumseh> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[00:22] <kirkt> im guessing downloading the zip and unpacking isn't really recommended in linux
[00:23] <Tecumseh> you will want to enable pinning
[00:23] <Tecumseh> this won't give you the newest version though, I'll give you the version that is in the current stable (hardy heron)
[00:23] <flauoz> salve a tutti come faccio a entrare nel canale di alghero
[00:23] <flauoz> ?
[00:25] <PhilRod> !it | flauoz
[00:34] <MachinTrucChose> Hi
[00:35] <MachinTrucChose> Can someone help me out with Samba? I have Konqueror open, I right-click a folder in my /home/user directory, I select "Share", I then enable Samba, select the user, but after I click OK, the share options have disappeared. If I go back to the Share properties it's as if I didn't change anything.
[00:36] <aldo_> hi
[00:36] <aldo_> helloooo
[00:38] <MachinTrucChose> anyone?
[01:10] <matisse> hi
[01:11] <matisse> when gtk-gnutella finds a host with a private ip (192.168.... f.e.) does that mean, the host is in my local network ?
[01:12] <Agent_bob> 192.168.0.0/16 is a reserved ip range. yes
[01:13] <matisse> but why doesnt show the correct Ip ?
[01:13] <matisse> we all have public ips in this network
[01:13] <Agent_bob> define "correct ip" ?
[01:14] <matisse> the public ip
[01:14] <Agent_bob> because you are not looking at it from the world side of the gateway.
[01:15] <matisse> is their a way, to get the public ip ?
[01:15] <matisse> s/their/there
[01:17] <Agent_bob> yes, you look at the box from the "other side of the gateway"   here's a script... http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d7e513000
[01:18] <Agent_bob> or if you want the public ip's of other boxen on your intranet,  host might get that for you.   idk.
[01:19] <Agent_bob> yeah host can do it.
[01:19] <matisse> host ?
[01:20] <Agent_bob> !info host
[01:20] <matisse> ok
[01:22] <Agent_bob> there is progably a "GUI" app that can do that as well.  check thy package database
[01:23] <byter> Quit
[01:35] <Level15> hello. I updated nvidia drivers to nvidia-glx-new and now nothing shows on my laptop's screen. Xorg.0.log says there is no display attached. anyone has encountered this?
[01:39] <lyndon_> hi hi
[01:40] <WaY> hello
[01:40] <WaY> how can I manage now kbluetooth? konqueror kde4 doesn't supports bluetooth protocol
[01:40] <lyndon_> hey way
[01:43] <bAgent_bo> i bziped gziped tared and fethered an empth file to see how much each adds,  here are the results.    boo 0B    boo.bz2 14B    boo.gz 24B    boo.tar 10240B    boo.tgz 109B
[01:59] <Agent_bob> what are some other cool numbers ?    like 1>  is stdout   2> is stderr    ????
[02:03] <Agent_bob> looks like 0 1 2 3 5 7 & 255 are in most process lists...  anyone know what they are ?
[02:03] <Agent_bob> 0 is prolly stdin
[02:04] <Agent_bob> some processes also have 4 & 6 i see
[02:04] <stdin> ls -l /proc/<pid>/fd  should tell you what they are
[02:05] <Agent_bob> they all point at /dev/pts/0  except 7 it's a pipe
[02:06] <stdin> so they are all streams to the terminal
[02:07] <Agent_bob> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d70069bd8
[02:09] <Agent_bob> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d1ea982e2 < that one is more reasonable
[02:09] <Agent_bob> the second is the parent of the first
[02:10] <Agent_bob> first is mc second is the shell that called it
[02:11] <Agent_bob> so.   what exactly does 3 do ?   it's /dev/tty   ?
[02:11] <Agent_bob> would 3 be usable ?
[02:14] <Agent_bob> i guess not...    openvt -- echo boo >[[:num:]] all work alike it seems
[02:16] <stdin> not sure what 3 does, or 5
[02:18] <Agent_bob> oh well.  i don't need new tricks anyway.
[02:18] <Agent_bob> i can't seem to get anything useful out of them.
[02:25] <Agent_bob> ls
[02:27] <Agent_bob> stdin how do you read a socket ?
[02:27] <stdin> you can't really, it's a type of local network port
[02:28] <Agent_bob> can't cat or dd or anything ?
[02:28] <stdin> depends on the type of socket, some have a file you can read from/write to, others are just like network sockets
[02:29]  * Agent_bob goes looking for an app to read sockets
[02:29] <stdin> usually the ones that say 'socket[some-number]' are more like tcp/udp ports
[02:30] <Agent_bob> there has to be something that can sniff a tcp/udp ports butt
[02:30]  * Agent_bob looks for a dog app
[02:31] <stdin> they are like tcp/udp, but they aren't
[02:35] <Agent_bob> maybe i really shouldn't play around in /proc   i might delete /proc/kcore or something....
[02:35] <Agent_bob> :)
[02:38] <Agent_bob> root
[02:38] <Agent_bob> who you root'en for ?
[02:39] <Agent_bob> !ircasroot
[02:43] <MachinTrucChose> Hi. Anyone have any ideas why Share options set in Konqueror don't take effect? I click OK, then go back, and everything's back to the way it was. It's files from my home directory so it can't be a write permissions thing.
[02:43] <MachinTrucChose> do I need to run Konqueror as root to share a home folder?
[02:45] <Agent_bob> It's files from my home directory so it can't be a write permissions thing. <<<   yes it can.  permissions in your home can be anything, just like in any other dir.      and konq as root is generally a bad idea but, it can be done.
[02:47] <Agent_bob> if you mean you have checked and are sure it's not a permissions issue, then ok.   but just stating that it can't be because it's in your home is ludicrazyist
[02:48] <MachinTrucChose> well, running Konqueror as root does not erase any of my share settings. So that had to be it.
[02:48]  * Agent_bob sujests MachinTrucChose "own his home" then.
[02:48] <MachinTrucChose> folder's permissions was "Owner can view and modify content", "Group can view content", and "Others are forbidden"
[02:49] <Agent_bob> MachinTrucChose how did you run konq as root please ?
[02:49] <SeanTater> Out of curiosity, does anyone here use X11 Tunnelling over SSH?
[02:49] <MachinTrucChose> Agent: sudo konqueror
[02:49] <jhutchins> bad.
[02:49] <Agent_bob> MachinTrucChose that's why.
[02:49] <jhutchins> !kdesu | MachinTrucChose
[02:50] <Agent_bob> MachinTrucChose never use sudo for konq.  use kdesu or kdesudo
[02:50] <MachinTrucChose> oh shi
[02:50] <MachinTrucChose> well logically, why would I even need to sudo up?
[02:50] <jhutchins> MachinTrucChose: As long as you didn't change any settings, you may still be able to use your system.
[02:50] <MachinTrucChose> it's my house!
[02:50] <MachinTrucChose> well, I did enable Samba sharing, then disable it.
[02:50] <Agent_bob> MachinTrucChose and own your home now.     sudo chown -R $USER $HOME
[02:51] <jhutchins> MachinTrucChose: You will eventually understand.
[02:51] <MachinTrucChose> I just did, and it still doesn't safve the share options
[02:52] <MachinTrucChose> right-click folder, click Share tab, check "Share this folder", check "Share with Samba", click OK to close properties window, go back there again...and back to square 1.
[02:52] <Odd-rationale> shouldn't it be "sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME" ?
[02:52] <MachinTrucChose> I'm the owner of this folder anyway.
[02:53] <Agent_bob> Odd-rationale that assumes default group   i don't
[02:53] <elbasan> hey guys I am new on linux and I need help to install firefox-3.0.tar.bz2
[02:53] <Agent_bob> MachinTrucChose it's the config that might not be yours now.   not the folder.  you can't save to a local config you don't own.
[02:53] <MachinTrucChose> elbasan: use the Add/Remove Program option to install it instead.
[02:53] <Odd-rationale> elbasan: try installing from adept or apt-get instead
[02:54] <MachinTrucChose> Agent_bob: oh, I see. Well, I ran your recursive chown command as you suggested and that does not appear to have fixed anything.
[02:54] <elbasan> I try to use add/remove and I get only firefox2
[02:54] <MachinTrucChose> elbasan: what version of Kubuntu?
[02:54] <Odd-rationale> elbasan: try updating you repos. or maybe you have a slow mirror...
[02:55] <elbasan> the 8.10
[02:55] <Agent_bob> MachinTrucChose k,   close konq and reopen  help anything now ?
[02:55] <elbasan> ups 8.04
[02:55] <billyd> Firefox 3 that is listed maybe the beta.  I have beta and get no notice that I need to upgrade though I know FF 3.0.?? is avaiolable some place
[02:56] <MachinTrucChose> Agent_bob: nope. I also tried closing it and reopening 3 times to bypass any "preloaded instances" .
[02:56] <elbasan> I tryed
[02:56] <elbasan> $ cd /tmp
[02:56] <elbasan>  $ wget 'http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0&os=linux&lang=en-US'
[02:56] <elbasan> not working
[02:57] <elbasan> for me
[02:57] <billyd> Try using Adept and see whatversion of FF is listed
[02:57] <elbasan> # cp /tmp/firefox-3.0.tar.bz2 .
[02:57] <elbasan>  # tar -jxvf firefox-3.0.tar.bz2
[02:57] <elbasan> not working
[02:58] <billyd> If it is avilable through Adept it will be much simpler
[02:58] <Agent_bob> MachinTrucChose umm im thinking a group issue maybe    are you in samba group ?     not sure you have to be.  would rather someone else jump in.
[02:58] <elbasan> I download firefox on my desktop
[02:58] <billyd> You may need to turn off the CD and then open up all the other repositories in Adept
[02:58] <MachinTrucChose> Agent_bob: yep, I'm part of sambashare
[02:59] <elbasan> now what I have to do
[02:59] <Agent_bob> ok then.   what version kde MachinTrucChose ?
[02:59] <Agent_bob> 3.5* ?
[02:59] <MachinTrucChose> Agent_bob: 3.5 (Hardy)
[02:59] <Agent_bob> yeah k.
[02:59] <billyd> elbasan - I think you're going about loading FF the HARd way.  You will need to get Adept or APt working eventually.
[03:00] <MachinTrucChose> I already gave up on KDE's share module and started building my own smb.conf, then gave up on that and am coming back like an abused wife. I think I'll try my hand at smb.conf again.
[03:00] <elbasan> how
[03:01] <billyd> BRB
[03:01] <elbasan> ?
[03:03] <Agent_bob> MachinTrucChose open a konsole and run konqueror from there    try the share and then close it.  see if the konsole reports any errors
[03:04] <Agent_bob> MachinTrucChose or work on sambe manually
[03:05] <MachinTrucChose> Agent_bob: I don't see the share. I only see the one I created manually in smb.conf.
[03:05] <billyd> elbasan look in these forums www.kubuntuforums.net and www.ubuntuforums.org and also www.kubuntu.com
[03:05] <MachinTrucChose> different folder, different setup
[03:05] <elbasan> ok thanks
[03:05] <ubuntu_> im testing out kubuntu
[03:05] <ubuntu_> had a problem
[03:06] <ubuntu_> there is about a quarter inch of black space on the left side of the screen, and i cant see about a quarter inch of the right side
[03:06] <MachinTrucChose> ubuntu: adjust your screen position
[03:06] <ubuntu_> how?
[03:06] <MachinTrucChose> on your monitor, not in the software
[03:06] <ubuntu_> ok
[03:06] <MachinTrucChose> though you can probably do it using software
[03:07] <billyd> There is also a How To for Apt-Get.  Maybe at www.tldp.org
[03:07] <ubuntu_> that did the trick
[03:07] <ubuntu_> also, how do i get the menu bar to be black, and only one line at the top
[03:08] <Agent_bob> xrandr can
[03:08] <ubuntu_> xrandr?
[03:08] <billyd> tldp is The Linux Documentation Project   and also sort of Linux info - everything you wanted to know and more
[03:08] <Agent_bob> adjust screen position
[03:08] <ubuntu_> i already did
[03:08] <ubuntu_> thanks anyway
[03:09] <ubuntu_> now, its a double line bar at the bottom, on some internet things they show it being only one bar, and at the top
[03:09] <ubuntu_> and then theres a quick launch thing at the bottom
[03:09] <ubuntu_> somewhat like the mac os thing
[03:10] <ubuntu_> how do i get that?
[03:10] <ubuntu_> somebody has to know
[03:11] <ubuntu_> ...
[03:12] <ubuntu_> ok, how do i install beryl?
[03:13] <Midna> S--oh, wait, nevermind.
[03:14] <NickPresta> !compiz | ubuntu_
[03:30] <dunas> Is there an apt-get for java?
[03:32] <Agent_bob> !jre
[03:34] <dunas> Agent_bob: Uh... for the Firefox 3 plugin, rather.
[03:35] <Agent_bob> oh  that i don't know
[03:36] <stdin> dunas: firefox3 uses the same plugin as firefox2
[03:37] <dunas> stdin: That... doesn't help as much as you might think.
[03:37] <stdin> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[03:37]  * Agent_bob inturprets.  "i don't know how to get ff2 working"
[03:38] <dunas> Agent_bob: More like "I'd rather keep using FF3, thanks."
[03:38] <dunas> stdin: Thank you.
[04:20] <lalo> #kubuntu-es
[04:33] <harry> I want to connect with my xp to the ubuntu system with remote desktop.  I am useing kde.
[05:15] <dorkface> Hi all.  When I press the volume keys on my laptop, kmix seems to increase or decrease the volume by increments of 10% per press of the key.  However, I would like to shrink that increment to 1%.  Would anyone know how to do this?
[05:16] <Agent_bob> not me
[05:37] <jetsaredim> anyone know why - in firefox 3 - there are no borders around html field elements?
[05:45] <Betus> umi, teclea "/join #kubuntu-es"
[05:45] <Betus> sin comillas
[05:45] <Betus> !es
[05:47] <florin> sal all
[05:49] <dongzhongshu> ls
[05:50] <dr_Willis> !info sl
[06:04] <ncfi1013> I uninstalled compiz several times but I still have to run "kwin --replace" every time I log in or else my window borders are messed up and I have no system tray. I have deleted all compiz and emerald settings files that I could find and have set the session to load a clean session on startup but nothing seems to help.
[06:05] <dr_Willis> Uninstalling compiz can cause issues.
[06:06] <dr_Willis> Theres some command thats called that was a link to  the proper window manager. i recall.. and you may of broken that link
[06:06] <dr_Willis> I had a similer issue ages ago when i removed compiz.
[06:09] <ncfi1013> do you know what the command is to repair the link?
[06:09] <dr_Willis> Nope - i dont rember.
[06:10] <dr_Willis> I just rember exploring what happened..  You could stop kdm, and run 'startx' from the console and see what its tryign to run where.
[06:10] <dr_Willis> or just reinstall compiz
[06:10] <dr_Willis> Last i messed with this was in Gutsy. So it may differ now under hardy also.
[07:03] <dr_Willis> !find Mezzo
[07:06] <romunov> is there a way to create a menu "recently used documents" in kubuntu?
[07:07] <lullideath> isn't it already there?
[07:07] <lullideath> oh, documents
[07:08] <lullideath> ya, KDE 4 has that by default
[07:08] <dr_Willis> I wonder how one defines documents. :)
[07:08] <dr_Willis> I rarely ever do word processing.. but i have been doing a lot of DVD label making this week.
[07:14] <damien> Would anyone be willing to help me in a private conversation? I've been having some real big problems since my computer plug fell out while it was on today.
[07:15] <dr_Willis> You are refering to the Power Conector?
[07:15] <damien> Yes
[07:16] <damien> Some of my problems are: programs not being able to start unless by command line, some programs refusing to run at all, and my second HDD mysteriously disappearing.
[07:16] <dr_Willis> Sounds like somnthing may of gotten shorted out.
[07:16] <damien> Crap. I hope not.
[07:16] <dr_Willis> The worse ive ever seen happen in such a case is the hard drives needing tobe checked..
[07:17] <damien> How would I check them?
[07:17] <dr_Willis> Whats on the second hd?
[07:17] <damien> Music etc
[07:17] <dr_Willis> I would be backing stuff up. ASAP
[07:17] <damien> It's cool, I don't need anything on that HDD.
[07:17] <Viking667> hello there. I'm having trouble trying to upgrade from feisty to Gutsy using the adept upgrade tool - there's a dialog box that says:  Could not verify the integrity of the upgrader application. This program will now exit.
[07:17] <Viking667> So. Where do I go from here?
[07:18] <dr_Willis> Its possible somthing totally goofed up some parts of the hard drive. - you could boot a live cd and fsck the disks manually
[07:18] <damien> I don't have a live CD anymore, and don't know what fsck is.
[07:18] <dr_Willis> !fsck
[07:18] <Viking667> I don't have a Gutsy ISO, nor a Hardy iso.
[07:19] <damien> Can't I just do sudo shutdown -F -r now and have it do the same thing?
[07:19] <dr_Willis> damien,  You can try. I Just have the habit of using live cds to fsck everything.
[07:19] <damien> Okay
[07:20] <damien> But I don't understand why things like apache, mysql, and my irc daemon would stop working after that
[07:20] <damien> and why some things refuse to start unless started in terminal
[07:21] <dr_Willis> damien,   yep. sounds very weird.   Have to check the dmesg output, and perhaps any error messages they spit out.
[07:21] <dr_Willis> You may want to run that memtest tool in the Boot menus also. to check the ram
[07:21] <damien> !dmesg
[07:21] <damien> Okay
[07:22] <dr_Willis> run dmesg from a terminal
[07:22] <damien> Okay, I'll post that on pastebin after I'm done with a reboot
[07:23] <aldo> hello
[07:24] <aldo> your me add the mensager
[07:24] <aldo> is vini_ferrari432@hotmail.com
[07:25] <aldo> yes , add the mensager ???
[07:25] <dave11> !konversation
[07:26] <aldo> oh , sorry
[07:26] <dr_Willis> Heh - wrong room?
[07:26] <aldo> i'm conversation the your
[07:26] <aldo> the menseger
[07:27] <dave11> that was a bot command not aimes at you
[07:27] <Viking667> whew. Seemed to be corrected by starting the adept tool and selecting "Version upgrade" instead.
[07:27] <aldo> for me
[07:27] <aldo> ??
[07:27]  * dr_Willis is so confused.. hes going to go food eat. now.. :)
[07:27] <dave11> no
[07:28] <dave11> lol
[07:28] <aldo> oh, yes
[07:28] <aldo> i me cofusion
[07:28] <Viking667> 'm on my way to Gutsy...
[07:28] <dave11> !bot
[07:28] <aldo> hehe
[07:28] <dr_Willis> Viking667,  then you can upgrade to hardy!
[07:28] <engineer> kinda a bit late eh?
[07:28] <engineer> gutsy is long gone
[07:29] <dr_Willis> Gutsy is still being used by a lot of people.
[07:29] <dave11> shouldnt we be?
[07:29] <Viking667> can't do anything about that. the app didn't "provide" for an upgrade to Hardy, just to Gutsy.
[07:29] <aldo> what your's name ???
[07:30] <Viking667> I suspect there'll be another one to Hardy when I'm done on this one.
[07:30] <dr_Willis> Viking667,  you upgrade one release at a time. :)
[07:30] <Viking667> yes. I know that from BSD.
[07:30] <dr_Willis> Viking667,  unless its a LTS thing.. you aparently can go from the old LTS to the Newest LTS.
[07:30] <dr_Willis> But i perfer to do clean installs
[07:31] <dave11> i wonder why kubuntu didnt go lts
[07:31] <Viking667> "lts"?
[07:31] <dave11> LTS
[07:31] <Viking667> I don't know that term,s orry.
[07:31] <dave11> long term support
[07:31] <dr_Willis> !lts
[07:31] <Viking667> ahhhh.
[07:31] <aldo> dave11 , what you name's ?
[07:31] <dr_Willis> dave11,  the kde4 stuff was one reason i think.
[07:31] <Viking667> heh. It's not like my wife NEEDS to upgrade..
[07:31] <dave11> ohhh
[07:32] <dr_Willis> as a home user - i dont worry about LTS much either.
[07:32] <dave11> just curious
[07:32] <aldo> hehe
[07:32] <Viking667> anyhow, I'm off to go make some tea...
[07:32] <aldo> i'm corious
[07:32] <dr_Willis> yea the way KDE4 and Firefox Beta timing came out.. caused some conflicts with the 6 mo release cycle.
[07:32] <aldo> hehe
[07:32] <Viking667> Hello Corious
[07:32] <dr_Willis> But it all works out eventually. :)
[07:33] <aldo> heheh
[07:34] <aldo> my name's Aldo and you name's , dave11
[07:34] <aldo> ???
[07:34] <drbrown> does anyone have any suggestions for a dvd slide show app?
[07:34] <dave11> aldo: yes
[07:34] <aldo> i not mach speak ingles
[07:34] <engineer> kino?
[07:34] <engineer> !english | aldo
[07:35] <aldo> yes
[07:35] <dave11> aldo: my mom had 10 daves before me..:)
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[07:35] <engineer> hey partnership
[07:35] <drbrown> I have been through 3 different apps trying to make a simple slide show.  I will give kino a try
[07:35] <drbrown> thx
[07:36] <aldo> yes , not mach english
[07:36] <aldo> speak
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> !hi | aldo
[07:37] <aldo> and you too
[07:37] <aldo> hi
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> hows yiur kubuntu install?
[07:37] <aldo> yes
[07:38] <aldo> not mach is time
[07:38] <dave11> ActionParsnip: lol
[07:38] <engineer> also voce e brasileiro?
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> its early
[07:38] <engineer> aldo*
[07:38] <aldo> i't like kubuntu
[07:38] <aldo> hi
[07:39] <aldo> engineer
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> dave11: is aldo a bot?
[07:39] <engineer> aldo voce e brasileiro?
[07:39] <aldo> so
[07:39] <dave11> ActionParsnip: dont think so...maybe
[07:39] <engineer> he is a bot
[07:39] <aldo> eu sou brasileiro
[07:39] <aldo> com muito orgulho
[07:39] <aldo> engeneer
[07:40] <aldo> engineer
[07:40] <engineer> o que é que voce quer?
[07:40] <aldo> tipo
[07:40] <dave11> a mispelling bot... new to me
[07:40] <aldo> eu nau to entendendo nada do kubuntu
[07:40] <aldo> e eu to pensando em trocar ele
[07:41] <aldo> me ajuda
[07:41] <aldo> por favor
[07:41] <engineer> trocar pelo que?
[07:41] <aldo> mac osx
[07:41] <drbrown> kino is not for still pictures is it?
[07:41] <engineer> LOL
[07:41] <engineer> aldo canal errado
[07:41] <aldo> hehehe
[07:41] <aldo> mas eu kero entender
[07:41] <drbrown> I have very seldom  been through so many really bad Linux projects
[07:42] <aldo> tens o kubuntu
[07:42] <aldo> brasileiro
[07:42] <aldo> hehehe
[07:42] <engineer> ah 3 anos
[07:42] <aldo> aha
[07:42] <aldo> pode me ensinar um pouco sobre o kubuntu
[07:42] <engineer> drbrown i haven't tested it so i can't assure, but why don't you try it and see for yourself
[07:42] <aldo> tipo
[07:42] <aldo> to apanhando
[07:43] <engineer> !br
[07:43] <drbrown> this should be an easy task
[07:44] <dr_Willis> "Computers - making Trivial Tasks Impossible for over 30 years!:
[07:44] <aldo> engineer
[07:44] <aldo> ?
[07:44] <drbrown> kmediafactory broke, qdvdauthor broke, manslide abbandoned, and smile half baked
[07:45] <aldo> plase
[07:45] <drbrown> makes sense
[07:45] <engineer> aldo voce ainda nao disse o que é que nao entende
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> manslide?
[07:45] <drbrown> sounds gay, but it is french
[07:45] <drbrown> looked like the best one of the bunch actually
[07:45] <aldo> o kapote
[07:45] <engineer> kopete?
[07:46] <aldo> é
[07:46] <dave11> grsunheit
[07:46] <mrksbrd> whats the codec needed to copy dvd's in k3b?
[07:46] <aldo> descupa , falar mas é todo errado
[07:46] <mrksbrd> !k3b
[07:47] <aldo> o mensageiro
[07:47] <aldo> do kubuntu
[07:47] <dave11> !iso
[07:49]  * ActionParsnip loves when windows idiots dont md5 check and get issues with installs
[07:49] <dave11> lol
[07:50] <dave11> i  dont mind md5's but that hashcalc..:/
[07:50] <trym74> Morning :)
[07:51] <dr_Willis> I saw a neat md5 tool for windows that put 'check md5' on the context menu.. but cant rember where i found it at.
[07:52] <dave11> download
[07:53] <dave11> md5 checker?
[07:53] <dr_Willis> Lets see....
[07:53] <dave11> search download.com for md5
[07:54] <Tyrian> wth...   anyone know how to get Firefox to work on Kubuntu ?  what version to download ?
[07:55] <dr_Willis> dave11,   that one has like 1000x more features then the one i saw./ :) but it looks handy
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> Tyrian: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0
[07:55] <Tyrian> i downed the tar file..   but i cant seem to start the installer
[07:55] <dr_Willis> Tyrian,  with ubuntu/kubuntu - use the package manager tools - dont just 'download' stuff. :)
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> Tyrian: its in repos
[07:56] <dave11> dr_Willis: yeah there are tons of them
[07:56] <dr_Willis> dave11,  the one i saw just had a simple 'right click -> check md5' and printed out a little dialog with the sum.
[07:56] <dave11> dr_Willis: thats the same one i have
[07:56] <dr_Willis> I need to learn to check the crc32 values of files under linux also..
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> i used one that you pointed to the md5sum file then the file its was checking
[07:57] <dr_Willis> Been having some bad dvd burns lately. gotten where i check the md5's of all the files.
[07:57] <dave11> dr_Willis: cant remember the name though
[07:58] <dave11> the distro that gives me the most problems is fedora
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> id say gentoo due to a very manual install method
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> human error causes issues
[08:00] <mrksbrd> whats the codec needed to remove encrypted dvd protection for k3b???
[08:00] <dave11> that to(problem is between user and keyboard
[08:00] <Phoenix92x> mrksbrd: decss
[08:01] <Phoenix92x> google "decss" and your operating system
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> problem is between chair and keyboard, a class ID10-T error
[08:01] <dave11> thats  it
[08:01] <mrksbrd> ty
[08:01] <dr_Willis> I dident relize k3b could remove encrypted pritection
[08:01] <dr_Willis> !k9copy
[08:01] <Phoenix92x> I think it can with the right library installed
[08:01] <Phoenix92x> iir
[08:01] <dr_Willis> k9copy can :)
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> DeCSS is a computer program capable of decrypting content on a DVD-Video disc encrypted using the Content-Scrambling System (CSS)
[08:01] <dave11> does  k3b do iso's
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> dave11: indeed
[08:02] <dave11> cool
[08:02] <dr_Willis> k3b is a cd/dvd burning utility -
[08:02] <dr_Willis> it can also generate iso files
[08:02] <dr_Willis> and gains more features all the time.
[08:02] <dave11> how dexterous
[08:02] <dave11> :)\
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> dave11: you can make isos at command line
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> http://www.granneman.com/techinfo/linux/burningcds/makeanisoimage.htm
[08:03] <Phoenix92x> oh, I was wondering how to mount an iso via the command line, or whether there was a good tool for it
[08:03] <dave11> ActionParsnip: yeah i was refering to burning
[08:03] <dr_Willis> Hmm.. k3b does have a 'rip video dvd' menu  item now.
[08:03] <dr_Willis> wonder what it does... time to test it out
[08:04] <dave11> dr_Willis:< kid in a candy store
[08:04] <dr_Willis> Been using k9copy all week. :
[08:05] <dr_Willis> heh - the rip video dvd  dont seem to do much..
[08:06] <Phoenix92x> like how to mount the iso of a dvd?
[08:06] <dr_Willis> !iso
[08:06] <dr_Willis> many video players can play the iso file directly without mounting it
[08:06] <Phoenix92x> does it have to be .iso format?
[08:06] <Phoenix92x> or can it be .mdf or something similar? .cue/bin?
[08:06] <dr_Willis> Try it and see i guess.
[08:06] <Phoenix92x> heh, righto
[08:07] <dr_Willis> that isofuse (fuseiso?) tool claims it can mount mdf and cue/bins
[08:07] <dr_Willis> and nrgs
[08:07] <dr_Willis> but dont expect the special features of the formats to work.
[08:08] <aldo> hi
[08:08] <dave11> aldos back!!
[08:08] <dr_Willis> Howdy
[08:08] <aldo> the fire fox
[08:08] <aldo> the kubuntu
[08:08] <aldo> yes our no
[08:08] <dave11> aldo is brazilian
[08:09] <MinusSeven> on http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.1beta2.php it shows an image of the kde 4.1 desktop, and the taskbars are black
[08:09] <MinusSeven> is that the default theme?
[08:10] <Phoenix92x> is there some way to mount the ISOs with automatically at /media/* with the volume name?
[08:10] <Phoenix92x> like when new partitions are detected?
[08:10] <dr_Willis> Phoenix92x,  so if i have 1000 iso files.. ya would want them all mounted? :)
[08:10] <dr_Willis> You can use the fuseiso tools to let users mount iso files if youw anted.
[08:10] <Phoenix92x> lol, no, not quite, I should have put ?
[08:11] <dr_Willis> but a user cant mount them to /media/
[08:11] <dr_Willis> only root could do that.
[08:11] <Phoenix92x> hmmm
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> you could have them automount at boot
[08:11] <Phoenix92x> how would you go about solving this dr_wIllis?
[08:11] <dr_Willis> Phoenix92x,  your problem isent very clear as to what you are doing
[08:11] <Phoenix92x> eh, I'm looking for somethjing kind of daemon-tools esque.
[08:12] <dr_Willis> mounting iso files will NOT get around the disk based copy protection
[08:12] <Phoenix92x> some kind of client front end for virtual drive management with kubuntu clients
[08:12] <dr_Willis> if thats what you are wantign to do
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> yuk, daemon tool is riddled with nastys
[08:12] <dr_Willis> You can easially mount specific iso files at boot time to specific locations if you wanted to.
[08:13] <dr_Willis> a user can mount iso files as needed with the fuseiso tools, which may have some guis out as well. ive not used any gui for them
[08:13] <Phoenix92x> ActionParsnip, yaaa...I know and it makes me sad. I'm trying to find a clean foss equivelent to switch my users over to
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> dr_Willis: can users mount to empty dirs in ~/
[08:13] <dr_Willis> fuseiso - FUSE module to mount ISO filesystem images
[08:13] <dr_Willis> fuseiso9660 - File System in User Space - Module for ISO9660
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> Phoenix92x: magiciso for windows is free and clean
[08:13] <dr_Willis> a user can use the fuse tools to mount things to their own homes. Yes.
[08:14] <dr_Willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FuseIso
[08:14] <Phoenix92x> linux cleint needed actually
[08:15] <Phoenix92x> magiciso is pretty good though
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> Phoenix92x: all you gotta do is create a folder in ~/ and mount to that instead of /media
[08:15] <Phoenix92x> nifty
[08:15] <dr_Willis> none of these4 tools will allow you to change the iso file
[08:15] <dr_Willis> !info kiso
[08:15] <dr_Willis> kiso can. :)
[08:15] <Phoenix92x> I'll just write them a script
[08:15] <Phoenix92x> w00t
[08:15] <Phoenix92x> kiso?
[08:15] <Phoenix92x> this is suggested?
[08:15] <Phoenix92x> hm
[08:15] <dr_Willis> again - you are not being clear on exactly WHAT features you are wanting.
[08:16] <avishek> is there any way to perform updates on a kubuntu machine not connected to the internet?
[08:16] <Phoenix92x> I'm sorry
[08:16] <Phoenix92x> heh
[08:16] <Phoenix92x> something to mount image files: .iso, .bin/cue, .mdf, etc.
[08:17] <dr_Willis> mounting is not the same as 'changing the iso files contents'
[08:17] <dr_Willis> fuseiso claims it can mount those various file format.
[08:17] <Phoenix92x> oh I know it's read only
[08:17] <dr_Willis> fuseiso -p  testimage.iso testimagemountpoint
[08:18] <dr_Willis> Your users will need to be set up in the proper fuse group to allow them to use the fuse tools.
[08:18] <Phoenix92x> righto
[08:18] <dr_Willis> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/FuseISOMenu?content=73966
[08:18] <Phoenix92x> lovely
[08:18] <dr_Willis> Looks promising. :)
[08:19] <dr_Willis>  Supported image types: ISO, BIN (single track
[08:19] <dr_Willis> only), NRG, MDF, IMG (CCD)
[08:19] <Phoenix92x> nice
[08:20] <avishek> could someone please advise me?
[08:20] <mrksbrd> can someone run me thru the process of installing a .tar file....i already have it extracted, just need help from "make file" on....
[08:20] <avishek> is there any way to perform updates on a kubuntu machine not connected to the internet?
[08:20] <mrksbrd> avishek:not really
[08:20] <dr_Willis> mrksbrd,  you did isntall all the proper Compiler tools?  like the 'build-essential' package?
[08:21] <Viking667> heh. 84% through...
[08:21] <mrksbrd> dunno....i only attempted tar files 1 time & they didn't work
[08:21] <dr_Willis> mrksbrd,  You may want to do some reading at http://www.monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/
[08:21] <mrksbrd> I d/l'd the file extracted it to a folder in home dir
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> dr_Willis: fuseiso doesnt work with dolphin without changing stuff apparently
[08:22] <dr_Willis> compiling from souce can be a bit.... of a channalge at times.
[08:22] <dr_Willis> ActionParsnip,  i always set up Konqueror as the default anyway. :)
[08:22] <mrksbrd> tell me about it
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> dr_Willis: just an fyi
[08:22] <Phoenix92x> thanks dr_Willis, that looks good
[08:22] <dr_Willis> mrksbrd, thats why package managers are a good thing.
[08:22] <dave11> too bad the chumby doesn't have a irc chat widget to use instead of reading before bed
[08:23] <avishek> flaccid: nice to meet you again
[08:23] <avishek> ok, so i can't perform updates offline. but can i install packages on to an offline machine?
[08:23] <dr_Willis> ActionParsnip,  that gui tool i pasted mentioned it was fixed for dolphin - in the notes.. but ive not tried that tool.
[08:23] <dr_Willis> I can handle mounting isos from the command line.
[08:23] <mrksbrd> true
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> dr_Willis: i dont really use em, or cds :D
[08:24] <mrksbrd> i'll read that article....ty
[08:24] <flaccid> avishek, howdy are you the quickcam guy?
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> mrksbrd: you compiling dude
[08:25] <avishek> sorry flaccid; no, but am just a simple linux fan whom you helped greatly
[08:25] <mrksbrd> action trying to install a tar file
[08:25] <kosh_> excuse me, could someone recommend me a good windows manager ?
[08:25] <flaccid> avishek, ah sorry mate, you just have a similar nick to this guy i ran out of time for helping. sweet hope you well then
[08:25] <Viking667> Enlightenment
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> mrksbrd: you'll need some tools and libs
[08:26] <flaccid> has there been a dude trying to get a logitech quickcam going here ?
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> good ol dodgitech
[08:26] <avishek> flaccid: thank you. if you have some time, might i trouble you for some advise?
[08:26] <mrksbrd> which ones?
[08:26] <flaccid> kosh_, the default kwin is great
[08:27] <mrksbrd> this is why i love .deb files....lol
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> mrksbrd: build-essentials gcc g++
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> mrksbrd: what you installing?
[08:27] <mrksbrd> decss
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> mrksbrd: is there no repo for it?
[08:28] <mrksbrd> nope....couldn't find it thru terminal nor add/remove
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> mrksbrd: maybe you need another repo adding
[08:30] <mrksbrd> any idea which one it may be under?
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=14960
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> mrksbrd: you realy need to google more
[08:31] <avishek> flaccid: could you please advise me on how to install packages on a kubuntu machine that isn't connected to the 'net.
[08:31] <mrksbrd> my brain is fried tonight.....sorry running on fumes
[08:31] <kosh_> flaccid: kwin ?. Im ussing the default kde (dolphin) but i had too many problems in the pass and i would like to change it. I Need one with the less possible graffics enviroment.
[08:32] <mrksbrd> ty though action
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> mrksbrd: its cool man
[08:32] <mrksbrd> brb let me see if that article works
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> mrksbrd: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-tutorials-howtos-reference-material/15076-ubuntu-multimedia-howto.html
[08:33] <kosh_> flaccid: I Need one with the less possible graffics enviroment, a fast and simple one. Ty for answering and sorry for my bad english.
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> kosh_: fluxbox
[08:34] <kosh_> ActionParsnip: Thanks you, i'll try it :)
[08:36] <flaccid> kosh_, yeah fluxbox or xfce
[08:36] <flaccid> avishek, oh you don't have to ask me you can ask anyone. dpkg the command to install packages manually, then it just depends where to get from
[08:37] <flaccid> ah well user needed to know difference between a wm and a de
[08:38] <avishek> flaccid: thank you.
[08:38] <flaccid> avishek, where are you deb packages?
[08:39] <avishek> sorry flaccid, you've lost me; could you please explain what you mean?
[08:39] <flaccid> avishek, if its not from the internet, then where from ?
[08:40] <avishek> it's like this. On this machine, it's all from the internet. but on another machine there's no net connection. that's why the question
[08:41] <flaccid> avishek, yes but the question remains where are the packages you want to install ? you want them from the internet machine? you can just copy from /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> avishek: can't you get it connected temporarily?
[08:41] <jussi01> !aptoncd | avishek
[08:42] <avishek> jussi01, flaccid, THANK YOU!
[08:42] <dr_Willis> cant hook up the 2 machines with networking to make it easier eh?
[08:43] <flaccid> anyone know if you can send notes to registered users on freenode for when they next login ?
[08:43] <avishek> no, the machines are in separate cities
[08:43] <dr_Willis> I wonder how many dvd's the full apt-on-cd stuff would take up
[08:43] <dr_Willis> flaccid,  theres a memoserver i thought
[08:43] <dr_Willis>  - memoserv :)
[08:44] <flaccid> thanks
[08:44] <dr_Willis> i wonder what other kinds of serv's there are. theres Nickserv, chanserv, and memoserv.
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> avishek: hit up a starbucks for free www access
[08:45] <dr_Willis> Is starbucks free? i though it was a few $ an hr.
[08:45] <jussi01> dr_Willis: ask in #freenode :)
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> dr_Willis: in uk its free with the overpriced coffee afaik
[08:45] <jussi01> dr_Willis: seenserv ;)
[08:45] <avishek> ActionParsnip: starbucks isn't in india, where i live
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> avishek: yer not missing much
[08:46] <dr_Willis> Ive never taken my laptop to starbucks.. I may do that tomorrow.
[08:46] <dr_Willis> McDonolds has wifi here.. but i think they chage also
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> dr_Willis: mcwifi with fries please
[08:47] <avishek> speaking of these things, is there any linux gaming console?
[08:47] <flaccid> yanks usually make those assumptions heh
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> avishek: i know mamix exists
[08:48] <mrksbrd> action: did what it said, still saying package is not avail
[08:48] <dr_Willis> ActionParsnip,  can you supersize that download please?
[08:48] <mrksbrd> Package libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package
[08:49] <mrksbrd> E: Package libdvdcss2 has no installation candidate
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> mrksbrd: did you add the repo to /etc/apt/sources.lst
[08:49]  * mrksbrd slams his head against a wall
[08:50] <mrksbrd> yup
[08:50] <dr_Willis> You did update after adding the repo?
[08:50] <mrksbrd> yup
[08:50] <mrksbrd> step by step
[08:50] <dr_Willis> You did do the FUnky Chicken Dance to apease the FOSS deities?
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> i thought it was the root dance :)
[08:51] <mrksbrd> i give up....this is only this hard because it's me
[08:51] <mrksbrd> i am a PV
[08:52] <mrksbrd> PV = Professional Victim
[08:54] <avishek> alas, people, i must say farewell, thank you for all your help, especially flaccid and jussi01. god bless you all.
[08:54] <jussi01> :)
[08:54] <flaccid> meh no god for me but thanks anyway!
[08:57] <flaccid> anyone else getting random lag? ..most likely problem is my connetion
[08:58] <dr_Willis> flaccid,  not today, at least...
[08:59] <goof> someone uses mc for ssh?
[08:59] <flaccid> hmm its very weird, im on windows xchat. might try a dif client thanks dr
[09:02] <goof> mc has a problem with the passwd promt via ssh. the command line input it all fuzzy after ... someone know how to fix that
[09:03] <ds187> goof: what do you mean with "fuzzy"
[09:03] <goof> ds187: all over the place
[09:04] <ds187> hmm, can't imagine what you are talking about, sorry
[09:04] <beau> #vim
[09:04] <beau> sry!
[09:04]  * dr_Willis boots beau  to #emacs
[09:04] <dr_Willis> :)
[09:05] <goof> cd /#sh:username@ip in midnight commander f*cks up the command line part in midnight commander ds187
[09:06] <ds187> could you make a screenshot?
[09:07] <dr_Willis> goof,  you are not using screen are you? ive seen some issues with screen and mc.
[09:10] <neo__> hey, anyway i can give my kde3 an oxygen style?
[09:15] <goof> ds187: http://imagebin.org/21700 before/after
[09:16] <ds187> goof: looks strange :-)
[09:17] <ds187> what if you don't use the command line, but the menu-item "F9 --> right --> shell link".....same problem there?
[09:17] <goof> ds187: fuzzy :)
[09:17] <dr_Willis> looks like some CR/LF/Escape sequences goofing up
[09:18] <ds187> i must say i almost never use the command line
[09:18] <goof> ds187: yes
[09:18] <dr_Willis> I use mc a lot.. but never the ssh feature
[09:20] <dr_Willis> and yes.. the initial Are you sure you want to connect (YES/No) login/password/ questions do goof up the mc screen here...
[09:20] <dr_Willis> but it did connect
[09:20] <dr_Willis> i did a ctrl-l to refresh the mc screen
[09:22] <dr_Willis> using  ssh-copy-id  - lets me do the ssh login without any prompts. :) so i dont have any text glitzes then.
[09:30] <flaccid_> yay problem fixed. netgear does not like multiple instances of its agent running in windows via fast user switching lol
[09:31] <dr_Willis> Showing once again. that  multi-users under windows... is a pain. :)
[09:31] <dr_Willis> Ive seen similer issues with other apps.
[09:31] <dr_Willis> File a bug report!
[09:32] <flaccid_> lol. well avg multiple scans as a result just chews up your hard disk, cpu etc.
[09:38] <|rdw|> hi, during some update i ran out of space. now i'm getting "update-alternatives: internal error: /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/ps2pdf corupted: invalid update mode"
[09:38] <|rdw|> when i am trying to remove package ghostscript
[09:38] <dr_Willis> You have free space now?
[09:39] <|rdw|> yes
[09:39] <dr_Willis> You could try the force options to remove.
[09:39] <dr_Willis> or try reinstalling, then removing
[09:39] <dr_Willis> Im not real good at these apt-get fixing stuff. :(
[09:39] <dr_Willis> luckly. heh
[09:39] <|rdw|> at which site can i learn which package contains ps2pdf file?
[09:39] <dr_Willis> Never needed to mess with them much.
[09:39] <dr_Willis> !find ps2pdf
[09:40] <dr_Willis> if you just type 'ps2pdf' at the command line. it may tell you also.
[09:51] <|rdw|> hi, during some update i ran out of space. now i'm getting "update-alternatives: internal error: /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/ps2pdf corupted: invalid update mode" apt-get remove, purge, upgrade, -f,, dist-upgrade don't work. nothing googled works!
[09:52] <flaccid> |rdw|, what did google say about the error(s) ?
[09:52] <|rdw|> it didn't find this specific error
[09:52] <areels> im adding shortcut to desktop but it disappears on reboot how can i fix that?
[09:53] <dr_Willis> areels,  a short cut to what exactly? you mean a link?
[09:53] <areels> dr_Willis: shortcut to a network mount
[09:53] <dr_Willis> and how is it getting mounted?
[09:53] <areels> smb://py001/tools/
[09:54] <flaccid> |rdw|, i did just then: http://www.google.com.au/search?q=++invalid+update+mode+update-alternatives&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[09:54] <dr_Willis> I normally put such a thing in my filemanger bookmarks.
[09:54] <areels> but i need it on desktop
[09:56] <flaccid> areels, kde version ?
[09:57] <areels> flaccid:  im on gnome
[09:57] <flaccid> areels, we don't support gnome here.
[09:59] <areels> oh
[09:59] <areels> let me pass on kde then
[10:00] <flaccid> pass ?
[10:00] <dr_Willis> I thought with gnome - you used that 'connect to remote server' item in the menus and it generated a icon on the desktop
[10:00] <khatahn> hi, i'm trying to configure the network in kubuntu, but the network manager refuses to remember the settings i enter. i also tried to configure /etc/network/interfaces manually, but kubuntu seems to overwrite these settings with the ones it won't let me change
[10:01] <flaccid> khatahn, can you provide better detail? dhclient and other dhcp clients must not be running if you are doing static..
[10:03] <khatahn> flaccid: so i would have to shut down those myself before using the GUI network manager?
[10:05] <flaccid> khatahn, if they were manually started yes. tell us what actual network config you are trying to achieve.. ?
[10:06] <flaccid> khatahn, also feel free to pastebin your current /etc/network/interfaces
[10:06] <Ange|us> man
[10:06] <Ange|us> somebody reminds me how to ssh
[10:06] <Ange|us> cause i forgot lol
[10:06] <flaccid> Ange|us, ssh hostname
[10:07] <Ange|us> hmm
[10:07] <Ange|us> flaccid: im trying to ssh into a shell that i pay for
[10:08] <Ange|us> i used to do something -l username, but i forgot if to put it behind or oposite the hostname
[10:08] <Ange|us> ok i done it
[10:08] <Ange|us> thanks :D
[10:08] <khatahn> flaccid: hmm.. i'm not in front of the kubuntu machine right now, so i guess i'll have to come back later. but thanks for the help.
[10:09] <flaccid> Ange|us, yeah either ssh user@host or ssh -l user host
[10:09] <flaccid> fair enough
[10:13] <Solv> I'm trying to help a uni it admin connect a kubuntu system i set up for my mother in law to connect wireless with wpa key!  He's on msn at the moment...I had it working with an open system at my place...but also couldn't get wpa working....knetworkmanger just sits at 54 percent and then times out
[10:14] <Solv> google doesn't give me much...except that maybe i'll have to install wpasupplicant?  Although i would've figured that had come with kubuntu already
[10:14] <flaccid> Solv, kubuntu version?
[10:14] <Solv> 8.04
[10:15] <flaccid> Solv, check the logs when trying to connect?
[10:15] <Solv> well to be perfectly honest it is ubuntu 8.04 then adept install kubuntu...but same thing
[10:15] <flaccid> which packages did you install for kubuntu ?
[10:15] <Solv> flaccid, which file is the appropriate log file?
[10:15] <flaccid> Solv, /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog at least
[10:16] <Solv> ah...so there is no wifi one specially...okay
[10:16] <flaccid> yeah
[10:17] <Solv> right well i'll take him through some steps...he's having problems just using knetworkmanager at the moment!
[10:17] <Solv> then i'll get him to look at the logs if we go no further...and then i'll chat more here....thanks
[10:17] <flaccid> Solv, in theory it should be as easy as right click, select network then put in credentials but yeah problems are possible of course
[10:18] <flaccid> np
[10:21] <lokifacio> join #algo
[10:24] <Viking667> does anyone know of a panel applet that shows bandwidth? The three I've looked at don't exactly do what I want them to.
[10:24] <flaccid> !info knetstats
[10:25] <Viking667> I think I tried that, is that the one with the two sets of numbers ?
[10:25] <Viking667> one set red, the other set green?
[10:25] <flaccid> ah not really. give it a try? it shows speeds with left click
[10:25] <Viking667> the one that does best what I want doesn't appear in the KDE menus, though I can start it up manually:  knetdockapp
[10:26] <Viking667> that does what you describe
[10:26] <flaccid> then why are you asking?
[10:27] <Viking667> well, two reasons, really. One is: how come this program isn't in the KDE menus, and Two is: how do I get it to run in the panel on startup in the system tray?
[10:28] <flaccid> Viking667, 1. ask the author or package maintainer. 2. use autostart or kde sessions
[10:29] <dr_Willis> if its a kicker applet - it will be in the 'add to panel'  menus thing..
[10:29] <dr_Willis> its possible the kde menus havent refreshed.. if its supposed to be in the menus.
[10:30] <flaccid> yes but best to check the package to see if it actually comes with a .desktop menu item first
[10:30] <Viking667> It's got a .desktop, the category is:  Applications.
[10:30] <Viking667> How useful
[10:30] <dr_Willis> demand a refund.
[10:30] <Viking667> there isn't even a "Applications" parent menu on the "K"
[10:31] <Viking667> huh. You know the program was free to begin with...
[10:31] <Viking667> 8-)
[10:32] <Viking667> I get the impression that it's not in the menus. And, which menus do I refresh? The system, or the user menu?
[10:32] <Viking667> ... My impression with kubuntu was that all that was kinda ... automated?
[10:32] <dr_Willis> theres some command that makes the menus get rescanned.. but i forget what it is.
[10:32] <dr_Willis> some times the menus just dont get refreshed properly when installing.
[10:33] <dr_Willis> i normally logout/back in.. or just use terminal till next time i logout/in
[10:33] <Viking667> ah, okay. I can look at that. Currently undergoing a Feisty->Gutsy upgrade now, so that should upgrade the menus.
[10:33] <Viking667> 's on the wife's machine, and I'm tekmunkey
[10:34] <flaccid> yeah could be just a matter of kmenu refresh like the dr suggest
[10:34] <Viking667> *nod*
[10:37] <eagles0513875> when downloading packages or updating packages what port is used
[10:38] <flaccid> 80
[10:40] <eagles0513875> flaccid: since i have my connection split using a router do i need to port forward port 80
[10:41] <flaccid> eagles0513875, not if your NAT works
[10:41] <eagles0513875> flaccid: ok lol it does
[10:41] <flaccid> cool
[10:41] <eagles0513875> i was just wondering cuz its kinda on the slow side
[10:41] <eagles0513875> then it is probably just my isp being gay as usual
[10:42] <flaccid> if its slow then obviously forwarding is working..
[10:42] <Viking667> heh. And I have a small problem trying to forward port 113 through a DSL-302G... doesn't seem to want to work.
[10:42] <eagles0513875> flaccid: with winblows p2p software i get between 20-40kbps on ares with the port forwarded
[10:43] <flaccid> eagles0513875, that doesn't indicate anything
[10:43] <flaccid> Viking667, likely problem with the dlink product
[10:43] <Viking667> I've got a rule in that kinda looks like this:   Global address: 0.0.0.0, Global Port From: 113, Global Port To: 113, Local Port: 113
[10:43] <Viking667> and local address: 10.64.5.1
[10:43] <Viking667> (which is my machine)
[10:43] <flaccid> contact your sub-standard vendor :)
[10:43] <eagles0513875> lol
[10:43] <Viking667> does that look about normal, though?
[10:44] <Viking667> Can't contact, as the modem was a gift.
[10:44] <eagles0513875> Viking667: its a modem or router
[10:44] <flaccid> looks ok yet
[10:44] <eagles0513875> now your getting the terminology confused there bro
[10:44] <Viking667> strictly, it's a modem, but it has simple NAT/DMZ.
[10:44] <flaccid> it has to be a router as well if its got forwarding as modem is bridged mode only in native
[10:45] <eagles0513875> flaccid: that does look like a modem DSL-302G
[10:45] <Viking667> As I said, it's _described_ as a modem, but it has some stuff in that separates the LAN from the WAN side, though you can run in bridging mode
[10:45] <flaccid> eagles0513875, they have a router as well, ive discarded 2x of those in the past, they are budget as
[10:46] <eagles0513875> gotcha and gotcha
[10:46] <Viking667> heh. I got it given to me, and it's currently handling DSL just fine... just not connections TO my machine on port 113. Funnily enough, connections to port 80 seem to work well.
[10:47] <llutz> Moin
[10:47] <flaccid> Viking667, well have to check isp is not filtering that port and yeah modems are easy to do but router's require firmware and decently designed firmware at that. i've had port forwards fail on the modem/router you specified so it sounds likely..
[10:47] <eagles0513875> Viking667: random thought you on dhcp or static ip from your isp
[10:49] <Viking667> dhcp
[10:49] <Viking667> and the ISP doesn't filter anything.
[10:49] <Solv_> flaccid, i'm trying to tell this guy to right click on knetworkmanager and select 'connect to another wireless network' and then pop in the ssid and wait for it to ask for the wpa password...but he says there is no option like that in the list?
[10:49] <Viking667> i.e. I've got traffic at specified port arriving.
[10:49] <flaccid> then its the router as long as the client doesn't filter
[10:50] <Solv_> is there another way to configure the connection?
[10:50] <flaccid> Solv_, thats not the right way. you right click and select the network/sside from the list
[10:50] <Viking667> *sigh* - how come they got http right, but not ident?
[10:50] <Viking667> err, auth?
[10:50] <flaccid> Viking667, huh?
[10:50] <Viking667> port 113 is the auth service, otherwise known as ident.
[10:50] <flaccid> if your router fails forwarding, contact the manufacturer or get a decent router
[10:50] <Solv_> flaccid, the ssid is usually not listed in my experience...i'm doing it from memory though...as i took my wireless card out =)
[10:50] <flaccid> yeah thats right..
[10:51] <Viking667> mrmmm
[10:51] <flaccid> Solv_, the ssid needs to not be hidden for knetworkmanager otherwise yes you have to do it manual
[10:52] <flaccid> there is no reason to hide the essid as that can be sniffed anyway.
[10:53] <Viking667> 'd love to know why the remote end thinks my ident is broken. *sigh* - there'll be a reason
[10:53] <flaccid> i thought you said the reason is port forward is failing.
[10:53] <Viking667> yeah, I know - faulty firmware.
[10:53] <flaccid> dlink at a decent vendor :(
[10:54] <flaccid> at=aint
[10:54] <Viking667> well, let's see. Traffic comes to the modem on port 113, gets NATted to 10.64.5.1, my machine receives it on port 113, sends back a reply from port 113, and that's the last I know of it.
[10:55] <Viking667> without me manually running a telnet remotehost 113 from a remote host, I can't go any further than that.
[10:55] <flaccid> so port forwarding is working. checking your ident server
[10:55] <dr_Willis> whats relying on identd these days?
[10:55] <Viking667> I've done _that_ before, when I was on dialup, and writing up the identd-HOWTO.
[10:55] <Viking667> dr_Willis: several IRC servers, presumably Undernet and Freenode, as those are the networks I use.
[10:56] <dr_Willis> Hm.. freenode dosent require one. as far as i know
[10:56] <flaccid> nothing relies on ident
[10:56] <flaccid> and the problem is with your ident server so go get the required help for that which is not here :)
[10:57] <dr_Willis> i recall running a fake identd server years ago.. to mess with dalnet.
[10:57] <Viking667> I'm running oidentd here, and that was recommended as a good ident server.
[10:57] <dr_Willis> heh - the one i ran was like 4 lines of perl code.
[10:58] <Viking667> yah, you can get it small with perl... simply reply "UNIX" to the socket call.
[10:58] <flaccid> yeah here is not the help for that..
[10:59] <dr_Willis> hers one in perl about 40 lines. :)
[11:00] <Viking667> hm. What's "No CIDSupplement specified for font ...., defaulting to 0" ...?
[11:00] <flaccid> Viking667, try google
[11:00] <Viking667> (for a font package upgrade?
[11:00] <Viking667> m. I should have taken my own normal advice. Sorry about that
[11:00]  * Viking667 extracts foot out of helmet
[11:02] <Viking667> now I have to see whether my dear dsl has a logging mode or not. I suspect not.
[11:02] <flaccid> from memory that dlink does
[11:03] <flaccid> and its not too bad
[11:05] <Viking667> Good. Then I'll see what it provides.
[11:09] <Solv_> flaccid, okay so we figured out the device wasn't active...so went and enabled it with autoconfiguration and dhcp...but at 28
[11:09] <Solv_> %
[11:09] <Solv_> woops
[11:09] <Solv_> at 28% knetworkmanager freezes....i guess no is the time for the logs
[11:10] <Dekans> Solv_: it's the hardware config state
[11:10] <Dekans> your network card is not well installed
[11:10] <Solv_> Dekans, it's a bcm49sxx or whatever...used ndiswrapper
[11:11] <Solv_> Dekans, it worked okay on an open system..not happy with wep or wpa though it seems
[11:11] <fredthemonkey> hello :)
[11:11] <Dekans> I think ndiswrapper does not handle it
[11:11] <fredthemonkey> does anyone know a good html/php editor?
[11:12] <Dekans> check on google
[11:12] <Dekans> ndiswrapper+wpa
[11:12] <Solv_> Dekans, yeah probably....my mother-in-law is gonna kill me...took vista off and put kubuntu on =
[11:12] <Solv_> =)
[11:12] <Solv_> she'll say.."at least wireless worked with vista"
[11:12] <Dekans> I rememver an additionnal step to handle wpa
[11:12] <Dekans> remember*
[11:13] <Dekans> your can try the b43 driver too
[11:13] <eagles0513875> Solv_: nice wish i could get kubuntu on my vista machine
[11:13] <Dekans> with a bcm4306 it doesn't work on hardy but maybe you'll be lucky
[11:13] <Solv_> Dekans, cept it's in a different state
[11:13] <Solv_> and the person on the other end has never used linux before =)
[11:14] <Dekans> fredthemonkey: look at quanta
[11:14] <Dekans> or qanta
[11:14] <Dekans> don't remember
[11:14] <fredthemonkey> thanks
[11:14] <fredthemonkey> i'll try it
[11:16] <flaccid> Solv_, what you said doesn't make sense to me. pastebin /etc/network/interfaces
[11:17] <flaccid> or cut out the middleman..
[11:17] <Solv_> flaccid, yeah i need remote access
[11:18] <Solv_> /var/log/messages says link is not ready
[11:21] <Solv_> hopefully remote desktop will work okay...nothing like having nx installed on the machine...in hindsight i shoulda done that =)
[11:21] <flaccid> Solv_, right yeah thats a problem with the firmware / driver
[11:21] <flaccid> Solv_, you just get the user to come here on the box unless ethernet not available
[11:21] <Solv_> bugger....so it works okay an an open system but not with encryption?
[11:22] <Solv_> flaccid, they have ethernet
[11:22] <flaccid> Solv_, thats possible but broadcom have dozens of problems
[11:22] <flaccid> then get them to come here to save time
[11:22] <Solv_> flaccid, oh i see...yeah good point, so you reckon you could walk a complete noob through it?
[11:25] <Solv_> flaccid, have you seen this post? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff#Step%203:%20All%20BCM43xx%20-%20Configure%20NDISWrapper%20(and%20WPA%20Supplicant)
[11:25] <flaccid> we do it here everyday
[11:27] <flaccid> Solv_, yes, but is the user actually on feisty?
[11:27] <flaccid> its best to show the lscpi entry and the ubuntu version then select the right howto from the wiki..
[11:27] <Solv_> flaccid, but there are hardy updates
[11:28] <flaccid> so?
[11:28] <dr_Willis> Solv_,  i had to enable ndiswrappers for my bc4310 card. following a guide similer to that.
[11:28] <Solv_> so it should be okay to use
[11:28] <dr_Willis> One i saw was Hardy specific
[11:28] <flaccid> get the above and we will have a better idea of what you need to do
[11:29] <flaccid> um two options, native or ndiswrapper, try both but there are many guides on broadcom and a lot outdated etc.
[11:30] <Solv_> right....i will tell the fella to hop on here and talk to you
[11:30] <dr_Willis> That no-fluff guide has some notes in it for gutsy support.
[11:30] <flaccid> hardy is way more updated for broadcom than the latter
[11:30] <flaccid> is this gutsy, Solv_  im still yet to see the ubuntu version and lscpi entry..
[11:31] <Solv_> cause i need to ask him for it...hold on
[11:31] <flaccid> ok
[11:36] <mercuree> does anyone here use the azenis theme for their kde environment?
[11:36] <mercuree> ive pretty much got everything configured the way i want it but am still having one little problem
[11:37] <flaccid> its better to tell the problem then advise you have one..
[11:37] <flaccid> then=than
[11:37] <dr_Willis> !find azenis
[11:38] <Solv_> abhi
[11:38] <mercuree> basically any lists ie playlis in amarok etc have black stripes over every second listing
[11:38] <dr_Willis> Thats a feature of kde themes/color schemes
[11:38] <flaccid> mercuree, i've seen that before with many themes. perhaps try #amarok or submit a bug
[11:39] <Solv_> flaccid, sara is the person i've been trying to help
[11:39] <flaccid> problem also is that amarok has its own themes
[11:39] <mercuree> it doesnt only happen in amarok though
[11:39] <flaccid> hi sara
[11:39] <mercuree> which isnt themed
[11:39] <mercuree> so im guessing its a system setting of some kind
[11:39] <dr_Willis> You can customize it.  if its using the kde themes. But its a bit hidden in the kde theme settings thing.
[11:39] <mercuree> ill google it
[11:39] <flaccid> mercuree, kde version?
[11:39] <Solv_> sara is my mother-in-law....but the guy is called abhi =)
[11:39] <mercuree> thanks
[11:40] <mercuree> flaccid: 3.5.9
[11:40] <pag> mercuree, kcontrol -> appearance -> colours thre choose 'alternative list colour' (or similiar) from the dropdown menu and change it to something more reasonable
[11:40] <dr_Willis> mercuree,  appearance and themes --> colors.. the LAST entry on the list of things you can change colors on..
[11:40] <flaccid> mercuree, perhaps submit a bug if you believe problem is not the theme
[11:40] <mercuree> thanks guys
[11:40] <dr_Willis> "alternative background in lists"
[11:40] <flaccid> hmm that depends on the design of the theme but yeah try both
[11:41] <dr_Willis> someone had same issue last week. the 'example' window in that color settings  tool. does not show an example of the list so you dont realize what that color changes
[11:42] <flaccid> hmmm sara didn't seem to say anything
[11:44] <mercuree> yep that was the problem exactly. thanks again
[11:44] <Solv_> flaccid, he is new to irc...trying to get him to change his nick to abhi
[11:44] <flaccid> i thought it was a mother in law
[11:44] <dr_Willis> 'wheres the slash key at?' :) heh
[11:44] <flaccid> ah well
[11:44] <Solv_> flaccid, her computer...a dude at the campus helpoing her
[11:44] <flaccid> fair enough
[11:44] <dr_Willis> and other fun questions ive heard when tryign to tutor people on irc ussage.
[11:45] <mercuree> hehe
[11:45] <mercuree> throw irssi at them :P
[11:46] <dr_Willis> fun time explaing why ^c ment Control-C once....
[11:48] <sara> hi
[11:48] <Solv_> yay
[11:48] <flaccid> howdy
[11:48] <Solv_> okay type /nick abhi so we all don't get confused
[11:49] <flaccid> ok while you guys do that im getting another beer
[11:49] <Solv_> flaccid, nice
[11:49] <Solv_> abhi1, nice
[11:49] <abhi1> yeah, what next should i do
[11:50] <Solv_> by the way you can save time when typing someones nickname by pressing tab after typing a couple of letters...like So(tab) will probably autocomplete my nickname for you...saves heaps of time
[11:50] <Solv_> abhi1, okay open konsole
[11:50] <abhi1> ok
[11:51] <abhi1> i have it open
[11:52] <abhi1> should i type any command?
[11:52] <Solv_> and type lspci -n | grep '14e4:43'
[11:52] <Solv_> just copy and paste it
[11:52] <flaccid> brb
[11:53] <Solv_> abhi1, then copy and paste the ouput
[11:53] <abhi1> 01:00.0 0280: 14e4:4311 (rev 02)
[11:54] <Solv_> cool...now just wait for flaccid he's gonna take it from here
[11:54] <abhi1> ok
[11:54] <Solv_> so I believe =)
[11:54] <abhi1> i hope that helps
[11:54] <abhi1> anyways thanks for your help
[11:54] <Solv_> are you up for a bit of hacking?
[11:54] <abhi1> i dont know, never been upto anything like this before
[11:55] <flaccid> can i just have the normal lscpi output please
[11:55] <Solv_> well it's kinda fun when someones helping you...especially when you get something working at the end...
[11:55] <flaccid> for that device
[11:55] <Solv_> flaccid, abhi1 well need exact instructions
[11:55] <abhi1> yes please
[11:56] <flaccid> lscpi | grep -i network will be fine
[11:56] <LiNuxBaBe> does anyone knows a program to connect to wireless with wpa2 protection..? My wicd won't connect
[11:56] <flaccid> LiNuxBaBe, knetworkmanager
[11:57] <abhi1> bash: lscpi: command not found
[11:58] <flaccid> abhi1, sorry spelling mistake. lspci | grep -i network
[11:58] <abhi1> ok
[11:59] <abhi1> 01:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 02)
[11:59] <Solv_> flaccid, btw I followed this howto to get the wireless card working in the firstplace: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=769990
[11:59] <Solv_> it might help you know what you have to 'undo' if anything
[11:59] <flaccid> abhi1, and you are on ubuntu hardy ?
[11:59] <Solv_> flaccid, yes he is
[11:59] <Solv_> i installed it
[11:59] <flaccid> np gimme 2mins
[12:00] <flaccid> are you guys doing native or ndiswrapper atm?
[12:00] <Solv_> ndiswrapper
[12:00] <flaccid> ok 1sec
[12:01] <Solv_> flaccid, yeah it was built from source
[12:01] <flaccid> and can i have a pastebin of /etc/network/interfaces please?
[12:02] <flaccid> also this is probably the guide that should of been followed: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Hardy
[12:02] <Solv_> abhi1, you will need to paste the ouput in the channel #pastebin
[12:02] <flaccid> i'll leave the 'undo' to you guys
[12:02] <flaccid> !pastebin
[12:02] <Solv_> otherwise you might get kicked of the channel
[12:02] <flaccid> use the website instead
[12:02] <Solv_> yeah
[12:03] <abhi1> Solv_: so what exactly should i do now
[12:03] <Solv_> abhi1, goto pastebin.com
[12:03] <abhi1> okay
[12:03] <Solv_> and paste the info in there...and then just post the link here
[12:06] <abhi1> Solv_: so i should paste this there: 01:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 02)
[12:06] <flaccid> abhi1, nah just what kate /etc/network/interfaces gives
[12:07] <abhi1> ok
[12:07] <Solv_> so paste it in pastebin....type your name in the box and press send
[12:07] <Solv_> then it changes the address in the webpage and you can paste the link to the new url
[12:09] <abhi1> http://pastebin.com/m64d77f45
[12:10] <abhi1> did that help
[12:10] <flaccid> ok all good there. now problem is there are lots of bugs with this model and lots of problems so its a matter of trying to work it out
[12:11] <abhi1> ok
[12:12] <flaccid> give me a few more mins. its going to be hard considering you guys have already tried a lot of stuff and we don't know what has been changed
[12:12] <abhi1> ok
[12:12] <keepout> heelo
[12:13] <Solv_> flaccid, i haven't done anything else other than that howto i posted
[12:13] <Solv_> flaccid, currently he has gone into system settings and disabled wlan0 as well
[12:14] <zorglu_> q. i would like to get mp3 reading in amarok. how can i do ?
[12:14] <Tm_T> !mp3 | zorglu_
[12:14] <flaccid> hmmm this is all too messy
[12:14] <dognews> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23492/
[12:15] <zorglu_> Tm_T: do you have any thing shorter than reading all this ?
[12:15] <Tm_T> zorglu_: install kubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[12:16] <flaccid> abhi1, please try to install b43-fwcutter package , have you guys tried that yet?
[12:16] <dognews> what's the problem? (see link above)
[12:16] <Tm_T> root: are we rooted now?
[12:16] <zorglu_> Tm_T: that's shorter :) trying
[12:18] <zorglu_> openjdk-6-jre-headless <- what is this openjdk ? the new name of sun java or of gnu java ?
[12:18] <Tm_T> zorglu_: opened sun java
[12:18] <zorglu_> Tm_T: ok thanks
[12:20] <zorglu_> Tm_T: thanks bis. install kubuntu-restricted-extras worked :)
[12:20] <abhi1> ok
[12:20] <Tm_T> zorglu_: now you have many other restricted issues solved too I hope
[12:21] <flaccid> Solv_, that chipset is supported with the firmware as per http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43/devices apparently
[12:21] <Jahromeo> hey guys
[12:21] <Jahromeo> how do i format a volume in kubuntu
[12:21] <flaccid> Jahromeo, what kind of volume?
[12:21] <Jahromeo> ext3
[12:21] <dognews> Jahromeo: qtparted
[12:21] <Jahromeo> my old ubuntu partition
[12:21] <Jahromeo> i want to remove it
[12:21] <flaccid> Jahromeo, thats a filesystem, not a volume.
[12:22] <Jahromeo> well im on the livedisc atm
[12:22] <Jahromeo> how do i format that old ubuntu volume
[12:22] <flaccid> qtparted is fine for partition/fs removal
[12:22] <flaccid> Jahromeo, you want to re-use the filesystem?
[12:22] <Jahromeo> well i want to format that partition
[12:22] <Jahromeo> and make it blank
[12:22] <Jahromeo> i want to put it back as part of the ntfs one
[12:22] <flaccid> use qtparted or just delete the contents
[12:22] <Jahromeo> and make it back to ntfs
[12:23] <flaccid> Jahromeo, um thats not formatting at all. you would have to remove it and then create an ntfs fs. you cannot convert
[12:23] <Jahromeo> well how do i get rid of ubuntu
[12:23] <Jahromeo> its messing up my grub
[12:23] <Jahromeo> i need it gone
[12:23] <Jahromeo> why cant i just format it
[12:23] <flaccid> Jahromeo, messing up how ? you can use qtparted as advised to remove whatever
[12:23] <Jahromeo> i want to format sda5
[12:23] <Jahromeo> and make it blank
[12:23] <Jahromeo> i dont have qtparted on this livecd
[12:24] <flaccid> you can format it but not as ntfs because its ext3
[12:24] <flaccid> Jahromeo, you can install it
[12:24] <Jahromeo> surely there must be a default ap
[12:24] <flaccid> no there is no default app
[12:24] <flaccid> !info qtparted
[12:24] <Jahromeo> : Couldn't find package qtparted
[12:24] <flaccid> you have to enabled universe and then install it
[12:24] <abhi1> Solv_: where do i find the b43-fwcutter package
[12:24] <flaccid> !info b43-fwcutter
[12:24] <Jahromeo> man i cant believe you are telling me linux doesnt have a default delete or format command
[12:25] <flaccid> Jahromeo, sure it does, its called fdisk good luck
[12:25] <flaccid> for file deletion there is rm
[12:25] <Jahromeo> so how do i kill sda5 in fdisk
[12:25] <Jahromeo> i want to clear its contents
[12:26] <PhilRod> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87399 looks fixed in trunk to me (and actually in 3.5.9 too). Can anyone confirm?
[12:26] <flaccid> Jahromeo, try a google on fdisk
[12:26] <PhilRod> d'oh, EWRONGWINDOW, sorry
[12:26] <Jahromeo> cant you just give me the string
[12:26] <flaccid> Jahromeo, or even better man fdisk
[12:26] <flaccid> Jahromeo, nope
[12:27] <Jahromeo> man seriously format c: in windows
[12:28] <Jahromeo> in linux i have to go spend 20 mins looking for an app to do the same thing
[12:28] <Jahromeo> dont kid me
[12:28] <flaccid> Jahromeo, lol you havnt even tried
[12:29] <Jahromeo> this is seriously a joke, you are telling me i cant delete files without a 3rd party app
[12:29] <flaccid> you also have to understand what a partition is, what a filesystem is and also what formatting actually does...
[12:29] <flaccid> Jahromeo, i never said that at all
[12:29] <flaccid> qtparted is also not a 3rd party app
[12:29] <Jahromeo> sounds like it
[12:29] <flaccid> what would you know ?
[12:30] <flaccid> !repos | Jahromeo
[12:30] <lordnps> Hi everyone
[12:30] <flaccid> if you did an fdisk tutorial already you would have done what you need instead of wasting time
[12:32] <flaccid> Jahromeo, i found a simple fdisk tutorial to delete a partition on google it was very easy to find: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-how-to-delete-a-partition-with-fdisk-command/
[12:32] <lordnps> I've recently removed my swap partition, but partioned another one (smaller) for swap... however I don't know how to configure which partition to use... is there a conf file or something I can just say "swap:sdxx"?
[12:32] <flaccid> you need to understand that linux and windows filesystems work on different partition types so you cannot mix them thus why you have to delete then create a new partition and filesystem
[12:32] <abhi1> flaccid: do you know what i should do next?
[12:33] <flaccid> abhi1, you installed that package?
[12:33] <abhi1> i couldnt get that package
[12:34] <flaccid> abhi1, why?
[12:34] <Jahromeo> !grub
[12:34] <flaccid> !info b43-fwcutter
[12:34] <lordnps> Where does the system stores the device used for swap?
[12:34] <Jahromeo> flaccid:  thanks
[12:35] <flaccid> Jahromeo, np. if you have a grub error thats usually going to be a different story..
[12:36] <lordnps> fine... I'll ask it yet simpler... "How do you change your swap partition"
[12:36] <flaccid> sweet
[12:36] <lordnps> no one?
[12:36] <flaccid> lordnps, this should help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[12:37] <flaccid> lordnps, if people can help they will respond, nntr
[12:37] <lordnps> thanks
[12:37] <flaccid> np
[12:45] <tasseschokolade> hello, is this an english talking channel?
[12:46] <ubuntu> jo
[12:46] <SSJ_GZ> tasseschokolade: Yes :)
[12:46] <ubuntu> aber ich bin deutsch^^
[12:46] <ubuntu> und weg
[12:46] <tasseschokolade> its okay, if am speaking german?
[12:48] <flaccid> !de
[12:48] <tasseschokolade> ubottu: thx
[12:49] <tasseschokolade> oh *h*
[12:50] <stefan> is the fact that printing doesn't work in the 4.1 beta2 a known problem that's gonna be fixed?
[12:51] <stefan> I know they are beta pkgs, but the last time I tried a stable kubuntu desktop it didn't work either, so I'm wondering
[12:52] <flaccid> !kde4 | stefan
[12:52] <stefan> flaccid: I know they are beta pkgs, but the last time I tried a stable kubuntu desktop it didn't work either, so I'm wondering
[12:52] <flaccid> !doesntwork | stefan
[12:53] <flaccid> this is not the channel for kde4 support on ubuntu.
[12:53] <MaskedOne> anyone ever have the problem on a 64bit Kubuntu where when you hit a key (p,/,-, in my case) a bunch of random characters are inserted instead?
[12:54] <MaskedOne> Used to have this problem with XP too but recently XP is fine and Kubuntu 64bit seems to have issues
[12:54] <akim> no
[12:55] <MaskedOne> funny thing is after awhile of having Kubuntu on the keyboard works fine, just funky for the first like 10 minutes or so
[12:55] <stefan> flaccid, there was a general problem with kubuntu printing and app-armor not too long ago, so it's not like I'm talking about rare and unusual problems
[12:56] <stefan> and before app-armor it was a rights issue and before that something else.
[12:56] <stefan> Kubuntu has a long and proud history of not-working printers
[12:57] <flaccid> stefan, so ?
[12:57] <stefan> and not working as in I click print and it doesn't do anything for some reason or other that's not all that easy to find out because Linux's getting more like Windows every year and the error messages keep getting shorter and less helpful
[12:57] <stefan> so:
[12:57] <stefan> is the fact that printing doesn't work in the 4.1 beta2 a known problem that's gonna be fixed?
[12:57] <flaccid> i don't see anythin concrete yet just assumptions
[12:57] <tasseschokolade> i destroyed my /boot. how can i copy the kernel from live cd into the (new) boot?
[12:57] <flaccid> stefan, like i said THIS is the wrong channel
[12:58] <stefan> i don't want exhaustive support, I just assumed that some guy on this channel of 300 would know *whether* *it's* *a* *known* *problem*
[12:58] <flaccid> stefan, bad assumption.
[12:58] <flaccid> why assume at all :)
[12:59] <stefan> by god you're an asshat.
[12:59] <MaskedOne> stefan, all the printers i have tried with Kubuntu work perfectly
[12:59] <flaccid> lol
[12:59] <MaskedOne> wow there's someone who is used to paid support lol
[12:59] <flaccid> lets just generalise and say there is nothing wrong with linux or vendor support :O
[13:00] <MaskedOne> yeah love how people blame linux if something doesnt work
[13:00] <flaccid> 'my car doesn't work' and i was wondering if it was a known problem ?
[13:00] <MaskedOne> most likely it is their hardware vendor whose being a dunce and not giving us drivers
[13:00] <MaskedOne> if he rlly wants to know go post on a forum and have patience enough to wait a day lol
[13:01] <flaccid> that won't help because the question will be the same. 'my printing doesnt work'
[13:02] <MaskedOne> lol
[13:16] <mado> hi guys ...
[13:17] <mado> can you help me please? ... my firefox doesn't show me the place where the name and "X"-button should be
[13:18] <mado> all other programs seem to do that
[13:18] <mado> but not firefox
[13:19] <flaccid> !enter | mado
[13:20] <flaccid> mado, firefox is not kde app so #ubuntu might be able to help or #firefox
[13:25] <Amrius> Hi! I tried to install a package (linux-backports-modules-2.6.22-14-generic_2.6.22-14.53_i386) which didn't work because of a wrong kernel. Now the package shows up in Aptitude and Adept as broken package and can't be removed any more... How can I get rid of it?
[13:27] <Skrux> wenas
[13:27] <flaccid> Amrius, sudo dpkg --purge linux-backports-modules-2.6.22-14-generic_2.6.22-14.53_i386
[13:27] <Skrux> conoce alguien el lingot ??
[13:27] <flaccid> Amrius, if that is the real pkg name installed
[13:27] <flaccid> Skrux, english only channel
[13:28] <Skrux> flaccid: oh, sorry, confused the channel
[13:28] <Skrux> bye
[13:28] <eagles0513875> this is a weird problem
[13:28] <eagles0513875> amarok isnt loading for me
[13:29] <eagles0513875> starts the loading process but there is no gui
[13:29] <eagles0513875> that ends up opening
[13:29] <jussi01> eagles0513875: tried running it from the terminal to see what the error is?
[13:29] <eagles0513875> jussi01: will do now
[13:30] <eagles0513875> jussi01:
[13:30] <eagles0513875> No protocol specified
[13:30] <eagles0513875> : cannot connect to X server :0.0
[13:30] <eagles0513875> i think if i reboot my machine it will fix itself
[13:31] <eagles0513875> jussi01: virtual box seems to be doing the same thing as well ill run in command line and see if its same message
[13:33] <flaccid> the pts is having problems getting connection to the X server. many possible reasons, google should help by googling the error as always...
[13:33] <abhi1> flaccid: its done its installng now, sorry the internet connection is slow this time of the day
[13:34] <abhi1> flaccid: what should I do next?
[13:38] <sonoftheclayr> I have a problem. I used tasksel to install the LAMP package the other day and when php didn't work i decided to install it all myself so I went into tasksel to remove it and it decided to remove the entire computer...I stopped it before it got too far though
[13:39] <sonoftheclayr> So now I am reinstalling the kubuntu-desktop package and hoping that will fix it...failing that I will just do a clean install
[13:40] <flaccid> i have to go no sorry
[13:40] <flaccid> i have a life
[13:48] <eagles0513875> jussi01: found out what was causing my problem
[13:49] <Gohanx3> Laura Palmer
[13:49] <eagles0513875> ?
[13:49] <eagles0513875> Gohanx3: talking about 24 im guessing
[13:50] <Gohanx3> Twin Peaks :)
[13:50] <eagles0513875> !ot | Gohanx3
[13:50] <Gohanx3> wow theres a general chat
[13:50] <Gohanx3> thanks
[13:50] <eagles0513875> Gohanx3: no problem bro
[13:50] <eagles0513875> thats what everyone is here for to help each other out
[13:51] <Gohanx3> yeah
[13:51] <Gohanx3> and no charge either
[13:51] <eagles0513875> lol
[13:51] <eagles0513875> i hear that bro
[13:51] <Gohanx3> thats impressive and warms my soul :D
[13:51] <eagles0513875> what is
[13:51] <eagles0513875> free support or the offtopic channel
[13:51] <Gohanx3> lol free support
[13:52] <Gohanx3> I will give something back for all the help ive got, by doing the same, its a great circle
[13:52] <eagles0513875> yep i agree
[13:54] <Gohanx3> :)
[13:57] <eagles0513875> my box is on the fritz lol cursed vm
[13:57] <zipper> !ntfs
[13:59] <eagles0513875> zipper: was that for your info or directed to me
[13:59] <Gohanx3> im VERY impressed by their ntfs support
[13:59] <Gohanx3> a year ago I had server issues with r & w with ntfs in linux, now its 100%
[13:59] <eagles0513875> same here :) found out bout ntfs3g when i first started with kubuntu
[13:59] <Gohanx3> ^_^
[14:00] <eagles0513875> Gohanx3: im guessing its a windows file server
[14:00] <eagles0513875> Gohanx3: is ur nick registered by any chance
[14:00] <Gohanx3> eagles0513875: no sir not yet
[14:00] <eagles0513875> !register | Gohanx3
[14:00] <Gohanx3> thanks bro
[14:01] <eagles0513875> Gohanx3: that way you and i can chat in private about that server issue you were having now you got me curious about it
[14:01] <zipper> eagles0513875, that was for myself i'm afraid
[14:01] <Gohanx3> eagles0513875:  my server issue?
[14:01] <Gohanx3> I currently dont have any issues with linux.. yet lol, but thanks anyways
[14:02] <eagles0513875> zipper: ok lol just wasnt sure
[14:02] <zipper> =)
[14:02] <eagles0513875> Gohanx3: were you trying to aaccess an ntfs partition on a windows file server
[14:02] <eagles0513875> zipper: if you need help with it let me know
[14:03] <zipper> will do, thanks
[14:03] <Gohanx3> eagles0513875: no sir
[14:03] <eagles0513875> ok
[14:03] <eagles0513875> Gohanx3: want an easy solution that way you wont have to use ntfs3g
[14:03] <eagles0513875> Gohanx3: you could just setup a simple samba server
[14:03] <Gohanx3> sure
[14:03] <Gohanx3> got some more info?
[14:03] <eagles0513875> with the samba server just save everything to the linux box
[14:03] <eagles0513875> !samba | Gohanx3
[14:03] <Gohanx3> thanks again :)
[14:04] <eagles0513875> Gohanx3: that allows for file sharing from a linux to windows box
[14:04] <eagles0513875> Gohanx3: from linux to linux there is nfs
[14:04] <eagles0513875> Gohanx3: no problem
[14:05] <eagles0513875> Gohanx3: im actually working on my lpi certification so feel free to ask me questions
[14:05] <Gohanx3> wow nice
[14:05] <Gohanx3> good luck eagles0513875 and thanks for the kind offer
[14:06] <Gohanx3> im gonna change nick
[14:06] <eagles0513875> Gohanx3: no problem thats what im here for
[14:06] <eagles0513875> greenfishx3: you in kubuntu offtopic
[14:06] <greenfishx3> yes sir
[14:12] <The_ManU_212> hi
[14:12] <The_ManU_212> for printing im using cups and my hp all-inone 7210 with the driver for hp 7200, but how to set the quality of my print and bleeding-edge? under windows - no problem...
[14:15] <eagles0513875> where can i find the inittab
[14:15] <eagles0513875> !inittab
[14:15] <eagles0513875> !info inittab
[14:15] <eagles0513875> O_o
[14:16] <waylandbill> eagles0513875: doing a 'locate inittab' doesn't produce any results. Perhaps there isn't one?
[14:16] <eagles0513875> waylandbill: there has to be other wise you wont be able to boot into linux
[14:16] <eagles0513875> waylandbill: that file controls how stuff boots and the run levels
[14:17] <eagles0513875> and the virtual command lines tty1 2 and so on
[14:17] <waylandbill> eagles0513875: in a sysv-compatible boot it does. I thought ubuntu went away from that after edgy.
[14:19] <waylandbill> eagles0513875: I think it is controlled by Upstart rather than SysV init.
[14:19] <eagles0513875> found it in upstart
[14:19] <eagles0513875> but its a file that ends in .pl
[14:21] <waylandbill> eagles0513875: if you are looking to add a job, the upstart home page has examples.
[14:21] <eagles0513875> waylandbill: i want to mod how ctrl+alt+del is handeled i want it to echo a message
[14:22] <eagles0513875> what language is the new inittab in upstart programmed in
[14:22] <waylandbill> if it is a pl file, that is perl.
[14:23] <waylandbill> you could exec another script in another language if you don't know perl though. You could have it call a python or shell script.
[14:23] <eagles0513875> ok
[14:23] <The_ManU_212> for printing im using cups and my hp all-inone 7210 with the driver for hp 7200, but how to set the quality of my print and bleeding-edge? under windows - no problem...
[14:23] <eagles0513875> whats the purpose of migrating away from an inittab waylandbill
[14:25] <waylandbill> it is an asyncronous replacement that is event driven.
[14:27] <eagles0513875> waylandbill: i found where the ctrl stuff is in the new init tab so its not a simple echo the message
[14:29] <waylandbill> as for why it was a policy for Canonical to migrate from an inittab I can't say. Perhaps that style init is reaching the end of its proposed lifecycle. I don't really know.
[14:44] <ext3_fs> hi
[14:45] <jussi01> hi
[14:45] <ext3_fs> am having an issue, am runing parallels desktop 3.0 on my mac os x leopard
[14:46] <ext3_fs> everything is running sweetly
[14:46] <ext3_fs> i just cant copy files from Kubuntu and my mac os X
[14:46] <ext3_fs> not sure if am missing any settings or configs ?
[14:47] <ext3_fs> anyone one on this list running a similar setup ?
[14:47] <Psykar> ext3_fs, this is because parallels does not actually support anything like that for any OS besides windows.
[14:48] <ext3_fs> OK, so the copy paste function is for windows only
[14:48] <ext3_fs> any updates for the mac users coming anytime soon ?
[14:48] <ext3_fs> or does VMware fusion support this ?
[14:49] <Psykar> Unsure (don't own a mac, only use one at work), As it is parallels who designed the windows functionality, I doubt they will put much effort into similar stuff with linux, simply because of the low user base.
[14:50] <ext3_fs> hmm, seems like am stuck with current virtualizaing :-)
[15:05] <jaakkome> I want to enable the pressure sensitivity on my Wacom drawing-tablet thing... any tips on where to start looking?
[15:07] <PhilRod> jaakkome: google? :-)
[15:07] <ds187> jaakkome: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-626024.html perhaps?
[15:07] <ds187> .oO( first link in google )
[15:08] <BluesKaj> bbl
[15:09] <jaakkome> ah, there's a linux wacom project, goody
[15:27] <kiba> gah
[15:28] <kiba> I cannot forward and backward in firefox3.0b5
[15:30] <Daisuke-Laptop> no buttons?
[15:30] <kiba> can click on it
[15:30] <Daisuke-Laptop> or you just opened a page and there's nowhere to go forward or back to
[15:30] <kiba> nope
[15:31] <Daisuke-Laptop> also, are you sure it isn't the page.  right click and go a little further back
[15:31] <kiba> can't click on it*
[15:31] <hdxx> try firefox3 release note
[15:31] <kiba> not sure if this is firefox3.0
[15:31] <kiba> it seem that the ubuntu team is refusing to package firefox3.0
[15:31] <kiba> I got firefox 3.0b5
[15:31] <Silver> Hello. I am very new to linux, trying to get away from Windows. I am running a fresh install of Kubuntu 8.04, but I am having a little problem. I cannot get tv-out (on S-video) to work! I have a GF 7600 GT, and have installed the restricted drivers. What should I do? Thanks in advance!
[15:32] <hdxx> i installed firefox from repositories and i got firefox3 reelase not and works fine
[15:34] <hdxx> Silver, maybe you should check this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-627014.html
[15:35] <Silver> Thank you, hdxx, that seems to fit my problem :)
[15:36] <keepout> hello
[15:47] <mercuree> kiba i think that iceweasel is the new browser for debian. not sure how thi affects ubuntu
[15:47] <mercuree> this*
[15:49] <stdin> mercuree: iceweasel is firefox, just unbranded
[15:50] <mercuree> i know that. but are they no choosing to do it that way because of mozillas pushing the gnu rules?
[15:51] <mercuree> so therefore would they not start using that as the default browser?
[15:51] <stdin> no, because the branding is not covered by the free license
[15:52] <stdin> Canonical have a license from mozilla to distribute the firefox logos and branding even if they patch the source
[15:53] <stdin> licenses are horrible things, try not to think about them too much or you'll get a headache ;)
[15:56] <mercuree> are there many advantages for kde4 vs kde3? I was told to install kde4 which I am sure i tried installing (in ubuntu hardy) and now I have 3.9.5
[15:58] <stdin> kde4 is newer, that's both an advantage and a disadvantage
[16:04] <mercuree> hehe
[16:05] <mercuree> i figured that much
[16:05] <mercuree> ill check it out later
[16:10] <oilinki> hi, would 7GB be enought for kubuntu root partition and all system stuff?
[16:11] <southern1> yes
[16:11] <oilinki> ok. then I'll create that
[16:11] <oilinki> thanks
[16:11] <southern1> mmhmm'
[16:12] <southern1> my root drive / ios 5 gigs
[16:13] <southern1> but i have mre then 1 partition
[16:13] <southern1> i have 9
[16:13] <oilinki> ah.
[16:13] <oilinki> I used to put everything on just one partition, but my raid failed and now wish to put the root partition on it's own
[16:14] <mercuree> ive got kde and gnome on a 6gig and currently have 1gig free
[16:14] <epimeth> how did you manaage 9?  7 is the max....
[16:14] <oilinki> well ok. I'll put 10g for the system
[16:22] <mercuree> is compiz a gnome only program? busy looking up how to get the same effects on kde
[16:22] <andrei> it is not
[16:23] <andrei> try installing the video driver first
[16:23] <mercuree> im using propreitary nvidia drivers
[16:23] <mercuree> worked fine on gnome
[16:25] <mercuree> ok i think i got it. sortof.
[16:26] <mercuree> did compiz --replace and now compiz has overridden kde settings. not quite properly but its not too bad
[16:27] <prisoner> Hello..trying to mount an external usb hard disk to kubuntu 8.04. Disk is supposed to be NTFS. Kubuntu sees the disk initially but except from showing me just the top folders in it, I can't do anything, create folders or copy data (trying to save my data from corrupted XP installation). Any ideas?
[16:28] <_CrashMaster_> prisoner:  Sounds like the drive has been mounted in read-only
[16:28] <prisoner> Crahmaster: well from its properties says rwx for the owner!
[16:28] <_CrashMaster_> hm
[16:29] <prisoner> Crashmaster: weird thins is that after trying to do something with it, it even "vanishes" at all..Kubuntu says it doesnt exist then!
[16:30] <prisoner> Crashmaster: I have to unplug the usb just to go over the same story once more..it seems useless but there must be some way it can be fixed
[16:30] <_CrashMaster_> Im not so sure. That starts to sound like a fried flash drive.. Are you able to use it successfully in another system?
[16:31] <prisoner> Crashmaster: booting my XP laptop already
[16:33] <pater> sory, where can take gimp for kubuntu 7.10 ?
[16:34] <EagleScreen> gimp should be in kubuntu 7.10 repository
[16:48] <ads_> is there i can crop my screen size... my second display is displaying slightly too large
[16:48] <ads_> is there a way*
[16:52] <aldo> hello
[16:53] <aldo> help
[16:54] <aaroncampbell__> Is it possible to listen to a Real Audio music snippet online with Kubuntu/FireFox 3?
[16:54] <aldo> your're kubuntu brasilian
[16:54] <aldo> ???
[16:54] <silvelix> greetings
[16:55] <aldo> hello , plase
[16:55] <silvelix> Iḿ new to kubuntu
[16:55] <silvelix> Iḿ installing wine
[16:56] <silvelix> but it was disabled in the adept installer
[16:57] <andrei> type winecfg
[16:58] <silvelix> tryed it on the terminal
[16:58] <silvelix> and adept search
[16:58] <aldo> andrei you speak portugues
[16:58] <aldo> ?
[16:58] <silvelix> no luck
[16:58] <andrei> nope
[16:59] <silvelix> hi andrei
[16:59] <silvelix> no luck in the wincfg
[16:59] <andrei> sorry
[16:59] <andrei> winecfg
[17:00] <silvelix> in the terminal?
[17:00] <andrei> yes
[17:00] <aldo> andrei vc sabe o #kubuntu-br
[17:01] <silvelix> The program 'winecfg' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install wine You will have to enable the component called 'universe'
[17:02] <silvelix> how can i enable the universe?
[17:02] <eagles0513875> isnt the universe already enabled :p
[17:03] <silvelix> lol
[17:03] <andrei> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:03] <andrei> just install wine
[17:03] <andrei> or follow instructions from here:
[17:03] <andrei> http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[17:04] <silvelix> ok
[17:04] <andrei> after installing wine
[17:04] <andrei> run
[17:04] <andrei> "winecfg#
[17:04] <erwin> hello
[17:04] <andrei> "winecfg"
[17:04] <andrei> in the terminal
[17:04] <silvelix> ok
[17:04] <epimeth> silvelix: you can also add winehq's repository and it will take precedence over the default repositories
[17:05] <andrei> correct
[17:05] <andrei> http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[17:06] <aldo> menseger
[17:06] <aldo> for my kubuntu
[17:06] <aldo> good
[17:06] <epimeth> aldo: kopete
[17:07] <silvelix> silver@silverkubuntu:~$ sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/hardy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list --08:05:28--  http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/hardy.list            => `/etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list' Resolving wine.budgetdedicated.com... 81.171.111.184 Connecting to wine.budgetdedicated.com|81.171.111.184|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response
[17:07] <aldo> good
[17:07] <silvelix> this one appears in the terminal window
[17:07] <aldo> the emesene
[17:07] <aldo> is the goos
[17:07] <epimeth> aldo: or gaim... but I'm against programs begining with a g... except for the gimp, but that *really* starts with a 't' :-)
[17:07] <aldo> good
[17:07] <aldo> uhsauh
[17:09] <silvelix> ok what will i do next?
[17:09] <nate_> HELLO ALL, IS THERE A PLUGIN FOR AMORAK THAT IS SIMILAR TO MEDIA PLAYER FOR FINDING TRACK INFO ON THE WEB
[17:09] <hydrogen> ow]
[17:09] <hydrogen> my eyes
[17:10] <jussi01> !caps | nate_
[17:10] <epimeth> silvelix: that command downloaded the repository list from wine into a file on your computer "/etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list"
[17:10] <hydrogen> ubottu: THAT GOES FOR YOU TOO!!!
[17:10] <nate_> sorry
[17:10] <epimeth> silvelix: now you have to update your repositories (sudo apt-get update) and upgrade your installed programs (sudo apt-get upgrade)
[17:11] <silvelix> ok will try it
[17:11] <epimeth> silvelix: if you do not see that wine is being updated, you install it (sudo apt-get install wine)
[17:11] <Odd-rationale> nate_: for music tagging, consider kid3 or easytag (gtk, but better...)
[17:11] <aldo> what's for pragram
[17:11] <aldo> ?
[17:11] <Odd-rationale> both can search online for track info
[17:11] <silvelix> epimeth: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[17:12] <aldo> up grade
[17:12] <nate_> odd-rationale do you have a preference
[17:12] <Odd-rationale> nate_: easytag
[17:12] <nate_> odd-rationale cool ill give it a try
[17:12]  * Odd-rationale uses gnome anyways... ;)
[17:13] <pmfranco> Perdon, alguien me puede ayudar donde se configura la trajeta de red en kubuntu con kde 4.0
[17:13] <_CrashMaster_> !es | pmfranco
[17:13] <epimeth> silvelix: you're just trying to make my life difficult :-)
[17:13] <andrei> espanol, espanol
[17:13] <aldo> alguem pode me ajuda com o kubuntu
[17:14] <epimeth> silvelix: what command did you run before getting that error?
[17:14] <silvelix> epimeth. sorry, iḿ new to kubuntu. Iḿ a windows user
[17:14] <jussi01> silvelix: have you got adept open atm?
[17:14] <epimeth> silvelix: its okay.  we'll help.  what was the last command?
[17:14] <silvelix> yea adept is open right now
[17:15] <andrei> close it
[17:15] <jussi01> silvelix: thats the problem - close it
[17:15] <epimeth> silvelix: excellent.  then close adept.  it locks the files that apt uses.
[17:15] <silvelix> sudo apt-get update
[17:15] <aldo> my kopote error
[17:16] <pmfranco> por favor, alguien sabe como configurar la trajeta de red en kubuntu con kde 4.0
[17:16] <silvelix> list done
[17:16] <epimeth> !es . pmfranco
[17:16] <epimeth> !es | pmfranco
[17:17] <silvelix> should i open adept now and look for wine?
[17:17] <pmfranco> gracias por la ayuda, me voy a cambair a ese canal
[17:18] <pmfranco> perdon si cause molestias
[17:18] <epimeth> pmfranco: es bien amigo :-)
[17:18] <_CrashMaster_> Buena suerte, pmfranco
[17:19] <silvelix> epimeth
[17:20] <epimeth> silvelix: si, senor?
[17:20] <epimeth> :-)
[17:20] <epimeth> silvelix: oh, sorry... didn't see that :-)  if you want to, yes
[17:20] <aldo> tienes algum portugeus
[17:20] <silvelix> wine is still disable
[17:20] <epimeth> silvelix: I personally prefer to get the most accurate information about my installs, so I use apt-get
[17:21] <epimeth> !pr | aldo
[17:21] <epimeth> arg...
[17:21] <aldo> yes
[17:21] <_CrashMaster_> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[17:21] <_CrashMaster_> I may not know linux, but Im learning my way around that bot!
[17:21] <aldo> tanks
[17:21] <aldo> thanks
[17:22] <silvelix> epimeth: silver@silverkubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get update Hit http://wine.budgetdedicated.com hardy Release.gpg Ign http://wine.budgetdedicated.com hardy/main Translation-en_PH Hit http://wine.budgetdedicated.com hardy Release Ign http://wine.budgetdedicated.com hardy/main Packages Hit http://wine.budgetdedicated.com hardy/main Packages Reading package lists... Done
[17:22] <epimeth> silvelix: so now, sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:22] <epimeth> silvelix: you say you already installed it, yes?  upgrade will upgrade to the most recent version.
[17:23] <silvelix> no wine yet
[17:23] <silvelix> it is disabled in the adept manager thatś why I cant install it
[17:23] <epimeth> oooohhhh
[17:23] <epimeth> disabled? really?  how did you manage to do that?
[17:24] <silvelix> itś grayed
[17:24] <silvelix> some other apps are not
[17:24] <epimeth> I'll have a look
[17:24] <epimeth> hold on
[17:24] <silvelix> ok
[17:24] <_CrashMaster_> Is wine actively running?
[17:24] <silvelix> no
[17:25] <_CrashMaster_> Have you performed the ritual chicken sacrifice?
[17:25] <silvelix> lol
[17:25] <silvelix> what is that?
[17:25] <_CrashMaster_> It's a bad joke, actually. And offtopic as well, so I should stop :)
[17:25] <silvelix> i dont have a chicken here but i have a dog :)
[17:26] <epimeth> silvelix: crispy chicken sandwich from wendy's.... we don't demand too much here :-)
[17:26] <silvelix> its good to punch a joke once in a while
[17:27] <silvelix> no wendys near our place
[17:27] <silvelix> sorry guys
[17:27] <silvelix> but i have a dog though
[17:27] <silvelix> lol
[17:27] <silvelix> just kidding
[17:27] <epimeth> silvelix: I don't see a "disable" option in adept...
[17:28] <silvelix> the first time i opened adept
[17:28] <silvelix> I searched wine
[17:28] <_CrashMaster_> silvelix: You should join #kubuntu-offtopic . I just finished tazing epimeth!
[17:29] <silvelix> then go to settings
[17:29] <silvelix> in the left pane
[17:30] <silvelix> and saw wine in grayed text
[17:30] <silvelix> i think Iḿ lost
[17:30] <epimeth> silvelix: what happens when you sudo apt-get install wine
[17:31] <silvelix> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming.  Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed. The following information m
[17:37] <epimeth> silvelix: you have stumped me... I'm really sorry.  stick around here and ask every now and then if anybody knows they will help.  otherwise try a forum, ubuntuforums.com for example
[17:37] <ads_> is there a tool to crop desktop size??
[17:37] <silvelix> thanks epimeth
[17:39] <mercuree> meh, i have installed xgl, made sure that im using the right nvidia drivers and i still get errors using compiz http://paste.ubuntu.com/23550/
[17:39] <mercuree> any ideas please?
[17:44] <_CrashMaster_> mercuree: What gfx card are you using?
[17:47] <mercuree> _CrashMaster_ nvidia 8500gt 256mb with propreitary drivers
[17:53] <maria> que es esto
[17:57] <epimeth> ~es | maria
[17:57] <|algyz|> !es | maria
[17:57] <maria> ok
[18:04] <some_dude> why   does my firefox crash so much when unloading flash objecsts ?
[18:05] <epimeth> some_dude: because flash is proprietary software with very little support in linux
[18:06] <epimeth> some_dude: luckily, JavaScript is almost at the point where it can replace flash forever
[18:06] <fredthemonkey> hello
[18:06] <fredthemonkey> i'm trying to get snes9express work
[18:07] <fredthemonkey> it asks me for the keyboard-device-path
[18:07] <fredthemonkey> how can i figure out what that is?
[18:09] <fredthemonkey> i guess it starts with /dev/ :?
[18:10] <some_dude> epimeth: so it crashes for everyone ?
[18:11] <some_dude> oh well, I've still got wine and firefox for windows
[18:12] <epimeth> some_dude: how often are we talking here?
[18:13] <some_dude> let's say I go to myspace.com, and open my profile page, and then click off, EVERY TIME. or youtube, about 1/3 of the time
[18:13] <some_dude> aka: alot
[18:13] <fredthemonkey> anyone knows the default keyboard device?
[18:13] <jussi01> some_dude: there is a really old bug about that, I thoiught it was fixed, but you acan take a look
[18:13] <jussi01> !fffc | some_dude
[18:14] <_CrashMaster_> ok. There is just no way he knew that off the top of his head. I demand access to your cheat-sheet.
[18:15] <ads_> is there a way to scale the desktop viewing area???
[18:15] <jussi01> _CrashMaster_: I did. however, I do own the bot...
[18:15] <kazuma_> anyone know of a fix for mouse cursor disapearing.  i boot up and all is fine, hours later, cursor is gone.  kubuntu hardy 64bit wireless mouse
[18:15] <some_dude> arg, it still crashed
[18:15] <some_dude> NOOOOO
[18:15]  * _CrashMaster_ bows in humble respect of jussi01
[18:16] <jussi01> some_dude: have you considered using other browsers? or tried upgrading flash? (or downgrading if you are already on 10)
[18:17] <ads_> desktop is larger than the viewable screen size... changing resolution doesnt make a difference.. how may i scale my desktop??
[18:20] <some_dude> other browsers ? and turn my back on all that is holy ? I pray that mozilla can forgive you
[18:22] <jussi01> some_dude: hehe
[18:23] <kazuma_> can anyone help with mouse cursor disapearing.  restarting X does not fix, have to reboot.   happens 2 or 3 times a day.
[18:24] <some_dude> great so I open firefox from a terminal to see any debugging output, and guess what  ? I can't make it crash
[18:25] <epimeth> lol
[18:25] <epimeth> awsome some_dude
[18:26] <some_dude> Segmentation Fault , that does not say a lot
[18:26] <epimeth> ahahah
[18:28] <some_dude> Master Google believes that the problem is with mozplugger
[18:30] <willluongo> Hello everyone! I have a weird problem. For some reason, my user (and my user only) has messed up something in KDE. THere is only 1 Virtual desktop although it was supposed to be 4, there are no bars across the tops of apps nor buttons. I have tried dcop kicker kicker restart, as well as rebooting. Any ideas?
[18:30] <codex> hello everyone, can anyone tell me how to allow konsole to start up with transparency enabled, with out have to manually enter 'konsole --enable-transparency' ?
[18:31] <willluongo> codex: as far as I know, no. You could alias it however
[18:31] <codex> i tried to use an alias but it's not working when i used kstart menu to launch konsole.
[18:32] <willluongo> You can just edit the konsole link in the kstart menu
[18:32] <codex> willuongo: how do i edit it, i aint see no option to edit it ?
[18:32] <willluongo> Right click the k, and select menu editor
[18:33] <willluongo> then go to system, in the dropdown you will see konsole
[18:33] <willluongo> add --enable-transparency in the command field
[18:33] <codex> willuongo:iam using kde4.
[18:34] <codex> and iam not seeing menu editor anywhere
[18:34] <erwin> hello everybody
[18:34] <willluongo> codex: oh, sorry... I am not sure for 4 but I'd imagine there would be some kind of similar functionality somewhere
[18:34] <willluongo> Maybe right click the actual item?
[18:35] <codex> willuongo:thanks i'll try to find something
[18:39] <codex> willuongo: kmenuedit can be used to change it but it's not pined to the start menu.
[18:42] <madmax__> i need to make my Kubuntu OEM , how can i do it???
[18:42] <willluongo> madmax: you can use the alternate install disc
[18:43] <crowbarate> can neone tell me how to join other channels new to IRC
[18:44] <_CrashMaster_> type /join channelname
[18:44] <madmax__> can you give me link?
[18:44] <crowbarate> how do i get different channel names?
[18:44] <_CrashMaster_> type /list
[18:44] <crowbarate> thanks
[18:44] <_CrashMaster_> np
[18:44] <jpds> crowbarate: do /msg Alis list *keyword*
[18:45] <kiba-kun> I think something gone funky with my firefox profile
[18:45] <stdin> madmax__: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hardy/ and get the alternate cd for your architecture
[18:45] <pater> sory, where can take libgimp2.0
[18:49] <kiba-kun> something is preventing me from using backward and forward and the history button
[18:50] <nicolas> ki est francais
[18:51] <nicolas> slt
[18:51] <nicolas> ki est francais
[18:51] <pim> !fr
[18:51] <jhutchins> kiba-kun: Hah!  That bug goes back to mosaic!
[18:53] <kiba-kun> jhutchins: but I just want to fix it
[18:55] <kiba-kun> whether or not the bug exists since mosaic is irrevelent to me
[18:56] <spyman> boa tarde
[18:56] <keepout> por fim alguem que fala portugues
[18:57] <spyman> hehehe
[18:57] <crowbarate> traveste
[18:58] <spyman> alguem afim de tc
[18:58] <PhilRod> !pt
[19:00] <crowbarate> obrigado grande traveste
[19:00] <compilerwriter> Can anyone tell me how to install Ibex as a second installation on my hard drive; and then, when it is final, switch to that os as the primary OS my machine boots to?  Then I could use the Hardy disk space for jumping jaybird?
[19:03] <crowbarate> compilerwriter
[19:03] <crowbarate> follow this link
[19:03]  * compilerwriter produces flask of scotch to pour for jhutchins
[19:04] <compilerwriter> crowbarate either the link is invisible or it did not come through.
[19:04] <crowbarate> http://www.cracked.com/article_15670_25-most-baffling-toys-from-around-world.html
[19:04] <crowbarate> here
[19:06] <compilerwriter> crowbarate what do crazy toys have to do with my info request?
[19:07] <crowbarate> who said it has anything to dowith your info request
[19:07] <compilerwriter> touche' crobarate
[19:08]  * compilerwriter pours crowbarate some scotch
[19:08]  * compilerwriter wonders if crowbarate would enjoy a 52 guage Cuban to smoke?
[19:09] <crowbarate> lol
[19:09] <tomtomfips> lol
[19:09] <crowbarate> thats going on bash.org
[19:10]  * compilerwriter offers jhutchins and crobarate a Cuban robusto from his humidor
[19:11] <Tonehog> Man, some of the #ubuntu users are rude.
[19:12] <crowbarate> tonehog:u refering to me?
[19:13] <Tonehog> Crowbarate: no, the users in #ubuntu, not here.
[19:13] <crowbarate> kk
[19:15] <macgyber> buenas
[19:19] <jonathan_> hello!
[19:20] <jonathan_> I've a problem ;)
[19:20] <crowbarate> jonathan
[19:20] <user1> leave
[19:22] <jonathan_> i have 120 pictures on my hard drive, with the names Image (1/2/3/4...). But now the pictures are order like this: 100,101,102...109,10,11,12,...19,1,20,21,22...29,2,30,31 etc...
[19:22] <jonathan_> i think it's because the filename doesn't contain to 0 infront of the number...
[19:23] <user1> bye
[19:23] <PhilRod> correct
[19:23] <jonathan_> how can i fix this in dolphin?
[19:23] <PhilRod> user1: type a / in front of the command
[19:24] <PhilRod> jonathan_: do you mean have dolphin sort the existing filenames numerically, or do you want to rename the files?
[19:25]  * PhilRod is trying to think of an evil shell script to do the latter
[19:25] <yakuzi> a few questions: works the ntfs read/write well with fake-RAID? situation: Soltek SL-FRN2-RL with PDC20376 on-board raid controller. Two sata hdd's connected, One hdd is 250 GB, one is 160 GB, both completely ntfs, the 250GB hdd has 2 partitions: C (windows) and D (data) hdd is RAID0, the 160GB hdd has only one partition (data) also RAID0. i've now finaly the possibility to take a good back up of all the data, but is it possible to make a
[19:25] <yakuzi> dual boot with this (windows, kubuntu) without having to format the partitions and after all installing is done, place the data back?
[19:26] <candive> Hi all, How do I put my konqueror bookmarks in order a-z thank you
[19:28] <PhilRod> candive: folder->sort alphabetically in keditbookmarks
[19:28] <PhilRod> (which you can access from bookmarks -> edit bookmarks in konqueror)
[19:30] <dorkface> HI all.  When I press my laptop's volume buttons, kmix seems to increment the increases and decreases in volume by increments of 10%.  However, I would like to know if it is possible to decrease those increments to something like 5% or 1%?  Anyone know how, or know a good place that I could start looking?
[19:31] <jonathan__> no ideas?
[19:32] <candive> PhilRod,I se no option to edit order or sort alphabetically
[19:32] <greenfishx3> whats the command to update and upgrade at the same time? ive tried sudo apt-get update && upgrade, failed
[19:34] <hfsdo> greenfishx3: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:34] <greenfishx3> thanks hfsdo
[19:35] <candive> PhilRod, I found the sort by name etc but it does not do anything do I need to select all first
[19:35] <greenfishx3> hfsdo: is it possible to install without asking for "do you want to install x , yes or no" ? add it to the line?
[19:35] <poliket> hi!
[19:36] <PhilRod> candive: you need to select the top-level folder I imagine
[19:36] <poliket> Anybody knows a spanish kubuntu channel???
[19:36] <hfsdo> greenfishx3:  add -y
[19:36] <PhilRod> !es
[19:36] <poliket> thanks!
[19:37] <poliket> guau! thank you very much!
[19:37] <greenfishx3> thanks again hfsdo
[19:42] <romunov> i'm trying to play an encrypted dvd. i've installed the suggested libraries (sudo /usr/share/doc/kaffeine/install-css.sh) but to no avail
[19:42] <greenfishx3> should i always do purge after apt-get remove ?
[19:44] <manuel_> hola a todo el mundo
[19:44] <candive> PhilRod, got it thank you.
[19:44] <PhilRod> yw
[19:46] <candive> chow
[19:57] <poliket> sorry. I'm quite new with linux (I've spent only few weeks with Kubuntu in order to try)... and I need to buy me a laptop... Before to do it, I wanted to check the possible incompatibilities that I could find with the hardware
[19:57] <_CrashMaster_Hom> !laptop
[19:58] <poliket> I mean I would not like to bay a grphic cards (fo example) and to find after that is not possible to find drivers or whatever...
[19:58] <poliket> ok! :) I wanted just to ask for some website to find information about... but you are really fast
[19:59] <poliket> Thanks!
[19:59] <_CrashMaster_Hom> Well, the three major laptop gfx manufacturers (nvidia, ati and intel) are all supported at the moment.
[19:59] <poliket> and for wireless??? Should I be aware?
[19:59] <_CrashMaster_Hom> THAT gets a little sticky.
[20:00] <_CrashMaster_Hom> Many wifi devices are supported in linux natively. And when they aren't there is always ndiswrapper (lets you use Windows drivers)
[20:00] <_CrashMaster_Hom> !wifi
[20:00] <patrick> im having trouble with a fresh install of Hardy and no audio, any help?
[20:01] <poliket> then, for ATI graphic ccards I read that in some cases it could give some problems too...
[20:01] <_CrashMaster_Hom> Well, Ive always been of the opinion that ATI cards cause problems from the moment you open the box :)
[20:02] <poliket> jejeje
[20:03] <poliket> Ok! I will check web sites you told me... If I have more doubts I will come back (for sure).
[20:03] <poliket> Thank you!
[20:03] <_CrashMaster_Hom> We'ree here to help.
[20:03] <_CrashMaster_Hom> :)
[20:20] <piloto8851> hola...hay alguien??
[20:21] <_CrashMaster_> !es | piloto8851
[20:25] <Traveler009887> &join #opengamedev
[20:27] <rodolfo> #ubuntu-es
[20:29] <andypls1> guys, how can i make it such that when i run "something" in conlose, "/home/me/something" is executed?
[20:31] <_CrashMaster_> andypls1: You want an alias
[20:31] <andypls1> yeah how do i do that?
[20:31] <PhilRod> andypls1: export PATH=/home/me:$PATH
[20:31] <PhilRod> oh yeah, an alias is a better way to do it
[20:31] <PhilRod> alias something=/home/me/something
[20:32] <andypls1> and tha'ts it?
[20:32] <_CrashMaster_> yup
[20:32] <castor> saludos a todos
[20:32] <PhilRod> yes. If you want it to remain across sessions, you'll have to add that line to ~/.bashrc
[20:32] <_CrashMaster_> castor, espanol?
[20:33] <NickPresta> I like to create a 'bin' directory in my $HOME and keep any personal executables in there. I add $HOME/bin/ to my $PATH via .bashrc. It works out well (saves me time from adding alias ontop of alias, etc)
[20:34] <andypls1> ~/.bashrc add that line in the end of the file ?
[20:34] <andypls1> but i want to run "something", not "./something"
[20:34] <_CrashMaster_> No.
[20:35] <_CrashMaster_> There is a file named .bashrc
[20:35] <NickPresta> andypls1, you don't have to run ./something when you put it as an alias (or in a folder in your $PATH)
[20:35] <_CrashMaster_> add the alias something=/home/me/something ling to ./bashrc
[20:35] <andypls1> allright guys thanks a banch!
[20:36] <_CrashMaster_> s/ling/line
[20:41] <andypls1> guys, the name of the program i want to put in ~/.bashrc is one that i can get from apt-get
[20:42] <andypls1> i added it in ~/.bashrc, and it can not find it
[20:42] <andypls1> with a different name
[20:49] <andypls1> when i write it explicitly in the console it works, but when i add the same line in ~/.baskrc it doesn't
[20:49] <andypls1> any idea why?
[20:51] <PhilRod> andypls1: did you start a new console? bashrc is only read when you start a new console (or run ". .bashrc")
[20:51] <PhilRod> (yes, there are really two dots there with a space between them)
[20:52] <lumpycow> "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/pidgin-developers/ubuntu hardy main" is that the proper line to put in the sources list?
[20:52] <andypls1> yes
[20:53] <andypls1> the console i run is also a root one
[20:54] <PhilRod> andypls1: you can see the list of currently-set aliases by just running "alias" on the command line
[20:56] <compilerwriter> Wonderful torrent swarm for Ibex rc 1
[20:56] <andypls1> wow
[20:56] <andypls1> it only finds it when it is a normal shell
[20:56] <andypls1> not a root one
[20:56] <andypls1> why is that?
[21:29] <lernte> help
[21:29] <lernte> oops
[21:43] <mercuree> !kubuntu
[21:43] <mercuree> !kde
[21:46] <dennister> hey channel, what could be causing a computer to keep freezing? new installation here (I finally got it installed, and saved failing dvdrw drive with thorough cleaning, so now it works again) , and it's the keyboard input that keeps failing...even with livecd's...the only thing that seems to work when it crashes immediately after bootup is the cpu box's "off" buttons
[21:47] <dennister> and yes, i have swapped the keyboard...it happens with all of them
[21:49] <dennister> anyone have any ideas?
[21:52] <mercuree> dennister: usb or ps2 kb?
[21:52] <kurohyou> how do i play rmvb files with kaffeine?
[21:53] <dorian_> how do i split a video file in kubuntu ?
[21:53] <dennister> mercuree: ps2
[21:54] <kurohyou> anyone? rm or rmvb files in kubuntu?
[21:55] <phrek> what is a good wifi manager ?
[21:55] <dennister> new info: I let it cool down for a few minutes, then the keyboard worked long enough for me to hit 'esc' to get into grub (one OS, sometimes keyboard is so nonresponsive from the get go I can't even get into grub) so I was able to hit recovery mode option, and I got a kernel panic before all hung
[21:57] <dorian_> how do i split a video file in kubuntu ?
[21:58] <dorian_> i want it's sound
[21:59] <dennister> have i hit the nail? ie source of issue? kernel panics?
[21:59] <_sourcemaker> is kde4 ready for daily use?
[22:01] <dennister> has anyone else ever experienced a kernel panic before, and able to tell me its symptoms?
[22:01] <mercuree> sorry dennister i got busy with something.. did you come right yet? have you tried a usb kb?
[22:02] <mercuree> dennister: i have, with faulty ram and harddrive
[22:02] <sfjwem> can someone help me with the installation of the Domino theme please?
[22:02] <dennister> mercuree: they're all ps2 that I've tried
[22:02] <mercuree> i think there are many reasons it can occur
[22:02] <mercuree> dennister: can you give us the text of the kernel panic?
[22:03] <dennister> mercuree: do u think this could be the source of my problem with keyboard immediate lockups and total system hangs?
[22:03] <dennister> mercuree: too bad i can't give kernel panic text...shut system down again
[22:03] <mercuree> i would think so yes..
[22:04] <dennister> but i'll boot back up to try and duplicate
[22:04] <mercuree> generally when I had that problem the system was nonresponsive
[22:04] <mercuree> you might have to write it down
[22:07] <dennister> ok, well i just rebooted, able to get into grub, recovery mode, and just for kicks, thought it'd try to startx...i should have gotten a "no, root can't startx", but I didn't...x started up
[22:08] <dennister> didn't get the kernel panic at all that time
[22:08] <dennister> and so far i haven't got a system hang...will try to get a few diagnostic stuff done before the next freeze...and will do a memtest as soon as i can
[22:09] <mercuree> yes startx works from a terminal for root, logging in via gdm is not allowed. I presume this is the same for kdm
[22:11] <dennister> ahhh, ok...well, i couldn't even get to get rid of that lousy splash by editing grub's menu.list before the system froze again
[22:12] <dennister> as long as the mobo isn't dying...ram i've got (although 184p is in short supply)
[22:14] <mercuree> lol one thing at a time. fix the boot problems before you start making it boot differently. did you write down the error? if i remember correctly the last time this happened to me i had to keep restarting to get the full message
[22:14] <geek> does anyone know if amarok or any other software can be used instead of itunes on a ipod classic? i'm looking at getting one, but naturally would like it to play nice with my kubuntu install...
[22:15] <dennister> mercuree: didn't see the error that time, so I couldn't write it down :-) since then, i've tried rebooting twice, but can't use the keyboard even to get into grub
[22:16] <mercuree> meh. do you not have a usb keyboard?
[22:16] <mercuree> to test with to see if the same prob occurs.
[22:16] <dennister> with the splash there, i can't see what's going on behind the scenes enuf to write down any messages
[22:17] <dennister> unfortunately, a usb keyboard is not something i have...have tons of other stuff here, but not that
[22:17] <dennister> hold on...i do have some adapters i can pull out...forgot about them
[22:17] <mercuree> have you tried reinstalling already?
[22:18] <dennister> mercuree: this is a new installation
[22:19] <dennister> the multimedia and desktop works...just did a partimage backup, too, of root partition
[22:22] <mercuree> how are you getting all that done if your kb does not work?
[22:22] <mercuree> have you checked bios settings?
[22:25] <dennister> mercuree: the multimedia and desktop worked this morning, was still installing, did the partimage backup with systemrescuecd...whole system crashed after that image was done..........see? system is crashing even with livecd mode...haven't been able to get much done since that partimage crash
[22:25] <dennister> now i was able to get keyboard working to get into grub--->recovery mode, and now have some data for you
[22:27] <dennister> this time it doesn't say "kernel panic" but at the top of the monitor it says Process udevd..., next line is Stack...then Call Trace, followed by 8 lines of code, then EIP (....}rb_erase...... and finally "fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed!"
[22:27] <dennister> everything but the recursvie fault line is similar to what i saw with the kernel panic
[22:30] <mercuree> hmm i dunno. that means nothing to me :) googling it tho
[22:30] <_sourcemaker> is there an upgrade available... to upgrade kde3 to kde4 using hardy?
[22:32] <sourcemaker> #ubuntu-de
[22:33] <jussi01> sourcemaker: have a look at the topic of #kubuntu-kde4 :)
[22:33] <sourcemaker> jussi01:  thanks.. i will try now...
[22:45] <zendo> Hello. I Installed emerald (from adept), but when I type `emerald --replace` nothing happens. Can someone please tell me how to start it?
[22:50] <Odd-rationale> zendo: you have to have compiz runnign to use emerald.
[22:51] <zendo> Odd-rationale:  when I try to start `compiz --replace` window borders are gone.  How should I start both of them please?
[22:51] <Odd-rationale> zendo: after you have compiz running, do alt+f2 and type "emerald --replace"
[22:52] <zendo> so I should try something like `compiz --replace; emerald --replace` ?
[22:52] <sfjwem> can someone help me install this? http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/LightGrey+for+Domino?content=52721
[22:52] <Odd-rationale> zendo: or if you have compizconfig-settings-manager, you can set the window decoration to emerald, so that emerald starts with compiz.
[23:04] <knulfine> hi ... is there a german channel, too?
[23:04] <geek> !de
[23:05] <knulfine> thanks geek
[23:05] <geek> np
[23:05] <geek> does anyone know if amarok or any other software can be used instead of itunes on a ipod classic? i'm looking at getting one, but naturally would like it to play nice with my kubuntu install...
[23:06] <knulfine> i don't like amarok very much
[23:06] <knulfine> vlc is good
[23:06] <geek> knulfine: i can't use amarok with a ipod ;p
[23:06] <knulfine> oh lol ok geek
[23:07] <geek> ideally i'd just get a mass storage compliant mp3 player, but there's nothing that matches what i want
[23:07] <geek> (hard disk based, LOTS of space)
[23:08] <geek> and i can get the 160 gig one for about 40 singapore dollars more than the 32 gig flash based zen my bro has
[23:09] <codster> hello
[23:09] <codster> What program in kubuntu will Burn an ISO that is bootable?
[23:09] <bleaked> codster: k3b
[23:09] <geek> codster: k3b
[23:09] <codster> im going to burn a Copy of Xubuntu and wanted to know
[23:09] <codster> okay thanks
[23:09] <codster> this will make it bootable?
[23:09] <bleaked> codster: if the iso was created that way
[23:10] <codster> okay its an offical release :D
[23:10] <geek> the iso itself is bootable. if you burn a disk and there's only one file, you did it wrong ;p
[23:10] <codster> yeah
[23:10] <codster> i know ive done that :(
[23:10] <codster> with windows thou.
[23:10] <bleaked> codster: in k3b, go to Tools, then Burn Image
[23:10] <codster> yeah :D im in it now
[23:11] <geek> codster: i just use imgburn for cd burning on windows. its a very idiotproof interface
[23:11] <codster> lol
[23:12] <geek> codster: well its just tough enough to scare off most idiots ;p
[23:12] <codster> well i used Magiciso befor, and it works. its just my uncle's PC has a weird Image burning software, and i click on burn bootable image disc yet it doesnt boot from CD it show the ISO on the disc :(
[23:12] <geek> oh burn bootable disk image is different
[23:12] <codster> now that i have a burner i wanted to know which tool in kubuntu works :)
[23:13] <geek> it expects you to point at a boot sector file
[23:13] <codster> ohhh
[23:13] <codster> mhm, maybe thats why it didnt work.
[23:14] <codster> well going to run to the store and grab a blank cd bye
[23:16] <Wulfboi> i'm running hardy with kde 3, with desktop effects enabled how can i have my open windows not show up in the taskbar on the other faces of the desktop cube?
[23:17] <bleaked> question, how does one configure the colour of the text in the taskbar applet.  i tried the taskbar section of desktop config menu..but that didn't do anything.  I should note that I'm using taskbar-compiz (official from the repos) and not the standard taskbar applet.
[23:17] <bleaked> Wulfboi: heh, funny.. this is related to my question..
[23:17] <bleaked> Wulfboi: you need to do two things
[23:18] <Wulfboi> what do i need to do?
[23:19] <knulfine> !de
[23:20] <bleaked> Wulfboi: here this post explains it well.. basically you're installing taskbar-compiz, replacing the panel, and changing a config option to not show on all desktops: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5135181&postcount=3
[23:21] <Wulfboi> ok, thank you
[23:24] <codster> how reasonable does 900Mhz AMD Duron CPU sound for running a file server?
[23:24] <codster> i do have some 500Mhz P3's
[23:25] <eagles0513875> codster: ur problem wiht that as a file server is the bandwith you might need to put in multiple netowrk nics
[23:25] <eagles0513875> even with the 500mhsz
[23:25] <eagles0513875> *your
[23:25] <codster> yeah i have some cards
[23:25] <codster> 4 10/100 Ethernet cards
[23:25] <codster> all Dlink
[23:25] <eagles0513875> not sure bout their nics but someone was in here with issues with their dsl modem/router
[23:26] <eagles0513875> does it have one on the mobo
[23:26] <codster> mhm, im running a Netgear router, i just want a simple file server to hold my things
[23:26] <codster> no
[23:26] <codster> PCi cards
[23:26] <eagles0513875> i would throw 2 nics in there
[23:26] <codster> yeah
[23:26] <eagles0513875> if at all possible some how setup load balancing
[23:26] <codster> well why do i need 2?
[23:26] <codster> shouldnt one be good from nic to router?
[23:26] <eagles0513875> then in that case u have to test it out
[23:26] <codster> 15mbps connection
[23:26] <codster> mhm, i will
[23:26] <eagles0513875> one thing u will want is ram on the server
[23:27] <codster> yes
[23:27] <eagles0513875> how much ram is in it
[23:27] <codster> lol none right no
[23:27] <Queen[Borg]> !de
[23:27] <codster> now* well
[23:27] <codster> 256mb
[23:27] <codster> :( its a scrap PC im collecting parts you know.
[23:27] <eagles0513875> icky lol at that rate you will be using lots of swap
[23:27] <codster> yeah
[23:27] <eagles0513875> codster: wouldnt mind having machines like those to cluster together
[23:27] <codster> well its only SDRAM 133Mhz and i havent seen shops selling any sticks of it
[23:27] <codster> yeah. thats what i was going to do but there not the same hardware :(
[23:28] <eagles0513875> ebay
[23:28] <codster> its easier/faster for everything to be the same
[23:28] <eagles0513875> codster: they dont have to be
[23:28] <codster> oh, i read in the wiki about it. or a site why i wanted to try it out.
[23:28] <eagles0513875> if one is faster then the other just give it a slightly larger chunk of work while the homoginous ones get same amount of data
[23:28] <eagles0513875> codster: www.beowulf.org
[23:28] <codster> yeah,
[23:28] <eagles0513875> codster: thats a clustering site they have a mailing list you can ask questions on it
[23:29] <codster> well my school has old P3's 333Mhz 64megs of ram and nic card, 10gb HDD in them, i wanna see if i can get them there dell optiplex's and they are laydown PC's
[23:29] <codster> so they laydown and would be good to stack and cluster
[23:29] <mercuree> codster: google beowulf clusters
[23:29] <codster> yeah
[23:29] <eagles0513875> mercuree: i gave him the site
[23:30] <codster> or i can use xbox's there only 50$ :)
[23:30] <eagles0513875> beowulf.org
[23:30] <geek> codster: my server back in UK is a P IIII 450 ;p
[23:30] <codster> lol
[23:30] <codster> well what are the requirments?
[23:30] <codster> i just wanted to know what a server is really? like i know it runs websites but what else can it do?
[23:30] <eagles0513875> ?
[23:31] <codster> because i can probably do alot with the hardware i have around myhouse
[23:31] <eagles0513875> dhcp dns mail server webserver vpn
[23:31] <geek> codster: in that case, i use it as a central torrent server, and sort of terminal services via freenx
[23:31] <eagles0513875> u could probably host a webserver on the 900mhz but will need multiple nics
[23:31] <codster> well i wanted to set up a simple Fileserver so me and my friend can access it, or i can from anywhere
[23:31] <eagles0513875> codster: y not setup an ftp server
[23:31] <eagles0513875> *why
[23:31] <codster> see and i dont understand about the nics?
[23:31] <geek> codster: oh. you could do that on anything ;p
[23:31] <codster> i tried on windows
[23:32] <codster> why do i need multiple?
[23:32]  * geek tends to have SSH installed standard so uses sftp a lot
[23:32] <codster> do i have 4 nics up to 4 ports on my router?
[23:32] <eagles0513875> codster: there will be a major bottleneck with just one card
[23:32] <codster> mhm,
[23:32] <codster> so the nics kinda act like CPU cores?
[23:32] <geek> would depend on volume
[23:32] <geek> don't forget, you have a HUGE bottleneck with the actual net connections
[23:33] <eagles0513875> codster: they help facilitate like geek said depending on teh volume transfer of data to the client machines connected to it
[23:33] <geek> you're never actually gonna use your shiny 10 mbps cards at that speed ;p
[23:33] <codster> yeah
[23:33] <codster> well there 100
[23:33] <codster> mbps.
[23:33] <codster> I just want to know you hook em all up to the router? Nic to Port on the router
[23:34] <codster> lol i can see my self having 4 nics only 1 connected :D
[23:34] <eagles0513875> codster: is your router acting as dhcp
[23:34] <codster> yes
[23:34] <geek> codster: if its only for a few people, i think it shouldn't matter
[23:34] <eagles0513875> then u can get a switch a 4 port switch
[23:34] <codster> yeah thats true
[23:34] <geek> get a decent router tho
[23:34] <codster> yeah
[23:34] <codster> netgear isnt really top of the line sorta speak
[23:34] <eagles0513875> or you can still do it turn dhcp off run static ip network but they plug into ur router
[23:34] <codster> well the one i have...
[23:35] <geek> well, i tend to favour DD WRT
[23:35] <eagles0513875> i gtg guys
[23:35] <codster> thanks eagles for your info
[23:35] <eagles0513875> linksys geek
[23:35] <codster> bye
[23:35] <eagles0513875> im off guys gotta head to airport
[23:36] <eagles0513875> codster: if you have questions get on the beowulf.org mailing list and ask on there lots of people that work in places where they get cluster funding if your interested at all in starting a cluster with your machines
[23:37] <codster> well im actually more intrested in doing it,
[23:37] <davidib> anyone does know where i can find the firefox 3 icon? i did apt-get install firefox3
[23:37] <codster> i was running Folding @ home befor,
[23:37] <codster> on just a standalone PC,
[23:37] <eagles0513875> codster: beowulf.org mailing list is your best place to start
[23:37] <codster> yeah
[23:37] <codster> thanks,
[23:38] <davidib> heloo
[23:38] <davidib> hello
[23:42] <codster> I have some IDE drive's how do i hookup multiple Drives to a PC?
[23:42] <codster> and will Kubuntu recognize if i stick another drive on Slave Primary?
[23:42] <codster> i know there is a card you can get, something about Raid in windows. and i think its SATA and not ATA.
[23:43] <davidib> hello what is this room for?
[23:43] <codster> tech help
[23:43] <codster> on Kubuntu
[23:43] <greenfishx3> codster, will linux detect your SATA interface? yes
[23:43] <codster> well i dont have SATA drives
[23:43] <greenfishx3> sda
[23:43] <greenfishx3> oh sorry
[23:44] <codster> I have a normal IDE setup
[23:44] <davidib> ah ok
[23:44] <greenfishx3> I dont see why not
[23:44] <codster> primary/secondary i have 2 drives on Primary and was wondering can i stick another On secondary Slave?
[23:44] <greenfishx3> linux doesnt care about active partitions like windows
[23:44] <davidib> anyone does know where i can find firefox3 icon? i 've just installed but i cant see the icon
[23:44] <greenfishx3> codster, again I dont see why not :)
[23:44] <codster> okay
[23:44] <codster> lol guess im gunna have to try it
[23:44] <greenfishx3> yeah
[23:46] <codster> mhm i wonder if i can hook up all 4 IDE drives :D
[23:46] <pavel> Hi all
[23:46] <codster> hello
[23:46] <davidib> hi codster
[23:46] <davidib> what are you tryingg to do?
[23:47] <codster> set up multiple drives in my PC
[23:47] <geek> codster: yes. peobably
[23:47] <codster> wow, i love this! :D i tried to do that in windows
[23:47] <codster> wouldnt detect them
[23:47] <greenfishx3> thats odd
[23:47] <codster> well i tried to have 3 drives, connected
[23:47] <greenfishx3> did you change the right jumper
[23:47] <pavel> fu** I don speak english very well
[23:47] <codster> yes
[23:47] <codster> it detect it in my Bios too
[23:47] <pavel> :(
[23:47] <mercuree> ok I have now completely uninstalled compiz and emerald
[23:47] <davidib> 3 hard disk?
[23:47] <mercuree> I want to try reinstalling (again) and i think the following would be right:
[23:47] <pavel> och
[23:47] <greenfishx3> pavel....
[23:48] <mercuree>  apt-get install compiz-core compizconfig-settings-manager compiz-kde emerald fusion-icon
[23:48] <mercuree> does that look right? ist there anything i should add to that?
[23:48] <geek> codster: done with 4
[23:48] <codster> what? youve done it
[23:48] <geek> pavel: what language do you speak
[23:48] <geek> codster: hard drives ;p
[23:48] <codster> nice, well i gotta reboot
[23:48] <codster> hook em all up then partition them
[23:48] <codster> brb
[23:48] <greenfishx3> mercuree: yeah thats about right
[23:48] <pavel> geek: I m from czech republic - my language is czech :)
[23:49] <geek> pavel: there might be a czech language channel..
[23:49] <geek> !cz
[23:49] <davidib> hehe
[23:49] <davidib> is this english bush channel?
[23:49] <geek> might help a little lanuage wise, if anyone is there
[23:49]  * geek wonders
[23:49] <geek> !tm
[23:49] <geek> ok, no tamil channel XD
[23:50] <davidib> geet what is your language?
[23:52] <geek> davidib: i speak fluent english, and tamil, and basic french
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> lo all