| MetaMorfoziS | hi all | 00:13 |
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| MetaMorfoziS | http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/intrepid/cryptsetup | 00:13 |
| MetaMorfoziS | here the diff (and probably other links ) 404 | 00:13 |
| MetaMorfoziS | and the binary download page ony has 2-3 proper link, the others 404 | 00:13 |
| MetaMorfoziS | Any idea? | 00:14 |
| MetaMorfoziS | How can i get that src? | 00:14 |
| sistpoty | MetaMorfoziS: probably packages.u.c. wasn't synced yet... you might try https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup | 00:19 |
| sistpoty | MetaMorfoziS: (and in case you have a patch or s.th. you could also ask siretart) ;) | 00:19 |
| MetaMorfoziS | thank you | 00:21 |
| sistpoty | np | 00:21 |
| MetaMorfoziS | cool | 00:21 |
| MetaMorfoziS | no, i haven't got any patch | 00:23 |
| MetaMorfoziS | i jsut want to get it work better | 00:23 |
| MetaMorfoziS | :) | 00:23 |
| sistpoty | heh | 00:23 |
| MetaMorfoziS | so i try to build it (I'm on hardy) | 00:23 |
| MetaMorfoziS | but that version is khm...:) | 00:23 |
| daskreech | Hallo | 00:23 |
| MetaMorfoziS | so thats why:) | 00:23 |
| MetaMorfoziS | hy:) | 00:23 |
| daskreech | is there an approved way to install VBox in hardy? | 00:24 |
| sistpoty | daskreech: you mean virtualbox or s.th. else? | 00:24 |
| MetaMorfoziS | daskreech > first, this isn't the better place | 00:24 |
| MetaMorfoziS | anyways there are debs for ubuntu | 00:24 |
| MetaMorfoziS | on vbox's site | 00:24 |
| daskreech | Virtual box sorry | 00:25 |
| daskreech | MetaMorfoziS: Not for the ose | 00:25 |
| daskreech | Open source edition. | 00:25 |
| sistpoty | daskreech: s.th. like apt-get install virtualbox-ose ;) | 00:25 |
| daskreech | will that ever be supplied for hardy by Ubuntu ? | 00:25 |
| sistpoty | daskreech: it should be there imo | 00:26 |
| daskreech | 1.6 ? | 00:26 |
| daskreech | Oh sorry should have mentioned 1.6 ;) | 00:26 |
| pochu | you can request a backport | 00:27 |
| pochu | but as MetaMorfoziS said, this isn't the best place for that kind of questions... | 00:27 |
| daskreech | motu ? | 00:27 |
| MetaMorfoziS | #ubuntu? | 00:28 |
| daskreech | That's support isn't it not packaging? | 00:29 |
| pochu | yes, #ubuntu-motu would be the right place | 00:30 |
| daskreech | thanks!! | 00:30 |
| MetaMorfoziS | http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads | 00:30 |
| MetaMorfoziS | but this is why don't enough for you? | 00:30 |
| MetaMorfoziS | i don't udnerstand what is the problem with it... | 00:30 |
| MetaMorfoziS | download, select ubuntu and that's all | 00:30 |
| daskreech | MetaMorfoziS: I'd prefer the open source edition is all | 00:30 |
| MetaMorfoziS | but this is the opensource edition imho | 00:31 |
| daskreech | I'll do that if I need to but just exploring | 00:31 |
| daskreech | no the have a page on the wiki saying there is a difference | 00:31 |
| daskreech | thanks though | 00:31 |
| MetaMorfoziS | I'm googling for it (the problem is don'T know what exactly i need diff or patch) but if somebody knows, please tell me how can i apply something.diff.gz | 00:34 |
| MetaMorfoziS | that contains a directory tree with a lot of files | 00:34 |
| MetaMorfoziS | so some batch-patch way needed:) | 00:34 |
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| pochu | zcat ../something.diff.gz | patch -p1 | 00:35 |
| ion_ | sejeff: Thanks for the information! | 00:35 |
| MetaMorfoziS | pochu > thanks, but i don't exactly understand what happened. I have extracted the cryptsetup orig source | 00:38 |
| MetaMorfoziS | and did what you said | 00:38 |
| MetaMorfoziS | then it created a new dir named debian | 00:38 |
| pochu | MetaMorfoziS: do that inside cryptsetup-*/ | 00:38 |
| MetaMorfoziS | oh! okay, i try again | 00:39 |
| MetaMorfoziS | but it again created a debian folder | 00:39 |
| MetaMorfoziS | and didn't touched any other files | 00:39 |
| MetaMorfoziS | i get the stuffs from here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/cryptsetup/2:1.0.6-2ubuntu7 | 00:40 |
| pochu | MetaMorfoziS: if you have the .orig.tar.gz, .diff.gz and .dsc, it's easier to 'dpkg-source -x *.dsc' | 00:41 |
| MetaMorfoziS | hmm i try that too | 00:42 |
| MetaMorfoziS | thanks | 00:44 |
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| emgent | night. | 00:59 |
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| slangasek | cody-somerville: well, xcfe4-dict is uninstallable on amd64 still which breaks the install on that arch, but otherwise the install went clean; I assume you're testing i386? | 01:41 |
| cody-somerville | slangasek, yup | 01:44 |
| cody-somerville | slangasek, can you manually drop xfce4-dict for this build to fix amd64? | 01:46 |
| slangasek | cody-somerville: something has to be fixed to not try to install it, surely? | 01:47 |
| cody-somerville | slangasek, I'm pretty sure it is just seeded. One second. | 01:48 |
| slangasek | cody-somerville: well, the installer didn't like that it was uninstallable; I assume it wouldn't like that it's removed from the image either | 01:48 |
| slangasek | fwiw, I've just uploaded the merge of debhelper that will make xfce4-dict buildable again | 01:51 |
| slangasek | cody-somerville: I have to run out right now anyway, and by the time I get back debhelper should be built, so I'll just plan to fix the xfce4-dict installability that way | 01:55 |
| cody-somerville | slangasek, awesome :) | 01:55 |
| slangasek | cody-somerville: please test the current i386 build all the same, because if there are any other issues we'll need to make sure they get fixed in the same pass | 01:57 |
| * cody-somerville nods. | 01:57 | |
| cody-somerville | Working on it right now. | 01:57 |
| kees | slangasek: before DIF, is there some way to get a list of all the FTBFS auto-sync'd packages in the archive without screen-scraping the build logs? (for me to find hardening option fall-out) | 02:03 |
| wgrant | kees: http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs might be helpful. | 02:04 |
| wgrant | That will list all FTBFSes. | 02:04 |
| wgrant | And I could probably whip up one with just syncs in a couple of minutes. | 02:04 |
| wgrant | kees: And didn't we pass DIF a couple of days back? | 02:05 |
| kees | wgrant: oh, whoops, heh, it was yesterday. | 02:06 |
| kees | wgrant: cool. how is that website generated, out of curiosity? | 02:08 |
| wgrant | kees: It scrapes LP failed build lists, and works out which of those are for the latest SPR. | 02:10 |
| wgrant | (the source should be linked down the bottom, as long as I haven't restricted my ~ too much...) | 02:11 |
| kees | cool, cool. | 02:12 |
| kees | do you download the logfiles? | 02:13 |
| wgrant | No, but they're all directly linked there, and it would be easy enough to. | 02:13 |
| kees | right, I was just curious if there was a single blob or rsync I could do. :) | 02:13 |
| kees | I'll use this to pull all the fail logs and look for hardening option failures. | 02:14 |
| wgrant | If you want, I'll alter it to grab any logs it doesn't already have each time it runs. Probably useful for other things too. | 02:15 |
| kees | it might be useful. actually... is that code published anywhere? I could add a set of key phrases to look for, and then add a flag for "possible hardneing option failure" or something like that. | 02:20 |
| kees | wait, actually, never mind | 02:20 |
| kees | I'm going to need to pull all the build log to search for the -Wformat warnings (which don't cause build failures) anyway. | 02:20 |
| wgrant | kees: The code is all linked down the bottom of that page. | 02:21 |
| kees | oh! hah, so it it. I didn't notice the little 'source' link. ;) | 02:22 |
| nxvl | kees: around? | 02:26 |
| kees | nxvl: hola | 02:26 |
| * kees is in suspense | 02:28 | |
| nxvl | :p | 02:28 |
| nxvl | kees: sorry, i was in other tab | 02:28 |
| nxvl | kees: i hvae uploaded some other versions of augeas (same version with fixes) | 02:28 |
| kees | hehe, no problem:) | 02:28 |
| nxvl | also i replied to your mail | 02:28 |
| kees | nxvl: everything in my first email was addressed? | 02:29 |
| bliZZardz | wgrant : can you share the link once more (came in late) .. am also thinking of building a 'wrapper' on top of LP | 02:29 |
| nxvl | (like a week ago :P) | 02:29 |
| nxvl | kees: yep | 02:29 |
| kees | nxvl: \o/ I will go take a look. | 02:29 |
| nxvl | kees: at least i think it is | 02:29 |
| kees | you wrote the 2nd man page? | 02:29 |
| nxvl | kees: also some soren and siretart suggestions | 02:29 |
| nxvl | oh no | 02:29 |
| nxvl | that's the only think missing | 02:30 |
| nxvl | i'm waiting for upstream to do it (they say they will we this weekend on the worst scenario) | 02:30 |
| kees | okay, cool. | 02:30 |
| nxvl | but i haven't check | 02:30 |
| nxvl | i have had a busy week | 02:30 |
| kees | nxvl: with augeus, or generally? | 02:32 |
| nxvl | kees: i replied to your mail | 02:32 |
| kees | nxvl: okay, thanks | 02:33 |
| nxvl | like a week ago | 02:33 |
| nxvl | no, i have had a busy week at work | 02:33 |
| nxvl | i was in an internal course | 02:33 |
| * kees nods | 02:33 | |
| nxvl | also i'm on the deadline of univerity works | 02:33 |
| nxvl | and examsn | 02:33 |
| nxvl | so have been busy | 02:33 |
| nxvl | and also giving augeas some time daily | 02:33 |
| nxvl | (you can tell by the daily uploads on revu :D) | 02:34 |
| kees | :) | 02:34 |
| kees | do you have the revu url handy? | 02:34 |
| nxvl | yep | 02:34 |
| nxvl | http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=augeas | 02:34 |
| nxvl | btw | 02:35 |
| nxvl | how did you checked the rpath issue? i can make lintian tell me anything | 02:36 |
| nxvl | just the man page missing thing | 02:36 |
| kees | nxvl: if you've got a few minutes, go ahead and file the ITP in Debian for it, that was on my list too. | 02:36 |
| nxvl | kees: i have | 02:36 |
| nxvl | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=487896 | 02:36 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 487896 in wnpp "ITP: augeas -- A library for programmatically editing configuration files" [Wishlist,Open] | 02:36 |
| nxvl | it's on the new debian version | 02:36 |
| kees | ah! okay, sorry, I didn't see it in the revu changelog, no worries | 02:36 |
| nxvl | (on mentors) | 02:37 |
| kees | cool | 02:37 |
| nxvl | http://mentors.debian.net/cgi-bin/sponsor-pkglist?action=details;package=augeas | 02:37 |
| kees | mentors doesn't have a browseable expanded directory, so I was poking at revu for the moemnt. ;) | 02:37 |
| nxvl | yep | 02:37 |
| nxvl | i know taht | 02:37 |
| nxvl | :D | 02:37 |
| nxvl | also it doesn't have the nice diff's | 02:37 |
| nxvl | :D | 02:37 |
| kees | nxvl: do you have lintian installed when you do builds? I'm still seeing augtool needing rpath fixes (says lintian) | 02:56 |
| slangasek | kees: I don't know of a good way to identify those packages as a class, no | 03:03 |
| slangasek | cody-somerville: any news on the i386 install test? | 03:04 |
| cody-somerville | slangasek, so far so good | 03:04 |
| slangasek | ok | 03:05 |
| slangasek | xfce4-dict is building now on amd64 | 03:05 |
| cody-somerville | splendid. | 03:05 |
| kees | 000 | 03:18 |
| kees | gah, cat. | 03:19 |
| slangasek | useless keypress of cat | 03:19 |
| cody-somerville | slangasek, appears good | 03:38 |
| slangasek | cody-somerville: please document this in the ISO tracker | 03:52 |
| slangasek | oh, you did alerady :) | 03:52 |
| slangasek | cody-somerville: ok, so xfce4-dict amd64 missed this publishing run, which means I get to wait another hour before I can have a fixed amd64 CD, and then after that we still need rsyncing and testing of both architectures | 03:54 |
| slangasek | cody-somerville: what do you think about pushing out the existing i386 build, and then I can test amd64 a little bit later and push out the updated image if it looks ok? | 03:54 |
| slangasek | (I would in that case go ahead with announcing the alpha before the amd64 build is up, as well) | 03:56 |
| wgrant | kees: That easteregg is unfortunately buggy in Compiz :( | 04:02 |
| kees | wgrant: hehe, yeah, I'd noticed that too. :P | 04:05 |
| slangasek | cody-somerville: ok, making an executive decision to do the thing I said above; I'll be available for kicking in an hour or two if you disagree :) | 04:15 |
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| slangasek | calc: still hammering away at OOo? | 05:59 |
| cody-somerville | slangasek, ok. | 06:00 |
| slangasek | cody-somerville: ah, still up? :) | 06:00 |
| slangasek | publisher is taking tooo looooong, I'm still waiting for xfce4-dict/amd64 to be out | 06:01 |
| cody-somerville | slangasek, aye. I was at the other computer doing dirty, proprietary work stuff :( | 06:01 |
| slangasek | heh :) | 06:01 |
| * cody-somerville doesn't understand the hyper about Macs - he hates the one has to use for his current project at work. | 06:02 | |
| calc | slangasek: uploading it now | 06:07 |
| calc | slangasek: will take an hour or so | 06:07 |
| calc | i'm not at home so once it finishes uploading to chinstrap i have to dput from there | 06:14 |
| calc | i'll be heading home soon, and can do it when i get there | 06:14 |
| * calc bbl | 06:14 | |
| calc | slangasek: uploaded to the queue | 07:21 |
| slangasek | thanks | 07:21 |
| calc | slangasek: the code has already been tested on amd64/i386/lpia for building at least | 07:22 |
| calc | slangasek: i uploaded a ppa of it thursday night | 07:22 |
| calc | i just upped the version number and added the changelog entry | 07:22 |
| calc | my dad's new Core2Quad Q9300 (2.5GHz) uses less power (at idle anyway) than his old athlon xp 1800 | 07:23 |
| calc | ~ 90W at the wall vs ~ 140W | 07:24 |
| * calc is now headed to bed, bbl | 07:30 | |
| calc | slangasek: oh yea assuming this one passes inspection it will need to be copied into intrepid as well | 07:31 |
| slangasek | ok | 07:31 |
| slangasek | g'night then | 07:31 |
| calc | have fun :) | 07:31 |
| kahrytan | What kernel is in ibex? | 08:20 |
| StevenK | kahrytan: At the moment, Intrepid has the same kernel as Hardy. It's planned to be 2.6.26. | 08:25 |
| slangasek | StevenK: actually, we're already at 2.6.26(pre) in intrepid | 08:26 |
| slangasek | not on lpia, mind | 08:26 |
| StevenK | Ah. | 08:26 |
| * StevenK is out of date. | 08:26 | |
| wgrant | StevenK: I think even linux-meta is 2.6.26 now. | 08:26 |
| StevenK | I see that. | 08:29 |
| kahrytan | slangasek, whats in first alpha? | 08:29 |
| slangasek | 2.6.26pre. | 08:29 |
| kahrytan | basicly, beta kernel | 08:29 |
| slangasek | mentioned in the technical overview page. | 08:30 |
| kahrytan | RC5 oops | 08:30 |
| kahrytan | ill put in vbox | 08:30 |
| kahrytan | Quiet place | 09:40 |
| geser | !weekend | 09:40 |
| ubottu | It's a weekend. Often on weekends, the paid developers, and a lot of the community, may not be around to answer your question. Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would, or try again during the working week. | 09:40 |
| kahrytan | oh hello heser | 09:41 |
| kahrytan | geser | 09:41 |
| kahrytan | geser, are you developer? | 09:43 |
| geser | I'm a MOTU | 09:43 |
| kahrytan | Busy person eh | 09:43 |
| geser | yes, as universe isn't small | 09:44 |
| nxvl | universe rocks | 09:45 |
| kahrytan | Does vbox/vmware testing even matter to ubuntu? | 09:47 |
| nxvl | yep | 09:47 |
| kahrytan | Mattered most for Hardy though | 09:47 |
| nxvl | (if you mean test alphas/betas using vbox/vmware) | 09:47 |
| kahrytan | nxvl, why does it matter? | 09:48 |
| nxvl | because we don't care only for hw testing, also for procedure/packages/instalation | 09:50 |
| slangasek | nxvl: I sense a spin-off of a spin-off in the making. "I love the whole universe // and all its unpacked source <boom de ah da>" | 09:50 |
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| nxvl | which are hw independt | 09:50 |
| nxvl | slangasek: | 09:50 |
| nxvl | slangasek: :D | 09:50 |
| nxvl | slangasek: is just that MOTU is fun | 09:50 |
| kahrytan | nxvl, software bugs show up in both environments? | 09:50 |
| nxvl | yup | 09:51 |
| kahrytan | well, vbox hangs on python-gnome2 | 09:52 |
| nxvl | for example, if it fails to install ubuntu-minimal it will fail using real HW or VM | 09:52 |
| nxvl | kahrytan: or that | 09:52 |
| nxvl | :D | 09:52 |
| kahrytan | i plan to setup tiny partition for ibex. I gotta lil hw issue in hardy and wonder if 2.6.26 fixes it. | 09:53 |
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| kahrytan | I know hunger is a developer | 09:59 |
| emgent | morning | 10:01 |
| nxvl | emgent: night :D | 10:01 |
| kahrytan | Aloha, emgent | 10:01 |
| emgent | nxvl: lol night :) | 10:01 |
| nxvl | well, almost morning | 10:01 |
| kahrytan | its 11pm here | 10:01 |
| bheekling | Hello! | 10:02 |
| bheekling | I just have a little question | 10:02 |
| bheekling | Do you guys use -Wl,O1 for building the debs? | 10:02 |
| bheekling | LDFLAGS ie | 10:02 |
| nxvl | kahrytan: 4 am here | 10:03 |
| kahrytan | nxvl, did you stay up all night or wake up early? | 10:03 |
| nxvl | bheekling: if you need to yes, if not, don't | 10:03 |
| nxvl | kahrytan: it's saturday i have just come back home | 10:03 |
| bheekling | nxvl, I just need to know if that's the default setting you guys use -- I believe that's the safest LDFLAG | 10:04 |
| nxvl | bheekling: well it depends on the packager | 10:04 |
| nxvl | bheekling: and the package | 10:04 |
| bheekling | nxvl, so you leave it completely to the discretion of the maintainer? | 10:05 |
| bheekling | With no guidelines? | 10:05 |
| nxvl | bheekling: there are some guidelines | 10:08 |
| nxvl | bheekling: take a look at the debian policy | 10:08 |
| nxvl | but yes, it's completely to the discretion of the maintainer | 10:08 |
| nxvl | and the ackers | 10:08 |
| nxvl | or archive managers | 10:08 |
| bheekling | nxvl, okay, I'll grok the debian policy :) | 10:09 |
| bheekling | Thanks! | 10:09 |
| kahrytan | nxvl, Why does Ubuntu force people to install openoffice? | 10:10 |
| nxvl | kahrytan: you can remove it | 10:11 |
| kahrytan | I always do. Most of it at least. | 10:11 |
| Hobbsee | because most people actually want an office suite. | 10:11 |
| kahrytan | Hobbsee, Just those who need spreedsheet/presentation app | 10:13 |
| Hobbsee | which, last i checked, is still an awful lot of people. | 10:13 |
| kahrytan | If people just need Word, then Abiword better. | 10:14 |
| Hobbsee | yes, but people don't tend to just need word. there are a heck of a lot of spreadsheets around. case closed. | 10:14 |
| nxvl | btw | 10:17 |
| nxvl | people doesn't need word | 10:17 |
| nxvl | and they can't have it on linux | 10:17 |
| nxvl | they need text procesors with is a different thing | 10:18 |
| * Tm_T pokes nxvl | 10:18 | |
| Tm_T | you do need word, Kword ;-P | 10:18 |
| nxvl | kword is still a text procesor | 10:18 |
| Tm_T | it is, but it's more than that ;) | 10:19 |
| nxvl | ok | 10:19 |
| Tm_T | really, you are right, I was just making stupid joke | 10:19 |
| kahrytan | Tm_T, Never used it. I like Abiword. | 10:19 |
| nxvl | it's text procesor on steroids | 10:19 |
| nxvl | but a text procesor | 10:19 |
| Tm_T | yup | 10:19 |
| * nxvl hates abiword | 10:19 | |
| kahrytan | nxvl, why? | 10:20 |
| Tm_T | kahrytan: I like Kate, should I say people doesn't need OpenOffice, just Kate ? | 10:20 |
| nxvl | because it's unstable, ugly and lacks of LOTS of features | 10:20 |
| nxvl | time to sleep | 10:20 |
| nxvl | see you! | 10:20 |
| Tm_T | nxvl: sleep well | 10:20 |
| kahrytan | I always thought Oo Word is ugly. | 10:21 |
| kahrytan | Abiword reminds me of Office 97 | 10:21 |
| wgrant | kahrytan: And OOo reminds me of Office 2000. What's your point? | 10:23 |
| wgrant | (disclaimer: I hate OOo) | 10:23 |
| kahrytan | 84% complete on ibex | 10:24 |
| wgrant | kahrytan: Intrepid Alpha 1, you mean? | 10:24 |
| wgrant | Unless you have servers running Heron or Drake. | 10:24 |
| wgrant | I don't know anybody who does. | 10:24 |
| kahrytan | Im using vbox | 10:25 |
| wgrant | I see the relevance. | 10:25 |
| kahrytan | wgrant, I plan to hdd test. | 10:25 |
| wgrant | I continue to see it. | 10:26 |
| kahrytan | wgrant, to what? | 10:26 |
| wgrant | kahrytan: I'm failing to see how using VirtualBox makes you use an irregular name for Intrepid. | 10:27 |
| kahrytan | wgrant, Ibex is faster to type then Intrepid. | 10:27 |
| kahrytan | I've been trying to remember what I remember you from, wgrant | 10:30 |
| kahrytan | wgrant, didnt i contact you via email about totem-mozilla? | 10:33 |
| wgrant | kahrytan: There was that Firefox plugin finder bug. | 10:34 |
| wgrant | Which you managed to get me to look at and fix. | 10:34 |
| kahrytan | Thats why i remember you | 10:34 |
| wgrant | I would hope so. | 10:35 |
| kahrytan | INtrepid installed just find | 10:36 |
| kahrytan | fine* | 10:36 |
| kahrytan | wgrant, Whats with people and dark color themes? | 10:40 |
| wgrant | kahrytan: It's the new thing, I guess. Vista does it, so we must. | 10:41 |
| wgrant | I used one for a while last year, and now again since Intrepid has one... | 10:41 |
| kahrytan | wgrant, uh. Vista doesnt. | 10:41 |
| * Hobbsee requests all vista talk heads to #ubuntu-offtopic. | 10:41 | |
| kahrytan | Vista uses light blue color by default | 10:42 |
| wgrant | The taskbar is black, no? | 10:42 |
| wgrant | I've not seen blue in Vista, other than the background. | 10:42 |
| kahrytan | wgrant, if you count taskbar then you have to remember XP | 10:42 |
| wgrant | Which was blue, like the rest of it. | 10:42 |
| Hobbsee | second warning. | 10:43 |
| * wgrant drops Windows ME on Hobbsee | 10:43 | |
| wgrant | Or is it Me? I forget. | 10:43 |
| kahrytan | wgrant, There is new proposal in forums for Intrepid. It looks better | 10:43 |
| kahrytan | I do know onething, Icons and NewHuman dont go together | 10:45 |
| wgrant | kahrytan: The Human iconset was meant to be replaced for Hardy, so I presume it will be for Intrepid. | 10:46 |
| kahrytan | wgrant, I didnt want to say it but .. please do. | 10:46 |
| wgrant | Do what? | 10:47 |
| kahrytan | change human icons | 10:47 |
| * wgrant is a mere (primarily security) MOTU. | 10:47 | |
| kahrytan | wgrant, Human look to Elementary icon theme | 10:48 |
| wgrant | The most desktopy thing I've done is fixing your bug. | 10:48 |
| kahrytan | wgrant, Why did you fix that bug? | 10:50 |
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| kahrytan | There is so many people on freenode who dont realize that getting cloak is easy as 1-2-3 | 10:56 |
| wgrant | kahrytan: Because not many bugs unfixably destroy the packaging system. | 10:57 |
| kahrytan | wgrant, which that bug did | 10:57 |
| wgrant | kahrytan: Correct. | 10:58 |
| wgrant | So it was in everyone's interests to get it fixed ASAP, and I felt it to be within my grasp. | 10:59 |
| kahrytan | wgrant, you ever figure out how to fix effected people? | 10:59 |
| cjwatson | kahrytan: don't confuse not being interested in a cloak with not knowing how to get a cloak | 11:07 |
| * cjwatson for one is not interested | 11:07 | |
| kahrytan | cjwatson, my bad. | 11:08 |
| kahrytan | cjwatson, you work on the installer? | 11:09 |
| Hobbsee | kahrytan: no, evand does, like i told you yesterday (or was it the day before?) | 11:09 |
| Hobbsee | although he does some work on it | 11:09 |
| kahrytan | yesterday.. darn. i forgot. | 11:10 |
| cjwatson | I do too, yes | 11:14 |
| cjwatson | kahrytan: ^- | 11:15 |
| kahrytan | cjwatson, I figured you might do some work.. hence the reason for that channel | 11:16 |
| cjwatson | less so of late, but will hopefully increase again later this cycle | 11:19 |
| * cjwatson -> out | 11:21 | |
| aldolat | Hi to all... I was updating my freshly-installed Hardy Heron when I received this alert: http://www.aldolat.it/download/tmp/screenshot3.png | 11:48 |
| aldolat | What do you think? | 11:49 |
| kahrytan | aldolat, goto #ubuntu | 12:06 |
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| chrisj | Is there some general channel for application developers? | 13:15 |
| ogra | siretart, around ? | 13:15 |
| ogra | siretart, seems you uploaded libopenal-dev, its missing the .la file which breaks rss-xgl builds (http://launchpadlibrarian.net/15646475/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-i386.rss-glx_0.8.1-10ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz) | 13:17 |
| * Hobbsee scratches head. | 13:31 | |
| Hobbsee | come on apt, behave! | 13:31 |
| Tm_T | Hobbsee: scratch also trunk and branches | 13:32 |
| fta | anyone could try to reproduce bug 243717 please ? | 13:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 243717 in grep "case sensitive grep broken with UTF8 in intrepid, breaking scripts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/243717 | 13:50 |
| Hobbsee | whoa! new artwork! | 13:52 |
| ion_ | You mean the painful Gtk theme? :-) | 13:53 |
| Hobbsee | yeah... | 13:53 |
| Hobbsee | all i can say is, "it'll stop people complaining about the orange" | 13:53 |
| * ogra really likes it | 13:54 | |
| ion_ | This seems to be a normal phase in the development versions of Ubuntu: a painful, experimantal new theme is uploaded, everyone complains, it’s reverted or fixed. ;-) | 13:54 |
| Hobbsee | ogra: it seems that only parts are actually in the new colours - do you get that? | 13:54 |
| siretart | ogra: please file a bug and assign it to me, I'll get to it either this weekend or early next week | 13:55 |
| ogra | i dont run intrepid, i only watched kwwii developing the new theme | 13:55 |
| Hobbsee | ogra: i'm getting the whole "part of the desktop is dark and brown, yet the other part is white and grey" thing. | 13:55 |
| ogra | siretart, fine with me, rss-glx isnt critical, but i dont know what else might break ... | 13:56 |
| ogra | Hobbsee, yeah, sounds like not all apps are updated yet etc .... there are some app specific fixes needed where things like nautilus dont respect a new background color or firefox shows ll the pulldown links in the input matching in green text | 13:57 |
| Hobbsee | ogra: yeah, i guess konversation, firefox, and thunderbird arent' good testing apps | 13:58 |
| Hobbsee | ooh, i see. | 13:58 |
| Hobbsee | gedit shows up better. | 13:58 |
| wgrant | Hobbsee: Restart some apps. | 13:58 |
| wgrant | Hobbsee: All of mine have been dark for a few days, but I needed to restart some. | 13:59 |
| ogra | siretart, bug 243719 is yours :) | 14:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 243719 in openal "libopenal-dev is missing the .la file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/243719 | 14:00 |
| ion_ | The biggest problem i had was most of the webpages being really bright compared to the theme. The second biggest was that i just prefer to read black text on a light grey background. | 14:00 |
| wgrant | ion_: Then change to the light version of the theme. | 14:00 |
| ion_ | I did. | 14:00 |
| Hobbsee | ion_: ++ | 14:00 |
| wgrant | I quite like it, as it means my dark terminals blend in. | 14:00 |
| ion_ | And since most users will, perhaps it should be the default. ;-) | 14:00 |
| wgrant | It is a bit of a default change. I know a lot of people who run dark themes anyway, but it's probably not a good sample. | 14:01 |
| Hobbsee | wgrant: yeah, the terminals look very nice. | 14:03 |
| Hobbsee | except for the fact that it's partly translucent, and there's lots of text behind said terminal. | 14:03 |
| ion_ | Ouch | 14:03 |
| wgrant | Hobbsee: The actual terminal bit isn't transparent, right? | 14:04 |
| wgrant | (unless you've told it to be...) | 14:04 |
| Hobbsee | wgrant: no, just the lighter colour around it | 14:04 |
| Hobbsee | where the file menu is, and such | 14:04 |
| wgrant | The widgets are meant to be transparent - gnome-terminal looks to set them to be RGBA, and this Murrine supports translucency. | 14:04 |
| wgrant | It looks very good when you have blur on, but that's unusable on Intel chips. | 14:05 |
| Hobbsee | hmm. no fire. | 14:06 |
| Hobbsee | ah, fire! | 14:09 |
| _max_ | anyone happen to be an ace on GPT partition table and how ubuntu seems to use it differently from Debian ? | 14:10 |
| Chipzz | ogra: that's not a bug, that's a feature ;) | 14:18 |
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| chrisj | Has the murrine with translucency support been released? | 15:56 |
| costi | hi all | 16:14 |
| costi | is my last prject appropriate for multiverse?: | 16:14 |
| costi | https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/gooload | 16:14 |
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| fbond | Hi, I may file a bug, but I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something. In Hardy, /etc/acpi/power.sh enables and disables laptop mode where appropriate, but also mucks around with hdparm -B and -S itself, even though laptop mode manages those things. Is this a bug? | 18:10 |
| fbond | Interestingly, when going on battery, it overrides laptop mode's settings, but when going on AC, laptop mode takes precedence... | 18:11 |
| fbond | (And -B 1 seems a bit excessive to me...) | 18:12 |
| Yud_Zroc | what programming languages will work with all operating systems (like making a program for ubuntu windows and mac) | 18:16 |
| selckin | java | 18:17 |
| Yud_Zroc | what about c++ | 18:17 |
| hippu | it works too | 18:18 |
| Yud_Zroc | ok | 18:18 |
| ScottK | Perl and Python as well. | 18:18 |
| Yud_Zroc | cause my school teached c++ and i want to join the comunity in destroying windows (evil smirks) | 18:18 |
| ScottK | It's probably easiest to write cross-platform code in Perl and Python. | 18:19 |
| Yud_Zroc | is c++ easy | 18:19 |
| jpds | Yud_Zroc: It's like everything, takes time and practise. | 18:20 |
| Yud_Zroc | i mean for customizability | 18:21 |
| Yud_Zroc | can anyone 1 on 1 with me about compiling code | 18:23 |
| Yud_Zroc | its like greek to me :( | 18:23 |
| jpds | !build-essential > Yud_Zroc | 18:25 |
| ubottu | Yud_Zroc, please see my private message | 18:25 |
| Yud_Zroc | i did | 18:27 |
| Yud_Zroc | jpds whats that supposed to mean :( | 18:27 |
| jpds | Yud_Zroc: See the link it gave you. | 18:27 |
| Yud_Zroc | ya | 18:28 |
| fbond | Any ACPI-aware developers have a second to consider my question (above)? | 18:29 |
| ScottK | !weekend | fbond | 18:31 |
| ubottu | fbond: It's a weekend. Often on weekends, the paid developers, and a lot of the community, may not be around to answer your question. Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would, or try again during the working week. | 18:31 |
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| Yud_Zroc | ok how about some jokes then to keep pople buzy :) | 18:32 |
| jussi01 | no | 18:34 |
| jussi01 | we are busy enough as it is | 18:34 |
| Yud_Zroc | ok | 18:34 |
| \sh | hmm..who can post on the fridge? | 18:48 |
| jpds | \sh: I'd try #ubuntu-news | 18:50 |
| jpds | \sh: But I think the list is: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-fridge | 18:51 |
| Dekans | hello all | 19:55 |
| Dekans | how can I suggest a new app to integrate in next release ? | 19:56 |
| orbisvicis | was (x)vnc updated recently | 21:09 |
| sistpoty | hm... can anoyne enlighten me, why apt bails out for perl, even if there's a replaces against libarchive-tar-perl? (cf. bug #235454) | 21:26 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 235454 in perl "perl 5.10 file conflict with libarchive-tar-perl" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/235454 | 21:26 |
| sistpoty | I mean, shouldn't it just replace /usr/bin/ptar instead of saying there's a conflict? | 21:27 |
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