[00:13] hi all [00:13] http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/intrepid/cryptsetup [00:13] here the diff (and probably other links ) 404 [00:13] and the binary download page ony has 2-3 proper link, the others 404 [00:14] Any idea? [00:14] How can i get that src? [00:19] MetaMorfoziS: probably packages.u.c. wasn't synced yet... you might try https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup [00:19] MetaMorfoziS: (and in case you have a patch or s.th. you could also ask siretart) ;) [00:21] thank you [00:21] np [00:21] cool [00:23] no, i haven't got any patch [00:23] i jsut want to get it work better [00:23] :) [00:23] heh [00:23] so i try to build it (I'm on hardy) [00:23] but that version is khm...:) [00:23] Hallo [00:23] so thats why:) [00:23] hy:) [00:24] is there an approved way to install VBox in hardy? [00:24] daskreech: you mean virtualbox or s.th. else? [00:24] daskreech > first, this isn't the better place [00:24] anyways there are debs for ubuntu [00:24] on vbox's site [00:25] Virtual box sorry [00:25] MetaMorfoziS: Not for the ose [00:25] Open source edition. [00:25] daskreech: s.th. like apt-get install virtualbox-ose ;) [00:25] will that ever be supplied for hardy by Ubuntu ? [00:26] daskreech: it should be there imo [00:26] 1.6 ? [00:26] Oh sorry should have mentioned 1.6 ;) [00:27] you can request a backport [00:27] but as MetaMorfoziS said, this isn't the best place for that kind of questions... [00:27] motu ? [00:28] #ubuntu? [00:29] That's support isn't it not packaging? [00:30] yes, #ubuntu-motu would be the right place [00:30] thanks!! [00:30] http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads [00:30] but this is why don't enough for you? [00:30] i don't udnerstand what is the problem with it... [00:30] download, select ubuntu and that's all [00:30] MetaMorfoziS: I'd prefer the open source edition is all [00:31] but this is the opensource edition imho [00:31] I'll do that if I need to but just exploring [00:31] no the have a page on the wiki saying there is a difference [00:31] thanks though [00:34] I'm googling for it (the problem is don'T know what exactly i need diff or patch) but if somebody knows, please tell me how can i apply something.diff.gz [00:34] that contains a directory tree with a lot of files [00:34] so some batch-patch way needed:) === SEJeff is now known as SEJeff_away === SEJeff_away is now known as SEJeff_work [00:35] zcat ../something.diff.gz | patch -p1 [00:35] sejeff: Thanks for the information! [00:38] pochu > thanks, but i don't exactly understand what happened. I have extracted the cryptsetup orig source [00:38] and did what you said [00:38] then it created a new dir named debian [00:38] MetaMorfoziS: do that inside cryptsetup-*/ [00:39] oh! okay, i try again [00:39] but it again created a debian folder [00:39] and didn't touched any other files [00:40] i get the stuffs from here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/cryptsetup/2:1.0.6-2ubuntu7 [00:41] MetaMorfoziS: if you have the .orig.tar.gz, .diff.gz and .dsc, it's easier to 'dpkg-source -x *.dsc' [00:42] hmm i try that too [00:44] thanks === edson is now known as ecanto [00:59] night. === |Baby| is now known as Baby [01:41] cody-somerville: well, xcfe4-dict is uninstallable on amd64 still which breaks the install on that arch, but otherwise the install went clean; I assume you're testing i386? [01:44] slangasek, yup [01:46] slangasek, can you manually drop xfce4-dict for this build to fix amd64? [01:47] cody-somerville: something has to be fixed to not try to install it, surely? [01:48] slangasek, I'm pretty sure it is just seeded. One second. [01:48] cody-somerville: well, the installer didn't like that it was uninstallable; I assume it wouldn't like that it's removed from the image either [01:51] fwiw, I've just uploaded the merge of debhelper that will make xfce4-dict buildable again [01:55] cody-somerville: I have to run out right now anyway, and by the time I get back debhelper should be built, so I'll just plan to fix the xfce4-dict installability that way [01:55] slangasek, awesome :) [01:57] cody-somerville: please test the current i386 build all the same, because if there are any other issues we'll need to make sure they get fixed in the same pass [01:57] * cody-somerville nods. [01:57] Working on it right now. [02:03] slangasek: before DIF, is there some way to get a list of all the FTBFS auto-sync'd packages in the archive without screen-scraping the build logs? (for me to find hardening option fall-out) [02:04] kees: http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs might be helpful. [02:04] That will list all FTBFSes. [02:04] And I could probably whip up one with just syncs in a couple of minutes. [02:05] kees: And didn't we pass DIF a couple of days back? [02:06] wgrant: oh, whoops, heh, it was yesterday. [02:08] wgrant: cool. how is that website generated, out of curiosity? [02:10] kees: It scrapes LP failed build lists, and works out which of those are for the latest SPR. [02:11] (the source should be linked down the bottom, as long as I haven't restricted my ~ too much...) [02:12] cool, cool. [02:13] do you download the logfiles? [02:13] No, but they're all directly linked there, and it would be easy enough to. [02:13] right, I was just curious if there was a single blob or rsync I could do. :) [02:14] I'll use this to pull all the fail logs and look for hardening option failures. [02:15] If you want, I'll alter it to grab any logs it doesn't already have each time it runs. Probably useful for other things too. [02:20] it might be useful. actually... is that code published anywhere? I could add a set of key phrases to look for, and then add a flag for "possible hardneing option failure" or something like that. [02:20] wait, actually, never mind [02:20] I'm going to need to pull all the build log to search for the -Wformat warnings (which don't cause build failures) anyway. [02:21] kees: The code is all linked down the bottom of that page. [02:22] oh! hah, so it it. I didn't notice the little 'source' link. ;) [02:26] kees: around? [02:26] nxvl: hola [02:28] * kees is in suspense [02:28] :p [02:28] kees: sorry, i was in other tab [02:28] kees: i hvae uploaded some other versions of augeas (same version with fixes) [02:28] hehe, no problem:) [02:28] also i replied to your mail [02:29] nxvl: everything in my first email was addressed? [02:29] wgrant : can you share the link once more (came in late) .. am also thinking of building a 'wrapper' on top of LP [02:29] (like a week ago :P) [02:29] kees: yep [02:29] nxvl: \o/ I will go take a look. [02:29] kees: at least i think it is [02:29] you wrote the 2nd man page? [02:29] kees: also some soren and siretart suggestions [02:29] oh no [02:30] that's the only think missing [02:30] i'm waiting for upstream to do it (they say they will we this weekend on the worst scenario) [02:30] okay, cool. [02:30] but i haven't check [02:30] i have had a busy week [02:32] nxvl: with augeus, or generally? [02:32] kees: i replied to your mail [02:33] nxvl: okay, thanks [02:33] like a week ago [02:33] no, i have had a busy week at work [02:33] i was in an internal course [02:33] * kees nods [02:33] also i'm on the deadline of univerity works [02:33] and examsn [02:33] so have been busy [02:33] and also giving augeas some time daily [02:34] (you can tell by the daily uploads on revu :D) [02:34] :) [02:34] do you have the revu url handy? [02:34] yep [02:34] http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=augeas [02:35] btw [02:36] how did you checked the rpath issue? i can make lintian tell me anything [02:36] just the man page missing thing [02:36] nxvl: if you've got a few minutes, go ahead and file the ITP in Debian for it, that was on my list too. [02:36] kees: i have [02:36] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=487896 [02:36] Debian bug 487896 in wnpp "ITP: augeas -- A library for programmatically editing configuration files" [Wishlist,Open] [02:36] it's on the new debian version [02:36] ah! okay, sorry, I didn't see it in the revu changelog, no worries [02:37] (on mentors) [02:37] cool [02:37] http://mentors.debian.net/cgi-bin/sponsor-pkglist?action=details;package=augeas [02:37] mentors doesn't have a browseable expanded directory, so I was poking at revu for the moemnt. ;) [02:37] yep [02:37] i know taht [02:37] :D [02:37] also it doesn't have the nice diff's [02:37] :D [02:56] nxvl: do you have lintian installed when you do builds? I'm still seeing augtool needing rpath fixes (says lintian) [03:03] kees: I don't know of a good way to identify those packages as a class, no [03:04] cody-somerville: any news on the i386 install test? [03:04] slangasek, so far so good [03:05] ok [03:05] xfce4-dict is building now on amd64 [03:05] splendid. [03:18] 000 [03:19] gah, cat. [03:19] useless keypress of cat [03:38] slangasek, appears good [03:52] cody-somerville: please document this in the ISO tracker [03:52] oh, you did alerady :) [03:54] cody-somerville: ok, so xfce4-dict amd64 missed this publishing run, which means I get to wait another hour before I can have a fixed amd64 CD, and then after that we still need rsyncing and testing of both architectures [03:54] cody-somerville: what do you think about pushing out the existing i386 build, and then I can test amd64 a little bit later and push out the updated image if it looks ok? [03:56] (I would in that case go ahead with announcing the alpha before the amd64 build is up, as well) [04:02] kees: That easteregg is unfortunately buggy in Compiz :( [04:05] wgrant: hehe, yeah, I'd noticed that too. :P [04:15] cody-somerville: ok, making an executive decision to do the thing I said above; I'll be available for kicking in an hour or two if you disagree :) === slangasek changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: intrepid alpha-1 released, archive open | frozen: Ubuntu 8.04.1 | Development of Ubuntu (not support, not application development on Ubuntu) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper/feisty/gutsy/hardy, #ubuntu+1 for intrepid | #ubuntu-motu for getting involved in development | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs [05:59] calc: still hammering away at OOo? [06:00] slangasek, ok. [06:00] cody-somerville: ah, still up? :) [06:01] publisher is taking tooo looooong, I'm still waiting for xfce4-dict/amd64 to be out [06:01] slangasek, aye. I was at the other computer doing dirty, proprietary work stuff :( [06:01] heh :) [06:02] * cody-somerville doesn't understand the hyper about Macs - he hates the one has to use for his current project at work. [06:07] slangasek: uploading it now [06:07] slangasek: will take an hour or so [06:14] i'm not at home so once it finishes uploading to chinstrap i have to dput from there [06:14] i'll be heading home soon, and can do it when i get there [06:14] * calc bbl [07:21] slangasek: uploaded to the queue [07:21] thanks [07:22] slangasek: the code has already been tested on amd64/i386/lpia for building at least [07:22] slangasek: i uploaded a ppa of it thursday night [07:22] i just upped the version number and added the changelog entry [07:23] my dad's new Core2Quad Q9300 (2.5GHz) uses less power (at idle anyway) than his old athlon xp 1800 [07:24] ~ 90W at the wall vs ~ 140W [07:30] * calc is now headed to bed, bbl [07:31] slangasek: oh yea assuming this one passes inspection it will need to be copied into intrepid as well [07:31] ok [07:31] g'night then [07:31] have fun :) [08:20] What kernel is in ibex? [08:25] kahrytan: At the moment, Intrepid has the same kernel as Hardy. It's planned to be 2.6.26. [08:26] StevenK: actually, we're already at 2.6.26(pre) in intrepid [08:26] not on lpia, mind [08:26] Ah. [08:26] * StevenK is out of date. [08:26] StevenK: I think even linux-meta is 2.6.26 now. [08:29] I see that. [08:29] slangasek, whats in first alpha? [08:29] 2.6.26pre. [08:29] basicly, beta kernel [08:30] mentioned in the technical overview page. [08:30] RC5 oops [08:30] ill put in vbox [09:40] Quiet place [09:40] !weekend [09:40] It's a weekend. Often on weekends, the paid developers, and a lot of the community, may not be around to answer your question. Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would, or try again during the working week. [09:41] oh hello heser [09:41] geser [09:43] geser, are you developer? [09:43] I'm a MOTU [09:43] Busy person eh [09:44] yes, as universe isn't small [09:45] universe rocks [09:47] Does vbox/vmware testing even matter to ubuntu? [09:47] yep [09:47] Mattered most for Hardy though [09:47] (if you mean test alphas/betas using vbox/vmware) [09:48] nxvl, why does it matter? [09:50] because we don't care only for hw testing, also for procedure/packages/instalation [09:50] nxvl: I sense a spin-off of a spin-off in the making. "I love the whole universe // and all its unpacked source " === enrico_ is now known as enrico [09:50] which are hw independt [09:50] slangasek: [09:50] slangasek: :D [09:50] slangasek: is just that MOTU is fun [09:50] nxvl, software bugs show up in both environments? [09:51] yup [09:52] well, vbox hangs on python-gnome2 [09:52] for example, if it fails to install ubuntu-minimal it will fail using real HW or VM [09:52] kahrytan: or that [09:52] :D [09:53] i plan to setup tiny partition for ibex. I gotta lil hw issue in hardy and wonder if 2.6.26 fixes it. === hunger_t is now known as hunger [09:59] I know hunger is a developer [10:01] morning [10:01] emgent: night :D [10:01] Aloha, emgent [10:01] nxvl: lol night :) [10:01] well, almost morning [10:01] its 11pm here [10:02] Hello! [10:02] I just have a little question [10:02] Do you guys use -Wl,O1 for building the debs? [10:02] LDFLAGS ie [10:03] kahrytan: 4 am here [10:03] nxvl, did you stay up all night or wake up early? [10:03] bheekling: if you need to yes, if not, don't [10:03] kahrytan: it's saturday i have just come back home [10:04] nxvl, I just need to know if that's the default setting you guys use -- I believe that's the safest LDFLAG [10:04] bheekling: well it depends on the packager [10:04] bheekling: and the package [10:05] nxvl, so you leave it completely to the discretion of the maintainer? [10:05] With no guidelines? [10:08] bheekling: there are some guidelines [10:08] bheekling: take a look at the debian policy [10:08] but yes, it's completely to the discretion of the maintainer [10:08] and the ackers [10:08] or archive managers [10:09] nxvl, okay, I'll grok the debian policy :) [10:09] Thanks! [10:10] nxvl, Why does Ubuntu force people to install openoffice? [10:11] kahrytan: you can remove it [10:11] I always do. Most of it at least. [10:11] because most people actually want an office suite. [10:13] Hobbsee, Just those who need spreedsheet/presentation app [10:13] which, last i checked, is still an awful lot of people. [10:14] If people just need Word, then Abiword better. [10:14] yes, but people don't tend to just need word. there are a heck of a lot of spreadsheets around. case closed. [10:17] btw [10:17] people doesn't need word [10:17] and they can't have it on linux [10:18] they need text procesors with is a different thing [10:18] * Tm_T pokes nxvl [10:18] you do need word, Kword ;-P [10:18] kword is still a text procesor [10:19] it is, but it's more than that ;) [10:19] ok [10:19] really, you are right, I was just making stupid joke [10:19] Tm_T, Never used it. I like Abiword. [10:19] it's text procesor on steroids [10:19] but a text procesor [10:19] yup [10:19] * nxvl hates abiword [10:20] nxvl, why? [10:20] kahrytan: I like Kate, should I say people doesn't need OpenOffice, just Kate ? [10:20] because it's unstable, ugly and lacks of LOTS of features [10:20] time to sleep [10:20] see you! [10:20] nxvl: sleep well [10:21] I always thought Oo Word is ugly. [10:21] Abiword reminds me of Office 97 [10:23] kahrytan: And OOo reminds me of Office 2000. What's your point? [10:23] (disclaimer: I hate OOo) [10:24] 84% complete on ibex [10:24] kahrytan: Intrepid Alpha 1, you mean? [10:24] Unless you have servers running Heron or Drake. [10:24] I don't know anybody who does. [10:25] Im using vbox [10:25] I see the relevance. [10:25] wgrant, I plan to hdd test. [10:26] I continue to see it. [10:26] wgrant, to what? [10:27] kahrytan: I'm failing to see how using VirtualBox makes you use an irregular name for Intrepid. [10:27] wgrant, Ibex is faster to type then Intrepid. [10:30] I've been trying to remember what I remember you from, wgrant [10:33] wgrant, didnt i contact you via email about totem-mozilla? [10:34] kahrytan: There was that Firefox plugin finder bug. [10:34] Which you managed to get me to look at and fix. [10:34] Thats why i remember you [10:35] I would hope so. [10:36] INtrepid installed just find [10:36] fine* [10:40] wgrant, Whats with people and dark color themes? [10:41] kahrytan: It's the new thing, I guess. Vista does it, so we must. [10:41] I used one for a while last year, and now again since Intrepid has one... [10:41] wgrant, uh. Vista doesnt. [10:41] * Hobbsee requests all vista talk heads to #ubuntu-offtopic. [10:42] Vista uses light blue color by default [10:42] The taskbar is black, no? [10:42] I've not seen blue in Vista, other than the background. [10:42] wgrant, if you count taskbar then you have to remember XP [10:42] Which was blue, like the rest of it. [10:43] second warning. [10:43] * wgrant drops Windows ME on Hobbsee [10:43] Or is it Me? I forget. [10:43] wgrant, There is new proposal in forums for Intrepid. It looks better [10:45] I do know onething, Icons and NewHuman dont go together [10:46] kahrytan: The Human iconset was meant to be replaced for Hardy, so I presume it will be for Intrepid. [10:46] wgrant, I didnt want to say it but .. please do. [10:47] Do what? [10:47] change human icons [10:47] * wgrant is a mere (primarily security) MOTU. [10:48] wgrant, Human look to Elementary icon theme [10:48] The most desktopy thing I've done is fixing your bug. [10:50] wgrant, Why did you fix that bug? === doko_ is now known as doko [10:56] There is so many people on freenode who dont realize that getting cloak is easy as 1-2-3 [10:57] kahrytan: Because not many bugs unfixably destroy the packaging system. [10:57] wgrant, which that bug did [10:58] kahrytan: Correct. [10:59] So it was in everyone's interests to get it fixed ASAP, and I felt it to be within my grasp. [10:59] wgrant, you ever figure out how to fix effected people? [11:07] kahrytan: don't confuse not being interested in a cloak with not knowing how to get a cloak [11:07] * cjwatson for one is not interested [11:08] cjwatson, my bad. [11:09] cjwatson, you work on the installer? [11:09] kahrytan: no, evand does, like i told you yesterday (or was it the day before?) [11:09] although he does some work on it [11:10] yesterday.. darn. i forgot. [11:14] I do too, yes [11:15] kahrytan: ^- [11:16] cjwatson, I figured you might do some work.. hence the reason for that channel [11:19] less so of late, but will hopefully increase again later this cycle [11:21] * cjwatson -> out [11:48] Hi to all... I was updating my freshly-installed Hardy Heron when I received this alert: http://www.aldolat.it/download/tmp/screenshot3.png [11:49] What do you think? [12:06] aldolat, goto #ubuntu === fta_ is now known as fta === LucidFox is now known as LuciusFox === LuciusFox is now known as LucidFox [13:15] Is there some general channel for application developers? [13:15] siretart, around ? [13:17] siretart, seems you uploaded libopenal-dev, its missing the .la file which breaks rss-xgl builds (http://launchpadlibrarian.net/15646475/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-i386.rss-glx_0.8.1-10ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz) [13:31] * Hobbsee scratches head. [13:31] come on apt, behave! [13:32] Hobbsee: scratch also trunk and branches [13:50] anyone could try to reproduce bug 243717 please ? [13:50] Launchpad bug 243717 in grep "case sensitive grep broken with UTF8 in intrepid, breaking scripts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/243717 [13:52] whoa! new artwork! [13:53] You mean the painful Gtk theme? :-) [13:53] yeah... [13:53] all i can say is, "it'll stop people complaining about the orange" [13:54] * ogra really likes it [13:54] This seems to be a normal phase in the development versions of Ubuntu: a painful, experimantal new theme is uploaded, everyone complains, it’s reverted or fixed. ;-) [13:54] ogra: it seems that only parts are actually in the new colours - do you get that? [13:55] ogra: please file a bug and assign it to me, I'll get to it either this weekend or early next week [13:55] i dont run intrepid, i only watched kwwii developing the new theme [13:55] ogra: i'm getting the whole "part of the desktop is dark and brown, yet the other part is white and grey" thing. [13:56] siretart, fine with me, rss-glx isnt critical, but i dont know what else might break ... [13:57] Hobbsee, yeah, sounds like not all apps are updated yet etc .... there are some app specific fixes needed where things like nautilus dont respect a new background color or firefox shows ll the pulldown links in the input matching in green text [13:58] ogra: yeah, i guess konversation, firefox, and thunderbird arent' good testing apps [13:58] ooh, i see. [13:58] gedit shows up better. [13:58] Hobbsee: Restart some apps. [13:59] Hobbsee: All of mine have been dark for a few days, but I needed to restart some. [14:00] siretart, bug 243719 is yours :) [14:00] Launchpad bug 243719 in openal "libopenal-dev is missing the .la file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/243719 [14:00] The biggest problem i had was most of the webpages being really bright compared to the theme. The second biggest was that i just prefer to read black text on a light grey background. [14:00] ion_: Then change to the light version of the theme. [14:00] I did. [14:00] ion_: ++ [14:00] I quite like it, as it means my dark terminals blend in. [14:00] And since most users will, perhaps it should be the default. ;-) [14:01] It is a bit of a default change. I know a lot of people who run dark themes anyway, but it's probably not a good sample. [14:03] wgrant: yeah, the terminals look very nice. [14:03] except for the fact that it's partly translucent, and there's lots of text behind said terminal. [14:03] Ouch [14:04] Hobbsee: The actual terminal bit isn't transparent, right? [14:04] (unless you've told it to be...) [14:04] wgrant: no, just the lighter colour around it [14:04] where the file menu is, and such [14:04] The widgets are meant to be transparent - gnome-terminal looks to set them to be RGBA, and this Murrine supports translucency. [14:05] It looks very good when you have blur on, but that's unusable on Intel chips. [14:06] hmm. no fire. [14:09] ah, fire! [14:10] <_max_> anyone happen to be an ace on GPT partition table and how ubuntu seems to use it differently from Debian ? [14:18] ogra: that's not a bug, that's a feature ;) === effie is now known as effie_jayx === greeneggsnospam is now known as jsgotangco [15:56] Has the murrine with translucency support been released? [16:14] hi all [16:14] is my last prject appropriate for multiverse?: [16:14] https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/gooload === LucidFox__ is now known as LucidFox === asac_ is now known as asac [18:10] Hi, I may file a bug, but I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something. In Hardy, /etc/acpi/power.sh enables and disables laptop mode where appropriate, but also mucks around with hdparm -B and -S itself, even though laptop mode manages those things. Is this a bug? [18:11] Interestingly, when going on battery, it overrides laptop mode's settings, but when going on AC, laptop mode takes precedence... [18:12] (And -B 1 seems a bit excessive to me...) [18:16]