[00:00] <zaapiel> ubuntu-desktop is what i want to cnvert xubuntu into ubuntu correct?
[00:00] <Flannel> zaapiel: Yep
[00:00] <zaapiel> convert*
[00:00] <Eyemean> Flannel, does that mean it will be slighly slower aswell?
[00:00] <zaapiel> k ty
[00:00] <Maps> amenado - if I do `lpadmin -h nas -p lp` I get conenction refused.. if I'm logged into "nas" how can I see the socket or prot ot whatever?
[00:00] <Flannel> Eyemean: Its only slower when it comes to disk access.  And even then, only slightly.
[00:00] <solexious> unop, got it, thank you
[00:00] <unop> solexious, whats the username you are using to connect to this share? it isn't administrator is it?
[00:00] <gregbrady> Ok, well, thanks for listening....Maybe I'll try later.
[00:00] <Magicdead> RonLut: ah and if it is indeed compiz, then we should be able to corner the problem in fast and finish the little sucker off ;)
[00:00] <unop> solexious, cool
[00:01] <maccam94> kevinm_: password protect GRUB, lock your case, remove everything but the HD from boot order, password protect the bios
[00:01] <homie> can anyone help me set the default applicatin for an ipod?
[00:01] <Flannel> kevinm_: And then unplug it from the wall
[00:01] <homie> i don't like it opening in rhythmbox
[00:01] <Eyemean> Flannel, thanks i might just do that then, because for some reson ubuntu is acting funny, so installtion time should be alot faster if installed in windows
[00:01] <kevinm_> maccam94: im using a thinkpad that has features like bios password, could i keep the other boot devices or is a bios password not secure?
[00:02] <RonLut> Magicdead: :\ my system stopped again.... I don't know if it's the same problem but I guess so....
[00:02] <unop> kevinm_, if someone has physical access to a machine, there really is nothing you can do
[00:02] <Eyemean> Flannel,  is there an easy way to uninstall ubuntu?
[00:02] <jack-desktop> when i log in, my window manager doesn't load and i have to click the fusion icon and select 'reload window manager', how can i fix this?
[00:02] <irc-tester> is there a way to force a usb-serial device to use a specific /dev/ttyUSBx port?  For example, /dev/ttyUSB3 instead of the lowest available port?
[00:02] <Flannel> Eyemean: sure, delete the partitions
[00:03] <mattbradshaw> maccam94: you're probably right... not using the restricted hardware manager is probably the cause (attribute it to my ubuntu-n00bness... i'm an rhel/fedora guy by training)
[00:03] <mattbradshaw> maccam94: problem is
[00:03] <maccam94> kevinm_: well you don't want other devices to be before the HD in the boot order, because then someone can boot a livecd and get at your hard drive
[00:03] <mattbradshaw> maccam94: i can't seemingly get to that
[00:03] <kevinm_> unop: really? bios password is beatable? and then removing all kernal boots but my main one and password protecting grub, all that and still they could gain root
[00:03] <ryan_> using vlc player in buntu 8.04, settings "adjust vlc priority" needs an offset #, what number should i just to delegate highest priority
[00:03] <Magicdead> RonLut: hmm. so if it's not compiz, well. difficult to say. have you tried running it for a while without any program open to check if it's cause by a program?
[00:03] <maccam94> kevinm_: unless you're using an encrypted filesystem
[00:04] <Magicdead> RonLut: other than that it could be anything, from some x-server error to god knows what imo
[00:04] <Flannel> kevinm_: you don't need to remove all the kernel options, thats what the password protection does.
[00:04] <Eyemean> Flannel, what about the sectin at the start where u select operating system u want to use? sorry im new to linux
[00:04] <mattbradshaw> maccam94: doing the dpkg command resulted in nothing... i even removed the fglrx_drv.so a moment ago, it still locks up
[00:04] <kevinm_> maccam94: yea but if the bios password came before the boot deviceses shouldnt i be safe from livecd attack?
[00:04] <RonLut> Magicdead: :\
[00:04] <maccam94> kevinm_: thinkpad bioses are good, but you need to lock the case shut so they can't reset it
[00:04] <mattbradshaw> maccam94: any advice for getting any x to work and then i go the restricted hw mgr route
[00:04] <quentusrex> Hello???
[00:04] <unop> kevinm_, sure, all one has to do is remove the cmos battery for half-an-hour and your BIOS settings are lost - that includes the password you've set
[00:04] <maccam94> mattbradshaw: not dpkg, apt-get
[00:04] <kevinm_> maccam94: good idea
[00:04] <Flannel> Eyemean: You'll want to pop in your windows CD, and fix the MBR, and then once you're done with that you'll boot straight into windows.
[00:04] <RonLut> Magicdead: Ill do some more checking to see if I can recognize the problem source
[00:04] <Flannel> Eyemean: And then after that, just overwrite the ubuntu partitions
[00:04] <m_newton> How do i regester a bot?
[00:05] <kevinm_> unop: i see
[00:05] <maccam94> mattbradshaw: it sounds like you're totally hosing the system. you're mixing manual and automatic package handling in the worst ways
[00:05] <Flannel> m_newton: What?
[00:05] <kevinm_> thanks for the suggestions guys
[00:05] <Magicdead> RonLut: also, have you googled/searched the forums for similar problems? i know it might be hard to find info on this specific topic as it seems to be quite generic, but it's worth a try
[00:05] <Eyemean> does that mean i seelct repair from windows cd? Flannel ?
[00:05] <m_newton> Flannel, well, i want to regester my bot, then give it voice
[00:05] <Flannel> Eyemean: Depending on your version, yeah, repair or fixmbr or whatnot
[00:05] <maccam94> mattbradshaw: i've gotta go eat dinner now, but if installing the drivers through the restricted-hardware-manager doesn't work, reinstall ubuntu and install them through r-hw-m
[00:05] <Flannel> m_newton: Where?
[00:06] <Eyemean> Flannel, xp
[00:06]  * maccam94 is GONE
[00:06] <m_newton> Flannel, my channel...
[00:06] <Eyemean> ok cheers Flannel
[00:06] <Eyemean> Flannel, much appreciated
[00:06] <Flannel> m_newton: You register your bot with nickserv,  /msg nickserv help register, and then voicing is done by you.
[00:06] <gogi> Hello
[00:06] <Flannel> m_newton: and/or with chanserv, if you want to give it privledges.  But this is offtopic in #ubuntu
[00:06] <Maps> amenado - if I do `lpadmin -h nas -p lp` I get conenction refused.. if I run nmap I see port 515/tcp is open.....
[00:06] <quentusrex> Can someone help me with an openssh-server problem with ubuntu gutsy???
[00:07] <m_newton> Flannel, i did, and thanks
[00:07] <gogi> I was hoping someone could help me with a newly installed mythbuntu / grub dual booting problem
[00:07] <FlyingSquirrel31> what is the default image viewer in hardy, is it still gthumb?
[00:07] <to0x> quentusrex explain
[00:07] <unop> FlyingSquirrel31, on the gnome desktop, yes
[00:07] <MatBoy> is someone using egroupware in ubuntu ?
[00:07] <quentusrex> thanks to0x
[00:07] <Vinchenzo28> whats the best prog from .pdf's?
[00:07] <gogi> I just installed mythbuntu, hoping to dual boot with XP. But for some reason when I boot from the hdd and it gets time to load a OS, and hopefully show me the boot menu, the screen just fills up with "grub" over and over again...I had to boot into the LiveCD to get here to ask for help :)
[00:07] <quentusrex> I'm trying to setup my ubuntu gusty server so that I can ssh into it from my desktop without typing a password
[00:07] <unop> Vinchenzo28, you mean, to read pdfs?
[00:07] <Vinchenzo28> unop: yeah
[00:08] <MatBoy> ubuntu server still contains egroupware 1.2 and there already is 1.4 :S
[00:08] <unop> Vinchenzo28, acroread - adobe's acrobat reader
[00:08] <quentusrex> but each time I generate the ssh-keygen -t dsa, and copy it to my remote server. I still get prompted for a password.
[00:08] <Vinchenzo28> unop: ubuntu compatible?
[00:08] <FlyingSquirrel31> ﻿unop: I right click on an image and choose open with image viewer it just thinks for a minute and then does nothing.
[00:08] <unop> Vinchenzo28, there's also evince - both are available on ubuntu, yes
[00:08] <Magicdead> mattbradshaw: uhm, i didn't follow the whole discussion, but did you try installing the driver with envyng, too?
[00:08] <Vinchenzo28> unop: thanks
[00:09] <to0x> quentusrex paste the manipulation you do on pastebin.org
[00:09] <quentusrex> huh?
[00:09] <unop> FlyingSquirrel31, hmm, try setting the default application back to gthumb and trying again -- if that fails, perhaps reinstall gthumb
[00:09] <Ballena> Can some one with basic bash scripting knowledge here help me? :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5276296&postcount=7
[00:09] <m_newton> Flannel, well, i have already regestered... How do i regester it
[00:09] <yessine> hello
[00:09] <Flannel> MatBoy: egroupware is in universe, #ubuntu-motu is the place to go.  However, 1.4 is in Intrepid
[00:09] <unop> FlyingSquirrel31, it might also be likely that gthumb has crashed - you might want to check that too and kill any instances already running.
[00:09] <quentusrex> I just scp the id_dsa.pub file into the remote server username@mydomain.com:/home/username/.ssh/authorized_keys2
[00:09] <mattbradshaw> Magicdead: nope
[00:10] <Flannel> m_newton: once you register, you don't need to do it again.  You need to identify.  /msg nickserv help identify
[00:10] <mattbradshaw> just having trouble uninstalling it now
[00:10] <mattbradshaw> not seeing how to do that even
[00:10] <mattbradshaw> bleh
[00:10] <mattbradshaw> ati is evil
[00:10] <m_newton> Flannel, i am regestered and identified
[00:10] <Flannel> m_newton: then whats the question?
[00:10] <m_newton> Flannel, i want to register and identify my bot
[00:10] <Jordan_U> Ballena, You can check the number of arguments with $#
[00:10] <FlyingSquirrel31> ﻿unop: Thanks, that works. I just wasn't sure if perhaps gthumb was supposed to have been replaced with something else.
[00:11] <Magicdead> mattbradshaw: well, it's sort of a long shot, but the EnvyNG script always did the trick for me when i had display driver probs, just install the package and run envyng
[00:11] <thunder_storm> hello everybody
[00:11] <Flannel> m_newton: right, register it just like you would any other nick.  And as for automatic identification, that'll depend on the bot
[00:11] <to0x> quentusrex: there is no "2" at the end of the authorized_keys file
[00:11] <unop> FlyingSquirrel31, cool
[00:11] <quentusrex> ok, I'll try to change that
[00:11] <Starnestommy> m_newton: you may also need to check your email for account verification instructions
[00:11] <m_newton> Flannel, /msg nickserv REGISTER <password> <email>
[00:12] <m_newton> Flannel, that will regester me... my nick is diffrent from my bot
[00:12] <Magicdead> mattbradshaw: it has several options, like automatically installing it, manually installing it, uninstalling drivers and so on
[00:12] <tareks> hi hopefully this'll work now
[00:12] <Flannel> m_newton: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:12] <m_newton> hello Starnestommy
[00:12] <to0x> quentusrex: and keep in mind that the passphrase for the key would be empty
[00:12] <thunder_storm> ﻿i use a Fritz!WLAN USB-Stick on my Sony Vario Notebook PCG-FR415B under Hardy, configured manually and patched fritzusb from launchpad-Forum eingerichtet
[00:12] <tareks> I'm not sure if anyone got my previous msgs of help, but I just installed mythbuntu and am having some problems...
[00:12] <tareks> I just installed mythbuntu, hoping to dual boot with XP. But for some reason when I boot from the hdd and it gets time to load a OS, and hopefully show me the boot menu, the screen just fills up with "grub" over and over again
[00:12] <shubuntu> hey question is there a way you guys can type the names of people you're talking to instead of actually typing it?
[00:12] <shubuntu> like do you press any special key combos or whatever
[00:12] <Starnestommy> shubuntu: type the first two or three letters then press tab
[00:13] <thunder_storm> my problem is, ubuntu freezes, after the notebook is a time long idle
[00:13] <Lymies> Magicdead,  libasound2-plugins depends on libasound2 (>> 1.0.16); however:
[00:13] <Lymies>   Version of libasound2 on system is 1.0.15-3ubuntu4.
[00:13] <quentusrex> then how to I execute a remote ssh command without typing the password?
[00:13] <quentusrex> O
[00:13] <shubuntu> i tired that
[00:13] <tareks> someone pleeaasee help...I haev a feeling it's a fairly easy fix, I just have no idea how to do it
[00:13] <thunder_storm> that means - if no data wall be transfered on the wlan0, the system make a "powersave" - and all frezzes
[00:13] <shubuntu> it brings a list of them in the chat window
[00:13] <quentusrex> I'm trying to script a command to run on my remote server, without having to type the password.
[00:13] <shubuntu> doesn't come down here in the typing area
[00:14] <to0x> quentusrex: please, when youre talking to me, highlight me
[00:14] <gway9000> not enough letters typed
[00:14] <quentusrex> ok to0x
[00:14] <to0x> i can't follow you
[00:14] <Flannel> Lymies: you can't use intrepid packages in Hardy
[00:14] <thunder_storm> now my question: how can i disable the powersave function of the usb-connections?
[00:14] <shubuntu> oh i got it it has to be unique
[00:14] <shubuntu> nevermind
[00:14] <legend2440> mattbradshaw: read section on uninstall ati     https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_cat86-inst.html
[00:14] <thunder_storm> idea two: a tool what sends a ping every 30 seconds
[00:15] <quentusrex> to0x, I'm trying to setup a script to run a command on my remote server, but without having to type the password each time the script runs.
[00:15] <Lymies> Flannel, what does that mean
[00:15] <Magicdead> Lymies: uhm... well i suggest you first try following the instructions on the forum-link i gave you, and if that doesn't work get all the packages you need from packages.ubuntu.com intrepid repository
[00:15] <thunder_storm> what is possible?
[00:15] <arooni-mobile> question:  i have an ubuntu hardy desktop i built.... anyway i'm having trouble getting on the interwebs....  i'm connected to a wireless router (with an ethernet cable).... anyway, i tired connecting both via wired & wireless... i get an ip address from the router.... but pinging any service results in "ping: unknown host yahoo.com".  this was working fine before... and better yet, i'm connected to the same router on the lap
[00:15] <arooni-mobile> top i'm typing to you on.
[00:15] <Magicdead> Flannel: why can't he/her use intrepid packages?
[00:15] <Flannel> Lymies: How did you get that file (libasound-plugins?) through the repos? or what?
[00:15] <Magicdead> Flannel: the intrepid flash 10 solves a lot of problems with pa
[00:15] <connor> im eating crumbled bacon in a bowl like cereal
[00:15] <Flannel> Magicdead: He can use intrepid files if he's on intrepid.  You can't mix/match files like that.
[00:16] <to0x> quentusrex: in order to have access to a machine without password with ssh, you ve to generate a public key from your client server, and then copy this file to the user@server:~/.ssh/authorized_keys file
[00:16] <to0x> quentusrex: but the passphrase need to be empty when you generate your public key
[00:16] <thunder_storm> can nobody helps me
[00:16] <quentusrex> but I have done this....
[00:16] <quentusrex> :(
[00:16] <tareks> can anyone help me...pretty please...grub dual boot problem....
[00:16] <quentusrex> that's my problem.... :(
[00:16] <connor> tareks: whats the problem?
[00:16] <jant> quentusrex: no you didn't
[00:16] <tareks> connor: I just installed mythbuntu, hoping to dual boot with XP. But for some reason when I boot from the hdd and it gets time to load a OS, and hopefully show me the boot menu, the screen just fills up with "grub" over and over again
[00:16] <jant> quentusrex: is quite foolproof
[00:16] <quentusrex> jant, then what am I don't wrong???
[00:17] <connor> tareks: if you can, get a ubuntu live cd and boot it
[00:17] <RonLut> Magicdead: It happend again... it's not compiz problem, for sure....
[00:17] <connor> and try an install to see if that helps
[00:17] <Magicdead> Flannel: hmm that's the info i found on the forums when i had problems with flash & pa. sure it's a workaround but in this case the flashplugin-nonfree + alsa 1.0.16 works great
[00:17] <tareks> connor: I'm in the live cd right now
[00:17] <connor> oh
[00:17] <connor> ok
[00:17] <connor> um, download the ubuntu iso and burn it
[00:17] <quentusrex> jant, to0x I'm running ssh-keygen -t dsa and I'm leaving the password field blank
[00:18] <connor> tareks: how did you install?
[00:18] <tareks> Well the CD I booted into is the Mythbuntu Live CD / Install CD
[00:18] <connor> hmm
[00:18] <tareks> connor: I just went through the install normally....didn't select anything but default settings
[00:18] <connor> try reinstalling
[00:18] <connor> that usually helps me
[00:18] <connor> what burn speed did you use?
[00:18] <to0x> quentusrex: are you sure you want to ssh with the correct user
[00:18] <connor> always use the lowest speed on things like this
[00:19] <jant> quentusrex: then scp .ssh/id_dsa.pub <user>@server_to_connect_to:~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[00:19] <jjjjjfjjfjfj> Can someone please give me a quick answer as to whether you would either install Ubuntu or Kubuntu onto a fresh harddrive? Been using Ubuntu in college, and wondering if Kubuntu is a better option..... or is this all just preference?
[00:19] <connor> jjjjjfjjfjfj: ubuntu uses gnome and kubuntu uses kde
[00:19] <tareks> I burnt it in 16X
[00:19] <Magicdead> RonLut: hum, that sucks. well i wonder, if you boot from the install-cd, so you use the standard system on the cd, would the problem still exist.
[00:19] <connor> tareks: was that the lowest?
[00:19] <tareks> I think it's just something wrong with how the dual loader is setup or something, I can't really say since I'm new at this stuff
[00:19] <jant> quentusrex: make sure that the directory .ssh on the server to connect to excists
[00:19] <RonLut> Magicdead: What you mean? using the live cd?
[00:19] <connor> tareks: always get comfortable with the live cd first
[00:19] <gway9000> jjjjjfjjfjfj: yes you can
[00:20] <jant> quentusrex: eq scp shouldn't stop with an error
[00:20] <jjjjjfjjfjfj> connor: yes, would your preference be gnome or kde?
[00:20] <SeaPhor> jjjjjfjjfjfj, just prefs bro
[00:20] <connor> tareks: try uninstalling mythbuntu first and see if that helps
[00:20] <quentusrex> it doesn't.
[00:20] <connor> jjjjjfjjfjfj: i use ubuntu personally, it was what i started with
[00:20] <Magicdead> RonLut: on the linux install-cd is a pre-made complete ubuntu, so you can boot of the cd and use that standard system.
[00:20] <connor> tareks: uninstalling mythbuntu will remove grub, letting you boot xp
[00:20] <jant> quentusrex: then you are done
[00:20] <zangabar> I'm having troubles getting grub to boot my installation of Windows XP.  Windows setup installed the boot loader into a different partition than the XP installation.  Can anyone help me get around this?
[00:20] <quentusrex> jant, but it doesn't work....
[00:20] <bibi__> I am running ubuntu installer and the only choise it gives me is to use entire disk. I want to install it preserving existing partition table. How can I do it?
[00:21] <to0x> quentusrex: so take a look at your ssh config server file and verifiy that this line exists: PubkeyAuthentication yes
[00:21] <connor> zangabar: what happens?
[00:21] <root> who
[00:21] <jjjjjfjjfjfj> connor: Do you know of any advantages/disadvantages over one or the other?
[00:21] <connor> jjjjjfjjfjfj: no I don't,
[00:21] <Magicdead> RonLut: now if you have the problems with the standard system, it is indeed weird. if you don't have it on the live-cd system, the problem is most probably due to some changes you made, your installation, which would mean it's fixable :)
[00:21] <arooni-mobile> i think my file system just went read only.... how can i checK?
[00:21] <connor> jjjjjfjjfjfj: try both live cds for about 30 minutes and see which you prefer
[00:21] <cyphase> umm.. anyone willing to let me vnc into their computer to test out vnc?
[00:21] <connor> kubuntu and ubuntu
[00:21] <connor> or possible xubuntu
[00:21] <gway9000> jjjjjfjjfjfj: k comes before u??
[00:21] <Mechyuske> Right-o then. How, exactly, would I go about putting ubuntu onto an external HDD? Or, better yet, windows XP? When I tried to install xp I got a lengthy message about not being able to install onto a USB drive.
[00:21] <setup> h
[00:22] <quentusrex> RSAAuthentication yes
[00:22] <quentusrex> PubkeyAuthentication yes
[00:22] <quentusrex> #AuthorizedKeysFile     %h/.ssh/authorized_keys
[00:22] <Jester45> cyphase: yea in a few mines
[00:22] <jjjjjfjjfjfj> connor:  thanks.... yep, thats what im going to test out...... dont know anything about kde, but ive been using ubuntu for 5 years now
[00:22] <connor> mechyuske: in the install menu your usb drive SHOULD be on the menu
[00:22] <connor> oh ok
[00:22] <Jester45> minutes*
[00:22] <Magicdead> RonLut: other than that i really have no idea how to find the problem except trial and error.
[00:22] <to0x> so quentusrex you're doing something wrong
[00:22] <Mechyuske> For ubuntu? All right, that's simple enough.
[00:22] <connor> yep
[00:22] <mattbradshaw> thanks for the help guys... but gotta jet
[00:22] <tareks> I think grub or something is just setup incorrectly....I have my XP installation in one physical hdd sdb1 and the linux in another physical hdd which has 2 partitions (one ntfs) and the linux is in sda5
[00:22] <mattbradshaw> guess i'll be reading up on ubuntu's x
[00:22] <Mechyuske> I'd prefer xp, but can't seem to get that working what-so-ever.
[00:22] <cyphase> Jester45: thanks, i appreciate that
[00:22] <connor> mechysuke: does your motherboard support usb booting?
[00:22] <connor> mine does :D
[00:22] <Mechyuske> Yes.
[00:22] <connor> good
[00:23] <connor> then you are set
[00:23] <FloodBot1> connor: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:23] <quentusrex> to0x, But I'm following all of the steps correctly...
[00:23] <quentusrex> to0x, Where is the ssh log file?
[00:23] <connor> im sorry floodbot
[00:23] <Mechyuske> It doesn't work, though. I've tried various different installations.
[00:23] <jant> quentusrex: no you are not
[00:23] <connor> mechyuske: what doesnt work?
[00:23] <Mechyuske> I cannot get vista nor xp to install onto my external hdd.
[00:23] <connor> hmm
[00:23] <to0x> quentusrex: did you verify that the file is correctly created, have to good permissions? all these things
[00:24] <zangabar> More specifically, Windows XP is installed on sda5, and the Windows boot loader was installed onto sda2
[00:24] <tayfun> hey people i have xp home  edition on my pc and now ubuntu too but i would like to control both of them in one packet how could i put my xp on my ubuntu ???
[00:24] <to0x> have the good*
[00:24] <connor> mechyuske: does it not appear in the install menu?
[00:24] <bibi__> Can I install ubuntu withouth altering existing partition table?
[00:24] <quentusrex> tell me how it's suppose to be done, just to double check to0x
[00:24] <connor> mechyuske: for my ubuntu install, i had to unplug my external hard drive to install to my internal
[00:24] <jant> quentusrex: i just did
[00:24] <quentusrex> chmod 600 authorized_keys ?
[00:24] <Mechyuske> XP doesn't let me choose a location.
[00:24] <tayfun> hey people i have xp home  edition on my pc and now ubuntu too but i would like to control both of them in one packet how could i put my xp on my ubuntu ???
[00:24] <connor> mechyuske: you install via a live cd
[00:24] <Mechyuske> And vista doesn't allow you to install to a usb drive.
[00:24] <SeaPhor> bibi__, no
[00:24] <connor> or wubi
[00:24] <Jordan_U> bibi__, Do you have windows installed?
[00:24] <connor> mechyuske: the live cd is the preferred install method
[00:24] <connor> because its much safer
[00:25] <Mechyuske> For ubuntu?
[00:25] <connor> yes
[00:25] <to0x> quentusrex: ssh log file in /var/log i guess
[00:25] <Mechyuske> I was talking about XP/Vista. I should be able to get ubuntu to install just fine.
[00:25] <Jordan_U> !wubi | bibi__
[00:25] <connor> It creates a partition, rather being installed INSIDE of windows itself, making it more proficient
[00:25] <tayfun> hey people i have xp home  edition on my pc and now ubuntu too but i would like to control both of them in one packet how could i put my xp on my ubuntu ???
[00:25] <crazeej> can anybody help me fix my sound??
[00:25] <connor> tayfun: virtual box or vmware
[00:25] <connor> or qemu
[00:25] <bibi__> SeaPhor: Jordan_U: I have another linux distro. and I want ubuntu to be installed on /dev/sda7 , other partitions unchanged.
[00:25] <aditya1> how to Set full permissions (CHMOD 777) on every file inside the "/templates" directory  ???
[00:25] <to0x> quentusrex: the user@server have to read the authorized_keys file correctly
[00:25] <legend2440> mattbradshaw: did you read section on uninstall ati?     https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_cat86-inst.html
[00:26] <tayfun> virtual box or vmarare ? i dont know what those means can u tell me step by step what should i install or set?
[00:26] <connor> bibi__: when i installed ubuntu on my old computer it left opensuse11 installed, i dont know why
[00:26] <to0x> aditya1: chmod -R 777 /templates/*
[00:26] <SeaPhor> bibi__, so you have a prepared place for it?
[00:26] <connor> bibi__: just try installing ubuntu
[00:26] <Jordan_U> bibi__, That can be done easily, just mark /dev/sda7 as '/' in the installer and make sure none of the others are marked to be reformatted ( they shouldn't be by default )
[00:26] <aditya1> to0x: thank you.....and why -R ?
[00:26] <beeant> Mechyuske: Microsoft does not like their OS on external drives. I have read a long web log on forcing XP to install but takes too much effort and its still unstable.
[00:26] <quentusrex> ok, I think one issue might be with my desktop hostname
[00:27] <julius> wormux
[00:27] <jant> quentusrex: like ?
[00:27] <to0x> aditya1: -R for recursive, it will give 777 file permissions to subdirectories
[00:27] <SeaPhor> bibi__, if that is the case then still no unless you also have prepared a swap space
[00:27] <quentusrex> my hostname in the id_rsa.pub file is: quentusrex@quentusrex-desktop
[00:27] <Flannel> aditya1: you probably don't want 777.  You probably want a+rwX
[00:28] <bibi__> Jordan_U: it insists that I partition my disk before I start installation
[00:28] <jant> quentusrex: no it doesn't matter
[00:28] <quentusrex> ok
[00:28] <Jordan_U> bibi__, Do manual partitioning, you don't have to remove your other partitions when you repartition
[00:29] <SeaPhor> bibi__, it will still alter existing partition table, which was your question
[00:29] <d3eniz> heyya all, got a little problem with ubuntu i would like to get some help with. Anyone got the time?
[00:29] <quentusrex> then I'm not sure what the problem is....
[00:29] <bibi__> SeaPhor: so there is just no way
[00:29] <Jordan_U> !ask | d3eniz
[00:29] <bibi__> ?
[00:29] <aditya1> how to solve this problem ??? "You don't have permission to access /se/files/install.php on this server."
[00:29] <quentusrex> sshd on my server don't tell me anything...
[00:30] <jant> quentusrex: and auth.log
[00:30] <bibi__> Jordan_U: it detects my dard disk but does not detect existing partitions and offers to repartition the entire disk :(
[00:30] <d3eniz> im trying to install vlc with the line "sudo apt-get install vlc" but i get a Depends: vlc-plugin-pulse but it is not going to be installed
[00:30] <d3eniz> E: Broken packages
[00:30] <alicec> is there any apt-get for apache-ant ?
[00:30] <quentusrex> it's blacklisted...
[00:30] <quentusrex> that's why
[00:30] <d3eniz> what is blacklisted? vlc?:S
[00:31] <Jordan_U> d3eniz, Can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[00:31] <alicec> how to install ant (apache ant) on ubuntu?
[00:31] <aditya1>  how to solve this problem ??? "You don't have permission to access /se/files/install.php on this server."
[00:31] <d3eniz> what text editor can i open it with?
[00:31] <quentusrex> haha, sorry. d3eniz
[00:31] <SeaPhor> bibi__, if you prepared (PRE) a space for /, and for swap, then yes and no,,, no only by technicality
[00:31] <quentusrex> jant, my key is blacklisted
[00:32] <jant> aha
[00:32] <Starnestommy> aditya1: make sure that www-data can read and execute that file
[00:32] <to0x> aditya1: maybe you dont have the permisions to some directories before install.php, or maybe the wrong user owning these files
[00:32] <jant> quentusrex: apt-get update
[00:32] <quentusrex> on which box?
[00:32] <GoetzC> hi
[00:32] <jant> quentusrex: apt-get openssl install
[00:32] <jant> quentusrex: on the box you genreate the key
[00:32] <Jordan_U> bibi__, Can you post a screenshot?
[00:33] <kriouzaki> hi
[00:33] <GoetzC> i would like to know if the is a way to know witch video driver i am right now using?
[00:33] <quentusrex> already the newest version
[00:33] <quentusrex> jant, it's already the newest version
[00:33] <bibi__> Jordan_U: will try, I am online from another computer.
[00:33] <SeaPhor> bibi__, if you had set up for prior, then the partition table is "changed" but to the way you designed
[00:33] <to0x> how do you see your key is blacklisted? wtf
[00:33] <to0x> quentusrex
[00:33] <quentusrex> ii  libssl0.9.8                           0.9.8e-5ubuntu3         SSL shared libraries
[00:33] <quentusrex> ii  openssl                               0.9.8e-5ubuntu3.2       Secure Socket Layer (SSL) binary and related
[00:34] <steven> Is there any reason I'm getting such poor performance with the playback [skipping] and rythmbox ?
[00:34] <quentusrex> to0x, because in /var/log/auth.log says my key is blacklisted.
[00:34] <to0x> show me the line
[00:34] <quentusrex>  blacklisted (see ssh-vulnkey(1))
[00:34] <to0x> without your key
[00:35] <quentusrex> Jun 27 16:25:28 www sshd[4365]: Public key * blacklisted (see ssh-vulnkey(1))
[00:35] <SeaPhor> bibi__, not sure what you are really asking,,, so i am being direct to your question
[00:35] <d3eniz> ok, pastebin'd my sources.list http://paste.ubuntu.com/23386/
[00:35] <jant> quentusrex: then you ssh keys aren't updated where installed openssl
[00:35] <Magicdead> GoetzC: not sure, but: dir /proc/driver
[00:35] <bibi__> SeaPhor: I do not care about other OS (if it is bootable afterwards or no). I just want to install ubuntu say on /dev/sda7 and preserve data thatas on /dev/sda8 withouth having to backup.
[00:36] <jant> quentusrex: anyway you should regenerate the blacklisted key
[00:36] <nickrud> quentusrex, do  man ssh-vulnkey , it explains why your key is bad
[00:36] <tayfun> hey people how can i change the background picture from my start menu when i open my pc and its ask me my account name and password?
[00:36] <tannji> I have a question about my kernel and alsa, can anyone help on this?
[00:36] <quentusrex> I have to not only update openssl, but also libssl0.9.8
[00:36] <tayfun> hey people how can i change the background picture from my start menu when i open my pc and its ask me my account name and password?
[00:37] <Flannel> tannji: System > Admin > Login Window
[00:37] <bibi__> SeaPhor: You mean if I had a free space instead of /dev/sda7 I could install ubuntu there withouth touching /dev/sda8?
[00:37] <Flannel> tayfun: that was for you
[00:37] <nickrud> tayfun, install gdmsetup, then see Flannel
[00:37] <tannji> lol
 thanks, but i don't find anything there.
[00:37] <tayfun> thanks
[00:38] <NetEcho> does Ubuntu come with any default installed IRC clients other than pidgin?
[00:38] <legend2440> GoetzC: which video player are you using?
[00:38] <quentusrex> YAY!!! thanks jant and to0x
[00:38] <quentusrex> jant++
[00:38] <quentusrex> to0x++
[00:38] <bubaglobalJ> what version should I download, when using a macbook and having about 10 gigs partition available?
[00:38] <jant> :)
[00:38] <to0x> quentusrex what was the problem?
 video player, i use totem, but why?
[00:39] <t35t0r> does anyone know if there's some equivalent set of programs that can simulate the behavior of drobo, e.g. maybe scripts?
[00:39] <bubaglobalJ> i am assuming its intel computres?
[00:39] <tayfun> nick rud
[00:39] <quentusrex> to0x, the problem was that I had openssl updated, but I didn't have libssl0.9.8 updated
[00:39] <t35t0r> of a drobo rather
[00:39] <to0x> okay
[00:39] <tayfun> i tried to install gmd setup from terminal it says no packet found
[00:39]  * bubaglobalJ is a nub, pls help
[00:39] <quentusrex> to0x, you have to update libssl so that the blacklisted keys are fixed.
[00:39] <tayfun> what should i write there for to install it ?
[00:39] <GoetzC> I know what driver I use in this pc, but i dont know what driver I use in a box where a ati card is.
[00:39] <to0x> quentusrex yep ;)
[00:39] <Flannel> nickrud: What?  Its installed by default
[00:39] <julius> hi all
[00:40] <nickrud> Flannel, I thought I remembered installing it on this machine.
[00:40] <Flannel> NetEcho: No, but xchat is in universe, and irssi is in main
[00:40] <SeaPhor> well then if u are sure that /dev/sda7 is where you want it then yes, but you will need to partition for swap,   which edits /changes your partition table, which was your question,,, as far as "and preserve data thatas on /dev/sda8 withouth having to backup." never a good idea to mess with partitions without backup
[00:40] <SliMM_> hello
[00:40] <Flannel> NetEcho: and xchat-gnome is in main too, but most don't like that
[00:40] <NetEcho> Flannel yea I know I'm just trying to introduce a guy who's never touched linux before to ubuntu
[00:40] <SliMM_> how can I use my webcam and/or my fingerprint reader in ubuntu?
[00:40] <nickrud> Flannel, and I saw what you wrote (intended to say the same) but you'd already done so.
[00:40] <SeaPhor> bibi__, no, not what i  mean
[00:40] <Flannel> nickrud: Just trying to steal my fire ;)
[00:41] <thedefender> hey i accidentally put a typo in my user name when i installed, how do i correct my username
[00:41] <nickrud> Flannel, I use electric bulbs, what would I need with fire ;p
[00:41] <bubaglobalJ> what version should I download, using a macbook intel core duo
[00:41] <tayfun> how can i install gdm setup and where do i find it after i install it on my pc???
[00:42] <tayfun> pls help me
[00:42] <SeaPhor> bibi__, and yes,,, but would change the partition table that was your original question
[00:42] <SliMM_> ok, how can i see what hardware i have on my notebook?
[00:42] <d3eniz> so, anyone got a clue why i cant install vlc, i get a  package error, this is my sources.list >http://paste.ubuntu.com/23386/
[00:42] <legend2440> GoetzC: sorry misunderstood thought you meant which video driver was being used for playing a video. is the ati box linux?
[00:42] <SliMM_> tayfun: system>administration>login screen
[00:42] <bibi__> SeaPhor: jordan_U: basically what I want is following. right now I have two partitions /dev/sda7 and /dev/sda8. my home (GBs of data) is mounted on /dev/sda8 everything else (/etc /boot /log ...) is on /dev/sda7.  I want to install ubuntu on /dev/sda7 and I want all the data to be left untouched on /dev/sda8 (mount it later as my home directory). Is it doable with ubuntu installer or would I have to backup entyre home directory and write it bac
[00:42] <bibi__> again after installation?
[00:42] <bubaglobalJ> !askbot version download
[00:42] <SeaPhor> bibi__, but that leaves the question,, where do you install grub?
[00:42] <thedefender> d3niz : sudo apt-get install vlc
[00:43] <quentusrex> now, for the next question: what username does svn post-commit run under?
[00:43] <d3eniz> thedefender
[00:43] <d3eniz> not working
[00:43] <d3eniz> Depends: vlc-plugin-pulse but it is not going to be installed
[00:43] <d3eniz> E: Broken packages
[00:43] <xenoglossia>  I'm dual-booting Win2K and Ubuntu 8.04, and (after trying to boot a Live USB), I get this error message http://paste.ubuntu.com/23323/.  I'm told that I replaced the Windows bootloader with Syslinux (by the way, I'm a total novice with Linux).  Is there anything to do?
[00:43] <tannji> I have a question about my kernel and alsa, can anyone help on this?
[00:43] <thedefender> download it from there site
[00:43] <SliMM_> quentusrex: read the svn book :-)
[00:43] <thedefender> hey i accidentally put a typo in my user name when i installed, how do i correct my username
[00:43] <d3eniz> but why is the apt-get function not working?
[00:43] <xenoglossia> By the way, I don't have my Windows CD anymore, and I'm a total novice.
[00:44] <Jordan_U> d3eniz, Can you pastebin the output from "sudo apt-get install vlc-plugin-pulse" ?
[00:44] <Jordan_U> bibi__, That is doable with the installer
[00:44] <bubaglobalJ> I am going to download the desktop Intel version, are there any objections?
[00:44] <jant> thedefender: man usermod
[00:44] <thedefender> jant: thx
[00:44] <Jordan_U> bibi__, Just select manual partitioning, make /dev/sda7 "/" and /dev/sda8 "/home" and make sure that /dev/sda8 is NOT marked to be reformatted
[00:44] <SeaPhor> bibi__, yes do-able, never advisable without backup,, but yes
 yes, the ati box has linux ubuntu. But I think that there must be a way to know witch driver is actually in use, with ati i can use 4 different drivers.
[00:45] <julius> hi ya des francais?
[00:45] <to0x> !fr julius
[00:45] <to0x> lol
[00:45] <to0x> #ubuntu-fr julius
[00:45] <PalaBoot> hi
[00:45] <julius> je suis francais
[00:45] <PalaBoot> i'm italian
[00:45] <tannji> In 8.04, do I have the "fully configured source for the linux kernel", or is it a "partial installed kernel"?
[00:45] <legend2440> GoetzC: have you looked at   /etc/X11/xorg.conf    driver might be listed yhere
[00:46] <julius> bonjourno
[00:46] <SliMM_> julius: bravo
[00:46] <PalaBoot> i don't speek eng very well
[00:46] <d3eniz> pastebin from vlc-plugin-pulse http://paste.ubuntu.com/23390/
[00:46] <tayfun> hy people what should i install for to get my xp system on ubuntu in one pc ? like a virtual desktop ???
[00:46] <julius> ca  s ecrit pas comme ca
[00:46] <jant> thedefender: to make it really nice: mv /home/oldusername /home/newusername && usermod -d /home/newusername -l newusername oldusername
[00:46] <PalaBoot> can you help me?
[00:46] <Jordan_U> PalaBoot, What is your first language, there are many Ubuntu channels for other languages
[00:47] <jant> thedefender: been there done that
[00:47] <bubaglobalJ> !askbot other ubuntu support channels
[00:47] <ozzy> can severs be added on this
[00:47] <julius> about?
[00:47] <Pici> !irc | bubaglobalJ
[00:47] <SeaPhor> PalaBoot, just state your entire question please
[00:47] <tayfun> hy people what should i install for to get my xp system on ubuntu in one pc ? like a virtual desktop ???
[00:47] <bibi__> Jordan_U: installer does not see existing partitions for some reason. The only choise it gives me is to create a new partition table for the entire device
[00:47] <bubaglobalJ> thx
[00:47] <PalaBoot> thx but in ubuntu it don't help me
[00:47] <Jordan_U> bibi__, Does gparted see the partitions?
[00:47] <nickrud> !it | PalaBoot
[00:48] <arooni-mobile> question:  i have an ubuntu hardy desktop i built.... anyway i'm having trouble getting on the interwebs....  i'm connected to a wireless router (with an ethernet cable).... anyway, i tired connecting both via wired & wireless... i get an ip address from the router.... but pinging any service results in "ping: unknown host yahoo.com".  this was working fine before... and better yet, i'm connected to the same router on the lap
[00:48] <arooni-mobile> top i'm typing to you on.  my /etc/resolv.conf says:  "nameserver 192.168.0.1" (the address of my router).  i can't ping that address from the desktop.... although i can ping it from my laptop with  no issues.  ideas?
[00:48] <PalaBoot> i've HD player and My SO is Ubuntu 8.04
[00:48] <to0x> !fr | julius
[00:48] <tannji> In 8.04, do I have the "fully configured source for the linux kernel", or is it a "partial installed kernel"?
[00:48] <Pici> arooni-mobile: Make sure that the route tables for both computers are the same, it could be a default gateway issue
[00:48] <julius> to0x yes?
[00:49] <PalaBoot> when i copy file in hd i don't see i tv
[00:49] <SeaPhor> there ya go to0x !
[00:49] <PalaBoot> i see "cartelle vuota"
[00:49] <to0x> SeaPhor what?
[00:49] <Pici> !enter | PalaBoot
[00:49] <tayfun> hy people what should i install for to get my xp system on ubuntu in one pc ? like a virtual desktop ???
[00:49] <tayfun> hy people what should i install for to get my xp system on ubuntu in one pc ? like a virtual desktop ???
[00:49] <tayfun> hy people what should i install for to get my xp system on ubuntu in one pc ? like a virtual desktop ???
[00:49] <FloodBot1> tayfun: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:49] <legend2440> d3eniz: have you tried   sudo aptitude install vlc-plugin-pulse?   sometimes aptitude offere solutions or options
[00:49] <shittts> hi all...how do i look up my default gateway on ubuntu
[00:49] <arooni-mobile> Pici, ho wdo i check route tables
[00:49] <Magicdead> GoetzC: another way would be lsmod, it should be listed there. probably "lsmod |grep agpgart" should work
[00:50] <SeaPhor> to0x, i was looking for it too, just saying grats
[00:50] <julius> noboby want play wormux??
 i think that after xorg 7.3, the xorg.conf file has nothing more, a least some body specificed this. so, i have nothing
[00:50] <thedefender> Tayfun: learn to read
[00:50] <to0x> SeaPhor you're welcome :p
[00:50] <PalaBoot> with windows is ok i copy and then i see file in tv
[00:50] <Pici> arooni-mobile, shittts: the terminal command is route
[00:50] <shittts> thanks
[00:50] <Khisanth> arooni-mobile: are you sure your router has a DNS server running on it?
[00:50] <Jordan_U> arooni-mobile, While connected via ethernet try "sudo dhclient eth0"
[00:50] <arooni-mobile> Khisanth, not sure
[00:51] <SeaPhor> to0x, what's the italian one, PalaBoot  may need
[00:51] <d3eniz> jordan U, thanks for the help, it gave me a option now, gonna try it out
[00:51] <snill> Hei
[00:51] <to0x> SeaPhor look, it's magic
[00:51] <to0x> !it | SeaPhor
 that is a good idea, in my intel box it works, but i have to see this in an ati box. Surly it works :)
[00:51] <legend2440> GoetzC: do you have   gnome-device-manager  installed. it is in Applications>system tools if it is installed. that lists my ati driver as fglrx
[00:51] <julius> to0x play with me at wormux
[00:52] <to0x> julius tg crétin
[00:52] <SeaPhor> to0x, lol, nice, NOT me that needs ;-)
[00:52] <SeaPhor> read
[00:52] <Magicdead> GoetzC: well, lsmod as such works for sure, just not sure if ati is listed on the agpgart line as well ;)
[00:52] <julius> pq tg ? to0x
[00:52] <arooni-mobile> Pici, routes are exactly the same
[00:53] <tannji> can anyone tell me how to find the status of my kernel?  I need alsa, but this readme says I need the full kernel source installed, and that some distros dont do that by default....
 i have this not installed, but I i'm downloading it :)
[00:53] <jamis> whats the standard source formatter for linux?
[00:53] <bibi__> Jordan_U: SeaPhor: I removed installation CD. booted into existing system. fdisk shows two partitions. The installation CD I am using is ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso . What is the meaning of alternate here?
[00:53] <julius> to0x tu es francais?
[00:54] <Jordan_U> bibi__, Ahh, you are using the text based install CD rather than the LiveCD based install CD
[00:54] <quentusrex> jant, to0x if I want www-data to be able to remotely log into my remote server how would I do that?
[00:54] <quentusrex> I want www-data to login to my remote server using my username and keys
[00:54] <legend2440> GoetzC:   Magicdead is right     lsmod   has line like  agpgart                34760  2 fglrx,amd64_agp which lists fglrx as my driver
[00:54] <bubaglobalJ> whats a good iso burner for mac os x?
[00:54] <julius> suisse
[00:54] <d3eniz> jordan_u, ok, now i tryed that aswell, it installs something and gives a sign that somethings beeing installed, but when i try to find vlc, there is nothing anywere in the applications menu
[00:54] <SeaPhor> bibi__, alternate cd has more config options in install
[00:54] <Magicdead> GoetzC: just checked, as long as it's an agp card, it should be there :) agpgart is a basic kernel module for agp cards
[00:55] <to0x> quentusrex why do you want to do that, it's a bit insecure
[00:55] <SeaPhor> and text based
 oh, that is grate!
[00:55] <quentusrex> to0x, because I want svn to update my sandbox webserver whenever I post a new commit to my svn repo
[00:55] <mroc> hi all.  i have gnome set up just the way i like it on my account.  is there an easy way to duplicate these settings for another account?
[00:55] <quentusrex> the remote user account is very restrictive and protected.
[00:56] <quentusrex> it can only run a single command: svn update
[00:56] <mckaycr> trying to upgrade 8.04 over 6.06 via alt cd, keep getting prereqs failed error, any ideas?
 so, that is the right way, also, in  gnome-device-manager i have not found my driver.
[00:56] <bibi__> SeaPhot: If I created some free space on my device, would I be able to install ubuntu there and mount already existing ext3 partitions afterwards?
[00:56] <to0x> quentusrex i guess there is an option in svn to do that
[00:56] <molgrum> how do i downgrade my nvidia drivers to work on 2.6.22-14-rt kernel?
[00:56] <TalioGladius> So I just discovered the awesomeness that is acidrip.....I'm so stoked now
[00:56] <ian__> k, so tell me if i'm crazy here, but if i DELETE the xorg.conf and then user nvidia-xconfig and then reboot...that SHOULD get me into X right?
[00:56] <legend2440> GoetzC: is it fglrx?
[00:56] <ian__> cuz right now, when i do that, i get caught in the failsafe crap
[00:57] <ian__> and even THEN nvidia-settings thinks i'm not in an nvidia X, probably because i'm in safe mode
[00:57] <Jordan_U> mroc, All options are in configuration files in your home folder, ~/.gconf is where the gnome ( and other ) settings are stored, you can copy them to your other user's home folder and change the ownership to that other user
[00:58] <mroc> Jordan_U: fantastic!  thank you.  is it just as easy for compiz settings as well?
 i have right know only an intel box to check, but it should work with lsmod :)
[00:58] <CelticLord> nuuuuiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittttttttt !!!!!!!!!!!1
[00:58] <Jordan_U> mroc, Yes, pretty much everything in *NIX is saved in plain text files :)
[00:59] <Magicdead> GoetzC: well if it doesn't you can still do just "lsmod" and look through the whole text, but it's a little long ;)
[00:59] <suprfish> Hi, I am having screen resolution problems, I was wondering if anyone could help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=842856
[00:59] <mroc> Jordan_U: much appreciated.  thanks.
[00:59] <bibi__> SeaPhor: If I created some free space on my device, would I be able to install ubuntu there and mount already existing ext3 partitions afterwards?
[00:59] <Khisanth> arooni-mobile: you can check with 'dig @192.168.0.1 yahoo.com' if there is one it should return pretty quickly, if not it will hang around for a while
[00:59] <legend2440> GoetzC: its kind of tricky in device manager.  you have to click    View>Device properties   then highlight   VGA Controller then click properties tab on top of right window
[00:59] <the_hardy_kid> hello?
[00:59] <Jordan_U> mroc, If you want to transfer all of your settings for all of your user's applications then copy all of the files and folders which begin with '.' in your home folder
 yes it is long, hehe.
[01:00] <Magicdead> GoetzC: but the driver also has a single line entry, for instance for me "nvidia               7105956  34 "
[01:01] <Blaqlight> its pretty bad when your laptop CPU core temperature is cooler than it is outside right now.
[01:01] <jant> quentusrex: maybe you want to hire me ? :P
[01:01] <quentusrex> :) maybe
[01:01] <emilio> salve a tutti
[01:01] <quentusrex> do you live near Seattle?
[01:01] <jant> quentusrex: nope I live in The Netherlands
[01:01] <FurryNemesis> suprfish, that's an odd problem all right
[01:01] <quentusrex> :(
[01:01] <suprfish> After messing around a bit, I was able to get my desktop resolution properly set to 1680 x 1050, but my screen's resolution is still 1280 x 1024
[01:01] <quentusrex> oh well.
 oh, I have not know about this hidden tab :) Tanks
[01:02] <suprfish> FurryNemesis, any suggestions?
[01:02] <FurryNemesis> let me look at those xorgs a bit closer
[01:02] <Jordan_U> Blaqlight, Wow, you sure you aren't mixing Fahrenheit with Celsius ?
[01:03] <Blaqlight> umm nope
[01:03] <Ballena> is there a way to get rid of the .sudo_as_admin_successful for ever?
[01:03] <Blaqlight> core temp is 102 degrees farenheight.
[01:03] <Blaqlight> its 104 degree farenheight now in this city.
[01:03] <monkeyBox> What "runlevel" does ubuntu start in by default?
[01:03] <GoetzC>  <Magicdead> if I do a "lsmod |grep intel" there is a intel_agp and a agpgart.
[01:03] <suprfish> FurryNemesis, the latest xorg.conf is on post #11 with the commented Screen and Monitor sections uncommented
[01:03] <MidnightDevil> thats 38.8
[01:03] <MidnightDevil> :D
[01:03] <MidnightDevil> in celsius language
[01:03] <MidnightDevil> LOL
[01:03] <FloodBot1> MidnightDevil: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:04] <FurryNemesis> looking at it now
[01:04] <Blaqlight> celcius is for all other countries but the US. cuz we special I guess or something.
[01:04] <MidnightDevil> u just dont use the same math as we do
[01:04] <SeaPhor> bibi__, ok, example only!,,, i have a 160gb hd mounted as /home,, another 160gb hd mounted as /var, which are both in the file-system
[01:05] <Magicdead> GoetzC: well it always depends on the system. if it's a pci card, probably "lsmod |grep pci" would work :P
[01:05] <MidnightDevil> neither the binary structure is the same :d
[01:05] <ntolo> My mysql database was running a moment ago and now when i try to start it is fails.Any help would be  appreciated.
[01:05] <Blaqlight> what!?!?! you mean 1+2=4?
[01:05] <MidnightDevil> no
[01:05] <MidnightDevil> 1+2=12
[01:05] <MidnightDevil> :D
[01:05] <FLeiXiuS> Okay, so im having a network issue.  The interface loads up fine and was working prior but now..nothing..no packets in no packets out.  The switch doesnt even see any arp packets coming from the box.
[01:05] <FLeiXiuS> I've got no clue...
 and with pciexpress?? :)
[01:06] <MidnightDevil> u got urself a stealth box, congrats :)
[01:06] <Magicdead> GoetzC: lol. go try it out ;)
[01:06] <FurryNemesis> suprfish, what is that "virtual" line in the screen section supposed to do?
[01:06] <bibi__> SeaPhor: I have both partitions on the same hd. I guess my only option is to make the actual backup.
[01:06] <popey> t35t0r: I'm working on it :)
[01:07] <arooni_> Khisanth, got it working
[01:07] <quentusrex> does the user www-data have a password set?
 hehe, if I would have one, i will look into lsmod. Many thanks to you and to <legend2440> for your help!
[01:08] <planetxmail> quent: NO there is no reason for it to have one
[01:09] <suprfish> FurryNemesis: I am not certain, is that the res for the 'cloned' monitor?
[01:09] <SeaPhor> bibi__, well, i would suggest that anyway, but, you seem to know what you are doing , and if you know for sure where to install and what to mount others as,,, well its up to you,,,
[01:09] <lucas_> got a problem, firefox always starts in offline mode and so does epiphany
[01:09] <lucas_> how can i solve that??
[01:10] <juanoooo> holaaaaaaa
[01:10] <planetxmail> hiiiiiiiii
[01:10] <Aragorn> yooooooo
[01:10] <juanoooo> alguno usa el gdb ?
[01:10] <FLeiXiuS> How do I figure out which device my network interface maps too..
[01:10] <d3eniz> anyone know i could sovle my problems installing vlc?
 do you use WICD?
[01:10] <lucas_> GoetzC, nope...
[01:10] <FurryNemesis> suprfish, if you've got 2 monitors, yes - if not it might be getting in the way
[01:10] <molgrum> hello, i would like to downgrade my nvidia-glx-new package so that i can boot the 2.6.22-14 kernel again. i tried the "force version" option in synaptic but it doesn't let me go far enough..
[01:10] <Gigs> Has there been any talk about extending the support time for 7.10 LTS past April?
[01:11] <lucas_> no one knows how to solve firefox offline mode probelm??
[01:11] <ntolo> * Starting MySQL database server mysqld  fail. The database was working when i  restarted the machine .Please any help would be appreciated.
[01:11] <bibi__> SeaPhor: thanks
[01:11] <suprfish> FurryNemesis: I will try disabling it, brb.
[01:12] <SeaPhor> bibi__, i hope i helped,,, you can find me in #SeaPhor or #Digital-it
[01:13] <jant> quentusrex: no it doesn't
[01:13] <jant> quentusrex: *haven't
[01:13] <legend2440> lucas_: its a known bug. the last post offers a solution   https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+question/31925
[01:15] <lucas_> ok tryin
[01:15] <lucas_> legend2440, doesnt work
[01:16] <legend2440> lucas_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=370766
[01:16] <peterpan098> wat is the best network manager?
[01:17] <suprfish> FurryNemesis: after commenting out 'virtual' and rebooting, both the screen and desktop resolutions are 1280x800
[01:18] <peterpan098> networkmanager or wicd?
[01:18] <planetxmail> nm-applet
[01:18] <planetxmail> for gnome
[01:18] <lucas_> legend2440, if i disable networkmanager i wont be able to configure other network interfaces... no solution in the problem, firefox 2 works perfect....
[01:18] <peterpan098> download wicd?
[01:18] <thetank> anyone know how to find people to join in programming software
[01:19] <FurryNemesis> suprfish, ok. progress there I think. Target res and screen size is 1680 x 1050
[01:19] <FurryNemesis> ?
[01:19] <legend2440> lucas_: do you have wired network connection?
[01:19] <thetank> I came up with an idea for a social website and I need to find programmers to help
[01:19] <suprfish> FurryNemesis: correct
[01:19] <ntolo> Where can i find the mysql log files ?
[01:19] <lucas_> legend2440, im connected through an usb modem
[01:20] <Magicdead> ntolo: /var/log/mysql
[01:20] <legend2440> lucas_: is   enable roaming mode    box checked?
[01:20] <lucas_> legend2440, how do i do that?
[01:21] <FurryNemesis> ok, just a sec
[01:21] <maccam94> thetank: #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:22] <legend2440> lucas_:   system>administration >Network  then  highlight Wired Connections  then properties tab  there is a box to check
[01:22] <ntolo> Magicdead,mysql database just could not start anymore,what could be the problem ?
[01:22] <Magicdead> ntolo: nothing in the error log?
[01:23] <aguitel> what program is to read news in ubuntu ?
[01:24] <FurryNemesis> suprfish, not sure I'm on the right track here, but what's that second " screen" section doing?
[01:24] <spoon_man> if I'm using Hardy with the default Gnome environment, can I just download the "kde4" package in Synaptic if I want to check out KDE?
[01:24] <legend2440> aguitel: usenet news reader?   pan is good
[01:25] <spoon_man> the KDE site wasn't very informative in this regard
[01:25] <aguitel> legend2440: usenet
[01:25] <planetxmail> spoon_man: no it is called   desktop_kde  or something like that
[01:25] <Blaqlight> spoon_man,  yes don't do kde4-desktop or it'll overwrite all of your default stuff.
[01:25] <planetxmail> from apt-get install
[01:25] <legend2440> aguitel: in synaptic   package called     pan
[01:25] <Blaqlight> just do sudo aptitude install kde
[01:26] <Flannel> spoon_man, planetxmail: kubuntu-desktop
[01:26] <aguitel> legend2440: thanks
[01:26] <suprfish> FurryNemesis: I don't know, I think it is just a place holder for d-sub or something
[01:26] <Noob> Someone please i need help with my ubuntu herty heron
[01:26] <noiq> anyone setup DHCP Server here before?
[01:26] <ntolo> Magicdead,There is no error log file .
[01:26] <jant> noiq: yes
[01:26] <Magicdead> ntolo: and if you run mysql --verbose ?
[01:26] <spoon_man> Flannel, if I grab kubuntu-desktop, can I still use the Gnome environment?
[01:27] <lensy> i interupted an upgrade to hardy and now i cant graphicaly login to my laptop can anyone help me please?
[01:27] <suprfish> FurryNemesis: In displayconfig there is a tab for a second screen that is set to 'disabled', this probably corresponds with thtat
[01:27] <Blaqlight> spoon_man, yes
[01:27] <FurryNemesis> aah
[01:27] <lensy> i interupted an upgrade to hardy and now i cant graphicaly login to my laptop can anyone help me please?
[01:27] <FurryNemesis> ok
[01:27] <spoon_man> okay, thanks guys :)
[01:27] <FurryNemesis> right, in that case, in your first section......
[01:27] <lensy> FurryNemesis: you? can u help?
[01:27] <lensy> i can login with text only
[01:27] <ntolo> Magicdead,i get  Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[01:28] <lensy> but not graphicay
[01:28] <jant> ntolo: tail /var/log/mysql.err
[01:28] <FurryNemesis> um, anyone else?
[01:28] <FurryNemesis> I'm busy with suprfish atm
[01:28] <Jester45> lensy: run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to finish your upgrade
[01:28] <lensy> MY LAPTOP WILL NOT LOGON!
[01:28] <Flannel> spoon_man: you can, yes
[01:28] <lensy> ok
[01:28] <FurryNemesis> sorry
[01:28] <lensy> ty
[01:28] <Blaqlight> geez.
[01:28] <Noob> please help me i have harty heron ubuntu and i caint get on the internet i am hooking it to a modem on another computer with a usb cable and ive run the pppoeconf crap and it tells me the access concentrator is not responding please help me
[01:28] <Magicdead> ntolo: does restarting the mysql server help ?
[01:29] <ntolo> jant,i get nothing  from tail  /var/log/mysql.err
[01:29] <lensy> Jester45: it doesnt work, it says "E: dpkg was interupted etc....
[01:29] <love> hola
[01:29] <Magicdead> ntolo: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart
[01:29] <suprfish> FurryNemesis: I am currently reading: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-desktop-x-windows/9010-virtual-desktop-size-wrong-fedora-mandrake-10-0-a.html, could this offer a solution?
[01:29] <Jester45> lensy: sudo dpkg -a reconfigure or what ever it tells you do to
[01:29] <Jester45> lensy: i cant fully remember it
[01:29] <love> wast do you mean
[01:30] <ntolo> Magicdead, I get  * Starting MySQL database server mysqld  [fail]
[01:30] <Noob> SOMEONE???????????????????
[01:30] <FurryNemesis> suprfish, right, then in your first screen section trim the modes line until it's got only the resolution you want - they might be able to help, as I'm sort of guessing here
[01:30] <love> k
[01:30] <love> ?
[01:30] <Noob> PLEASE????????????
[01:31] <love> can you help me
[01:31] <jant> ntolo: have you aleady run mysql in vebose mode like Magicdead said ?
[01:31] <Noob> FUCK YOU ALL THEN YOU FAGS
[01:31] <Starnestommy> Noob: watch your language!
[01:31] <suprfish> FurryNemesis, I will give it a shot, brb
[01:31] <Noob> HELP ME THEN
[01:31] <FurryNemesis> ok
[01:31] <lensy> ntolo: at least ur computer will login, be glad of that
[01:31] <legend2440> lensy in terminal try   sudo dpkg --configure -a  then sudo apt-get update   and     sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:31] <niku> noob: you're an iditiot and people like you give unix folks a bad name
[01:31] <Jester45> !patience | Noob
[01:31] <love> was do you mean
[01:31] <Starnestommy> Noob: you need a compatible driver
[01:32] <love> k
[01:32] <Noob> explaine im a retard
[01:32] <love> wait
[01:32] <ntolo> jant, I get  Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) from mysql --verbose
[01:32] <AJF355|AFK> I agree with the n00b
[01:32] <Jester45> !patience | noob
[01:32] <niku> someone needs to kick him
[01:32] <AJF355|AFK> offs ubottu u crack me up
[01:32] <jant> ntolo: we are talking about mysqld and not mysql
[01:33] <frreeeeee> Can anyone help me, I have a problem burning dvds in 8.04, they all stop halfway through, no matter what program i use... It works fine on my windows box, but not ubuntu... Another dvd burner i have works fine in ubuntu though
[01:33] <niku> ntolo: is this a new install?
[01:33] <niku> if not, has anything changed in your my.cf ?
[01:33] <ntolo> niku, no it has been worlking all along .
[01:34] <Noob> i dont understand please explain what i need to do it tells me i need to download codecs to play mp3s and i caint cause i caint get on the net
[01:34] <willytell> hello, I'm trying to install drivers for a modem smartlink 56K PCI. I followed explanations in different forums, but without success.
[01:34] <ntolo> jant ,I get  InnoDB: Operating system error number 13 in a file operation from mysqld --verbose
[01:34] <Jester45> Noob we are not paid to help you we can and will help who ever we feel like, to add to that your attitude can make us not want to help you at all and if we dont know how to answer you (as we are just users) dont get mad because we dont know your problem
[01:34] <niku> and there's nothing in your mysql logs?
[01:35] <ntolo> niku,nothing
[01:35] <Magicdead> ntolo: so "mysqld --verbose" doesn't give an error (i misstyped earlier and forgot the tailing d....)
[01:35] <Magicdead> ah ok
[01:35] <Magicdead> ^^
[01:35] <jant> :)
[01:35] <niku> is the process running? try: ps auxwwww | grep mysqld
[01:35] <Noob> ok i am sorry please help me what information do you need
[01:35] <Jester45> frreeeeee: is are both burners the same?
[01:35] <frreeeeee> no
[01:35] <frreeeeee> they are different
[01:35] <suprfish> FurryNemesis; no change :[ (1280 x 1024)
[01:35] <FurryNemesis> drat
[01:35] <frreeeeee> gsa h41n is the one in question
[01:36] <begemot> Greetings!
[01:36] <begemot> Guys, i got a question - how to make resolution in greeting-screen 1024x768 from 1280...?
[01:36] <ntolo> Magicdead,it says  InnoDB: Operating system error number 13 in a file operation.
[01:36] <dolphin_noel> someone knows why amsn keeps crashing me and makes logout the acount in my ubuntu?!
[01:36] <dolphin_noel> when im try to change the display picture?
[01:36] <dolphin_noel> :x
[01:36] <orphean> I have a usb wireless adapter that I just setup (via ndiswrapper)  ndiswrapper -l shows the driver is installed and the device is present.  However, network-manager-gnome doesn't show any wireless networks at all.  I got it to work by going to System->Administration->Network and manually setting things up for my home network, but I really would prefer getting network-manager to see this. Anyone have any ideas?
[01:36] <Jester45> frreeeeee: is one lightscribe? linux might not have perfect drivers for it and they might beable to detect it and even start burning but fail to do a sertain task during the burn
[01:37] <frreeeeee> no its not lightscribe
[01:37] <derekS> does anyone here use webex on hardy?
[01:37] <jant> ntolo: are you filepermission on /var/lib/mysql set correcty to mysql ?
[01:37] <derekS> i think i am having problems with java, it isn't working
[01:37] <Magicdead> ntolo: it means permissions for some file it wants to acces are screwed up according to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=529295
[01:37] <lensy> derekS: hello!
[01:37] <MatBoy> mhh, I can' t find a reason why ubuntu still struggles with egroupware 1.2 :S
[01:37] <niku> ntolo: who are you running mysqld as?
[01:37] <lensy> derekS: you dont work for buckie high school do you?
[01:37] <FurryNemesis> thinking
[01:37] <Jester45> frreeeeee: i had the same problem a few years back with a usb cd burner, it was 5 disc changer and when it tried to go to a new track it would change disk in the middle of the burn :(
[01:38] <niku> mysqld starts as root and then drops privs
[01:38] <derekS> lensy: ?
[01:38] <lensy> its robert
[01:38] <derekS> no?
[01:38] <lensy> aww
[01:38] <lensy> soz
[01:38] <derekS> sorry :(
[01:38] <tayfun> hey people how can i connect from my pc with bluetooth to my cellphone?
[01:38] <lensy> i thought u were someone else
[01:38] <lensy> sorryr
[01:38] <lensy> :P
[01:38] <FloodBot1> lensy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:38] <suprfish> FurryNemesis: I'm going to have a break for the day, I'll post my plan for tomorrow on the forums and bump it a few times to see if anyone else has some ideas :[
[01:38] <suprfish> thanks for your help though :D
[01:38] <Magicdead> ntolo: did you change any permissions or something?
[01:38] <FurryNemesis> ok
[01:38] <FurryNemesis> good luck
[01:38] <suprfish> thanks again
[01:38] <frreeeeee> Ihave een trying to fix this for a while, but it seems there isnt a way to fix it
[01:38] <tayfun> hey people how can i connect from my pc with bluetooth to my cellphone?
[01:38] <FurryNemesis> bottom line is there's something in the file that sets it t that
[01:38] <ntolo> No,i did not change anything.
[01:38] <AJF355> lensybubble
[01:38] <FurryNemesis> find that, edit it  and you're away
[01:39] <suprfish> hrmmmm
[01:39] <tlsarles> Anyone got a serial for XP SP3 Corp?
[01:39] <Jester45> !bluetooth | tayfun
[01:39] <frreeeeee> I found a few forum posts about people having the same problem but none of the posts are solution
[01:39] <niku> ntolo, try sudo su -
[01:39] <AJF355> hi lensy
[01:39] <niku> ntolo: then start mysqld as normal
[01:39] <suprfish> thanks
[01:39] <lensy> hi AJF
[01:39] <Noob> i have a compaq persario laptop i have ubuntu harty heron running on it i have hooked it up to another computer that has a dsl modem and it will not connect i have tried pppoeconf in terminal and the access concentrator will not respond im sorry for being rude please help me
[01:39] <niku> (preferably via the init script)
[01:39] <Jester45> tlsarles: i think this is the wrong channel for the question
[01:39] <FurryNemesis> np, nn
[01:39] <Magicdead> ntolo: weird thing is, if i get this right, mysqld should tell you whicht file it hasn't got access rights to ....
[01:40] <willytell> tlsarles, have you tried with linux?
[01:40] <tlsarles> Jester45: thats like saying a wrench can't be used as a hammer
[01:40] <Googleplex12> noob: read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78337
[01:40] <lensy> my laptop is upgrading to hardy heron but it has just haleted at the "Setting up phpbb2-conf-mysql (2.0.22-3) stage
[01:40] <lensy> anyone have any ideas?
[01:40] <tlsarles> I run linux. I simply need to setup a VM for stuff wine won't run
[01:40] <piff> Noob: I am very drunk at the moment, but at the very basic... you need to assign an IP address to the computer you want to connext to
[01:40] <AJF355> chuck it out the window?
[01:40] <Magicdead> ntolo: does mysqld_safe word?
[01:40] <piff> tlsarles: everything?
[01:40] <nickrud> !piracy tlsarles
[01:40] <nickrud> !piracy | tlsarles
[01:40] <Jester45> tlsarles: just because you run linux doesnt mean you can do illegal stuff
[01:40] <lensy> !this topic
[01:41] <lensy> :P
[01:41] <lensy> !lensy
[01:41] <frreeeeee> I have a question, would this be a possible workaround to my problem, If i installed vmware and burned the files that are on my linux computer through a windows program would that work
[01:41] <piff> When did he discuss questionably legal practices?
[01:41] <lensy> the cheek!
[01:41] <AJF355> liol
[01:41] <AJF355> lol*
[01:41] <nickrud> piff wanting a key for xp
[01:41] <lensy> ubottu doesnt know me!
[01:41] <lensy> :O
[01:41] <Magicdead> ntolo: *work ^^
[01:41] <jant> noiq: stop harrassing me in query.
[01:41] <tlsarles> No, the two topics are irrelevant to one another. Guess I'll go before someone gets mad
[01:41] <nickrud> lensy see !botabuxse ;)
[01:41] <piff> nickrud: I didn't see that
[01:41] <Jester45> frreeeeee: no devices must work in the host before they can work in the guest
[01:41] <jant> noiq: ask you question here
[01:41] <AJF355> ubottu is a bot, right?
[01:41] <frreeeeee> dang
[01:41] <lensy> nickrud: dorry
[01:41] <AJF355> lol
[01:42] <lensy> sorry*
[01:42] <frreeeeee> it works, just not all the way
[01:42] <frreeeeee> i can stillread dvds fine and stuff
[01:42] <lensy> can someone help my my laptop will not upgrade, i dont want to have to start again with ubuntu
[01:42] <lensy> please help
[01:42] <Noob>      piff:how do i do that
[01:42] <nickrud> lensy what do you mean by not upgrading?
[01:43] <lensy> its halted at the upgrade for:
[01:43] <Googleplex12> lensy: sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:43] <niku> lensy: re-installing isn't like windows, your user data will be safe as long as it's in /home/ and you don't reformat
[01:43] <Jester45> frreeeeee: all i can suggest is google more and wait to see if a kernel update fixes this problem, also searhc for a bug as it might be fixable if you cant find one post one your self to get it fixed faster
[01:43] <AJF355> he'll loose his important files if he has to start over again so lensy rly needs u help guys
[01:43] <piff> Noob: What is the platform of the computer you're trying to connect to?
[01:43] <lensy> phpbb2-mysql- (2.0.22-3)
[01:43] <lensy> its halted there
[01:43] <lensy> it wont go any further
[01:43] <lensy> its just doing nothing
[01:43] <FloodBot1> lensy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:43] <frreeeeee> alright thanks
[01:43] <AJF355> oh go away floodbot
[01:43] <lensy> i cant logon as it is so its running in text only mode :(
[01:43] <nickrud> lensy do  sudo apt-get -f install, then if it fails, put the complete output on paste.ubuntu.com
[01:44] <lensy> uh-oh
[01:44] <lensy> the screen just went blank
[01:44] <lensy> and it wont comeback
[01:44] <lensy> oh
[01:44] <nickrud> lensy and you can install pastebinit to pastebin from the command line. Hit a key, that's probably just screen blanking
[01:44] <lensy> nvm
[01:44] <Noob>      piff:sorry as you might have suspected from my name im a noob what do you mean by platform
[01:44] <AJF355> damn & blast lensy
[01:44] <Jester45> lensy: try alt + F2 to get a new screen
[01:44] <lensy> ty
[01:45] <niku> or, if you're on a different machine, you could ssh to it, if that's been turned on
[01:45] <lensy> btw
[01:45] <nickrud> hm, install broken, no install of pastebinit (should be standard)
[01:45] <lensy> how do i paste the output
[01:45] <Jester45> Noob he means is it windows linux mac
[01:45] <lensy> im in text only
[01:45] <AJF355> rofl @ Noob (noobs crack me up sometimes as they ask the most basic questiions: What's a pc? I thought it was a computer!"
[01:45] <lensy> and i cant sshj onto it cos nothing dammed well works on it :'(
[01:45] <keithclark> Hi there, my laptop seems to be moving at a crawling speed and my CPU monitor shows it running at only 1 GHZ.  It is an AMD 64 3500+.  I'm not sure what is wrong but it is running really slowly.
[01:46] <piff> AJF355: Shut up, dumbarse
[01:46] <ntolo> Thanks guys,i forgot to change the ip address when i changed networks. It up and running fast ,mysql :)
[01:46] <AJF355> piss off
[01:46] <lensy> dont swar AJF355
[01:46] <Noob> linux and im not a noob to computers ingeneral just to linux
[01:46] <Jester45> lensy: try to install pastebinit it will let you paste in text only
[01:46] <lensy> yes...
[01:46] <piff> noob: You need to configure an IP address for the linux machine (if that's the computer you're trying to connect to)
[01:46] <bubaglobalJ> i ain't a noob either, but it all becomes relative, compared to these guys ;)
[01:46] <lensy> but
[01:47] <lensy> i cant get a webrowser in text only to paste bin to
[01:47] <lensy> :P
[01:47] <Jester45> why thanks you bubaglobalJ
[01:47] <Jester45>  :)
[01:47] <piff> noob: If you're using a graphical interface, try somewhere in the system settings
[01:47] <bubaglobalJ> does it matter, whether i burn the iso of the operating system on a dvd or cd for boot purposes and stuff, or no big deal?
[01:47] <nickrud> lensy run sudo apt-get -f install   , and if it fails, you're going to look for   post-installation script failed, or pre-install script failed, and let me know what it was
[01:47] <Noob> like dns???
[01:47] <lensy> can i ask a general question?
[01:47] <piff> Noob: Yes, including DNS
[01:47] <Jester45> lensy: you can use the web in text, the web is just fancy text to begin with but pastebinit is a program that will auto paste for you and give a url as output
[01:48] <lensy> if i were to re-install ubuntu 8.04 over linux 7.10 using a standard CD
[01:48] <piff> Noob: You have to set up the IP address, the gateway, and the DNS
[01:48] <lensy> would that keep all my files???
[01:48] <niku> lensy: try links
[01:48] <Noob> k in the event that that dosent work what could i do
[01:48] <nickrud> Jester45 he can't install pastebinit until he fixes apt ;)
[01:48] <piff> Noob: Both machines need an IP address at least
[01:48] <lensy> because i have alot of work onmy laptop that i need
[01:48] <MacIx> hello,  can anyone tell me how to install xlibs on 7.10 ? :(
[01:48] <lensy> if it gets erase im really in the shit so to speak
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> lensy Boot a live cd and back it up
[01:48] <nickrud> lensy there is a way to do that, but lets see if we can fix your system first
[01:48] <Jester45> lensy: you can pm me the spam i dont care
[01:48]  * bubaglobalJ will do some chores and try again (4th attempt) later
[01:48] <Jester45> ill paste it for you
[01:49] <piff> Noob: That will work.  If you have two computers physically connected with an ethernet cable, and both of them have IP addresses, and the firewall is off on both of them, then you should connect.
[01:49] <lensy> Jester45: the spam??
[01:49] <lensy> Jester45: im not spamming :P
[01:49] <Jester45> lensy: your apt-get output
[01:49] <piff> Noob: How are you 'connecting' btw?
[01:49] <Noob> where do i find the ip address dns and gateway
[01:49] <Jester45> ill paste your "spam" for you
[01:49] <lensy> ok
[01:49] <Jester45> pastebin that is
[01:49] <Noob> usb cable
[01:49] <lensy> but wont i have to type my ouput up on here :(
[01:49] <piff> Noob: It depends on what desktop you're using?
[01:50] <crbr> Hi all.. I'm having a problem getting my internal Ricoh webcam from a HP Pavillion DV6242 to work with Cheese & Canorama (though it works with aMSN). I have RTFM and searched Google to no avail; gstreamer-properties shows the proper INPUT, but shows bars/static for OUTPUT. ... Does anybody have any ideas?
[01:50] <nickrud> Noob ifconfig, cat /etc/resolv.conf, and route -n  respectively
[01:50] <piff> Noob: I've never used a USB cable.  Not sure that will work.  It might... but it might be easier to use an ethernet cable
[01:50] <greenthumb> howdy!
[01:50] <Jester45> lensy: oo that is true... type me the main parts of it
[01:50] <greenthumb> i've got a kernel question
[01:50] <lensy> ok
[01:50] <nickrud> lensy run sudo apt-get -f install, and tell me when it's done
[01:50] <lensy> Jester45: gimme the command again plz
[01:51] <Noob> ok i can do that too but ill be connecting directly to the modem
[01:51] <Jester45> lensy: you can leave out repeated stuff or verion number
[01:51] <lensy> k
[01:51] <Jester45> lensy: sudo apt-get -f install ?
[01:51] <lensy> ty
[01:52] <greenthumb> i've been trying to patch my wireless adapter to enable injection and all the tutorials say to upgrade to kernel 2.6.24-19, i can't find it anywhere
[01:52] <greenthumb> i've got 2.6.24-16 right now
[01:52] <Magicdead> greenthumb: ubuntu hardy?
[01:52] <greenthumb> yeah
[01:53] <amenado> greenthumb-> what is this injection about? to dos another network?
[01:53] <nickrud> !hardysources | greenthumb (make sure updates are checked)
[01:53] <Jester45> greenthumb: its in the repo.. im using it but it might be in proposed updates
[01:53] <greenthumb> ubottu: i'll take a look at that. i've updated using the updater
[01:53] <greenthumb> let me check the sources
[01:54] <nickrud> Jester45 apt-cache policy linux-image-2.6.24-19-generic tells you what repos it's in
[01:54] <norty> hi
[01:55] <norty> Question: I have an external harddrive that is formated for mac, I want to reformat it using Ubuntu , how do I do that? right now it says that there is something connected via USB but when I go to right click->mount volumn it doesn't do anything.. help?
[01:55] <xai> I'm trying to update edgy, but none of the repositories work now.. http://us.archive.ubuntu.com for example
[01:55] <Magicdead> greenthumb: it's in hardy-updates
[01:55] <nickrud> norty install gparted , and select the correct device in the upper right corner
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !eol
[01:55] <poseidon> norty, try nparted or whatever ubuntu's defualt partition manager is.
[01:56] <Magicdead> greenthumb:  http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates/main
[01:56] <xai> Is there a CLI tool for fixing the sources.list ??
[01:56] <norty> nickrud, is there a terminal command to install it?
[01:56] <nickrud> norty you don't have access to the software sources?
[01:56] <Jack_Sparrow> xai try this in a term   sudo update-manager -d
[01:56] <greenthumb> magicdead: thanks, i think that took care of it. i just overlooked that. Thanks guys!
[01:56] <nickrud> norty that is, you're not running gnome?
[01:57] <greenthumb> yeah, i've been missing out i see, 234 new updates
[01:57] <nickrud> norty sorry, brain fart.   sudo apt-get install gparted
[01:57] <poseidon> Are ubuntu releases directly related to debian releases/milestones?  ie two releases in between every new stable debian?
[01:57] <greenthumb> <----blind
[01:57] <keithclark> Please, anyone with ideas, my laptop is not unuseable. It seems to be moving at a crawling speed and my CPU monitor shows it running at only 1 GHZ.  It is an AMD 64 3500+.  I'm not sure what is wrong but it is running really slowly.
[01:57] <DroP-PSyChoSiS> any1 hear know how to run warcraft3 with no lag thro win ?
[01:58] <DroP-PSyChoSiS> wine*
[01:58] <Magicdead> poseidon: no, theres 2 ubuntu releases / year, 1 in april, one in octobre. i don't think they are dependent on debian releases
[01:58] <Jack_Sparrow> DroP-PSyChoSiS /join #winehq
[01:58] <greenthumb> keithclark: it maybe a bad idea, but i usually backup my info and do a format and reinstall at that point
[01:58] <nickrud> Magicdead yes, each release takes a snapshot of debian unstable, then builds on that
[01:58] <DroP-PSyChoSiS> kk ty
[01:58] <xai> Jack_Sparrow: yea but when I try to "check" i get the same errors as in "apt-get update"
[01:58] <Keith_M_> Anything that I run in OpenGL flickers, is there a fix for this?
[01:59] <keithclark> greenthumb: Yeah, I thought running Linux was supposed to stop that nonsense.
[01:59] <DroP-PSyChoSiS> ye
[01:59] <nickrud> Keith_M_ usually you have to disable compiz to get decent open gl in my experience
[01:59] <DroP-PSyChoSiS> its coz ur settings are set wrong
[01:59] <poseidon> Magicdead, what about the packages?  I'm pretty sure that ubuntu packages are dependent on debian packages.  Where do they take the packages from (from stable/unstable/testing/etc)
[01:59] <greenthumb> keithclark: i haven't had to do it since i switched over to Linux though, last time was in windoze
[01:59] <Keith_M_> nickrud: compiz ruins opengl?
[01:59] <DroP-PSyChoSiS> it flickers coz ur visuel effects are set to extra
[01:59] <DroP-PSyChoSiS> set it to noce
[01:59] <DroP-PSyChoSiS> none*
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> xai you would be better off with a fresh install of a new release.. there are lots of megs of dl's between where you are and the current release
[01:59] <nickrud> Keith_M_ it's been known to, yes
[02:00] <keithclark> greenthumb: this will be the third time for me.
[02:00] <n3kl> Hi.  I am brand new to ubuntu trying to setup wpa_supplicant.  I have install teh 8.4 er whatever the kde4 packages are.  I have copied over my interfaces file from a working debian install and setup the wpa_supplicant.conf.  Now it will not grab an address form dhcp once it connects to the network.  What is the problem?
[02:00] <nickrud> Keith_M_ if you're running compiz, try getting more info in #compiz-fusion
[02:00] <greenthumb> keithclark: ouch
[02:00] <poseidon> Compiz is horrible.  How do a bunch of psuedo bubbles help you effectivley work on your pc?
[02:00] <xai> Jack_Sparrow: I can't do that.. 2000 miles away.
[02:00] <keithclark> greenthumb: Yeah, I never did it once with XP.
[02:01] <grendal_prime> anyone got there 650 to work as a modem on there ubuntu machine?
[02:01] <nickrud> xai you can use old-releases.ubuntu.com to get the latest version of the update manager, then you should be able to upgrade. See the following
[02:01] <nickrud> !upgrade
[02:01] <Magicdead> poseidon: well some compiz stuff actually helps, like the one that arranges all windows. the rest is just to show of ;)
[02:01] <Jack_Sparrow> xai http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[02:02] <keithclark> greenthumb: nothing but problems since upgrading to 8.04.  I think this is Canonical's Vista
[02:02] <poseidon> Magicdead, I have dual screens so I don't have a problem with screen space.  I would rather show off my new rendering engine or 3d game instead ;)
[02:02] <Jack_Sparrow> keithclark Please take down the attitude a notch and ask your question if you are here for help
[02:02] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow you have issues with hardy?
[02:02] <poseidon> I like to show off my work, not others ;)
[02:03] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow I sure don't
[02:03] <keithclark> Jack_Sparrow: will do.
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud MOst of my boxes are still gutsy, I have a few hardy.. but no reason to change what is working fine for the most part
[02:03] <norty_> Help: when I use the command: sudo apt-get install it says "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg received a seg fault"
[02:03] <norty_> help!
[02:04] <Odd-rationale> norty_: make sure you have all other instances of apt closed
[02:04] <nickrud> norty_ what was the complete error? copy it to paste.ubuntu.com
[02:04] <poseidon> I only have to comps.  One with debina unstable/xp and another with KfreeBSD/ubuntu hardy :)
[02:04] <norty_> nickrud, that is the complete error
[02:04] <Odd-rationale> norty_: synaptic, add/remove, apt-get, aptitude, etc
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> norty_ What changes have you made to your sources.list
[02:04] <xai> Changed http to ftp in sources.list on edgy seems to work well.
[02:05] <cdavis> is there a problem with playing dvd's and hardy? I have not had problems before with ubuntu and playing dvd's
[02:05] <norty_> Jack_Sparrow, ive made no changes
[02:05] <SeaPhor> norty_, its looking for a cd, change in synaptics where to look
[02:05] <poseidon> cdavis, make sure you installed the appropriate codecs.  Google medibuntu
[02:06] <Jorg1> Anyone help with a Realtek RTL8197 WLAN card driver issue?
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> norty_ Can you pastebin it for us
[02:06] <norty_> Jack_Sparrow, pastebin what?
[02:06] <cdavis> poseidon, I have. libdvdcss2 same as I installed for feisty. I know get libdvdread: Error cracking CSS key for
[02:06] <poseidon> !rt2x00
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> norty_ Your sources.list
[02:07] <poseidon> Jorg1, what chip does it have?
[02:07] <nickrud> norty your /etc/apt/sources.list, and the complete run from the error:  including the command,   apt-get -f install
[02:07] <telmessos> hi all. I want to kill a process one hour after now. do you know the console command ?
[02:07] <norty_> Jack_Sparrow, where is that?
[02:08] <offline> i'm planning to get a brand new printer, what exactly printer brand that fully supported by ubuntu hardy ?
[02:08] <lastelement0> can someone that has CS:S working under 8.04 tell me what version of WINE they are using?
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> norty_ see what nickrud said
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !appdb > lastelement0
[02:08] <telmessos> I want to kill a process one hour after now. do you know the console command ?
[02:08] <Jorg1> poseidon: 8187. I tried using NDISwrapper to install a Win 98 driver but not getting anywhere. Very new to Linux.
[02:08] <SeaPhor> norty_, your /etc/apt/sources.list, and the complete run from the error:  including the command,   apt-get -f install
[02:08] <lastelement0> Jack_Sparrow: thanks but already been there
[02:09] <nickrud> offline   linuxprinting.org has the latest info
[02:09] <Jack_Sparrow> lastelement0 then /join #winehq for questions about wine
[02:09] <offline> nickrud: thank u very much
[02:09] <nickrud> telmessos  at <time> , enter the command (like killall appname), then hit ctl-d
[02:09] <admin_> Has anyone used SBM (Smart Boot Manager) ?
[02:10] <nickrud> telmessos atq  tells you what your queued at commands are
[02:10] <keithclark> My system is an AMD 64 3500+ and running very slowly.  The CPU monitor shows it running at 1 GHz.  The CPU load is at 100% all the time.  I don't know what to check next.
[02:10] <telmessos> nickrud: <time> is it in seconds or the computer time ?
[02:10] <nickrud> telmessos a time, like 1341
[02:11] <nickrud> keithclark   run  top  , see what's eating the cpu
[02:12] <telmessos> nickrud: I thought this is standard also for Pardus. there is no at in Pardus :(
[02:12] <nickrud> telmessos at is an ancient unix command ...
[02:12] <keithclark> nickrud: Xorg is running 50%, not much else
[02:12] <poseidon> Jorg1, you might be able to find a driver here for it.  http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
[02:13] <nickrud> keithclark hm, have you tried restarting your desktop?
[02:13] <telmessos> nickrud:  bash: at: command not found
[02:13] <telmessos> this is the message I get
[02:13] <telmessos> :)
[02:13] <nickrud> telmessos this is ubuntu?
[02:13] <keithclark> nickrud: yes, 4 times in the last two hours
[02:13] <telmessos> nickrud: I said pardus :)
[02:13] <nickrud> keithclark something is using the clock, so maybe gnome-system-monitor will tell you more
[02:13] <nickrud> telmessos then find a channel for pardus ;)
[02:14] <lastelement0> ﻿can someone who has CS:S working under ubuntu 8.04 tell me what version of wine
[02:14] <keithclark> nickrud: I tried that, but it is almost impossible to use.  It just keeps greying out.
[02:14] <telmessos> nickrud: it is 04:14. there's only one guy in the channel and he doesn't remember the command :D
[02:14] <nickrud> keithclark possibly try installing htop, it's like top but shows stuff a little better
[02:15] <keithclark> nickrud: in the repos?
[02:15] <nickrud> keithclark yep
[02:15] <tannji> Can someone help me with installing a driver? fetting an error I cant fix with my limited experience
[02:15] <keithclark> nickrud: will try, thanks.
[02:15] <tannji> *getting
[02:15] <nickrud> tannji what driver (you're gonna be lucky if it's one I'm familar with ;)
[02:16] <hash> hi
[02:16] <tannji> lol, XFI sound....
[02:16] <Jorg1> Poseidon: Thank you. I am checking it out now.
[02:16] <nickrud> tannji no offense, but I am running the other way ;P
[02:16] <tannji> lol
[02:16] <cdavis> I have installed xine-ui libdvdcss2 and regionset (and set my region to 1) now xine segfaults when trying to play a dvd
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> run and hide, run and hide
[02:16] <tannji> I dont need help with the driver per-say... just the error
[02:17] <xai> are all edgy repositories gone now?
[02:17] <hash> how to set up locales for firefox to pl-PL in ubuntu 8.04 PL HELP! ;)
[02:17] <nickrud> xai yes, it's now obsolete
[02:17] <xai> can I update it with a CD maybe?
[02:17] <Jack_Sparrow> xai I linked them for you
[02:17] <Jack_Sparrow> xai http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[02:17] <cdavis> I don't think I am missing anything because I did this exact thing on a feisty machine a week ago :(
[02:18] <tannji> I have a good read-me to follow, but I think I have a problem with where I have the driver saved, getting "no such directory"
[02:18] <crafteh> anybody know where pid files are?
[02:18] <crafteh> for daemons
[02:18] <xai> Jack_Sparrow: Thanks.. can I use those to upgrade?
[02:18] <xai> JackWinter: thanks I see that now.
[02:18] <tannji> I am not up to date on changing directories in terminal  =(\
[02:18] <crafteh> ah, nvm they're in /var/run
[02:18] <poseidon> Jorg1, This might also help.  I suggest you try the ones from the link I gave you earlier first, however.   http://www.ralinktech.com/ralink/Home/Support/Linux.html
[02:19] <hash> how to set up locales for firefox to pl-PL in ubuntu 8.04 PL? HELP! ;)
[02:19] <nickrud> xai https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades#Upgrading%20using%20the%20alternate%20CD/DVD
[02:20] <greenthumb> magicdead: sure enough, got the new one. thanks. i learn something new every other minute
[02:20] <Magicdead> greenthumb: your welcome
[02:20] <tannji> can anyone suggest what to do about this error?  " XFiDrv_Linux_US-1.04.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[02:20] <tannji> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[02:20] <tannji> tar: Child returned status 2
[02:20] <tannji> tar: XFiDrv_Linux_US-1.04/XFiDrv_Linux_US-1.04.tar.bz2: Not found in archive
[02:20] <tannji> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors"
[02:20] <FloodBot1> tannji: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:21] <tannji> oops
[02:21] <tannji> sorry  = )
[02:21] <ImMelody> I need some help, but wanted to preface that I'm  on my n800 so  my responses will be delayed.
[02:21] <Jack_Sparrow> tannji if you type ls do you see the file you are trying to extract
[02:21] <lensy> if i install ubuntu over an existing install will i loose home directories?
[02:21] <lensy> if i install ubuntu over an existing install will i loose home directories?
[02:21] <lensy> ooops
[02:21] <FloodBot1> lensy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:22] <lensy> accident
[02:22] <lensy> KAI?
[02:22] <cdavis> do I have to do anything other than regionset and set to 1?
[02:22] <Danish989> ok, can anyone help me? I'm completely clueless, I downloaded some login themes which are in tar.gz format but when I browse for themes in the 'login window' application, I can't install them
[02:22] <tannji> Jack: i get Desktop    Examples  Music     Public     Videos
[02:22] <tannji> Documents  GNUstep   Pictures  Templates
[02:22] <ImMelody> I got the nvidia x server  prrogram working on my computer afteer a lot of battle today. But noww that it's rrunning, my wireless drivers and sound ddrivers are not recognnized.
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Danish989 drag and drop the tar onto the login window
[02:23] <Danish989> Jack_Sparrow: woah .. that worked
[02:23] <nickrud> lensy yes, unless you take a couple steps
[02:23]  * Danish989 feels really stupid
[02:23] <tannji> I think I might need to change directories before I issue the tar command?
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[02:23] <Danish989> Jack_Sparrow: thank you :)
[02:24] <Danish989> I think because of this ubuntu channel, even if I have a problem that's really small, I don't bother looking around because I feel like coming here and asking someone
[02:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Any time, I like the easy questions
[02:24] <Magicdead> tannji: either that or give the full path to the file to the tar command. tar /path/to/file.tar
[02:24] <Danish989> on windows I would usually google, but I don't even think about that because of #ubuntu, hehe
[02:24] <ImMelody> Anyone have any idea what might have happened or  how to  fix it?
[02:25] <tannji> Magic:  I thot so... but I am not quite  up to speed on determining paths yet, or using cd to get where I want to
[02:25] <tannji> my driver is downloaded and extracted in a folder on the desktop
[02:26] <nickrud> tannji then cd ~/Desktop , ls , cd <dir>
[02:26] <tannji> if I get properties of that folder, that would tell me the path?
[02:26] <Magicdead> tannji: uhm theres an faq on console commands in the ubuntu-wiki and you can use tabcompletion for faster results ^^
[02:26]  * amireldor_ is away: I'm busy, sorry
[02:26] <tannji> Off to wiki I go.....  again  = )
[02:26] <cpare> anyone have time to help me get my SATA DVD drive working on x64 Heron?
[02:27]  * amireldor_ is back (gone 00:00:08)
[02:27]  * amireldor_ is away: I'm busy, sorry
[02:27]  * amireldor_ is back (gone 00:00:02)
[02:27] <tannji> can I do: ﻿~/Desktop , ls , cd <dir>  while logged as root?
[02:28] <nickrud> tannji you should do that as yourself, then once you're in the right dir, use sudo -i to do your work
[02:28] <amireldor_> tannji, yes
[02:28] <chalcedony> cpare: i can't get ours to see the web
[02:28] <amireldor_> tannji, use `sudo su` to get root terminal
[02:28] <stephen> join #openmoko
[02:28] <nickrud> amireldor_ you should recommend sudo -i, stays within the ubuntu security model
[02:28] <Magicdead> tannji: yes but with different results, ~ as root goes to /root, ~ as your regular user goes to /home/user
[02:28] <chalcedony> stephen: add a /
[02:29] <cpare> chalcedony - your on x64 server?
[02:29] <chalcedony> cpare: no
[02:29] <tannji> ok, sudo su to get root, and what to leave root?
[02:29] <cpare> x64 workstation then
[02:29] <chalcedony> trying a live cd even
[02:29] <tannji> will su work?
[02:29] <amireldor_> nickrud, thanks
[02:29] <nickrud> tannji you type exit to leave superuser status
[02:29] <Magicdead> tannji: yes, su <username>
[02:30] <tannji> ah!  lol, thanks
[02:30] <cpare> chalcedony - what live CD are you using?
[02:30] <amireldor_> tannji, use sudo -i instead of sudo su
[02:30] <tannji> kk, off to read
[02:30] <tannji> what is -i?
[02:30] <chalcedony> does anyone know the magic steps to get a laptop to see the www again? it's running Gutsy.
[02:30] <Starnestommy> tannji: interactive mode
[02:30] <tannji> so -i enters, or leaves interactive?
[02:30] <nickrud> tannji gives you an interactive sudo terminal, you don't have to type sudo for each command. Type exit when done
[02:30] <Josdell> hey everyone, i need some help, what is the best laptop ,at most $1000 or maybe a little bit more, that will work with Ubuntu Perfectly, right out of the box. I want Windows XP on it for some issues
[02:31] <Starnestommy> tannji: enters
[02:31] <chalcedony> cpare: my next step is going to be to make a new Hardy cd on this system, make sure the checksum is right and try it AGAIN
[02:31] <tannji> excellent... I need to print out console commands....  which I will do when I get the printer working, lol
[02:31] <nickrud> !laptop Josdell
[02:31] <nickrud> !laptop | Josdell
[02:31] <chalcedony> tannji: lol
[02:31] <cpare> chalcedony:  What CD are you using?
[02:32] <cpare> chalcedony: you may want to try the alternate CD
[02:32] <chalcedony> cpare: my husband had tried Gutsy, and Hardy but i don't know that the checksum was right
[02:32] <ImMelody> ; ; Then no one can help me??
[02:32] <cpare> chalcedony:  what type of NIC?
[02:33] <chalcedony> cpare: the mb has to have very new kernel.. i tried knoppix, a good cd and no go
[02:33] <cpare> chalcedony - or is it just the web, but everything else is good?
[02:33] <keithclark> nickrud: hmm..my problem may lay in a failed upgrade.....
[02:33] <chalcedony> cpare: it's a brand new system
[02:33] <cpare> chalcedony: can you do a ifconfig and get back a valid IP address?
[02:34] <chalcedony> sata drive
[02:34] <chalcedony> no
[02:34] <Magicdead> ImMelody: what's your problem?
[02:34] <viperserv2> hey
[02:34] <cpare> what is the out of the ifconfig?
[02:34] <viperserv2> anyone know where apt-get would put rtorrent dir?
[02:34] <chalcedony> dunno i'd have to go make my husband change computers at this point
[02:34] <cpare> chalcedony: what is the return of the ifconfig?
[02:34] <chalcedony> cpare: let me see if he will
[02:34] <cpare> chalcedony: that would be the first start
[02:35] <chalcedony> i was sort of hoping to work on the laptop first ;)
[02:35] <Magicdead> viperserv2: whereis rtorrent
[02:35] <cpare> chalcedony: we can see if the NIC is even identified
[02:35] <cpare> chalcedony: or if you have bigger issues...
[02:35] <chalcedony> cpare: i dont think it is
[02:35] <ImMelody> After getting thee nvidia x server  settinngs working, my wireless and sound drivers are no longer recognized.
[02:35] <chalcedony> it will be 30 days on the 4th .. i think newegg should take it back
[02:36] <cpare> chalcedony: Any chance you have and older card you could shove in it to get the updates?
[02:36] <cpare> chalcedony: as that may be all you need...
[02:36] <Magicdead> ImMelody: have you tried reinstalling them?
[02:36] <chalcedony> cpare: it's an onboard i think
[02:36] <chalcedony> goes to check
[02:36] <cpare> chalcedony: thats fine if it's onboard, you can add another...
[02:37] <ImMelody> I can't download anything.
[02:37] <Magicdead> ImMelody: why not?
[02:37] <ImMelody> Becausse my wireless isn't working
[02:37] <cpare> chalcedony: also - have you tried the x86 version, as it will still run on a x64 system...
[02:38] <craigbass1976> I'm following directions here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades  and not getting anywhere.  Trying to move from 6.06 to hardy.  All updated (Dapper updates) but when I hit the Check button after my system is up to date, I don't get any Upgrade to Hardy message
[02:38] <cdavis> I am sure that somehow the region is still not set on my drive, what else can I do to verify?  regionset says: drive plays discs from region(s): 1, mask=0xFE
[02:38] <Magicdead> ImMelody: yes but can't you download it wherever you're online now and burn it to cd/copy it on an usbstick ?
[02:38] <ImMelody> I'm on my nokia n800
[02:39] <Magicdead> ImMelody: oh ok... what about using the install-cd as packet-source?
[02:39] <cpare> <----  Needs help getting his SATA DVD to work in Hardy x64 Server
[02:39] <grendal_prime> im tryinging to forwared my local port 101 to port 102 through ssh...
[02:39] <chalcedony> cpare: i can add a different nic?
[02:40] <Jordan_U> Magicdead, You can only use the alternate CD as a Package repository
[02:40] <cpare> chalcedony: you prolly have an open pci slot
[02:40] <chalcedony> we broke his old nic, it didnt fit
[02:40] <grendal_prime> i thought it worked liek this...ssh -L 101:localhost:102 username@sshserver.com
[02:40] <cpare> chalcedony: so just plug one in...
[02:40] <ImMelody> Ok.
[02:40] <cpare> chalcedony: I have servers with 4 in them :)
[02:40] <grendal_prime> it is connecting but it is not forwarding port 102 back
[02:40] <chalcedony> cpare:  it's going to take a newer card i think
[02:41] <cpare> chalcedony: doubt it
[02:41] <cpare> chalcedony: as long as the card fits the bus, your good to go
[02:41] <chalcedony> it didn't
[02:41] <cdavis> do I have to set the region code in vlc as well because it sure seems like I have set the region code properly with regionjset
[02:41] <chalcedony> cpare: it was longer and needed something different at one end
[02:41] <cpare> chalcedony: you can get one at Best Buy, or CompUSA for under $20 easy
[02:41] <DIL> craigbass1976: updatemanager -d
[02:42] <DIL> craigbass1976: update-manager -d
[02:42] <Jordan_U> cdavis, No...
[02:42] <chalcedony> we probably have some somewhere .. i just didn't think of it
[02:42] <cpare> chalcedony: check your docs, is it a PCIe or PCI?
[02:42] <cpare> chalcedony: either way, there are cards out ther
[02:42] <Jordan_U> cdavis, Do you have libdvdcss2 installed?
[02:42] <n3kl> Is there any reason that wpa_supplicant would connect to the netowkr on boot, but not ask for dhcp?
[02:42] <nuno_nunes> HI PPL
[02:42] <craigbass1976> DIL, Ahhhhhhhhh
[02:42] <ImMelody> Actually, it's aable to see this as a harddrive, but I have nnoidea what to download or from where. I use ndiswrapper for my wireless and it still shows the network drrivers as installed.
[02:43] <cpare> chalcedony: dont forget the USB NIC option
[02:43] <DIL> craigbass1976: you may have to do gksudo
[02:43] <cpare> chalcedony: that has saved me more than once
[02:43] <craigbass1976> DIL, it's going.
[02:43] <cpare> chalcedony: it at least gets you in the net for your update
[02:43] <_xyz> im live ubuntu, trying to share a folder on my WinXP hdd on a Samba network (samba package is installed), but when I right click for it to be shared, it says that I need root access.. I think i need to mount it via terminal then, but don't know how.
[02:43] <craigbass1976> DIL, what was the -d for?
[02:43] <craigbass1976> DIL, because the site didn't say that
[02:43] <cdavis> Jordan_U, yes, I have that installed, it plays soft of but I can tell it is encrypted still. vlc errors with region issues
[02:43] <Magicdead> ImMelody: uhm is there any specific error when you load the drivers?
[02:44] <acid-trip> how do i search and see what php i have installed
[02:44] <Jordan_U> craigbass1976, -d is for installing a development release
[02:44] <cpare> <---  Needs help getting his SATS DVD drive working on x64 server Heron
[02:44] <Jordan_U> craigbass1976, I am guessing that you do *not* want to do that
[02:44] <ImMelody> No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found. (For the sound)
[02:45] <acp_> hi can you recommend a good book that has all types of server configuration for ubuntu? Im setting up a home office
[02:45] <Magicdead> acid-trip: "dpkg -l |grep php" <-- everything with an "ii" in front is installed. or if php is working create an empty php-file with <?php php_info(); ?> in it and acces the file
[02:45] <ImMelody> lspci  DOES see it though.
[02:45] <cpare> <----  Needs help getting his SATA DVD to work in Hardy x64 Server
[02:45] <cdavis> Jordan_U, hmm, I think I figured it out, I deleted the .dvdcss directory which had created "stuff" before I set the region code on my dvd rom, that seems to have fixed it. except vlc drops me b back to the menu when tryin gto move chapters
[02:45] <ImMelody> And one sec for the network stuff
[02:46] <craigbass1976> Jordan_U, well, I need to get out of dapper
[02:46] <amirman84> ﻿i checked wikipedia but the information there is too convulated to make sense to me. what is the real difference between cat5 and cat6? is there one of these i should NOT get for connecting a hard drive enclosure to my wireless router?
[02:46] <craigbass1976> Jordan_U, and don't really feel like reinstalling
[02:46] <Jordan_U> craigbass1976, Then just do "update-manager" do NOT put a -d at the end
[02:46] <DIL> craigbass1976: -d = checks for the latest release
[02:46] <chalcedony> cpare: what he has is: ASUS M3N78-EMH HDMI
[02:46] <craigbass1976> Jordan_U, update-manager wasn't giving me the option to upgrade
[02:47] <pppoe_dude> hello. how tricky is it to install ubuntu from a local partition
[02:47] <ImMelody> And then it says "No network devicess have beeen found." For the network... But
[02:47] <Jordan_U> DIL, No, it means check for the newest DEVELOPMENT release, which is currently very unstable
[02:47] <Magicdead> ImMelody: does you nokia have a browser?
[02:47] <acid-trip> Magicdead, ok  now when i try to run dpkg-reconfigure php5-common
[02:47] <acid-trip> it doesn't allow me
[02:47] <DIL> Jordan_U: my bad
[02:47] <Jordan_U> craigbass1976, Then add "-c"
[02:48] <Magicdead> acid-trip: sudo ? or is there an error?
[02:48] <ImMelody> When I go to Wireless Instaalleed Windows Drivers it lists that the driverr iss installed.
[02:48] <cpare> chalcedony:  Your golden then, as this board has 2 PCI slots
[02:48] <ImMelody> Yes it does.
[02:48] <acid-trip> nope it just runs then nothing pops up
[02:48] <cpare> chalcedony: As long as you have a PCI NIC
[02:48] <Magicdead> ImMelody: then maybe this http://tinyurl.com/5gluqq might be of help to you (tinyurl for your convenience ;) )
[02:48] <gogi`> hello
[02:48] <DIL> craigbass1976: or --dist-upgrade
[02:48] <gogi`> someone pleaseeeeee help me.  grub is kicking my ass.  and it hurts.
[02:49] <ImMelody> Thanks so much!
[02:49] <cpare> chalcedony:  THe two white slots
[02:49] <gogi`> summary of my problem: I have XP installed in one hdd and I just installed ubuntu in another hdd.  I went through the setup process and all but when grub comes up and asks what I want to load and I select ubuntu it gives me an error 22
[02:50] <gogi`> I've tried booting from the live CD and doing the sudo grub , find blah/stage1 , root (hd0,1) , setup (hd0)
[02:50] <Starnestommy> gogi`: you probably have grub set to use the wrong partitions
[02:50] <gogi`> according to the forum posts I've found that should solve the problem!  but it doesn't
[02:50] <xenoglossia> I'm dual-booting Win2K and Ubuntu 8.04, and (after fooling around with a Live USB), I get this error message when I try to boot into Windows via GRUB: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23323/.  I'm told that I replaced the Windows bootloader with Syslinux (by the way, I'm a total novice with Linux).  I don't have my Windows CD anymore.  Is there anything I can do?
[02:51] <craigbass1976> DIL, again, why isn't this stuff on the site I posted... weird.  the dist-upgrade would have been a lot easier than all the GUI farting around
[02:51] <gogi`> Starnestommy: how would I go about setting it to use the right partitions?
[02:51] <gogi`> It's really kind of frustrating because I thought ubuntu was supposed to be idiot-proof :(
[02:51] <Magicdead> acid-trip: well it seems there are no options for that package, at least the command doesn't do anything for me either ;)
[02:51] <SeaPhor> Starnestommy, what is the cmd for updating the sources, or extras,, sorry having a hrd time remembering
[02:51] <Jordan_U> xenoglossia, Yes, you can either try to get grub working or install the windows bootloader from ubuntu with the ms-sys package
[02:51] <amireldor_> xenoglossia, seems like you messed up something in /boot
[02:51] <Starnestommy> SeaPhor: sudo apt-get update?
[02:52] <cpare> <----  Needs help getting his SATA DVD to work in Hardy x64 Server
[02:52] <boaz> I have 4 hard drives. I want to reinstall Ubuntu on one drive, and put Windows XP on a different drive, so as to be able to dual boot. However, since I have been experimenting with Ubuntu, XP does not recognize that my hard drives exist. Any advice as to what I need to do to accomplish this goal?
[02:52] <Jordan_U> xenoglossia, Syslinux is usually only used for liveCD / liveDVD's so I would try installing GRUB first
[02:53] <Magicdead> ImMelody: but you better ask someone else about your ndiswrapper problem
[02:53] <xenoglossia> Great, thanks!  I'll look into ms-sys, but in the meanwhile, how would I go about fixing grub?  Should I reinstall grub?
[02:53] <DIL> boaz
[02:53] <chalcedony> cpare: i appreciate your help very much .. maybe nobody is here right now that knows about your problem
[02:53] <Jordan_U> xenoglossia, It seems that you don't have grub installed in the first place, you have syslinux installed
[02:54] <DIL> boaz:are they formatted - xp may not see ext3
[02:54] <cpare> chalcedony:  Looks that way
[02:54] <SeaPhor> Starnestommy, yes but was more,,, and i cant remember, was for restricted drivers and multiverse stuff, i'm sorry i should have noted it
[02:54] <cpare> chalcedony:  I am gonna end up fighting it on my own
[02:54] <Jordan_U> xenoglossia, How did you install Ubuntu?
[02:54] <xenoglossia> Well when I turn on my computer, I get the grub menu, and I can boot into Ubuntu just fine, but I can't boot into Windows
[02:54] <cpare> chalcedony: But there are always forums :)
[02:54] <chalcedony> cpare: i'd suggest trying tomorrow during the day (usa) and probably monday.. you want the guys who work in it
[02:54] <nuno_nunes> HI PPL
[02:55] <xenoglossia> Jordan_U,  I installed Ubuntu via Live CD
[02:55] <chalcedony> cpare: there are often very knwledgable people around
[02:55] <xenoglossia> . . . if that's what you mean . . . :)
[02:55] <cpare> chalcedony: Thanks
[02:55] <boaz> DIL, two are formatted for ext3. Two are former phony raid drives, formatted for RAID.
[02:56] <gogi`> so uhm...anyone...grub problem?
[02:56] <KRaZy_WaKa> wols_ ok i totally killed my ubuntu install now it wont boot but windows still does, i'm ready to dual-boot the easy way
[02:56] <DIL> boaz:xp will not see ext3
[02:56] <chalcedony> the darned laptop lost it's wifi connection again.. and that was what i was trying to restore
[02:56] <Jordan_U> xenoglossia, Is Windows on a separate drive?
[02:56] <cpare> <----  Needs help getting his SATA DVD to work in Hardy x64 Server
[02:56] <gogi`> please....pretty please....?
[02:56] <evanwang> XP can see ext3
[02:57] <chalcedony> cpare: what have you done so far on it? the cd/dvd wasn't that hard to do on my husband's
[02:57] <boaz> DIL, if I make new partitions, but don't format them, will XP see them then?
[02:57] <chalcedony> gogi`: it works best if you say what the problem IS
[02:58] <gogi`> chalcedony I did earlier, but here it is again: I have XP installed in one hdd and I just installed ubuntu in another hdd.  I went through the setup process and all but when grub comes up and asks what I want to load and I select ubuntu it gives me an error 22
[02:58] <DIL> boaz: i did not think xp could see ext3 file system nut evanwang is saying otherwise
[02:58] <gogi`> I've tried booting from the live CD and doing the sudo grub , find blah/stage1 , root (hd0,1) , setup (hd0)
[02:58] <gogi`> but it doesn't fix anything
[02:58] <Starnestommy> gogi`: you'll need to change the root settings in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:58] <xenoglossia> Jordan_U, I repartitioned my hard drive, yes.  If it helps, here is the output of sudo fdisk -l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23415
[02:58] <chalcedony> :)
[02:59] <Jordan_U> boaz, You can get windows to read  write to ext3 with http://www.fs-driver.org/
[02:59] <Magicdead> xenoglossia: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#DOS_002fWindows maybe this helps :)
[02:59] <evanwang> we can use software names explorer2fs
[02:59]  * DIL but not nut
[02:59] <gogi`> Starnestommy, I'm pretty dumb at this stuff...do you think you could tell me exactly how I do that, and what I change it to :)
[03:00] <gogi`> I booted back into XP, so I'll have to go back into the live cd to do it
[03:00] <boaz> Jordan_U, can Ubuntu read NTFS file system?
[03:00] <Starnestommy> gogi`: you'll also need to replace (hd0,1) with (hd<hard-disk-number>,<partition-number>)
[03:00] <xenoglossia> Magicdead, Thanks!
[03:00] <Magicdead> boaz: it can
[03:00] <Starnestommy> gogi`: i.e. (hd2,6) for disk 2 partition 6
[03:00] <DIL> boaz: with ntfs3g
[03:01] <th0r> Starnestommy, I think disk2 partition6 would be hd1,5
[03:01] <Jordan_U> boaz, Yes
[03:01] <gogi`> Okay...
[03:01] <gogi`> I will try do to that
[03:01] <gogi`> Oh, how would I even edit the file?
[03:01] <gogi`> Is there a notepad type thing around...lol
[03:02] <xenoglossia> Jordan_U, do you think installing ms-sys will help?
[03:02] <Psico-trash> ALGUMA MINA DO BRASIL?
[03:02] <Psico-trash> QUERO TC?
[03:02] <Psico-trash> ALGUEM?
[03:02] <deejaypip> Hi, I'm trying to play DVDs. This is what happened when I tried to install medibuntu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23417/
[03:02] <Starnestommy> !br | Psico-trash
[03:02] <Jordan_U> xenoglossia, Possibly
[03:03] <deejaypip> gogi, there's texteditor
[03:03] <boaz> Magicdead and Jordan, if I delete the present partitions on drives, will XP then be able to see them?
[03:03] <PPKuma> hi, what does win+n and win+m do?
[03:03] <Jordan_U> xenoglossia, Odd, it seems like ms-sys isn't in the Hardy repos
[03:03] <KRaZy_WaKa> i am running a dual-boot system with ubuntu and windows on separate drives, i installed ubuntu first and windows xp home second couldnt get windows to boot without changing the drive boot sequence, reinstalled grub, added a windows stanza but to no avail, tried to fix it and now when i boot with my ubuntu drive first it just gives me the grub> command line tried to reinstall grub again per the instructions on Recovering Grub 
[03:03] <gogi`> awesome thanks
[03:03] <gogi`> I will try that and come back crying if it doesn't work :)
[03:04] <Psico-trash> Starnestommy, blz mano
[03:04] <Psico-trash> Starnestommy, como vai..
[03:04] <Psico-trash> Starnestommy: como vai..
[03:05] <chalcedony> Psico-trash: wait till he looks back here
[03:05] <_xyz> could anyone give an example of a custom implementation of this line: '//$SERVER/$SHARE $MOUNTPOINT $FS_TYPE credentials=$SMB_CREDENTIALS,uid=$UID,gid=$GID' ?
[03:05] <Magicdead> Jordan_U: it's only in dapper, feisty and gutsy...
[03:06] <phung> SCIM used to show up in the top panel (Hardy alpha/beta) but not anymore. Anyone know how to bring that back?
[03:07] <xenoglossia> Jordan_U, So what would you recommend doing?  Thanks again!
[03:08] <Mechyuske> All right, so I installed ubuntu on an external HDD, and it boots up fine on my desktop. But when I boot it on my laptop, it says operating system not detected. How do I fix this?
[03:08] <boaz> Which desktop has the largest user base? gnome or kde?
[03:08] <Jordan_U> xenoglossia, I am not sure, do you have your bootable USB drive plugged in when you try to boot windows?
[03:08] <Jordan_U> boaz, I would guess gnome
[03:09] <xenoglossia> Jordan_U, no.  I have nothing plugged in.  Also, apparently, ms-sys was removed due to copyright infringement.
[03:09] <boaz> Thanks, Jordan_U.
[03:09] <PPKuma> hi, what does win+n and win+m do?
[03:10] <michael> olá
[03:10] <michael> tem alguém do brasil ai ?
[03:10] <PPKuma> !br | michael
[03:10] <michael> oláááá´aáááaá
[03:11] <boaz> DIL and Magicdead, thanks for the help.
[03:11] <ray_> hi any one know of in ubuntu 8 a good avi editor and to make avi to wave thanks in ubuntu 8?
[03:11] <Broken-arrow> hey guys were dose ubuntu store its install binarys?
[03:11] <Broken-arrow> like for your programs
[03:11] <Starnestommy> Broken-arrow: /usr/bin
[03:11] <michael> legal esse negócio de irc
[03:11] <DroP-PSyChoSiS> ok when i set my visual effects up my pc starts lagging ?
[03:12] <DroP-PSyChoSiS> wounder y
[03:12] <Broken-arrow> thanx
[03:12] <michael> pt-br?
[03:12] <Broken-arrow> thanx st
[03:12] <Mechyuske>  All right, so I installed ubuntu on an external HDD, and it boots up fine on my desktop. But when I boot it on my laptop, it says operating system not detected. How do I fix this? Or how do I install windows xp/vista onto an external hdd?
[03:12] <nickrud> Broken-arrow you mean the packages it downloads, then installs? /var/cache/apt/archives
[03:12] <Starnestommy> DroP-PSyChoSiS: compiz, the program that does those visual effects, needs a lot of memory and cpu power to make those effects
[03:12] <ray_> any one here know in ubuntu 8 a good avi editor and a avi to wave as a way file so i can get avi off a sd card and save them to wave once edit them in ubuntu 8?
[03:12] <ray_> thanks
[03:12] <michael> alguém ai tem msn ?
[03:13] <xenoglossia> michael, #ubuntubrasil-orkut
[03:13] <ray_> !spanish
[03:13]  * amireldor_ is away: I'm busy, sorry
[03:13] <michael> #ubuntubrasil-orkut
[03:13] <ray_> any one here see my q? :(
[03:13] <boaz> What is the safest (least likely to lose data) file system?
[03:13] <nickrud> !away > amireldor_
[03:13] <cafree> Anyone ever tried LVM striping to increase disk performance?  I'm debating trying it with some new disks I got
[03:13] <DroP-PSyChoSiS> but it was working fine
[03:14] <xenoglossia> Jordan_U, Thanks!  I have to go now, though.  I will be back . . . :)
[03:14] <ray_> any one here seer my text way up there? :(
[03:14] <himynameis> hi, i have a bunch of questions for you wonderful people out there, and I thank you ahead of time, I do appreciate your help.  So first off,  the little bar at the top of all of my windows, which usually holds the close, maximize, and minimize buttons is gone and i cannot click it and drag the window around.  how do i fix that?
[03:14] <DroP-PSyChoSiS> then i update from wine 0.9.59 to wine 1.0
[03:14] <DroP-PSyChoSiS> try and boot up war3
[03:14] <ray_> see no one willing to help :(
[03:14] <DroP-PSyChoSiS> and my resolution and desktop starts lagging
[03:14] <nickrud> himynameis try   alt-f2  gtk-window-decorator --replace
[03:14] <ray_> im must be dead lol
[03:14] <nickrud> ray_ I would, but have no answer ;p
[03:14] <Mr_Giraffe> does anybody know why when i hit ctrl-alt f1-f6 enter the TTYs?
[03:14] <ray_> any one eles
[03:14] <ray_> herfe
[03:15] <Mr_Giraffe> er, why when i hit ctrl-alt f1-f6 to enter the TTYs nothing happens?
[03:15] <ray_> here
[03:15] <amireldor_> nickrud, my real nickname is amireldor not amireldor_ it's a bug in xchat
[03:15] <Mr_Giraffe> the screen turns black but that's it
[03:15] <gogi`> Hello I am back
[03:15] <gogi`> There is no file /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:15] <nickrud> amireldor_ ok, I was interested in the away message. You got it :)
[03:15] <amireldor_> nickrud, i get you :)
[03:15] <KRaZy_WaKa> Jordan_U: anybody see my dual-boot dilemma? if so any advice?
[03:15] <Mr_Giraffe> !ttry
[03:15] <ray_> any one eles see my q?
[03:15] <Mr_Giraffe> !tty
[03:15] <KRaZy_WaKa> sorry Jordan that was meant for the whole room
[03:16] <boaz> ray_, ask each question separately, and if someone knows the answer they will help you.
[03:16] <bsusa> hello
[03:16] <himynameis> nickrud which moves into the next problem.  My terminal is now completely white.  nothing. just a white useless space.
[03:16] <amireldor_> i've found a great tutorial about cinerella: http://akiradproject.net/cinelerra_is_very_easy_1
[03:16] <nickrud> amireldor_ you probably had a stray amireldor on freenode, try changing your nick now. Or, /msg nickserv ghost <nick> password
[03:17] <nickrud> himynameis type blindly in a terminal,   gedit  . Does the program open?
[03:17] <gogi`> um....who was helping me with the grub problem earlier....I totaly forgot the nick :(
[03:17] <himynameis> yes
[03:17] <ray_> ok here gose what a good avi editor to get avi off a sd card my caera taken? also i like to know what a good avi editor to save the avi to wave so can play inb my windows system? i have ubuntu 8
[03:17] <nickrud> himynameis settings->current profile, colors
[03:18] <MrLinux-> Hello, I have a problem with my Ubuntu 7.04
[03:18] <bsusa> Could somone please help me. I am trying to apply themes on my Compiz using Emerald. I have imported the theme in emerald, but wheni apply it the only thing that changes is the window borders and shadowing. How do i make the entire theme take into effect?
[03:18] <gogi`> .
[03:18] <gogi`>  Ryuho (n=ryuho@24-205-235-2
[03:18] <gogi`> .
[03:18] <gogi`>  Ryuho (n=ryuho@24-205-235-2
[03:18] <FloodBot1> gogi`: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:18] <nickrud> himynameis erm, edit -> current profile that is
[03:18] <Mechyuske>  All right, so I installed ubuntu on an external HDD, and it boots up fine on my desktop. But when I boot it on my laptop, it says operating system not detected. How do I fix this? Or how do I install windows xp/vista onto an external hdd?
[03:18] <gogi`> uh sorry!
[03:18] <gogi`> jeez
[03:18] <ray_> any one see my q
[03:18] <MrLinux-> /usr/local/share/fonts: failed to write cache
[03:18] <MrLinux-> /var/lib/defoma/fontconfig.d: failed to write cache
[03:18] <MrLinux-> /var/lib/defoma/fontconfig.d/A: failed to write cache
[03:18] <MrLinux-> /var/lib/defoma/fontconfig.d/B: failed to write cache
[03:18] <MrLinux-> /var/lib/defoma/fontconfig.d/C: failed to write cache
[03:18] <FloodBot1> MrLinux-: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:18] <gogi`> sorry about that :(
[03:19] <chalcedony>  sudo /etc/init.d/interfaces restart. Command not found
[03:19] <gogi`> .
[03:19] <gogi`>  Ryuho (n=ryuho@24-205-235-2
[03:19] <gogi`> OMG wtf...
[03:19] <nickrud> chalcedony networking restart
[03:19] <gogi`> does clicking both mouse buttons paste or something?
[03:19] <nickrud> gogi` yep
[03:19] <Magicdead> bsusa: in compiz settings -> window decorations, theres a field for the past, enter "/usr/bin/emerald" there and restart compiz/gnome
[03:19] <gogi`> haha
[03:19] <gogi`> weird
[03:19] <gogi`> ok I will refrain from doing that
[03:19] <nickrud> gogi` a unix copy paste is simply highlight the text, then click middle button (or both, if enabled that way)
[03:20] <ray_> any one have idea for my for my q
[03:20] <himynameis> nickrud  is that "edit -> current provile"?
[03:20] <MrLinux-> Can someone please help me ?
[03:20] <gogi`> didn't know that nickrud
[03:20] <nickrud> himynameis yes, I corrected that but a little late ;)
[03:20] <himynameis> nickrud *profile
[03:20] <gogi`> Anyways, I was told to fix my grub error 22 problem I have to go to the live CD and edit tye /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:20] <Kira> I'm confused.
[03:20] <bsusa> sry how do i restrat compiz gnome, u mean close the prog then re open?
[03:20] <shingalated> me too
[03:20] <gogi`> except that file doesn't exist!
[03:20] <chalcedony> MrLinux-: what were you trying to do ?
[03:20] <himynameis> nickrud it doesnt do anything
[03:20] <nickrud> gogi` it would be on the partition you installed linux to
[03:21] <ray_> see no one saw my q
[03:21] <MrLinux-> chalcedony: I just typed 'apt-get upgrade'
[03:21] <ray_> so im out of luck not cant do anything :(
[03:21] <chalcedony> ray_: take 3 deep breaths
[03:21] <ray_> chal o ok
[03:21] <gogi`> how would I .... uh.... get to the partition I installed linux to?
[03:21] <chalcedony> :)
[03:21] <ray_> just realy upsetrting
[03:21] <chalcedony> MrLinux-: ouch
[03:21] <ImMelody> Okay.. I forgot who was helping me before, but that didn't work.. But I have a feeling the reason it didn't work is because I still have no wireless drivers.
[03:21] <nickrud> himynameis ok, close all the terminals, then ctl-alt-f2, log in, then type  gconftool --recursive-unset  /apps/gnome-terminal . Then ctl-alt-f7 to get back. That resets all the gnome-terminal settings. Seems likely that you're using white text on white background
[03:21] <gogi`> There is no 'linux partition' button :(
[03:21] <Magicdead> bsusa: either do compiz --replace & and emerald --replace & or hit CTRL+Alt+Backspace
[03:21] <chalcedony> MrLinux-: did you google that error?
[03:21] <__yy_> gogi`: you need to mount it
[03:22] <MrLinux-> chalcedony: No I did'nt
[03:22] <ray_> chalcedony can you help me with my q
[03:22] <gogi`> would it just be mount /dev/sda2 ?
[03:22] <ScottLij> MrLinux, did you try doing 'sudo apt-get upgrade'?
[03:22] <Magicdead> ImMelody: i was helping you with the sound. but i can't help you with ndiswrapper, sorry
[03:23] <ImMelody> alright
[03:23] <__yy> gogi`: mount /dev/sda2 /some/empty/folder
[03:23] <nickrud> gogi` sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt , then it should be at /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:23] <chalcedony> MrLinux-:  http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=failed+to+write+cache&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[03:23] <ImMelody> Can anyone help me with the ndiswrapper issue?
[03:23] <gogi`> okay I will do that now
[03:23] <ray_> chalcedony can you help me with my8 q's?
[03:24] <JerseyMonkey-S> Hello, I'm trying to display Japanese characters on my machine. I'm currently running a session through SSH and am using a UTF-8 enabled 'screen' session. What is required to display Japanese?
[03:24] <chalcedony> ray_: did you try Audacity?
[03:24] <chalcedony> it works on both linux and windows
[03:24] <gogi`> that....did not work
[03:24] <andy_> My usb ports died...
[03:24] <ray_> chalcedony i have avi on sd card need avi edtor so can play my avi that my camorder took so can play it in my windows system
[03:25] <KRaZy_WaKa> !medibuntu
[03:25] <gogi`> I did exactly: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt but there's nothing in /mnt
[03:25] <ray_> or save to somthing to play in windows system
[03:25] <ray_> i have ubuntu 8
[03:25] <nickrud> gogi` did you get an error?
[03:25] <gogi`> no error
[03:25] <chalcedony> ray_: i had to scroll way back to find your actual question
[03:25] <ray_> chalcedony understand now
[03:25] <nickrud> gogi` ls /mnt
[03:25] <ray_> i reposted it
[03:26] <gogi`> nickrud: sorry?  /mnt is empty when I browse to it
[03:26] <mtx1> when installing grub i try find /boot/grub/stage1 and get Error 15: File not found i have been searching and trying stuff for 4 hrs now and cannot get grub installed, when i reinstall ubuntu it comes up with the same exact problem again. anyone know what would be causing this?
[03:26] <ray_> chalcedony any idea for me?
[03:26] <keithclark> Why would my On Demand indicator only be at 45% or 1 GHz all the time?
[03:26] <chalcedony> ray_: tell us which of these comes close: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&hs=XZ5&q=avi+ubuntu+hardy&btnG=Search
[03:26] <nickrud> gogi` try  mount   , that will list all the mounts. Make sure that sda2 is mounted on mount. If it is, and ls /mnt shows nothing, then there's nothing in the dir
[03:27] <andy_> has anyone else had their usb ports not work right on 64 bit hardy?
[03:27] <bsusa> Magicdead: Do i enter that where it says "Command" or "Decoration Windows"?
[03:27] <nickrud> gogi` s/dir/partition/
[03:27] <gogi`> when I type mount I get a line saying "/dev/sda2 on /mnt type ext3 (rw)"
[03:27] <PPKuma> hi, what does win+n and win+m do?
[03:28] <andy_> PPKuma, it depends
[03:28] <nickrud> gogi` good. Now, ls /mnt . If there's nothing there, there's nothing on partition /dev/sda2
[03:28] <__yy> PPKuma: press them and find out?
[03:28] <KRaZy_WaKa> i am trying to dual boot i have windows on my slave drive and installed it after ubuntu, what i am wondering is if i either reinstall ubuntu on my primary master will it eliminate my dual-boot grub problems? hoping to redo it the easy way without having to reinstall both
[03:28] <ray_> chalcedony not sure i have avi i need to save as video one edit them fot windows system not sure
[03:28] <Magicdead> bsusa: let me check
[03:28] <andy_> Krazy, you probably wanted to install windows xp first
[03:28] <KRaZy_WaKa> or can i do a repair install on ubuntu? if so how could i do that?
[03:28] <PPKuma> __yy: the screen turns black, i want to know what kind of feature is thi and where i can configure it
[03:28] <gogi`> no there's stuff there...
[03:28] <PPKuma> andy_ depends on what?
[03:28] <gogi`> oh wtf...
[03:28] <ray_> chalcedony what recamend for me on ubuntu 8
[03:29] <__yy> KRaZy_WaKa: ubuntu is pretty good about detecting windows and putting an option in the grub menu
[03:29] <gogi`> uh in terminal it sees lotsa things
[03:29] <andy_> What you set them to.  You can key binding
[03:29] <Magicdead> bsusa: enter "/usr/bin/emerald --replace" into command, yes (without the quotes, of course)
[03:29] <andy_> shit wiath
[03:29] <nickrud> gogi` try browsing there again
[03:29] <andy_> wait...  Like for me they are my maximize and minimize buttons from compiz
[03:29] <Kira> I just installed the freenx server. I try to add a user to the nxserver, but it tells me that that permission is denied to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2
[03:29] <chalcedony> ray_: is there a ubuntu channel for the language you speak?
[03:29] <Kira> the command was already invoked with sudo. What's going on?
[03:29] <gogi`> ahh now it's working
[03:29] <gogi`> so weird
[03:30] <ray_> chalcedony im a disability person and in usa
[03:30] <ray_> sorry
[03:30] <gogi`> I think I was just being dumb
[03:30] <chalcedony> ray_: me too
[03:30] <JerseyMonkey-S> Can anyone help me get Japanese text through terminal?
[03:30] <chalcedony> :)
[03:30] <nickrud> gogi` after you mounted it, you need to browse away and back. Nautilus was still looking at the empty /mnt
[03:30] <andy_> anyway, krazy, you can't really get back to ubuntu if you installed it before xp unless you replace the MBR XP setup with grub
[03:30] <gogi`> ooh okay
[03:30] <gogi`> Thanks nickrud
[03:30] <nickrud> !fixmbr
[03:30] <__yy> Kira: sounds like root doesn't have read permission on that file
[03:30] <ray_> chalcedony o ok what recamend for my to use what program?
[03:30] <KRaZy_WaKa> __yy yeah i'm aware of that, i messed it up and did it backwards and made it worse than it was when i installed windows
[03:31] <gogi`> Okay so when I'm editing the menu.lst file
[03:31] <gogi`> Do I just want to change the part that says root (hd0,1) or what...
[03:31] <bsusa> Magicdead: Ok, now how do i restart compiz/gnone, u mean just reboot pc?
[03:31] <Kira> __yy: well, to begin with, authorized_keys2 never existed in ~/.ssh; and ~/.ssh is owned by root:root anyway.
[03:31] <gogi`> according to fdisk -l my linux drive is in /dev/sda2
[03:31] <andy_> ctrl + alt + backspace
[03:32] <nickrud> gogi` so you should see boot in /mnt , so cd /mnt/boot/grub , ls . You should see the menu.lst
[03:32] <ray_> chalcedony still here with me?
[03:32] <gogi`> nickrud: I'm looking at the file now in Notepad
[03:32] <dunas> Is there an apt-get for Java Plugins for Firefox?
[03:32] <ne0sonic> .
[03:32] <nickrud> gogi` notepad!!!
[03:32] <gogi`> I'm just not sure what I need to change
[03:32] <nickrud> gogi` you mean gedit I hope.
[03:32] <nickrud> gogi` or Text Editor
[03:33] <gogi`> um...I typed notepad in the terminal and it gave me a command to install wine
[03:33] <gogi`> and then notepad came with it?
[03:33] <gogi`> lol
[03:33] <__yy> KRaZy_WaKa: what I meant was as long as windows is installed now you should be able to reinstall ubuntu over the current ubuntu install and have your boot menu fixed automagically .. that will work
[03:33] <nickrud> gogi` don't use notepad, that doesn't handle unix text files correctly
[03:33] <ray_> chalcedony still with me?
[03:33] <nickrud> gogi` the editor of choice (equiv of notepad)  is gedit
[03:33] <gogi`> ok I'm installing that now
[03:34] <Josdell> Hey guys, I want to know, are Fingerprint Readers compatible with Ubuntu 8.04
[03:34] <nickrud> gogi` should already be installed
[03:34] <gogi`> um...it wasn't
[03:34] <bsusa> ok i just done a ctrl+alt+backspace nothing changed when i went back into compiz and emerald.
[03:34] <gogi`> the terminal told me to install it
[03:34] <Chikubu> what is the multimedia program with the best view and management of your library? opinions?
[03:34] <gogi`> remember just inside the Live CD right now
[03:34] <nickrud> gogi` and about fixing your grub, I'm not sure what you need to do. And yes, gedit comes with the live cd
[03:34] <andy_> what kind of multimedia?  like music mostly?
[03:34] <chalcedony> ray_: sorry my son phoned
[03:34] <__yy> Josdell: depends entirely on the specific fingerprint reader... but my guess is most are probably not supported
[03:34] <KRaZy_WaKa> __yy thats what i was hoping to hear lol thanx alot
[03:35] <ray_> chalcedony its ok what program can i use for what i want to do?
[03:35] <KRaZy_WaKa> any way i could do a repair install so i dont lose my settings?
[03:35] <Josdell> __yy: alright, i'll look up some thanks though bye
[03:35] <chalcedony> ray_: i'm the mother of a linux geek
[03:35] <gogi`> hmm well i'm looking at it in gedit now
[03:35] <cafree> Anyone know if there's much of a performance gain with lvm striping?
[03:35] <Olgem> Josdell, I've heard that there wont be much luck getting them working, but then again - I'm not sure if hardware biometric auth is the best solution, I'd rather have full disk encryption
[03:35] <ray_> chalcedony o okj
[03:35] <gogi`> still don't really know what to do .... :S
[03:35] <nickrud> !fixmbr | KRaZy_WaKa
[03:35] <ray_> chalcedony ok for my q what recamend
[03:35] <ray_> im never did this
[03:36] <chalcedony> ray_: i can help you think things through but it's not my area of expertise to tell you what to do
[03:36] <andy_> anybody know how to make my USB ports work again?
[03:36] <ray_> chalcedony ok were i start once i got program i can think how i edito it
[03:36] <ray_> just need somthing to edit it with
[03:36] <ray_> so can use on my windows system
[03:36] <__yy> andy_: no, because you haven't provided nearly enough information for anyone to know what's wrong
[03:37] <chalcedony> ray_: mmm i run linux and have things like totem and mplayer
[03:37] <KRaZy_WaKa> nickrud: i went through a bunch of stuff on there and messed it up worse than it was, now my ubuntu drive boots to grub> command line
[03:37] <shingalated> first you have to open the disc drive
[03:37] <ray_> ok chalcedony  ok i want to edit my avi
[03:37] <nickrud> KRaZy_WaKa you have a live cd?
[03:37] <gogi`> can someone take a look at my fdisk -l and menu.lst paste and tell me what I need to change: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23421/
[03:37] <shingalated> and make sure you dont have more than 512 MB of ram
[03:37] <ray_> camcorder movie
[03:37] <KRaZy_WaKa> yeah
[03:37] <bsusa> This is my config hopefully correct. http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/9107/screenshotcompizconfigskt5.png
[03:38] <KRaZy_WaKa> nickrud: i've done the reinstall grub after installing windows and it doesnt fix it either
[03:38] <chalcedony> ray_:  would mplayer do that? it's wonderful for audio
[03:38] <andy_> __yy: sorry...  I'm running 64-bit hardy on my laptop and none of my usb devices work past boot.  This includes my USB keyboard, mouse, printer, and any flash drives I plug in
[03:38] <ray_> chalcedony its camdroder movie in avi formate
[03:38] <andy_> they all work in suse 11 and the keyboard works in the bios
[03:38] <nickrud> KRaZy_WaKa try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto#Command%20line
[03:38] <chalcedony> andy_:  i feel for you
[03:38] <ray_> i took of family digital camera for movie
[03:39] <ray_> there in avi formate on sd card
[03:39] <chalcedony> ray_ are you positive that mplayer won't do it?
[03:39] <nickrud> KRaZy_WaKa if that doesn't work, I have another, harder way :)
[03:39] <KRaZy_WaKa> i'm running on the live CD now bcuz i dont have irc on windows
[03:39] <ray_> chalcedony yes not for editing them
[03:40] <chalcedony> ray_: is this one better ? http://www.truveo.com/ubuntu-How-to-Join-AVI-Files/id/1314695029
[03:40] <KRaZy_WaKa> nickrud: i started out doing it the hard way and messed it up worse than it was lol, i should have settled at installing the extra drive and making it another storage drive lol
[03:40] <andy_> me thinks I'll just reinstall Ubuntu and see if that fixes anything.  /home is on its own partition so I wont lose too much
[03:40] <Jeeves_Moss> can someone recomend a good Linux baised virus scanner that I can use to scan my windoz partition to find the spyware, virus, etc.  I'm getting annoying popups with web pages on my M$ partition.
[03:40] <gogi`> lalala anyone have any ideas?
[03:41] <__yy> Jeeves_Moss: what's wrong with using a windows virus scanner? that strikes me as a lot easier tbqh
[03:41] <gogi`> what I need to edit in my menu.lst file to make it work...
[03:41] <KRaZy_WaKa> nickrud: but go ahead and give me the hard way, then i can just go from the community link to doing it the hard way if the link fails
[03:41] <ray_> chalcedony that what i want to do and then save then in formate my windows system can read
[03:41] <ruiboon> !clamav | Jeeves_Moss
[03:42] <nickrud> KRaZy_WaKa the hard way is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#Preparing%20Your%20Working%20Environment , but I'm seeing some really bad formatting there. Hard to follow
[03:42] <thingfish> clamav on windows?  if he wants to leave it overnight, maybe.
[03:42] <Jeeves_Moss> __yy:  it "claims" there is nothing there (according to Antivir and an on-line scanner), but search and distroy claims it's killed it a few times.  I need something better (seeing as nothing is killing it)
[03:42] <ray_> chalcedony i more then one avi i want to edit thow
[03:42] <Jeeves_Moss> ruibon:  my gui keeps crashing when I run ClamAVTK
[03:42] <KRaZy_WaKa> nickrud: lol thats how i ended up where i'm at
[03:42] <thingfish> Clamwin or whatever it's called
[03:42] <ray_> like place them were i want them also
[03:43] <nickrud> KRaZy_WaKa I've done that several times, myself. But I need to fix that page
[03:43] <gogi`> hey nickrud , when i try to save the menu.lst file it says permission denied?
[03:43] <__yy> Jeeves_Moss: so you need a better virus scanner... bringing linux into this will just make it more difficult... I promise.
[03:43] <ray_> chalcedony avi editor for camcorder move on sd card
[03:43] <chalcedony> Jeeves_Moss: How do I run an anti-virus scan if I can't boot? - Ask Leo!This article from "Knoppix Hacks" describes using Knoppix to perform a Virus Scan ... infected drive on the second PC as a slave drive and scan it that way. ...
[03:43] <chalcedony> ask-leo.com/ how_do_i_run_an_antivirus_scan_if_i_cant_boot.html - 27k -
[03:43] <__yy> KRaZy_WaKa: remember the simple solution is still to just reinstall ...
[03:43] <SeaPhor> gogi`, you need to gksudo gedit it
[03:43] <ray_> what i meant
[03:44] <Jeeves_Moss> __yy:  well, I was thinking that if I was running it in Linux, then if it is a boot up issue with M$, then it'll be able to corect it
[03:44] <gogi`> oh ok
[03:44] <rattts> hi people i cant mount a volume that i really need to mount
[03:44] <rattts> it says its still in use
[03:44] <rattts> how can i force mount it
[03:44] <__yy> rattts: have you tried --force?
[03:45] <chalcedony> ray_: i'm trying to help but it's sure nothing i ever did
[03:45] <rattts> umm
[03:45] <ray_> chalcedony o ok
[03:45] <rattts> mount VistaOS --force?
[03:45] <rattts> hows the syntax?
[03:45] <__yy> rattts: yes
[03:45] <KRaZy_WaKa> nickrud: i tried the reinstall grub from liveCD when i first installed windows and that got Grub back for me but i still had to switch the boot sequence to boot each OS
[03:45] <__yy> rattts: assuming mount VistaOS is how you would normally mount it
[03:46] <rattts> ok hold on
[03:46] <rattts> can u type an example of how you would mount one of the drives on ur comp
[03:46] <__yy> rattts: sudo mount --force /dev/deviceIwanttomount /folder/to/mount/to
[03:47] <chalcedony> ray_: is this anything like what you wanted? http://www.pinoygeek.org/2008/05/25/how-to-join-avi-files-in-ubuntu/
[03:48] <KRaZy_WaKa> then i tried the liveCD method with my windows drive booting first, and thats how i ended up with the grub> command line when i boot my ubuntu drive first
[03:48] <rattts> mount -a -t
[03:48] <rattts> oops lol
[03:48] <red22> can gnome be set up to rename files on a lazy double-click over the file name?
[03:48] <KRaZy_WaKa> nickrud: then i tried the "hard" way to fix it and still same scenario
[03:48] <__yy> red22: just press F2
[03:48] <matthias_N> how can i check the helth of my computer ????, my placback is going slow ...
[03:49] <nickrud> KRaZy_WaKa could simply be a problem with menu.lst .
[03:49] <ray_> chalcedony yes but i want to put the file were i want
[03:49] <nickrud> KRaZy_WaKa what did the find  command give you?
[03:49] <lanuser> What's a 3D intensive eye candy or game that I can use to test my vid card's capabilities in Ubuntu (please don't say glxgears ;) )
[03:49] <nogagplz> lanuser Nexuiz?
[03:49] <__yy> lightrush: fgl_glxgears
[03:49] <red22> __yy: yeah, i read the docs. but i find that too inconvinient.  do you know how to set it up for file rename on double click?
[03:50] <__yy> red22: no, I don't use gnome at all
[03:50] <__yy> I just know the rename shortcut
[03:50] <chalcedony> ray_: ok that's CLOSER .. so your question to this group might be: How can i copy an AVI movie to my ... ?
[03:50] <lanuser> nogagplz: thanks, I'll give that a try
[03:50] <red22> __yy: ok thanks for trying at least :)
[03:50] <__yy> np
[03:50] <ray_> chalcedony yes them edit them
[03:51] <KRaZy_WaKa> nickrud: it gave me a different reading each time, when i booted ubuntu drive first it gave me hd1,0 when i booted windows drive first it gave me hd0,0
[03:51] <Vinchenzo28> how do i change permissions so I am able to write and edit the file system directory?
[03:51] <red22> any gnome'ers know how to set up a file rename on a lazy double click (like in popular commercial OS's) pls?
[03:52] <KRaZy_WaKa> i have an NTFS volume on a PCI IDE expansion card that i believe was the cause of that
[03:52] <nickrud> KRaZy_WaKa ah! That's cuz you swapped the order of the drives in bios
[03:52] <Chikubu> what's the sceduler in ubuntu, dont see chron
[03:52] <lanuser> Chikubu: that's cuz it's cron not chron
[03:52] <barbara> Has anyone had any trouble with their sound using hardy heron?
[03:53] <chalcedony> barbara: LOLOLOL
[03:53] <__yy> Vinchenzo28: sudo find . "(" -type f -or -type d ")" -exec chmod 777 {} \;
[03:53] <Chikubu> lance my typo's, i wont bleed
[03:53] <chalcedony> barbara: try in #Alsa ?
[03:53] <WalloO> chicakubu, anacron?
[03:53] <Chikubu> whats this anacron
[03:53] <red22> lanuser: cron, no "h"
[03:54] <barbara> Change all the tabs to ALSA in my devices/Sound Preferences?
[03:54] <lanuser> Chikubu: cron is there, unless you just don't have it installed, anacron is more for laptops that aren't always on
[03:54] <chalcedony> barbara: go visit winky in #Alasa .. he's the best . or at least ask in there
[03:54] <lanuser> red22: wrong person
[03:54] <chalcedony> it depends very much on your hardware barbara
[03:55] <barbara> ok.
[03:55] <barbara> thanks.
[03:55] <Chikubu> ok i see it now, was looking in wrong place, used to diff distro
[03:55] <lanuser> Chikubu: try "crontab -l"
[03:55] <KRaZy_WaKa> nickrud: i swapped the bios boot sequence to install windows on the slave drive, then back once windows was installed
[03:56] <Chikubu> just wanna scedule a tar command with incremenetals
[03:56] <Chikubu> no crontab for <user>
[03:57] <greenthumb> well, still hopping in here
[03:58] <greenthumb> is anyone familiar with Joker's How To on getting packet injection to work with b43 wireless driver?
[03:58] <nickrud> KRaZy_WaKa you need to set the ubuntu hard disk as primary drive. Then boot a live CD. Then set up the working environment, and chroot into the ubuntu install. At that point you can run  sudo update-grub  && sudo grub-install hd0 or (hd0) don't remember exactly off hand
[03:58] <greenthumb> i am running into a hang up when i actually run the patch
[03:58] <Chikubu> i wanna set a tar to run to archive my stuff, i just want the user folders backed up and the stuff symantic has in its cache, where is it's cache?
[03:58] <nickrud> KRaZy_WaKa give me a chance to fix that page so it's legible
[03:59] <Steve_> greenthumb, i have injection up on my b43
[03:59] <Chikubu> in var someplce>
[03:59] <Chikubu> ? not >
[03:59] <KRaZy_WaKa> nickrud: i tried the liveCD grub reinstall method/added a windows stanza to menu.lst and i got grub back but couldnt boot to windows, so i changed the boot sequence back to slave first (which is how it was when i installed windows) and did the liveCD method again, thats what got me to the grub> command line when booting from ubuntu drive first
[04:00] <KRaZy_WaKa> nickrud: tried the working environment and all that to fix it already and it didn't work, but maybe i did something wrong due to that page being screwy
[04:00] <greenthumb> Steve: i run the patch command "sudo patch -pl < b43-injection-2.6.24.4.patch" and then it asks what file i want to patch and i have no idea what to put
[04:00] <nickrud> KRaZy_WaKa yes! There's a special thing you have to do to boot windows off the slave drive. You have to convince windows that's running on the primary drive. Get back the ubuntu boot, and I'll help you finish up the windows boot
[04:01] <nickrud> KRaZy_WaKa you were going in exactly the right direction, just didn't know about the finicky windows boot
[04:01] <KRaZy_WaKa> nickrud: i can't get ubuntu to boot now, i'm so utterly confused at this point lol
[04:01] <Steve_> greenthumb, try "sudo patch -p1 < b43-injection-2.6.24.4.patch"
[04:01] <nickrud> KRaZy_WaKa use the live cd grub reinstall method, get back to the point where ubuntu boots but windows doesn't. You went in the wrong direction after you had that working
[04:02] <greenthumb> Steve: i do that and then am prompted to enter a file to patch
[04:03] <KRaZy_WaKa> nickrud: ok will do, i will be back momentarily
[04:03] <Steve_> greenthumb; you need to use the correct -pN parameter
[04:03] <spamoom> I've navigated to a page where the text "Use of the alsa-oss library is recommended over the use of OSS-emulation drivers if you want to use ALSA's PCM plugin layer. " is on (alsa-oss). I can't for the life of me find the OSS-emulation drivers it mentions XD. Could someone give me some help?
[04:03] <greenthumb> Steve: result is "can't find file to patch at input line 7"
[04:04] <greenthumb> Steve: what is the pN parameter? pathname?
[04:04] <menininho> xserver-xorg-video-ati.dev version 6.9.0 for ubuntu is released?
[04:04] <chalcedony> spamoom: ask in #Alsa
[04:04] <menininho> xserver-xorg-video-ati version 6.9.0 for ubuntu is released?
[04:04] <spamoom> thanks
[04:05] <Steve_> greenthumb, it's how many directories it's supposed to traverse
[04:05] <michel> alguem aÍ fala portugues do Brasil?
[04:05] <greenthumb> Steve: ok, i have no idea then
[04:06] <michel> tem alguem brasileiro aí?
[04:06] <Steve_> greenthumb, have you read the patch, put it in the appropriate directory and used the correct command?
[04:06] <menininho> michel, sim
[04:06] <greenthumb> Steve: ahh, i have not. i did not know that
[04:07] <greenthumb> Steve: THanks, will do. that will probably clear it up then. reading is always the solution, the hard part is knowing where to read.
[04:07] <Steve_> greenthumb, you are patching linux for b43 injection support?
[04:08] <greenthumb> Steve: yes that is correct
[04:08] <greenthumb> Steve: what am i looking for in the patch?
[04:09] <keithclark> Ok, I have no choice but to switch back to XP here.  My poor laptop runs at 100% cpu usage and it is throttled at 45% processor power.  I've tried everything but to no avail.  Thanks for trying, those that have!
[04:10] <Steve_> greenthumb, how many directories the patch will traverse. This is where you get the number for "patch -p0 -p1 -p2 etc.."
[04:10] <keithclark> Someone please make sure that Compaq R4000 makes it into the NOT compatible list
[04:10] <greenthumb> Steve: Ok, so i need to figure out where it will be going then.
[04:11] <__yy> keithclark: gotcha, I'm on it
[04:11] <dirtbag> Im having an issue trying to view my gpu temperature 8.04. Could someone point me in the right direction? I've tried nvidia-settings but its a no go.
[04:11] <keithclark> Hey, I'm only trying to warn
[04:12] <WalloO> dirtbag, you have a 8800gt?
[04:12] <Steve_> greenthumb, ya.  just $nano  <patchname> , and count the slashes
[04:13] <SrgSantos54> hello to all
[04:13] <greenthumb> Steve: ok, i'll give it a shot
[04:13] <dirtbag> WalloO: No. 7950 GTX  its on a laptop.
[04:13] <WalloO> dirtbag, haaaaa... ok. Maybe give try to nvclock
[04:13] <keithclark> __yy, I'm only trying to warn.   Choose to ignore and have a system like mine.  Users choice.
[04:14] <dirtbag> WalloO: Ok will do. Thanks
[04:15] <ash7> which is the place to discuss screenlets dev
[04:15] <WalloO> dirtbag, it's in ubuntu just sudo apt-get install nvclock
[04:16] <greenthumb> Steve: what slashes am i counting?
[04:16] <pppoe_dude> hi, does it matter if my computer shutdown improperly and without unmounting volumes after installing hardy and getting the 'do you want to reboot' message
[04:16] <dirtbag> WalloO: Thanks =) I was googling for it lol
[04:17] <rootyrooty> Hi, I am getting little font boxen for funny characters. I have installed the msfonts, any ideas?
[04:17] <Steve_> greenthumb: The patch file has a target file listed in the beginning of the file
[04:18] <greenthumb> Steve: got it, there is ---linux-2.6.24.4/driver/net/wireless/b43/main.c, so that would be -p5
[04:19] <Steve_> Is there anyone here who's a developer?
[04:19] <Chikubu> if there a way to tell synaptic or aptitude to give priority to one source over another?  i am gonna use aptoncd to take all my updates to another machine, and i DON'T want the machine to redownload, i want it to use local resources
[04:19] <Chikubu> is there a way i meant
[04:19] <gooody> how can i access memory card from a camera? i want to reformat the memory card.
[04:19] <WalloO> Steve_: It'S pretty sure there are some
[04:19] <Steve_> greenthumb: depends on what directory the patch sits in right now
[04:19] <greenthumb> ok
[04:19] <nogagplz> turn off the sources that link to the outside world Chikubu?
[04:19] <Ryuho> dsa
[04:20] <ash7> gooody: do you have a memory card reader ?
[04:20] <krovividi> is kiba-dock ready for hardy?
[04:20] <gooody> nope. but i can connect the camera using usb.
[04:20] <Jester45> offtopic: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/microsoft-admitted-vista-failure.html XP support till 2014 this is a sad day for MS and a good say for everyone else
[04:22] <krovividi> can anyone guide me with setting-up kiba-dock on hardy?
[04:22] <ash7> gooody: then connect and use gnome partition manager to do formatting
[04:22] <gooody> ash7: am i going to install the gnome partition manager?
[04:23] <ash7> gooody: GParted
[04:23] <Steve_> greenthumb, if you placed the patch in /usr/src/linux, a $ patch -p4 < b43-injection-2.6.24.4.patch , would presumably work.
[04:24] <gooody> ash7: ok. thanks for the help. i'll try GParted.
[04:24] <greenthumb> Steve, ok, i'm digging away here trying to find some reference material, thanks for the help
[04:24] <Steve_> greenthumb, did you try my command?
[04:25] <greenthumb> steve: just a sec i'll give it a shot
[04:26] <boaz> Has anyone here tried this file system: http://www.nilfs.org/en/about_nilfs.html
[04:26] <greenthumb> Steve: no, i keep getting 'can't find file to patch at input line 7' then a prompt 'FIle to patch'
[04:27] <nadalizadeh> Anybody knows where can i download an official release of 2.6.17-generic kernel from ubuntu ?
[04:27] <nadalizadeh> it deletes the old packages from archive.ubuntu.com
[04:27] <Steve_> greenthumb, hehe. just write in what file to patch, and you should be over that
[04:29] <greenthumb> steve: that's the problem, i'm not sure what file, is there are three paths listed in the patch the first line starts with 'diff' then '---' then '+++'
[04:30] <xenoglossia> Hi again!  I'm dual-booting Win2K and Ubuntu 8.04, and (after fooling around with a Live USB), I get this error message when I try to boot into Windows via GRUB: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23323/.  I can however boot into Ubuntu.  I'm told that I replaced the Windows bootloader with Syslinux (by the way, I'm a total novice with Linux).  I don't have my Windows CD anymore.  Is there anything I can do?
[04:30] <dirtbag> WalloO: Do you use Nvclock?
[04:31] <Steve_> greenthumb, just try them all, it has to work
[04:31] <WalloO> dirtbag, yes. I even patched it to report temperature for 8800GT correctely... :)
[04:31] <krovividi> ﻿ can anyone guide me with setting-up kiba-dock on hardy?
[04:32] <dirtbag> WalloO: Cool!
[04:33] <WalloO> dirtbag, in fact to report temperature on my desktop, I use Watermark screenlet (which uses nvclock). This is a screenlet I made.
[04:34] <Steve_> greenthumb, do a $ sudo patch -p0 < b43-injection-2.6.24.4.patch, followed by a $ sudo patch -p1 < b43-injection-2.6.24.4.patch and so on..
[04:34] <dirtbag> WalloO: So you should be able to tell me this. How to bring up gui >< lol All I get is terminal.  Awsome, id like to do that.
[04:34] <ryan_> someone please help: Jun 27 09:23:04 ryan kernel: [ 1553.524890] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdh] Device not ready:
[04:35] <ryan_> i can't identify /sdh wtf
[04:35] <WalloO> dirtbag, nvclock_gtk
[04:36] <RedHatMatt> xenoglossia: unfortunately, you will probably need an xp disk.  But someone here may know how to configure grub to recognise the windows partition.
[04:37] <greenthumb> Steve: I imagine that I am patching the broadcom driver, right? so if i find the path to the driver then i enter that at the prompt. does that sound right?
[04:37] <Ashfire908> I'm having issues with php cgi. PHP only works in /var/www, and not any of the subfolders.
[04:37] <Ashfire908> *php-cgi
[04:37] <harry> I want to connect with my xp to the ubuntu system with remote desktop.  I am useing kde.
[04:38] <Steve_> greenthumb, yes, do that.
[04:38] <dirtbag> WalloO: Nice. Watermarks a program that you built?
[04:38] <instabin> Im having problems getting my resolution to show up correctly... I need to get 1680x1050 but the highest choice i have is 1280x1024 I have an nvidia card
[04:38] <RedHatMatt> harry: xp -> linux or linux -> xp?
[04:39] <harry> xp -> linux
[04:39] <xenoglossia> RedHatMatt, The folks at ##windows pointed me to bootdisk.com, but I have no idea what to do/download/install there.  I'm pretty green.  I could use some help :)
[04:39] <WalloO> dirtbag, Yes. In fact it'S a screenlet which use screenlets framwork to display things on the desktop:  http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/WaterMark+system+information?content=71960
[04:39] <afallenhope> I can't get the Internet DJ Console to work... is there anything else like that that I can use/
[04:40] <taz> HELLO
[04:40] <SeaPhor> harry, check this out,,, http://www.wood-bee-co.com/woodbeeco/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=40&Itemid=63
[04:40] <taz> ANYONE WANNA CHAT??
[04:40] <afallenhope> taz, this isn't a place to chat.
[04:40] <RedHatMatt> Harry: enable desktop sharing in kde, then use a vnc compatible client in windows. I like UltraVNC.
[04:40] <ryan_> Jun 27 09:23:04 ryan kernel: [ 1553.524890] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdh] Device not ready:
[04:40] <thingfish> instabin: do you have the restricted drivers installed?
[04:41] <instabin> thingfish: yes
[04:41] <ryan_> sdh isnt't even mounted
[04:41] <taz> I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT   AND THANKS
[04:41] <instabin> thingfish: I am also runing compiz
[04:41] <thingfish> instabin: /usr/share/applications/Screens and Graphics
[04:41] <afallenhope> taz, please don't type in caps either.
[04:41] <afallenhope> it means you're yelling
[04:42] <Steve_> instabin: the resolution you set in /etc/X11/xorg.conf is the maximal resolution X can use. so just edit it, enter the right resolution, save it and restart the X server. (Ctrl+Alt+Backspace)
[04:42] <dirtbag> WalloO: Now thats cool!!
[04:42] <WalloO> taz, this is dedicated to help, not to find friends. You may find other servers to find friends.
[04:42] <Drod> I am in gparted screen but it seems I cannot resize or reformat my external hdd fat32. it appears as /dev/sdb1..how should I proceed?
[04:42] <instabin> Steve_ my xorg dosent have much in it
[04:42] <thingfish> instabin: navigate to that location I showed you.
[04:42] <Steve_> instabin; great. less mess to be confused from
[04:42] <cannon> !dvd
[04:43] <thingfish> instabin: the Screens and Graphics applet will give you what you want.
[04:43] <instabin> Thingfish: i can not find the screens and graphics
[04:43] <thingfish> instabin: hardy heron?
[04:43] <instabin> 8.04
[04:43] <ryan_> i'm using 8.04 horny hippo
[04:43] <WalloO> dirtbag, I need to make a nice theme for WaterMark, however I suck in design, and need to find some help to design a small (but major) part of the theme I want to create
[04:43] <ryan_> and its this damned /sdh error
[04:43] <instabin> thingfish: 8.04
[04:44] <thingfish> instabin: command line won't find it.  You have to browse to it using nautilus.
[04:44] <instabin> ok
[04:44] <connor> sup
[04:45] <instabin> thing fish i have it now
[04:45] <instabin> thingfish now i just have to figure out the model of my monitor
[04:46] <thingfish> instabin: is this a laptop?
[04:47] <instabin> thingfish: no
[04:47] <Steve_> Can anybody help me with my ATI driver? it spews out a lot of BUG! warnings and even Oopses from dmesg.
[04:47] <instabin> thingfish i found my monitor but the resolution still did not change
[04:47] <thingfish> instabin: you should be able to select it from the drop down list
[04:47] <instabin> thingfish its an acer x193w+
[04:47] <RedHatMatt> xenoglossia: Look here: http://www.ntcompatible.com/How_to_remove_GRUB_loader_t28242.html
[04:47] <seth__> i am new to linux and am looking for good source info to get more familiar with the principles
[04:48] <RedHatMatt> xenoglossia: it should get you started.
[04:48] <afallenhope> anyone know how to restart the sound module?
[04:48] <thingfish> instabin: what's the max it will let you select?
[04:48] <nogagplz> seth__: Linux in general or Ubuntu?
[04:48] <instabin> thingfish: ok it told me i have to log off first
[04:48] <Drod> is the only way to use gparted with the live cd? can I use it to resize an external hdd while logging my ubuntu?
[04:49] <thingfish> instabin: ok good
[04:49] <instabin> thingfish:brb
[04:49] <nogagplz> seth__: Linux in general or Ubuntu?
[04:49] <Steve_> seth__ try installing gentoo
[04:49] <seth__> both preferably
[04:49] <nogagplz> http://nixcraft.com/getting-started-tutorials/177-i-have-installed-linux-what-next.html
[04:50] <seth__> thank you
[04:50] <nogagplz> For Linux in general, Ubuntu site should lead to info regarding itself
[04:50] <dirtbag> WalloO: Yeah, design is hard.
[04:50] <Steve_> seth__ ,are you cli-shy?
[04:50] <instabin> thingfish: Seems like it worked.
[04:50] <RedHatMatt> Drod: yes you can operate on other hard drives while booted with linux.  You need the bootdisk only if you are operating on the partition where the booted OS resides.
[04:51] <thingfish> instabin: good
[04:51] <instabin> thingfish: anygood with tv tuner cards?
[04:51] <KRaZy_WaKa> nickrud: no luck still boots to the grub> command line
[04:51] <seth__> not sure i follow
[04:51] <thingfish> instabin: not in linux I'm not, no
[04:51] <seth__> cli shy?
[04:51] <nogagplz> seth__: cli -> command line interface. typing stuff into a black screen
[04:52] <instabin> thingfish: Well thanks for the help with the monitor
[04:52] <nogagplz> seth__: He means are you willing to use it or not
[04:52] <thingfish> sure
[04:52] <Drod> RedHatMatt, thanks...I just tried the "unmount" and now I can see the Resize/Move option...would it give me options on which file system I want in the new part? so far I have fat32 whole, and I want a part with a filesystem where I can have >4gb, any suggestions?
[04:52] <indio> Hi. I insstalled Apache2 and the default page only says "It works!", where is the Apache welcome page?
[04:52] <instabin> thingfish: how do i get emerald working?
[04:52] <seth__> yes i am used to dos in windows
[04:52] <cannon> Since the wiki directions didn't work, how do I make Hardy play DVDs?
[04:52] <Steve_> seth__ are you used to typing on a keyboard, rather then just clicking with a mouse
[04:52] <dirtbag> WalloO: Does Watermarks run screenlets, or do screenlets run Watermarks?
[04:52] <xenoglossia> RedHatMatt, Okay, so, would reinstalling an mbr (lilo -M /dev/sdx (a la http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2008/05/15/usb-ubuntu-804-persistent-install-from-linux/)) help?
[04:52] <instabin> thingfish: when i use emerald --replace it dosnt do anything
[04:52] <thingfish> instabin: I don't use emerald, just the extra desktop effects.
[04:52] <thingfish> instabin: I guess you'd apt-get install it
[04:53] <instabin> yea i did
[04:53] <nogagplz> seth__: Then you should be pretty much set. It's just a matter of learning different commands and file layout
[04:53] <instabin> but it wont run for somereason
[04:53] <cannon> !dvd
[04:53] <killemall> ive just installed ubuntu 8.04 onto my D945GCLF/atom system, but I had to disable onboard network first.  can i save a new kernel onto usb stick, then upgrade my system?
[04:53] <cannon> !medibuntu
[04:54] <seth__> i have been looking for resources on the file structures and commands and syntax
[04:54] <thingfish> instabin: dunno.  It's been a while since I used emerald.
[04:54] <Steve_> seth__ i use http://tldp.org alot
[04:55] <heather> hey guys!  I just installed ubuntu, and it's great!  How do I view quicktime movies?
[04:55] <unavailable> hey it looks like Pidgin may get voice/video support after all... with the GSoC http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/GSoC2008/VoiceAndVideo
[04:55] <RedHatMatt> xenoglossia: Maybe.  The mbr needs to point to a bootloader that knows how to boot your windows partition (assuming you didn't accidentally delete it.)  The fdisk /mbr from a windows boot disk should also do the trick.
[04:55] <seth__> thank you i will check that out
[04:55] <crashsystems> voice in pidgin? woot!
[04:56] <cannon> Thanks for nothing again.
[04:56] <Drod> my external HDD is fat32 but I wanted to accept files >4gb, which one should I choose ext2 or ext3? I wanted to be readable within windows too
[04:56] <xenoglossia> RedHatMatt, Provided I didn't accidentally delete my Windows bootloader, how would I find it?
[04:56] <unavailable> redhatmatt there's a program out there called bootpart that lets you use ntldr as your boot manager for linux
[04:56] <nogagplz> oohm, that does look good Steve_, thanks too :P
[04:56] <Gralco> sd
[04:56] <crashsystems> drod: I'd pick ext3
[04:57] <Drod> crashsystems, thanks, any chance gparted or something else would allow me to choose ntfs, I dont see it in the options from gparted
[04:57] <crashsystems> there is a driver for using ext partitions in windows, though journeying will not function in windows.
[04:57] <unavailable> zenoglossia if you cant boot to windows, that means that grub wrote to the mbr, and you lost the part that says "go to this drive for windows"  your windows disk will be really handy right now
[04:57] <instabin> how do you get the default firefox 3 theme
[04:57] <Ziroday> How do I exit from the livecd?
[04:57] <crashsystems> I've never been able to format ntfs in gparted, though I can read it inubuntu
[04:58] <crashsystems> ziroday: just shut down
[04:58] <unavailable> redhatmatt look for dual boot linux ntldr bootpart
[04:58] <RedHatMatt> unavailable: xenoglossia's problem is that she installed ubuntu from a cd and wanted to dual boot, but now grub won't boot windows xp.
[04:58] <Ziroday> crashsystems: how?, the power button the top right has no 'shutdown' option
[04:58] <killemall> how can i update my ubuntu 8.04 kernel from a usb stick? the system doesnt have network right now?
[04:58] <unavailable> redhatmatt
[04:58] <unavailable> yep
[04:58] <Drod> crashsystems...thanks..I want this external HDD to hold my virtual machines (solaris, ubuntu) to use within windows, would you say I should shop elsewhere, or ext3 usage within windwos is good enough..
[04:58] <unavailable> zenoglossia do you have an xp cd?
[04:58] <crashsystems> that is strange. open up a terminal and type "sudo halt"
[04:58] <unavailable> naa
[04:59] <dirtbag> instabin: i had to use compiz icon to get emerald to work. http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/CompizFusionIcon
[04:59] <xenoglossia> unavailable, unfortunately, I don't
[04:59] <indio> Hi. I installed Apache2 and the default page says "It works!", where is the old Apache welcome page?
[04:59] <unavailable> xenoglossia can you get one?
[04:59] <crashsystems> drod: I think any format will work for holding a vm file, though I'd stay away from fat32 and ntfs due to fragmentation
[04:59] <xenoglossia> unavailable, I might be able to -- but I don't think so, at least in the near future :)
[04:59] <Flannel> indio: /var/www/apache2-default
[05:00] <unavailable> xenoglossia hold on
[05:00] <instabin> thanks dirtbag
[05:00] <dirtbag> instabin: NP
[05:00] <unavailable> xenoglossia you do have xp right?
[05:00] <Drod> crashsystems, thanks, last question, any vbox virtual machine I create within vbox for ubuntu as host, would work if I use vbox under windows?
[05:00] <unavailable> xenoglossia and do you have a cd burner and a blank?
[05:00] <xenoglossia> unavailable, actually, I have Windows 2000 Professional
[05:00] <unavailable> aah
[05:00] <unavailable> ok
[05:00] <xenoglossia> unavailable, yes
[05:00] <unavailable> do you got a 2k disk??
[05:00] <xenoglossia> unavailable, nope :)
[05:01] <crashsystems> drod: that I cannot answer. I think so, but I've never tried to use windows as a host
[05:01] <unavailable> dang
[05:01] <Drod> ok thanks a lot!
[05:01] <RedHatMatt> xenoglossia: one of the xp boot disks from bootdisk.com should do the trick.
[05:01] <unavailable> xenoglossia hold on.
[05:01] <xenoglossia> RedHatMatt, how do I use the boot disks from bootdisk.com?
[05:01] <indio> Flannel: I don't have /var/www/apache2-default
[05:02] <unavailable> xenoglossia do you have a boot floppy?
[05:02] <unavailable> xenoglossia the problem with the bootdisks from bootdisk.com is you have to use an exe to write your bootdisk
[05:02] <unavailable> xenoglossia and in ubuntu it gets complicated.
[05:03] <xenoglossia> unavailable, I don't have a boot floppy, however I do have access to a fully functional windows machine
[05:03] <unavailable> ok.
[05:03] <unavailable> xenoglossia  well check this page out http://www.ambience.sk/fdisk-master-boot-record-windows-linux-lilo-fixmbr.php
[05:03] <high-freq> has anyone had problems with b43 (broadcom 431x) and wifi-radar?  doesn't seem like it wants to connect at all anymore after upgrade
[05:03] <xenoglossia> unavailable, Sure.  Thanks!
[05:05] <prettyricky> where can I get audio codec, I have no sound with VLC
[05:05] <crashsystems> prettyricky: install the package ubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:05] <dru> hello, i just recently bought nero linux .. and when i try to burn a file it says ... dvd-files compliance test failed ... wtf is wrong? i tryed googling it, but came up with nothing .. can anyone help?
[05:05] <Chikubu> anyone familiar enough with ltsp to provide a brief overview on what goes were?
[05:06] <Naisenu> Hi I need some help with dual monitor support. Running a clean install of Hardy, nVidia 6600GT, TwinView. I am basically getting mirrored output on both displays. I can get one display working or the other, but not both. xorg.conf settings are here: http://rafb.net/p/JBfJzr38.html (Sorry, pastebin isn't working atm for me)
[05:06] <prettyricky> is that under the synaptic package manager?
[05:06] <xenoglossia> unavailable, Sounds good -- but one thing: how do I create a bootable floppy disk/diskette?
[05:06] <crashsystems> prettyricky: you can get it there, or in the terminal you could run "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-exras"
[05:07] <unavailable> xenoglossia got a floppy?
[05:07] <killemall> are there newer kernels on the ubuntu 8.04 cd, besides the default one?
[05:07] <xenoglossia> unavailable, yes, but not a floppy disk drive :(
[05:07] <unavailable> rofl
[05:07] <prettyricky> crashsystems---- thanks got it...
[05:07] <crashsystems> your welcome
[05:07] <unavailable> ok then... we gonna hafta go with a cd
[05:09] <ka-away> ~ims sofa`
[05:11] <Naisenu> Aside from quits, this place is quiet ...
[05:11] <sofa`> ~ims
[05:11] <sofa`> ~imc
[05:12] <killemall> my onboard network card would hang the ubuntu 8.04 install, so i disabled onboard net in the bios, installed 8.04 justfine, but now im not sure howto install the lastest kernel update without net(needed to get net working)
[05:13] <Naisenu> Anyone for helping out with dual monitor support? Running a clean install of Hardy, nVidia 6600GT, TwinView. I am basically getting mirrored output on both displays. I can get one display working or the other, but not both. xorg.conf settings are here: http://rafb.net/p/JBfJzr38.html (Sorry, pastebin isn't working atm for me)
[05:13] <Corkster> Naisenu: you install "nvidia-settings"
[05:13] <killemall> i was thinking i could just download a couple of packages with another pc to a usb stick, then plug into ubuntu system and install them
[05:14] <Naisenu> Corkster, already there.
[05:14] <Naisenu> I have the nvidia drivers installed too
[05:15] <DrAkOdE> Helo!
[05:15] <Corkster> hmm normally really easy
[05:15] <Corkster> you trying to use twinview ?
[05:15] <Corkster> i use seperate x sessions
[05:15] <Naisenu> Corkster, I wouldn't be here if it was that easy. :)
[05:16] <Corkster> Naisenu: its really easy in my experiance with my hardware
[05:16] <Naisenu> Corkster, Why separate x sessions? Per monitor?
[05:16] <Naisenu> Corkster, What is your hardware?
[05:16] <Corkster> yeah i get beter control that way
[05:16] <Chikubu> anyone use ltsp-manager, getting No such file or directory: '/opt/ltsp/'  error?
[05:16] <Corkster> nvidia 8500 gt
[05:16] <Naisenu> Corkster, previously on Gutsy I had xinerama i think
[05:17] <DrAkOdE> look at this blog, I think it is on the right track, has good manuals and several more things ... www.blackxploit.blogspot.com (look at this blog, I think it is on the right track, has good manuals and several more things ...)
[05:17] <Naisenu> Corkster, How do you get separate x sessions going?
[05:17] <Corkster> nvidia-settings just a (tick)
[05:18] <Corkster> Naisenu: under your monitor description (configure) its in there
[05:19] <Naisenu> errr I appear not to be using the nvidia drivers
[05:19] <Blaqlight> man I love this city.
[05:19] <Corkster> apt-get install envy-core
[05:19] <pppoe_dude> any ideas how i can get mod_python to work under apache2 / hardy?
[05:19] <Corkster> let envy do it for you
[05:19] <nogagplz> huh, since when was envy in repositories?
[05:20] <Naisenu> Corkster, I had.
[05:20] <Corkster> its in mine
[05:20] <luisgmarine> Hell guys.  I've been looking online and I can't seem to find a fix for changing the default application that open up your iPod when you plug it in.  Any of you guys know how to maybe fix this?
[05:20] <Naisenu> Was trying to follow the instructions in here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4873918
[05:20] <nogagplz> Have you restarted X after installing the driver?
[05:20] <wols> !ops | darkode is spamming
[05:20] <nogagplz> Or, set X to use it
[05:20] <Naisenu> hold on one.
[05:21] <Blaqlight> luisgmarine, right click on the application and select "Open with another applaication"
[05:21] <luisgmarine> Blaqlight that doesn't make it permenant
[05:21] <Blaqlight> obviously with the correctly spelled words where they should be.
[05:22] <luisgmarine> Blaqlight, ?
[05:22] <Blaqlight> luisgmarine, when you figure it out let me know cause the above is all I know.
[05:22] <DrAkOdE> wtf! it's not spam... is a blog... guies, etc...
[05:23] <luisgmarine> Blaqlight, ok.  I mean it works, but it's not permanent.  When I close out gtkpod or w/e and click on the iPod it goes back to rhythym box.
[05:24] <Rollis> join #ylivieska
[05:25] <tom__> l
[05:26] <elky> rollis on the other hand, was spamming.
[05:27] <crusher> anyone know how to run a .bz2 file
[05:27] <wols> it's an archive, like a zip.
[05:27] <crusher> I downloaded Cinelerra but don't know how to run/install it
[05:27] <jbroome> crusher: it's a compressed archive
[05:28] <nickrud> drakode and I apologize, can't forget that :)
[05:28] <Blaqlight> .bz2 is an archive. open it with nautilus or archive manager.
[05:28] <L1nc01n> Does anyone know what the closest thing to Photoshop I can get on this here Linux
[05:28] <L1nc01n> ?
[05:28] <eboyjr> crusher:: Extract it and see if there is a file in it called configure
[05:28] <crusher> jbroome:  ok I now understand that it is a compressed file
[05:28] <judy> anybody here fully config. mythTV?
[05:28] <wols> L1nc01n: gimp I guess
[05:29] <high-freq> has anyone had problems with b43 (broadcom 431x) and wifi-radar?  doesn't seem like it wants to connect at all anymore after upgrade
[05:29] <judy> l1nc01n: you can download a torrent of Photoshop and run it through wine
[05:29] <wols> check your syslog and kernel log then
[05:29] <wols> !warez | judy
[05:30] <crusher> eboyjr: I do see a file named configure
[05:30] <Packman_e> hello all
[05:30] <wols> crusher: cause it's a binary and not cinelerra source. read the manual, readmes, etc from mainsoft how to use it
[05:30] <L1nc01n> wols, gimp?  sounds good, I have that.  I just didn't know if there was something even better.  I just got Ubuntu and want to try and start doing new things not on Windows (because I like new stuff)
[05:30] <crusher> eboyjr:  now what do I do with it.... when I double click on the configure file it
[05:31] <nilesh> hi all
[05:31] <crusher> wols  what is "mainsoft"
[05:31]  * unavailable gave up piracy when he got ubuntu
[05:31] <wols> crusher: the company making cinelerra
[05:31] <Blaqlight> Gimp is like photoshop.
[05:31] <eboyjr> Blaqlight:: That's GIMPShop
[05:31] <Blaqlight> unavailable, Im with you on that.. no need lol
[05:31] <Onebeer> only Open Source :)
[05:32] <judy> linux allternatve to Windows Media Center with USB remotes?
[05:32] <Blaqlight> eboyjr, indeed.
[05:32] <eboyjr> judy:: Mythbuntu?
[05:32] <unavailable> judy     mythbuntu with remotes
[05:32] <L1nc01n> eboyjr: there's GIMPShop?  is it different than a regular "GIMP"?
[05:32] <L1nc01n> installation
[05:32] <judy> i setup mythbuntu and i cant get past the mysql server stage,
[05:33] <eboyjr> L1nc01n:: I'm not quite sure...
[05:33] <unavailable> judy #mysql
[05:33] <Chikubu> j #ltsp
[05:33] <L1nc01n> eboyjr, okay
[05:33] <Chikubu> oops
[05:33] <Packman_e> just wanted to say hello to everyone, i just got Linux for the first time today and installed it just now. I have heard good things about it, and I hope my experience is good.
[05:34] <Sa[i]nT> Where can I found out about using something like VMWare on linux to run windows inside ubuntu?
[05:34] <unavailable> !chatter
[05:34] <dangergrrl_> hi :)
[05:34] <L1nc01n> Packman_e:  What experience do you have with computers?
[05:34] <eboyjr> !hi
[05:34] <unavailable> sa[i]nt www.virtualbox.org
[05:34] <Xpistos> Amarrok says I need to start dbus and hal daemons to detect my mp3. How do I do that?
[05:34] <dangergrrl_> does anyone know how to get the pre/postinstall scripts out of a .deb file?
[05:34] <dangergrrl_> dpkg --extract is no help
[05:35] <Packman_e> L1nc01n: i have used windows, and am quite comfortable with computers
[05:35] <unavailable> !vbox | sa[i]nt
[05:36] <L1nc01n> Packman_e: that's good.  I guess anyone that wasn't pretty good with computers would be bothering installing Linux anyways, haha.  I just ask because I installed Ubuntu two days ago and am trying to figure everything out
[05:36] <mattlock> would anyone be able to suggest a channel where I can ask an Xorg question?
[05:36] <Packman_e> L1nc01n: and how are you finding it so far?
[05:37] <nogagplz> #xorg ?
[05:37] <wols> mattlock: if it's under ubuntu: here
[05:38] <mattlock> well, I'm remoted into my xubuntu box at work, desktop :1, and I'm wondering if there's any way to move a running app from :0 to this one?
[05:38] <wols> no there is none
[05:39] <L1nc01n> Packman_e:  It's different...  I'm so used to not having to do anything with a terminal window or anything, not that you have to do much with Ubuntu, but it's taking some getting used to.  I find that more things are less intuitive, as in, you just are expected to know what to do +\\=]\][05:39] <mattlock> thanks wols ^^ at least i wont waste time trying
[05:39] <L1nc01n> whoops, dropped my keyboard
[05:39] <wols> mattlock: use vino, or vnc
[05:40] <eugene> .
[05:40] <mattlock> wols: i'm running vnc, but couldn't share the root desktop in xfce
[05:41] <Blaqlight> hmmm perhaps Mythbuntu was what I was looking for to do with my desktop.
[05:42] <bllcsby> anybody here able to help me with setting up an apache server
[05:42] <Packman_e> L1nc01n: hello mate, can you resend the last messages you sent to me please, because my chat client crashed
[05:42] <dangergrrl_> ok, i guess iĺl see if i can come up with a google string that will help
[05:42] <mattlock> bllcsby: maybe, whats your trouble?
[05:42] <dangergrrl_> it sounded like a hard google question
[05:43] <eboyjr> bllcsby:: Ask me :D
[05:44] <bllcsby> i pretty much don't know where to start and i can't find anything on the internet thats not real technical
[05:44] <bllcsby> I am setting up a website
[05:44] <wols> !lamp | bllcsby
[05:44] <wols> bllcsby: a website is a technical thing
[05:45] <unavailable> technically speaking that is
[05:45] <crusher> thanks wols, jbroome and eboyjr
[05:47] <unavailable> dead?
[05:47] <Xpistos> dcop kded mediamanager fullList
[05:47] <bllcsby> wols you being sarcastic?
[05:47] <Xpistos> call failed
[05:47] <Xpistos> ?
[05:47] <windowsIsForN00b> i get an issue when i try to start a program by launcher but not directly, any help?
[05:47] <wild_> hi im having problems with openal
[05:48] <zinkele> how can I NOT see the join and quit in xchat-gnome ?
[05:48] <eboyjr> bllcsby:: I have a website installed on THIS computer right now
[05:48] <wols> bllcsby: no I'm not. a webserver is a technical thing so it stands to reason setting one up is described as a technical process
[05:48] <wild_> hi im using openal.im compiling a simple audio program . but when it plays it breaks up when ever i move my mouse
[05:48] <wols> zinkele: ignore the joins and quits
[05:48] <unavailable> zinkele  #xchat
[05:48] <wols> zinkele: /help ignore usually
[05:48] <eboyjr> wild_:: Do you think it might be your hardware?
[05:49] <wild_> it shouldnt be a problem
[05:49] <spoon_man> I wish some of these compiz settings were more descriptive...
[05:49] <windowsIsForN00b> i get an issue when i try to start a certain program by launcher or in a terminal but not directly, any help?
[05:49] <wild_> i can play ogg mp3s and such with ease
[05:49] <wols> wild_: what about premade programs using openal?
[05:49] <wild_> it dosnt break up
[05:49] <wild_> .. i havent tried it actually
[05:49] <L1nc01n> Packman_e:  It's different...  I'm so used to not having to do anything with a terminal window or anything, not that you have to do much with Ubuntu, but it's taking some getting used to.  I find that more things are less intuitive, as in, you just are expected to know what to do
[05:50] <L1nc01n> damn
[05:50] <zinkele> thanks wols and unavailable
[05:50] <unavailable> yap
[05:50] <Packman_e> L1nc01n: its happened again, xchat keeps on crashing
[05:50] <Packman_e> grrr
[05:50] <zinkele>  /help ignore
[05:51] <wols> zinkele: no leading space
[05:51] <Chikubu> anyone know about ltsp
[05:51] <unavailable> lol
[05:51] <wols> !anyone | Chikubu
[05:51] <spoon_man> Packman_e, what are you doing when it crashes? That happens to me sometimes when I try to join a channel from the Channel List window
[05:51] <unavailable> !ltsp | chikubu
[05:52] <zinkele> !help ignore
[05:52] <windowsIsForN00b> can someone help me, i get an issue when i try to start a certain program by launcher or in a terminal but not directly
[05:52] <Sa[i]nT> I'm using Xchat, and I don't see any way to hide the join/parts. I know you can on Konversation tho.
[05:52] <unavailable> rofl you had it right the first time zinkele just remove the space before /help ignore
[05:52] <babolat> windowsIsForN00b: pastebin the output of that error
[05:53] <Packman_e> spoon_man: nothing, i have xchat running only connected to this room, and i have mozilla running. I just have firefox infront and when i hear a 'ding' (letting me know that i recieved a message) then the client just closes itself
[05:53] <unavailable> packman_e https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/16
[05:53] <indio> Hi.
[05:53] <wild_> were is the configuration file for openal
[05:54] <alan_cool> hi 2
[05:54] <Chikubu> ive milked the online docs and coming up blank, the ltps-manger won't start, a bug report says it is because the setup for ltps-client hasnt been run, i cant install the client, it wont start with error DO NOT install this package on a regular machine, something about for installation inside a LTSP client filesystem.  ltps-client lists as broken when installed from repo, i am obviously missing something
[05:54] <||KMFMD||> how do you connect to the undernet?
[05:54] <Packman_e> unavailable: what is that?
[05:54] <||KMFMD||> what is what?
[05:54] <windowsIsForN00b> josh@josh-laptop:~$ '/home/josh/Documents/IC8.0.2/icgui'
[05:54] <windowsIsForN00b> QPixmap::fromMimeSource: Cannot find pixmap "ic4splash.jpg" in the mime source factory
[05:54] <windowsIsForN00b> QPainter::begin: Cannot paint null pixmap
[05:54] <windowsIsForN00b> QPainter::setPen: Will be reset by begin()
[05:54] <windowsIsForN00b> Cannot find library directory.
[05:54] <FloodBot1> windowsIsForN00b: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:54] <windowsIsForN00b> Cannot find library directory.
[05:54] <unavailable> packman_e chatzilla what im on right now
[05:54] <Chikubu> im not even sure i need the ltps-manager as i have a dhcp server but the gdhcpd utility is not showing what is in the config file correctly
[05:54] <babolat> !undernet | ||KMFMD||
[05:54] <Sa[i]nT> ||KMFMD||, The IRC network?
[05:54] <Chikubu> so what am i missing
[05:55] <unavailable> packman_e consider it like a xchat alternative?
[05:55] <||KMFMD||> sa[i]nT yes
[05:55] <windowsIsForN00b> oops
[05:55] <Packman_e> sorry, missed the last response, my client crashed again
[05:55] <wild_> were is the configuration file for openal
[05:55] <indio> How do I make mysqld not start automatically at startup ?
[05:55] <Packman_e> ahh
[05:55] <unavailable> packman_e consider it like a xchat alternative?
[05:55] <||KMFMD||> !undernet
[05:55] <windowsIsForN00b> anyway, any ideas
[05:55] <unavailable> packman_e chatzilla what im on right now
[05:55] <Sa[i]nT> ||KMFMD||, http://www.undernet.org/servers.php
[05:55] <||KMFMD||> how do I join that from using Ubuntu server IRC chat
[05:56] <Sa[i]nT> ||KMFMD||, Using Xchat or what?
[05:56] <||KMFMD||> yes..using xchat
[05:56] <Sa[i]nT> ||KMFMD||, Most of the time you just type /server server port
[05:57] <||KMFMD||> nevermind
[05:57] <||KMFMD||> I found it
[05:57] <Sa[i]nT> ||KMFMD||, Just type /server trondheim.no.eu.undernet.org 6667
[05:57] <Sa[i]nT> lol.
[05:57] <||KMFMD||> it's taking forever though
[05:57] <Sa[i]nT> Big network.
[05:57] <wols> Sa[i]nT: shitty servers more likely
[05:58] <unavailable> !ohmy
[05:58] <wols> undernet usually wants workiing identd for example
[05:58] <||KMFMD||> I used a different IRC client and worked fine....took like 10 seconds
[05:58] <Sa[i]nT> wols, I just come here and a couple small servers lol.
[05:58] <new> hi
[05:59] <Sa[i]nT> hi
[05:59] <unavailable> !hi | new
[05:59] <windowsIsForN00b> i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/23454/ when i try to start a certain program by launcher or in a terminal but not directly
[05:59] <Tweaker> Hello
[05:59] <Tweaker> I was wondering about something
[05:59] <unavailable> !ask
[05:59] <Tweaker> My camera seems to mess up with ubuntu. The pictures are all messed up
[05:59] <Tweaker> like it slides the picture around
[05:59] <wild_> would anyone happen to know were the openal configration file would be on ubuntu?
[05:59] <Tweaker> like a puzzle
[06:00] <new> i want a friend
[06:00] <Packman_e> hello all, i'm back
[06:00] <Corkster> you have a friend in Obama !
[06:00] <windowsIsForN00b> new: wud up
[06:00] <unavailable> new #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:00] <Sa[i]nT> LoL.
[06:00] <Packman_e> i am now running chatzilla rather than xchat
[06:00] <unavailable> obama sucks go for ron paul!
[06:00] <Tweaker> Anyways, how would I fix this problem?
[06:00] <Corkster> irssi > *
[06:00] <unavailable> ok
[06:00] <new> excusme
[06:00] <Sa[i]nT> Konversation is a contender.
[06:01] <Sa[i]nT> Plus....
[06:01] <new> i want a firl friend
[06:01] <Sa[i]nT> mIRC for the win.
[06:01] <Sa[i]nT> new, serious, get the hell out.
[06:01] <Tweaker> Seriously
[06:01] <bullgard4> What does 'ICS' stand for in the sentence: "The Evolution in Fedora can handle ICS calendar attachments and shows
[06:01] <unavailable> packman_e your login scripts are under chatzilla > preferences > freenode > lists
[06:01] <Tweaker> I need help wtf...
[06:01] <nickrud> Corkster unavailable ....
[06:01] <windowsIsForN00b> i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/23454/ when i try to start a certain program by launcher or in a terminal, any clues what all of it means?
[06:01] <babolat> !wtf
[06:01] <||KMFMD||> it was a Firefox addon
[06:01] <unavailable> srry nickrud
[06:01] <Packman_e> unavailable: what would I do with those
[06:02] <Tweaker> ok then...
[06:02] <||KMFMD||> where is chatzilla in the addons...i'm retarded and can't find it
[06:02] <dr_Willis> Tweaker,   you may want to give some more details like. What kind of camera, and perhapas post one of the images somewhere. so others can see exactly whats going on, and perhaps a screen shot.
[06:02] <bullgard4> What does 'ICS' stand for in the sentence: "The Evolution in Fedora can handle ICS calendar attachments and shows  a dialog in which you can accept or decline an invitation."?
[06:02] <Tweaker> ok
[06:02] <unavailable> click add then type msg NickServ IDENTIFY pass
[06:03] <Tweaker> All I know is it's a Digital Concepts camera, Sun Something and I will upload the photo in a second
[06:03] <Sa[i]nT> ||KMFMD||, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search?q=chatzilla&cat=all
[06:03] <nickrud> bullgard4 it's just a file extension, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICalendar
[06:03] <dr_Willis> Tweaker,  so you are refering to a 'photo' camera' not a web cam. :)
[06:03] <Packman_e> unavailable: 1 sec, i think i may know the problem
[06:03] <Tweaker> Yes
[06:03] <Packman_e> brb
[06:03] <||KMFMD||> I had on already
[06:03] <||KMFMD||> but I can't find it
[06:03] <||KMFMD||> wtf
[06:03] <Tweaker> dr_Willis:  That would be correct
[06:03] <||KMFMD||> dude
[06:04] <Sa[i]nT> ||KMFMD||, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/16
[06:04] <Tweaker> Ok dr_Willis Here's the picture
[06:04] <windowsIsForN00b> what does http://paste.ubuntu.com/23454/ mean?
[06:04] <Tweaker> SOme how it cuts it up
[06:04] <Tweaker> http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sunp0001qs7.jpg
[06:04] <Packman_e> i'm back
[06:04] <owner> hello
[06:04] <Packman_e> i think it might be because i did not put in my password for my username
[06:04] <unavailable> !hi | owner
[06:04] <||KMFMD||> its taking forever with chatzilla too...undernet sux
[06:04] <indio> How do I make mysql service not start automatically ?
[06:04] <owner> hi!
[06:05] <dr_Willis> Tweaker,  weird. - Not sure what would be causing that. The thing does work properly under other OS's ?
[06:05] <Tweaker> dr_Willis:  Yes it works fine under windows, so I do not understand why it wouldn't work on Ubuntu
[06:05] <bullgard4> nickrud: Thank you very much for your information.
[06:05] <||KMFMD||> does anyone know if fdupes can be used to sort and delete duplicate files on a network drive?
[06:06] <unavailable> !startup indio
[06:06] <unavailable> !startup | indio
[06:06] <minimax_> I installed dnsmasq, and I just set the hosts file on that system. unfortunately when I type "ping where" it won't resolve, when I type "ping where." it does
[06:06] <windowsIsForN00b> a little help??????? i get this when i try to start a program in terminal: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23454/
[06:06] <unavailable> where does where. resolve to?
[06:06] <indio> ubottu: !boot
[06:07] <babolat> indio: Start > Preferences > Session is a good way.. you also have the CLI: update-rc.d foo default # adds a service to the default runlevel update-rc.d foo remove # removesd a service from the default runlevel
[06:07] <dr_Willis> Tweaker,  try some other Live Linux cds see if it also goofs up under them. That way you can tell if its a Ubuntu Specific issue, or more of a Linux Specific issue.
[06:07] <||KMFMD||> see you chumps
[06:07] <Tweaker> Alright I guess I can
[06:07] <minimax_> unavailable: 192.168.2.104   where
[06:07] <unavailable> aah
[06:08] <Tweaker> I'll be back way later if I find out its ubuntu
[06:08] <dr_Willis> Tweaker,  other then that - i got no idea as to a fix.  Trouble shooting is about the best help i can offer.
[06:08] <mattwj2002|work> hey everyone
[06:08] <indio> I need to read about runlevels.
[06:08] <Tweaker> Ok, Ill get to trying that out.
[06:08] <Tweaker> Peace
[06:08] <dr_Willis> !upstart | indio
[06:08] <mattwj2002|work> well I am installing Ubuntu on a usb jump drive
[06:08] <oswado> indio look into update-rc.d
[06:09] <indio> Thanks all!
[06:09] <dr_Willis> mattwj2002|work,  that pendrivelinux.com web site has tutorials on that i belive
[06:09] <minimax_> unavailable: but on "where" which is also running dnsmasq, it works. probably because the host file is being used directly
[06:09] <mattwj2002> yup that is what I am looking at :)
[06:09] <unavailable> !usb > mattwh2002|work
[06:10] <Packman_e> i suppose the problem is, that now that i have installed linux for the first time, what do I do next?
[06:10] <StormStrikes> Does anyone know of a how to for undervolting the AMD Semprom processor?
[06:10] <L1nc01n> Packman_e:  You still there?
[06:10] <windowsIsForN00b> StormStrikes: it should be done in ur bios
[06:10] <minimax_> unavailable: any reason why the extra dot is required?
[06:10] <babolat> !amd | StormStrikes
[06:10] <Packman_e> damn xchat
[06:10] <Packman_e> i give up
[06:10] <unavailable> i would guess because of www.blah.site
[06:11] <unavailable> the whole . . . thing
[06:11] <StormStrikes> windowsIsForNoob, I'll check but I dont remember seeing anything there.
[06:11] <minimax_> unavailable: oh, as in I -must- have a FQDN?
[06:11] <windowsIsForN00b> StormStrikes: what mobo do u have
[06:11] <dr_Willis> Packman_e,  Huh?
[06:11] <StormStrikes> windowsIsForNoob, to be honest Im not sure, its on my laptop
[06:11] <Packman_e> dr_Willis: my xchat keeps on crashing for no reason
[06:12] <StormStrikes> anyway to find out short of taking it apart?
[06:12] <dr_Willis> Packman_e,  xchat or xchat-gnome?
[06:12] <mattwj2002> I recently order a new laptop.....
[06:12] <mattwj2002> what are the odds that Ubuntu will run well on it?
[06:12] <unavailable> minimax_ --i have no clue--  that was just a guess
[06:12] <windowsIsForN00b> StormStrikes: if its a laptop, chances r slim that its even possible, the bios will be very limited and i dont believe that most laptop bridges enable voltage or frequency changes
[06:13] <nickrud> mattwj2002 much better than a couple years ago
[06:13] <unavailable> !odds > unavailable
[06:13] <mattwj2002> yeah it is pretty sweet little system....
[06:13] <dr_Willis> mattwj2002,  about the only issues ive seen with most laptops are wireless, and video. :) a lot will depend on the exact chipset the thing uses for those 2 devices.
[06:13] <StormStrikes> windowsIsForN00b: Okay, I was afraid of that but thought I would ask.  I saw the tutorial in the forums and was not sure if I could do it.
[06:13] <Packman_e> dr_Willis: i am not sure, how will i find out, if it helps i am running ubuntu 7
[06:13] <mattwj2002> it has a good ATI chip set in it
[06:13] <mattwj2002> wireless I am not sure about
[06:14] <dr_Willis> Packman_e,  'sudo apt-get install xchat' and try 'xchat' in the terminal. I dont like xchat-gnome, i just use the normal xchat program.
[06:14] <windowsIsForN00b> StormStrikes: U might be able to do it somehow with amd's CoolAndQuiet technology, that uses processor throttling and undervolting
[06:14] <mattwj2002> I guess there is only one way to know....try it out :D
[06:14] <nickrud> mattwj2002 I suggest strongly that you have the laptop wired up to ethernet during the install, it makes setting up wireless much less painless
[06:14] <mattwj2002> sounds good nickrud
[06:14] <nickrud> mattwj2002 seen too many people get locked into that loop
[06:14] <Packman_e> dr_Willis: is xchat normally a command line program?
[06:14] <StormStrikes> windowsIsForN00b: is there a program for Ubuntu or something I can download to tap into that?
[06:15] <windowsIsForN00b> StormStrikes: ill look into it
[06:15] <nickrud> erm, less painful I meant ;)
[06:15] <dr_Willis> Packman_e,  no its a full gui X based chat program. Xchat-gnome is a simpilified version that most people seem to Hate.
[06:15] <mattwj2002> are there any problems with installing Ubuntu and Vista on the same machine?
[06:15] <mattwj2002> it comes with Vista
[06:15] <dr_Willis> Packman_e,  running stuff from a terminal, will also print out any error messages/reasons for crashing
[06:15] <unavailable> ditch vista
[06:15] <Packman_e> ahh
[06:15] <StormStrikes> windowsIsForN00b: I appreciate that.  Ive been through the tutorial on the forums a few times but its written for dual cores and I was curious as to what would be out there for the AMD processor
[06:15] <dr_Willis> mattwj2002,  i dual boot that way all the time. Use Vista to resize the ntfs. its Much faster at the task.
[06:15] <nickrud> mattwj2002 I'd suggest using the disk manager in vista to shrink the vista partition if you plan on keeping it. Let windows mess with windows stuff
[06:15] <mattwj2002> I know NTFS use to be an issue back in the day
[06:16] <mattwj2002> awesome advice guys
[06:16] <mattwj2002> thanks :D
[06:16] <unavailable> i can read/write to ntfs
[06:16] <unavailable> but i dont have that new ntfs vista has
[06:16] <windowsIsForN00b> StormStrikes: I know there r for windows, it may work with wine but i doubt it;
[06:16] <nickrud> mattwj2002 I avoided writing to nfts from windows much longer than most, I've very conservative. But I finally trust it
[06:17] <unavailable> rofl @ nickrud
[06:17] <mattwj2002> nickrud are you using the Vista version of NTFS?
[06:17] <unavailable> "writing to ntfs from windows"
[06:17] <cxo> how do i turn off root fsck check?
[06:17] <zakm> how would i get the rt kernel in ubuntu 8.04 without compiling my own.
[06:17] <nickrud> mattwj2002 I was, but once the warranty on this laptop expired I deleted vista
[06:17] <dr_Willis> unavailable,  :) i noticed that also.. wasent sure if he typoed or ment it.
[06:17] <StormStrikes> windowsIsForN00b: bahh, okay.  I thought I would give it a shot if something was out there.  I dont suppose something like powernd would be a way?
[06:17] <Packman_e> hello
[06:18]  * nickrud reads back, and blushes
[06:18] <unavailable> dont worry i never liked using windows to write to my disk either
[06:18] <windowsIsForN00b> StormStrikes: ull have to excuse my lack of knowledge, what is that?
[06:19] <brother> hi
[06:19] <brother> excusme
[06:19] <b0xxy> hu
[06:19] <brother> pls help me
[06:19] <b0xxy> !ask
[06:19] <nickrud> !hu
[06:19] <brother> i want a program for cell phon
[06:20] <Packman_e> dr_Willis, your right it looks like the other xchat, with a few differences
[06:20] <StormStrikes> windowsIsForN00b: If I understand it correctly its a frequency scaler.  I know thats different but wasnt sure if it would have a way to do the voltage as well.
[06:21] <windowsIsForN00b> StormStrikes: this is all i could turn up, it does exactly what u want... but its for windows :(: http://crystalmark.info/software/CrystalCPUID/index-e.html
[06:21] <unavailable> wine?
[06:21] <fredbear> evening all
[06:21] <Tweaker> Ok guys
[06:21] <piju> what do u prefer on intel core 2 duo ? 64bit of ubuntu or 32 ?
[06:21] <Tweaker> It is Ubuntu, it works fine on Live PC Cd
[06:22] <StormStrikes> windowsIsForN00b: Okay, I'll check that one out and see what turns up.
[06:22] <piju> what do u prefer on intel core 2 duo ? 64bit of ubuntu or 32 ?
[06:22] <Tweaker> the PCLinuxOS*
[06:22] <fredbear> piju, last time i tried 64bit it didn't work too well...but it's been a while.
[06:22] <NovaAesa_> anyone know how to run a bash script from the command line, if you are already in the same directory? x permisions are already set
[06:23] <piju> fredbear, and now ?
[06:23] <windowsIsForN00b> StormStrikes: a few forums also say that RMclock is a similar application for linux
[06:23] <piju> NovaAesa_, ./script
[06:23] <nickrud> piju used both, like both, but use 32 for better compatibility with nonfree stuff (like flash, java plugins, etc)
[06:23] <unavailable> windowsisforn00b considering both cpu-z and everest are at silver on appdb, you think that would work with wine?
[06:23] <NovaAesa_> thanks piju =D
[06:24] <piju> hello ? anybody here using 64bit ubuntu ?
[06:24] <StormStrikes> windowsIsForN00b: You da man.  Let me look that one up and see.
[06:24] <fredbear> that was my problem nick, couldn't get flash and java installed for the life of me.
[06:24] <unavailable> piju been there done that went to 32 bit reason ? lack of apps
[06:24] <torkepeof> piju im using
[06:24] <piju> nickrud, what is the advantages of using 64bit ?
[06:24] <unavailable> piju ram
[06:24] <nickrud> piju mainly access to more memory if you have it
[06:24] <torkepeof> basically nothing
[06:24] <Flynsarmy> lay
[06:24] <piju> oic
[06:25] <unavailable> piju its useless if you have less than 4 gig
[06:25] <Flynsarmy> What's the command to find out which hard drives are in a PC?
[06:25] <nickrud> Flynsarmy sudo fdisk -l
[06:25] <Packman_e> what is programming like on linux/ubuntu compared to vista?
[06:25] <unavailable> piju unless you got some hardcore 64 bit processing
[06:25] <L1nc01n> hey Packman_e
[06:25] <nickrud> Packman_2 much less handholding guification
[06:26] <Packman_e> L1nc01n, hey
[06:26] <dr_Willis> Packman_2,  and much less damage to your wallet. :)
[06:26] <hardhatpat> can i have multiple Modeline statements in my xorg.conf?
[06:26] <dr_Willis> oops wrong nick. :)
[06:26] <iss_student> I have 4 gig of memory and use 64 bit because with 32 bit I only get 3 gig
[06:26] <dr_Willis> Packman_e,  and much less damage to your wallet. :)
[06:26] <nickrud> hardhatpat yes
[06:26] <L1nc01n> I kept doing other things when you were dropping and stuff
[06:26] <L1nc01n> but earlier I said this:
[06:26] <unavailable> dr_willis well thats an obvious when comparing vista to ubuntu
[06:26] <piju> unavailable, such as ?
[06:26] <L1nc01n> Packman_e:  It's different...  I'm so used to not having to do anything with a terminal window or anything, not that you have to do much with Ubuntu, but it's taking some getting used to.  I find that more things are less intuitive, as in, you just are expected to know what to do
[06:26] <Packman_e> dr_Willis, thats ok, Packman_2 is me in chatzilla, and Packman_2
[06:26] <L1nc01n> haha
[06:26] <Packman_e> dr_Willis, thats ok, Packman_2 is me in chatzilla, and Packman_e is me in xchat
[06:27] <Packman_e> just incase it crashes
[06:27] <piju> iss_student, oic
[06:27] <unavailable> piju i have no idea, had no need for 64 bit, hated the lack of applications, didnt have 4 g ram so i went to 32bit have never regreted it
[06:27] <windowsIsForN00b> StormStrikes: why r u trying to undervolt btw?
[06:27] <StormStrikes> windowsIsForN00b: The programs name I mentioned earlier is powernowd
[06:27] <StormStrikes> More or less to see what kind of life I can get out of the battery.
[06:27] <Flynsarmy> My HDD's didn't mount properly on boot. Anyone know how to get them back? ntfs-config isn't helping
[06:28] <unavailable> packman_2 packman_e   rofl
[06:28] <piju> unavailable, how about 64bit on pc with below 4gb ram ?
[06:28] <Jester45> unavailable: and binaries are bigger so you waste a few more MB
[06:28] <unavailable> packman_2 packman_e  split personalities?
[06:28] <unavailable> piju useless
[06:28] <windowsIsForN00b> StormStrikes: oh, powernowd, u can change upper and lower processor limits, that'll give u a little more battery
[06:28] <Packman_e> unavailable, oh yes!
[06:28] <unavailable> packman_2 packman_e  so do both beep?
[06:29] <Packman_e> unavailable, oh yes
[06:29] <piju> unavailable, most laptop are now max ram only to 4gb
[06:29] <Jester45> unavailable: pm both of them :)
[06:29] <piju> unavailable, so thats mean that laptop is useless when using 64bit?
[06:29] <Packman_e> it is a bit annoying, i just get worried if xchat crashes
[06:29] <nickrud> rflol
[06:29] <StormStrikes> windowsIsForN00b: Okay, is there some information somewhere on what commands to run.  Its all CLI operated as I understand it.
[06:30] <unavailable> jester45 is it possible to pm two id's at once?
[06:30] <Packman_e> screw it, i am gonna risk it and close chatzilla
[06:30] <unavailable> rofl
[06:30] <StormStrikes> windowsIsForN00b: Never mind on that, I can google that part.
[06:30] <unavailable> lol
[06:30] <RUMMY> In wireshark don't have my NIC, how I can add?
[06:30] <Packman_2> packman_2 signing out!
[06:30] <L1nc01n> Hey, what do you guys think?  Should I teach myself shell-scripting (and learning bash well) or Python first??
[06:30] <unavailable> packman_2 packman_e  bah
[06:31] <Packman_e> done, now fingers crossed!
[06:31] <dr_Willis> L1nc01n,  do them all.. :)
[06:31] <Jester45> L1nc01n: shell scripts are bash scipts just so you know :)
[06:31] <raheem> :)
[06:31] <windowsIsForN00b> StormStrikes: cpufreqd looks good too, "cpufreqd is meant to be a replacement of the speedstep applet you can find on some other OS, it monitors the system status and selects the most appropriate CPU level."
[06:31] <dr_Willis> L1nc01n,   learning is a process.. the more ya learn, the more you apply what you learned to real life situations. thats how you really learn. Just reading bash guides willbe the first step in learning :)
[06:31] <unavailable> l1nc01n  well reading this i would say python http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/python.png
[06:32] <wild_> just incase anyone else has problems with openal and ubuntu http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=725727&highlight=openal+soft
[06:32] <StormStrikes> windowsIsForN00b: Thats where I got hung up in the how to in the forums.  I could never get that part to work.
[06:32] <dr_Willis> L1nc01n,  a lot will depend on what tasks you want to do. It is worth while to learn bash.
[06:32] <Packman_e> where do you guys think would be a goot place to start programming, for someone who has never programmed before?
[06:32] <windowsIsForN00b> StormStrikes: installing it or using it?
[06:33] <L1nc01n> Jester45: I know, I just don't know my way around the terminal very well.  I need to learn how to do basic stuff in the bash before I start doing scripts, lol
[06:33] <techno_freak> L1nc01n, i would suggest bash first as it helps in your normal computer file management more
[06:33] <StormStrikes> windowsIsForN00b: installing it.  Well specifically the PHC utility.
[06:33] <dr_Willis> Packman_e,   Python is fairly good and welldocumented for a total-starter to any programing.
[06:33] <ASULutzy> Man, what good is having 4 cores if devede won't use them ;)
[06:33] <dr_Willis> ASULutzy,  run it twice!
[06:33] <L1nc01n> hmm...  That sounds like good reasoning, techno_freak
[06:34]  * unavailable just typed "import antigravity", but i also sampled everything in the medicine cabinet, but i think its the python!
[06:34] <ASULutzy> dr_Willis: heh, yea I guess I could convert multiple files at once :P or I could stop being a noob and use mencoder
[06:34] <bazhang> unavailable, interesting but offtopic
[06:34] <windowsIsForN00b> StormStrikes: PHC?
[06:35] <StormStrikes> windowsIsForN00b: Thats was part of the how to in the forums.  Just a sec and I'll get the link to it.  Its Processor Hardware Control
[06:35] <dr_Willis> ASULutzy,  i just learned how to use k9copy the otehr day. :)
[06:35] <StormStrikes> windowsIsForN00b: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=786402
[06:35] <Jester45> L1nc01n: you should cat /dev/urandom it makes your terminal a lot more fun
[06:35] <Packman_e> dr_Willis, i will check that out, i believe python is now supported on symbian phones (eg. nokia n95)
[06:36] <Jester45> L1nc01n: and also not very useable
[06:36] <windowsIsForN00b> StormStrikes: do u get a specific error
[06:36] <ASULutzy> dr_Willis: heh, I use mencoder quite a bit, but for some reason I didn't feel like typing tonight... Guess taking twice as long to convert is the price to pay
[06:36] <L1nc01n> Packman_e,  I first learned C++ in High School, then did Java a little bit, and when I got to college I learned C, and then Java some more.  If I was you, I would try and get into C.  It's more "lower level" than the others and makes you understand more of how programming actually works in my opinion
[06:36] <L1nc01n> Jester45, I'll have to try that
[06:36] <L1nc01n> haha
[06:37] <StormStrikes> windowsIsForN00b: No, when I run the lsmod | grep acpi_cpufreq, I get no output at all
[06:37] <dm> Does anyone know how to make your grub auto update when a new kernel is installed?
[06:37] <windowsIsForN00b> do u have cpufreq installed?
[06:38] <dm> I upgraded to Hardy, and it didnt update.
[06:38] <bazhang> dm choose the new one
[06:38] <unavailable> tis getting late anyway, G.L all you peoples...  gnight
[06:38] <dm> bazhang didnt put it in my grub
[06:38] <ASULutzy> Packman_e: If you want to get a job where you actually make money, learn everything there is to learn about the .NET framework
[06:38] <windowsIsForN00b> StormStrikes: do u have cpufreq installed
[06:38] <Jester45> dm it should of automagically
[06:38] <bazhang> dm then you need to update-grub yourself
[06:38] <Packman_e> L1nc01n,  i heard that learning c is like playing with sharp knives
[06:38] <StormStrikes> windowsIsForN00b: I did, I uninstalled it so I could install powernowd
[06:38] <dm> bazhang D:
[06:38] <dr_Willis> Packman_e,  python is supported on abut anything it seems :)
[06:38] <bazhang> dm not difficult to do.
[06:39] <dr_Willis> Packman_e,  its hard to learn 'c' when you havent even grasped the concept of 'variables' and stuff. :) Python books are out that will gently introuduce you to programing fundamentals.
[06:39] <Packman_e> dr_Willis, unfortunately not the iphone
[06:39] <dm> bazhang ok when inputing the root UUID its going to be the same as my other entries right?
[06:39] <windowsIsForN00b> StormStrikes: what i get from that forum it that it isn't supported on amd processors
[06:39] <Packman_e> sweet!
[06:39] <dr_Willis> Packman_e,  You dont want to hear my Oponion on the iphone. :)  This is a faimly friendly channel.. heh hehe
[06:39] <bazhang> dm let me see if I can find a link
[06:40] <Packman_e> dr_Willis, go on, tell me
[06:40] <dm> bazhang k
[06:40] <StormStrikes> windowsIsForN00b: Right.  Which is what lead me to start searching for something specific for AMD processors.  Several days later I still have nothing :-)
[06:40] <Packman_e> dr_Willis, i am hopefully gonna get the new 3g one soon
[06:40] <Knightly88> Hi there. I'm hoping someone might have a second to help guide me in the right direction. I currently have Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron installed on my desktop pc and I am hoping to copy the Ubuntu partition from my desktop to an external hard drive... anyone know how to copy an entire Ubuntu OS with updates etc. and install it on an external hard drive with an MSDOS filesystem?
[06:40] <StormStrikes> windowsIsForN00b: That searching though led me to powernowd and checking to see if it would do what I wanted.
[06:41] <windowsIsForN00b> StormStrikes: http://phc.athousandnights.de/
[06:41] <ASULutzy> Knightly88: sudo cp -ax / /the/path/to/the/external
[06:41] <Jester45> Knightly88: as a backup perpose
[06:42] <Jester45> ASULutzy: would that maintain permissions?
[06:42] <dm> bazhang i put in the same UUID lets see if this works, brb.
[06:42] <dr_Willis> Packman_e,  id rather make a extra housepayment.. with my $$ :)
[06:42] <Knightly88> how can I copy Ubuntu to a hard drive and then RUN/USE it from the external hard drive? or do I need to just install a fresh copy of Ubuntu?
[06:42] <L1nc01n> Packman_e, Well, I don't know about that, haha.  I think it's just the kind of thinker you are.  In my opinion its a lot easier for me to understand programming from the ground up.  I really like assembly language and stuff, and C is not too far off.  If you really get down and dirty you get to see how processors manipulate the bits, and store shit in buffers and read this and do that, yaddy yadda.  And then you have people who
[06:42] <L1nc01n>  think it's a lot easier to code in Python or something because it's as close to writing english sentences as possible, which is also pretty cool
[06:42] <ASULutzy> Jester45: If he copied it to an ext3 drive it would
[06:42] <StormStrikes> windowsIsForN00b: that was another issue.  when I went to that site to download the files to compile them, I could never get them.   Fortunately the author included links to download the files not too long ago specific to the latest kernel
[06:42] <Jester45> Knightly88: i would go with the fresh install
[06:43] <Jester45> ASULutzy: but he said MSDOS filesystem so i was going to suggest !backup
[06:43] <StormStrikes> windowsIsForN00b: Either the svn links dont work or Im just not the brightest person and was doing something wrong.  The latter more likely.
[06:43] <Knightly88> Jester45 I've been doing some searching but still a little lost... how would I go about installing a fresh copy of Ubuntu on an external hard drive with the MSDOS file system? do I need to format/partition the external hard drive first?
[06:43] <Packman_e> L1nc01n, you like asembly!! man thats like chewing broken glass!
[06:44] <L1nc01n> Packman_e,  I didn't complete one of my sentences back there, but I think you get the idea
[06:44] <Jester45> Knightly88: it would be easier to reinstall then move everythig from the internal out
[06:44] <ASULutzy> Knightly88: It can be done. You would want the external hard drive to have an ext3 partition, then you would need to do say, sudo mkdir /media/backup then sudo mount /dev/thedrivepartition /media/backup then sudo cp -ax / /media/backup
[06:44] <windowsIsForN00b> StormStrikes: did u check this out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UndervoltingHowto
[06:44] <Jester45> Knightly88: you can format it with a linux FS or use fat if you want windows to beable to use it still
[06:44] <keith-> so what is tablet pc like in ubuntu
[06:45] <jony_kalavera> hi
[06:45] <Knightly88> No.... fuck Windows... never again will Microsoft own my computer, lol.
[06:45] <ASULutzy> Knightly88: I had to do roughly the same thing to install a RAID-1 on an already running ubuntu system. (I partitioned a drive to match the running drive, did sudo cp / /media/backup, then had to do some tricky bind action and mdadm sorcery, but it worked)
[06:45] <StormStrikes> windowsIsForN00b: Oh yeah.  I ran across that last night in my searches.  Though the pages are in German I ran them through babble fish to translate them but did not get any information that really furthered the cause.
[06:45] <pretender> Will Ubuntu 8.04 run smoothly on a Sempron 3000+ with !GB Ram and a FX5200 GFX Card
[06:45] <ASULutzy> !language | Knightly88
[06:45] <One_Tao> aptitude install sun-java5-jdk ant apache2 libapache2-mod-jk tomcat5.5 postgresql cvs imagemagick
[06:45] <L1nc01n> Packman_e, well it is frustrating sometimes, but I just like being able to know how everything is working.  With a lot of higher level stuff you just trust functions to work and never know how they do it, which is fine, but it usually makes me feel like I'm not understanding something or whatever
[06:46] <jony_kalavera> i just downloaded the new ati driver 8.6. and my laptop now seems to go faster. how can i enable compiz?
[06:46] <One_Tao> oops wrong term
[06:46] <Knightly88> Yes... sorry... my bad.
[06:46] <One_Tao> sprry
[06:46] <dm> bazhang nope, didnt work
[06:46] <windowsIsForN00b> StormStrikes: oh, i speak german, Hast du Frage fur mich?
[06:46] <StormStrikes> windowsIsForN00b: I did not try the rebuilding the kernel part though.
[06:46] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto dm you read this yet?
[06:46] <StormStrikes> windowsIsForN00b: LOL
[06:46] <Jester45> pretender: yes it will be fine
[06:46] <ASULutzy> ich kann auch Deutsch sprechen, ein Bischen
[06:46] <windowsIsForN00b> StormStrikes: anyway ill see if theres anything else
[06:47] <ASULutzy> !de | windowsIsForN00b
[06:47] <Knightly88> ASULutzy how might I go about partitioning an External USB Hard drive to the EXT3 partition?
[06:47] <dm> Bazhang yeah ive used that before on my laptop, but ive never had a situation that after a dist-upgrade to a non beta version of Ubuntu, and have it not update grub for me, like the kernel doesnt exist.
[06:48] <StormStrikes> windowsIsForN00b: I appreciate the help but dont waste much of your time, I can continue searching just as easy as anyone else.  I just thought I would see if anyone knew of some specific software package that would allow me to do the same as the How To in the forums.
[06:48] <dm> Bazhang but it does. and its installed.
[06:48] <windowsIsForN00b> StormStrikes: ok but this is what i spend my weekends doing
[06:48] <raheem> Knightly88: install gparted .. then, plug in the external harddisk .. it should show there
[06:48] <luisgmarine> Anyone having trouble changing the default application for programs?
[06:48] <dm> bazhang im on an old kernel, and my vid drivers arent working because of it. So... Should i remove the kernel and add it again?
[06:48] <ASULutzy> Knightly88: I can help you, but not to be rude, you might be better off just doing a fresh install to the external and then copying your home directory over
[06:48] <dangergrrl> yea!  i have audio in secondlife on em64t ubuntu, i hacked it though, it needed ia32 libgstreamer
[06:48] <pretender> Will it be quick enough to run Compiz.  On that hardware would xubuntu be a better choice
[06:48] <Jester45> !format | Knightly88
[06:48] <StormStrikes> windowsIsForN00b: Well okay then.  Im going to read through that rebuilding the kernel bit and see if it sheds any light on the matter.
[06:48] <dangergrrl> should i bug the ia32 compatibility libs?
[06:48] <pretender> der
[06:49] <kanhaiya> hi all
[06:49] <bazhang> dm you want the newer kernel but it does not show up?
[06:49] <luisgmarine> I think I found a fix, specially for changing the default application that an Ipod opens to.  I wanted to share the fix if anyone is interensted
[06:49] <kanhaiya> i want some inputs for server performance.
[06:49] <welkin> can any one tell me how to see the shared files of a windows computer in terminal which is connected in lan
[06:49] <windowsIsForN00b> StormStrikes: i have desktop knowledge but laptop hardware is quite different
[06:49] <kanhaiya> on my server too many hits are cuming.
[06:49] <dm>  bazhang in the grub to boot, yes.
[06:49] <StormStrikes> windowsIsForN00b: As I am learning as well
[06:49] <bazhang> kanhaiya, troubleshooting or a poll
[06:49] <kanhaiya> so servers are giving slow response
[06:49] <Knightly88> ASULutzy I appreciate the help... I'll install a fresh copy of Ubuntu... I'm working with the Gparted program now.
[06:49] <dr_Willis> welkin,  you could manyally mount the shares, or use the fusesmb tools and let it mount them
[06:49] <kanhaiya> but when i have a look at cpu load...
[06:49] <kanhaiya> that is normal..
[06:49] <kanhaiya> means below 1.
[06:49] <Jester45> pretender: it might get a little slow on compiz depending on how many effects you run with it, but if you use xubuntu compiz still will pull in a good chunk of gnome making it slower
[06:50] <jony_kalavera> i have kubuntu 8.04 i think compiz is installed how can i enable it ?
[06:50] <kanhaiya> bazhang, what ?
[06:50] <welkin> dr_Willis>>>>>>how to mount it??
[06:50] <kanhaiya> can anybody help me in improving server hits performance
[06:50] <windowsIsForN00b> i need some help, i get this when i try to launch this one program in terminal or by launcher, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23454/
[06:50] <dr_Willis> welkin,  the samba guides give examples.  I normally use fusesmb these days --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FuseSmb
[06:50] <connor> quick fluxbox queestoin
[06:51] <dr_Willis> welkin,  the using samba book, (and other docs) are in the samba-doc package.
[06:51] <welkin> dr_Willis>>>>>>i have samba but i know how to work in gui only.....
[06:51] <Jester45> kanhaiya: can you give us mroe details such as what is this server doing and with what hardware a load and be under 1 but still somethnig bottlenecking the system
[06:51] <Jester45> !ask | connor
[06:51] <Jester45> o he left
[06:51] <connor> How can I access folders on fluxbox?
[06:51] <welkin> dr_Willis>>>>>>im plannig to shift all the work through termila
[06:52] <raheem> welkin: smb://ipofthecomputer/sharename .. shouldn't this show the drive .. try that pls
[06:52] <dr_Willis> welkin,  the command line samba tools are well doucmentd. I just dont use them enough to rember the exact formats.
[06:52] <connor> Like an external hard drive
[06:52] <kanhaiya> actually we have hosted application of CMS
[06:52] <dr_Willis> welkin,  i much perfer how   fusesmb works. It mounts the whole network automatically to a single directory.
[06:52] <kanhaiya> and database
[06:52] <kanhaiya> database is on 1 server
[06:52] <kanhaiya> and application is on another server
[06:52] <welkin> raheem>>>> let me try that......
[06:53] <kanhaiya> when we access server thriough browser
[06:53] <dm> isnt there a apt-get command to re-install (if you will) packages?
[06:53] <kanhaiya> it is giving slow response
[06:53] <welkin> dr_Willis>>>>>>k... thank you ill try it and tel u the result now.... be right back...........
[06:53] <kanhaiya> but cpu loads are very low..
[06:53] <kanhaiya> and hits are too many
[06:53] <dr_Willis> welkin,  the basics (i just googled) --> sudo  mount -t smbfs //192.168.168.253/tmp /mnt/smbshare
[06:53] <kanhaiya> Jester45, help me
[06:53] <Jester45> connor:  mount them    run mount /dev/harddrivehere /your/mount/point
[06:53] <Jester45> !enter | kanhaiya
[06:54] <connor> Jester45: its usually under /media/ My Book
[06:54] <Jester45> connor: is that where its mounted or the device ?
[06:54] <windowsIsForN00b> why do i get this when i try to launch this one program in terminal or by launcher, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23454/
[06:55] <connor> Jester45: thats where my external hard drive is usually located
[06:55] <Jester45> kanhaiya: check to see if the database is accessing slowly
[06:55] <Jester45> kanhaiya: and if swap useage is high.. that would cause disks to slow making the database slower
[06:55] <connor> fluxbox question
[06:55] <connor> If I am in fluxbox downloading something to the desktop, how do I find it after the download is finished?
[06:56] <Jester45> connor:  its in ~/Desktop/
[06:56] <Jester45> ~ is your home directory = /home/username
[06:56] <connor> Jester45: I am in fluxbox
[06:57] <Jester45> connor: i know but the files still go there if your downloading with firefox
[06:57] <connor> Oh wait i opened nautilus
[06:57] <kanhaiya> Jester45, database load is also not that much high
[06:57] <kanhaiya> actually i tgink this is due to too many hits on server
[06:57] <windowsIsForN00b> why does a worm hole rip open the fabric of time in my living room when i boot my comp?
[06:58] <offline> anyone can guide me to configure the wireless driver on dell latitude d600 please ?
[06:58] <Jester45> kanhaiya: well there is a bottleneck somewhere or else the hits would go though
[06:59] <bazhang> dm if you rename the old menu.lst then sudo update-grub it will generate a new one that contains the newer kernel http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=98cfe6e48854872b6a7225182fb97dab&t=697963&page=2
[06:59] <kanhaiya> Jester45, what type of bottleneck
[06:59] <kanhaiya> we are not getting where should be geeting bottleneck
[06:59] <dm> bazhang will try, thanks
[06:59] <offline> i've installed ndiswrapper but i cant see wlan0 on ifconfig
[07:00] <Jester45> kanhaiya: idk it could be many thing im trying to narrow it down
[07:00] <raheem> ifconfig -a
[07:00] <kanhaiya> okay okay
[07:00] <danielm_mc> hello ubuntu!
[07:01] <offline> thank you
[07:01] <danielm_mc> i'm having a problem with 8.04 and the ath_pci module connecting to my WPA ...  i can connect to my router, but for some reason my box won't get a DHCP lease
[07:02] <danielm_mc> Jun 27 22:21:09 baikinman NetworkManager: <info>  DHCP daemon state is now 12 (successfully started) for interface ath0
[07:02] <danielm_mc> Jun 27 22:21:09 baikinman NetworkManager: <info>  Old device 'ath0' activating, won't change.
[07:02] <danielm_mc> Jun 27 22:21:09 baikinman dhclient: wifi0: unknown hardware address type 801
[07:02] <danielm_mc> Jun 27 22:21:09 baikinman avahi-autoipd(ath0)[6055]: Got SIGTERM, quitting.
[07:02] <danielm_mc> Jun 27 22:21:09 baikinman avahi-autoipd(ath0)[6055]: Callout STOP, address 169.254.5.192 on interface ath0
[07:02] <FloodBot1> danielm_mc: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:02] <danielm_mc> Jun 27 22:21:09 baikinman avahi-autoipd(ath0)[6056]: client: RTNETLINK answers: Cannot assign requested address
[07:02] <arooni-mobile> (1) how can i learn what model my cpu is (i know its a core 2 duo) ... but is there a way of getting more specific?  (2) is 66 *C and 44 *C mobo temp safe and ok?  do i need a new fan?
[07:03] <windowsIsForN00b> why do i get this when i try to launch this one program in terminal or by launcher, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23454/
[07:03] <danielm_mc> sry about the flood
[07:04] <PseudoBob> how can i make more room in my ubuntu partition?  im trying to move a file from a removable hard drive into wine, but it says i dont have any room on the disk
[07:04] <Derander> Has anyone experienced a problem with the behavior of the backspace key in insert mode after compiling vim7?
[07:04] <djie_efes> #malang
[07:05] <zinkele> IGNORE NOTI NOSAVE
[07:05] <PseudoBob> anyone?
[07:05] <danielm_mc> man, is anyone actually online that can help ?
[07:05] <PseudoBob> i guess not :(
[07:05] <danielm_mc> or is this just a room full of n00bs
[07:05] <windowsIsForN00b> Help?!?!?
[07:05] <windowsIsForN00b> why do i get this when i try to launch this one program in terminal or by launcher, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23454/
[07:05] <PseudoBob> just noobs like us
[07:05] <PseudoBob> anybody who doesn't help us is a noob
[07:05] <PseudoBob> go
[07:05] <dave11> !patience
[07:06] <PseudoBob> sorry :/
[07:06] <PseudoBob> excuse my impatience, it's late here :(
[07:06] <danielm_mc> psuedobob whats your q ?
[07:07] <PseudoBob> ﻿how can i make more room in my ubuntu partition?  im trying to move a file from a removable hard drive into wine, but it says i dont have any room on the disk
[07:07] <bazhang> PseudoBob, dont repeat so often
[07:07] <nicknameHere> PseudoBob: get a bigger hdd
[07:07] <zinkele> EXEC IGNORE NOTI NOSAVE
[07:07] <PseudoBob> he told me to repeat the question
[07:07] <PseudoBob> that was twice
[07:07] <Derander> nosave
[07:07] <bazhang> zinkele, stop
[07:07] <powertool|lappy> PseudoBob: delete stuff you don't need?
[07:07] <zinkele> OK
[07:08] <matthias_N> anyone knows hot to check for memory leak in ubuntu or have  ideas how to ...
[07:08] <PseudoBob> see, the hard drive has enough space
[07:08] <powertool|lappy> PseudoBob: or use gparted to make grow the partition if you have room to spare somewhere else
[07:08] <robin__> What virtualization should I use if I want to run Windows Vista in it? Do Ubuntu have any good virtualization software?
[07:08] <PseudoBob> because i just removed it from the hard drive in windows
[07:08] <Derander> Has anyone experienced a problem with the behavior of the backspace key in insert mode after compiling vim7?
[07:08] <bazhang> vmware or vbox robin__
[07:08] <PseudoBob> gparted
[07:08] <PseudoBob> i suppose ill look that up then, thanks
[07:08] <raheem> robin__: u can use xen, or vmware-server, or virtualbox
[07:08] <gooody> does emerald theme manager works with compiz?
[07:08] <mattlock> nicknameHere> how did you install that application?
[07:08] <bazhang> gooody, yes
[07:08] <raheem> gooody: yes
[07:08] <Felonious> Is there something faster than file roller?  This app appears to work 6x slower than winrar does
[07:09] <robin__> I'll look them all up, thanks bazhang and raheem!
[07:09] <bazhang> np
[07:09] <gooody> how am i going to apply the themes i created using emerald?
[07:09] <raheem> Felonious:  7zip may be
[07:09] <PseudoBob> oh, one more minor thing
[07:09] <dr_Willis> Felonious,  fileroller is most likely just a front end to the command line archive tools.
[07:09] <Jester45> PseudoBob: just run df -h in a terminal
[07:09] <NetEcho> Felonious fileroller is only a frontend for command line archive tools such as tar
[07:09] <PseudoBob> my screen gets cut off on the right side by like a quarter inch on the right side
[07:09] <dr_Willis> Felonious,  i have used winrar with wine , in the past.
[07:10] <Jester45> it will tell the % free and how many GBs
[07:10] <PseudoBob> anything i can do about that?
[07:10] <insertNameHere> mattlock: i didn't, i just downloaded it, it runs if i run the executable, just not in terminal or by launcher
[07:10] <Felonious> hmmm... so its normal that its very slow?
[07:10] <Derander> pseudobob: use your monitors tweaking tools (i.e. the buttons on the front)
[07:10] <PseudoBob> and thank you, jester
[07:10] <bazhang> PseudoBob, did you try changing the resolution
[07:10] <dr_Willis> Felonious,  depends on what sort of archive you are manking i imagine.
[07:10] <NetEcho> Felonious its only as fast as your system allows it to be and depends on the type of archive method
[07:10] <bazhang> !nickspam > nicknameHere
[07:10] <NetEcho> Felonious what type of archive were you making?
[07:10] <PseudoBob> heh, just had to hit auto image adjust
[07:10] <PseudoBob> lol, thank you again
[07:11] <Felonious> well dr_Willis it appears to be ALOT slower than winrar does extracting the exact same archive
[07:11] <Derander> pseudobob: no biggy
[07:11] <mattlock> insertNameHere: when you say 'run the executable', do you mean clicking its icon somewhere?
[07:11] <Jester45> PseudoBob: does your monitor have an auto config?
[07:11] <nicknameHere> srry
[07:11] <Felonious> I thought maybe it was something on my end causing this
[07:11] <NetEcho> Felonious is it a .rar file?
[07:11] <Derander> felonious: are you extracting a rar?
[07:11] <Felonious> yea
[07:11] <NetEcho> Felonious .rar is propriatary thats why
[07:11] <bazhang> !unrar
[07:11] <Derander> felonious: rars are non-free formats, it is reverse engineered
[07:11] <Felonious> so unrar isnt a rarlabs app?
[07:11] <Felonious> i thought it was, my mistake
[07:11] <NetEcho> Felonious no
[07:11] <Jester45> well 7zip does a good job with rars on windows at least
[07:12] <PseudoBob> when i used df -h, it told me i was using 3.4G of 3.6G
[07:12] <dr_Willis> Felonious,  rarlabs has released some linux stuff. but they sort of have some licensing 'limitations' also.
[07:12] <welkin> raheem>>>> i tried but its not coming..... i dont knw the sharedname
[07:12] <dr_Willis> Felonious,   I perfer to use 7zip mainly.
[07:12] <Jester45> the package unrar-free is the free version unrar isnt free
[07:12] <Felonious> i liked 7zip for windows
[07:12] <Derander> Has anyone experienced a problem with the behavior of the backspace key in insert mode after compiling vim7?
[07:12] <Felonious> Ill try it here
[07:13] <PseudoBob> but im dual booting, and i know theres plenty of room in windows
[07:13] <PseudoBob> what exactly does gparted do?
[07:13] <bazhang> !gparted
[07:13] <Felonious> 2nd issue, is there a fix for UDF burning in brasero?  I hate that I needed to download k3b in order to burn files over 2GB
[07:13] <danielm_mc> anyone wanna help with a WPA issue - madwifi / wpasupplicant dhcp issue ?
[07:13] <danielm_mc> ubuntu 8.04
[07:13] <Flynsarmy> How do you mount a bunch of ntfs hdd's? they didn't mount on boot for some reason and ntfs-config isn't helping
[07:13] <danielm_mc> AR5212
[07:14] <Derander> Bah, silly vim :-(
[07:14] <dr_Willis> Flynsarmy,  try the proper mount command from the terminal. Its possible they are marked as 'unclean' and needing to be checked by windows ,  you may need to use the force option.
[07:14] <Fybix> Word?
[07:14] <PseudoBob> man, i love ubuntu
[07:15] <danielm_mc> i normally love ubuntu except when i can't connect to wireless with my AR5212
[07:15] <PseudoBob> alright, i've got gparted installed now
[07:15] <Flynsarmy> dr_Willis, how do you unmount something?
[07:15] <dr_Willis> Flynsarmy,  sudo umount   (note the lack of an N)
[07:15] <PseudoBob> what should i do now?
[07:16] <cirkit> Ubuntu is always unable to find my wireless SSID, but not others. :/
[07:16] <Felonious> Would I have better luck with smoothness on video files if I switch to the Xine backend for totem with high res h264 video files?
[07:16] <cirkit> Belkin-N router.
[07:16] <nicknameHere> how do i change the default program a file (mp3) is opened with
[07:17] <danielm_mc> yeah i have a WRT45GS (or wtfe) and an x61 thinkpad with an AR5212 wireless card
[07:17] <bazhang> Felonious, you tried vlc?
[07:17] <Felonious> wow not for linux no
[07:17] <Felonious> i didnt even think of that
[07:17] <Felonious> lol
[07:17] <PseudoBob> im kinda scared using this thing
[07:17] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install vlc Felonious
[07:17] <PseudoBob> the whole UMD thing about it
[07:18] <Felonious> trying to watch a 720p h264 has not gone well so far
[07:18] <Derander> Has anyone experienced a problem with the behavior of the backspace key in insert mode after compiling vim7?  For some reason, I can only backspace delete text that I've entered in that particular insert.
[07:18] <danielm_mc> !derander - did you check your .vimrc ?
[07:18] <cirkit> nicknameHere: open Konqueror > right click mp3 file > open with other > select app you want > click checkbox "Remember application association for this type of file"
[07:18] <Derander> danielm_mc: yes, what should I be looking for?
[07:19] <nicknameHere> cirkit: i use GNOME
[07:19] <danielm_mc> derander - what version did you upgrade from?
[07:19] <nano_> is there a specific channel to discuss pulseaudio?
[07:19] <danielm_mc> nano_ - &@($ pulseaudio
[07:20] <Derander> danielm_mc: 7.  I just compiled instead of using aptitude this time because there is a problem in the repo version
[07:20] <danielm_mc> use rhythmbox
[07:20] <nano_> danielm_mc, ;)
[07:20] <xrawyx> 	
[07:20] <bazhang> http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup nano_ you seen this?
[07:20] <xrawyx> and downloaded firefox 3 beta but not able to install or update it and I could help
[07:20] <nano_> bazhang, i currently have that open
[07:20] <danielm_mc> derander - ewww
[07:20] <nano_> i had a simple question...
[07:20] <bazhang> xrawyx, downloaded from where
[07:20] <PseudoBob> so, i've got gparted open now
[07:20] <Derander> danielm_mc: ?
[07:20] <Felonious> bazhang, nah vlc isnt gonna work.  Not getting any video
[07:21] <danielm_mc> derander: try moving your .vimrc to bak.vimrc and then try your backspace key
[07:21] <bazhang> Felonious, you got compiz on or off
[07:21] <nano_> when i issue "ps -AF | grep pulse" i see that pulseaudio is running; however, when i issue "pulseaudio --check" there is no output, which would mean that pulseaudio is not loaded
[07:21] <PseudoBob> how do i identify the ubuntu partition?
[07:21] <bazhang> PseudoBob, you want to resize the ntfs partition?
[07:21] <Felonious> err i turned effects to none
[07:21] <Derander>   danielm_mc: no luck
[07:21] <nicknameHere> in gnome how do i set the default app for a file to be opened with
[07:22] <PseudoBob> i want to get more space in my ubuntu partition
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[07:22] <PseudoBob> because i've got about 10 gigs free in windows, and need 9 here
[07:22] <bazhang> nicknameHere, right click properties open with
[07:22] <bazhang> xrawyx, you on gutsy or hardy
[07:22] <nicknameHere> bazhang: but that does not set it as the default
[07:22] <xrawyx> 7.10
[07:23] <bazhang> !firefox
[07:23] <xrawyx> gx
[07:23] <Moj1> I've installed ubuntu, but accidentally changed the video driver in a settings window. Now there is just a black screen on boot. What can I do?
[07:23] <danielm_mc> derander : are you running gnome and opening a term, using the console...  whats your env look like ?
[07:23] <surplusxmas> Is there any quick shell command that will dump specs for my machine? RAM count, CPU clockspeed, etc.?
[07:23] <danielm_mc> surplusxmas : check /proc
[07:23] <Derander> danielm_mc: it is the default environment from a fresh ubuntu install, I've had no cause  to mess with it
[07:23] <PseudoBob> does that make any sense?
[07:23] <surplusxmas> danielm_mc: Thank you.
[07:23] <Frogzoo> surplusxmas: lshw - but it's not standard
[07:23] <Derander> daniel_mc: running gnome, opening gnome-terminal
[07:24] <Derander> daniel_mc: I'll give it a shot through a tty real fast
[07:24] <danielm_mc> derander:  yeah it sounds like your terminal settings aren't right
[07:24] <Moj1> Hey guys, could someone help me change my video driver? I changed it by accident and I don't know how to reset it.
[07:24] <Felonious> bazhang, plays alot better in mplayer though
[07:24] <danielm_mc> derander:  probably fekt coz you didn't use the repo
[07:24] <Derander> danielm_mc: the repo version works, but it seg faults with rails.vim
[07:24] <bazhang> PseudoBob, you want to erase that ntfs partition (delete) or resize it
[07:25] <dave11> !konversation
[07:25] <PseudoBob> so the ntfs one is for my windows files?
[07:25] <bazhang> !info envyng-gtk | Moj1
[07:25] <bazhang> PseudoBob, yes
[07:25] <Felonious> well i thought it did, but mplayer desyncs the audio :(
[07:25] <Frogzoo> Moj1: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[07:26] <danielm_mc> derander : bwahaha - ruby??!!
[07:26] <PseudoBob> alright, so i want to reduce the size of that so i can add free space to the fat32 partition
[07:26] <Derander> danielm_mc: Mmhmm.
[07:26] <PseudoBob> which i believe is the ubuntu partition
[07:26] <Moj1> bazhang: It's not nvidia - it's intel integrated
[07:26] <bazhang> Moj1, for hardy use my suggestion, for gutsy use Frogzoo 's
[07:26] <Moj1> thank you Frogzoo
[07:26] <danielm_mc> derander: were you doing apt-get install vim-full ?
[07:26] <Moj1> I have 7.10 ubuntu
[07:26] <danielm_mc> derander: or were you just using the default install of vim from 8.04?
[07:26] <bazhang> Moj1, in that case for hardy sudo displayconfig-gtk
[07:26] <Derander> daniel_mc: yes, the seg-fault is a long standing bug
[07:27] <welkin> raheem>>>>frogzoo>>> do u know how to see shared files frm a windows file in terminal connected in lan
[07:27] <danielm_mc> derander:  hittin you up in private, too much chatter
[07:27] <bazhang> PseudoBob, you have to be very careful with gparted.
[07:27] <PseudoBob> i know
[07:27] <PseudoBob> im pretty scared right now
[07:27] <bazhang> PseudoBob, are your files backed up?
[07:28] <magnetron> hi! i'm connecting to to a ssh server. the server is using a iso-latin1 (ISO8859-1) locale, my ubuntu client is using a UTF-8 locale. the characters are messed up, how should i correct to view all chars?
[07:28] <PseudoBob> Nope...
[07:28] <nicknameHere> in gnome how do i set the default app for a file to be opened with
[07:28] <PseudoBob> Think I should probably do that before proceeding?
[07:28] <Moj1> I'm running from a LiveCD now, I can't load up my installed ubuntu because I changed driver. Should I run 'displayconfig-gtk' in the terminal?
[07:28] <bazhang> PseudoBob, you might consider getting the gparted livecd; not backing up is seriously risky though.
[07:29] <bazhang> Moj1, that wont help with live cd
[07:29] <bazhang> Moj1, and since you are on gutsy you need to run Frogzoo 's command from command line in your install not the live cd
[07:30] <Moj1> @bazhang: can I just copy the video driver setting file that's loaded into the RAMdisk (guessing that's how livecd works) onto disk?
[07:30] <Moj1> okay I'll try that, thank you
[07:30] <PseudoBob> So without using GParted all I can do is delete files I don't need?
[07:30] <PseudoBob> Because my Ubuntu partition is pretty small.
[07:30] <bazhang> Moj1, best to drop to a shell and do it that way.
[07:31] <PseudoBob> 3,6 Gigs.
[07:31] <bazhang> PseudoBob, gparted is for resizing, deleting or creating new partitions
[07:31] <dr_Willis> PseudoBob,  you could resize the ntfs. make a new linux partition in the now freed up space. and just mount that new space to your linux system somewhere to use it.
[07:31] <Mr_Giraffe> hey, for some reason my usb mouse isn't working at all, and my /proc/bus/usb/ directory is totally empty
[07:31] <PseudoBob> What do you mean mount it?
[07:31] <Mr_Giraffe> what can i do to fix my mouse?
[07:32] <bazhang> Mr_Giraffe, which mouse
[07:32] <Mr_Giraffe> bazhang, usb
[07:32] <PseudoBob> Wait, couldn't I add that space to the existing fat32 partition?
[07:32] <Mr_Giraffe> nothing comes up in messages, syslog, or dmesg about it
[07:32] <engineer> PseudoBob use deborphan
[07:33] <PseudoBob> What's different with deborphan?
[07:33] <engineer> man deborphan
[07:33] <nano_> if I go into VolumeControl>File>Change Device, i get a choice of mixers...in this context, what do "mixers" mean?
[07:33] <bazhang> !info deborphan
[07:34] <Kirix> anyone use Unichrome or Openchrome drivers?
[07:35] <nano_> if I go into VolumeControl>File>Change Device, i get a choice of mixers...in this context, what do "mixers" mean?
[07:35] <Mr_Giraffe> bazhang, any idea what it could be?
[07:35] <bazhang> Mr_Giraffe, what make and model of mouse
[07:36] <Frogzoo> !mouse | Mr_Giraffe
[07:36] <PseudoBob> So in GParted, couldn't I reduce the size of the ntfs partition, then raise the size of the fat32 partition?
[07:36] <magnetron> hi! i'm connecting to to a ssh server. the server is using a iso-latin1 (ISO8859-1) locale, my ubuntu client is using a UTF-8 locale. the characters are messed up, how should i connect to view all chars?
[07:36] <Mr_Giraffe> belkin F8E825-USB
[07:36] <PseudoBob> How risky is that?
[07:36] <Mr_Giraffe> however, it doesn't work with any mouse at all
[07:36] <aldo> hi
[07:37] <Frogzoo> Mr_Giraffe: oh that's bad... tail -f /var/log/messages & plug it in, see if it gets detected
[07:37] <bazhang> Mr_Giraffe, is there issue with those usb ports?
[07:37] <Mr_Giraffe> Frogzoo, it doesn't
[07:37] <Mr_Giraffe> and bazhang no
[07:37] <magnetron> PseudoBob: you can do it. and what kind of estimate of the risk do you want? 99%? 1%? 0.00001%?
[07:37] <Frogzoo> Mr_Giraffe: try a different mouse
[07:37] <Mr_Giraffe> i already did tail on /var/log/messages, /var/log/syslog, and dmesg
[07:37] <Mr_Giraffe> Frogzoo, i did
[07:37] <Kirix> anyone using UniChrome or OpenChrome display drivers?
[07:37] <bazhang> no detection and no hardware issue? that is odd.
[07:37] <Mr_Giraffe> also, /proc/bus/usb/ is empty
[07:38] <PseudoBob> Well, I don't have any of my files backed up.
[07:38] <magnetron> PseudoBob: look, no one here will tell you that there's no risk. YOU have to take the responsibility of managing your disk.
[07:38] <bazhang> Mr_Giraffe, you using vbox or other virtualizers?
[07:38] <Mr_Giraffe> nope
[07:38] <Frogzoo> Mr_Giraffe: hald is running?
[07:38] <Mr_Giraffe> Frogzoo, just did ps -e | grep hald
[07:38] <Mr_Giraffe> and it's running
[07:39] <PseudoBob> Well, I can't reduce the size of the ntfs partition.
[07:39] <PseudoBob> There's a weird keys icon on it.
[07:39] <Frogzoo> Mr_Giraffe: I'd say google for linux + belkin mouse
[07:40] <Mr_Giraffe> Frogzoo, it's not the mouse
[07:40] <Mr_Giraffe> it doesn't work with a gigaware mouse either
[07:40] <Felonious> Im trying to complete this, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=127563 but I cannot get past line #4.  I get an error from apt saying "Package libdvdcss2 has no installation candidate"
[07:40] <Felonious> what do I do?
[07:40] <bazhang> Felonious, get it from medibuntu
[07:41] <dr_Willis> !dcss
[07:41] <dr_Willis> !dvd
[07:41] <Felonious> !mediabuntu
[07:42] <Felonious> !Mediabuntu
[07:42] <dr_Willis> its 'medibuntu'
[07:42] <bazhang> www.medibuntu.org Felonious
[07:42] <Felonious> !Medibuntu
[07:42] <bullgard4> I am not interested in compiz. I am using Ubuntu 8.04 GNOME. How can I safely get rid of compiz and not get it reloaded at the next automatic update?
[07:42] <dr_Willis> bullgard4,  it may be safest to just not use it...
[07:43] <bazhang> uninstall it bullgard4 or just shut it off for good.
[07:43] <dr_Willis> bullgard4,  removing  compiz can cause some annoying issues.
[07:43] <Mr_Giraffe> Frogzoo, bazhang: is there nothing i can do...?
[07:43] <knightwise> just google : medibuntu one click and you'll find a manual on how to do it
[07:43] <Mr_Giraffe> cause i really can't use an OS that doesn't even have support for my USB ports
[07:43] <bazhang> Mr_Giraffe, other items plugged into that usb port work?
[07:43] <Mr_Giraffe> bazhang, the only thing i've tried is a flash drive and that worked
[07:43] <bazhang> knightwise, we are smarter than google :)
[07:44] <afallenhope> anyone know why I can't use a JPEG webcam on stickam?
[07:44] <PseudoBob> What does it mean to umount a partition
[07:44] <Felonious> thanks
[07:44] <PseudoBob> Er, unmount.
[07:44] <PseudoBob> And throw a question mark at the end of that sentence...
[07:44] <sp00n> Hello everyone.  I am unable to mount a windows share via samba.  It was working earlier and now it times out.
[07:44] <dr_Willis> PseudoBob,  make it where its not accessable by the os. a filesystem Must be mounted for it to be see/read/written to.
[07:44] <bazhang> PseudoBob, mounted partitions cant be edited
[07:45] <dr_Willis> PseudoBob,  'sudo umount /dev/hda1' (for example0 would unmoint the hda1 filesystem
[07:45] <PseudoBob> So if I unmount that partition, I make it smaller?
[07:45] <sp00n> PseudoBob, also, note that the command to unmount is *umount*, not *unmount*
[07:45] <bazhang> Mr_Giraffe, pastebin the output of lshw to paste.ubuntu.com
[07:45] <PseudoBob> Then would I have to remount it?
[07:45] <dr_Willis> PseudoBob,  there are some tasks that can only be safely done to unmounted filesystems.
[07:46] <LSD|Ninja> Is the login prompt on 8.04 in the bottom right because someone thought it would be stylish or because it's in the centre of a screen I can only see 2/3 of?
[07:46] <Eleaf> it's weird, almost all the linux vst plugins don't work in renoise
[07:46] <dr_Willis> PseudoBob,  to access a filesystem for normal  access.. it needs to be mounted.
[07:46] <sp00n> LSD|Ninja, it's in the middle for me....
[07:46] <PseudoBob> Alright, so I wouldn't be able to run windows after unmounting it then?
[07:46] <dr_Willis> LSD|Ninja,  could be gdm is gettting the res wrong.
[07:47] <dr_Willis> PseudoBob,  windows has nothing to do with it.
[07:47] <PseudoBob> I'm still pretty slow with this stuff....
[07:47] <LSD|Ninja> dr_Willis: I'm styarting to get that impression. Ubuntu has never got that right.
[07:47] <dr_Willis> PseudoBob,  One normally mounts a filesystem. uses that filesystem. and then when linux shuts down. it unmounts them.
[07:47] <nicknameHere> how do u set default apps in gnome
[07:47] <dr_Willis> LSD|Ninja,  i always have the wrong res. till i get the nvidia drivers installed.
[07:47] <PseudoBob> Huh.
[07:48] <LSD|Ninja> Only reason I'm asking is because I'm finding myself in need of the rebbot button on GDM and it's not there
[07:48] <Felonious> Why do people put together step by step tutorials and not tell you where to get these files
[07:48] <Mr_Giraffe> bazhang, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23462/
[07:48] <bazhang> nicknameHere, what about system prefs preferred applications
[07:48] <bullgard4> dr_Willis: My Ubuntu grows fat and fatter. I feel the need to confine the growth. (I already devoted another Windows partition to Ubuntu.) Where is  to be found  a more qualifying satement than "removing  compiz can cause some annoying issues"?
[07:48] <sp00n> Can someone help me mount my remote windows share?
[07:48] <PseudoBob> Somehow, I'm still not getting something here.  Why is the partition for windows mounted?
[07:49] <LSD|Ninja> dr_Willis: I have the nVidia drivers installed but gdm is still getting the res not quite right (It knows I want 1024x768 but is loading what I imagine is the 1280x1024 theme. Ubuntu always thinks I want 1280x1024)
[07:49] <webcamwonder> PseudoBob: In order to access any specific partition, it needs to be mounted first
[07:49] <bullgard4> bazhang: dr_Willis says "removing  compiz can cause some annoying issues." How to safely uninstall compiz?
[07:49] <dr_Willis> bullgard4,  removing compiz isent going to save much space. -  theres some sort of default window managers settings that  i have seen get confused/broken - when you remove compiz. It may be fixed now under hardy. But i spent part of a day under gutsy figureing otu what went wrong on my laptop after i removed compiz.
[07:49] <PseudoBob> so the unmounted ones...
[07:49] <dr_Willis> bullgard4,  so its best to cautious. :)
[07:49] <nicknameHere> bazhang: i changed it in preferred apps and nothing happened
[07:49] <sp00n> LSD|Ninja, I had an installation a while ago that couldn't load X because it had the refresh rate for the monitor wrong.  Editing your xorg conf or rc conf can set the correct resolution for starting the gdm
[07:50] <bazhang> bullgard4, safest would be to set it off
[07:50] <LSD|Ninja> removing all the old kernels the update manager never bothers too will probably save more space then removing compiz
[07:50] <dr_Willis> and cleaning out the apt cache will save space also
[07:50] <webcamwonder> PseudoBob: Unmounted partitions cannot be "explored" using your file manager normally
[07:50] <LSD|Ninja> sp00n: 7.10 got it right. This is just another in a long line of ridiculous regressions in Hardy
[07:50] <bullgard4> dr_Willis, bazhang: Thank you for your comments.
[07:51] <webcamwonder> PseudoBob: If you try to access any partition and if it happens to be unmounted, Ubuntu automatically mounts them
[07:51] <bazhang> Mr_Giraffe, there is just the single usb port? this is 64bit ubuntu running on an amd?
[07:51] <sp00n> LSD|Ninja, I completely agree.  I switched back to linux about a week ago, used 7.10 for a day, upgred to Hardy and have spent a week googling hardy bug reports...
[07:51] <webcamwonder> PseudoBob: And they normally show up on your desktop, which you can unmount by right clicking and selecting unmount volume
[07:51] <Mr_Giraffe> bazhang, there are 3 usb ports...
[07:51] <Mr_Giraffe> and yes, on a 64 bit amd
[07:52] <nicknameHere> how do u make apps start on boot??
[07:52] <dr_Willis> 'unmount' = 'safely remove' in the menus :)  not sure why some times you see unmount, and otehrs you see safely remove
[07:52] <bazhang> Mr_Giraffe, the usb controller reports as unclaimed, and only one usb port shows up
[07:52] <LSD|Ninja> sp00n: there used to be a half-decent resolution control app in 7.10. It's gone in 8.04.
[07:52] <PseudoBob> Ok, ok.
[07:52] <webcamwonder> dr_Willis: Some guy didn't drink enough coffee :)
[07:52] <dr_Willis> then theres 'eject' that unmounts, then ejects the cd.. but ive seen it on other non-cd devices also
[07:52] <bazhang> nicknameHere, system prefs sessions
[07:52] <PseudoBob> So why won't it let me unmount this partition?
[07:52] <PseudoBob> The ntfs partition?
[07:52] <Mr_Giraffe> bazhang, exactly, but i know that all USB ports work since the flash drive has worked in all of them
[07:52] <dr_Willis> I warned a guy at work to be ready to catch his usb thumb drive when the PC spit it out at him as he used eject....
[07:52] <webcamwonder> PsuedoBob: Are you using it?
[07:52] <dr_Willis> :)
[07:53] <PseudoBob> I suppose I am...
[07:53] <nicknameHere> bazhang: many thanks
[07:53] <PseudoBob> But I don't know what is.
[07:53] <webcamwonder> PseudoBob: You cannot unmount a partition that is being read/write to
[07:53] <sp00n> LSD|Ninja, My installation has it, once you've logged in.  Might be because I upgraded from 7.10 though, or else cuz I'm running gnome right now
[07:53] <PseudoBob> How do I know what's using that partition?
[07:53] <bazhang> Mr_Giraffe, and you tried the mouse in all three ports?
[07:54] <Mr_Giraffe> bazhang, yes
[07:54] <webcamwonder> You need to use the command that searches for openfiles... of which I got no clue
[07:54] <bazhang> hmm. odd
[07:54] <PseudoBob> I thought there'd be a command.  Anyone know it?
[07:54] <magnetron> hi! i'm connecting to to a ssh server. the server is using a iso-latin1 (ISO8859-1) locale, my ubuntu client is using a UTF-8 locale. the characters are messed up, how should i connect to be able to view all chars?
[07:55] <bazhang> Mr_Giraffe, does the live cd let you use them all? ie does the mouse work with the livecd?
[07:55] <LSD|Ninja> sp00n: There's two. One is the utterly useless one in the Preferences section of the menu (which I still have) and the other, better, one was in the Administration section (which disappeared in the upgrade). It may still be there (like the sharing control panel is) but I have nfi what it was called
[07:55] <sp00n> If someone could help me mount a remote samba share I would greatly appreciate it.  I have been doing so with no problems for a while but now it times out every time.
[07:55] <bazhang> LSD|Ninja, what is nfi
[07:55] <Mr_Giraffe> bazhang, i actually used the wubi util since i couldn't get a CD
[07:55] <LSD|Ninja> bazhang: no %^*&%&*( idea
[07:55] <magnetron> sp00n: aer you using the smbfs or CIFS filesystem in your mount command?
[07:55] <bazhang> LSD|Ninja, keep it family friendly thanks
[07:56] <sp00n> LSD|Ninja, mine is in system->administration.  It's not fantastic but it works OK
[07:56] <bazhang> Mr_Giraffe, this is a wubi install?
[07:56] <Mr_Giraffe> yes
[07:56] <Mr_Giraffe> should i just reinstall with a livecd...?
[07:56] <sp00n> magnetron, I have tried both.  When I leave off the -t option, which I understand should attempt autodetect, it times out with the message to refer to mount.cifs man page
[07:56] <Mr_Giraffe> (one would hope that maybe wubi worked as advertised...)
[07:56] <bazhang> Mr_Giraffe, first try the livecd; dualbooting is superior to wubi imo (if you can use your mice)
[07:57] <PseudoBob> Can anyone tell me the command to show open files?
[07:57] <magnetron> sp00n: sounds like you have network problems.
[07:57] <sp00n> magnetron, I believe I may have changed a conf file or system setting somewhere that broke my samba
[07:57] <bazhang> Mr_Giraffe, wubi is a 'work in progress' :)
[07:57] <sp00n> magnetron, no, my virtual box is able to connect to it fine
[07:57] <Mr_Giraffe> :/
[07:57] <Mr_Giraffe> great.
[07:57] <danielm_mc> i'm also having network problems with my AR5212 using madwifi and wpasupplicant.
[07:57] <Mr_Giraffe> perhaps it should be labeled as such?
[07:57] <magnetron> sp00n: then you changed the wrong setting :/ do you have a backup of the smb.conf?
[07:57] <bazhang> danielm_mc, what does ifconfig show; two entries or three
[07:58] <dstrbdfrk1> can someone im me who can help me with the compiz  cube effect
[07:58] <Mr_Giraffe> it's awfully annoying when it says "install without needing a cd!  it's great!  do it now!" and then i find out 3 days later that it's not going to work.
[07:58] <dr_Willis> !cube | dstrbdfrk1
[07:58] <bazhang> Mr_Giraffe, we always tell folks to dual boot here.
[07:58] <Mr_Giraffe> well that's nice, but the site doesn't
[07:58] <sp00n> magnetron, yes, but the only difference in the backup was adding a share of my own
[07:58] <dstrbdfrk1> thanx
[07:58] <bazhang> Mr_Giraffe, to remove the wubi install is quite easy though.
[07:59] <Eleaf> cous cous
[07:59] <Mr_Giraffe> bazhang, how?
[07:59] <fma243> hello
[07:59] <Flannel> Mr_Giraffe: Add/remove programs in windows, and remove it
[07:59] <bazhang> Eleaf, english please
[07:59] <sp00n> magnetron, I can reinstate the backup and restart samba but I'm pretty sure that's not the problem
[07:59] <Mr_Giraffe> how convenient\
[07:59] <fma243> i am currently trying to isntall ubuntu can any one help me through
[07:59] <nano_> if i run a job from terminal such as "find xxxxx &" it will go into the background, how can i bring this job into foreground
[07:59] <Mr_Giraffe> well then, thanks, i'll burn an ubuntu proper CD before doing that
[07:59] <dr_Willis> nano_,  'fg' command
[07:59] <dr_Willis> nano_,  time to check some bash guides/tutorials on 'job controll'
[07:59] <Eleaf> couscous
[07:59] <nano_> dr_Willis, okay, then if i can do that, and then i wan to send it back into background,....?
[07:59] <bazhang> Mr_Giraffe, be sure to check the livecd and mice before installing though
[07:59] <Flannel> nano_:
[08:00] <bazhang> Eleaf, stop
[08:00] <magnetron> sp00n: "it SHOULD work"... i've done modifications like that several times, that wreck my setup even if they are small
[08:00] <fma243> i am on the partition manager thing what should i do
[08:00] <Eleaf> lol
[08:00] <Eleaf> couscous is food bazhang ..
[08:00] <danielm_mc> bazhang : 4
[08:00] <Flannel> nano_: "jobs" will give you a listing, %X where X is the number (or fg) will bring it to the foreground
[08:00] <dr_Willis> nano_,     ctrl-z, and bg command. ( i think) again - time to check 'job controll bash' tutorials. :)
[08:00] <fma243> hello some help here
[08:00] <nano_> Flannel, how can i send the job back into background...(Ctrl-Z may just end up stopping it)
[08:00] <dr_Willis> nano_,  its a rather in depth topic with a lot of neat.. things. :)
[08:01] <sp00n> magnetron, while I am reinstating the backup ... it worked after the changes I made .. I backed up before I added my share.  Is there a possibility of not being able to connect to remote shares if you mess up a section for adding your own share?
[08:01] <bazhang> danielm_mc, and what does sudo dhclient wlan0 report (any dhcpoffers?)
[08:01] <Flannel> nano_: stop it, and then bg #
[08:01] <fma243> ....
[08:01] <magnetron> sp00n: yes.
[08:01] <bazhang> danielm_mc, or ath0 in this case
[08:01] <fma243> how should i set the Partition
[08:01] <nano_> Flannel, sweet, thnx man
[08:02] <bazhang> fma243, we need more info
[08:02] <[[thufir]]> how do you refer to the home path?   $home/Desktop   ?   or something else?
[08:02] <Flannel> thansen|laptop: $HOME is home.  Which is also ~
[08:02] <Flannel> [[thufir]]: ^ thats for you
[08:02] <fma243> well i have just started ubuntu i running through the live cd i have 4 partitions i want to install ubuntu on a 5 gb one
[08:02] <nano_> if I go into VolumeControl>File>Change Device, i get to choose between ALSA,OSS,PulseAudio.....does this mean that whatever I select will be my acting sound server, and the rest will sit idle?
[08:02] <Sa[i]nT> Ok, .img files, can I convert them to ISO?
[08:02] <CaptainMorgan> wow... support for media such as digital cameras and cell phones in ubuntu have really improved - thank you!
[08:03] <[[thufir]]> I mean in conversation. you would write ~/whatever  meaning /home/thufir/whatever ?
[08:03] <bazhang> fma243, this is the guided one? then choose that partition and install to it
[08:03] <Flannel> [[thufir]]: yes, /home/username/
[08:03] <fma243> no i am using manual guided one just creates one partition
[08:03] <[[thufir]]> Flannel: or, you could write ~/   meaning the same thing, or would you write ~/username/  ?
[08:03] <sp00n> magnetron, how do you restart samba again?  I momentarily forgot.  thought it was /etc/init.d/samba restart
[08:03] <fma243> and making it system root
[08:03] <bazhang> Eleaf, stay on topic
[08:04] <Flannel> [[thufir]]: No, ~/ is the same as /home/username/
[08:04] <Eleaf> bazhang, I'm eating couscous, which is basically wheat semolina.. just trying to be social
[08:04] <Eleaf> no worries buddy
[08:04] <Flannel> Eleaf: Social is in #ubuntu-offtopic, not here, thanks.
[08:04] <bazhang> Eleaf, that is offtopic here.
[08:04] <[[thufir]]> Flannel: thanks.   silly question perhaps, but...
[08:04] <klenz87> hey is this at all possible i have two grapics cards in stalled a geforce4 mx 4000 and a geforce2 mx\mx 400 can i run a second screen off the geforce 2???
[08:04] <Eleaf> Flannel, It's been 1.5 years and I'm still banned from there
[08:05] <Flannel> Eleaf: #ubuntu-ops, being banned from there is no excuse for bad manners here.
[08:05] <bazhang> Eleaf, then watch your step here.
[08:05] <godao> Hi there. A modified version(overclocked by manufacter) of a Geforce, like 8600 GT with 512mb (instead of deafault 256mb) can run normaly on Ubuntu ?
[08:05] <Eleaf> bazhang, yeah, no problem, just didn't know a random food gesture was off topic, ubuntu stuff now
[08:05] <bazhang> godao, you are troubleshooting or have yet to install ubuntu
[08:05] <nano_> anybody know the answer to my last question......somebody outta
[08:05] <sp00n> magnetron, when samba starts I get this error message.  Is this possibly related? /usr/sbin/smbd: /usr/local/lib/liblber-2.4.so.2: no version information available (required by /usr/sbin/smbd)
[08:05] <nano_> if I go into VolumeControl>File>Change Device, i get to choose between ALSA,OSS,PulseAudio.....does this mean that whatever I select will be my acting sound server, and the rest will sit idle?
[08:06] <bazhang> Eleaf, stop.
[08:06] <Eleaf> apologizing?
[08:06] <Eleaf> let's let it go
[08:06] <danielm_mc> bazhang:  it's the problem where there is a PSK exchange but dhclient just keeps doing DHCPDISCOVER's 7 times and then gives up
[08:07] <fma243> i am not getting much support here
[08:07] <sp00n> Still not working...
[08:07] <dr_Willis> fma243,  one normally makes at least 2 partitions, one for / and one for swap.
[08:08] <godao> bazhang: the manufacter does not have a linux driver for the modified version, but I can download the original version of this gpu for linux at nvidia's official. but will it run overclocked like in windows drivers ?
[08:08] <sp00n> fma243, what is your question?  I am a recent linux user but I can try to help
[08:08] <fma243> so how should i set them i am trying like a 5gb one making it a ext3 and a 1gb swap
[08:08] <nano_> anybody can help with general questions about sound?
[08:09] <sp00n> magnetron, still having the issue....any suggestions?
[08:09] <dr_Willis> fma243,  depending on how the rest of the hd is laid out. You may need to make a extended partition for the whole 5gb, then 2 logicals inside it. one of 4.5 gb for / and a .5gb for swap.
[08:09] <fma243> i ll try
[08:09] <dr_Willis> fma243,  i normally free up some space and make it 'unallocated' and let the ubuntu installer auto partition inside the unallocated space.
[08:10] <fma243> should i use ext2 or ext3
[08:10] <Flannel> !away > jedimind|zzzz j
[08:11] <jedimind|zzzz> hah
[08:11] <jedimind|zzzz> sorry to disturb the 5 minutes of idling that was going on
[08:12] <sp00n> ...
[08:12] <sp00n> bump
[08:13] <fma243> i am trying hope it works
[08:14] <magnetron> sp00n: maybe you have network problems.
[08:14] <sp00n> magnetron, My VirtualBox running XP can connect to the windows share through my network, and I can ping the machine I am trying to connect to.  It was working fine until today.  I don't know what broke it.
[08:16] <sp00n> I am going to reinstall all the samba packages.  I don't know if I was getting that "version information unavailable" error before I was having connection rpbolems.
[08:16] <magnetron> sp00n: do NOT reinstall samba
[08:16] <webcamwonder> !trash
[08:16] <magnetron> sp00n: you  know, it's impossible for me to know what's wrong without more details from you.
[08:17] <anonymouss> I don't quite get it, why is the stable rep in 8.04 unstable? What happened to "just works"?
[08:17] <sp00n> magnetron, understood.  What other details can I give you?
[08:17] <ariqs> where is a good online place to shop for laptops for a good price?
[08:17] <anonymouss> I've had this crash 10 times in the past 3 days
[08:17] <sp00n> ariqs, best buy ;)
[08:17] <ariqs> seriously, best buy?
[08:18] <anonymouss> ariqs: do you plan on using this laptop?
[08:18] <sp00n> j/k
[08:18] <anonymouss> ariqs: if not, www.geeks.com
[08:18] <ariqs> I never go for those rebate schemes. They're far too annoying
[08:18] <magnetron> sp00n: a printout of your smb.conf. the specific mount command and error. paste it to a pastebin, like paste.ubuntu.com
[08:18] <sp00n> although, walmart actually had a good deal on a AMD64 (vista >:|) laptop
[08:19] <danielm_mc> hey does anyone know how to change the F1 mapping in gnome ?
[08:19] <sp00n> ariqs, compaq AMD64 dual core, with some kinda decent video card, for like $600
[08:19] <ariqs> anonymouss: why would I want a laptop I didn't plan on using?
[08:19] <anonymouss> ariqs: server
[08:19] <ariqs> server laptop? how peculiar
[08:20] <anonymouss> i'm running my ubuntu-server site on a 500mhz powerbook
[08:20] <dr_Willis> a portable server. :)
[08:20] <ariqs> sp00n: I don't want an AMD cpu right now. Core2 duos are better
[08:20] <Flannel> ariqs: Think of it as a low power server, with built in UPS
[08:20] <anonymouss> g4 256 mb ram
[08:20] <ariqs> heh
[08:20] <anonymouss> trouble is, if power goes, so does your modem
[08:20] <anonymouss> ﻿ariqs: i was half joking
[08:20] <sp00n> ariqs, are they?  I haven't been keeping up too much.
[08:21] <anonymouss> ﻿ariqs: i just wouldn't trust a cheap refurb laptop
[08:21] <sp00n> magnetron, making pastebin
[08:21] <danielm_mc> airqs: that'll change next month
[08:21] <danielm_mc> amd vs intel is a moving target
[08:21] <danielm_mc> blah
[08:21] <ariqs> i'm not looking for refurb, and I already know of a site that has good deals on laptops. the problem is, they're newegg and newegg tried to bribe me so I refuse to use their website
[08:21] <sp00n> ariqs, tried to bribe you?
[08:22] <ariqs> intel has been ahead for a long while
[08:22] <Flannel> Hey guys, mind taking this topic to #ubuntu-offtopic?  thanks
[08:22] <ariqs> sp00n: yes, I gave them a negative review on resellerratings, and they offered me like $80 to remove it
[08:22] <aLeSD> why man malloc gives me an unexistent man page ?
[08:23] <anonymouss> is it considered discourteous in IRC to send a message directly to someone, to not flood the channel?
[08:23] <Flannel> anonymouss: Usually you use pastebin
[08:24] <ariqs> depends on the user, anonymouss. I say don't worry about it and let the person complain if it bugs mhem
[08:24] <anonymouss> ok
[08:24] <sp00n> magnetron, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23469/   The samba conf file is not changed from the default it puts in, cuz it worked for me without needing to change it.  The error message I got is ontop
[08:24] <anonymouss> i installed a pidgin plugin that automatically dumps man pages into IM/IRC
[08:24] <sp00n> ariqs, I would've accepted and written a review about it!
[08:25] <diggs> any brainstorm admins in here?
[08:25] <anonymouss> puts a whole new angle to rtfm
[08:28] <Killeroid> anonymouss: what plugin is this?linky please
[08:29] <anonymouss> Killeroid: I assume you are on ubuntu? (q is am i right)
[08:29] <Killeroid> anonymouss: yes, i am on ubuntu
[08:30] <anonymouss> Killeroid: sudo apt-get install pidgin-plugin-pack
[08:30] <ariqs> what is a tcpview like program for linux?
[08:30] <fraroco> How can I know it what kind of memory ram has my machine ?
[08:30] <ompaul> NOTE I am about to remove a lot of bans there will be some scrolling!
[08:30] <anonymouss> Killeroid: the plugin is called /exec
[08:30] <ompaul> this will make the channel unusable for a moment
[08:30] <ariqs> ok, ompaul
[08:30] <magnetron> sp00n: man.... this error is severe. some of your libraries seems to be damaged. did you install any new repositories lately? or have any power outages?
[08:30] <afallenhope> Hey.. I'm having an issue with my webcam and adobe flash player 9.
[08:30] <anonymouss> Killeroid: it runs a command and gives you standard out
[08:31] <ompaul> Finished - cheers
[08:31] <anonymouss> Killeroid: and if you do /exec -o command, it dumps into current session
[08:31] <Killeroid> anonymouss: i never noticed the exec plugin, thanks for the tip
[08:31] <sp00n> magnetron, seriously? there was a couple time it froze and I had to hard shut down.  I've been installing new packages for the last week
[08:32] <fraroco> how can I get the hard info of my machine?
[08:32] <anonymouss> Killeroid: useful for checking dmesg or whatever without switching windows/terminals
[08:32] <magnetron> sp00n: yes, seriously
[08:33] <anonymouss> Killeroid: although, I don't think it is available for finch
[08:33] <anonymouss> which is a bummer
[08:33] <sp00n> magnetron, how can I fix damaged libraries?  Can I reinstall/rebuild them?  Is it the "no version information" that tells you this?
[08:34] <Killeroid> anonymouss: thanks again, this plugin has just become my favorite pidgin plugin of all time
[08:34] <Tweaker> So, how would I go about dual booting with PCLinuxOS
[08:35] <dr_Willis> Tweaker,  install the other linux to different partitions, pick ONE os to controll grub. and edit the grub menu configs adding the other OS to it.
[08:36] <Tweaker> Alright cool, how would I do that? I wanna keep Ubuntu as the main, but run PClinux as a side OS. Or even at the same time if  I can.
[08:36] <magnetron> sp00n: the "no version" tells us that the some of the library files are damaged. i assume that some of your other apps will show similar behaviour. "reinstalling" the libraries is not a good solution, as it would not fix all the damaged files. what you /should/ is that you should run a fsck "file system check" on your partition and see if it can fix it.
[08:36] <bennyf11> Hi, how do i get ubuntu 8.04 to work with a bcm4311 rev 02 WITHOUT ndiswrapper??
[08:37] <user_> Tweaker: running at the same second?
[08:37] <sp00n> magnetron, thanks, I will try that.  I have not noticed any erratic behavior with any other applications.
[08:37] <Rat409> bennyf11: i couldn't w/o ndiswrapper same bcm rev 2
[08:38] <Tweaker> Whoops, I ment Running Ubuntu and PCLinux at the same time. I've heard of others running Windows and Linux Simultaneously
[08:38] <bennyf11> rat409: so ndiswrapper is the only way to go??
[08:38] <Rat409> ftm
[08:38] <dr_Willis> Tweaker,  You proberly should learn/read up on grub. befor doing the install of pclinux..  set up part of the hd as unallocated.  boot pclinux, let its installer install to the drives.. backup the pclinux grub menu.lst soemwhere you can find it.. and then compare the 2 from ubuntu and pclinux.  You will most likely have to do a bit of cut/pasteing from oneto the other to get both os's booting properly
[08:39] <Tweaker> Oh damn, alright. I guess I can do that. Thanks for the info.
[08:39] <dr_Willis> Tweaker,  normally i install the other os;s first. then ubuntu last.  that way the other os's dont make it a pain to boot to ubuntu
[08:39] <Rat409> pclos may use lilo as default not sure tho
[08:40] <Rat409> but it should install to root-partition whether grub/lilo
[08:40] <Rat409> iirc
[08:45] <fraroco> HELLO how to check what kind of ram my machine has
[08:48] <LSD|Ninja> fraroco: dmidecode or lshw will probably do the trick
[08:49] <Sa[i]nT> I'm trying to install windows into virtualbox, any idea why it would freeze on the installing devices part?
[08:49] <sp00n> magnetron, I should unmount file system before running fsck?  So since this is my booted partition I will have to run from ivedisc or somethign?
[08:50] <sp00n> Sa[i]nT, which windows?
[08:50] <magnetron> sp00n: yes
[08:50] <newuser_> hello, is there any software similar to itunes for ubuntu, but that can place in order all of my songs? I have a folder with tons of them, and I do not want to spend days organizing music. Any suggestions?
[08:50] <Sa[i]nT> sp00n, Windows XP SP2.
[08:50] <sp00n> magnetron, if that doesn't work, is there anything else I could try / topics to research?
[08:51] <sp00n> Sa[i]nT, I just did exactly that.  I would suggest giving it longer than you think it would need.
[08:51] <Sa[i]nT> sp00n, I've given it a while, did it take a long time for you?
[08:52] <sp00n> Sa[i]nT, Yes it did.  I installed 98SE and XPSP2 in Qemu and both of them ran very slowly; I installed 98SE in VirtualBox and it ran very slowly.  XPSP2 runs perfectly in VirtualBox for me.
[08:53] <macrobad> newuser_: Have you tried rhythmbox or banshee?
[08:53] <sp00n> magnetron, Do you think (the causes of) those error messages are what's causing my Samba issues?
[08:53] <sp00n> Sa[i]nT, how long has it been stalled on that screen?
[08:53] <mkquist> newuser_: rythmbox maybe
[08:54] <Sa[i]nT> sp00n, I'd say 20 minutes.
[08:55] <sp00n> Sa[i]nT, I would say give it 5 or 10 more minutes and if no progress, reboot your VM and reinstall Windows
[08:56] <Gin> can you listen to an internet radio through banshee?
[08:56] <magnetron> sp00n: file system corruption is serious business. the problems you see now are just the tip of an ice berg. yes, the hard disk corruption has damaged your libs, and samba is one of the apps that is using these libs. you should run a fsck ASAP.
[08:56] <LMJ> hello the chan
[08:59] <eth01> magnetron: how can you possibly suggest the such? you can't.
[09:00] <sp00n> magnetic, from http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=786136 : The cause according to  http://www.vmware.com/community/thread.jspa?messageID=480361 appears to be a library mismatch between the system used to create the executable program and the system you are running the program on.
[09:00] <eth01> it could be something else.
[09:00] <sp00n> oops wrong person
[09:00] <dstrbdfrk1> does evolution mail work with hotmail ?
[09:00] <kontagious> hey is there a way i can resize my ubuntu partitian to put windows on my hard drive.. i've booted gparted from a live cd and when i go press apply it gives me an error with a bunch of boxes i cant read
[09:00] <macrobad> Gin: sure. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banshee_(music_player)
[09:00] <LSD|Ninja> dstrbdfrk1: not without some kind of proxy between it and hotmail I'd imagine
[09:01] <dstrbdfrk1> whats that mean ..... im new at this
[09:01] <zeroC> what is better for a notebook with a turion processor? the amd64 installer or the i386?
[09:01] <eth01> amd64
[09:01] <fraroco> LSD|Ninja, yes It does ... thanks
[09:01] <user_> dstrbdfrk1: you might join /evolution and check the FAQ in their channel topic
[09:02] <sp00n> eth01, are you referring to the suggestion given to me?
[09:02] <dstrbdfrk1> ok
[09:02] <eth01> sp00n: indeed.
[09:02] <dstrbdfrk1> thanx
[09:02] <zeroC> eth01: cool, thanks, there are no restrictions or sth. like that?
[09:02] <dstrbdfrk1> one more question where is everyone getting the list of chat channels?
[09:02] <philsf> dstrbdfrk1: are you aware that hotmail only works for paid support?
[09:03] <LSD|Ninja> philsf: so does Yahoo mail but there's still YPOPS! ;)
[09:03] <eth01> zeroC: just install it ;)
[09:03] <zeroC> ;)
[09:04] <sp00n> eth01, I do not think my disk is corrupted, although I don't know enough to say running fsck won't fix the problem
[09:04] <philsf> LSD|Ninja: oh?
[09:04]  * philsf googles
[09:04] <dstrbdfrk1> ?paid support   what do you mean i dont pay for my addy
[09:04] <eth01> zeroC: :)
[09:04] <zeroC> eth01: ok, i still ask, because in the past i had severeal problems with the flashplayer...
[09:04] <LSD|Ninja> I've never bothered looking into what kinds of POP/SMTP proxies exist for Hotmail though since I just use Outlook on Windows to access it
[09:04] <zeroC> but i give it a try!
[09:04] <macrobad> dstrbdfrk1: http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/ :)
[09:04] <eth01> zeroC: you'll be fine.
[09:04] <kontagious> is anyone here good with partitions and gparted
[09:05] <dr_Willis> kontagious,  why not just ask the real question. :)
[09:05] <aXXe> dstrbdfrk1 if you know the pop and smtp info try it and see.
[09:05] <kontagious> i did and no one replied
[09:05] <kontagious> hey is there a way i can resize my ubuntu partitian to put windows on my hard drive.. i've booted gparted from a live cd and when i go press apply it gives me an error with a bunch of boxes i cant read
[09:05] <kontagious> :S
[09:05] <dstrbdfrk1> lol i dont even know what POP stands for
[09:06] <user_> dstrbdfrk1: wikipedia..
[09:06] <dr_Willis> kontagious,  gparted can resize the ubuntu partitions. but the uuid's may change. now as to the problems you are having - no idea why cant you 'read' the errors?
[09:06] <danielm_mc> -- question about itunes -- sry don't know who to direct this to, but is there anything out there that actually allows linux to interface with an ipod or an iphone?  stock
[09:06] <kontagious> the font isnt there
[09:06] <dr_Willis> kontagious,  ive often had to do gparted resizing in steps. do one thing.. reboot machine.. do next stuff. and so forth.
[09:06] <kontagious> its just a bunch of error boxes
[09:06] <aXXe> POP is the info for your receiving email, smtp is the info used to send.
[09:06] <macrobad> kontagious: nobody replied, because how we can read your errors, if you yourself cannot?
[09:06] <dr_Willis> You may want to try some other live cd that has gparted in that case.
[09:07] <kontagious> well i was hoping for a common problem
[09:07] <mastrgamr> test
[09:07] <macrobad> kontagious: try starting gparted from a terminal
[09:07] <mastrgamr> anyone on?
[09:07] <mastrgamr> oh nvm
[09:07] <dr_Willis> kontagious,  you areusing the Ubuntu Live cd?
[09:07] <zeroC> mastrgamr: sure
[09:07] <zeroC> ;)
[09:07] <mastrgamr> lol
[09:07] <kontagious> macrobad: i have but i cant resize it because its in use
[09:07] <kontagious> dr_Willis: im using the gparted live cd
[09:08] <nano_> Is PulseAudio a sound server, or just a sound mixer....i would think the technically correct term would be "mixer" because PulseAudio doesn't work with hardware at all, it simply deals with ALSA or OSS...
[09:08] <dr_Willis> nano_,  i though it went   'hardware -> alsa -> pulse audio -> end user apps'
[09:08] <nano_> Also, if you think about it, PulseAudio replaces dmix (an integral component of ALSA)..therefore it is incorrect to call PulseAudio a server, instead it should be called a mixer
[09:09] <macrobad> kontagious: Hmm.. I mean, start terminal, type 'sudo gparted' and try to repeat your actions that lead to errors. Gparted should start up in its own window, and probably print error messages in the terminal.
[09:09] <dr_Willis> Just another of the Yummy Cake we call Ubuntu!
[09:09] <danielm_mc> blegh, no one answered on interfacing with a iphone/ipod
[09:10] <danielm_mc> anyone ever hooked an ipod up to a linux box?
[09:10] <mastrgamr> i need help installing nVidia drivers (problem is i cant) can somebody help
[09:10] <nano_> dr_Willis, you are right, and if PulseAudio wasn't there it would be hardware --> alsa (or OSS) --> dmix (part of alsa) --> end user application
[09:10] <kontagious> macrobad: sorry i meant to say i select my dev/sda and i cant resize it.. i figured because it was in use
[09:10] <magnetron> danielm_mc: yes.
[09:11] <Lukipela> So.. what would be the reason my install will only recognize 3/4 of my screen?  have an old pentium 3 laptop.
[09:11] <kontagious> i could resize it when i booted the live cd but couldnt apply the changed
[09:11] <kontagious> changes*
[09:11] <Lukipela> i have a big black border :(
[09:11] <sp00n> eth01, do you know what else could cause the "no version information available" error or how to fix it?
[09:11] <kontagious> i didnt see this before in the terminal: Unable to open /dev/scd0 - unrecognised disk label.
[09:11] <mastrgamr> i need help installing nVidia drivers.....
[09:11] <Jorj> Hi all
[09:11] <zeroC> mastrgamr: what errors do you get?
[09:12] <Jorj> i have a question about user permissions
[09:12] <Jorj> can some1 help me ?
[09:12] <zeroC> mastrgamr: normaly there is an installoer, or?
[09:12] <mastrgamr> installer???
[09:12] <zeroC> Jorj: what questions?
[09:12] <Lukipela> my question has stumped the room! muahaha
[09:12] <sp00n> magnetron, I have other applications that also give this error and they run fine, and I'm fairly certain samba gave this error when it worked OK.  I don't think it's the root of the samba issue.
[09:12] <Jorj> i have two users on my system
[09:12] <Jorj> and i am a root kind of user
[09:12] <mastrgamr> sorry im totally new to linux
[09:13] <zeroC> mastrgamr: ah ok... =)
[09:13] <Jorj> i want to give the other user permission to use aptitude and install sotware
[09:13] <Jorj> how can i do that ?
[09:13] <macrobad> kontagious: First of all, /dev/scd0 is usually a CD or DVD drive. It's quite understandable why you cannot resize it. Are you sure that is your hard drive partition?
[09:13] <mastrgamr> when i type sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx-new i get an error
[09:14] <kontagious> macrobad: that was just the error.. i guess i can ignore it.. i am trying to resize /dev/sda1/ which is ext3
[09:14] <zeroC> which one?
[09:14] <mastrgamr> (Reading database ... 118957 files and directories currently installed.)
[09:14] <mastrgamr> Removing nvidia-glx ...
[09:14] <mastrgamr> dpkg-divert: error checking `/usr/lib32/libGL.so.1': No such file or directory
[09:14] <mastrgamr> dpkg: error processing nvidia-glx (--remove):
[09:14] <mastrgamr>  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 2
[09:14] <FloodBot1> mastrgamr: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:14] <mastrgamr> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:14] <Jorj> which one what ?
[09:14] <zeroC> Jorj: not you
[09:14] <magnetron> sp00n: if you are 100% that this error doesn't affect samba, then you need to provide me with the error message that applies to your situtation. you still haven't given me the mount command and error message you get.
[09:14] <Jorj> oops :)
[09:14] <nano_> dr_Willis, when i run "pulseaudio --check" i get no output, but when i run "pactl stat" .. i am told of the running pulseaudio server..whats the difference?
[09:15] <zeroC> :)
[09:15] <macrobad> kontagious: Ah, ok. So, why cannot you apply changes? Is the button greyed out or are there any errors?
[09:15] <mastrgamr> whats flood?
[09:15] <zeroC> mastrgamr: install libGL
[09:15] <mastrgamr> lol sorry hehe
[09:15] <danielm_mc> magnetron :  sweet!!!  what did you use to get an ipod working in linux?
[09:15] <mastrgamr> where can i get libGL?
[09:15] <dr_Willis> nano_,  everything i know about pulseaudio is .. very little. :)
[09:15] <dr_Willis> !pulseaudio
[09:15] <kontagious> macrobad: when i boot the live cd i can make changes but when i try to apply the changes i get an unknown error.. when i run it in ubuntu i cant even select resize
[09:15] <magnetron> danielm_mc: you asked if anyone had done it.
[09:16] <magnetron> !ipod | danielm_mc
[09:16] <zeroC> mastrgamr: apt-cache search libgl
[09:16] <danielm_mc> hellzyeah!  sweet thanks guys
[09:16] <sp00n> magnetic, sudo mount -t smbfs //192.168.2.1/media /mnt/mountpoint/ After running this, the terminal hangs for a minute or two, then I get:  mount error 110 = Connection timed out
[09:16] <sp00n> Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g.man mount.cifs)
[09:16] <FD_F> i cant hear my mic from skype , I checked in alsamixer it seems to be ok any ideas ?  , thanks for the help
[09:16] <nano_> dr_Willis, i understand
[09:17] <mastrgamr> i put apt-cache search libgl and got a huge mess of words
[09:18] <sp00n> magnetron,  sudo mount -t smbfs //192.168.2.1/media /mnt/mountpoint/ After running this, the terminal hangs for a minute or two, then I get:  mount error 110 = Connection timed out Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g.man mount.cifs)
[09:18] <macrobad> kontagious: No, you cannot resize your root partition from a running system. However, it should be possible to resize it seamlessly from a live cd. I recon gparted was giving a windows with two buttons if any errors occured, and those buttons were "Save report" and "Exit". Do you observe it?
[09:18] <Lukipela> Ok, so i will attempt this again..  After installing Ubuntu my screen has large black borders around it.  When I go to update my drivers it says my system is not using any proprietary drivers, what am i doing wrong?
[09:18] <user_> !skype | FD_F
[09:18] <sp00n> magnetic, sry, Message was to someone else.  keep not hitting tab the right # of times.
[09:18] <zeroC> hmm...
[09:18] <dr_Willis> mastrgamr,  i normally pipe searches through grep also... apt-get search XXXXX | grep SOMEOtherWord
[09:18] <kontagious> macrobad: uh i did see that and i could save the .htm file but to be honest with no gui im not too handy in reading it
[09:19] <mastrgamr> well i dont know what i did by using search
[09:20] <mastrgamr> if it makes any difference i have the nvidia hardware available to be enabled on the hardware manager... i just cant enable it because i get an error
[09:21] <zeroC> which error
[09:21] <macrobad> kontagious: That's precisely the reason people are using Ubuntu Live CD for resizing partitions. There is a proper GUI, and it works well. Anyway, you should try to save that report and read it... well, perhaps back from Ubuntu. Otherwise, you may try to use a CLI web broser, e.g. links2, lynx, w3m or something like that.
[09:21] <mastrgamr> Writing extended state information... Done
[09:21] <mastrgamr> (Reading database ... 118910 files and directories currently installed.)
[09:21] <mastrgamr> Removing nvidia-glx ...
[09:21] <mastrgamr> dpkg-divert: error checking `/usr/lib32/libGL.so.1': No such file or directory
[09:21] <mastrgamr> dpkg: error processing nvidia-glx (--remove):
[09:21] <FloodBot1> mastrgamr: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:21] <mastrgamr>  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 2
[09:21] <kontagious> macrobad: if i download the latest version of the ubuntu live cd it has gparted? wow that is so much easier why didn't i stumble upon that on google :S
[09:22] <magnetron> sp00n: i'm pretty sure that if you fix that "library version" error, then this other error will go away too.
[09:22] <raboof> hi! when I hibernate my machine, i have to unmount my external usb drive, and because of that close any applications that have files open on it
[09:22] <mastrgamr> dpkg-divert: error checking `/usr/lib32/libGL.so.1': No such file or directory
[09:23] <raboof> is there any way I can hibernate leaving the applications using files on the usb disk open?
[09:23] <sp00n> magnetron, I just fixed my problem.  I am extremely sorry to have wasted your time.  The IP address I was using was off by one number.  I still have no idea why I am getting that other strange error but apparently it's unrelated. Several other apps do output the same error but appear to function fine.
[09:23] <Lukipela> After a fresh install my system hangs at a black screen, this is 2nd install..
[09:23] <Jorj> can anyone help me with permissions problem ?
[09:23] <macrobad> kontagious: Well, at least there is one on my Ubuntu 8.04 DVD! :) Anyway, if you don't feel like downloading that much you may also try to use a cd from www.sysresccd.org. It's less then 200MB.
[09:23] <user_> raboof: i would say no
[09:24] <sp00n> magnetron, The sad part is I have been trying to fix this for many hours
[09:24] <berent> It's really a shame that eclipse 3.4 doesnt work on ubuntu
[09:24] <berent> hardy
[09:24] <kontagious> i think i might invest in a 8.04 dvd with all the fixings.. i used a cd-rw that i erased.. and since this version is the first to support my drivers from install i think i will keep it
[09:24] <raboof> user_: if i understand correctly, the Coda file system lets me do something similar with network disks - can't believe it's not possible locally then :)
[09:25] <mastrgamr> Guys this is what i get as an error from trying to install the nvidia driver... http://paste.ubuntu.com/23478/
[09:25] <macrobad> mastrgamr: Looks like your library dependencies got corrupted. Try running 'sudo depmod -a' to check and fix them.
[09:26] <kontagious> macrobad: well i have a feeling it will work and if not it will at least i will have a good error message.. worst case scenario i will format and reinstall both os's
[09:26] <kontagious> macrobad: thanks for your help :D
[09:26] <kontagious> macrobad:  hopefully i don't have to come see you again
[09:26] <macrobad> kontagious: Np. Have a nice day!
[09:26] <kontagious> :P
[09:26] <macrobad> :)
[09:27] <raihanhasnain> hi, I need some help regarding network installation. Can anyone help me?
[09:27] <berent> It's really a shame that eclipse 3.4 doesnt work on ubuntu hardy
[09:27] <berent> !paste
[09:27] <mastrgamr> nothing happens when i put 'sudo depmod -a'
[09:27] <mastrgamr> something supposed to happen?
[09:27] <user_> raboof: coda uses a local cache, ext2 or ext3 is not designed for that, also its not designed as a "network file system"
[09:28] <danielm_mc> bah, no iphone on linux
[09:28] <danielm_mc> crappy
[09:28] <macrobad> mastrgamr: Well, not obligatory. There might be an error in the package as well, if everything is OK with your libraries.
[09:28] <raboof> user_: i don't mind dropping ext2 or ext3 for something alternative
[09:28] <user_> danielm_mc: crappy iphone i would say ;-)
[09:28] <mastrgamr> how can i fix that?
[09:28] <dr_Willis> danielm_mc,  demand a refund.
[09:29] <danielm_mc> pfshayeahexactly
[09:29] <danielm_mc> i'm going to att right now
[09:29] <berent> It's really a shame that eclipse 3.4 doesnt work on ubuntu hardy. http://paste.ubuntu.com/23479/
[09:29] <raboof> user_: i wonder if i could do something like 'flush local cache, disconnect from local coda server, shutdown local coda server, hibernate, start local coda server, reconnect and continue'
[09:30] <raboof> coda's just an example, there might be systems much better suited to the task - that's why I'm asking here :)
[09:30] <macrobad> mastrgamr: wtf? /usr/lib32.. ?? I've never seen such a folder on linux, and it sounds sooo windowish, just like system32...
[09:30] <nadalizadeh> Any one knows where can i download an older kernel package (i.e 2.6.17-generic) ?
[09:30] <mastrgamr> lol........... it is windows, i used Wubi
[09:30] <nadalizadeh> archive.ubuntu.com deletes the older ones ....
[09:30] <berent> nadalizadeh: kernel.org
[09:31] <user_> raboof: sounds possible to me, its not the primary coda usage goal, but nice for your purpose. you might get more info in a coda channel or #debian (tec savy channel)
[09:31] <nadalizadeh> no, not the source
[09:31] <nadalizadeh> berent: I want the official package
[09:32] <raboof> user_: k, thanks for the encouragement!
[09:32] <macrobad> mastrgamr: hahaha! I don't have any experience with it, but you may try to find the file libGL.so.1 somewhere else, e.g. in /usr/lib/ and copy it there. Do you have /usr/lib?
[09:33] <mastrgamr> yea i do
[09:33] <timob> how do I mount the / as read only? .... I get / in use when I try mount -o remount -o ro / in runlevel 1
[09:33] <kontagious> macrobad: where did you get your dvd from.. i can only find the cd-rom one
[09:34] <pan0983> i have amd64 laptop running on 64bit ubuntu, how would i install firefox 32bit?
[09:34] <thijs> thijs452
[09:34] <aXXe> pan0983 have you tried to install the 32bit?
[09:35] <mastrgamr> I have a usr/lib folder
[09:36] <mastrgamr> and a libGL.so.1 file
[09:36] <macrobad> kontagious: It's a trick! Try http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/hardy/release/
[09:38] <kontagious> macrobad: :) thanks again
[09:38] <macrobad> mastrgamr: So, copy it to the folder where it is expected to be by the package. A side question: why do you need to install nvidia drivers with Ubuntu? Since you're working in windows anyway, and it has its own drivers, that should be unnecessary!
[09:38] <macrobad> kontagious: you're welcome!
[09:38] <kontagious> macrobad: just to confirm.. it has gparted right
[09:39] <donda> can any one suggest me a software for accelerating the download speed
[09:39] <LSD|Ninja> donda: change mirrors
[09:39] <macrobad> kontagious: if you wish, I can boot it meanwhile on a spare machine and check.
[09:39] <mastrgamr> wubi uses its own files, it doesnt borrow from windows
[09:40] <areels> i have installed turkish keyboard there is only turkish keyb in the list but my keyboard is still english why is that
[09:40] <donda> LSD|Ninja:which mirrors
[09:40] <kontagious> macrobad: could you :)
[09:40] <LSD|Ninja> donda: the mirrors for whatever it is you're downloading
[09:40] <donda> LSD|Ninja: aren't any software available
[09:41] <berent> areels: English politics.
[09:41] <solrize> what's the package for the gcc library docs?
[09:41] <SliMM_> hello
[09:41] <macrobad> kontagious: someone next room must have not returned it to me... be back in 10 min. :)
[09:41] <kontagious> ok :D
[09:41] <SliMM_> how can i find information about the hardware in my computer?
[09:41] <LSD|Ninja> SliMM_: dmidecode or lshw
[09:42] <orphean> solrize: not sure what you mean by 'library' the docs for gcc live in gcc-<version>-doc packages. ie gcc-4.2-doc
[09:42] <SliMM_> LSD|Ninja: there was some application in gutsy, is it gone?
[09:42] <LSD|Ninja> SliMM_: yeah. It sucked anyway so it's one thing I'm not terribly bothered to see go
[09:43] <karabash> Hello
[09:43] <karabash> Anjuta doesnot work with Hardy Heron
[09:43] <Thrym> hi all
[09:43] <orphean> karabash: what does it do?
[09:43] <karabash> does not build
[09:43] <SliMM_> LSD|Ninja: i have some small driver problems also
[09:43] <karabash> dunno why
[09:43] <pan0983> wicd hardy freezes on connect anyone know y?
[09:43] <macrobad> mastrgamr: yes, sure, but it runs on top of windows anyway, and must use windows to get access to a videocard. I believe.
[09:44] <solrize> orphean i installed that but the docs aren't there
[09:44] <solrize> i.e. "man putchar"
[09:44] <SliMM_> the "switch wifi on/off" button only works for switching it off, if I accidentally switch it off, i have to restart my computer
[09:45] <orphean> solrize: which docs are you looking for though? you meantioned something about a library? do you mean glibc?
[09:45] <solrize> yeah, glibc
[09:45] <solrize> ok
[09:45] <SliMM_> LSD|Ninja: can I, at least, fully disable it?
[09:45] <solrize> i want the man page for putchar
[09:45] <SliMM_> LSD|Ninja: or make it work properly
[09:45] <orphean> solrize: glibc-doc
[09:45] <solrize> installing
[09:46] <solrize> nope, not there
[09:46] <solrize> it was someplace pretty obscure
[09:46] <solrize> i've been through this before
[09:46] <solrize> it's develdocs or something
[09:46] <LSD|Ninja> SliMM_: no idea, only wifi hardware I've really messed with under ubuntu has been desktop PCI stuff (so no switch)
[09:46] <areels> how can i fix a desktop shortcut to smb folder_
[09:46] <solrize> but i'm having trouble finding it
[09:46] <SliMM_> LSD|Ninja: by switch i mean "button"
[09:46] <solrize> install glibc-doc installed 8mb of who knows what
[09:46] <areels> l'ke this smb://pc003/tools/
[09:46] <SliMM_> LSD|Ninja: thanks, i'll try the forums
[09:46] <solrize> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2007-September/020149.html   aha  manpages-dev
[09:47] <orphean> solrize: man pages i assume :) you can get rid of it.  looks like the only package with 'devel docs' apart of it is gnome-devel-docs
[09:47] <mastrgamr> I have another problem.. how can i change my screen resolution???
[09:47] <solrize> yeah that worked!
[09:47] <LSD|Ninja> SliMM_: yeah, I'm familiar with them on laptops but I haven't really messed around too much with Ubuntu on lappies
[09:47] <SliMM_> LSD|Ninja: after i install hwinfo and check the details
[09:47] <solrize> manpages-dev
[09:47] <SliMM_> LSD|Ninja: works great for me
[09:47] <orphean> solrize: nice!
[09:47] <mastrgamr> my screen respulution is 800x600 and i want it to my screen's 1280x800
[09:47] <areels> how can i fix a shortcut to a network mount_
[09:47] <mastrgamr> resolution*
[09:47] <areels> ?
[09:48] <SliMM_> LSD|Ninja: besides, it's unexpensive :P
[09:48] <LSD|Ninja> areels: enable the screen and graphics control panel in the menus and try that
[09:48] <SliMM_> inexpensive*
[09:48] <solrize> is there any hope of a base installation that includes all this stuff?  this is just about the most frustrating aspect of ubuntu, all the missing stuff
[09:49] <bignose__> mince
[09:49] <dr_Willis> one mans must have stuff.. is anothers  fluff.
[09:49] <areels> LSD|Ninja:  i didn@t get your point
[09:49] <orphean> solrize: ubuntu doesn't really target developers out of the box. they operate under the assumption a developer can but his own kit together. so they use that cd space on the disk for user stuff
[09:49] <LSD|Ninja> areels: displayconfig-gtk
[09:50] <macrobad> kontagious: Nah, I've booted Ubuntu 8.04 Live CD in VirtualBox, and found out there is gparted! So, it is not even necessary to use a DVD.
[09:50] <solrize> gparted?  what's that?
[09:50] <LSD|Ninja> solrize: a GNOME frontend for parted
[09:50] <gnomefreak> a partition editor
[09:50] <orphean> solrize: partition editor
[09:50] <solrize> er, how does that help?
[09:51] <LSD|Ninja> solrize: heh, you really are a developer aren't you?
[09:51] <areels> LSD|Ninja:  there is nothing in here
[09:51] <solrize> oh whoops sorry confused two threads
[09:51] <solrize> LSD yeah
[09:51] <areels> how can i fix a shortcut to a network mount on desktop?
[09:51] <macrobad> solrize: yeah, it was not meant for you. :)
[09:51] <LSD|Ninja> solrize: that wasn't supposed to be a compliment :P
[09:51] <areels> im adding shortcut to desktop but it disappears on reboot
[09:51] <solrize> it's not just development stuff all sorts of stuff is missing
[09:52] <solrize> and the development packages are split into 100's of sub-packages that have to be installed separately
[09:52] <LSD|Ninja> solrize: you can get most of the desktop stuff by installing *buntu-restricted-extras after you install the base
[09:52] <orphean> that's just debian's way solrize.
[09:52] <dr_Willis> The pros and cons of package management and meta-packages
[09:52] <LSD|Ninja> areels: just run it from the terminal for now
[09:52] <kontagious> macrobad: thanks that saves me the hastle
[09:53] <areels> im adding shortcut to desktop but it disappears on reboot how can i fix that?
[09:53] <solrize> ubuntu-restricted-extras looks like it's mostly media codecs and stuff like that
[09:53] <solrize> is there ubuntu-unrestricted-extras?
[09:53] <LSD|Ninja> solrize: I did say desktop stuff
[09:53] <solrize> ubuntu-extras doesn't exist
[09:54] <solrize> restricted seems to mean proprietary stuff
[09:54] <solrize> if i wanted to run that, i'd buy a macintosh :)
[09:54] <mastrgamr> i have a short cut to a  libGL.so.1 (it doesnt exist), and i have a libGL.so.1.2 file.. is the libGL.so.1.2 file a backup up libGL.so.1??
[09:54] <solrize> i guess what i want is "install everything"
[09:54] <donda> is there any software available equivalent to tally
[09:54] <solrize> Couldn't find any package matching "everything", and more than 40
[09:54] <solrize> packages contain "everything" in their description.
[09:54] <LSD|Ninja> solrize: sounds like you want another distro
[09:55] <macrobad> mastrgamr: not necessarily. Most likely, they are different versions of the same library.
[09:55] <solrize> lsd|ninja yeah, i was using fedora before but we use ubuntu where i work so i'm trying to switch
[09:55] <donda> ﻿ is there any software available equivalent to tally for ubuntu
[09:55] <mastrgamr> there anyway i can make the installer use libGL.so.1.2 instead of libGL.so.1?
[09:55] <LSD|Ninja> lol, fedora blows
[09:55] <areels> im adding shortcut to desktop but it disappears on reboot how can i fix that?
[09:55] <solrize> donda if no one answered the first time it's because they don't know, try again in a few hours
[09:56] <LSD|Ninja> I don't know how, but Fedora just gets crappier with each new release
[09:56] <solrize> lsd|ninja, yeah, it does seem that way
[09:56] <macrobad> solrize: why don't you make a list of all required packages one time and forever, and just copy paste it after apt-get install? It's not possible to satisfy all the people at once.
[09:56] <macrobad> donda: what is tally?
[09:56] <gordonjcp> LSD|Ninja: you could say the same of Ubuntu :-/
[09:57] <solrize> macrobad there are a million bazillion unix systems (linux-based and otherwise) since the dawn of time, and every one of them that i've ever seen except ubuntu has included the man page for putchar
[09:57] <LSD|Ninja> gordonjcp: yeah, 8.04 certainly seems to indicate they're going down that road
[09:57] <donda> macrobad:it is the software for maintaining banking and accounting
[09:57] <LSD|Ninja> solrize: Ubuntu is a desktop distro. dev stuff has no place in the base install
[09:57] <un2him> the first alpha of intrepid ibex is out, am installing it now
[09:57] <Pigeon`> Hi, I've just open my hardy and i got like no wallpaper, no taskbar, well i think i lost my gnome lol. I got that error :  Install problem!   The configuration defaults for GNOME Power Manager have not been installed correctly.
[09:58] <solrize> lsd|ninja i'm sympathetic to that, but why isn't there a developer package?  "sudo apt-get install developer"
[09:58] <solrize> i've been installing packages for weeks and still keep hitting missing stuff
[09:58] <orphean> this would probably be better on #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:58] <solrize> orphean yeah true
[09:59] <molgrum> hello, i would like to downgrade my nvidia-glx-new package so that i can boot the 2.6.22-14 kernel again. i tried the "force version" option in synaptic but it doesn't let me go far enough..
[09:59] <macrobad> solrize: I can feel your pain, but on the other hand no distro I've seen so far was so easy to install and start using, as Ubuntu is. Btw, you may wish to go to https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu and advocate deriving such a package.
[09:59] <un2him> molgrum: can't you just disable the nvidia driver in the restricted drivers panel?
[10:00] <macrobad> donda: sry, I cannot help.
[10:00] <solrize> looking
[10:00] <molgrum> un2him: well i still want the driver in the older kernel :)
[10:00] <Lukipela> Why does Ubuntu not give me a full screen??
[10:00] <Lukipela> i have 3 inch black borders.
[10:01] <molgrum> i'm suspecting the new kernel is buggy so i would like to downgrade to check
[10:01] <LSD|Ninja> Lukipela: try displayconfig-gtk
[10:01] <Lukipela> Ok, and i do that how?  :D
[10:01] <solrize> macrobad - maybe this is a start https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntu-install-dvd
[10:01] <un2him> molgrum: not sure, but you could disable nvidia, then boot to old kernel, then enable nvidia again
[10:02] <LSD|Ninja> Lukipela: in the terminal, you may have to call it with sudo
[10:02] <Lukipela> k
[10:02] <molgrum> un2him: ah, could try that
[10:02] <un2him> molgrum: good luck
[10:02] <molgrum> thanks
[10:03] <Lukipela> Ok, that will work, im going to let my system finish updates befor ei mess with it though, pentium 3's are a bit..stupid.
[10:03] <macrobad> solrize: that guy seems to be willing to see a lot of different restricted packages on Ubuntu DVD, and you were looking for a "developer" installation target. Am I correct?
[10:04] <abhi_> is there any cli application like dos edit... I do't like the vi
[10:04] <twoface_> Hi. Everytime I log in, Ubuntu warns me that my mouse battery is at 14%. This is not true. How can I turn off this notification?
[10:04] <abhi_> or emacs
[10:04] <dr_Willis> abhi_,  thers dozens of cli editors.
[10:05] <dr_Willis> abhi_,  nano, pico, mp, fte, vi variants, emacs and variants, mcedit.
[10:05] <areels> ive too many problems
[10:05] <areels> im adding shortcut to desktop but it disappears on reboot how can i fix that?
[10:05] <areels> and why my keyboard insists on us
[10:05] <dr_Willis> abhi_,  i really like fte myself  for a text editor.
[10:05] <areels> i need turkish kaeb
[10:05] <un2him> areels: where does the shortcut link to?  maybe an unmounted drive or partition?
[10:05] <solrize> macrobad i think that guy is interested in basically the same thing as me, i.e. more stuff in the base installation
[10:05] <solrize> and less downloading
[10:05] <areels> un2him: a smb location over network
[10:06] <abhi_> dr_Willis, : let me try them.
[10:06] <solrize> in my case i want more dev stuff but really, a lot of the very basic unix stuff was missing
[10:06] <LSD|Ninja> again, no place in a desktop distro
[10:07] <abhi_> dr_Willis, : is there any cli editor with mouse support
[10:07] <donda> how to configure sound manager for 5.1 channel audio
[10:07] <solrize> lots of missing documentation, a desktop os should never install software without installing the docs for the software
[10:07] <macrobad> solrize: "more stuff in the base installation" sounds like "more bloat" to me... At any rate, I think what you're looking for is best described with the phrase "package task". Try 'tasksel --list-tasks' to see existing ones.
[10:08] <solrize> hmm i'm not sure how to interpret the output of that
[10:08] <macrobad> solrize: Also, there *are* a lot of packages on Ubuntu DVD, all of which are free. Isn't it enough?
[10:08] <solrize> ubuntu-dvd-live
[10:08] <dr_Willis> abhi_,  fte and vi can do that.  not sure bout others.
[10:08] <solrize> the dvd just seems like a dump of a bunch of packages that don't get installed automatically
[10:08] <berent> Is eclipse compatible with mozilla firefox 3?
[10:08] <dr_Willis> abhi_,  you will need to install gpm for console mouse support
[10:09] <donda> ﻿ how to configure sound manager for 5.1 channel audio
[10:09] <solrize> and iirc it was still missing a lot of stuff
[10:09] <LSD|Ninja> solrize: www.debian.org
[10:09] <abhi_> dr_Willis, : does vi support mouse. if so how to activate them
[10:09] <solrize> looking
[10:09] <abhi_> dr_Willis, : let me install the gpm
[10:09] <dr_Willis> abhi_,  vim has some sort of mouse support mode. I never use it.
[10:09] <solrize> right, ubuntu is a debian fork iirc
[10:09] <dr_Willis> abhi_,  i never use the mouse mode i mean.. I do use vim :)
[10:09] <fr4nk-k> abhi_: The graphical vim supports mouse. (gvim)
[10:09] <solrize> lsd|ninja i think you are right that fedora is getting worse
[10:09] <abhi_> dr_Willis, : then i will google it out
[10:10] <dr_Willis> I think ubuntu has gone beyond just a fork now. :)
[10:10] <dr_Willis> More of a Spoon!
[10:10] <solrize> hehe
[10:10] <raheem> hehe.. right dr_Willis
[10:10] <magnetron> hi! i'm connecting to to a ssh server. the server is using a iso-latin1 (ISO8859-1) locale, my ubuntu client is using a UTF-8 locale. the characters are messed up, how should i connect to be able to view all chars?
[10:11] <LSD|Ninja> solrize: I'm messing around with Fedora 9 right now. Ubuntu has it's rough edges but F9 really is the uncut stone fresh from the rock
[10:11] <solrize> hehe
[10:11] <dr_Willis> magnetron,  wouldent you set whatever terminal ssh is running in. to use the proper character set/locale?
[10:11] <solrize> lsd|ninja i'm still using fedora 3 and 4 on my other boxes
[10:11] <dr_Willis> magnetron,  i recall doing that with putty under windows at least.
[10:11] <dr_Willis> !info putty
[10:12] <LSD|Ninja> the linux putty sucks
[10:12] <macrobad> solrize: I am really happy that Ubuntu comes with a limited number of packages installed by default. On the other hand, given that I don't need any restricted drivers, almost all the stuff can be found on a DVD. If you wish, I can even pastebin my list of packages (yeah, there is a lot of documentation ones!)
[10:12] <solrize> ubuntu is nicer than fedora in many ways, i just wish it had about the same packages as fedora
[10:12] <solrize> macrobad yes i'd appreciate that pastebin
[10:12] <dr_Willis> LSD|Ninja,  never tried it.  :)
[10:12] <Keule|guest> Good morning
[10:12] <pan0983> good morning
[10:12] <magnetron> dr_Willis: i am using the standard ssh client. i know i can do it with putty i windows, but i am wondering how to do it with the standard ssh client
[10:13] <LSD|Ninja> Fedora has a far better look to it than Ubuntu, Ubuntu seriously has to junk that babyshit brown theme
[10:13] <Keule|guest> can some help me to connect my wm6 mobile phone with ubuntu - i want to share my UMTS in order to get online...
[10:13] <kemf4y4> hi
[10:13] <solrize> that's not just a hardy theme?
[10:13] <dr_Willis> magnetron,  you mean ssh inside a gnome terminal then?  Putty for linux i just tried.. and it has the exact same options/features as the windows one does it seems.
[10:13] <pestor> dear all, is it possible to get NetworkManager 0.7 up and running in hardy?
[10:13] <pan0983> networkmanagergnome?
[10:14] <pestor> yes
[10:14] <pan0983> sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome ?
[10:14] <LSD|Ninja> Ubuntu already has networkmanager...
[10:14] <pan0983> he said he wanted network manager?
[10:14] <magnetron> dr_Willis: i need to do it with the standard ubuntu ssh client... i don't want to be a prick or anything
[10:14] <pestor> i dont think that will give me 0.7
[10:14] <LSD|Ninja> pestor: what's in 0.7 that you really need?
[10:14] <pestor> i *think* it's only available in fedora by default
[10:14] <dr_Willis> magnetron,  i THINK its more of an issue with the Terminal you are running SSH in. not ssh itself.
[10:15] <magnetron> dr_Willis: ok, thx
[10:15] <pestor> the support for my 3g-dongle. i was struggling like crazy to et it working in hardy but eventually failed. in fedora is working out of the box with one click.
[10:15] <dr_Willis> magnetron,  there may be some variables you can set/locale and stuff.. but ive not messed with that stuff.
[10:16] <solrize> macrobad were you going to pastebin a package list?
[10:16] <pestor> but of course i dont want to run fedora :)
[10:16] <magnetron> dr_Willis: i tried that, but it "didn't work"
[10:16] <vox> hi, what work-around is there for the cd-burning bug?
[10:16] <redbull_> how about debian?
[10:16] <dr_Willis> magnetron,  you did 'export' the changes?  there may be a SSH faq somewhere that explains how to do it.
[10:16] <solrize> gnome terminal apparently has a character encoding menu
[10:17] <LSD|Ninja> pestor: sounds like a driver issue more than a network manager issue
[10:17] <magnetron> dr_Willis: i'm having troubles find such FAQs :(
[10:17] <geirha> vox: what bug are you referring to?
[10:17] <redbull_> fedora = suck
[10:17] <raheem> magnetron:    env LANG="<locale>" gnome-terminal .. may be
[10:17] <magnetron> solrize: it does? i didn't find it
[10:17] <magnetron> solrize: ahhh... thx
[10:17] <solrize> click the terminal tab
[10:17] <raheem> create a launcher with that .. with the correct locale ..
[10:17] <pestor> LSD|Ninja: hmm, maybe your right
[10:17] <vox> geirha: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3b/+bug/149076
[10:17] <solrize> add encoding
[10:17] <magnetron> solrize: thx alot!
[10:17] <solrize> np
[10:18] <dr_Willis> wow a concise bug. :)
[10:18] <redbull_> solar = bug
[10:18] <LSD|Ninja> redbull_: Fedora = Ubuntu in a year or two if they insist on putting out crappy releases like 8.04
[10:18] <pan0983> can i install firefox32bit on ubuntu 64bit?
[10:18] <erdem_> #ubuntu-tr
[10:18] <macrobad> solrize: a sec
[10:18] <Lukipela> yah, 8.04 is killing me on the older systems i have
[10:18] <solrize> ubuntu auto-installed some kind of upgrade on my box yesterday and asked for a reboot and the reboot kernel panicked :(
[10:18] <dr_Willis> pan0983,  yes - i belive its doable.  and No i dont know how.
[10:19] <solrize> macrobad thanks
[10:19] <vox> i mean serriously, all i want to do is burn an iso
[10:19] <Lukipela> lots of video issues, like my screen randomly going black during updates.. like now.
[10:19] <redbull_> i am using Fortran in Ubuntu as well
[10:19] <pan0983> try ubuntu ultimate
[10:19] <redbull_> ultimate ?
[10:19] <pan0983> yeah
[10:19] <macrobad> solrize: Ready: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23481/
[10:20] <pan0983> has a lot of stuff in it
[10:20] <pan0983> got to burn it to dvd
[10:20] <geirha> vox: does the bug also encompass brasero?
[10:20] <redbull_> hmm
[10:20] <pan0983> got everything set up
[10:20] <macrobad> solrize: I'm sure, we have different interests, though! :)
[10:20] <magnetron> pan0983: come on... it's just more packages installed by default
[10:20] <pan0983> yeah
[10:20] <pan0983> thats wat i meant
[10:20] <magnetron> pan0983: it's the same packages as in the ubuntu repos
[10:20] <pan0983> rilly?
[10:20] <redbull_> who installed lazybuntu ?
[10:20] <magnetron> pan0983: yes
[10:20] <pan0983> oh
[10:21] <redbull_> its not good
[10:21] <solrize> macrobad, thanks, i see there's a lot of doc packages, i believe in documentation, i'd be happy to install all the docs for every package ever released even for packages that i don't install
[10:21] <redbull_> its not very well
[10:21] <dr_Willis> UbuntuHDFillerUpEdition.
[10:21] <solrize> that way if i think i want a package, i can read its docs beforehand
[10:21] <Lukipela> dont you hate it when you take a shower and you get out, and dry off, and then forget to rinse your hair?  ill brb.
[10:21] <solrize> i think there should be "apt-get install all-the-docs-for-everything"
[10:21] <pan0983> i agree
[10:21] <solrize> lukipela uhh no i don't think that has ever happened to me .... wow
[10:22] <dr_Willis> solrize,  make a meta-package then for it.  Seen that done by some people for their setups that they perfer.
[10:22] <vox> geirha: just trying now
[10:22] <macrobad> solrize: np! You should try using synaptic
[10:22] <redbull_> launchpad response speed NOOB!!
[10:22] <ue> Good day all, ony one has any experience with bar code readers under ubuntu ?
[10:22] <magnetron> !noob | redbull_
[10:23] <magnetron> !anyone | ue
[10:23] <macrobad> solrize: All the packages are divided in groups, and you can find the "documentation" group there.
[10:23] <solrize> synaptic is a gui thing that confused the heck out of me... i've been using aptitude because it gets the recommended additional packages when you install something, instead of just saying what they are and letting them whiz by the screen
[10:23] <solrize> macrobad i pasted your documentation get and it's downloading now
[10:23] <redbull_> !noob
[10:23] <pan0983> when is flash going to be for firefox64bit sighs
[10:23] <redbull_> ok ok
[10:23] <magnetron> !flash64 | pan0983
[10:23] <redbull_> fine
[10:23] <redbull_> fine fine !!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:23] <vox> geirha: yep, brasero also relies on wodim for burning
[10:23] <solrize> can i install a package group?
[10:24] <macrobad> solrize: :)
[10:24] <redbull_> anyone using win Vista ???
[10:24] <pan0983> no
[10:24] <ue> whats software can you recomend for implementing a code bar reader system ? I need to scan a bar code and send the output to a php/per lscript
[10:24] <redbull_> haha
[10:24] <solrize> did i make a funny?  that wasn't intentional
[10:24] <redbull_> vista = rubbish ?
[10:24] <pan0983> *shrugs*
[10:24] <solrize> marooned off vista
[10:25] <LSD|Ninja> ue: most bar code readers I'm familiar with emulate a keyboard
[10:25] <redbull_> ?
[10:25] <solrize> i've seen some bar code stuff around
[10:25] <redbull_> vista = rubbish ?
[10:25] <redbull_> vista = rubbish ??
[10:25] <macrobad> solrize: No, I am not sure it is easily doable, but should be possible, if you a familiar enough with debian package management.
[10:25] <ue> LSD|Ninja, I read about that
[10:25] <pan0983> yes
[10:25] <fr4nk-k> redbull_: rigth
[10:25] <fr4nk-k> :D
[10:25] <solrize> google.com/search?q=barcode+linux finds a lot
[10:25] <redbull_> : D
[10:25] <redbull_> :       D
[10:26] <ue> LSD|Ninja, but I need software that captures that input decodeds it and sends to a script
[10:26] <redbull_> i HATE Visa
[10:26] <redbull_> i HATE Vista !!
[10:26] <dr_Willis> solrize,  you could use the command line package tools to generate a list of all -doc packages then isntall from that list. I imagine.
[10:26] <solrize> dr_willis hmm
[10:26] <LSD|Ninja> I just *know* that when I reboot the wifi isn't going to work because the kernel has been upgraded and the fedora software updater doesn't seem to be pulling in the livna packages >_<
[10:26] <redbull_> fr4nk-k: right?
[10:27] <ue> solrize, yes find a lot thats the problem, so I am asking maybe some one has any experience with that, so I don't go all the find and try road
[10:27] <solrize> macrobad your software install includes a bunch of servers... does the installation script actually start the servers running and listening and open up ports?  i'm not sure i want that
[10:27] <fr4nk-k> redbull_: yeah, i think vista's sh_t, too
[10:27] <solrize> ue oh i see
[10:27] <fr4nk-k> redbull_: but that doesn't blong in taht channel
[10:27] <macrobad> solrize: I've smiled to someone installing the packages, I've made for myself. Actually, the reason I made it is to free myself from a hassle of customizing all the machines, I'm toying with.
[10:28] <macrobad> solrize: Yes, it does. You have to setup iptables, or switch it off.
[10:28] <redbull_> Linux having REDBULL power ?
[10:28] <ue> solrize, just some tips about : that actualy this peice of software works, and works how it should with this hardware
[10:28] <danielm_mc> anyone had any problems with 8.04 wireless?
[10:28] <solrize> ue yeah i remember someone had a cute hack where they used a cuecat reader to catalog their book collection... they read the barcodes and looked up the isbn's on amazon
[10:28] <danielm_mc> with madwifi and wpasupplicant?
[10:28] <vox> this is making me stabby.
[10:29] <solrize> macrobad i think you have the right idea, build up a list of packages and keep re-using it
[10:29] <solrize> it would be nice to be able to nest packages
[10:29] <ue> solrize, well cuecat in an abandoned project atm, so maybe some other better alternatives
[10:29] <solrize> is that possible?
[10:29] <solrize> ue yeah that was ages ago
[10:29] <redbull_> how to using printer in command line?
[10:30] <macrobad> solrize: btw, may be this would be useful for you too: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/
[10:30] <solrize> redbull_  lpr file-to-print
[10:30] <redbull_> thx
[10:30] <solrize> macrobad thanks
[10:30] <macrobad> np
[10:30] <solrize> bookmarking
[10:30] <redbull_> why np?
[10:30] <philsf> hello, I just found out about SSL encryption for IRC, and set it up for the OFTC debian irc servers. I can't find out how to do the same for ubuntu (freenode) irc servers. Can any of you point me to some doc with info on this subject?
[10:31] <jussi01> philsf: ask in #freenode
[10:31] <solrize> freenode has ssl?
[10:31] <jussi01> but I dont think freenode has ssl
[10:31] <solrize> i think it's kind of pointless since most people aren't using it
[10:31] <vithos> freenode doesn't have ssl, last i checked
[10:31] <SliMM_> hello, my laptop's specification says that I have 4GB of RAM, but Ubuntu says that I only have 3
[10:32] <solrize> 32 bit?
[10:32] <jesus_christoffe> l
[10:32] <SliMM_> I know, they could have been wrong and used a 1GB-chip instead of a 2GB one
[10:32] <LSD|Ninja> SliMM_: you probably want the amd64 ubuntu (yes, even if you have a Core 2)
[10:32] <macrobad> I don't think you freenode has ssl, but it supports tor
[10:32] <macrobad> http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml
[10:33] <SliMM_> LSD|Ninja: won't it work awful?
[10:33] <macrobad> s/you/
[10:33] <SliMM_> LSD|Ninja: and I do have core 2 duo
[10:33] <solrize> sometimes i think of running openbsd
[10:33] <vox> what work-around is there for the cd-burning bug?
[10:33] <gordonjcp> solrize: not worth it, tbh
[10:33] <_coredump_> SliMM_, for 32bit you need to recompile your kernel to use more than 3gb ram
[10:33] <qingfeng> hello everyone
[10:33] <jussi01> !tor | macrobad
[10:34] <solrize> gordonjcp i'm not sure what tbh means but i think i get your drift :)
[10:34] <gordonjcp> solrize: OpenBSD is basically NetBSD that doesn't work properly, with a project team headed up by an arrogant nobber
[10:34] <orphean> solrize: to be honest
[10:34] <quinn> SliMM_, you'd better install the 64Bit
[10:34] <solrize> gordonjcp yeah that's about the impression i had... but they do seem to be more vigilant about locking stuff down
[10:34] <LSD|Ninja> amd64 is a far better bet than dicking around with options to increase the address space in 32 bit
[10:34] <gordonjcp> solrize: yeah, except they're not
[10:34] <solrize> oh heh
[10:34] <gordonjcp> solrize: they haven't got a *clue* how to do it properly
[10:34] <macrobad> jussi01: hmm... Anyway, I don't use it, but thanks.
[10:34] <jussi01> :)
[10:34] <gordonjcp> solrize: and then TdR *lies* about how secure it is
[10:35] <gordonjcp> solrize: like, the whole "no exploits in ten years thing" - except every time they find an exploit they change what they define an exploit as
[10:35] <solrize> hehe
[10:35] <gordonjcp> solrize: like for instance a very serious buffer overrun that is a remote root vuln is "errata", not an exploit
[10:35] <solrize> i just saw there was another openssl bug in the past few days... i wonder if that affected them
[10:36] <gordonjcp> solrize: well the openssl bug that affected Debian, Ubuntu et al was just Debian upstream vandalism
[10:36] <solrize> no not that one a new one
[10:36] <MrLukipela> Ok, so now, after i set the video drivers to the correct chipset, the screen is completely messed up, and when i try to open a command prompt the system logs me off.
[10:36] <solrize> in the past week or so
[10:36] <gordonjcp> solrize: people were fiddling with stuff they don't understand
[10:36] <jussi01> !ot
[10:36] <gordonjcp> jussi01: you're right
[10:36] <gordonjcp> solrize: we should take this to #u-ot
[10:37] <solrize> gordonjcp yeah that debian thing was outrageous
[10:37] <solrize> gordonjcp ok
[10:37] <gordonjcp> or stop, before Theo de Raant sends me another snotty email
[10:37] <solrize> hahaha
[10:37] <bmw> hi all
[10:37] <MrLukipela> So any ideas??
[10:37] <solrize> boot in safe mode?
[10:38] <vox> what work-around is there for the cd-burning bug?
[10:38] <MrLukipela> attempting that now
[10:38] <pan0983> stupid question
[10:38] <pan0983> wats difference from gksudo and sudo
[10:38] <bmw> how can i download the flash video . i try with download helper for Firefox but its not work .
[10:39] <bmw> http://www.tnt-tv.ru/programs/ComedyClub/video/156/video06.flv
[10:39] <fr4nk-k> pan0983: gksudo loads a graphical application with root rights; sudo is for commadn-line applications
[10:39] <pan0983> thx
[10:40] <fr4nk-k> pan0983: np
[10:40] <MrLukipela> Ok
[10:40] <MrLukipela> So it wont let me change my drivers now
[10:41] <MrLukipela> The one it is set to is incorrect, but when i choose the correct one it reverts back at the next screen.
[10:41] <jimcooncat> gf pressed a key combination that triggered a massive screen zoom (using Gnome). How to unzoom, please?
[10:42] <kidbuntu> someone help
[10:42] <fr4nk-k> bmw: well, download helper works on my system ???
[10:42] <kidbuntu> i can't use iphone on my ubuntu
[10:42] <magnetron> jimcooncat: in compiz, it's the meta key(windows key) and the scroll wheel
[10:42] <jimcooncat> thanks magnetron
[10:43] <dr_Willis> i thought the windows key was the 'super' key
[10:43] <fr4nk-k> dr_Willis: yes, it is. at least on my system
[10:44] <MrLukipela> well i think i fixed the new problem, but im at square one with the original problem, which is i have a big black border around my screen.
[10:44] <dr_Willis> the 'tux' key. :)
[10:44] <jimcooncat> that was scary, all ok now
[10:44] <fr4nk-k> :D
[10:44] <fr4nk-k> exactly
[10:44] <MrLukipela> nevermind, new problem still persists, when i go to terminal services the system logs me out
[10:45] <MrLukipela> You know, i have done about 10 fresh installs of vista and not had this much trouble.
[10:45] <dr_Willis> MrLukipela,  it took my new laptop (with vista) about an hr to boot up the first time - it was configrung stuff under vista. :) I installed ubuntu on 2 other machines as the vista laptop was just booting..
[10:46] <bmw> es its works wot hi can download the curent video part :) in the adress bar the video the video link chenchid
[10:46] <MrLukipela> But did they work?  I installed it fine, but its taken me about 6 hours to get it running, and now, trying to fix a video issue, the system logs me off when i try to change it, which makes NO SENSE at all.  Anyways, im going to crash
[10:47] <MrLukipela> maybe i can find a solution to it in my sleep ;)
[10:47] <kidbuntu> help please for iphone users
[10:47] <dr_Willis> !iphone
[10:48] <fr4nk-k> kidbuntu: i think in this channel there are no iphone users
[10:48] <pen> anyone here using galaxium? I can't make it display adium themes
[10:48] <pen> how could I make it work
[10:48] <dr_Willis> Other then the ones that cant get them to work.. :)
[10:48] <Templis> Hi, I'm trying to make a CS server on xubuntu 7.10 install CD, can anyone here help me?
[10:48] <MrLukipela> YAY i fixed my border issue, lets see if it will let me into my terminal though..
[10:48] <fr4nk-k> Templis: Well, I definetly can'T help you, but what exactly is your problem??
[10:49] <MrLukipela> Hey i finally timed out
[10:49] <Templis> I've never customized install CDs
[10:49] <dr_Willis> MrLukipela,  sounded like yoru video res was set low and the lcd just centered it.
[10:49] <MrLukipela> Yah
[10:49] <fr4nk-k> Templis: ah, understand
[10:49] <Templis> and don't know, how to put that server programm in CD
[10:50] <MrLukipela> dr_Willis: yes, after i figured that out it was pretty easy to see a solution, but now i get logged out when i try to enter a the command prompt.
[10:50] <fr4nk-k> Templis: Some time ago I've found a tool on sourceforge for customizing Ubuntu install cds. Maybe try sf.net for more information??
[10:51] <MrLukipela> This is awesome, when i reboot i get about 50 warning messages.  wish i could have read them all..
[10:51] <MrLukipela> ok, seriously, going to bed!
[10:51] <pan0983> gnite
[10:51] <fr4nk-k> MrLukipela: ok, good night
[10:51] <orphean> MrLukipela: dmesg
[10:51] <Templis> TNX, i'll try
[10:52] <fr4nk-k> Templis: np
[10:53] <pan0983> firefox32 & to run firefox?
[10:54] <fr4nk-k> pan0983: what exactly is your prob?
[10:54] <pan0983> hmm i did everything but when i run firefox32 &
[10:54] <pan0983> i get regular firefox 64bit
[10:54] <fr4nk-k> pan0983: did you uninstall FFx64 ??
[10:54] <Luxx16126> #software
[10:54] <raptor> #linux-nantes
[10:54] <pan0983> no
[10:54] <pan0983> i did not
[10:55] <fr4nk-k> pan0983: maybe you should
[10:55] <pan0983> k
[10:55] <eyeslocal> MrLukipela: dmesg | more ?
[10:55] <fr4nk-k> eyeslocal: MrLukipela already left
[10:55] <raptor> lu
[10:56] <fletschi> morning
[10:56] <pan0983> morning
[10:56] <eyeslocal> fr4nk-k: ahh sorry still getting used to chatzilla... don't see quits for some reason
[10:56] <raptor> bonne matine
[10:56] <fr4nk-k> eyeslocal: np
[10:56] <raptor> do you speak french
[10:56] <fr4nk-k> !English | raptor
[10:56] <Luxx16126> What`s the cell of   "toshiba Satellite A300" ? 6h??
[10:57] <raptor> ubuntu fr
[10:57] <raptor> ??
[10:57] <fr4nk-k> #ubuntu-fr i think
[10:58] <raptor> thx
[10:58] <fr4nk-k> raptor: np
[10:59] <pen> anyone here using galaxium? I can't make it display adium themes
[10:59] <pen> how could I make it work
[10:59] <Tomestat> Hi everybody !
[10:59] <fr4nk-k> Tomestat: hi
[10:59] <Tonehog> Anyone have experience with working with KMyMoney?
[10:59] <InsomniaCity`> Hi! I burnt Ubuntu to a CD, and ran the CD check, but it hangs on 73% of "Loading Linux Kernel"
[11:00] <Tomestat> I got a problem with dpkg after my update of this morning.
[11:00] <InsomniaCity`> Is this a CD problem? An ubuntu problem?
[11:00] <Tonehog> InsomniaCity`: try validating the CD
[11:00] <InsomniaCity`> Tonehog: thats what I'm doing
[11:00] <Tonehog> InsomniaCity`: it's probably a CD issue.
[11:01] <Tonehog> InsomniaCity`: your best bet is to do an md5sum check on the iso.
[11:01] <pen> anyone here using galaxium? I can't make it display adium themes
[11:01] <pen> how could I make it work
[11:01] <Tomestat> After update, i got an error message complaining about a segfault when restarting samba and from then, every operation on packages ends with an error message complaining about a syntax error in the file /var/lib/dpkg/available (i only have the error message in french). Can anybody help ?
[11:01] <InsomniaCity`> Tonehog: good plan, thanks
[11:02] <__ryan__> Tomestat, #ubuntu-fr ?
[11:02] <Tomestat> I didn't get an answer...
[11:02] <dismal_denizen> Does anyone know why there is no Debian package for NetBeans 6.1?
[11:04] <InsomniaCity`> Tomestat: where do I get the correct checksums? :S
[11:04] <Tomestat> the error message says there is a syntax error on the second line of /var/lib/dpkg/available (line with Status: install ok installed)
[11:04] <InsomniaCity`> Tomestat: sorry, meant tonehog
[11:05] <Antierick> heloo
[11:06] <Antierick> helloooo
[11:06] <amber_jo> i havent been on mirc for 4 year!!!
[11:06] <amber_jo> this is so intense
[11:06] <Otacon22> anyone know how to get slim the fluxbox bars?
[11:06] <pan09232> i finally got firefox working sighs
[11:07] <dismal_denizen> This is the first time I've used IRC - those enter/exit messages are driving me crazy!
[11:07] <Antierick> a lightweight linux
[11:07] <skillet_> dismal_denizen, you can turn those off...
[11:08] <eyeslocal> dismal_denizen: which irc client are you using?
[11:08] <dismal_denizen> eyeslocal: I'm using Pidgin
[11:08] <erdem_> #ubuntu-tr
[11:08] <amber_jo> im using a computer
[11:08] <amber_jo> it has pretty colours
[11:08] <amber_jo> and flashing lights
[11:09]  * dr_Willis unplugs amber_jo 's microwave
[11:09] <Jasra> is someone able to help me with screen resolution
[11:09] <pan09232> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[11:10]  * amber_jo plugs back in the microwave
[11:10] <amber_jo> i need that you know
[11:10] <amber_jo> whats the group with the game?
[11:11] <amber_jo> you know, the one where it asks you questions and you build up points by answering them
[11:11] <amber_jo> anyone?
[11:11] <amber_jo> its so lonely and col in here
[11:11] <amber_jo> alllllll by myself
[11:11] <eyeslocal> dismal_denizen: never tried that one, but i would think there's a way to disable join and part messages
[11:11] <amber_jo> im going to murderlise this laptop
[11:12] <amber_jo> help
[11:12] <skillet> dismal_denizen, if you look at the plugins there is a join/part hiding plugin you can enable for pidgin
[11:12] <gluer> im using alsa sound...why when i play music through one app, it wont work in another?
[11:12] <JensB> Hi everybody
[11:12] <dismal_denizen> skillet: So there is!
[11:13] <sea_wolf> I'm having trouble installing fonts, I have quite a few....does anyone know where to put them so all my programs automatically find them??
[11:13] <amber_jo> im using my microwave
[11:13] <amber_jo> micro micro micro wave
[11:13] <gluer> amber_jo: thats nice
[11:13] <skillet> amber_jo, why are you so strange
[11:13] <microwave> i dont really know to be honest
[11:14] <microwave> I think I am because I can be because I am not a sheep and I dare to be differant
[11:14] <microwave> its hard though
[11:14] <dismal_denizen> Anyone seen Big Buck Bunny?
[11:14] <microwave> i was telling my friend yesterday
[11:14] <ninjabuntu> i have it actully very good
[11:14] <skillet> no i dont think thats it
[11:14] <gluer> microwave: mate your a tosser, can you just f%^k off somewhere else...
[11:15] <microwave> when everyone is sheep and u just want to stand on your hind legs and scream baaaaaa i want to become a hippy and grown organic vegetables - its hard
[11:15] <JensB> I have just set up a dmcrypt/LUKS protected /home and swap (aes-xts-plain, sha256, 256bits). I use the same (pretty complex) password for LUKS, console login and samba, so pam_mount works (like a charm). Is this "safe enough" or is it pretty easy to revocer passwords from the /etc/passwd file or the smbpasswd file?
[11:15] <ninjabuntu> dismal_denizen: have it actully very good
[11:15] <microwave> females cannot be tossers
[11:15] <microwave> perhaps a flosser?
[11:15] <Knightly88> Can anyone tell me if it's possible to copy 1 Ubuntu System and somehow copy it OVER another copy of Ubuntu on an external hard drive?
[11:16] <dismal_denizen> ﻿ninjabuntu: It's amazing what they did with Blender
[11:16] <JensB> Knightly88, sure, but you'll destroy the "another copy of Ubuntu"
[11:16] <gluer> whens that damn system restore comming?
[11:17] <ninjabuntu> dismal_denizen: thats what finally broke me of my endles sceming to buy Maya. and want to learn all about blender wich then convinced me Open Source was the way to go... as good as any pixar movie i say...
[11:17] <JensB> gluer, are you talking about the menu that I get when I boot my Ubuntu into single user mode?
[11:17] <gluer> microwave: yes women are flossers! they just need to reach down and grab the dental floss
[11:17] <amber> sies
[11:17] <dismal_denizen> ﻿ninjabuntu: Glad to hear that! I'm not very artistic myself... 3D artists are amazing!
[11:18] <gluer> microwave: but only in winter
[11:18] <amber> why only in winter?
[11:18] <Knightly88> Yes... I don't care... I want to erase/overight the "new installed" copy of Ubuntu on my ex-hard drive with my MAIN Ubuntu copy from my PC... Any idea JensB how I can do that? Thanks.
[11:19] <gluer> kightly: norton ghost?
[11:19] <JensB> Knightly88, can you use the console / terminal?
[11:19] <Knightly88> Na... don't trust Norton, lol.
[11:20] <ninjabuntu> dismal_denizen: I'm also looking forward to project Apricot which is based on BBB's franky character. And since the Game feild is where i want to be, even just as a hobby. Hobby Game Developer is not tat bad... Look at Linux... It was started as a Hobby and GNU's OS wasn't exastly ready at the time. Now look what we have...
[11:20] <JensB> Knightly88, there are several ways
[11:20] <Knightly88> I can use the console/terminal yes.
[11:20] <gluer> kightly: yeh well it works for millions of others
[11:20] <dismal_denizen> ﻿gluer: Isn't there a similar thing called Clonezilla?
[11:20] <JensB> Knightly88, is the ext harddisk same size as the internal one?
[11:20] <Knightly88> No... it's bigger...
[11:20] <JensB> Knightly88, do you want to be able to use that extra space or don't you care (-> 1:1 backup)?
[11:20] <amber> i use my ACDB plug into my new galafruitloop esquire terminal with WWWk speed and then I install the graphics using LLm tunpike pc consoles
[11:21] <amber> u dig?
[11:21] <gluer> dis: you tell me, i use ghost with linux no probs, why muck around when something just works
[11:21] <amber> u see ghosts gluer?
[11:21] <amber> u shld see someone about that
[11:21] <eyeslocal> i used to use ghost, til i discovered partimage
[11:21] <g00LiPoP> Have any of u guys heard of some new Linux-Dist called MUsix? I seems kinda good if u work with music and stuff:P
[11:21] <Knightly88> Here is what is on my external HD: 230GB Ubuntu, 10GB Swap, 10GB FAT32...
[11:21] <amber> ur a partridge>
[11:21] <gluer> amber: your still upset at my comeback to microwave
[11:21] <dismal_denizen> ﻿ninjabuntu: I'm working on a game at the moment called "The Infinite Kingdom". It's meant to be a D&D based RPG written in Java.
[11:22] <amber> not really no
[11:22] <g00LiPoP> Dimsal_denizen: Nice:P
[11:22] <Knightly88> JensB here is what is on my external HD: 230GB Ubuntu, 10GB Swap, 10GB FAT32.
[11:22] <JensB> Knightly: Parted can do that. If you want a GUI, boot the desktop Ubuntu CD and use the "Partitioning tool" in System > Administration.
[11:22] <amber> i am just a sad lady whois work kills her and so i need to find some way to unwind
[11:22] <__ryan__> 10 gig swap is way too much
[11:22] <fma243> where can i get gparted
[11:22] <eyeslocal> getting ready to test out FOG.. open source ghost replacement that doesn't even require a boot cd, boots from PXE
[11:22] <skillet> what work do you do
[11:22] <amber> my fiance has gone to sell some baking equipment and i was on facebook
[11:22] <JensB> fma243, apt-get install gparted, or use the Ubuntu Live CD
[11:22] <gluer> amber: well im unwinding with a bottle of red, if your free why not pop over
[11:23] <amber> but now here i am just sitting in my yellow gown messing with u lovely ppl
[11:23] <Knightly88> JensB I have Gparted... and I already have partitions set up and a running copy of Ubuntu on the external HD... I just want to copy my version of Ubuntu on my desktop HD to my external and overright... any ideas?
[11:23] <fma243> i cant find it in synaptic package manager
[11:23] <gluer> amber: funny that...
[11:23] <amber> gluer - im not joking thats the funny part
[11:23] <JensB> Knightly88, well, go for it. what#s your specific problem, what _exactly_ did not work? there's a menu "copy/move" when you select a partition in GParted.
[11:23] <gluer> amber: i know
[11:23] <gluer> hehe
[11:24] <sea_wolf> i take the silence to mean none of you know a thing about installing vast amounts of fonts...without changing system settings???
[11:24] <JensB> anybody know how "secure" the pw encryption in passwd and smbpasswd is?
[11:24] <Knightly88> JensB  .... a copy/move you say... I'll have to take another look real quick... Problem was that I didn't know if I could just copy/paste/overright the whole OS...
[11:25] <dr_Willis> sea_wolf,  put them in your users .fonts directory?
[11:25] <dr_Willis> sea_wolf,  thats about all i do.
[11:25] <JensB> Knightly88, it often helps just to try it out before asking whether it's possible. :p
[11:25] <sea_wolf> that slows the fuck out of the system....7000 some odd fonts.
[11:25] <JensB> sea_wolf, what do you need that amount of fonts for?
[11:25] <dr_Willis> sea_wolf,  tough decission then...
[11:25] <sea_wolf> graphic design...business.
[11:26] <da_yzman> hi
[11:26] <ninjabuntu> dismal_denizen: That pretty cool, actully... would mind being a part of a game project myself. But my skills are a bit lasking so far on the blender end, I know the theory of 3d art, but the tool I've choosen is in real need of work on my end. Still a game project would force me to step up my game a bit. Me I'm more of a props and Enviroment mesh artist. I can make really cool loking weapons and worlds but character design and animati
[11:26] <ninjabuntu> on still escapes me... still a DnD based game would be fun. And While i do love our lovable Tux, there is only so many times I can stand playing TuxRacer...
[11:26] <da_yzman> does anyone know how i can use synaptic to install firefox 3? the one on it is only 3.0 b4
[11:26] <__ryan__> what about openarena ninjabuntu
[11:26] <da_yzman> hi
[11:26] <Knightly88> JensB Yes I agree... I did use Gparted and try... I just didn't pay enough attention to the copy/paste as I was just partitioning at the time... Thanks for your help.
[11:26] <dr_Willis> da_yzman,  if you update/upgrade - it should install the latest I thought.
[11:27] <fma243> ahem can any one tell me where i can get gparted i cant find it in synaptic package manager
[11:27] <dr_Willis> da_yzman,  close out your curently running firefox if any.
[11:27] <dr_Willis> !find gparted
[11:27] <dismal_denizen> ﻿ninjabuntu: Want to help? I'm still feeling around myself though, I'm no pro.
[11:27] <dr_Willis> !info gparted
[11:27] <Rotlaus> I've set a wallpaper in my openbox autostart script, but don't see it because after log in the background is first set to the Wallpaper and then to the background color color set in gnome. How can i disable that?
[11:27] <ninjabuntu> __ryan__: Thats cool and all but I'm not much of a FPS Multiplayer sort of guy... I don't have the reflexes for it...
[11:28] <__ryan__> what about openarena ninjabuntu
[11:28] <__ryan__> oops
[11:28] <fma243>  !find gparted
[11:28] <dayzman-w> hi
[11:28] <dayzman-w> does anyone know how i can install firefox 3.0 using synaptic? the one on it is only 3.0 b4
[11:29] <ninjabuntu> dismal_denizen: I'll pm you... too much going on to have a convosation like this one over the open...
[11:29] <Knightly88> JensB problem... how do I copy my current OS to the ex-HD when I am USING the OS... am I going to have to do this process from a CD or boot or something? Gparted says my current drive is busy... being used... so I can't copy/paste it...
[11:29] <eyeslocal> dayzman-w: try an apt-get update first
[11:29] <pan09232> from a cd
[11:29] <pan09232> ?
[11:29] <dayzman-w> eyeslocal i have reloaded the list
[11:29] <eyeslocal> Knightly88: you can just do a bit-by-bit copy of one hdd to another with something like "dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb"
[11:29] <pan09232> run gparted from a cd?
[11:29] <gooody> how can i install Java runtime environment in ubuntu hardy?
[11:30] <amber> u have lost the game
[11:30] <fma243> i found it
[11:30] <fma243> oh btw i have another  question
[11:31] <dr_Willis> gooody,  i normally install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package. that grabs java, and other things you may want.
[11:31] <fma243> i accidently installed ubuntu two time and i want to remove one of the installations how can i do that
[11:32] <fma243> and also i seem to have no power over my hd partitions
[11:32] <dr_Willis> fma243,  use the partion manager tools to delete the install/partitions you dont want.. (be carefull) :)
[11:32] <dr_Willis> fma243,  then remove any extra entries in the grub menu.lst file.
[11:32] <gooody> ﻿dr_Willis: does JRE included in the ubuntu-restricted package?
[11:32] <Quicksilva> When I run mplayer in full screen the subtitles stay there and overlap each other instead of dissapearing when the next line pops up.  anyone know what could cause this?
[11:32] <dr_Willis> gooody,  i think it is.  Its a meta package of all sorts of other 'normally wanted' packages
[11:33] <fma243> dr_Willis: where is the grub menu.ist file
[11:33] <gooody> ﻿dr_Willis: thanks for the info.
[11:33] <mohkohn> The error was: /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf line 11: semicolon expected option domain-name
[11:33] <dr_Willis> - fma243  /boot/grub/ - and be CAREFULL when editing it..
[11:34] <mohkohn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23489/ is my  /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf
[11:34] <mohkohn> What am I doing wrong?
[11:34] <dr_Willis> im still not sure how you accidently install ubuntu.. :)
[11:34] <eyeslocal> dayzman-w: do you have your hardy-updates ("Recommended updates") repository enabled?
[11:35] <fma243> well it was a power faliure ubuntu was about 79% complete and there the power failure
[11:35] <fma243> so i installed ubuntu again
[11:35] <pan09232> question how does ubuntu know that when i type in console firefox32 it will load it?
[11:35] <eyeslocal> fma: removing it from grub will just delete it from the boot list, but not really get rid of it. To remove it proper, use synaptic
[11:35] <Mojo_> How do I find out my root password?
[11:35] <ytsestef> which command is the one that brings up the log off menu (shutdown/lock screen/restart etc) ??
[11:35] <dayzman-w> is firefox 3 not available to be installed on gutsy?
[11:35] <fma243> in the grub menu it gives me an option of ubuntu 7.04
[11:35] <dr_Willis> Mojo_,  there is none by default.
[11:36] <dr_Willis> !root | Mojo_
[11:36] <Mojo_> I thought that
[11:36] <Mojo_> ahh
[11:36] <dr_Willis> Mojo_,  your first user is your primary admin/sudo user.
[11:36] <Mojo_> so I just use sudo
[11:36] <eth01> http://duck.brb.dj/eth01/stuff/
[11:36] <eth01> er oppps. :) ignore
[11:36] <dr_Willis> !sudo | Mojo_
[11:36] <eth01> (wrong channel)
[11:36] <Mojo_> it's annoying when I'm on the desktop, and want to unmount things but I'm not a su
[11:36] <Mojo_> !gksu
[11:36] <dr_Willis> Mojo_,  depends on how they are mounted. :)  and what they are.
[11:37] <Mojo_> !info !gksu
[11:37] <Knightly88> Hey anyone know the command to "delete" in the terminal? Like if I want to delete a folder? is it like "sudo unset /myfolder/thisfolder"?
[11:37] <ytsestef> which command brings up the log off menu?
[11:37] <da_yzman-w> is firefox 3 available to be installed on gutsy? does anyone know of a repository containing it?
[11:37] <csk> Knightly88 its rm
[11:37] <csk> so its sudo rm ...
[11:37] <Knightly88> Thanks
[11:38] <dr_Willis> !shell | Knightly88
[11:38] <solrize> to get rid of an entire folder and all its subfolders and contents, use rm -r
[11:38] <solrize> -r means recursive
[11:38] <solrize> rm by itself only gets rid of one file
[11:39] <eyeslocal> da_yzman: you could actually download the bz2 file and install it yourself... it's rather simple
[11:39] <csk> does anyone here know why when i transcode using mediatomb i get this error.."access_output_file private error: cannot open `/tmp//mt_transcode_7U7SDU' (Permission denied)"
[11:39] <Knightly88> Soo.... how do I remove a directory in Terminal? whats the command?
[11:40] <howlingmadhowie> Knightly88: rmdir
[11:40] <howlingmadhowie> Knightly88: but that will only work if the directory is already empty
[11:41] <eyeslocal> grr I hate that annoying flashplayer bug that causes my firefox to crash ... anyone know a fix for it?
[11:41] <Knightly88> How do I remove full directories of files?
[11:41] <Knightly88> in terminal
[11:41] <zhaozhou> Knightly88: rm -rf
[11:41] <Knightly88> Thanks.
[11:41] <pan09232> ho do u move back a folder in terminal?
[11:42] <zhaozhou> Knightly88: be careful though, that wont ask you if it will remove it, it'll just do it.
[11:42] <zhaozhou> pan09232: cd ..
[11:42] <Knightly88> hehe. Thanks.
[11:42] <eyeslocal> da_yzman: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/install-firefox3tarbz2-linux/
[11:42]  * howlingmadhowie has now got a powermac :)
[11:43] <noz9010> you dont need a powermac to run ubuntu :-)
[11:43] <eramax> i need ur help ,i need to make a folder which refer to another folder as a link but folder to folder ? how that
[11:43] <dr_Willis> eramax,  ln -s folder1 folder2
[11:43] <eramax> ok thanks
[11:43] <dr_Willis> i always get the order backwards
[11:45] <fma243> dr_willis: i want to format my 19 gb(ntfs) hard disk (primary slave) and convert it into a ext3 or fat32 and gparted doesnt support ntfs
[11:45] <dr_Willis> fma243,  you mean 'delete' the ntfs and remake it as ext3? or you want to Save the data on it?
[11:46] <fma243> iwant to delete and make it ext3
[11:46] <howlingmadhowie> noz9010: i know :) but it looks very cool :)
[11:46] <Knightly88> Alright... last question for tonight (hopefully) how do I sudo copy my whole / directory? is there a "super command"? hehe
[11:46] <fma243> any program or command for it
[11:46] <dr_Willis> fma243,   make sure its unmounted. run gpated and delete the partition.. 'supporting ntfs' has nothng to do with it.
[11:46] <dr_Willis> fma243,  then after its deleted remake a new partition, of type ext3
[11:46] <fma243> thanks ill try
[11:47] <pan09232> we can copy whole / directory?
[11:47] <dr_Willis> 'format/convert' = much different from 'make a new' :)
[11:47] <pwizard88> err..does anyone know why gcc-4.3 package does not appear in apt-get (I have enabled all the repositories in the conf file)?
[11:47] <ketamin[e]> howcome when i try to copy a folder it says omitting directory whatever" ?
[11:48] <ketamin[e]> using the cp command
[11:48] <zhaozhou> fma243: Deleting a partition will simply delete all the data in that span and rewrite it with your ext3/fat32 filesystem. In a terminal you can use mkfs.ext3 or mkfs.vfat.
[11:48] <dr_Willis> ketamin[e],  you need to use the -r option, or was it -R....
[11:48] <Knightly88> !commands
[11:49] <dr_Willis> ketamin[e],  you may want to read a few bash/shell beginner guides
[11:49] <ketamin[e]> dr_Willis: it was -r.. thanks :)
[11:50] <karabash> how to install developer tools?
[11:51] <karabash> You know packages of tools
[11:51] <gluer> man some hardy updates stuffed my sound!!! any advice how i should get it back?
[11:51] <dayz_man-w> does anyone know of a repository for gutsy containing firefox 3?
[11:51] <karabash> anjuta doesnt work without it
[11:52] <noz9010> karabash: build-essentials is a start
[11:52] <karabash> oh yes
[11:52] <chronographer> Hi all. Anyone know anything about electricsheep? I want to limit its download speed during the day.
[11:53] <karabash> he wants something like glib
[11:53] <chronographer> Or maybe just block its access tot he internet
[11:53] <karabash> cant find it in repo
[11:53] <noz9010> karabash: apt-cache search glib | grep "if you need more"
[11:53] <chronographer> Can someone walk me through adding electric sheep to UFW (firewall)?
[11:53] <pan09232> electricsheep?
[11:53] <pan09232> wats that?
[11:53] <chronographer> its a screensaver, very pretty
[11:53] <pan09232> oh
[11:54] <dr_Willis> !find electricsheep
[11:54] <fma243> hmm i cant seem to write on the partition
[11:54] <chronographer> http://electricsheep.wikispaces.com/Electric+Sheep+FAQ
[11:54] <pan09232> ufw is firewall?
[11:54] <pan09232> right
[11:54] <pan09232> sudo ufw enable?
[11:54] <dr_Willis> fma243,  well you must run gparted as root. and the partition must not be in use/mounted
[11:54] <chronographer> theres a ppa with the latest version, it downloads hi res fractals using bittorrent while its running, then plays them as a screensaver
[11:54] <karabash> noz9010: ive already install grep but its like wrong package
[11:54] <pan09232> y would there be a sheep?
[11:54] <chronographer> yeah
[11:54] <chronographer> so sudo ufw disable electricsheep???
[11:54] <pan09232> ?
[11:54] <fma243> yea i have turned it into a ext3 but i seem to be unable to write on it
[11:55] <fma243> i cant change its permissions either
[11:55] <chronographer> its a run on the book 'androids dream of electric sheep'
[11:55] <noz9010> karabash: could you pastebin the error message from anjuta?
[11:55] <chronographer> or something
[11:55] <pan09232> hey this is pretty cool
[11:55] <pan09232> electric sheep
[11:55] <sheepminal> yea
[11:55] <karabash> there are no build tools/ just compile which doesnt work
[11:55] <dr_Willis> fma243,  you mean as a user? well a user has no permissions to things thats not owned by him. Make a directyory on the hd. and as root, chown it to be owned by the user in question. is one way
[11:56] <pan09232> wat does ufw have to do with the sheep
[11:56] <karabash> info is in polish so its useless but it says that cant find grep
[11:56] <gluer> im gonna have my bitch! why after installing updates for a stable release can they just destroy my sound capabilities..?
[11:56] <dr_Willis> pan09232,  i think he wants to open a port in the firewall for the program
[11:56] <chronographer> so electric sheep downloads heaps of great screensavers, but I want to limit or shut off its internet access. How can I do this?
[11:56] <pan09232> oh
[11:56] <karabash> geez glib
[11:57] <dr_Willis> chronographer,  not very easially i imagine. :) linux's firewalling dosent work that way.
[11:57] <dr_Willis> chronographer,  the program may have such settings allready
[11:57] <pan09232> ufw is confusing
[11:57] <usicow> I have an ubuntu 7.04 server, whats the safest way to upgrade it to 8.04?
[11:57] <pan09232> i used to use firestarter
[11:57] <chronographer> i looked, limited preferences
[11:57] <dr_Willis> it is?  its just a front end to iptables with a simple comman dline interface
[11:57] <pan09232> do we need firewall?
[11:57] <karabash> noz9010: **error** You must have glib installed
[11:57] <gluer> pan: firestarter is just a front end for iptables...
[11:57] <dr_Willis> !throttle
[11:58] <dr_Willis> I recall some way to limit net access of apps.. but i dont rember the specifics.. if thats all you want to do
[11:58] <karabash> Only compile autogenerate and Execute program are avaiable
[11:58] <chronographer> iptables is a firewall, firestarter is a GUI for it, as is UFW. firestarter locks up my computer at boot if I have it installed
[11:59] <IndoRama> usicow:System -> Admin -> Update manager worked fine for me
[11:59] <chronographer> ok I will go back to google, thanks
[11:59] <noz9010> karabash: apt-cache search glib | grep glib
[11:59] <zoobox> good morning
[12:00] <fr4nk-k> zoobox: good day
[12:00] <schoolinux> ﻿Hi, I'm using subversion on ubuntu and I'm getting the "connection reset by peer" error on every svn repo. I try. Can someone help me with this?
[12:01] <rambo123> hello every body,i cant find this file "mod_dav_svn.so" ..
[12:02] <zoobox> in nvidia-glx-new "100.14.19+2.6.22.4-15.11" (that the udate manager still don't say anything about what have changed and that I should wait til later) it is only 100.14.19 that is the real version number, right?
[12:02] <Lee> is there any way to make icons align to the right of the desktop instead of the left?
[12:03] <d3eniz> heyya all, could use some help again. Iv got cedega file on my computer. "cedega-small-6.0.tgz" how do i install it?!:S
[12:04] <chronographer> tar xzvf cegega﻿-small-6.0.tgz
[12:04] <d3eniz> after i have extracted it?
[12:04] <TTeeLer> hey, does anyone know how i can un-rar one of those downloads that come in loads of seperate rar files?
[12:05] <Lee> hi, is there any way to make the desktop icons align to the right of the screen, instead of the left?
[12:05] <zoobox> I guess I can search with google for that, but do anyone knows a standardplace on the web about the nvidia-glx-new update, now when ubunuts Updatemanager don't do it's work...
[12:05] <bazhang> zoobox, this is gutsy?
[12:05] <noz9010> rambo123: which software are you trying to run?
[12:05] <Jahromeo> !grub
[12:05] <schoolinux> ﻿Hi, I'm using subversion on ubuntu and I'm getting the "connection reset by peer" error on every svn repo. I try. Can someone help me with this?
[12:05] <zoobox> bazhang:  uhh... 7.10
[12:06] <zoobox> bazhang: (haven't got time to update to 8.04 yet)
[12:06] <bazhang> zoobox, you installed via restricted drivers manager?
[12:06] <d3eniz> >chronographer after i have untared it then? what's next?
[12:06] <bazhang> d3eniz, is there not a read me file?
[12:06] <zoobox> bazhang: I guess so... it was turned on when I started using 3D -things
[12:07] <d3eniz> cant seem to find anyone
[12:07] <chronographer> read the readme
[12:07] <noz9010> d3eniz: try install file also
[12:07] <d3eniz> i'v been looking for a "how to" but cant seem to find it
[12:07] <chronographer> usually you can 'make' and them 'make install' but its not that simple. What are you installing?
[12:07] <rambo123> ﻿noz9010>svn for apache
[12:07] <pwizard88> can anyone tell me what exactly is intrepid in relation to ubuntu repositories ?
[12:08] <tapas> how do i find out whether the ubuntu libglew1.5-dev package has been build with support for multiple rendering contexts?
[12:08] <bazhang> zoobox, check that it is enabled in restricted drivers manager
[12:08] <d3eniz> cedetga
[12:08] <d3eniz> cedega
[12:08] <zoobox> bazhang:  oh.. thunderstorm here. I must quit now
[12:08] <zoobox> I'll be back
[12:08] <tapas> i just ask because i get undefined references for glewContextInit
[12:08] <chronographer> ﻿d3eniz: cedega, the whole thing?
[12:08] <d3eniz> ye
[12:08] <bazhang> pwizard88, check #ubuntu+1
[12:09] <bazhang> d3eniz, cedega is payware; they should have support documentation and forums for that
[12:09] <Night_Owl> Question: If I boot off a live CD.. how do I change permissions on files on the hard drive to back them up?
[12:09] <bazhang> Night_Owl, on a linux installation?
[12:10] <zoobox> bazhang: and yes it is enable in restricted drivers manager
[12:10] <chronographer> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4428&page=1&pp=20
[12:10] <Night_Owl> Yes - a previous version of Linux.
[12:10] <noz9010> rambo123: have you installed libapache2-svn? also quote with space after my nick, otherwise i get no color highlichting for your response
[12:10] <chronographer> for deneiz
[12:10] <Night_Owl> er, of Ubuntu, rather.
[12:10] <karabash> noz9010: everything worx fine, thx
[12:10] <chronographer> just use wine, its workds pretty well. Follow a howto for installing a particular game
[12:10] <noz9010> karabash: ok, good luck
[12:11] <rambo123> ﻿noz9010>just installed it,thanks
[12:11] <d3eniz> not intressted in wine, i'v used it for a couple of products. but dont work with all
[12:11] <bazhang> d3eniz, better to use wine imo; check the appdb for what works.
[12:11] <chronographer> ﻿d3eniz:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9473   <---cedega is a pay for version of wine.
[12:11] <noz9010> rambo123: heres how i found it: apt-cache search apache | grep svn
[12:11] <chronographer> do a search, read stuff.
[12:11] <bazhang> d3eniz, this is not support for cedega; they have documents and forums.
[12:11] <Night_Owl> bazhang: Yes, it was a previous version of Ubuntu.
[12:12] <gwark> hi folks
[12:12] <bazhang> Night_Owl, you need to read up on chroot
[12:13] <gwark> how do i see what kinda wireless card i have via terminal ??
[12:13] <kahrytan> How do you reset custom icons?
[12:13] <bazhang> kahrytan, in ubuntu?
[12:13] <HPLHS> anyone know of a good HOWTO about Compiling from Source in ubuntu with the Build Essentils Package downloaded?
[12:13] <kahrytan> bazhang,  Yes
[12:13] <noz9010> !compile | HPLHS
[12:14] <chronographer> !ufw
[12:14] <HPLHS> Thank you
[12:14] <Knightly88> Hey people... So I'm trying to copy my whole Ubuntu / directory to a blank Ubuntu setup on an external hard drive... I can sudo cp to it fine... except for files/folders currently being used... my question is: "how do I: sudo cp -r / /media/mydrive" from the terminal while not using my OS? I can't copy my whole filesystem if I'm using it... but how else can I do it? Thanks.
[12:14] <dflm> hi
[12:14] <chronographer> ﻿Knightly88: use a live cd
[12:14] <dflm> is it possible to instqll  on mac os leopard ???
[12:14] <kahrytan> bazhang,  Why did you ask that?
[12:14] <dflm> apt-get ?
[12:14] <dynamethod> Hey there, i just used tar to create an archive using 'tar -cvvf foo.tar /foo', but the difference between the archive and original file in size is only 3mb's, how can i compress the file more?
[12:15] <dynamethod> this file being around 750mb's
[12:15] <bazhang> dflm, install what on mac os leopard
[12:15] <dflm> apt-get
[12:15] <dflm> is it possible ???
[12:15] <DjViper> dynamethod: you cant, it's a binary file, which means it can't be compressed
[12:15] <kahrytan> !info ufw
[12:15] <bazhang> dflm, mac os only is for mac computers; please see ##apple
[12:15] <noz9010> dflm: you want linux software for macos?  i heard of fink packages once
[12:16] <zoobox> Hmm.. I found a webpage saying that nvidia linux display driver Version: 100.14.19 was Release Date: September 18, 2007... why does ubuntu want to start using it now then? allmost a year after?
[12:16] <dflm> yes fink
[12:16] <dflm> fink can't find some package
[12:16] <dynamethod> so say i have a .rar archive full of installers(like mysql etc etc) it cant be compressed any further?
[12:16] <dflm> like gc+++
[12:16] <kahrytan> bazhang,  and hes talking about installing apt on macos i believe.
[12:16] <dflm> etc <<,
[12:16] <bazhang> dflm, that is offtopic here. this is ubuntu support
[12:16] <zeroc> hey there, anybody using dwm?
[12:16] <dflm> ok
[12:16] <dflm> bye
[12:17] <bazhang> dflm, check macports
[12:17] <bazhang> oops
[12:17] <rambo123> ﻿noz9010>cool solution for searching in cache,thanks again !
[12:17] <bazhang> kahrytan, you talking about custom themes from gnome-look or other
[12:18] <kahrytan> bazhang, no.
[12:18] <kahrytan> bazhang,  Resetting custom icons that were set on an icon.
[12:19] <bazhang> kahrytan, they are custom, so one would have to reinstall
[12:19] <kahrytan> oh wait. i found it
[12:19] <Night_Owl> bazhang: Am I able to chroot without having to edit files elsewhere - which, because I'm running off a live CD at the moment, I'm not sure I'll be able to do in the first place..?
[12:19] <kahrytan> bazhang,  And i wasnt talking about themes.
[12:20] <dayz_man-w> hi
[12:20] <Chrysalis> how do you all keep track of different commands? sure the basics are easy to remember but there has to be a better way to spending hours at man pages... maybe something like bookmarks etc?
[12:20] <kahrytan> bazhang,  but i figured it out. Clicking revert button in changing icon does the trick
[12:20] <bazhang> Night_Owl, I just man'd chroot and there is a command there to get you going (its a very short read btw)
[12:21] <bazhang> Chrysalis, you break stuff and fix it mostly
[12:21] <bullgard4> How to determine the md5sum of a CD-ROM?
[12:21] <noz9010> Chrysalis: index pages in a unix book
[12:21] <bazhang> bullgard4, you mean an iso
[12:21] <kahrytan> Chrysalis,  wait a moment
[12:21] <molgrum> ok so i removed my nvidia drivers, and rebooted into 2.6.22-14. sure enough my usb mouse works flawlessly here but i cannot see any option to reinstall the nvidia drivers for this kernel?
[12:21] <bullgard4> bazhang: No, I mean the CD-ROM.
[12:22] <Night_Owl> bazhang: OK, as I said I'm running off the live CD.. it's currently in the GUI at the moment since I'm not really familiar with CLI-level.
[12:22] <bullgard4> bazhang: In order to test its integrity.
[12:22] <bazhang> bullgard4, md5 is for the iso not the cd; disk integrity check is for the cd
[12:22] <molgrum> also, i would like to file a bug for the latest ubuntu kernel. where do i do that?
[12:22] <tapas> bullgard4: md5sum /dev/cdrom
[12:22] <tapas> or something
[12:22] <rsk> molgrum: launchpad.net
[12:23] <bazhang> Night_Owl, what you are proposing needs the cli level interaction
[12:23] <bazhang> !bugs | molgrum
[12:23] <kahrytan> Chrysalis, here ya go. http://fosswire.com/2008/04/22/ubuntu-cheat-sheet/
[12:23] <gluer> my sound doesnt work anymore
[12:23] <gluer> how can i fix it?
[12:23] <zoobox> Hmm... I guess I can allways wait a week and see it the description for nvidia-glx-new shows up.....
[12:23] <kahrytan> Chrysalis,  and the orginal one in article too
[12:23] <molgrum> thanks bazhang
[12:24] <molgrum> just need to figure out how to install nvidia drivers for older kernels now
[12:24] <tapas> bullgard4: maybe with sudo
[12:24] <Zoiks> mounting/ownership has got me confused. Im trying to mount a raid that I setup somewhere. 1st I dont know where to put it. 2nd whenever I try and put it somewhere I cant copy to it because i dont have permissions to the damn folder I just setup and 3rd I have no idea on what options I should include in my fstab.
[12:24] <bazhang> zoobox, if you upgrade to hardy there is envyng-gtk to install all the latest drivers for ati and nvidia (it is in ubuntu repos)
[12:24] <Night_Owl> bazhang: I'm aware of that. I just wasn't expecting to have to modify permissions for files I made on my own machine.. but then again, the Live disc doesn't realize it's mine, of course.. lol
[12:24] <zoobox> bazhang: aha
[12:25] <bazhang> Night_Owl, can you not boot into the install itself and do it via cli that way
[12:25] <zoobox> hardy is 8.04, right?
[12:25] <bazhang> zoobox, aye
[12:26] <zoobox> can I upgrade to that without it changing visual things... I like the default 7.10 background etc...
[12:26] <bazhang> zoobox, the wallpaper and such? no reason you cant save those and then put them into hardy wallpaper folder
[12:27] <erUSUL> !fstab | Zoiks
[12:27] <octan21> hi, i am looking for some support to make a wireless card work over an ubuntu system, i have tried tons of things and followed FAQs, does anybody have the time to help me please?
[12:27] <bullgard4> tapas: The process Md5sum is running. How long does the command md5sum /dev/cdrom take to finish?
[12:27] <bullgard4> tapas: The process md5sum is running. How long does the command md5sum /dev/cdrom take to finish?
[12:28] <Night_Owl> bazhang: The one that's currently installed, you mean, ie not the CD? Probably.. but I'm trying to back them up on to a USB key and I don't know how to allow the system to read a USB key.
[12:28] <bazhang> octan21, what chipset (lspci in terminal will tell you)
[12:28] <octan21> intel 2200
[12:28] <zoobox> ok I should save the default background (and default colorsettings, windowborderstyle and things?) first before upgrading then,..
[12:28] <bazhang> octan21, that should work right out of the box; what version of ubuntu
[12:28] <octan21> 8.04
[12:28] <octan21> it´s an HP laptop
[12:29] <octan21> the wireless is detectd but in iwconfig appears as unassociated
[12:29] <bazhang> zoobox, the new hardy is not that different in that respect, best to run a livecd and see what is different (ie you dont like) and save those from gutsy
[12:29] <zoobox> ok
[12:29] <bazhang> octan21, you have a wifi hotspot to test on?
[12:30] <octan21> what do you mean with a hotspot? a differnet wireless AP?
[12:30] <InsomniaCity`> Hi! I just booted Ubuntu in livecd mode, played around with it for a bit, and now when I boot, my laptop tells me that "the battery cannot be identified"
[12:30] <bazhang> octan21, any one will do
[12:30] <InsomniaCity`> is this a known issue at all?
[12:30] <Chrysalis> kahrytan: just that one pdf page? its also missing the apt-get -u upgrade which i would recommend, i was sorta hoping for something more complete or maybe a terminal with bookmarks etc
[12:30] <octan21> i am sorry but i don´t understand , bazhang
[12:30] <carlyn> I'm trying to understand, not just use configure, make, make install
[12:30] <bain> hi, can somebody help me quickly with a NFS setup, I've setup the server with /file 192.168.0.1/24(rw,no_root_squash,async) on the server side but when I connect via client on network I get permission denied on chaning, uid of user is same on both machiens and user has write access on server
[12:30] <bazhang> Night_Owl, your system cannot see a usb key?
[12:31] <idefine> ati or nvidia? which do you think is better supported? will sli or crossfire be a problem?
[12:31] <bazhang> octan21, try sudo dhclient wlan0
[12:31] <octan21> i am trying to connect to my ADSL using  the wireless AP
[12:31] <octan21> the device is eth1
[12:31] <octan21> but it not works anyway
[12:31] <octan21> no dhcp offers are received...
[12:31] <bazhang> then sudo dhclient eth1 octan21
[12:32] <joshu> idefine: No support for crossfire in linux yet. SLI wont be a problem, but you'll not gain _alot_. Not near what you gain in windows, that is.
[12:32] <bazhang> octan21, you know how to associate the card with the ap?
[12:32] <octan21> no
[12:32] <bazhang> octan21, let me get you a link
[12:32] <octan21> ok, thanks
[12:32] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 octan21
[12:32] <idefine> zhaozhou: all i really need to do is hook up 4 monitors and do some compiz action.
[12:33] <Night_Owl> bazhang: I know it does if I plug it into a GUI setup.. I have no clue at CLI level though.
[12:33] <fawqu> does anybody know the name of the application on the right side of the picture? http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=73210&file1=73210-1.jpg&file2=73210-2.jpg&file3=73210-3.jpg&name=Slickness+Black
[12:33] <zhaozhou> idefine: If you run with one x-server, as in one long desktop, you could use one card and get one of those splitters.
[12:33] <bazhang> Night_Owl, how much stuff (in # of GB) do you have to backup?
[12:33] <kahrytan> Chrysalis,  then add it.
[12:33] <octan21> don´t know if this will help but if i do an iwconfig i see that the AP ssid is detected, the frequency appesrs, the AP adress appearts but it keeps saying UNASSOCIATE (it asks me for the WEP key anyway)
[12:33] <octan21> could it be a WEP issue?
[12:34] <idefine> zhaozhou: what splitters? you can do that?
[12:34] <Night_Owl> bazhang: Less than a gig.. it could probably fit on a CD if I had any around.
[12:34] <bazhang> octan21, you might try with it open to test first of all, then add wep next
[12:34] <zhaozhou> idefine: One DVI -> 2 DVI. One some videocards they actually send one->four dvi-splitter.
[12:34] <zhaozhou> idefine: but you'll have to use one, long desktop. Don't know what the name of that is.
[12:35] <esay> try Pardus 2008
[12:35] <bazhang> Night_Owl, sudo cp then to the usb key
[12:35] <bazhang> esay wrong channel
[12:35] <octan21> it did not work with open before, i sa a bug with open wireless and this is the reason i am using WEP
[12:35] <cgentry72> my internet at home hates myspace its slow but at work it is really fast what would cause this?
[12:35] <octan21> i am following the doc you pointed me to
[12:35] <idefine> zhaozhou: i thought they clone to two screens, not extend
[12:36] <bazhang> cgentry72, that is pretty bare bones info, could you clarify
[12:36] <idefine> zhaozhou: oh, man, that would be awesome, if you remember what they're called please let me know
[12:36] <b23> cgentry72: i had the same problem it was the router
[12:36] <cgentry72> b23, how did you fix it?
[12:37] <abchirk> Which program I should use for a Nokia handy? to sync and else..
[12:37] <bazhang> abchirk, what is a handy
[12:37] <b23> cgentry72: i bought a new one, netgear you have?
[12:37] <abchirk> hm thats a German word. :P mobilephone. :P
[12:38] <bazhang> abchirk, via bluetooth?
[12:38] <cgentry72> b23, no it is one provided by tel company
[12:38] <abchirk> Its a Nokia 6*** I don't know exactly which type
[12:38] <abchirk> bazhang usb
[12:38] <cgentry72> b23, 2wire
[12:38] <xubuntuuser> how can you edit the system menu?
[12:39] <abchirk> Right  click on it
[12:39] <b23> cgentry72: no idea sorry myspace is not the best html site on the net :)
[12:39] <bazhang> xubuntuuser, in gnome or xfce
[12:39] <zhaozhou> idefine: Sir, yes, sir. You know, i think one of those nVidia quadro sends one of those splitters. You could check it out, could get you a thread to follow.
[12:39] <octan21> Bazhang, i followed the lin you pointed me to, the dhclient does not receive any offer
[12:39] <areels> how can i make a space ship to go for searching alien life forms?
[12:40] <bazhang> octan21, you associated the nic with the ap?
[12:40] <bazhang> areels, interesting question but offtopic here
[12:40] <sco02> Got a question regarding AD integration using Likewise and local user management. Is there a way to give a domain user local rights without having to edit /etc/group?
[12:40] <octan21> iwconfig says unassociated
[12:40] <xubuntuuser> ﻿bazhang xfce
[12:40] <octan21> i did the terminal stuff for wep...
[12:40] <bazhang> octan21, what command did you try to associate it
[12:41] <HPLHS> !bash
[12:41] <pkcahier> -!- No results found
[12:41] <octan21> sudo ifconfig <interface> down
[12:41] <octan21> sudo dhclient -r <interface>
[12:41] <octan21> sudo ifconfig <interface> up
[12:41] <octan21> sudo iwconfig <interface> essid "ESSID_IN_QUOTES"
[12:41] <octan21> sudo iwconfig <interface> key HEX_KEY <<<-------- If using ASCII Equivalent, this is s:ASCII_KEY (please make note of the prefix s:)
[12:41] <octan21> ****Additional Comand that may be needed  -- sudo iwconfig <interface> key open  <<<----See note below
[12:41] <octan21> sudo iwconfig <interface> mode Managed
[12:41] <FloodBot1> octan21: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:41] <zhaozhou> Huh.
[12:42] <zhaozhou> Bash != gnome-terminal.
[12:42] <J2> can anyone teach me how to install a file like this? http://www.rainslick.com/
[12:42] <octan21> iwconfig eth1 essid "xxxx" , this is what i did
[12:42] <J2> its not a deb file so im kinda lost
[12:42] <LeeJarratt> Hello
[12:42] <Isherwood> exit
[12:42] <LeeJarratt> Is this the official Ubuntu IRC Channel?
[12:42] <zhaozhou> LeeJarratt: Yes.
[12:42] <danbhfive> LeeJarratt: is the official Ubuntu support channel
[12:42] <PriceChild> !bash
[12:43] <LeeJarratt> Ah okay, thank you
[12:43] <pkcahier> -!- No results found
[12:43] <PriceChild> !testy
[12:43] <ompaul> !bash2
[12:43] <noz9010> J2: download and click on it in nautilus
[12:43] <mysterycool> Hey
[12:43] <LeeJarratt> Hello
[12:43] <mysterycool> I have unrar-free, how do I unrar?
[12:43] <bazhang> !test
[12:43] <rsk> mysterycool: unrar x file
[12:44] <yfk> is there a way to bun an avi file on a dvd as a video dvd using brasero?
[12:44] <bazhang> yfk, try devede
[12:44] <LeeJarratt> Is anyone using Alpha 1 of Intrepid Ibex?
[12:45] <octan21> any idea for my damn wireless? ;-)
[12:45] <idefine> zhaozhou: i don't believe it's possible, from everything i'm reading online
[12:45] <idefine> zhaozhou: you will need 2 graphic cards or 2 outs.
[12:45] <mysterycool> I have unrar-free, how do I unrar?
[12:45] <orphean> LeeJarratt: #ubuntu+1 will have people using it.
[12:45] <rsk> mysterycool: listen to mme?
[12:45] <mysterycool> rsk: yes
[12:45] <mysterycool> did not work
[12:45] <LeeJarratt> Ah right, cheers dude
[12:46] <rsk> ok
[12:46] <rsk> what was the output
[12:46] <e-jat> mysterycool, unrar e file.rar
[12:46] <mysterycool> The program 'unrar' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[12:46] <KFC> std output
[12:47] <e-jat> sudo apt-get install unrar
[12:47] <rsk> heh
[12:47] <rsk> so not obvious?
[12:48] <zhaozhou> idefine: I'm 100% sure you can, i've seen it myself.
[12:48] <zhaozhou> idefine: Don't have the time to look now though, i'll get back to you on that.
[12:48] <idefine> zhaozhou: hmm, ok, please do, that would be a lifesaver for me
[12:48] <xubuntuuser> how can i edit in xfce the system menu?
[12:49] <octan21> does anybody knows how to see why a wireless is unable to associate to an AP?
[12:50] <J2> guys can anyone help me execute this? i downloaded the .tgz file but dunno what to do with it now. http://www.rainslick.com/
[12:51] <RonLut> I accidently removed my open programs from the panel in the upper side of the screen.... how do I add it back?
[12:51] <xubuntuuser> J2 what files are in the tgz?
[12:52] <yfk> bazhang: thanks
[12:52] <noz9010> !tar | J2
[12:52] <RonLut> The thing that shows the running programs..
[12:52] <LeeJarratt> I keep getting amd display drivers in my updates
[12:52] <LeeJarratt> I use intel integrated graphics
[12:52] <J2> xubntuuser - nvm i just got it working. kinda hidden executable
[12:52] <J2> thx anyway ^_^
[12:52] <idefine> J2: in the console do the following to extrac the file: tar -xzvf file.tgz
[12:53] <carlyn_>  I installed gnu classpath via synaptic and now I want to install a newer version locally in my home directory... how can I do this and keep the 2 versions straight
[12:54] <carlyn_> noz9010: do you understand install?
[12:54] <RonLut> no one knows how to fix it?
[12:56] <noz9010> carlyn_: why do you need two versions of claspath?
[12:56] <carlyn_> noz9010: at this point I settle for the latest I need to install - for another package that needs it.
[12:57] <carlyn_> noz9010: But I want to understand install  - I have seem to have problems everytime I use it.
[12:58] <CaptainSalty> Anyone here know about the Wubi project
[12:59] <magnetron> !wubi | CaptainSalty
[12:59] <noz9010> !ask | CaptainSalty
[13:00] <CaptainSalty> Is there a project/program that can install another OS like Wubi does (I am trying to make a quad boot system with Windows 98, 2000, XP and Ubuntu) and if I can do that for the 98 and 2000 partitions as well, that would be awesome
[13:00] <carlyn_>  noz9010: If you answered - I was disconnected without asking for some reason.
[13:01] <Nimblefinger> can anyone explain exactly what apt-get does, specifically things like where it searches for the package you tell it to install?
[13:01] <Nimblefinger> !apt-get
[13:01] <Nimblefinger> ahh...should perhaps have thought of that before.
[13:01] <danbhfive> CaptainSalty: wubi doesnt do that.  It install Ubuntu on a windows partition, without having to create separate partitions
[13:01] <CaptainSalty> yeah, I know
[13:01] <Serdar> hi, I am looking for a vmplayer package, but there is no one in the package management
[13:02] <CaptainSalty> I want to install multiple OS's on one computer, and if I don't have to deal with partitioning, that would make life so much easier
[13:02] <danbhfive> CaptainSalty: I think a vm is your only option, like virtualbox
[13:03] <noz9010> Serdar: you can safely use the installer from vmware HQ
[13:03] <skillet> virtualbox ftw!
[13:03] <CaptainSalty> yeah, but VM won't do what I need.   My Retro box is for gaming, and 3d virtualization is not there
[13:03] <carlyn_> CaptainSalty: This helped me http://apcmag.com/how_to_dualboot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_first.htm
[13:04] <danbhfive> CaptainSalty: then I think you are going to have to partition.  AFAIK, thats the only way
[13:04] <skillet> CaptainSalty, why dont you want to partition?
[13:04] <carlyn_> CaptainSalty: Included how to prepare the hard drive from Windows
[13:04] <eth01> skillet: :)
[13:05] <skillet> eth01, !
[13:05] <CaptainSalty> yeah.  that stinks.  I think Wubi would get alot of attention if it was seporated into an individual project :-D
[13:05] <eth01> skillet: just compiling a new version :-)
[13:06] <skillet> new version?!
[13:06] <CaptainSalty> I have done partitoning before when I dual booted fedora and XP way back at version 4
[13:06] <eth01> yes. check the download repo in the next 24 hours or so.
[13:06] <eth01> sunsystems have to manually verify it afaik
[13:07] <eth01> (as thats now the main mirror for downloading contrib)
[13:07] <skillet> eth01, i run virtualbox from my windows machine
[13:07] <unop> CaptainSalty, it's much easier using vmware or something like it - that way, you always have your primary OS online and you can boot the other OSes without having to go offline
[13:08] <CaptainSalty> thanks anyway guys, it's kinda dissapointing, but hopefully it will seporate into a different project eventually
[13:08] <eth01> skillet: ;)
[13:08] <CaptainSalty> but unop, I need 3d capabilities, and no VM project supports it natively
[13:09] <eth01> CaptainSalty: virtualbox will
[13:09] <skillet> i wodner how virtualbox will run inside a virtualbox vm
[13:09] <carlyn_> If you do an ./configure --prefix=whatever are you stuck with it forever?
[13:09] <skillet> hrmm
[13:09] <eth01> skillet: not possible.
[13:10] <skillet> how so
[13:10] <eth01> it's possible with expensive hardware which you won't be able to afford :-)
[13:10] <unop> carlyn_, not really, but it makes uninstallation of that package quite messy - not advisable
[13:10] <carlyn_> CaptainSalty: What Windows? XP or Vista?
[13:10] <chrisj> Is GNU gettext thread safe? Documentation at gnu.org says no but the configure has some flag "--enable-threads={posix|solaris|pth|win32}". I did not have the time yet to dig through the source; what I want is to use gettext in a multi threaded web server with different locales at the same time.
[13:10]  * skillet has the DoD budget behind him.... he does what he wants!
[13:11] <carlyn_> unop: I did a sudo make uninstall - but seem to be stuck with it
[13:11] <eth01> what, intel quad core, 32g ddr3 heh.
[13:11] <noz9010> chrisj: try a devel channel. ubuntu wiki has a page with a channel list
[13:11] <carlyn_> unop: test -z "/usr/local/classpath/lib/classpath" || mkdir -p -- "/usr/local/classpath/lib/classpath"
[13:11] <carlyn_>  /bin/bash ../../libtool --mode=install /usr/bin/install -c  'libjawt.la' '/usr/local/classpath/lib/classpath/libjawt.la'
[13:11] <carlyn_> libtool: install: error: cannot install `libjawt.la' to a directory not ending in /home/carlyn/local/lib/classpath
[13:12] <chrisj> noz9010: thanks
[13:12] <noz9010> carlyn_: why do you need two versions of classpath?
[13:13] <raboof> to report back: i can now leave the files on my usb drive open while hibernating
[13:13] <carlyn_> noz9010: javac is jikes with classpath and then I need the current classpath....
[13:13] <Easynic> Can anyone tell me whereabout on the main drive WINE places the "virtual" c drive by default?
[13:13] <carlyn_> noz9010: but I would be happy to override the installed classpath if allowed...
[13:13] <CaptainSalty> carlyn, I want to have XP, 2000, 98 and Ubuntu on the same machine, with XP as the main, and it does not have the hardware for virtualization
[13:13] <unop> Easynic, ~/.wine/c_drive
[13:13] <noz9010> raboof: cool, i was user__ once
[13:13] <raboof> did it by serving/mounting the usb drive though samba, and modifying the suspend/resume scripts to shut down samba and unmount the usb drive when suspending
[13:14] <Easynic> unop: Thank you
[13:14] <carlyn_> noz9010: but I did a sudo make uninstall ... then ./configure with no prefix ... make worked fine.. sudo make install acts like I used prefix
[13:14] <raboof> when resuming i mount the drive and restart samba, and continue working
[13:15] <chrisj> noz9010: ubuntu-devel says it's not for application developers :-/ ... In #gnu there is nothing going on right now. Do you happen to remember that wiki page?
[13:15] <noz9010> carlyn_: uh, sounds quite deep into the hood to me, you might try another channel in paralell. java classpath like this
[13:15] <raboof> noz9010: ah, thanks for the feedback earlier then ;)
[13:15] <EverettgM1819> i have a question, what ubuntu linux dist. should i use if my computer has a pentium 2 and only 10GB hd
[13:15] <xubuntuuser> is there anybody who can tell me how to edit the system menu in xfce
[13:15] <unop> carlyn_, you could install the other version of classpath in a chrooted environment
[13:15] <DRebellion> EverettgM1819, what's the clock speed on the pentium 2? How much RAM?
[13:16] <unop> EverettgM1819, xubuntu most likely
[13:16] <carlyn_> unop: what is a "chrooted environment"?
[13:16] <DRebellion> xubuntuuser, perhaps ask in #xubuntu
[13:16] <witakr> hello folks
[13:16] <noz9010> chrisj: http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&as_qdr=all&q=ubuntu+irc+channels&btnG=Suche&meta=
[13:16] <EverettgM1819> uhhhh, i really dont know, and it has 376.6 MB ram
[13:16] <witakr> how do i burn an image (iso) to my DVD-R?
[13:16] <DRebellion> !burning | witakr
[13:16] <zverj> hello. i have failed raid disc with filesystem type "linux raid autodetect". how can i mount that partition on another machine?
[13:16] <EverettgM1819> i think it was like 3oo something MHz
[13:17] <DRebellion> EverettgM1819, go for xubuntu
[13:17] <witakr> thanks DRebellion
[13:17] <vamushka> witakr:  just use brasero and use the burn image to dvd option
[13:17] <xubuntuuser> ﻿EverettgM1819: xubuntu uses not much system ressurces... it's quite quick
[13:17] <unop> carlyn_, a chroot is like a contained directory, with it's own root (/) where you can have another installation of linux and a whole different set of packages
[13:17] <noz9010> raboof: your using coda now?
[13:17] <EverettgM1819> thanx because my other computers mother board died on me so now i'm stuck with a stoneage computer
[13:17] <EverettgM1819> ok, is xubuntu reliable
[13:18] <unop> !chroot | carlyn_
[13:18] <balbir97> how to configure dialup modem in ubuntu, I am using soft-modem
[13:18] <EverettgM1819> is it like ubuntu, cuz that is what im usin and ubuntu is slow but i like everything about it
[13:18] <mado> hi guys - can you help me please? ...
[13:18] <noz9010> !modem | balbir97 this could get you started..
[13:19] <sheepminal> !ask | mado
[13:19] <mado> my firefox doesn't show me the space where the "X"-button, the name and such stuff should be
[13:19] <unop> EverettgM1819, xubuntu is ubuntu - only it does not use gnome as the desktop environement, it uses xfce - which tends to be lighter on system resources
[13:19] <minion35> hi how can i set up my svideo connection with ubuntu
[13:19] <mado> sheepminal, sorry ... i pressed "enter" to quickly :)
[13:19] <mado> can anyone please help me?
[13:20] <xubuntuuser> ﻿EverettgM1819: xubuntu's xfce con look like gnome or like kde - you can configure it in many ways.
[13:20] <EverettgM1819> unop: thanx, is it also 8.04, and does it get updates regularly
[13:20] <carlyn_> unop: I found https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/appendix-chroot.html but that confuses me more
[13:21] <DRebellion> EverettgM1819, yes and yes
[13:21] <unop> EverettgM1819, yes, yes, yes - it is a mainstream ubuntu flavour, just done differently
[13:21] <noz9010> mado: you have firefox without a header border?
[13:21] <mado> i don't know what it is called but ...
[13:21] <mado> just a sec please
[13:21] <danidfg> any1 help?
[13:21] <EverettgM1819> k thanx everyone, and one more question, does that have to be downloaded or can i get a live cd ordered?
[13:22] <areels> why i cant change keyboard layout? it stucked on english keyboard
[13:22] <Easynic> Ok, perhaps someone can help, I installed foobar under wine and everthing is fine - however, i now want to add the APE dll to play ape files but have no idea how to do this. Anyone help
[13:22] <danidfg> wireless isp settings
[13:22] <DRebellion> !shipit | EverettgM1819
[13:22] <carlyn_> unop: Is ubuntu so different to other Linux versions?  setting prefix and path are not an option with ubuntu?
[13:22] <areels> no matter what layout i select
[13:22] <noz9010> Easynic: both is possible
[13:22] <areels> always stuck with engish
[13:22] <DRebellion> ubottu, hmm, don't know if they ship xubuntu...
[13:22] <DRebellion> EverettgM1819, , hmm, don't know if they ship xubuntu...
[13:22] <noz9010> Easynic: sorry, wrong nick
[13:22] <unop> carlyn_, not at all - it just appears that classpath does not like being installed to a different prefix
[13:22] <balbir97> is there a way I can use my mouse in ctrl+alt+F1 to F6, in shell prompt without gui
[13:23] <DRebellion> balbir97, I do remember being able to do that in fedora, perhaps google their system?
[13:23] <unop> EverettgM1819, you ca
[13:23] <minion35> i need some help using an svideo connection with ubuntu.
[13:23] <unop> EverettgM1819, oops, download the cd, it's not much different to the regular live CD
[13:23] <noz9010> balbir97: yes, hold on
[13:23] <balbir97> ok, thanks :)
[13:23] <mado> hypn0, told me now noz9010 ... F11 was the key!
[13:23] <EverettgM1819> oh it is different a little bit, whats different?
[13:23] <mado> sorry for the panic
[13:23] <carlyn_> unop: Then how do I check what I have set as a prefix? and how can I unset the prefix?
[13:24] <hugh> hi
[13:24] <unop> EverettgM1819, what i mean is, you download the xubuntu .ISO - and burn it like you would do with a regular ISO
[13:24] <Gohanx3> hi, how do you make this change permanent?  sudo update-rc.d -f kdm remove <-- everytime I reboot its restored back to normal
[13:25] <EverettgM1819> oh ok jus making sure ok thanx everyone for the help ttyl
[13:25] <noz9010> balbir97: i think its gpm
[13:25] <unop> carlyn_, usually, to ./configure, you pass --prefix=/path/to/whatever  -- but you might have to do more, check the options to configure.   ./configure --help
[13:26] <balbir97> noz9010: ok I am trying to install it
[13:26] <Be1> HI GUYS! im running 8.04. I have a nVidia 7950GT which supports OpenGL 2.0. I have the latest restricted driver. yet my pc does not seem to have the libraries for OpenGL 2.0. could you please advise if there are any libs available and if so where I can find them. Ta, Ben
[13:26] <areels> why i cant change keyboard layout? it stucked on english keyboard
[13:27] <danbhfive> Be1: curious, how do you know you dont have the libraries?
[13:27] <carlyn_> unop: But afterwards ... how can you check what the prefix is actually set to? After make uninstall I don't understand why its wanting an old prefix
[13:27] <noz9010> areels: you can add a second layout and also activate it with the tick field
[13:27] <unop> carlyn_, you need to specify the prefix to the uninstall target because by default, it assumes, you have installed classpath to the default regular location, but you havent
[13:29] <Be1> danbhfive: I have just tried to install Cinelerra - a video editing app. at compilation it refused to compile with opengl enabled
[13:30] <Be1> ﻿danbhfive: it said I was missing the libs
[13:30] <Moes> Need help with error "undefined video mode"
[13:30] <balbir97> ﻿noz9010: you are right, gpm solves my query, thank you :)
[13:31] <carlyn_> unop: Thanks - I going to try to uninstall every classpath and start over... but I think I hearing - remember your prefix, there is no variable to check?
[13:32] <legend2440> Moes: http://blog.edirectories.info/2008/04/how-to-fix-undefined-video-mode-number-in-ubuntu/
[13:33] <unop> carlyn_, that would be correct, there is no way of telling afterwards what the prefix was you used -- which is why i suggest you use a chroot to install the other version of classpath to, that way, you can use the default prefix
[13:33] <noz9010> Be1: apt-cache search opengl gives you a long list for narrowing down the issue more
[13:33] <noz9010> Be1: "apt-cache search opengl" gives you a long list for narrowing down the issue more
[13:34] <monka> hiz
[13:34] <monka> so im a newb getting ubuntu
[13:34] <monka> but im not sure which one to get
[13:34] <noz9010> unop: isnt there something like configure.log written?
[13:34] <monka> my comp runs a 32 bit
[13:34] <monka> but it has a intel cpu
[13:34] <Leefmc> Question: Is there a way to get info on a package _before_ using apt-get install ___?
[13:34] <noz9010> monka: taka i686
[13:34] <perlsyntax> has anyone use the psh shell at all?
[13:34] <noz9010> s/taka/take
[13:34] <unop> carlyn_, think of a chroot as a seperate room in your house - with it's own kitchen, living-room, spare-room, etc -- a house within a house - what you do inside the room makes little impact on the rest of the house
[13:35] <Jack_Sparrow> monka Welcome.. if you have a question , just ask all on one line as complete as possible and avoid the 3 to 5 word sentences
[13:35] <Leefmc> Like version, etc.
[13:35] <Jack_Sparrow> monka many intell chips are 32 bit
[13:35] <Sergeant_Pony> How come on my bottom task bar I have it set to auto expand and on a reboot it defaults to the top?
[13:35] <carlyn_> unop: what's the difference between mark for removal and mark for complete removal? (search in help didnt help)
[13:36] <unop> noz9010, not usually, but that doesn't stop a ./configure script being able to log actions to a file  -- in either case, the source directory or other remnants don't usually stay on after the build process, they are deleted
[13:36] <Nicke_> carlyn_: The complete removal also removes any associated configuration files and things like that
[13:36] <unop> carlyn_, in the former, only the package's contents are deleted, in the latter, the configuration files are also removed
[13:36] <monka> so if my intel chip (intel cebrino duo) is 32 bit i should get the standard ubuntu?
[13:36] <monka> centrino*
[13:36] <noz9010> monka: yes
[13:36] <Jack_Sparrow> monka In fact, we strongly suggest new users run 32 bit even if they have a 64 bit system until they get a feel for how things work.  If you have more than 4 gigs of ram and really need to use it is about the only reason to run 64 bit for now
[13:36] <monka> ok
[13:36] <chrisj> noz9010: couldn't find any appropriate channel :-/
[13:36] <monka> thanks a lot =)
[13:36] <Nicke_> carlyn_: So if you only "remove" the package, and later reinstalls it, the config will be the same
[13:37] <noz9010> monka: good luck
[13:37] <Moes> Legend2440:: I have tried that blog info normal eliminates the script but then it also eliminates some entries in startup manager
[13:37] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[13:37] <gnudoc> i'm trying to use sed in a bash script to read to the nth line of a file: sed -n 'LINENUM{p;q;}' FILENUM. But i can't find a way to use a variable as the line number, any suggestions?
[13:37] <carlyn_> unop: and Nicke thanks - so I want a complete removal at this one
[13:37] <Jack_Sparrow> gnudoc /join #bash
[13:37] <dynamethod> Is there something similar to MySQL workbench for linux?
[13:38] <gnudoc> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[13:38] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[13:38] <noz9010> chrisj: hmm, too bad. maybe read the docu again or browse maillist archive..
[13:38] <unop> gnudoc, single quotes don't interpolate variables
[13:38] <Jack_Sparrow> gnudoc there is a good book on bash available in our repos
[13:38] <noz9010> chrisj: or search other projects build files and check their build switches. koders.com
[13:39] <unop> gnudoc, sed -n "$LINENUM.." file
[13:39] <Nathan406> Hello!!
[13:39] <legend2440> Moes: what entries does it eliminate?   what was vga=  set to before you changed it?
[13:39] <gnudoc> unop: thanks
[13:39] <Nathan406> it's 7:40 am in Jamaica
[13:40] <carlyn_> noz9010: thanks  after I uninstall I need to look at chroot
[13:40] <noz9010> gnudoc: in general. /j program and check their channel topic for links to FAQ
[13:40] <poningru> its 6:10 pm in india
[13:40] <Be1> noz9010: I've had a look and that gives me a massive long list of packages :s what am i looking for??
[13:40] <Nathan406> Kool
[13:40] <noz9010> Be1: well, you need to know :-)
[13:40] <Pas> hi can somebody help me? i've installed ubuntu together with win xp on my computer and i'd like to use the documents on the xp-part of my hard disk. is this possible? and how?
[13:41] <Nathan406> Can someone assess me in fixing this error
[13:41] <Gohanx3> hi, how do you make this change permanent?  sudo update-rc.d -f kdm remove <-- everytime I reboot its restored back to normal
[13:41] <poningru> Pas: just go to places->Computer
[13:41] <Moes> legend2440:: Vga was set at 791 the start up manager has lost the boot color info and the boot splash info
[13:41] <poningru> and find your windows partition
[13:41] <poningru> and double click on it
[13:41] <poningru> now just go to places->windows
[13:42] <unop> Gohanx3, well, what does the output of that command say? maybe there is something in the output to indicate what is wrong -- use the !pastebin please and show us what you have there
[13:42] <nikin> hy i tried to make my system bit smaller and issued a strip -s * in /usr/lib  at a point X server went down and it does not start again... i get a couple of BUS ERROR  responses... any idea what i should do to fix this?
[13:42] <poningru> and browse to your My Documents
[13:42] <tannji> when you download new programs with Synapse, where do apps gp if they dont show up in Applications?
[13:42] <poningru> nikin: wtf dude...
[13:42] <Nathan406> can someone assist,  Unable to mount the volume[13:42] <unop> nikin, that was a silly thing to do
[13:43] <Gohanx3> unop, hi, theres nothing wrong, at least to my knowledge, but you see after a reboot im back into the loginscreen kdm
[13:43] <noz9010> tannji: logout and login again (solves some issues). else: open terminal and enter program name and enter
[13:43] <Jack_Sparrow> tannji not all apps create menu list entries.  you can use synaptic to see where they installed and create a launcher for them as needed or run them from cli if you know the name
[13:43] <nikin> unop : why ? :P unless becouse it ripped my system in tiny little ieces :P
[13:43] <unop> nikin, strip is destructive, don't use it unless you know exactly what it does
[13:43] <tannji> Jack:  thanks, will try that
[13:43] <legend2440> Moes: if you click box in startup manager that says manage usplash  themes  are the any selections in there?
[13:43] <poningru> nikin: you essentially have to reinstall the whole thing
[13:43] <unop> nikin, i hope you have backups to restore from
[13:43] <Gohanx3> unop "Removing any system startup links for /etc/init.d/kdm ..." <-- thats all it says
[13:44] <nikin> poningru.. i use that whole thing now
[13:44] <Nathan406> can anyone help
[13:44] <nikin> so its not totaly hopeless
[13:44] <Na-Fiann> how do I increment an variable in an ubuntu bash script? ive tried 'let "e+=1"' but bash gives an error: let: not found (and yes, the script starts with #!/bin/bash)
[13:44] <unop> Gohanx3, and you sure you have kdm running, not the gdm or xdm or something else
[13:44] <Nathan406> with the error
[13:44] <Moes> legend2440:: No they are no longer available
[13:44] <unop> Na-Fiann, e=((e + 1))
[13:44] <Nathan406> ﻿Unable to mount the volume[13:44] <poningru> pas: oh!
[13:44] <poningru> uh... sorry dude I dont know how one can do that
[13:44] <Na-Fiann> unop: ty
[13:45] <poningru> anyone know how to access the windows files from wubi?
[13:45] <poningru> tell PAS please
[13:45] <unop> Na-Fiann,sorry e=$((e + 1))
[13:45] <itai-michaelson> hi, i'm using the traceroute command but keep getting **** as th eoutput, am i doing something wrong? (extra info - i live in china)
[13:45] <nikin> unop no backups :P not from theese files... but its ok...
[13:45] <Gohanx3> unop, yup kdm
[13:45] <Gohanx3> unop, cant I manually edit some startup file or something?
[13:45] <poningru> Nathan406: can you do an ls /dev and pastebin that?
[13:46] <nikin> just i want to know what went wrong, and what package should i reinstall.. or have something to reinstall all the packages?
[13:46] <Na-Fiann> unop: thanks, worked
[13:46] <poningru> Nathan406: applications->accessories->terminal and type in ls -la /dev copy that and go to pastebin.com and paste it there and give me the link
[13:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Na-Fiann Please find an appropriate programming channel like /join #bash for further question
[13:46] <poningru> oh hmm
[13:46] <legend2440> Moes: so when you boot up now there is no progress bar or usplah theme used?
[13:47] <unop> itai-michaelson, traceroute works by sending out icmp/udp packets to each router in the path -- but if a particular router decides not to respond to those requests, you get the *****
[13:47] <poningru> Nathan406: also when does this error come up?
[13:47] <poningru> can you go into the terminal and just do a 'mkdir /media/cdrom0' ?
[13:47] <Na-Fiann> Jack_Sparrow: sorry, I thought this might be ubuntu specific cause all bash tutorials said the original should work
[13:47] <nikin> hy i tried to make my system bit smaller and issued a strip -s * in /usr/lib  at a point X server went down and it does not start again... i get a couple of BUS ERROR  responses... any idea what i should do to fix this?
[13:47] <Nathan406> poningru: what's the link to pastebin again
[13:47] <itai-michaelson> unop i get that for all websites, would it have something to do with my own router?
[13:48] <poningru> !pastebin | Nathan406
[13:48] <fox-guy> what's wrong? E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libgnome-desktop-2_1%3a2.22.2-0ubuntu3_i386.deb: não foi possível instalar arquivo info (supostamente) novo `/var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/md5sums'
[13:48] <noz9010> itai-michaelson: maybe the reason is filtering from your ISP?
[13:48] <unop> itai-michaelson, no, this is to do with your ISPs routers, and other routers along the way -- most likely they have done this to stop people from getting to know the network i.e. to stop hack attacks, etc
[13:48] <biz> I'm coming from Debian, so I've tried 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' to get the list of possbile locales, select and generate the ones I need on my system. On a fresh hardy system however, this just prints all installed locales and marks them as 'up-to-date'. Whats the correct way to do what I want in Ubuntu Hardy?
[13:49] <Moes> legend2440::There is a boot splash on the screen but I have no way of changing it. The usplash is still there and available to change
[13:49] <Rza_> hai
[13:49] <eduritio> Hello
[13:49] <itai-michaelson> unop, noz9010 i guess its my ISP then, is there anyway around it?
[13:49] <poningru> itai-michaelson: it's probably because all the chinese routers are probably not allowing your to do icmp/udp packets
[13:49] <noz9010> itai-michaelson: i would think no
[13:49] <poningru> itai-michaelson: not really
[13:49] <eduritio>  My gnome desktop icons won't work anymore! They appear as text files. Do you have any clue about what could it be?
[13:49] <unop> fox-guy, run this command.   sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install libgnome-desktop
[13:50] <poningru> itai-michaelson: you can probably just use tor
[13:50] <poningru> eduritio: your icons dont work?
[13:50] <legend2440> Moes: well i guess it doesn't like normal. this page has other optons for vga=.  maybe one of them would work better  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution
[13:50] <unop> itai-michaelson, not really, why are you using traceroute anyway? are you troubleshooting something?
[13:50] <Jack_Sparrow> eduritio What all have you done recently that might have caused it.  Installed anything from unofficial repos or built from source, had a hard crash from power outage
[13:50] <eduritio> Yep, I started the PC and they all appeared as text files "x.desktop"
[13:50] <poningru> so if you click on them all of them seem to want to use gedit?
[13:51] <Moes> legend2440:: In my search for a solution one individual from the community forum suggest he used a ofo...number from the 80x25 etcHow would I know which to use
[13:51] <eduritio> Mhh.. perhaps it was a package called "gdesklets", which I took from getdeb.org
[13:51] <itai-michaelson> unop,  my friends website is blocked is unaccessible in china , but it caters to chinese clients
[13:51] <Nathan406> ﻿poningru: http://pastebin.com/m112e5318
[13:51] <poningru> itai-michaelson: that is probably the chinese firewall
[13:51] <bennyf11> hey does anyone know how to install Jboss Server on ubuntu??
[13:52] <eduritio> but I deleted it and then installed screenlets
[13:52] <unop> itai-michaelson, well, the chinese government does do this regularly, they block access to websites -- this is for political reasons
[13:52] <definitely> Anyone can help me ? Everytime i restart my PC, my video Hz resets to 53 :S And i can change it only with Nvidia Settings Controler then
[13:52] <definitely> :((((((
[13:52] <legend2440> Moes: do you have that link so i can see what he's talking about?
[13:52] <itai-michaelson> unop, i'm aware of that, but sometimes it comes back...its all very mysterious
[13:52] <XRC> #winehq
[13:52] <jonathan_> hello!
[13:53] <poningru> Nathan406: when did you get this error?
[13:53] <itai-michaelson> poningru, have you ever used tor?  VPN is probably better i think
[13:53] <Jack_Sparrow> eduritio there is something in all of that that messed things up.. did you have a backup available of your system
[13:53] <cypher1> definitely, please check the Hz values in xorg.conf
[13:53] <unop> itai-michaelson, well, it could be that it came back after someone decided it was ok to allow access - but then changed their mind later
[13:53] <poningru> !jboss
[13:53] <jonathan_> i'm using vfat on my external 1,8 Zoll hard drive.
[13:54] <jonathan_> i would like to create a folde called ACDC
[13:54] <poningru> itai-michaelson: no vpn requires someone on the outside
[13:54] <noz9010> itai-michaelson: VPN could be better, because Tor servers can also be "compromised" == in hands of government
[13:54] <poningru> tor is better because people already have volunteered their serviceses
[13:54] <jonathan_> but everytime i create the folder all upper letters are converted to lower case
[13:54] <seanh> Hey all, what's a good media player for ubuntu for people who don't want to use id3 tags? i.e. one the will browse music based on directory and filename
[13:54] <eduritio> Jack_Sparrow.. no I haven't got any backups...
[13:54] <Jack_Sparrow> definitely I see that when a monitors v/h rates are not properly detected and they system needs to guess at what they are.  find your monitors specs and specifically the v/h rates
[13:54] <poningru> noz9010: tor is not an anonymousing/securing service
[13:54] <itai-michaelson> poningru, i can buy VPN service in china, TOR is very slow for me, about 30 seconds to google.com
[13:54] <poningru> its meant for changing location
[13:54] <Nathan406> trying to install windows in virtualbox
[13:54] <jonathan_> i think it's because the whole name contains only uppercase letters
[13:54] <Moes> Legend2440:: That page has a couple of new numbers will try those. Thanks for the help
[13:55] <Sergeant_Pony>  How come on my bottom task bar I have it set to auto expand and on a reboot it defaults to the top?
[13:55] <eduritio> But all is working perfectly, excepting the lauchers :S
[13:55] <jonathan_> does anyone have an idea how to fix that problem?
[13:55] <Nathan406> ﻿﻿poningru: after trying to install windows in virtualbox
[13:55] <Jack_Sparrow> eduritio you can reset gnome back to default, but there is no guarantee it will fix it.  and uninstalling things you install yourself doesnt remove them in the same way synaptic or apt-get will
[13:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !tor
[13:55] <noz9010> poningru: sorry, i thought it was. wikipedia article f.e. tor (anonymity network)
[13:56] <eduritio> If I reinstall gnome ... could it be  fixed?
[13:56] <poningru> noz9010: thats what it was for
[13:56] <poningru> unfortunately its not so effective in that unless you take action to make it anonymous
[13:56] <Jack_Sparrow> eduritio you can reset gnome and try that..  let me give you a link
[13:56] <poningru> e.g have application layer anonymity
[13:57] <eduritio> ok
[13:57] <Moes> legends2440:: I did a search at the Ubuntu forum and found the discussions
[13:57] <Jack_Sparrow> eduritio To Reset All of Gnome: http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2007/02/14/how-to-reset-ubuntugnome-settings-to-defaults-without-re-installing/       In terminal type:         rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity
[13:57] <poningru> Nathan406: in virtualbox see if you can put in /dev/cdrom1 or /media/cdrom1 instead
[13:57] <hischild> What is the gnome power applet called? I'm trying to use it on fluxbox yet i can't find the name of it.
[13:57] <poningru> Nathan406: if that doesnt work do 'mkdir /media/cdrom0'
[13:57] <eduritio> thanks very much Jack_Sparrow, hopefully it will fix it! :-)
[13:57] <Jack_Sparrow> hischild powernow something
[13:57] <Jack_Sparrow> eduritio I wish you luck
[13:58] <poningru> if that doesnt work do 'sudo ln -s /dev/cdrom0 /dev/cdrom1'
[13:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !find powernow
[13:58] <poningru> Nathan406: ^^^
[13:58] <hischild> Jack_Sparrow, powernowd? That's the one which handles power settings. There's this small applet on the top right which shows your battery stuff, that's the one i'm looking for.
[13:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !info powernowd
[13:58] <poningru> hischild: battery applet
[13:58] <Nathan406> ﻿﻿poningru: to options are /dev/scd0 or /devscd1
[13:59] <poningru> Nathan406: where are those options?
[13:59] <dynamethod> Hi there, has anyone here successfully compiled MySQL workbench on 8.04? if so instructions needed lol
[13:59] <noz9010> poningru: sorry, last quesition. so that means chinese user can access chinese website from ip from europe f.e. but traffic is unencrypted?
[13:59] <hischild> poningru, yes. And what's the name of it so i can use it on fluxbox?
[13:59] <alt-> hello
[13:59] <poningru> hischild: not sure if you can use it in fluxbox... can you add gnome-panel applets to fluxbox?
[13:59] <Jack_Sparrow> hischild I will think of it in a minute
[14:00] <hischild> Jack_Sparrow, thank you.
[14:00] <Jack_Sparrow> hischild I think I know the one, but the name escapes me
[14:00] <Leefmc> Question: How would you create a command for the Console? I want to be able to run a bash script from anywhere, without having to name the directory structure.
[14:00] <hischild> poningru, i'm fairly sure it's just a program that can be docked, like pidgin and xchat but without the full screen stuff. I've done it with nm-applet and now i'm looking for the battery.
[14:00] <hischild> Jack_Sparrow, Should the name come to you, would you mind giving me a shout?
[14:01] <poningru> noz9010: what tor essentially does is connects you with a tor volunteer and then encrypts the data between you and the volunteer, then all your traffic comes out of the volunteers end
[14:01] <Jack_Sparrow> hischild sure
[14:01] <Nathan406> ﻿﻿poningru: in the area were i should choose host drive
[14:01] <eth01> Leefmc: alias
[14:01] <eth01> man alias
[14:01] <Jack_Sparrow> hischild there shold be one in gdesklets.. but there is a different one that I think you want
[14:01] <Leefmc> eth01: Ty
[14:01] <poningru> Nathan406: no those make sense
[14:02] <poningru> dont change those
[14:02] <Pas> i have installed ubuntu as a program under windows but i still like to use the windows documents how can i do this?
[14:02] <soulchild> Hi all, how can i view a svgz file (gzipped svg Graphic)
[14:02] <poningru> just do the 'mkdir /dev/cdrom0'
[14:02] <Agion> why dont my sounds work?
[14:02] <soulchild> Agion: more detailös
[14:02] <Nathan406> ﻿﻿poningru: CD/DVD-ROM
[14:02] <poningru> !sound | agion
[14:02] <poningru> Nathan406: can you run that mkdir command?
[14:02] <Jack_Sparrow> !pm > definitely
[14:02] <eth01> Leefmc: np
[14:03] <noz9010> poningru: thanks very much
[14:03] <poningru> soulchild: gzip it first
[14:03] <definitely> Jack_Sparrow: Ok so what i need to do for fixing ? :S
[14:03] <definitely> Coz by 53 Hz, it isnt good for my eye
[14:03] <Agion> soulchild: they used to work yesterday, but now they dont...
[14:03] <definitely> eyes''
[14:03] <poningru> soulchild: then just open it in firefox
[14:03] <fox-guy> i have a crystal 4281 soundboard.. hints anyone?
[14:03] <Jack_Sparrow> hischild gpmunmon-applet
[14:03] <Jack_Sparrow> definitely Did you do what I said
[14:04] <hischild> jack-desktop, Let me check.
[14:04] <definitely> Jack_Sparrow: I dont understand..
[14:04] <definitely> :S
[14:04] <soulchild> poing_: gunzip does not work, but i found the solution, i had to zcat it
[14:04] <fox-guy> unop: thanks for the apt-get clean.. it seem to solve.. not sure yet
[14:04] <Jack_Sparrow> definitely Did you look up your monitor specs.  What part of that did you not understand
[14:04] <noz9010> dynamethod: is it supposed to ne compilable on linux?
[14:05] <definitely> Jack_Sparrow: HMm, what i need exatcly to look ? I am 100% sure it can run by 85 Hz, coz was running that on Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Mandriva before
[14:05] <dynamethod> noz9010 according to this yes: http://forums.mysql.com/read.php?113,44592,44592#msg-44592
[14:06] <dynamethod> woops sorry wrong link
[14:06] <hischild> Jack_Sparrow, I'm sorry to say, but that one doesn't appear to be the one i'm looking for. You know that tiny little battery icon you have on laptops, when you run low it turns orange and red?
[14:06] <dynamethod> noz9010 here i mean: http://forums.mysql.com/read.php?113,44592,60971
[14:06] <Jack_Sparrow> definitely Find the specs/pdf on your monitor look for v/h rates. also called vertrefresh and hsync
[14:07] <Jack_Sparrow> hischild did you install with the noapic acpi=off options?
[14:07] <soulchild> how do i get svg support in gqview ?
[14:07] <carlyn_> unop: (and others) thanks - off to try the suggestions
[14:08] <Nathan406> ﻿poningru: i ran the command but nothing happened
[14:08] <Pas> i have installed ubuntu as a program under windows but i still like to use the windows documents how can i do this?
[14:08] <hischild> Jack_Sparrow, That's on my other box which had a lot of trouble (turned out to be a faulty graphics card). But on this box i installed it without that.
[14:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Pas Please go read the wubi faq's if that is how you install ubuntu..  FYI, that is not a good long term solution
[14:09] <Nathan406> ﻿poningru: it created the folder but still cant mount
[14:10] <odinriko> Is there an alarm clock for gnome?
[14:10] <definitely> Jack_Sparrow: HorizSync 30-96
[14:10] <definitely> VertRefresh 50-160
[14:11] <Jack_Sparrow> definitely good.. now use the pastebin and post your xorg.conf
[14:11] <noz9010> dynamethod: heres a link to a irc channel: http://dev.mysql.com/workbench/?page_id=28
[14:11] <dynamethod> oh cool, thanks
[14:12] <definitely> Jack_Sparrow: http://pastebin.com/m10e5f5ce
[14:12] <Jack_Sparrow> definitely what video card are you using
[14:12] <definitely> Jack_Sparrow: GF MX440
[14:13] <Leefmc> grr this is driving me nuts. What is the copy buffer called? I'm trying to retrieve that contents, in python.
[14:13] <Jack_Sparrow> definitely eeeeewwwww ok
[14:13] <vins> salve...c e qualcuno disponibile ad una domanda?
[14:14] <noz9010> !it | vins
[14:14] <vins> oh sorry i didn's know.....i go on italian site thank you
[14:14] <menik_chant> hei...
[14:15] <AniiTA_18> OLA
[14:15] <Jack_Sparrow> definitely cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.$(date +%m-%d-%Y-%T)            then look at http://pastebin.com/d21d3c5e9         and do you know how to change it back if you get locked out on reboot?
[14:15] <hischild> jack-desktop, gnome-power-manager was the one i was looking for. I just found it by accident.
[14:15] <the-herby> how much will change, if i do a dist-upgrade? will my settings and services still be in place and running?
[14:15] <definitely> jack_sparrow: No i dont know
[14:16] <fox-guy> is that enough info to help me?
[14:16] <fox-guy> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[14:16] <fma243> how to install tar.gz files
[14:16] <bazhang> fma243, themes or other
[14:16] <fma243> other
[14:16] <yfk> fma243: It's an archive file
[14:16] <noz9010> !tar | fma243
[14:16] <fma243> application
[14:16] <octan21> hi, could any of you point me to a howto for wireless drier firmware upgrade?
[14:16] <Jack_Sparrow> definitely if you get locked out to a cli prompt use sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf   to undo those changes
[14:17] <bazhang> fma243, is it an app? have you checked if it available in the repos?
[14:17] <yfk> fma243: is there nothing else than the suse version?
[14:17] <octan21> i´m on ubuntu 8.04 with intel2200
[14:17] <noz9010> the-herby: they should by design yes
[14:17] <definitely> Jack_Sparrow: ok thnx, going to try it out..
[14:17] <fma243> what is a repos
[14:17] <fma243> can u guys just tell me how to execute the files with in it
[14:17] <combo> hi, i have problem cuz can't log in e.g. in gmail service? :( under winXP it works as well :]
[14:17] <Jack_Sparrow> fma243 Lets start with what you are trying to install.
[14:17] <fma243> if ihave extracted it
[14:18] <Jack_Sparrow> fma243 How to install anything in Ubuntu: http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/
[14:18] <fma243> umm its a emulator
[14:18] <Jack_Sparrow> fma243 Which emulator
[14:18] <fma243> vba
[14:19] <Jack_Sparrow> fma243 What does that stand for
[14:19] <fma243> visual boy advance
[14:19] <fma243> ive got the linux version
[14:20] <noz9010> fma243: thats already in ubuntu hardy
[14:20] <octan21> any help for a non working wireless?
[14:20] <Jack_Sparrow> fma243 Did the file say specifically for ubuntu?  was there a deb availble for linux instead of a tar.
[14:20] <bazhang> !find vba
[14:20] <combo> might be this caused by Guard Dog somehow? :(
[14:20] <noz9010> visualboyadvance - a full featured Game Boy Advance emulator
[14:20] <Jack_Sparrow> !info vbaexpress
[14:21] <fma243> thanks i ll try the front end
[14:21] <overlord> bom dia
[14:22] <imaginativeone> how do I autojoin channels in pidgin?
[14:22] <Jack_Sparrow> imaginativeone There are much better irc clients  xchat for one of many
[14:22] <bazhang> !br | overlord
[14:23] <clarezoe> hi , is there any eclipse repositories, I wanna try the new version of it. but it's still v3.2 in ubuntu respository
[14:23] <bmw> hi all
[14:23] <fma243> oh btw i forgot to configure the sound can any one help
[14:24] <fma243> !find psx
[14:25] <bmw> who can me say what is tis  Errors were encountered while processing:
[14:25] <fma243> !find epsxe
[14:25] <bmw>  fglrx-kernel-source_8.501-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[14:25] <bmw>  --install
[14:25] <soulchild>  What do I need to vies SVG files (libary) ?
[14:25] <bmw> wen i install drivers for video
[14:25] <dell> hi, i just installed ubuntu 8.04 and i find it a little sluggish...is there anyway to make it better? and is it common for ubuntu to use 20%++ cpu cycle without doing anything?
[14:26] <fma243> !find divx
[14:26] <Leefmc> Question: Where is the best place to store a temp file? Preferably a temp dir with some files in it.
[14:26] <Psykar> Leefmc, /tmp
[14:26] <Leefmc> Psykar: K ty
[14:27] <halfSource> im a linux noob, im looking for a simple easy to use java IDE, any suggestions?
[14:27] <fma243> Can any one help me i am unable to write on 3 of my 5 partition disk it says under permission says owner:boot
[14:27] <Jack_Sparrow> dell turn off compiz effects... see if it is better then
[14:28] <dell> Jack_Sparrow: how do i do that? i am new to linux..first time using it
[14:28] <Jack_Sparrow> fma243 pastebin your sudo fdisk -l
[14:28] <Psykar> dell, System -> Preferences -> Appearance
[14:28] <WalloO> halfSource, use eclipse and add jigloo plugin
[14:28] <Jack_Sparrow> dell system .. pref... apearance.. last tab set to none
[14:28] <halfSource> Wallo0: will do
[14:28] <Quicksilva> I am having trouble with playing any full screen games.  screen goes blank or graphic problems.  I installed my graphics driver using envyNG.  any ideas what could be the problem?  i am using an ATI card
[14:29] <bmw> i was bannid in ubuntu-ru haw can i clear the ban please help me
[14:29] <halfSource> WalloO: whats the plugin?
[14:29] <Jack_Sparrow> bmw no in here please.. locos need to go to #ubuntu-irc   I believe
[14:29] <WalloO> halfSource, eclipse is the best ide. It's in your repository (synaptic). However, a new version (3.4 Ganimede) is available at eclipse.org. You don't have to install it, just unack somwhere and run eclipse.
[14:30] <fma243> !find sudo
[14:30] <WalloO> halfSource, in fact it is useful only if you want to create SWT or Swing interfaces using point and click system.
[14:30] <fma243> whats a sudo
[14:30] <nogagplz> ...
[14:30] <bmw> are in there Russians
[14:31] <Jack_Sparrow> bmw That is where your questions will be answered
[14:31] <halfSource> WalloO: i just need it for simple stuff, high school comp class
[14:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !sudo
[14:31] <zipper> halfSource, there are many good IDE's for linux... KDevelop, eclipse, code::blocks
[14:31] <WalloO> Quicksilva, is there a way to get ATI cards temperature?
[14:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !gksudo
[14:31] <zipper> halfSource, not sure which would be better for java though
[14:32] <Quicksilva> WalloO, not sure man sorry
[14:32] <halfSource> zipper: ill try eclipse, ive used it once before
[14:32] <fma243> ubuntu isnt detecting my sound what should i do
[14:32] <WalloO> halfSource, ok. But eclipse is really the best thing you can find for Java. There is no ide which can be better than eclipse. It's really too good. If you use another one after eclipse, you will cry.
[14:32] <bmw> i have many questions . I WONT install my ati card but its show me en error
[14:32] <dell> what about hard drives? i made a single partition but there is an unused 20gb space ...how do i access that?
[14:33] <bmw> cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[14:33] <bmw> Errors were encountered while processing:
[14:33] <bmw>  fglrx-kernel-source_8.501-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[14:33] <bmw> ????
[14:33] <FloodBot1> bmw: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:33] <bmw> whit is it
[14:33] <Jack_Sparrow> bmw STOP
[14:33] <bmw> ok ok
[14:33] <halfSource> WalloO: well, i dislike sorrow, so ill stick with eclipse
[14:33] <bmw> its onley a question
[14:33] <miSsil> a zewamel
[14:33] <yfk> bmw: how old are you?
[14:34] <Jack_Sparrow> bmw I am starting to see why you were banned in ru
[14:34] <miSsil> kai kif niya holanda meziyana ?
[14:34] <bmw> :)
[14:34] <miSsil> MrNaz kif niya australia
[14:34] <WalloO> halfSource, I don't know sorrow, but eclipse, is really the reference. Eclipse display errors in realtime while you code, it propose solution, etc... The refactoring option is really good to rename one variable everywhere, move a class, do all this things which usually are a headack
[14:34] <poningru> bmw: its rude to paste more than one line into the room
[14:35] <poningru> use pastebine
[14:35] <bmw> 23 . but haw can i sey my question ????
[14:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask
[14:35] <bazhang> miSsil, english please
[14:35] <poningru> !pastebin | bmw
[14:35] <WalloO> halfSource, trust me, I'm a java programmer, and I can't code with any other ide now.
[14:35] <miSsil> bazhang mechi tehawa
[14:35] <bmw> i copy from terminal
[14:35] <poningru> bmw: right thats considered rude
[14:35] <bmw> ok ok
[14:35] <poningru> bmw: if its more than one line of pasting just use pastebin
[14:35] <bmw> i understand
[14:35] <WalloO> halfSource, to install it, just run: sudo apt-get install eclipse
[14:36] <halfSource> WalloO: ok im gonna go with it, ive never written a line in java though so im new at it
[14:36] <poningru> so you cant install ati drivers?
[14:36] <bazhang> miSsil, indonesia?
[14:36] <WalloO> halfSource, after, if you want the last version, go to http://www.eclipse.org
[14:36] <Jack_Sparrow> bmw STOP hjitting enter after ever two words.. that floods the channel too
[14:36] <miSsil> bazhang morroco
[14:36] <noz9010> bmw: sudo apt-get install pastebinit . then use like command1 | pastebinit
[14:36] <WalloO> halfSource, eclipse will really help you.
[14:36] <fma243> where can i access sudo
[14:36] <poningru> bmw: ok so can you install any other software?
[14:37] <MolePrince> Howdy, under Ubuntu hardy heron with kernel 2.6.24-19-server, my wired connection will randomly drop connection with eth0 watchdog timeout spam and I must reboot.  This is on a headless server which requires 100% upttime.  How may I fix this, please?
[14:37] <bazhang> fma243, in the terminal
[14:37] <poningru> as in go to system->administrator->synaptic
[14:37] <Kimura> hello people
[14:37] <halfSource> WalloO: k thanx
[14:37] <bmw> es i can instal ewerything
[14:37] <fma243> oh ok
[14:37] <Jack_Sparrow> fma243 did youread the info that came up on sudo and gksudo
[14:37] <poningru> and attempt to install new software
[14:37] <Kimura> any 1 from mongolia here? or any 1 who knows the language?
[14:37] <miSsil> bazhang plz any channel help spanish or arabic lang  fedora core
[14:37] <fma243> yea
[14:37] <poningru> bmw: hmm
[14:38] <guss606> hello all..
[14:38] <hischild> !es | miSsil
[14:38] <bazhang> miSsil, #fedora
[14:38] <guss606> i need some help please
[14:38] <poningru> bmw: do an update in your synaptic
[14:38] <halfSource> WalloO: btw u know anything good for C++ or C?
[14:38] <Psykar> WalloO, is eclipse java only? Curious, as havn't used any IDE's for my uni programming yet, despite being almost finshed 3rd year.
[14:38] <bazhang> guss606, we need a question
[14:38] <guss606> thanxks...
[14:38] <Kimura> please, i need help with a translation, is 3 words
[14:38] <Kimura> i think it is from mongolia
[14:38] <Kimura> can anyone look and tell me if you know it?
[14:38] <poningru> Psykar: hehe thats a sign of a good uni ;)
[14:38] <bmw> es i do update every day :)
[14:38] <definitely> Jack_Sparrow: :(( Nothing changed, it just killd Nvidia drivers.. and now working by 75 Hz, when i'll install them back, it will be again only 53 Hz.....
[14:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Kimura Not in here thanks
[14:38] <bazhang> Kimura, babelfish website
[14:39] <Kimura> its a sound dudes
[14:39] <WalloO> halfSource, eclipse can do C,C++, but I don'T know if it's better than kdevelop for that
[14:39] <poningru> bmw: do a search for fglrx
[14:39] <co_cakepz_lg_Sed> hello mom
[14:39] <guss606> i run ubuntu 8.04, i'm trying to update and i get this error (W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com hardy-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[14:39] <guss606> W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[14:39] <guss606> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-security/Release
[14:39] <poningru> ...
[14:39] <guss606> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-updates/Release
[14:39] <guss606> W: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.)
[14:39] <FloodBot1> guss606: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:39] <poningru> gaah
[14:39] <miSsil>  bazhang nobody spoke in that channel
[14:39] <bazhang> !paste > guss606
[14:39] <Jack_Sparrow> guss606 BAd bad bad.. use the pastebin
[14:39] <WalloO> Psykar, eclipse is for java first, but it support plugins for C/C++, PHP, Python, and many others. I use it to code my screenlet in python
[14:39] <hischild> definitely, that's normal with the nvidia drivers. They report the wrong frequency despite working at the correct one.
[14:40] <bmw> i past my question in your Pastebin  and now haw qen i see the answer
[14:40] <definitely> hischild: So they show 53 Hz, but they working onl 75 ?
[14:40] <poningru> give us the link
[14:40] <guss606> i'm sorry i didnt know
[14:40] <miSsil> I want to know that I do command in the terminal to install a program and a plugin
[14:40] <halfSource> WalloO: i use C in robotics so a C ide would be great, ill try it with eclipse, r there just other modules for that that i need to install?
[14:40] <bazhang> miSsil, sudo apt-get install packagename
[14:40] <hischild> definitely, yes. My main pc reports working at 51 Hz and my laptop at 52 Hz, though they work on 75 Hz each.
[14:40] <Psykar> Thanks WalloO, and poningru, true somewhat, but larger source files get annoying without one at times >.<
[14:41] <miSsil> thx
[14:41] <bazhang> np
[14:41] <WalloO> halfSource, go to ecliupse.org, you will find everything you need
[14:41] <miSsil> kiss for you :d
[14:41] <guss606> ok i paste the error message there
[14:41] <bmw> i can install may driver licke restractid driver . bud i wont it install with original drivers
[14:41] <definitely> hischild: aaaa ok good to know, nice to hear :} thnank you alot
[14:41] <definitely> :)
[14:41] <hischild> yw
[14:41] <co_cakepz_lg_Sed> i love bibeh
[14:41] <WalloO> hischild, use nvclock if nvidia driver sucks for frequency...
[14:41] <halfSource> WalloO: ok, right now its installing with the package manager then ill check out the site
[14:42] <bazhang> co_cakepz_lg_Sed, please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:42] <definitely> hischild: You use envy drivers or simple
[14:42] <definitely>  ?
[14:42] <hischild> WalloO, why would i use something when i know the frequencies are correct? i don't mind if it reports them being wrong.
[14:42] <hischild> definitely, the restricted drivers, not envy. I've heard to many doom stories to even try it.
[14:42] <WalloO> halfSource, package on the web site don't need to be installed. that's the good thing. You can put it in yourt account folder and run from it.
[14:42] <bmw> question in there  http://paste.ubuntu.com/23513/
[14:42] <definitely> hischild: Ok thnx for info, do you know is it hard to make automount windows partitions ?
[14:43] <guss606> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23514/ ok here is the error i have when i try to update
[14:43] <Psykar> definitely, it should do it by default
[14:43] <WalloO> hischild, just a suggestion... it can be used to report temperature too for 8800GT (nvidia drivers can'T)
[14:43] <definitely> Psykar: I mean mount on boot, to have icons on desktop
[14:43] <hischild> WalloO, i don't watch temps, that's what i have a bios for. It reports those for me :)
[14:43] <poningru> bmw: try uninstalling the fglrx and reinstalling the thing
[14:43] <WalloO> hischild, never saw a bios reporting video card temperature.
[14:44] <Psykar> definitely, that is what I meant... at least for me windows partitions are mounted on boot automatically onto the desktop. Your's arnt? If so, what format are they?
[14:44] <hischild> definitely, you can edit your /etc/fstab to do that. Add a new line for your windows partitions and instead of just defaults use defaults,force
[14:44] <hischild> WalloO, it monitors them and shuts down my pc if it goes over a limit. It monitors my southbridge, cpu and gpu.
[14:44] <definitely> Psykar: Yes mine not, they are NTFS
[14:44] <hischild> Psykar, it depends on the type of installation. Alternate doesn't mount by default, desktop does sometimes.
[14:44] <MolePrince> Ubuntu hardy heron, kernel 2.6.24-19-server, my wired connection will randomly drop connection with eth0 watchdog timeout spam and I must reboot.  This is on a headless server, so serious issue.  How may I fix this, please?
[14:45] <bmw> i tray i uninstall all my driver in synaptic and install the original  lice in there  http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Hardy_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Manual_Method_.28installing_Catalyst_8.6.29 but its not workd
[14:45] <WalloO> hischild, which motherboard do you have to monitor gpu temperature?
[14:45] <bazhang> bmw, this is for ati video card?
[14:45] <hischild> an asus one, not sure which model.
[14:45] <halfSource> WalloO: ok good all set up
[14:45] <Psykar> hischild, guess I just thought because it worked for me... :P
[14:45] <bmw> es
[14:45] <hischild> Psykar, i've installed it a couple times on different machines. It almost appears to be machine dependent.
[14:45] <bazhang> bmw install envyng-gtk
[14:46] <WalloO> halfSource, so, have fun....
[14:46] <halfSource> WalloO: will do
[14:46] <Quicksilva> does anyone know the terminal command to check if my graphics drivers are working properly :SSSS
[14:46] <guss606> please guys, can anyone help me
[14:46] <hischild> Quicksilva, glxinfo | grep -i direct
[14:46] <bazhang> Quicksilva, which card
[14:46] <WalloO> hischild, but I don't understand how your motherborad can monitor gpu temperature since even nvidia drivers may not be able in some cases...
[14:47] <Quicksilva> im using ati 9600xt
[14:47] <Quicksilva> hischild, thanks
[14:47] <WalloO> hischild, except if your gpu is embedded on the motherboard
[14:47] <hischild> WalloO, my gfx card is able to monitor it and sends that data to my mobo. My old gfx card couldn't and neither could my mobo then. (ati x1300 before, current is 8600GT)
[14:47] <Quicksilva> hmmm it returns with yes for direct rendering yet no opengl games work
[14:48] <bmw> i instalall packeg but in this packeg ts tel me error fglrx-kernel-source_8.501-0ubuntu1_i386.deb  . i install the envyng-gtk but when i enable the compiz its not work
[14:48] <hischild> Quicksilva, do you have compiz enabled when you try to play a game?
[14:48] <Quicksilva> glxgears also gives me decent results
[14:48] <Psykar> Quicksilva, do you get any error messages if you open the game from a terminal?
[14:48] <Quicksilva> nope compiz is off
[14:48] <bazhang> bmw now run envyng-gtk
[14:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Quicksilva Have you tried turning off compiz before trying to runt ehm
[14:48] <bazhang> bmw it is in applications system tools
[14:48] <bmw> now i download the ati 8.34.8-x86.x86_64.run and tray with tis won its older but its original
[14:48] <nogagplz> hmm, since when was the use of envy sanctioned?
[14:49] <nogagplz> i thought it was frowned upon...
[14:49] <Quicksilva> tcompiz is off. and if i start the game the screen goes blank and says try running with desktop set to 1280 by 1024 at 60hz
[14:49] <bazhang> nogagplz, this is in the linux restricted modules now
[14:49] <Quicksilva> which i tried but just says the same thing
[14:49] <Jack_Sparrow> nogagplz Not ENVY.. from online  the one we tweaked and added to our repo
[14:49] <Quicksilva> I can run openGL screensavers fine too
[14:49] <WalloO> hischild, woaw... your a lucky guy... My asus 8800GT is not able to report accurately the temperature. So I don't excpect my Asus motherboard to be able to retreive it.....
[14:49] <Na-Fiann> does anyone know why simple c-style variable manipulation doesn't work in bash on ubuntu? - a command like (( a = 3 )) should evaluate in bash right? why doesn't this work on ubuntu?
[14:49] <bmw> who can me say what the defferans of ati original drivers and ubuntu restractid drivers ???
[14:49] <nogagplz> oh, well, I guess that makes it alright then.
[14:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Quicksilva I had some games like sauerbratten that needed a command line for the res I wanted to use because I have a wide screen
[14:50] <Leefmc> Question: How do you get arguments in a bash script? I want to pass all arguments given to an aliased bash script, to a python script. (python myfile.py)
[14:50] <guss606> guys please i need help
[14:50] <Raiders32> Hi I'm using Hardy.  How do you tell Update Manager to ignore updates for specific packages?  When I uncheck the one I want to ignore it is still checked when I restart update manager.
[14:50] <Psykar> Leefmc, $1 $2 etc
[14:50] <hischild> WalloO, i've had my share of bad luck before though. my first 8600GT was broken, so i spend 10 hours fixing ubuntu thinking that was the problem. then it really broke down and i returned it for warranty, after which i got my current card which is able to do it all properly, including monitoring temperature.
[14:50] <bmw> heloo
[14:51] <Leefmc> Psykar: Is there a wildcard though? For example, i don't want to force an argument requirement. I want "$1" to be optional
[14:51] <Psykar> if [ $1 ]; then; (do stuff); fi;
[14:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Leefmc Please find an appropriate programming channel like /join #bash
[14:51] <magnetron> hi, how do i install a "realtime kernel"?
[14:51] <Leefmc> Jack_Sparrow: Thank you
[14:51] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[14:52] <halfSource> how would i install windows without wiping out the GRUB bootloader
[14:52] <Quicksilva> Jack_Sparrow, yeah... i tried running a game not even in full screen and it gave loads of artifacts and completely unplayable
[14:52] <Luftetari> hi all
[14:52] <WalloO> hischild, I bought an asus since I though asus was good. But my 8800 gt don't have standard temperature sensors (they save some  money), so nvidia driver can't report temperature. I had to patch nvclock to be able to have the temperature reported correctly. That'S really bad...
[14:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Leefmc sudo apt-get install abs-guide
[14:53] <magnetron> halfSource: you install windows first.
[14:53] <hischild> WalloO, so basically it HAS a sensor in it, but the drivers can't report the temp? that sux man. ..
[14:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Quicksilva That wasnt what I suggested
[14:53] <Luftetari> a jeni mir
[14:53] <Luftetari> si jeni
[14:53] <magnetron> !grub > halfSource  (see private message from ubottu)
[14:53] <Leefmc> Jack_Sparrow: abs? On this same note, (it wasn't answered when i asked before), how would i get info on a package like "abs-guide"?
[14:53] <putrii> aluu...
[14:54] <jpds> !cn | Luftetari
[14:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Leefmc synaptic
[14:54] <halfSource> magnetron: that helps
[14:54] <Leefmc> Jack_Sparrow: Ah, k. I was just trying to use console hehe
[14:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Leefmc synaptic shows a blurb on the package..  you can get info from cli though
[14:55] <WalloO> hischild, in fact there is not the standard sensor which is used on all card and by all software to get temperature. There is only an embedded sensor (embedded in the GPU itself) which nobody use usualy, since it's not very accurate...
[14:55] <Xazax> hi i have some trouble with my internet connection under ubuntu. I have no trouble like this before everything worked well without anything to do until this time. And if i boot from live CD still have internet acces. I have an USB ADSL modem. Anybody have any idea what to do?
[14:56] <hischild> WalloO,  i see. Well you have your gpu temp monitoring so we're all happy =).
[14:56] <WalloO> Xazax, usb adsl modem is bad...
[14:56] <WalloO> hischild, yes... but that's a pitty
[14:56] <hischild> WalloO, it's better then nothing.
[14:56] <Xazax> but it worked well until this time and still work if i boot from live cd so i think there is a possible solution for it
[14:57] <areels> why i have no listed nvidia restricted driver?
[14:57] <Xazax> but i'm to newbie to find out
[14:57] <Armada> what's the difference between the fstab ntfs and ntfs-3g option?
[14:58] <joby> DCC SEND startkeylogger 0 0 0
[14:58] <Armada> according to the wiki the ntfs option only supports ro (readonly) access but I am able to write to the disk using the ntfs option
[14:59] <Armada> so what's going on here?
[14:59] <orphean> Armada: They are different drivers. ntfs is the older ntfs driver with fairly crap write support, ntfs-3g are stable read/write drivers
[14:59] <orphean> Armada: i recommend you not using ntfs if you're writing to the ntfs parition.
[14:59] <Armada> orphean: okay, so I probably want to mount is in ntfs-3g
[14:59] <The_ManU_212> hi
[14:59] <gopp> what a good version of ubuntu or linux that will run best under a petium 2 233mhz 128 mb laptop dell latiude cp
[15:00] <Jack_Sparrow> orphean Do you have a link showing the difference, I would like to have it as a reference
[15:00] <efrenefren> who has skype?
[15:00] <WalloO> hischild, yes, but you can't report fan speed and control fan too... That's too bad. I'm so disappointed by ASUS. If I can meet Asus video card manager one more time, I will say him what I think about that.
[15:00] <Ziroday> gopp: one that does not have a xserver
[15:00] <gopp> Ziroday which is
[15:00] <WalloO> gopp, maybe even with xubuntu you are low in memory... but you can give it a try
[15:00] <The_ManU_212> how to make a pdf file smaller (render pcitures down to 72dpi), i heard it is possible with gs or so, but how, now my pdf is 30 mb big because of pictures
[15:00] <Ziroday> gopp: take a look at puppy linux or DSL
[15:00] <Xazax> so nobody know a solution to my problem?
[15:01] <gopp> Ziroday k thanks
[15:01] <Armada> ophean: is there any down-side to using ntfs-3g?
[15:01] <gopp> !puppy linux
[15:01] <The_ManU_212> and i think of something like ghostscript <options> big.pdf small.pdf
[15:01] <The_ManU_212> is it possibleß
[15:01] <orphean> Jack_Sparrow: there is no such page i know of. ntfs is the internal kernel driver. ntfs-3g is a hybrid kernel/userspace driver.
[15:01] <slide> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on an empty area of my hd where I already have xp and osx installed on, i got to the point in the install where it says loading partition manager but nothing ever came up so I went to another console and ran top and see that "ntfsresize" is running and consuming cpu and memory, did this thing automatically resize my partitions? i never told it to do anything wtf
[15:01] <songtao> i've got a core2duo, but my ubuntu8.04 can scan only One. I grub with acpi=off, if not , i cant boot.
[15:01] <WalloO> gopp, but you will need to use the text mod installer
[15:01] <Jack_Sparrow> orphean I found a forum page that says they are not different
[15:02] <orphean> Jack_Sparrow: best of luck to you then
[15:02] <WalloO> Armada, yes, access rights doesn't work.. that's all. By the way ntfs-3g is installed by default in ubuntu8.04
[15:02] <Jack_Sparrow> orphean Just want to know where you are getting your info.
[15:02] <Jack_Sparrow> orphean In gutsy there is no difference between ntfs and ntfs-3g.
[15:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Ntfs is just an alias for ntfs-3g.            is a quote
[15:02] <orphean> Jack_Sparrow: http://www.ntfs-3g.org/ and the kernel source are excellent places to start.
[15:03] <Armada> Jack_Sparrow: okay, now I'm confused
[15:03] <WalloO> slide, I know that gnuparted can take a long time to launch some time... Maybe it's the same problem. just wait
[15:03] <Armada> Jack_Sparrow: so it doesn't matter which parameter I use?
[15:03] <orphean> Jack_Sparrow: in particular i point you the FAQ answer on the ntfs-3g site about when the ntfs-3g driver will be entering the kernel.
[15:03] <dragonrebel> does anybody know how to get my printers working using rdp (windows 2003 as server) using ubuntu
[15:03] <pastorwhipple> how do i find out the UUID for my filesystems
[15:03] <Jack_Sparrow> orphean the old ntfs driver was fuse and it was unstable
[15:03] <slide> WalloO, gparted isn't even running
[15:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Armada ntfs-3g will be fine
[15:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !uuid
[15:04] <WalloO> slide, ok
[15:04] <Armada> Jack_Sparrow: so use that parameter instead of the ntfs parameter?
[15:04] <zipper> NTFS FUSE.... how safe is it?
[15:04] <Jack_Sparrow> zipper Not safe for write
[15:04] <pastorwhipple> thanks!!
[15:04] <Armada> Jack_Sparrow: and one last question, in my fstab what does gid=46 stand for?
[15:04] <zipper> k
[15:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Armada busy reading atm
[15:05] <Xazax> ii have some trouble with my internet under Ubuntu. I have no trouble like this before everything worked well without anything to do until this time. And if i boot from live CD still have internet acces. I have an USB ADSL modem. Anybody have any idea what to do?
[15:06] <knight__> can some 1 in here give me a link to get avg 7.5 for ubuntu linux pls
[15:06] <Maddeth_Work> lol
[15:06] <DeadKennedy2880> xazax - you connect to the modem with a usb cable?
[15:07] <Xazax> yes
[15:07] <DeadKennedy2880> do you need drivers for th emodem while running windows?
[15:07] <Xazax> and it worked like plug and net untill now
[15:07] <Xazax> yes i need
[15:07] <DeadKennedy2880> already worked with ubuntu without installing drivers?
[15:08] <Xazax> yesterday everything worked well so i don't know what happened
[15:09] <Xazax> and even if i boot from live cd i can use internet with the same model and cable
[15:09] <DeadKennedy2880> xazax - hmmmm
[15:09] <Armada> Okay I have a windows drive and a data drive both ntfs, I need to regularly write to data disk but not so regularly to. should I just use ntfs-3g for both or just the data disk?
[15:10] <Armada> *to the windows disk
[15:10] <Jack_Sparrow> orphean In /sbin  it looks like all mount-ntfs , mount-ntfs-3g and mount-ntfs-fuse  are all symlinked to ntfs3g
[15:10] <Armada> Okay I have a windows drive and a data drive both ntfs, I need to regularly write to data disk but not so often to the windows disk. should I just use ntfs-3g for both or just the data disk?
[15:10] <Armada> Jack_Sparrow: so it really doesn't matter?
[15:11] <s-block> no
[15:11] <DeadKennedy2880> xazax - im stumped (not surprising) - so it worked plug/play at first but no cuts out on you
[15:11] <DeadKennedy2880> *now
[15:11] <s-block> it doesn't matter
[15:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Armada  I try to avoid writing to the partion of another os.. It may just be my opinion.. but I feel safer
[15:11] <s-block> I've been doing it for ages
[15:11] <azi_> i'd like to install ubuntu on a laptop already holding vista - are there any known isues if I just let ubuntu resize the vista partition?
[15:11] <s-block> I used to just use fat for files
[15:11] <Armada> Jack_Sparrow, yes but I need to be able to do that
[15:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Armada I dont hink it matters, but we all agree ntfs-3g is fine
[15:11] <s-block> but now ntfs writing is stable in linux
[15:12] <Armada> Jack_Sparrow: Okay, then my last question, what is the gid=46 parameter for?
[15:12] <Jack_Sparrow> s-block Yes we are aware...
[15:12] <s-block> yeah
[15:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Armada I would need to look it up or man it
[15:12] <Xazax> DeadKennedy2880, yes
[15:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Armada here is a line from my fstab /dev/sda5              /media/sda5-ntfs     ntfs-3g users,auto,uid=1000,gid=100,umask=007 0 0
[15:14] <Armada> this is my line: UUID=5EE8AF1BE8AEF087 /media/windows  ntfs-3g    defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0       0
[15:14] <acetaminophen>  2008Äê 6ÔÂ 28ÈÕ  10•r 14·Ö 50Ãë Saturday
[15:14] <Armada> Jack_Sparrow: it was automatically generated by the installation
[15:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Armada g= sets group ownership of mount point. Again may use group_name or GID #.
[15:16] <acetaminophen>  Jack_Sparrow  ¶¼ºÃ¶¼ºÃ
[15:16] <magnetron> Jack_Sparrow. Armada: you can get the UUID for a partition using "blkid" in a terminal
[15:16] <DeadKennedy2880> xazax - usb problem, im guessing the ports 'sleep' or the drivers you have installed for the modom arent perfect for linux
[15:16] <Armada> magnetron: I know, that is not the issue
[15:16] <DeadKennedy2880> xazax - if you could scrape up the windows drivers you might be able to install them with ndiswrapper and give it a go
[15:17] <legend2440> Xazax: what is make and model of modem?
[15:17] <Jack_Sparrow> magnetron I am aware of that thanks.. we are talking about gid
[15:17] <Xazax> i didn't install any driver to the modem
[15:17] <DeadKennedy2880> xazax - your modem sounds *rare*
[15:17] <DeadKennedy2880> i cant remember seing a usb modem, just usb adaptors
[15:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Xazax Dial up modem or dsl modem?
[15:18] <Xazax> motorola SBV5120E SURFBoard Calbe Modem
[15:18] <Xazax> DSL
[15:18] <fpiola> anybody know about my chances of fixing 8 kb of bad sectors on my hard drive with a zero write?
[15:18] <fpiola> ubuntu install won't do any partition related stuff because of em it seems
[15:18] <Xazax> and it worked well without any driver to install or any settings to change until today and i don't know why
[15:19] <DeadKennedy2880> xazax and you didnt install anything new?
[15:19] <acetaminophen>  DeadKennedy2880  ÐÒ¸£¼ªÏé£¡
[15:19] <Xazax> i removed pidgin i hope its not problem
[15:20] <DeadKennedy2880> acetaminophen - exactly
[15:20] <Jonny0stars> hello
[15:20] <DeadKennedy2880> xazax - doesnt sound like that would be the problem
[15:20] <LeeJarratt> Shall we talk about Ubuntu
[15:21] <Jack_Sparrow> LeeJarratt Ubuntu Support related questions.. sure
[15:21] <DeadKennedy2880> Jack_Sparrow - youve got nothing  for xazax?
[15:21] <Jack_Sparrow> LeeJarratt To chat about it.. /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:22] <c0nn0r> hi
[15:22] <LeeJarratt> I am new to IRC, so I wouldn't know what network or servers to set everything to join the offtopic room
[15:22] <LeeJarratt> *channel
[15:22] <Armada> Jack_Sparrow: Okay, thanks a lot, I now understand a lot more about the fstab parameters
[15:22] <Jack_Sparrow> LeeJarratt Type right where you are typing now                     /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Armada did you want a link for more
[15:23] <Xazax> and if i watch the connection information ip addres broadcast addres and othes ar 0.0.0.0
[15:23] <LeeJarratt> how would I be able to 'save' the channel so I can select it when I next start up XChat?
[15:23] <c0nn0r> hm how can I mount a usb storage device? (actually i'd like to browse a CF card /dev/bus/usb/x/y)
[15:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Armada http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131
[15:23] <Jack_Sparrow> LeeJarratt Type right where you are typing now                     /join #xchat
[15:23] <Armada> Jack_Sparrow: yeah I found that one myself too eventually
[15:23] <LeeJarratt> okay, thanks dude
[15:24] <Jack_Sparrow> LeeJarratt We have channels for everything that is not specifically ubuntu support  and some for specifice like video, sound and networking
[15:24] <Xazax> for dhclient eth1 it says no dhcpoffers recieved no working leases in presistent database -sleeping.
[15:24] <Jonny0stars> Im rather stuck trying to install the eeepc kernel headers, i keep getting an error about libncurses
[15:25] <Xazax> persistent*
[15:25] <Jonny0stars> is there anyway to install a specific package version ?
[15:25] <Jack_Sparrow> LeeJarratt no problem..  we are a busy channel and we try to maintain our focus
[15:25] <Jack_Sparrow> !pinning
[15:25] <Lloydie-t> IS there a way to check which application is using the serial port?
[15:27] <mysterycool> <?php
[15:27] <mysterycool> if(!isset($_COOKIE[username])) {
[15:27] <mysterycool> 	echo "<META HTTP-EQUIV=\"Refresh\" CONTENT=\"0; URL=../index.php\">";
[15:27] <mysterycool> }
[15:27] <mysterycool> ?>
[15:27] <mysterycool> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
[15:27] <FloodBot2> mysterycool: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:27] <mysterycool> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
[15:27] <DeadKennedy2880> xazax - wish i could help ya
[15:28] <DeadKennedy2880> xazax - if it worked and all you did was uninstall pidgin, and now it dont work, thats rough!!
[15:28] <wols> !errors | Xazax
[15:28] <Xazax> i don't really know what else i did
[15:29] <Xazax>  i was didn1T sleep a lot nowadays
[15:29] <DIL> it seems that some of my screen saver are not active -where are trhes files located on the system
[15:29] <n818gig> a
[15:30] <Jonny0stars> any one able to help with the following error - http://pastebin.com/d40eb57e6 ?
[15:30] <DeadKennedy2880> lol, ive played around with uninstalling some of ubuntus builtin *features* (tracker tool, evolution mail) - it usually responds well
[15:30] <VenkateshH-lapto> can some please help me with setting up and s-video on ubuntu?
[15:30] <tadzhikaz> where are language files of application? Ex. tsclient?
[15:30] <wols> Jonny0stars: equivs
[15:31] <halfSource>  anyone here get gmod to work in wine
[15:31] <Daisuke-Laptop> gmod?
[15:31] <wols> halfSource: #winehq
[15:31] <n818gig> hi, is there any bitcomet ported to ubuntu available for apt-get?
[15:31] <Daisuke-Laptop> and that's probably a question for #winehq
[15:31] <halfSource> garrys mod
[15:31] <LeeJarratt> My Ubuntu box freezes every now and again, and I don't know what's causing it
[15:31] <lwg> what's gmod?
[15:31] <Daisuke-Laptop> n818gig: bitcomet is a terrible client.
[15:31] <wols> n818gig: no, but there are lots of other torrent clients
[15:31] <Jonny0stars> wols: equivs ?
[15:31] <wols> Jonny0stars: that's a package
[15:31] <eth01> you want ABC for your torrents.
[15:31] <suxxor> i`ve got silly question i am using nano but i can`t figure out what mean ^O write out i mean which button i have to push to execute the command
[15:31] <eth01> http://pingpong-abc.sourceforge.net/
[15:31] <Daisuke-Laptop> n818gig: transmission, azureus, rtorrent, deluge
[15:32] <wols> suxxor: ctrl+o
[15:32] <eth01> it's the best available ;)#
[15:32] <Daisuke-Laptop> eth01: ABC isn't that special either.
[15:32] <Daisuke-Laptop> it's not bad though, not like bitcomet :D
[15:32] <eth01> Daisuke-Laptop: well i'm not debating it with you. but it is.
[15:32] <n818gig> the best client?
[15:32] <Jonny0stars> wols: oh, i guess it pulls the relevant versions of packages ?
[15:32] <Daisuke-Laptop> n818gig: azureus
[15:32] <wols> !best | n818gig
[15:32] <DIL> Jonny0stars: go to synaptic and look for broken packages - repair find pack that was unment and it stall also from synaptic
[15:32] <wols> Jonny0stars: no
[15:33] <n818gig> azureus quite a cpu hogging
[15:33] <Daisuke-Laptop> in my opinion, at least.  eth01 likes ABC, i know others that swear by rtorrent
[15:33] <VenkateshH-lapto> anyone?
[15:33] <VenkateshH-lapto> need help!
[15:33] <wols> !ask | VenkateshH-lapto
[15:34] <VenkateshH-lapto> can someone help me set up a s-video out on my ubuntu?
[15:34] <Jack_Sparrow> VenkateshH-lapto You need to come up with a more complete question that includes your video card information and what you have tried so far, what driver you are using etc
[15:34] <VenkateshH-lapto> how can i find that out?
[15:34] <wols> VenkateshH-lapto: start with what you did so far
[15:35] <wols> e.g what you have tried
[15:35] <legend2440> Xazax:  well i guess you could try this. no guarantees though     read first post    http://mandrivausers.org/index.php?showtopic=35372
[15:35] <VenkateshH-lapto> google a bunch of stuff
[15:35] <VenkateshH-lapto> and added a few lines to xorg.conf
[15:35] <wols> VenkateshH-lapto: better description
[15:36] <Sergeant_Pony>  How come on my bottom task bar I have it set to auto expand and on a reboot it defaults to the top?
[15:36] <acetaminophen>  2008Äê 6ÔÂ 28ÈÕ  10•r 36·Ö 02Ãë Saturday
[15:36] <wols> I google a bunch of stuff too. strangely enough it always ends with pictures of nude human femals. is it the same with you?
[15:36] <Jonny0stars> DIL: Thanks, i dint even know synaptic had that feature
[15:37] <nbl3> hello, Im looking for a way to add data (pics) to a DVD-RW
[15:37] <DeadKennedy2880> can someone recommend an easy to use, *.iso creating program, so i can rip both cd's of a game and mount the *.iso images and install with wine?
[15:37] <dell> is there anyway to combined partition ?
[15:37] <wols> dell: gparted
[15:38] <JensB> dell, parted can merge partitions. Gparted is the graphical frontend for it.
[15:38] <bazhang> k9copy DeadKennedy2880
[15:38] <ray_> !sata
[15:38] <annonymouse> hi folks can any one help me im using my ipod as a mass storage drive to copy video files across to windows, but the files size on my ipod is shrinking in ubuntu 7.10 but is fine in windows how do i fix this?
[15:38] <Jack_Sparrow> DeadKennedy2880 Your pushing it if you expect one program to do all of that.
[15:38] <ray_> any one know how to fix sata on ubuntu 8
[15:38] <dell> erm i just tried gparted...but it doesn't allow me to combine partition the the mountpoint
[15:38] <ray_> ?
[15:38] <DeadKennedy2880> Jack_Sparrow - i just need the *.iso creator
[15:39] <wols> dell: it works with devices, not mountpoints
[15:39] <wols> dell: and bot partitions must be unmounted when you do it
[15:39] <Jonny0stars> wols: What does equivs do then, i would read the manual entry but it doesn't have one heh
[15:39] <DeadKennedy2880> i have crossover and the sort already
[15:39] <Jack_Sparrow> DeadKennedy2880 Create ISO of CD Rom... dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/YourUserName/Desktop/file.iso bs=2k
[15:39] <wols> DeadKennedy2880: use dd. comes with every ubuntu by default
[15:39] <dell> aww that sucks..the / cant seem to be unmounted..
[15:39] <c0dz3r0> anybody know of a fix for the xllib/xcb locking issues for libXTrap (say when you run xtrapreset)?
[15:39] <Jack_Sparrow> dell USe live cd
[15:40] <dell> oh you mean the installation ubuntu disc?
[15:40] <ray_> Jack_Sparrow how i fix sata on my dell e1505 with ubuntu8?
[15:40] <annonymouse> can any one help me with a dodgy ipod
[15:40] <DeadKennedy2880> excellent, thanks gentlemen
[15:40] <Jack_Sparrow> dell there is also a handy gparted livecd, also note that you may not have a bootable system until you fix uuid's grub etc
[15:40] <user_> DeadKennedy2880: kiso
[15:40] <n818gig> what the different between metacity and compiz?
[15:40] <ray_> Jack_Sparrow for me?
[15:41] <Jack_Sparrow> dell yes there is a partitioner on the ubuntu livecd
[15:41] <annonymouse> xompiz is all 3d effects like the cube etc and metacity is just a normal desktop manager
[15:41] <annonymouse> compiz even
[15:41] <slide> man wtf, the ubuntu install won't freaking work.... it gets to 'loading the partitioner' but it never comes up!
[15:41] <ray_> Jack_Sparrow i dont have that any way to sudo install it
[15:41] <ray_> ?
[15:41] <Jack_Sparrow> slide lose the wtf and the attitude
[15:41] <bazhang> slide, that is not the optimal method of receiving help here.
[15:41] <nbl3> what program should i use if i want to add pictures to a dvd-rw that already has data on it
[15:41] <wols> Jonny0stars: /usr/share/equivs/
[15:42] <wols> Jonny0stars: erm, /usr/share/doc/equivs/
[15:42] <slide> i wasn't asking for help, just letting off a little frustration tyvm
[15:42] <Jack_Sparrow> ray_ did you post the error you get.  some of those need the sata in the bios set to emulate ide
[15:42] <Lloydie-t> how can I disable console [tty0]
[15:42] <bazhang> slide that is best done in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:42] <bazhang> oops
[15:42] <jpds> bazhang: Too.. late. ;-)
[15:42] <ray_> Jack_Sparrow so i go to biso and set to emulate ide right?
[15:42] <Jonny0stars> thanks wols
[15:42] <copernic__> mozilla firefox
[15:42] <bazhang> jpds, so I see :)
[15:42] <copernic__> is a shit
[15:43] <bazhang> no cursing please copernic__
[15:43] <host1wde3> Hi guys, i've this problem: while i'm connected via wireless and, for example, the router or the network device shutdown or turn off or crash my ubuntu goes blocked. I can do nothing and i've to shutdown by pressing the power switch on my laptop. Could you help me, please?
[15:43] <jpds> !ohmy | copernic__
[15:43] <Jack_Sparrow> ray_ yes..  see if you have that option
[15:43] <copernic__> put my cpu 100%
[15:43] <annonymouse> hi folks can any one help me im using my ipod as a mass storage drive to copy video files across to windows, but the files size on my ipod is shrinking in ubuntu 7.10 but is fine in windows how do i fix this?
[15:43] <ray_> ok will be back
[15:43] <dell> Jack_Sparrow: do i need to restart my com to access it? or just run it from the cd while in ubuntu?
[15:44] <user_> Lloydie-t: you need to disable "virtual concole" ttyS0
[15:44] <copernic__> someone know how upgrade the ipod firmware using ubuntu?
[15:44] <copernic__> without itunes
[15:44] <copernic__> ?
[15:44] <Jack_Sparrow> dell restart
[15:44] <bazhang> copernic__, cannot be done.
[15:44] <annonymouse> no chance copernic
[15:44] <copernic__> thanks bazhang
[15:44] <bazhang> np
[15:44] <slide> Jack_Sparrow, the one i want to instal on is 100GB, i have a 500GB and a 350GB as well
[15:45] <DeadKennedy2880> user_ - thanks, i had forgotten i installed kiso a few weeks ago.
[15:45] <copernic__> i need upgrade it but i havent windows in this machine
[15:45] <annonymouse> does any one know about why ubuntu might show an incorrect disk size?
[15:45] <slide> i already have the partitions setup
[15:45] <copernic__> :(
[15:45] <Jack_Sparrow> slide ide or sata, how old is the system
[15:45] <slide> i have 2 ide and 1 sata, the motherboard only like a year or 2
[15:45] <Jack_Sparrow> slide mixing ide and sata can be a problem
[15:45] <slide> should i disconnect the sata while installing?
[15:46] <Raiders32> Hi I'm using Hardy.  How do you tell Update Manager to ignore updates for specific packages?  When I uncheck the one I want to ignore it is still checked when I restart update manager.
[15:46] <Jack_Sparrow> slide It should not be necessary..
[15:46] <DickerDackel> Can anybody give me a pointer, where to look how to correct permissions on a cdrom mount?  The x-bit is missing.  I guess it has s/t to do with udev or the gnome-volume-manager, but I need a startpoint.
[15:47] <slide> omg it finally came up lol
[15:47] <slide> after 45 minutes :)
[15:47] <Lloydie-t> How can I disable a virtual console?
[15:47] <magentar> have the ati fglrx drivers for linux been getting any better in the months ?
[15:48] <raheem> Lloydie-t: /etc/securetty may be
[15:48] <dell> how do i burn iso to disc in ubuntu?
[15:48] <silvelix> can I ask about kubuntu here?
[15:48] <raheem> #kubuntu
[15:49] <ray__> Jack_Sparrow dont have that what now
[15:49] <th0r> dell, use brasero
[15:49] <raheem> !kubuntu | silvelix
[15:49] <Kaemon12433> .........
[15:49] <Kaemon12433> Java is'nt working
[15:49] <Kaemon12433> can anyone help?
[15:50] <cirkit> Kaemon12433: can you be a little more descriptive please.
[15:50] <Kaemon12433> k
[15:50] <ray__> is Jack_Sparrow here?
[15:50] <silvelix> i typed #kubuntu nothing happens
[15:50] <user_> ray__: y
[15:50] <silvelix> iḿ using mibbit
[15:50] <bazhang> silvelix, click the link
[15:50] <user_> ray__: type Jack_ and then hit tab key
[15:50] <ray__> ok Jack_Sparrow dont have thaat what now i do
[15:50] <DickerDackel> silvelix: type "/join #kubuntu"
[15:50] <idefine> how do i get an application's menu bar to become a part of gnome's panel? like so: http://alazanto.org/wrvisuals/screenshots/080120.png   any help would be greatly appreciated.
[15:51] <ray__> Jack_Sparrow ok  what i do now
[15:51] <Kaemon12433> Java 6 is installed...i have firefox 3 also...anyway i installed java 6 just recently...it did'nt work. so i removed all the java programs and only installed 6. but it still did'nt work...its been like this for days...java installed but firefox not detecting it
[15:51] <ray__> dont have that
[15:51] <Jack_Sparrow> ray__ STOP
[15:51] <ray__> ok
[15:51] <Kaemon12433> what do  i do? it's making me angry
[15:51] <silvelix> nothing happens
[15:52] <Jack_Sparrow> ray__ I have other things going on besides your question and for you to not show any patience is not a good thing
[15:52] <ray__> Jack_Sparrow,  im an a disbility person sorry
[15:52] <amenado> Kaemon12433-> java does not work?  type  java -version and tell us what the output is
[15:52] <ray__> will try to
[15:52] <host1wde3> excuse me, my Hardy heron crashes when my wireless connection becomes interrupted and if this occours twice i can't start the XServer and i have to format and reinstall all again. Could you help me please?
[15:52] <Kaemon12433> ok
[15:52] <Kaemon12433> java version "1.6.0"
[15:52] <Kaemon12433> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b09)
[15:52] <Kaemon12433> OpenJDK Client VM (build 1.6.0-b09, mixed mode, sharing)
[15:52] <nbl3> bah
[15:53] <silvelix> when i typed #kubunto it redirects me here
[15:53] <nbl3> why cant i find anything on how to add more data to a dvdrw
[15:53] <silvelix> kubuntu*
[15:53] <amenado> Kaemon12433-> your java is working okay..so it must be your app that does not have java in the right path or classpath
[15:53] <nbl3> can you not do it in Linux?
[15:53] <Kaemon12433> hmmm
[15:53] <nbl3> what program should i use
[15:53] <Kaemon12433> i'm a noob to linux...how do i fix it?
[15:54] <annonymouse> does any one know about why ubuntu might show an incorrect disk size?
[15:54] <Jack_Sparrow> bbl  need to feed the heron.. seriously.. in my front yard
[15:54] <the_eraser> lol=
[15:54] <host1wde3> is there anyone??
[15:54] <penthief> How do I get BBC radio player working with firefox 3.0?
[15:54] <Onebeer> bbl?
[15:54] <amenado> host1wde3-> you dont need to reformat when rebooting, crashes due to i/o is something i had experience..so just reboot
[15:54] <Onebeer> ahh..be back later
[15:55] <user_> nbl3: you can insert the dvd. then open nautilus and copy and paste data to the dvd
[15:55] <Kaemon12433> How do i fix the java problem then?
[15:55] <the_eraser> why does he have a heron in his frontyadr? LOL ??? :D
[15:55] <user_> penthief: what exactly is not working?
[15:56] <nbl3> user_ that dont work
[15:56] <penthief> user_: just upgraded to firefox 3.0b and I'm told told I need a realplayer plugin.
[15:56] <nbl3> it thinks its a dvd-r
[15:57] <Kaemon12433> *sigh*
[15:57] <thingy> !pastebin
[15:57] <cirkit> Kaemon12433: type locate libjavaplugin_oji.so
[15:57] <nbl3> and when i used the dvd/cd creator from the places it ask to format the disk before writing to it
[15:57] <cirkit> Kaemon12433: in a terminal
[15:57] <Kaemon12433> k
[15:57] <user_> penthief: i just opened the bbc player and it offers me also windows stream. which url are you using?
[15:57] <cirkit> Kaemon12433: paste the output if any on pastebin's website
[15:58] <Kaemon12433> mom@mom-desktop:~$ libjavaplugin_oji.so
[15:58] <Kaemon12433> bash: libjavaplugin_oji.so: command not found
[15:58] <Kaemon12433> mom@mom-desktop:~$
[15:58] <nbl3> dont past in here
[15:58] <cirkit> Kaemon12433: no
[15:58] <cirkit> Kaemon12433: open a terminal and type
[15:58] <cirkit> "locate libjavaplugin_oji.so"
[15:58] <cirkit> without the quotes
[15:58] <cirkit> Kaemon12433: paste the output on pastebin.ca
[15:59] <user_> penthief: have you all updates installed. firefox is now in 3.0stable
[15:59] <Kaemon12433> mom@mom-desktop:~$ locate libjavaplugin_oji.so
[15:59] <Kaemon12433> /home/mom/jdk1.6.0_06/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[15:59] <Kaemon12433> /home/mom/jdk1.6.0_06/jre/plugin/i386/ns7-gcc29/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[15:59] <Kaemon12433> /home/mom/jre1.6.0_06/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[15:59] <Kaemon12433> /home/mom/jre1.6.0_06/plugin/i386/ns7-gcc29/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[15:59] <Kaemon12433> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.06/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[15:59] <FloodBot1> Kaemon12433: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:59] <cirkit> omfg
[15:59] <nbl3> kaemon
[15:59] <penthief> user_: Oh really? Cheers...
[15:59] <nbl3> did u read
[15:59] <nbl3> pastbin!
[16:00] <eth01> !pastebin | Kaemon12433
[16:00] <Kaemon12433> oops....
[16:00] <Kaemon12433> brb
[16:00] <user_> penthief: in the player popwindow goto preferences and switch from realplayer to windows stream
[16:00] <cirkit> Kaemon12433: why aren't you installing Java from synaptic?
[16:00] <Kaemon12433> oh...
[16:00] <Kaemon12433> i did add remove
[16:00] <Kaemon12433> BRB
[16:00] <cirkit> Kaemon12433: since you installed it like that, you'd have to make a symlink for the java plugin to your firefox plugin's directory
[16:01] <cirkit> heh, weird
[16:01] <cirkit> I said paste the output on pastebin at least a couple of times
[16:01] <cirkit> still pasted in the channel
[16:01] <penthief> user_: Tells me I don't have any compatible plugins, but I did 10 minutes ago on firefox 2.
[16:02] <user_> penthief: ok, click on "launch in seperate player" this will then query for needed codecs in case they are missing
[16:03] <solexious> [Q] Will i run in to trouble running 2 or more identical pci cards (sata raid) or can i work with each individually?
[16:03] <SeaPhor> i cant remember the cmd for configuring the xorg.conf,,, its not   $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg  all that does is backup the xorg... anyone remember for me?
[16:04] <goodsens1> Hi, is there any way to install ubuntu using raid 0?(another example, cuz fakeraid is a little confuse)
[16:04] <penthief> user_: Doesn't know what to do with a ram file... Is there a firefox plugin which will work?
[16:04] <user_> penthief: i had problems with it, thats why i recommended wtiching to windows media: in the player window goto "preferences" and switch
[16:06] <penthief> user_: It doesn't give me any choices, as I don't have any plugins (apparently).
[16:06] <user_> penthief: in the help its stated though that not all of the programs are available in windows media format. you need to crosscheck with a different stream
[16:06] <user_> penthief: bbc world service has both
[16:07] <ompaul> wols, pm?
[16:09] <idefine> how can one customize the menu bar like so: http://www.alazanto.org/wrvisuals/screenshots/070811.png so that the application men is part of gnome-panel?
[16:09] <idefine> application menu*
[16:10] <Kaemon12433> back....sry bout earlier
[16:10] <dewman> idefine, install avant window manager
[16:10] <Kaemon12433> so do i need to uninstall java from add/remove? and then REinstall it using synaptic??
[16:10] <etnoy> I'm trying to decode a "double-encoded utf8 file" that I have downloaded, using convmv, without luck
[16:10] <etnoy> any ideas?
[16:10] <idefine> dewman: cool, thanks, what is the default window manager with ubuntu?
[16:11] <etnoy> it's like a unicode file displayed in on a latin1 system
[16:11] <Kaemon12433> any help here?
[16:11] <nbl3> so is there an answer to how to add more data to a dvdRW
[16:11] <etnoy> but the wrongly coded characters are saved on the utf8 filesystem
[16:11] <dewman> actually its avant window navigator not manager
[16:11] <etnoy> the files say "BjÃ¶rkskÃ¤r" when they should say "Björkskär"
[16:11] <sonjica> da li neko zna srpski
[16:12] <etnoy> the underlying system is utf8
[16:12] <bazhang> idefine, you mean the bit at the top? that is not awn
[16:12] <sonjica> nekmi se pridruzi
[16:12] <idefine> bazhang: yes, that bit, what is that?
[16:12] <Kaemon12433> do i remove java using SYNAPTIC? and then reinstall it using SYNAPTIC?
[16:12] <bazhang> idefine, not sure; a peek at gnome-look may be in order :)
[16:13] <hendrixski> Help.  I just did a stupid thing.  I was working on an Inkscape diagram without saving it, I was almost done and IT CRASHED.  It said backups are saved to "New File .something.something"  but no directory was given.  How do I recover?
[16:13] <penthief> Kaemon12433: I got through some trouble with Java... whats the problem?
[16:13] <Kaemon12433> its installed
[16:13] <hendrixski> I spent like an hour on that, and I need that diagram for work
[16:13] <Kaemon12433> just not detected on firefox 3
[16:13] <DRebellion> hendrixski, use the 'find' command
[16:14] <DRebellion> hendrixski, man find <--- for more info
[16:14] <hendrixski> DRebellion, on the whole file system? that's going to take forever isn't it?
[16:14] <DRebellion> hendrixski, *shrug*
[16:14] <dewman> isn't the application menu at the top part of the default ubuntu install?
[16:14] <Kaemon12433> so what do i do?>
[16:14] <DRebellion> dewman, top left, yes
[16:15] <user_> Kaemon12433: you might try to go to a website with requires java and then install using the firefox plugin finder
[16:15] <DRebellion> hendrixski, or, you could run: sudo updatedb && locate partoffilename
[16:15] <dewman> thats what I thought, which is why I assumed he meant the bottom, I shouldn't assume
[16:15] <Kaemon12433> ok
[16:15] <Kaemon12433> but firefox cant find the plugin required!
[16:15] <Kaemon12433> its stupid.
[16:15] <hendrixski> DRebellion, ah, right.  I've been meaning to get the updatedb thing so I can find files on the system
[16:16] <hendrixski> DRebellion, I'll do that
[16:16] <hendrixski> thanks
[16:16] <user__> q
[16:16] <user_> Kaemon12433: move /home/$user/.mozilla to a secure place and restart firefox. this gives you a fresh start somehow
[16:16] <Kaemon12433> ok
[16:16] <cypher1> Kaemon12433, is java is shown in about:plugins in firefox  ?
[16:16] <koto> does someone know where to get ubuntu-modules-2.6.26 for intrepid? they are missing on my system :(
[16:16] <Kaemon12433> no
[16:17] <user__> hello , i'm new use Ubuntu
[16:17] <user_> koto: ubuntu+1 for intrepid
[16:17] <Kaemon12433> its not
[16:17] <user__> please help me, thank
[16:17] <Jack_Sparrow> bbl  need to feed the heron.. seriously.. in my front yard
[16:17] <user_> !ask | user__
[16:17] <koto> user_: thanks!
[16:17] <steffen_> hi
[16:18] <cypher1> Kaemon12433, what does java -version in a terminal show ?
[16:18] <Kaemon12433> hold on
[16:18] <user__> Xin cho hỏi có ai là người VN không vậy ?
[16:19] <Kaemon12433> !pastebin java version "1.6.0"
[16:19] <Kaemon12433> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b09)
[16:19] <Kaemon12433> OpenJDK Client VM (build 1.6.0-b09, mixed mode, sharing)
[16:19] <user_> !cn | user__
[16:20] <g[r]eek> Hi I need sendmail
[16:20] <g[r]eek> For PHP to be able to send emails using mail() function
[16:20] <bazhang> that is vietnamese
[16:20] <g[r]eek> How do I set this p on my server
[16:20] <user_> g[r]eek: why, sendmail is "bad"
[16:20] <Kaemon12433> so what do i do???
[16:21] <killemall> how can i update my ubuntu 8.04 installation to 2.6.24.19 without internet at that machine? i went to packages.ubuntu.com and found 2.6.24.18.deb but i cant find 19
[16:21] <hendrixski> DRebellion, it's in the home folder.  Man, I nearly had a heart-attack
[16:21] <g[r]eek> user_, it's what PHP expects to use. It is not for bulk emailing or anything.
[16:21] <g[r]eek> user_, simply a submission form that fires off an email
[16:21] <DRebellion> hendrixski, okey
[16:21] <user_> g[r]eek: apt-cache search sendmail
[16:22] <cypher1> Kaemon12433, which is the package name you had installed for Java ?
[16:22] <user_> bazhang: ok, no channel for that lang yet
[16:22] <Kaemon12433> ummm
[16:22] <Kaemon12433> *sigh* i'll just remove the whole stupid thing..
[16:22] <Kaemon12433> and reinstall it using the synaptic thingy
[16:23] <killemall> or do you know where ican download a ubuntu 8.04.1 desktop iso?
[16:24] <Flannel> killemall: 8.04.1 isn't out yet
[16:24] <g[r]eek> user_, a whole list of programs are displayed, sendmail is one of them. do I just apt-get install sendmail?
[16:24] <Kaemon12433> i'm going to try and get some help elsewhere....
[16:24] <bazhang> killemall, wont be out for a few more days yet
[16:25] <killemall> my network card wont work with ubuntu 8.04 until im using at least 2.6.24.19 but i cant find it.  D945GCLF/atom board
[16:25] <halfSource> if i want to use a java applet i need a jvm right?
[16:26] <user_> g[r]eek: y
[16:26] <user_> halfSource: y
[16:26] <g[r]eek> user_, thanks for help
[16:26] <bazhang> killemall, hardy uses the 2.6.24-19 atm
[16:26] <halfSource> user_: y what?
[16:26] <user_> g[r]eek: your welcome, tell your friends about ubuntu
[16:27] <user_> halfSource: y == yes
[16:27] <DRebellion> halfSource, user_ is too lazy to add an e and an s
[16:27] <halfSource> oh, gotcha
[16:27] <halfSource> any suggestions
[16:27] <killemall> i have 8.04 desktop iso, but its .16 so i found a .18 deb and installed it, but i need to find .19 do you know where i can find it?
[16:28] <DRebellion> !linux-generic
[16:28] <DRebellion> !info linux-generic
[16:28] <bazhang> killemall, if you just keep updating it will take you to 2.6.24-19
[16:29] <slugz_> i have a folder in thrash can  that's not deleting, is there a way to force delete
[16:29] <killemall> the machine in question doesnt have net.  im looking to download the 2.6.24-19 with the computer im on now, then transfer via usb stick
[16:29] <Jeffster> 897987654654213215491949737
[16:29] <bazhang> killemall, you can wait until sometime next week, or get a nightly build
[16:29] <WalloO> slugz_, use sudo rm filename
[16:29] <killemall> nightly build as in iso?
[16:30] <bazhang> killemall, aye
[16:30] <killemall> ooh ,do tell!
[16:30] <magnetron> killemall: the machine in question will need a lot of different packages with complex dependecies, especially if you have any proprietary drivers installed.
[16:30] <slugz_> WalloO, don't i have to be in trash can directory?
[16:31] <g[r]eek> user_, I'm from Cape Town, South Africa, Ubuntu's home. We all use it here :D
[16:31] <user_> g[r]eek: great :-)
[16:31] <g[r]eek> M$ is slowly losing market share ;-)
[16:32] <WalloO> slugz_, yes, for sure, or provide the full path to your file as filename
[16:32] <slugz_> how do I cd into that dicrectory?
[16:32] <cypher1> does firefox comes bundled with flash ?
[16:32] <_Lucretia__> my scanner no longer works. I've downloaded the firmware and set up the config file, but it still says no devices available from xsane and fails using the command line. is there still a problem with libusb ?
[16:32] <bazhang> cypher1, no
[16:32] <WalloO> I love people using "M$"....
[16:32] <cirkit> slugz_: try  sudo rm /home/ben/.local/share/Trash/ followed by the file name you are trying to delete
[16:33] <cirkit> or whatever your username is
[16:33] <cypher1> bazhang, ok thanks
[16:33] <bazhang> np
[16:33] <BluntObject> g[r]eek: Not until we get laptops and PC pre-loaded with Ubuntu in all electronics stores will the real erosion of M$ Windows begin
[16:33] <bazhang> !ot
[16:33] <g[r]eek> BluntObject, isn't Dell providing laptops with pre-installed Ubutnu?
[16:34] <killemall> 8.04.1 is coming out july 1st? is this right?
[16:34] <g[r]eek> It's only a matter of time I guess
[16:34] <BluntObject> Only purchased directly. I said "stores"
[16:34] <BluntObject> Consumers need real choice!
[16:34] <g[r]eek> True that
[16:35] <slugz_> thakns cirkit it was in .local/share/Trash/files
[16:35] <g[r]eek> Cheers fellas
[16:35] <cirkit> slugz_: cool :)
[16:36] <piju> i got problem, my wireless not detected after updates
[16:36] <halfSource> how do i get applets to work in firefox
[16:36] <Lectus> Hello! How can I install a webcam (VIMICRO USB PC CAMERA (ZC0301PLH)) on Ubuntu 8.04? Thanks
[16:36] <sudobash> hey was that a kernel upgrade that was released yesterday?
[16:37] <DRebellion> !webcam | Lectus
[16:37] <mib_6w29wvkc> Piju do you dualboot ??
[16:38] <piju> mib_6w29wvkc, no
[16:38] <piju> im using hardy amd64 on my intel core 2 duo
[16:38] <musa22> pls how can i share files between two systems runnin hardy which are on the same network?
[16:38] <DRebellion> !samba | musa22
[16:39] <DRebellion> musa22, Use that (its just as good linux <--->
[16:39] <DRebellion> musa22, Use that (its just as good linux <---> linux
[16:39] <halfSource> how do i get applets to work in firefox
[16:39] <jedimind> what do you guys recommend for an ftp daemon in ubuntu ?
[16:40] <cirkit> jedimind: vsftpd
[16:40] <the_eraser> hi is there a ubnutu  equivalent to windows gspot?
[16:40] <jedimind> cirkit: any particular raesons?
[16:40] <jedimind> reasons too
[16:40] <musa22> thanks
[16:41] <dewman> what is gspot the_eraser ?
[16:41] <cirkit> jedimind: well the name says it all, VSFTPD = Very Secure File Transfer Daemon
[16:41] <digital00> I have to create a new partition because i have to install windows...what should I do? should I use fdisk?
[16:41] <the_eraser> dewman: its a program that tells you what codec a certain media file is using.
[16:41] <the_eraser> *or codecs
[16:42] <DRebellion> the_eraser, try the 'file' command
[16:42] <Kelen> Is there any suggestion for downloads application?
[16:42] <sudobash> im getting problems with the kernel upgrade... multiple burning applications freeze and firefox takes up 760 mb ram and 55 percent cpu.... seems its messing with memory of something?
[16:42] <DRebellion> Kelen, wget?
[16:42] <the_eraser> ok DRebellion
[16:42] <DRebellion> the_eraser, eg. file unknownfile.random
[16:42] <Kelen> DRebellion: Yeah,,
[16:42] <magnetron> cirkit, jedimind: if you want a SECURE file hosting solution, don't use FTP at all. SSH/SFTP/SCP is a much safer and modern solution.
[16:42] <SimplySeth> umm what is up with the weirdness with mv .. it wont let me rename file.wav to file.WAV 'cause it says they are the same ?
[16:42] <halfSource> how do u get applets to work in firefox??
[16:42] <jedimind> magnetron: no i was just looking for an ftp daemon
[16:43] <user_> halfSource: have you java up and running in firefox
[16:43] <Lectus> Hello! I type lsusb at the console and Ubuntu seems to recognize my webcam as "Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0ac8:301b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. ZC0301 WebCam". But when I try camorama or cheese for testing it I just see blank screen. Any idea what's going on here?
[16:43] <digital00> I have to create a new partition because i have to install windows...what should I do? should I use fdisk?
[16:44] <halfSource> user_: what do u mean, prolly not
[16:44] <zoiks> arg... hardy is driving me nuts
[16:44] <sudobash> me also
[16:44] <sudobash> maybe there is a beta version out...
[16:44] <halfSource> user_: i think i got it
[16:44] <r_a_f> ﻿digital00: first backup your /home/youraccount
[16:44] <DRebellion> digital00, fdisk or gparted
[16:44] <cirkit> magnetron: yup I know ... I'd personally just stick with scp
[16:44] <donak> digital00, Windows is going to expect to install on "C:" i.e. /hda1
[16:44] <Lectus> Easycam2 also recognizes the webcam, but fails installing it.
[16:45] <zoiks> I cannot get samba working. When I try and access a file hosted on hardy from another hardy or xp machine it says it cant access it
[16:45] <donak> if you already have something installed on it, you might have to do a total reinstall ...
[16:45] <sudobash> zoiks who owns the file?
[16:45] <user_> halfSource: try this: http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp?detect=jre&try=1
[16:45] <Kelen> DRebellion: i closed terminal window while the downloads is not finish with wget. How to continue the downloads when i started terminal window
[16:45] <digital00> DRebellion: gparted doesnt allow me to touch my partitions...each partition has got an image of keys near
[16:45] <InsomniaCity`> can anyone recommend some documentation on setting up ubuntu with encrypted home directories?
[16:45] <cirkit> digital00: you can't partition on a mounted filesystem
[16:46] <zoiks> sudobash: its not even individual files. I click on the shared folder, it asks for password, but then says cannot mount the shared folder
[16:46] <digital00> cirkit: how can i umount it?
[16:46] <sudobash> lol
[16:46] <piju> what is disadvantage and advatages of using 64bit ubuntu ?
[16:46] <digital00> cirkit: it doesnt allow me to umount /dev/sda1...because his mount is /
[16:46] <sudobash> piju you can have 4 gb ram
[16:46] <sudobash> instead of 3.5
[16:46] <piju> is it 64bit will miss something ?
[16:46] <zoiks> piju: not as much works with 64bit
[16:47] <piju> zoiks, why ?
[16:47] <sudobash> 64 bit doesnt have as much support
[16:47] <piju> giveme ur explanation
[16:47] <cirkit> digital00: sudo umount /dev/partitionname
[16:47] <sudobash> lmao @ piju who do you think we are developers?
[16:47] <piju> what about drivers ?
[16:47] <zoiks> piju: things like flash and codec support are not up to scratch
[16:47] <zoiks> download the live cd and give it a shot
[16:47] <sudobash> not as many people use 64 bit.......
[16:48] <cirkit> digital00: the best thing to do is boot off a live cd and run gparted from that
[16:48] <sudobash> 32 bit is more supported because more people use it and submit bug reports im sure
[16:48] <Kelen> Any suggestion for this problem?
[16:48] <piju> sudobash, are u using 32bit on 64bit capable cpu ?
[16:48] <euxidi1> having trouble getting resolution higher to 640x480 on my nvidia geoforcefx 5200 card
[16:48] <sudobash> 64 bit CPU 32 bit OS
[16:48] <ads_> is there a way i can crop my desktop my second display is displaying slightly too large...
[16:48] <Kelen> No
[16:48] <sudobash> AMD 64 X2 4200+ (2GHZ) running at 2.6 GHZ
[16:49] <cirkit> digital00: if the current partitions are ext3 file system then I believe you won't be able to resize the partition of any way
[16:49] <digital00> cirkit: gparted not..but fdisk allows me to modify my partitions...i just want to resize the only one i have and use the unallocated space to create a new partition..is it possible?
[16:49] <piju> sudobash, is there something 64bit regret ?
[16:49] <legend2440> Kelen: open terminal in same folder and restart wget  should resume
[16:49] <sudobash> ads you used to be able to do that in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:49] <piju> sudobash, like drivers ?
[16:49] <sudobash> but it has changed i think
[16:49] <user_> Kelen: wget --continue , see man wget
[16:49] <cirkit> digital00: what file system is that partition already using?
[16:49] <sudobash> i dont need 64 bit... i only have a GB of DDR2
[16:49] <digital00> cirkit: ext3
[16:50] <euxidi1> ﻿having trouble getting resolution higher to 640x480 on my nvidia geoforcefx 5200 card
[16:50] <ads_> sudobash: thanks maybe something i can look up..
[16:50] <cirkit> digital00: yeah ext3 won't let you do that
[16:50] <user_> legend2440: wget vanilla will start a new download to $file.1 i believe
[16:50] <digital00> cirkit: why? so how can i do?
[16:50] <cirkit> digital00: its gonna want you to re-format the partition
[16:50] <Kelen> user_: i was tried this way, but it is not worked ..
[16:51] <zoiks> so yeah, anyone have any ideas on why samba wont let me access folders?
[16:51] <cirkit> digital00: backup the data you need off that partition and re-run fdisk to format that partition as a whole, and then use remainding space for what you were aiming at
[16:51] <legend2440> user_  yes your right   --continue is needed
[16:51] <euxidi1> ﻿having trouble getting resolution higher to 640x480 on my nvidia geoforcefx 5200 card???????
[16:52] <user_> Kelen: whats the download URL (if you want to share)?
[16:53] <Ziroday> how would I schedule my computer to shut down in an hour?
[16:53] <cirkit> euxidi1: please make sure you have properly installed the correct nvidia drivers for your fx5200 first.
[16:54] <Kelen> user_: Of course,   here the link ;
[16:54] <Kelen> http://www.zgtywdw.cn/UpLoadFile/Music/1/2008060613005481397.mp3
[16:54] <dewman> Ziroday, sudo shutdown -h +60
[16:54] <Ziroday> dewman: thanks
[16:55] <jedimind> say i have a service like an ftpd, how would i start it without having to leave the terminal open ?
[16:55] <jedimind> cuz right now i run it, and it just stays there
[16:55] <dewman> Ziroday, check 'man shutdown' for more options
[16:55] <aguitel> how can change splash theme?
[16:55] <Ziroday> dewman: am doing so now :)
[16:55] <cirkit> jedimind: /etc/init.d/ftpd start
[16:55] <cirkit> and close the terminal
[16:55] <SimplySeth> okay .. what in the world is up with not being able to capitalize extensions ?
[16:55] <Jane_ux> hi every1
[16:56] <nickrud> jedimind do   ftpd & , then type disown
[16:56] <user_> Kelen: works here: first i did: wget URL_you-gave-us      then wget --continue URL_you-gave-us
[16:56] <Onebeer> are there really 1301 nicks in this channel? omg
[16:56] <jedimind> cirkit: that worked beautifully thanks
[16:56] <Jane_ux> I want to restore my user home folder when the computer reboots
[16:56] <cirkit> jedimind: np ;)
[16:56] <Jane_ux> i created the following script
[16:56] <spanther> Onebeer, most are idling hehe :)
[16:56] <Jane_ux> #!/bin/sh # Restore script cd /home tar xvfz /home/restore_guest.tar.gz
[16:56] <Onebeer> spanther: thank God for that..lol
[16:56] <spanther> Onebeer, lol ^^
[16:56] <cirkit> euxidi1: please don't message me in private.
[16:56] <Jane_ux> and stored in /etc/int.d
[16:56] <cirkit> talk in here
[16:56] <jedimind> cirkit: im guessing init.d jus thas symlinks to all potential services ?
[16:57] <Jane_ux> but it doesnt work
[16:57] <Jane_ux> any idea??
[16:57] <nickrud> Jane_ux you would need to link that script into /etc/rc2.d
[16:57] <cirkit> jedimind: yeah basically
[16:57] <InsomniaCity`> can the Ubuntu installer resize NTFS?
[16:57] <spanther> Jane_ux, you mean /etc/init.d ?
[16:57] <Onebeer> spanther: dunno how I managed without usercount.pl in my irssi before..I like that in my statusbar
[16:57] <SimplySeth> okay this is crazy .. never in my life have I messed with a unix system that doesn't let me rename files
[16:57] <euxidi1> ok
[16:57] <user_> InsomniaCity`: yes
[16:58] <InsomniaCity`> user_: ok. didn't want it to just truncate it, hehe
[16:58] <spanther> Onebeer, you use irssi? well :>
[16:58] <euxidi1> i've used envyng
[16:58] <Jane_ux> nickud: how can i do that??
[16:58] <nickrud> Jane such as  sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/<script> /etc/rc2.d/S80<script>
[16:58] <cirkit> SimplySeth: do you have the appropriate permissions on those files?
[16:58] <Jane_ux> ok i ll try that
[16:58] <the_eraser> anyone know a way to convert aac-lc to mp3 ? i've tried gnormalizer but it was messy to compile.
[16:58] <Onebeer> spanther: yes, I like it.. tried using mirc in wine yesterday..didn't like going back to that
[16:58] <MOzartstaedter> hey guy, i have an external hard drive with NTFS, this problem: http://img399.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bildschirmfotorp9.png anyone an idea what to do?
[16:58] <Jane_ux> and nick, if i want the script to be run when the user login instead of rebooting??
[16:59] <spanther> Onebeer, why mIRC sure its slim and fast but dont use it in wine :) better go get xchat then ^^
[16:59] <AJC_Z0> the_eraser: sox is a sound converter multitool which might help
[16:59] <Kelen> user_: Oh, but this way must remember the URL, How do i do if i forget the URL of the downloads?
[16:59] <Onebeer> spanther: I didn't like the colors in xchat and I couldn't get them right..maybe I just prefer a non-gui irc client is all..I dunno
[16:59] <nickrud> Jane_ux that is much more problematic. Not sure where you would put that. user login usually depends on the dir already existing
[16:59] <cirkit> MOzartstaedter: try to mount it from a terminal
[17:00] <AJC_Z0> Jane_ux: Init scripts are run as root, so in it use "su user -c 'command arg1 arg2'"
[17:00] <spanther> Onebeer, you can change every color Oo
[17:00] <InsomniaCity`> erm, the installer won't let me create new partitions.
[17:00] <InsomniaCity`> Is this normal?
[17:00] <WalloO> MOzartstaedter, you didn't umount your drive correctely when you was on windows. the best way is to start windows with the disk connected, then umount it correctely, and it will work. this is a protection measure to avoid data loss
[17:00] <MOzartstaedter> cirkit: how? sudo mount ... ???
[17:00] <spanther> Onebeer, you can change colors + themes completely :)
[17:00] <piway> I Need To update the firefox how can i do that?
[17:00] <user_> Kelen: your terminal has a history built in. when you reopen the terminal, you can hit "up" on the arrow keys and it will remember the commands and thus the url you gave it
[17:00] <MOzartstaedter> WalloO: ahh ok thx =)
[17:01] <Onebeer> spanther: yeah, I'll play around with xchat again..I used to use it years ago before switching to irssi
[17:01] <spanther> piway, ubuntu hardy includes the newest firefox 3 final
[17:01] <the_eraser> AJC_Z0: yep thx
[17:01] <nickrud> piway firefox gets updated automatically as soon as the latest version hits the repositories
[17:01] <cirkit> MOzartstaedter: make sure ntfs-3g is installed first then do "mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media
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[17:01] <spanther> Onebeer, if thats years ago you will be wondered cause in years can be developed alot :)
[17:01] <Onebeer> spanther: and with my bnc running i can use more than 1 irc client at the same time..heh
[17:01] <nickrud> piway if you're not getting it, you don't have the right repo enabled. See the following:
[17:01] <spanther> piway, nah its final now look topic :)
[17:01] <nickrud> !hardysources | piway
[17:02] <spanther> piway, just sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and you have it hehe
[17:02] <piway> ok
[17:02] <Bax_> how do I configure a joystick's controls to replace that of a mouse?  ubuntu fiesty
[17:02] <spanther> but sudo apt-get update before of that :)
[17:02] <SimplySeth> cirkit: soul_chicken.wav not renamed: soul_chicken.WAV already exists
[17:02] <Onebeer> spanther: well, I've been using linux since Red Hat 6.1 days..heh
[17:03] <spanther> Onebeer, i use linux since suse 9 or ubuntu 6 and yeah debian 3.1   :)
[17:03] <Onebeer> :)
[17:03] <cirkit> SimplySeth: why do you need to caps the extension?
[17:03] <Kelen> user_: Yeah,, but i think this is not a best way, if i have a long time to continue the downloads, terminal must be forget the URL of the downloads.
[17:04] <incorrect> how can i activate my second display?
[17:04] <SimplySeth> cirkit: my sampler might require it :-/
[17:04] <dewman> Kelen, try aria
[17:04] <MOzartstaedter> cirkit: the terminal told me to type: mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media -o force     is that dangerous (loosing data or something??)
[17:04] <Carpe|Diem> what is the best gui for nmap in ubuntu 80.4?
[17:04] <Onebeer> yeah, I used SUSE as well spanther .. I think it was SUSE 8 something I bought at a bookstore
[17:04] <nickrud> Carpe|Diem nmapfe
[17:05] <Carpe|Diem> ok nickrud
[17:05] <dewman> Carpe|Diem,  zenmap
[17:05] <MOzartstaedter> cirkit: because if it is not safe, i only reboot with win and remove the hardware safetly
[17:05] <Kelen> dewman: hi dude, what is aria? is a option of wget?
[17:05] <Carpe|Diem> dewman, zenmap?
[17:05] <sudobash> just use nmap like they do in the matrix... console
[17:05] <nickrud> Carpe|Diem sorry, nmapfe doesn't exist in hardy !??
[17:05] <Carpe|Diem> np nickrud
[17:05] <matt444> what is best to format my USB flash drive in so that it's useable in all different OSes (Linux, Mac, Windows)?
[17:05] <cirkit> MOzartstaedter: you don't wanna take a chance at corrupting the file system, try a reboot first.
[17:05] <Onebeer> Ubuntu is nice I was using gentoo before that and wanted to try out this how-to for mounting uncompressed rars..that I couldn't get working in gentoo
[17:05] <dewman> Kelen, aria is a download manager
[17:05] <Odd-rationale> matt444: vfat
[17:05] <Jane_ux> heyyy nick when i restarted it says permission denied
[17:05] <MOzartstaedter> cirkit: ok thx a lot =)
[17:05] <cirkit> =)
[17:05] <piway> Firefox 3. 0 Final is now in Hardy i need it
[17:05] <dewman> Carpe|Diem, yes zenmap
[17:06] <InsomniaCity`> Hi! I'm installing Hardy Heron, but the new partition button is greyed out in the installer...
[17:06] <InsomniaCity`> is this normal?
[17:06] <matt444> Odd-rationale:  gparted doesn't have a "vfat" partion.  they do have fat16 and fat32, which do i use?
[17:06] <Tonehog> I'm using FF3 in Hardy now.
[17:06] <spanther> Onebeer, well i tried gentoo once but its not my taste compiling everything and that hehe :) i want a ready computer with ready for use packages
[17:06] <Carpe|Diem> dewman, i had zenmap before but it is missing components...such as discovery etc? why is that?
[17:06] <Onebeer> fat32 is the same as vfat
[17:06] <nickrud> matt444 fat16 is good for small devices, 32 for larger. Both are readable by most anything
[17:07] <InsomniaCity`> matt444: vfat is run-time, partitions differentiate between 16 and 32 :)
[17:07] <Tonehog> Matt444: fat32 is vfat.
[17:07] <dewman> dunno, I don't use it, I just happen to see it in synaptic
[17:07] <Odd-rationale> matt444: fat32's file size limit is larger than fat16
[17:07] <Jane_ux> nickud: its about the script to restore the home folder
[17:07] <jeremiahb> Hello. Does anyone know how I can set up GDM for remote use only? (I'm using it for XDMCP; I'm aware of the security issues.) I have XDMCP set up but GDM isn't starting because the server has no graphical capability.
[17:07] <Jane_ux> nickud: in the boot screen says permission denied
[17:07] <nickrud> Jane_ux does it say why?
[17:07] <Jane_ux> nickud: nop
[17:08] <Onebeer> spanther: was a long time before I wanted to install another distro after gentoo
[17:08] <nickrud> Jane_ux and why do you want to untar, anyway?
[17:08] <Eegah1> I can't set my DNS servers.  Anyone know anything?
[17:08] <Tonehog> Jeremiahb: the server shouldn't have to run in graphical mode to support a remote X session. The X server runs locally, and the apps are the clients.
[17:08] <Tonehog> *apps = remote apps.
[17:09] <Jane_ux> nickud: because i compressed the default home folder as tar
[17:09] <dewman> Carpe|Diem,  did you use zenmap as sudo?
[17:09] <Carpe|Diem> dewman, yes
[17:09] <Eegah1> If I set my DNS servers in the network dialogue, it doesn't work.  And if I reopen the dialogue, it doesn't remember what I told it.
[17:09] <MNZ> hi. I can't get direct rendering to work. the proper driver is loaded and it even says direct rendering is enabled but then glxinfo says it's not and crashes with a segfault
[17:09] <Hexxeh> Hello
[17:09] <Leefmc> Grrr. Damn Rhythmbox, it keeps doubling up some songs in my list. I can't quite figure out when its doing it, or why.
[17:09] <MNZ> moreover, the segfault is in ld-linux.so.2 .........
[17:10] <jeremiahb> Well, put it this way: when I boot, I get a message saying that GDM did not start because a local X server couldn't be started.
[17:10] <Tonehog> Leefmc: I had that problem.
[17:10] <Leefmc> Tonehog: Did you fix it? Or figure out whats causing it?
[17:10] <Hexxeh> I've just installed Ubuntu 7.10 on my PS3, and done apt-get update, then tried to apt-get install apache2, but the install failed. This is on the fresh install. apt said that there were unmet dependancies, namely apache2-mpm-worker and apache2-mpm-prefork and apache2-mpm-event.
[17:10] <Tonehog> Leefmc: what you have is selected audio file in Nautilus that's previewing the file.
[17:10] <user_> Eegah1: do you press enter after you entered the digits? (i found that to be a minor usability glitch)
[17:10] <nickrud> Jane_ux, your tar, does it untar things just like you expect by hand?
[17:10] <MNZ> also glxinfo is trying to open i915_dri.so but I'm using i810 driver
[17:11] <Leefmc> Tonehog: Well thats the odd thing, i never view my files in Naut
[17:11] <spanther> Onebeer, how could you live with compiling every little piece all the time? ^^
[17:11] <dewman> Carpe|Diem, not sure, maybe nmapfe is a better option for you
[17:11] <Leefmc> Tonehog: No point really, i only ever touch my music from Rhythmbox
[17:11] <Tonehog> Leefmc: how are you playing the files?
[17:11] <Carpe|Diem> dewman, ok i'll try and find it...thanks:)
[17:11] <Leefmc> Tonehog: Double clicking them in Rhythmbox
[17:11] <Jane_ux> nickud:yes it does
[17:12] <the_eraser> hi what ubuntu package do i need to encode mp3s?
[17:12] <Hexxeh> the_eraser: lame, I believe
[17:12] <dewman> lame
[17:12] <the_eraser> oki
[17:12] <Leefmc> the_eraser: I'm guessing LAME
[17:12] <the_eraser> ty
[17:12] <Leefmc> damn.
[17:12] <Leefmc> 3rd place.
[17:12] <nickrud> Jane_ux if you run /etc/rc2S80<name> , does that work properly?
[17:12] <Hexxeh> can somebody take a look at my above question please?
[17:12] <Tonehog> Leefmc: I got tired of all that crazyness and installed kubuntu with amarok instead. I like amarok much more.
[17:12] <nickrud> Jane_ux /etc/rc2.d/S80<name>, that is
[17:12] <Onebeer> spanther: I still like compiling from source over binaries..heh
[17:13] <Hexxeh> i'm thinking it might be due to the fact that i'm running on ppc64, hardly a common setup I'd have thought
[17:13] <Jane_ux> nickrud: yes not problems with that
[17:13] <user_> the_eraser: try program gogo
[17:13] <Leefmc> Tonehog: I do too, but Gnome and Amarok have issues on my system, and im not really feeling like installing a new desktop for now
[17:13] <Tonehog> Leefmc: what issues? audio driver?
[17:13] <Leefmc> Tonehog: Its a bit of a pain on my laptop heh, install issues for ubuntu
[17:13] <hwilde> why is my monitor repeatedly fading out like a laptop into power saver mode??
[17:13] <Leefmc> Tonehog: No CD Drive
[17:13] <sudobash> hexxeh go into synaptic and add 3rd party repos
[17:13] <sudobash> and update
[17:14] <Jane_ux> nickrud: the permission of the script is set as root-read and write
[17:14] <Eegah1> I hate to reiterate, but... no one has any ideas why my Network dialogue doesn't do anything, or any console commands that might help?
[17:14] <Leefmc> Tonehog: And i know you dont need the drive, it can all be done via console, but still. :)
[17:14] <hwilde> why is my monitor repeatedly fading out like a laptop into power saver mode??
[17:14] <spanther> Onebeer, well i dont like it that much since (as example apt-get) you can have one package which includes everything (.deb package) and then you can easily remove it and replace it with a newer version so no hassle with cleaning up your drive and removing not needed anymore files or symlinks :)
[17:14] <nickrud> Jane_ux is it set root execute?
[17:14] <Hexxeh> sudobash: i'm not using a gui, SSHing over to the box, it's headless
[17:14] <Tonehog> Hwilde: blank screen saver.
[17:14] <PathagenX> Processing triggers for libc6 ...
[17:14] <PathagenX> ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[17:14] <PathagenX> Bus error (core dumped)
[17:14] <hwilde> why is my monitor repeatedly fading out like a laptop into power saver mode??  it doesn't recognize mouse input to wakeup but if I hit the keyboard it brightens back up
[17:14] <sudobash> lol oh
[17:14] <Hexxeh> sudobash: got the specific repo urls handy?
[17:15] <sudobash> one sec
[17:15] <hwilde> Tonehog, while I'm using it tho?
[17:15] <Hexxeh> cheers
[17:15] <Jane_ux> nickrud: nope
[17:15] <Tonehog> Leefmc: I'm not sure what kind of problems you're having. Are you having issues with playing audio files, or audio from CD?
[17:15] <nickrud> Jane_ux there you go :)
[17:15] <Jane_ux> nickrud: i ll ad execution
[17:15] <netsrot> shouldn't firefox3 be in 8.04? my ff still looks like the old one, how should I upgrade? I guess it must be a beta saying it's 3.0?
[17:15] <nickrud> Jane_ux good troubleshooting ;)
[17:15] <Onebeer> spanther: I got other things I'm interested in at the moment so yeah..I see your point..heh
[17:15] <Jane_ux> nickrud: thanks very much
[17:15] <Carpe|Diem> dewman, nickrud: thank you both, nmapfe is working great
[17:16] <Sergeant_Pony> is there any way to show all 4 desktops on 1 screen?
[17:16] <Leefmc> Tonehog: Nono, im just saying i dont feel like tinkering with big distro stuff (like the desktop) at the moment, because a clean install (if needed) is not easy. So i'd rather just leave my system as is for now heh
[17:16] <dewman> cool Carpe|Diem
[17:16] <nickrud> Carpe|Diem where'd you pull nmapfe from?
[17:16] <Leefmc> Tonehog: Eventually i need to format, so i can partition /home
[17:16] <user_> netsrot: run update manager and you'll get the latest if you havent got it already
[17:16] <Carpe|Diem> here nickrud:http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/NmapFE-Download-14665.html
[17:16] <Tonehog> Leefmc: what issues are you having with amarok?
[17:16] <Carpe|Diem> nickrud, i converted the package with alien
[17:16] <Leefmc> Tonehog: Don't remember, but it waslike 5 of them and i finally said forget it :)
[17:16] <nickrud> Carpe|Diem thanks, I need that one. Don't use it often, but when I do ... echh rpm. I'll probably compile it :)
[17:16] <spanther> Onebeer, its just that i think modular install systems are cleaner cause they completely replace afterwards old to new without leaving trash ^^ (which you get when compiling by hand and later you have to delete it manually too)
[17:17] <Carpe|Diem> ok nickrud :) have fun
[17:17] <RAdam1> how can I find out what package a kernel module belongs to?
[17:17] <Eegah1> So, none of you have any notion how to fix a DNS problem where the Network dialogue accepts new addresses, but forgets them and does not apply them in new dialogues.
[17:17] <Tonehog> Leefmc: you might want to make sure rhythmbox is using the right audio driver.
[17:17] <Leefmc> Tonehog: Why would that affect the library thing?
[17:18] <netsrot> user_: I have and it haven't updated ff since a week before ff3 release.
[17:18] <Tonehog> Leefmc: well, you did mention that your files are playing double.
[17:18] <gopp> hi how do I get wifi via the cli in ubuntu I tryed iwconfig wlan0 up
[17:18] <hwilde> why is my monitor repeatedly fading out like a laptop into power saver mode??  it doesn't recognize mouse input to wakeup but if I hit the keyboard it brightens back up
[17:18] <Tonehog> Leefmc: ...or are you getting duplicate entries in your audio library?
[17:18] <RAdams> how can I find out what package a kernel module belongs to?
[17:18] <Leefmc> Tonehog: Oh no, if i did i said it incorrectly. My bad. In my library, there are often 2 of the same song imported when i load up
[17:18] <user_> netsrot: thats possible, because the latest release candidate is the stable release in case its "bugfree".
[17:19] <Leefmc> Tonehog: Yea
[17:19] <Leefmc> Tonehog: Its seemingly random, i haven't found the pattern yet
[17:19] <nickrud> RAdams dpkg -S /path/to/file
[17:19] <RAdams> nickrud: thanks
[17:19] <user_> netsrot: thats possible, because the latest release candidate becomes the stable release in case its "bugfree".
[17:19] <susenj> .can anybody solve my problem  :(
[17:19] <netsrot> user_: wasn't the UI supposed to change looks?
[17:19] <Onebeer> spanther: gentoo's portage does a pretty good job..and it doesn't have to keep old source files cluttering up the system..anyway, lets not argue over which distro is better..heh
[17:19] <user_> netsrot: what do you mean?
[17:20] <Onebeer> spanther: I couldn't even boot gentoo last time I tried
[17:20] <nickrud> susenj you need to ask every 5-10 minutes or so; often when someone is working with a problem, they miss the new problems
[17:20] <Tonehog> Leefmc: It's been a while since I've used that app. Isn't there a preen library option?
[17:20] <spanther> Onebeer, i didnt know that gentoo cleans up :) good to know then ;)
[17:20] <Tonehog> *prune.
[17:20] <Leefmc> Tonehog: Not sure
[17:20] <Leefmc> Tonehog: never saw it if there was
[17:20] <JohnnyL> how come i get a restricted shell if I try to run from cd (on a biostar motherboard)?
[17:20] <spanther> Onebeer, why couldn't you boot it? :)
[17:21] <Tonehog> Leefmc:  what audio driver are you using?
[17:21] <Sergeant_Pony> anyone know how to show 4 desktops on 1 screen?
[17:21] <ber2> firefox 3 freezes all the time with the error "Segmentation Fault". Help???
[17:21] <Leefmc> Tonehog: i forget offhand, i believe some default linux one is selected
[17:21] <Onebeer> spanther: not sure..it said it couldn't find the kernel for some reason..I've done a lot of switching hdds since I installed ubuntu..I did keep my existing /home tho..so no biggie I can always reinstall if I need to
[17:22] <Tonehog> Leefmc: ALSA?
[17:22] <Leefmc> Tonehog: Sounds right
[17:22] <Leefmc> Tonehog: Not sure why it matters though
[17:22] <Tonehog> Leefmc: BRB
[17:22] <Leefmc> Tonehog: This duplicate thing only started recently, but its not a huge deal anyway heh
[17:22] <spanther> Onebeer, i just hope your system runs now and to point a good thing at gentoo i've learned alot about running processes and kernel things while trying gentoo :) i understand the architecture of linux better now hehe
[17:22] <Carpe|Diem> is there a way to change the resolution of my tty's?
[17:23] <Leefmc> Tonehog: Just annoying.
[17:23] <steffen_> is slckware better than Ubuntu?
[17:23] <spanther> steffen_, its all linux and just a choice of taste :)
[17:23] <steffen_> okayx
[17:23] <netsrot> user_: I seem to be wrong sorry.
[17:24] <user_> netsrot: no need to worry at all ;-)
[17:24] <dewman> slackware is more manual configuration compaired to ubuntu
[17:24] <steffen_> i think a system must work but i liked do kill some time to play with the core.
[17:24] <Onebeer> spanther: yeah, same here
[17:25] <user_> steffen_: you might try ubuntu alpha release, /j ubuntu+1 ;-)
[17:25] <netsrot> user_: perhaps it has something to do with I installed ff2 after?
[17:25] <steffen_> thanks user i think i must taste it
[17:25] <FurryNemesis> !seen suprfish
[17:26] <Onebeer> spanther: here is why I installed Ubuntu -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=573307
[17:26] <spanther> Onebeer, everyone should have tried gentoo once just to look how linux runs and to learn commands it will help later doesn't matter which distribution you use then cause you know the ingredients of linux better :)
[17:26] <legend2440> i am thinking of making a seperate /home partition for hardy.    am i right in assuming the only advantage to having a seperate /home partition is if you do dist-upgrades?  or is it useful for clean installs also?
[17:26] <Onebeer> indeed ;)
[17:27] <spanther> Onebeer, but only on a second machine so that you still have ways to open websites and manuals to learn :D
[17:27] <Onebeer> legend2440: always do a seperate /home partition
[17:27] <user_> netsrot: dont know sorry, but i can imagine that switching between ff2/3 with config files and stuff is not trivial to program
[17:27] <Onebeer> a 2nd machine spanther always helps..:)
[17:27] <nickrud> legend2440 new installs also. There is no downside to having a separate /home (backups, whatever)
[17:28] <spanther> Onebeer, yup especially if you're new with linux you use ubuntu on your main system (very easy to administrate and hardware friendly) and then learn from gentoo how the system works so that you know how to survive in the world of linux :)
[17:28] <PathagenX> How do you reinstall something when dpkg is packing a sad?
[17:29] <nickrud> packing a sad?
[17:29] <PathagenX> This problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4040893
[17:29] <nickrud> gentoo to learn system? lfs if you're serious
[17:30] <Tonehog> Leefmc: you could possibly find the database for rhythmbox, delete it, and re-add the folders to the library.
[17:30] <Leefmc> Tonehog: You can just manually remove them too. Select them all, remove, and readd. Its what i do if it adds too many
[17:30] <PathagenX>  dpkg -S /usr/lib/libIex.so.2
[17:30] <PathagenX> libopenexr2c2a: /usr/lib/libIex.so.2
[17:30] <PathagenX> root@zighen:/home/pathagenx# dpkg-reconfigure libopenexr2c2a
[17:30] <PathagenX> Bus error (core dumped)
[17:30] <FloodBot1> PathagenX: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:30] <Leefmc> Tonehog: Otherwise i just delete the dups
[17:30] <spanther> nickrud, yeah gentoo to see how the core system works so you understand how linux runs :) its interesting ^^
[17:31] <mazyiar> hi, i have a problem sharing my ubuntu pc with windows machines. Can anybody help please.
[17:31] <nickrud> spanther that's still to automated for educational purposes. Try linux from scratch. Nothing works until you make it work
[17:31] <Tonehog> Leefmc: did you check the properties of each duplicate to see if they match? perhaps you have duplicate files in your audio directory.
[17:31] <rwg|Ubuntu> com
[17:31] <PathagenX> heh..
[17:32] <spanther> nickrud, yeah maybe to automated still but you have to think about what i said :) newbies maybe understand gentoo better (its still quite hard) than linux from scratch :D dont push them directly in hell ;)
[17:32] <PathagenX> mazyiar: put a shortcut to wmiapsrv.exe in your startup folder
[17:32] <Leefmc> Tonehog: No i havent, but its rather small, and i have not seen any dups. Not to mention if i add my entire library the dups are not there.
[17:32] <legend2440> Onebeer: ok lets say i have a seperate /home partition and later i do clean install of ibex or whatever the next one is.  all of those config files will work for newer versions of the software?  like if theres an openoffice upgrade in ibex all the settings would apply to the next version of openoffice?
[17:32] <mazyiar> ﻿PathagenX, what will that do?
[17:32] <PathagenX> that will help your windoze box work with everyone else better
[17:32] <Lord_Phoeni1> Good evening
[17:32] <Lord_Phoeni1> :-)
[17:32] <Tonehog> Leefmc: are you adding the library folder-by-folder?
[17:32] <the-herby> can you help me? i had a setup apache2 with php running. then i tried to add asp.net to my apache. it did work but since i rebooted my php is broken..
[17:32] <spanther> evening lord :)
[17:32] <Leefmc> Tonehog: Not normally
[17:32] <Onebeer> legend2440: yes, of course
[17:32] <Leefmc> Tonehog: Well
[17:32] <legend2440> Onebeer: ok thank you
[17:33] <tabber> hi, can anyone helo me with this? sometimes the vista partition gets detected and sometimes it doesn't :s, no clue what is going on
[17:33] <mazyiar> ﻿PathagenX, but i'm on an ubuntu machine, and i want to share out to and access windows shares on my university network
[17:33] <Leefmc> Tonehog: If i add the entire library new, then no i do not. I add the entire library at once. If i have a new single album to add, i add just that.
[17:33] <Jane_ux> nickrud: works fine, thanks again :)
[17:33] <PathagenX> use gnome shares
[17:33] <nickrud> PathagenX I've never run into an error similar to that; did you do the trace?
[17:33] <grobda24> the-herby ... "mark for reinstallation" in synaptic
[17:33] <nickrud> Jane_ux you're welcome
[17:34] <Tonehog> Leefmc: but you haven't found any pattern, such as when you solely add an album?
[17:34] <WhoNeedszzz> Hey guys. I'm using wicd as my network daemon but last night i accidentally clicked network and a dialog looking like nm-applet (even though it says it is uninstalled) popped up and has taken control of my network settings. Anything i do in wicd is not being applied. How do i get control back?
[17:34] <Jane_ux> nickrud: about the login or logout script, do u have any idea how to do it???
[17:34] <mazyiar> ﻿PathagenX, my problem is that we don't have static IP's, so i need to navigate by share names
[17:34] <Leefmc> Tonehog: No.
[17:34] <mazyiar> and i can't figure that out
[17:34] <user_> the-herby: you might your apache.logs.
[17:34] <PathagenX> that I cannot help you with
[17:34] <user_> the-herby: you might check your apache.logs.
[17:34] <mazyiar> hmm k thanks ﻿PathagenX
[17:34] <PathagenX> XP broke alot of stuff
[17:34] <Tonehog> Leefmc: what you really need to do is add your "Music" directory, then rescan the directory when you add a new album to the directory.
[17:34] <grobda24> WhoNeedszzz ... "mark for reinstallation" in synaptic ? ( :P )
[17:34] <nickrud> Jane_ux no, I've not tried anything similar to that so really don't have an idea about where to put that in the login sequence
[17:35] <WhoNeedszzz> grobda24: tried that
[17:35] <spanther> uh well :x i forgot how to unlock the "su" account maybe somebody knows ? :)
[17:35] <mazyiar> ﻿hi, i have a problem sharing my ubuntu pc with windows machines. Can anybody help please.
[17:35] <Jane_ux> nickrud: ok thanks, av a nice day
[17:35] <Onebeer> mazyiar: install samba
[17:35] <Leefmc> Tonehog: I'll try that next time. Though if i add the entire library now, and do not add anything new for a week, it'll still duplicate within this week.
[17:35] <Leefmc> Tonehog: Its not tied to adding new media, best i can tell.
[17:35] <grobda24> WhoNeedszzz .. is it fully reinstalling .. removing the Gnome net manager ? There are manual instruation on the Wicd website.
[17:36] <grobda24> instructions*
[17:36] <mazyiar> ﻿Onebeer, i already have samba, but i can't figure out how to access pc's on my network according to their name. Like in windows i can just to \\tim for example
[17:36] <WhoNeedszzz> grobda24: yes. the gnome net manager never got reinstalled
[17:36] <spanther> Onebeer, why did you want to stream a video file out of an rar package why not unrar it and then deleting the rar file itself? :)
[17:36] <grobda24> WhoNeedszzz ... follow the manual instructions on wicd website to make sure.
[17:37] <tabber> bash: fstab: command not found, why!!!!
[17:37] <ads_> is there a tool to crop desktop size??
[17:37] <cirkit> tabber: fstab is a configuration file located in /etc/
[17:37] <cirkit> open it with a text editor
[17:37] <grobda24> tabber .. it's a file, and you need to do "sudo gedit /etc/fstab", or "gkedit" if you want GUI.
[17:37] <cirkit> editor /etc/fstab
[17:37] <Tonehog> Leefmc: where's your library database located? I can't find it in my home directory.
[17:38] <Leefmc> Tonehog: No idea.
[17:38] <zerwas> Is someone using the intrepid theme in hardy?
[17:38] <Leefmc> Tonehog: heh, dont worry about it man :o, i doubt were going to find the problem now.
[17:38] <Leefmc> Tonehog: It'll just take time.
[17:38] <user_> zerwas: no, intrepid is pre-aplha
[17:39] <Tonehog> Leefmc: you've got me interested now :)
[17:39] <tabber> grobda24, oops. any clue why vista partition gets mounted(at boot) only sometimes? it's completely random
[17:39] <zerwas> user01_, that's no reason to not use the theme :-P
[17:39] <Leefmc> Tonehog: haha, sorry mate, but i got work to do too ;)
[17:39] <zerwas> user01_, is that the way to tell me i should go to #ubuntu+1? :)
[17:39] <user_> zerwas: its still dangerous, isnt it ;-) ;-)
[17:39] <Tonehog> Leefmc: s'cool.
[17:40] <zerwas> user_, no. it just starts to get dangerous!
[17:40] <mazyiar> ﻿hi, i have a problem sharing my ubuntu pc with windows machines. Can anybody help please.
[17:40] <thetank> if I want to use php what files do I have to pick in synaptic?
[17:41] <WhoNeedszzz> grobda24: there is nothing that addresses my problem
[17:41] <user_> !php | thetank
[17:41] <wols> !lamp | thetank
[17:41] <wols> !ask | mazyiar
[17:41] <Ward1983> my microphone is not working, even if i try to open sound recorder it says i should first fix my settings and doest open
[17:42] <grobda24> WhoNeedszzz ... hmmm. Maybe you could post on the forum.
[17:42] <Onebeer> spanther: it does more than just stream..it also seeks if the file(s) are already downloaded fully
[17:42] <Onebeer> spanther: and saves the trouble of having to unrar
[17:42] <Ward1983> what can be wrong? it has worked fine untill i thought my settings were wrong because i didnt hear anything, but it turned out my mom pressed buttons while cleaning my decoder...
[17:42] <thetank> ubottu, is this what I need to edit "program" a website?
[17:42] <Ward1983> so i didnt recall afterwards what settings were changed
[17:42] <thetank> user_, is this what I need to edit "program" a website?
[17:42] <Ward1983> so PLEASE help me to fix it, i tried for days, im just unable
[17:43] <WhoNeedszzz> Does anyone know how to set default network manager?
[17:43] <Ward1983> microphones are too complicated for me i guess...
[17:43] <Tonehog> Ward1983: what sound driver are you using?
[17:43] <the-herby> i reinstalled apache2 and the modules but still it does not interpret php
[17:43] <user_> thetank: i cant follow, sorry, you want to program php programs for an internet server (apache f.e.)?
[17:43] <Ward1983> Tonehog, how can i check? i use alsa if thats what you mean
[17:43] <RAdams> Anyone know where I could get a package of the .25 kernel for Ubuntu 8.04? i've got backports enabled, but unless I'm missing something, the newest is .19. A specific problem with my setup was fixed in .25-ish, I believe
[17:44] <thetank> yes,
[17:44] <mazyiar> Hi, i have an ubuntu machine. I'm on a university network, that has dynamic IP addresses assigned by DHCP. I want to share files on my machine, so that people can access me just by my computer name, and i want to access other windows shares by there computer names. Could anyone help please?
[17:44] <Tonehog> Ward1983: run alsamixer in console and see if your mic is activated.
[17:44] <randomnr> hi! how long does it normally take until canonical updates such important apps as pidgin?
[17:44] <user_> thetank: you can use any text editor or a php editor for programmers. check out the program list in synaptic
[17:45] <Starnestommy> randomnr: updates are usually only done for security fixes
[17:45] <Ward1983> Tonehog, every mic is open there front and regular one
[17:45] <Starnestommy> randomnr: wait for the next release of ubuntu if you need more that just those updates
[17:45] <mm1> mazyiar:   sfs-server + sfs-client
[17:45] <RAdams> randomnr: the updates are usually security focused. feature updates aren't as emphasized until the update has matured a bit. If you want new features right away, compile from the latest source pidgin offers. Sometimes enabling the proposed repo does give you some of those, though.
[17:46] <thetank> user01_,  I heard kdevelop is really good
[17:46] <Tonehog> Ward1983: what sound recorder are you using?
[17:46] <user_> thetank: possible, just ask in a php channel and read a bit on the net what others use
[17:47] <Ward1983> Tonehog, the default one i think its called soundrecorder
[17:47] <thetank> user_ thanks
[17:47] <spanther> Onebeer, i see :) well but i prefer the real videofiles with preview pictures in it hehe :)
[17:48] <mazyiar> mm1, could you elaborate a bit please, i'm new to ubuntu
[17:48] <Ward1983> Tonehog, is there qnother tool i cqn use to test my microphone?
[17:48] <leprasmurf> hello all.  so I installed flash 10 as per some workaround to the locking of audio associated with pulseaudio.  Now I can't use the arrow keys in wonderful flash games (or any key to move, presummably it's something to do with the function being called)
[17:49] <leprasmurf> does anyone know a workaround?
[17:49] <Tonehog> Ward1983: what's your desktop environment?
[17:49] <Ward1983> Tonehog, ubuntu
[17:49] <RAdams> Anyone know where I could get a package of the .25 kernel for Ubuntu 8.04? i've got backports enabled, but unless I'm missing something, the newest is .19. A specific problem with my setup was fixed in .25-ish, I believe
[17:49] <Tonehog> Ward1983: I KNOW that, but are you using Gnome-Desktop, or KDE?
[17:49] <randomnr> thank you RAdams and Starnestommy
[17:49] <Kidfork> Im having a little trouble with Ubuntu, When i installed it inside-windows the instatlation worked perfectly, however, it installed fine, and i was able to log on once to Ubuntu. (im using the live cd version at the moment) BUt when i try to do it now it goes to the loading screen stops and i get a command line "Busy box v.1.3 Debain 1.1.1-5ubuntu12 Built in shell (Ash) Initramfs
[17:49] <Ward1983> Tonehog, gnome
[17:49] <Ward1983> Tonehog, else i would have said Kubuntu
[17:50] <Ward1983> Tonehog, apperantly U DONT KNOW that
[17:50] <Tonehog> Ward1983: do you have GNUSound?
[17:50] <BadElvis> hi, i just wanted to enable the nvidia driver, and now everything is f...d up and i have only got 800x600
[17:50] <Tonehog> Ward1983: I'm using KDE
[17:50] <Tonehog> Ward1983: :P
[17:50] <BadElvis> >*
[17:50] <speedhunt3r> what can I do to fix my terrible desktop loading time? it opens up a window that says "There was an error starting the GNOME settings Daemon...error message was: did not receive a reply
[17:50] <Ward1983> Tonehog, by ubuntu i meant gnome, because kubuntu is kde
[17:51] <Tonehog> Ward1983: try gnusound for recording.
[17:51] <Ward1983> ok
[17:53] <Good-Girl> Привет всем
[17:53] <WhoNeedszzz> Hey guys. I'm using wicd as my network daemon but last night i accidentally clicked network and a dialog looking like nm-applet (even though it says it is uninstalled) popped up and has taken control of my network settings. Anything i do in wicd is not being applied. How do i get control back?
[17:53] <voyagi> For some reason I can't surf with firefox on my 3G-broadband, but it works in galeon and on all other protocolls
[17:53] <randomnr> hi Good-Girl
[17:54] <Kirth> Fail.
[17:54] <mazyiar> ﻿Hi, i have an ubuntu machine. I'm on a university network, that has dynamic IP addresses assigned by DHCP. I want to share files on my machine, so that people can access me just by my computer name, and i want to access other windows shares by there computer names. Could anyone help please?
[17:54] <user_> !ru | Good-Girl
[17:54] <DRebellion> !samba | mazyiar
[17:54] <qingfeng> hello,
[17:55] <qingfeng> who know the LDAP Server
[17:55] <user_> qingfeng: whats your error message?
[17:55] <RAdams> !ru | good-girl
[17:56] <RAdams> oh missed that you already sent that factoid user_ :|
[17:56] <user_> RAdams: good girl did catch my eye pretty fast.. ;-)
[17:56] <qingfeng> I just want to know the LDAP Server's info ,i think to try !
[17:56] <RAdams> heh
[17:56] <user_> !lamp | qingfeng
[17:56] <BadElvis> is there a way to reset my xorg.conf?
[17:57] <RAdams> BadElvis: using nvidia proprietary driver or no?
[17:57] <qingfeng> no LAMP, Is LDAP Server
[17:57] <Lord_Phoeni1> People. do you have any ideas, why Ubuntu hangs up every time I'm trying to login as second user?
[17:57] <JohnnyL> why would I get a restricted command shell from only trying to boot from cd?
[17:57] <user_> qingfeng: oh, sorry
[17:57] <user_> !ldap | qingfeng
[17:58] <BadElvis> RAdams, i have a thinkpad x60s laptop with intel graphics
[17:58] <grant__> anyone know if xchat supports blowfish ?
[17:58] <WhoNeedszzz> Hey guys. I'm using wicd as my network daemon but last night i accidentally clicked network and a dialog looking like nm-applet (even though it says it is uninstalled) popped up and has taken control of my network settings. Anything i do in wicd is not being applied. How do i get control back?
[17:59] <RAdams> BadElvis: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. you may need to do some tweaking after reconfiguration to restore custom settings for your intel driver. It will backup your old xorg.conf; use that for reference after it builds the new one if something isn't working
[17:59] <Kidfork>  Im having a little trouble with Ubuntu, When i installed it inside-windows the instatlation worked perfectly, however, it installed fine, and i was able to log on once to Ubuntu. (im using the live cd version at the moment) BUt when i try to do it now it goes to the loading screen stops and i get a command line "Busy box v.1.3 Debain 1.1.1-5ubuntu12 Built in shell (Ash) Initramfs
[17:59] <keiserr> hi, i think i screwed my system, i just bought a new video card [nvidia 8400GS], to install it i download the nvidia driver from nvidia's website and isudo sh nvidia.... to install it
[17:59] <qingfeng> Ok, ,,,is like the Active Directory on Windows?
[17:59] <tabber> hi, when i try to mount my windows partition i get this error: Failed to access '/dev/disk/by-uuid/dev\x2fsda1': No such file or directory. google doesn't give an answer :(
[17:59] <keiserr> but now it says no screen found
[17:59] <BadElvis> RAdams, ok i will try thanks
[17:59] <RAdams> Kidfork: your kernel isn't being loaded
[17:59] <Kidfork> RAdams: How can i make it load?
[18:00] <Good-Girl> ubottu меня забанили.
[18:00] <RAdams> qingfeng: read the ldap factoid from ubottu. It is a similar concept, but not the same.
[18:00] <WhoNeedszzz> Hey guys. I'm using wicd as my network daemon but last night i accidentally clicked network and a dialog looking like nm-applet (even though it says it is uninstalled) popped up and has taken control of my network settings. Anything i do in wicd is not being applied. How do i get control back?
[18:00] <yell0w> user_: yes ?
[18:00] <RAdams> Kidfork: did you opt out of installing grub when you installed ubuntu?
[18:00] <RAdams> !ru > Good-Girl
[18:00] <WhoNeedszzz> !ping
[18:00] <icewaterman> hi, i have a question about the speaker for blind people. it seems to be reading stuff much too fast. someone i know wants to use ubuntu but is blind. i am trying to setup his computer atm
[18:00] <Lord_Phoeni1> RAdams: hey, don't you the same RAdams that wrote ATT?
[18:01] <RAdams> Lord_Phoeni1: nope
[18:01] <Kidfork> RAdams: ?
[18:01] <yell0w> user_: anh muo'n hoi? ca'i gi`
[18:01] <Lord_Phoeni1> RAdams: okay :-)
[18:01] <RAdams> Kidfork: when you installed ubuntu, did you specifically tell it NOT to install GRUB?
[18:01] <user_> yell0w: which language do you speak
[18:01] <RAdams> Kidfork: if you don't know, the answer is most likely "no" :)
[18:02] <Gnea> WhoNeedszzz: you'll need to uninstall it and remove the repo
[18:02] <qingfeng> ok ,think you !
[18:02] <WhoNeedszzz> Gnea: uninstall what?
[18:02] <Hugowang> help~~~~ my notebook cannot load XP after installing ubuntu 8.04.. :(
[18:02] <Gnea> WhoNeedszzz: you're only referring to one thing: wicd
[18:02] <tabber> hi, im getting Failed to access '/dev/disk/by-uuid/dev\x2fsda1': No such file or directory when trying to mount sda1, any helo?
[18:02] <Lord_Phoeni1> Hugowang: forget it, use Hardy only
[18:03] <tabber> help
[18:03] <RAdams> !dualboot | Hugowang
[18:03] <Phosis> Does anyone here use Ircd-hybrid?
[18:03] <Bax_> how do I replace a mouse with a joystick, and assign the joystick's buttons to my liking?  ubuntu fiesty
[18:03] <WhoNeedszzz> Gnea: no i'm not. I said an nm-applet dialog that i found out is network-admin
[18:03] <Gnea> WhoNeedszzz: but wicd is a third-party ubuntu app, which means you installed it explicitly
[18:03] <WhoNeedszzz> Hey guys. I'm using wicd as my network daemon but last night i accidentally clicked network and network-admin popped up and has taken control of my network settings. Anything i do in wicd is not being applied. How do i get control back?
[18:03] <WhoNeedszzz> there
[18:03] <yell0w> user_: english and vietnamese
[18:03] <Hugowang> When I select XP in grub menu, the XP starts with a starting processing bar, and then turned a blue screen......system reboot......
[18:03] <Kidfork> RAdams: Well i installed it directly through WUBI so there was no option about that, i can still go back into windows, too bad its screwed up.
[18:04] <Phosis> Does anyone here use Ircd-hybrid?
[18:04] <RAdams> Hugowang: that is a windows problem then. if it gets that far, it's not grub's fault
[18:04] <user_> yell0w: ok, we dont have viatnamese channel yet, so just ask your question and someone will try to anser
[18:04] <RAdams> Kidfork: ok. so when you first start your computer, you have the option to pick between windows and ubuntu?
[18:04] <Gnea> WhoNeedszzz: yes, you indeed have problems.
[18:05] <Hugowang> but i search in the Internet, found many guys installing the ubuntu 8.04 ran into the same problem
[18:05] <Sergeant_Pony> anyone know how I can show my 4 desktops on 1 screen?
[18:05] <Lynet> Using wine/ies4linux/ieTab is it possible to run ieTab in Linux Firefox?
[18:05] <gleesond_home> is there a command line tool for burning iso
[18:05] <Hugowang> so I am confusing.  I wonder if there is something wrong with ubuntu 8.04's program?
[18:05] <CrashTest_> Lynet: I have not been able to get that to work myself
[18:05] <Onebeer> gleesond_home: cdrecord
[18:05] <Phosis> gleesond_home wouldnt a simple google search show you that?
[18:05] <RAdams> Lynet: not without modifying the source of that extension. You'd have to signficantly rewrite it
[18:05] <Hugowang> yes, the grub menu looks ok.
[18:06] <Tonehog> Hugowang: what program?
[18:06] <CrashTest_> Any idea on how to change the tray icons for pidgin and tomboy?
[18:06] <Phosis> Does anyone know how to change the host addrsss in ircd-hybrid??
[18:06] <Kidfork> RAdams: Correct
[18:06] <yell0w> user_: i thought you had a question :)
[18:06] <Xazax> hi! i have some trouble with my internet under ubuntu. I have an usb adsl modem and i can't connect to internet. Yesterday everything worked well without any driver or setup or configuration
[18:06] <Phosis> Does anyone know how to change the host address in ircd-hybrid?
[18:06] <user_> yell0w: when did i ask you? ;-)
[18:07] <yell0w> user_: nvm
[18:07] <Lynet> RAdams: Ah, ok. Do you happen to know if running the entire firefox/IE/ieTab stuff under wine works?
[18:07] <RAdams> Kidfork: ok, can you send me your /boot/grub/menu.lst? i realize you can't boot into Ubuntu, one really quick way to grab it might be to install imaginary fs from www.fs-driver.org so you can mount your ext3 in Windows
[18:07] <leprasmurf> hello all.  so I installed flash 10 as per some workaround to the locking of audio associated with pulseaudio.  Now I can't use the arrow keys in wonderful flash games (or any key to move, presummably it's something to do with the function being called)
[18:07] <leprasmurf> does anyone know a workaround?
[18:07] <WhoNeedszzz> Hey guys. I'm using wicd as my network daemon but last night i accidentally clicked network and network-admin popped up and has taken control of my network settings. Anything i do in wicd is not being applied. How do i get control back?
[18:07] <BadElvis> RAdams, i did as you told me, but still, i have only 800x600, wrong board layout and when i do nvidia-settings, it says im not using the nvidia driver
[18:07] <RAdams> Lynet: it would not
[18:07] <RAdams> BadElvis: you're not using nvidia driver because you have an intel chip.
[18:07] <Guest43141> hola alguien que hable espanol
[18:08] <yell0w> !es | Guest43141
[18:08] <RAdams> BadElvis: please post your lshw | grep Intel to pastebin, along with your xorg.conf
[18:08] <tux> i'm getting this strange behavior in my trash folder...many files in there are named strangely, like "filename.2.2.2.2.2.2.2.2.2.2.2.2.2.2.2.2.2.sh" ....is this normal behavior?
[18:08] <Hugowang> Hi tonehog, the problem is:  After I installed ubuntu 8.04, I reboot the box. When I select Windows XP in the grub bar, the XP starts...but soon a blue screen happens, followed by a rebooting .......I searched it in the Internet, I found many guys ran into the same problem.  I guess something should be wrong with the 8.04's installing program..?
[18:08] <RAdams> tux: do they go away if you empty the trash?
[18:08] <Guest43141> hi
[18:08] <Wootie> Hello, where can i configure grub to default launch windows xp? :D
[18:09] <tux> RAdams, well yes of course...but then new trashed files do the same thing
[18:09] <Xazax> sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[18:09] <Tonehog> Hugowang: I'm sorry, I only have a single-boot with a virtual machine XP
[18:09] <yell0w> Wootie: sudo aptitude install startupmanager
[18:09] <jpds> !gksudo | Xazax
[18:09] <Hugowang> anyway, thanks
[18:09] <RAdams> Wootie: /boot/grub/menu.lst, change the default from "0" to the entry matching your Windows boot instructions. 0 is the first option in the boot menu, so count down from there. Or use default "saved". Read the comments in menu.lst
[18:09] <Per> per
[18:10] <RAdams> jpds: aptitude is not a graphical application
[18:10] <jpds> RAdams: He said: "sudo gedit"
[18:10] <Hugowang> i mount the windows partition in ubuntu, fortunately it is OK. and I backup all of  my data in windows xp.
[18:10] <RAdams> jpds:  Sorry, totally missed that. Just saw it
[18:10] <Wootie> i will try the startup manager i guess too
[18:10] <Tonehog> Does a KDE theme need *specific* support for Kontact? The theme isn't applying to the proogram.
[18:10] <Per> anyone know how to solve issues with complexed letters, in swedish -> ÅÄÖ. those are unable to write in some sites and for example google talk
[18:10] <Kidfork> RAdams: Can i install Ubuntu and dual-boot with windows with WUBI?
[18:10] <Hugowang> so I guess the disk file table has been wrong to XP ?
[18:10] <RAdams> Tonehog: iirc, yes
[18:10] <Hugowang> or something like that?
[18:10] <Kidfork> RAdams: Because i installed WUBI in Windows-Safemode
[18:10] <Guest43141> where can i get the drivers for mother boards foxconn???
[18:11] <Hugowang> but I dont know how to fix it. :(
[18:11] <RAdams> Kidfork: why in safe mode?
[18:11] <Lord_Phoenix> Guys, does someone use Last.Fm for Hardy?
[18:11] <tabber> Mount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use. Choose one action:! getting closer
[18:11] <user_> Per: have you installed swedish language files and keyboard layout?
[18:11] <RAdams> Lord_Phoenix: the program, or just scrobbling in general?
[18:11] <BadElvis> RAdams, http://pastebin.ca/1057549
[18:11] <Per> user_: yes I have!
[18:11] <Yud_Zroc> hello peeps
[18:11] <Tonehog> Per: you can also use a special character applet as well.
[18:11] <Per> user_
[18:11] <Lord_Phoenix> RAdams: the application
[18:11] <Kidfork> RAdams: Idk why but one day i logged on WIndows and it was always crashing and lagging, but when i poped in the ubuntu live cd everything worked fine, thats why in safe mode
[18:11] <RAdams> Lord_Phoenix: ah. no then
[18:12] <esDebian-ve> Hi, how can i change the screen resolution in Hardy with the terminal?
[18:12] <Guest43141> where can i get the drivers for motherboards foxconn???
 where could I activate that one?
[18:12] <Lord_Phoenix> RAdams: may there is some kind of plugin for linux as well?
[18:12] <RAdams> Kidfork: installing wubi in safe mode is not recommended
[18:12] <Tonehog> EsDebian-ve: I usually edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.
[18:12] <user_> Per: is googletalk entirely java script or a full application like *.exe?
[18:12] <RAdams> Lord_Phoenix: I have successfully used the rhythmbox and exaile! plugins for last.fm; they work fine
[18:12] <Kidfork> RAdams: I didn't realy have much of a choice
[18:12] <Tonehog> Per: Are you using ubuntu or kubuntu?
[18:13] <RAdams> user_: it's a full app
[18:13] <Guest43141> where can i get the drivers for mother boards foxconn???
 google talk it is an java application
[18:13] <Lord_Phoenix> RAdams: okay, will check it, thx
[18:13] <RAdams> Kidfork: might be time to reinstall and fix Windows then. Because installing it in safe mode is not likely to result in a workable environment
[18:13] <esDebian-ve> Tonehog: In Hardy that file is nearly empty.
 I am using Ubuntu Hardy Heron
[18:13] <user_> Per: if the other site use java for input routines it could be a java problem
[18:13] <RAdams> per: googletalk is a full .exe application, not a java applet.
[18:13] <darncode> i'm trying to build a local mirror, does anyone know how to build file "Packages" ?
[18:14] <Yud_Zroc> when programming to make a program for linux (preferably a *.deb for ubuntu series) what language fits the most well
[18:14] <Tonehog> Per: right-click on one of the bars and add applet.
[18:14] <Kidfork> RAdams: Any idea on how to reinstall windows without its disc
[18:14] <hwilde> why is my monitor repeatedly fading out like a laptop into power saver mode??  it doesn't recognize mouse input to wakeup but if I hit the keyboard it brightens back up
[18:14] <RAdams> Yud_Zroc: do you like ketchup or mustard?
[18:14] <RAdams> Kidfork: you can't.
[18:14] <Per> user_: yes, you're right... I could remove java and try again, then reinstall java.
[18:14] <Yud_Zroc> ketchup
[18:14] <ApiphobicFlora> Oh boy am I having trouble.
[18:14] <RAdams> Kidfork: unless you have some kind of recovery partition on your hard drive
[18:14] <mudit> i have a strange problem with my audio, If I have audio playing in the browser(a youtube video), then the audio from the mp3 player from my desktop wont work !
[18:15] <Yud_Zroc> who said the W word in this channel
[18:15] <Per> Tonehog: okey, thanks!
[18:15] <esDebian-ve> Tonehog: And it doesn't give any clue about anything.....
[18:15] <user_> Per: wait
[18:15] <Per> user_: still here
[18:15] <Tonehog> EsDebian-ve: mine's quite full.
[18:15] <user_> Per, RAdams wikipedia says its *.exe for windows (ok, thats logical), and flash for other platforms, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Talk
[18:16] <BoltClock> whats the minimum disk space required if i want to install ubuntu on my thumb drive?
[18:16] <ApiphobicFlora> I'm trying to reinstall windows from a recovery partition, but it kept giving me an error when it was trying to start.  I figured it was because my only available partition was formatted ext3, so I used a USB Ubuntu distro to reformat the partition fat32,and now i'm getting a grub error and can't even boot into the recovery partition, since I have to load windows through grub to get to the recovery program.
[18:16] <mudit> seems like multiple channels are not supported by the driver
[18:16] <Tonehog> EsDebian-ve: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23558/
[18:16] <user_> Per: you use "original" google talk?
[18:16] <Per> user_: google talk are flash?
[18:16] <mudit> i have a strange problem with my audio, If I have audio playing in the browser(a youtube video), then the audio from the mp3 player from my desktop wont work !
[18:17] <keithclark> Any last ideas on how to control my laptop before I give up and go back to XP?  It runs at 100% cpu all the time and continuously shuts down due to heating problems.
[18:17] <user_> Per: thats how i understand wikipedia egnlish site
[18:17] <fido> where can i get the drivers for motherboards foxconn???please
[18:17] <Per> user_: I use the one you only start from browser, I've tested with the one I can install aswell.... had the same issue on that one.
[18:17] <Bax_> I want to replace the scroll wheel on my mouse with a throttle on my joystick, and the right and left mouse buttons with the thumb buttons on my joystick.  How do I do this?  ubuntu fiesty
[18:18] <Tonehog> Keithclark: do you know what's eating all your CPU cycles?
[18:18] <mudit> anyone to help me on issues with my Audio ?
[18:18] <Guest81749> where can i get the drivers for motherboards foxconn???
[18:18] <flydoc52> hello
[18:18] <Tonehog> Mudit: what issues?
[18:18] <esDebian-ve> Tonehog: Uh? Mine only have about ten lines.... I installed it from a base-cd, and KDE was the first GUI...
[18:18] <RAdams> BadElvis: your xorg.conf has no configuration information for your video card. Try 915resolution, as installing it will write intel configuration information into your xorg.conf. be prepared for an xorg crash, though. You may need to re-run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg if that happens. Make sure you select the right video driver from the options.
[18:19] <Tonehog> EsDebian-ve: try what RAdams stated.
[18:19] <RAdams> Guest81749: what isn't working
[18:19] <BadElvis> RAdams, is 915resolution a command?
[18:19] <RAdams> BadElvis: no, a package. You need to install it
[18:19] <user_> Per: it could be a flash problem then. can you check that the other sites, which also dont work, work with flash?
[18:19] <BadElvis> thx
[18:19] <mudit> Tonehog whenever i play an Audio from MP3 player on my desktop, the Audio wont work in browser, And when it is working in browser it wont work in the MP3 player
[18:19] <Tonehog> EsDebian-ve: what graphics card do you have on your computer?
[18:20] <Tonehog> Mudit: using ubuntu or kubuntu?
[18:20] <mudit> ubuntu Hardy
[18:20] <mudit> and Dell Notebook
[18:20] <Tonehog> Mudit: you should be able to set your desktop audio driver to ALSA, OSS, or PulseAudio(?)
[18:21] <Per> user_:the other site are www.smhi.se (swedish wheatersite) and the other flash things work just fine, but when I wanna write a name I have the same issues as in google talk
[18:21] <user_> Per: it could be a flash problem then. can you check that the other sites, which also dont work, use flash?
[18:21] <opt1k> hi, how can i split archives i've made with archive manager?
[18:21] <Guest81749> hola
[18:21] <mudit> hmm, how to do it ?
[18:22] <opt1k> yeah?
[18:22] <Per> user_: I will have a look around and I come back later on. thank u so far. :)
[18:22] <esDebian-ve> Tonehog: i'll try, thanks :)
[18:22] <user_> Per: does the problem occur on all flash sites, when you try to typ someting in an flash input field by using swedish characters?
[18:22] <mudit> though i have alsa mixer installed
[18:22] <Jack_Sparrow> opt1k tar comp[ression offers a way to set the size of the individual pieces
[18:22] <Gpalco> How do I change file (folder) permissions, so I could use it as a user. Can only use it with sudo for now.
[18:22] <Per> user_: I will have a look.
[18:22] <Tonehog> Mudit: you should have a sound option under the gnome settings.
[18:23] <opt1k> Jack_Sparrow how to do that?
[18:23] <Tonehog> Mudit: I'm in KDE so I can't dig around for you and find it.
[18:23] <opt1k> Gpalco chmod 777 foče
[18:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Gpalco What folder are you trying to change
[18:23] <opt1k> Gpalco chmod 777 file *
[18:23] <WhoNeedszzz> Hey guys. I'm using wicd as my network daemon but last night i accidentally clicked network and network-admin popped up and has taken control of my network settings. Anything i do in wicd is not being applied. How do i get control back? can someone please pm me if they can help?
[18:23] <Gpalco> Jack_Sparrow, /dev/bus/usb
[18:24] <opt1k> Jack_Sparrow: Can you tell me how to do that?
[18:24] <BoltClock> i have a sandisk cruzer micro 4 gb usb2 thumb drive. will it be able to accommodate hardy?
[18:24] <mudit> ok yes, found it
[18:24] <Jack_Sparrow> opt1k http://forums.macosxhints.com/archive/index.php/t-46151.html
[18:24] <WhoNeedszzz> Hey guys. I'm using wicd as my network daemon but last night i accidentally clicked network and network-admin popped up and has taken control of my network settings. Anything i do in wicd is not being applied. How do i get control back? can someone please pm me if they can help?
[18:25] <Gpalco> Jack_Sparrow, my scanner gets recognized unly with SUDO for some reason! So I thought changing rights would solve the pb
[18:25] <opt1k> thanks
[18:25] <user_> BoltClock: yes
[18:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Gpalco You are treading on dangerous ground
[18:25] <WhoNeedszzz> Does no one know how to set default network manager???
[18:25] <ApiphobicFlora> Ok, is there any way to uninstall grub from inside of ubuntu running off a flash drive?
[18:25] <BoltClock> user_: how much space will it need at a minimum? im talking the OS files and nothing much else
[18:25] <Jack_Sparrow> !info split
[18:25] <Tonehog> WhoNeedszzz: ~/.gnome2/network-admin-locations.
[18:25] <cyphase> so annoying.. the latest build of network-manager keeps connecting both ethernet and wireless
[18:25] <Jack_Sparrow> !find split
[18:25] <H__> ApiphobicFlora sure install another MBR over it
[18:26] <Jack_Sparrow> info splitvt
[18:26] <Gpalco> Jack_Sparrow, is there any other solution
[18:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Gpalco I am sure there is.. I am kinda busy, but wanted you to know that is not the right approach
[18:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup
[18:27] <WhoNeedszzz> Tonehog: that is profiles for the gnome network manager...
[18:27] <Gpalco> Jack_Sparrow, than yo uanswering
[18:27] <user_> BoltClock: 4gb seems to be minimum for ubuntu, however check also the section on xubuntu. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[18:27] <Tonehog> WhoNeedszzz: that's the program you used, and messed up your prior config app, right?
[18:27] <cirkit> Gpalco: try using xsan
[18:27] <ApiphobicFlora> Ok, noone knows?  is there any way to uninstall grub from inside of ubuntu running off a flash drive?
[18:27] <WhoNeedszzz> Hey guys. I'm using wicd as my network daemon but last night i accidentally clicked network and network-admin popped up and has taken control of my network settings. Anything i do in wicd is not being applied. How do i get control back? can someone please pm me if they can help?
[18:28] <Gpalco> Jack_Sparrow, I use gscan2pdf - it is gooood. but it fases same problem as xsane
[18:28] <WhoNeedszzz> how do i remove network-admin?
[18:28] <cirkit> ApiphobicFlora: apt-get remove grub ?
[18:28] <Tonehog> WhoNeedszzz: my point was if you have locations in that folder, if you remove them you might be able to take care of the wicd override.
[18:29] <WhoNeedszzz> Tonehog: didn't work
[18:29] <WhoNeedszzz> >>> how do i remove network-admin?
[18:29] <Tonehog> WhoNeedszzz: I think network-admin is a part of gnome-desktop.
[18:29] <BoltClock> user_: hmm you recommend xubuntu for my thumb drive?
[18:30] <sinn2df> can anyone help with mouse cursor disapearing.  restarting X does not fix, have to reboot.   happens 2 or 3 times a day.
[18:30] <BoltClock> user_: i think i might have to go with that too since the computers in school have specs only xubuntu would run efficiently on
[18:30] <BadElvis> RAdams, thanks a lot, im back at normal resolution and keyboard, where i was an hour ago! ill retry enabling my external monitor now...
[18:30] <user_> BoltClock: yes, i would think its the better shot then
[18:30] <BoltClock> user_: will i have a significantly different experience than the one i run on my desktop currently? since it uses xfce
[18:30] <cirkit> sinn2df: um what kind of mouse?
[18:30] <BoltClock> i use the original ubuntu on this machine
[18:30] <WhoNeedszzz> Is there not a config file that is being called to set default network manager?
[18:31] <Mythonarch> HELP
[18:31] <Mythonarch> please
[18:31] <Jack_Sparrow> opt1k Was that enough info or do you need something more?
[18:31] <Mythonarch> someone
[18:31] <BoltClock> !patience | mythonarch
[18:31] <WhoNeedszzz> Does anyone freaking know about network managers?!
[18:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !helpme > Mythonarch
[18:31] <cirkit> Mythonarch: you might be better off asking the question
[18:31] <sinn2df> sorry, generic usb wireless mouse
[18:31] <user_> BoltClock: cannot really tell, sorry, if you have time now and RAM just setup a virtual machine and start xubuntu. or live cd of course
[18:31] <ads_> my desktop is displaying larger than the viewable screen size.. can i scale my desktop down to fit??   chaning resolutions makes no difference, nor does changing the aspect ratio..
[18:32] <cirkit> sinn2df: if its a wireless mouse, try changing the batteries?
[18:32] <BoltClock> user_: ok, ill try the livecd tomorrow
[18:32] <Mythonarch> I've just installed mythbuntu, and connected up internet and my hauppage DVBT-USB stick. I don't know what to do, and the stick is not being recognised or something
[18:32] <BoltClock> user_: i wish to keep files on my thumbdrive for use with windows. will partitioning it into fat32 and ext3 do fine?
[18:33] <WhoNeedszzz> Hey guys. I'm using wicd as my network daemon but last night i accidentally clicked network and network-admin popped up and has taken control of my network settings. Anything i do in wicd is not being applied. How do i get control back? can someone please pm me if they can help?
[18:33] <Hexxeh> how do i change the default permissions for newly created files in a certain folder?
[18:33] <Nishkorma> How do i ocr an jpg image?
[18:33] <Hexxeh> files aren't world readable in my www root, i need them to be by default.
[18:33] <user_> BoltClock: i think so, yes
[18:33] <ads_> Hexxeh:  man chmod   ??
[18:33] <flouge1> how do you force a usb hard drive to mount
[18:33] <flouge1> i can see it on the desktop but it doesnt work
[18:33] <WhoNeedszzz> Hey guys. I'm using wicd as my network daemon but last night i accidentally clicked network and network-admin popped up and has taken control of my network settings. Anything i do in wicd is not being applied. How do i get control back? can someone please pm me if they can help?
[18:33] <flouge1> and isnt mounted
[18:34] <ads_> flouge1:  mount -f
[18:34] <Jack_Sparrow> WhoNeedszzz Please hold down on the repeats
[18:34] <Tonehog> WhoNeedszzz: hammering a question won't get it answered any faster.
[18:34] <WhoNeedszzz> well it seems no one is seeing it...
[18:34] <cirkit> lol
[18:34] <Jack_Sparrow> WhoNeedszzz Try a little patience.
[18:34] <Hexxeh> not seeing what i need in man for chmod ads_
[18:34] <WhoNeedszzz> i've been patient
[18:34] <sinn2df> cirkit: it has rechargable batteries, and is currently pluged in.  the mouse still works, have to look for highlighted buttons, just the graphical cursor is gone.  had been using this mouse with slackware 12 for some time with no issues.
[18:35] <Jack_Sparrow> WhoNeedszzz being rude wont help either
[18:35] <WhoNeedszzz> i've waited a long time for no answers
[18:35] <Stormx2> We're volunteers. You can be patient, or you can leave.
[18:35] <ads_> Hexxeh:  chmod changes the permissions for a file    so if you chmod 777  this will allows veryone read write execute permissions  :)
[18:35] <WhoNeedszzz> I've been in here for at least an hour...
[18:35] <WhoNeedszzz> with no help
[18:35] <Hexxeh> ads_: but the files are created by a script, which isn't running as root
[18:35] <Mythonarch> I've just installed mythbuntu, and connected up internet and my hauppage DVBT-USB stick. I don't know what to do, and the stick is not being recognised or something
[18:35] <cirkit> sinn2df: hmm is the proper module loaded for your mouse device?
[18:35] <Hexxeh> i need the files created to be world readable by default, i do know how chmod works...
[18:36] <WhoNeedszzz> ...
[18:36] <Tonehog> WhoNeedszzz: I've tried answering your question but you haven't been providing enough info.
[18:36] <BoltClock> user_: will it depend entirely on the computer to decide whether to boot from my thumbdrive first?
[18:36] <ads_> Hexxeh: run it at the end of the script recursively
[18:36] <Nishkorma> Hi,how do i convert an image of a book to ascii chars?
[18:36] <t35t0r> anyone have working quickcam usb messenger pro webcam in hardy ?
[18:36] <cirkit> WhoNeedszzz: it might be that people don't have an answer to your question. Have you given the forums a shot?
[18:36] <scifiguy951> i have aquestion its about the automatic updates thing
[18:36] <Stormx2> WhoNeedszzz, you aren't entitled to anything. Again, we're all volunteers.
[18:36] <Hexxeh> ads_: but the script isn't running as root
[18:36] <WhoNeedszzz> Tonehog: your help is not what i'm asking
[18:36] <Jack_Sparrow> WhoNeedszzz you are free to sign up for paid tech support
[18:36] <user_> BoltClock: yes, it depends on the BIOS of the machine your sitting at
[18:36] <ads_> Hexxeh: im not sure then sorry
[18:37] <Stormx2> WhoNeedszzz, try enabled roaming mode for your network connection?
[18:37] <BoltClock> user_: oh dear. im not very hopeful about running ubuntu in school now...
[18:37] <user_> BoltClock: you school admin f.e. could block booting from usb..
[18:37] <WhoNeedszzz> Stormx2: i want to use wicd
[18:37] <WhoNeedszzz> Stormx2: anything i do in wicd is not working bc it is looking for things from network-admin
[18:37] <Hexxeh> BoltClock: many machines will let you select a boot device by press Esc at boot
[18:37] <WhoNeedszzz> where is the config file that tells ubuntu which network daemon to use?
[18:37] <BoltClock> Hexxeh: esc or F8?
[18:37] <Hexxeh> this won't be saved into your BIOS, and generally isn't password protected.
[18:38] <Hexxeh> Esc
[18:38] <Hexxeh> Usually.
[18:38] <Stormx2> WhoNeedszzz, I know.
[18:38] <Stormx2> Have you tried what I said?
[18:38] <Hexxeh> this works on most of the machines I've used.
[18:38] <user_> BoltClock: unless its really not password protected.
[18:38] <WhoNeedszzz> Stormx2: i deleted the network-admin profiles so it shouldn't be doing anyrthing
[18:38] <sinn2df> cirkit: im not sure.  dont really know where to look, thought that maybe restarting the mouse handler would work but have only been using ubuntu for a few days and have not figured out where all the conf files are or what handlers and system servers are used.
[18:38] <BoltClock> ok, think i may have to spend next week exploring.
[18:38] <WhoNeedszzz> anything*
[18:39] <cirkit> /etc/network/interfaces WhoNeedszzz
[18:39] <Tonehog> WhoNeedszzz: look in /etc/rc2.d.
[18:39] <Tonehog> For your daemons.
[18:39] <Nishkorma> F8 boot isnt password protected
[18:39] <BoltClock> Nishkorma: what about esc?
[18:39] <cirkit> sinn2df: what is the name / model of your mouse?
[18:39] <Hexxeh> BoltClock: it's the same thing, the button changes depends on your mobo
[18:40] <Nishkorma> I havnt yet found a machine with tht
[18:40] <BoltClock> Hexxeh: so its just the mobo
[18:40] <Sergeant_Pony> anyone know how I can get all 4 of my desktops to show up on 1 screen so I can see them all at once? <super>e they are too small to see what's going on in each window.
[18:40] <sinn2df> cirkit: targus amw15us
[18:40] <Nishkorma> Yeah,dpends on ur motherboard
[18:40] <WhoNeedszzz> is there a way to reset network settings?
[18:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Sergeant_Pony /join #compiz
[18:41] <Hexxeh> BoltClock: yes.
[18:41] <opt1k> Jack_Sparrow: I could use some more info
[18:41] <Tonehog> Sergeant_Pony: sounds like you are wanting Beryl.
[18:41] <opt1k> a little bit simpler too
[18:41] <Jack_Sparrow> opt1k Split:tar -cf /foo.bu.tar /fooSource && nohup nice split --line-bytes=500m foo.tar.gz foo_    Rejoin: nohup nice cat foo_a* > foo_FULL.tar.gz &
[18:41] <newToLinux> Hi, is it possible to use static ip for LTSP?
[18:42] <BoltClock> is the GUI engine the one that most determines how much computer resource is needed whichever distro i use?
[18:42] <BoltClock> gnome, kde, xfce...
[18:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Tonehog Beryl is not longer, it merged with compiz-fusion
[18:42] <opt1k> can i rejoin it just by extracting.. like when rar's rejoin automatically or zips
[18:42] <Tonehog> Jack_Sparrow: thanks for the info :)
[18:42] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[18:42] <Jack_Sparrow> !beryl
[18:42] <WhoNeedszzz> is there a way to reset network settings?
[18:43] <hanasaki> any thoughts as to why dhcpd would be giving na ip to my wireless client but not wired?  config file is here http://pastebin.com/d67594cf9
[18:44] <Jack_Sparrow> opt1k I am not sure if there is a gui way to do it
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[18:45] <opt1k> Jack_Sparrow: tx anyway, I'll figure something out sooner or later :)
[18:45] <Jack_Sparrow> opt1k http://ubuntuhowtos.info/create_split_rar_archive
[18:45] <BadElvis> sorry to annoy again, but are there any built in options in 8.04 to use an external screen? i have a intel gma 950...
[18:45] <opt1k> that's cool, tx!
[18:46] <cirkit> sinn2df: hm try using mdetect to try and detect your wireless mouse
[18:46] <Dream> hey
[18:46] <cirkit> install mdetect if its not
[18:46] <BoltClock> sorry to ask: did anyone manage to catch my last question?
[18:46] <cirkit> xserver-xorg-input-mouse I'm assuming is installed too, sinn2df
[18:47] <Dream> i have a big Problem XD, will say when Ubuntu doesnt load
[18:47] <Dream> it says...."(initramfs)"
[18:47] <thetank> where can I find an ubuntu gvim and gemacs
[18:48] <thetank> package
[18:48] <Nishkorma> Thetank,gvim is in universe repository
[18:49] <the-herby> how can i really really remove / purge a application from my ubuntu? for example if i purge apache2 it just removes 92k of data.. and everything is still there and the service is even running.
[18:49] <Nishkorma> Probably gemacs is also there
[18:49] <Dream> ive bricked Ubuntu XD best way to put it
[18:49] <warlock> server irc.cl
[18:50] <sinn2df> cirkit: mdetect give /dev/psaus and intelimouse xserver-xorg-input-mouse is installed
[18:50] <Nishkorma> Theherby,remove apache2-mpm-worker
[18:50] <Jasael> hola
[18:51] <Lord_Phoenix> Guys, is there any free sound editor?
[18:51] <thetank> how do I add this to hardy heron... before I would just uncomment it
[18:51] <the-herby> Lord_phoenix, try audacity
[18:51] <Nishkorma> Thetank,u can enable it in synaptic
[18:51] <MrLinux> Hello, I need some help with my Ubuntu 7.10
[18:52] <cirkit> sinn2df: can you paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file please
[18:52] <cirkit> on pastebin
[18:52] <Nishkorma> !audacity
[18:52] <Dream> ive bricked Ubuntu XD best way to put it
[18:52] <MrLinux> I want to install apache, webmin and all that stuff, but I can't , what is the command to see al the packeges ?
[18:52] <Dream> busybox cmd prompt
[18:52] <Dream> +_+' sorry bout the last repeat
[18:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !webmin > MrLinux
[18:52] <cirkit> MrLinux: try apt-cach search apache
[18:52] <Lord_Phoenix> the-herby: great, thankx
[18:53] <Jester45> MrLinux: you can use apt-cache search packagename to search for one
[18:53] <Vr|3Z0> nas
[18:53] <Dream> !info busybox
[18:53] <sinn2df> /dev/psaux
[18:53] <sinn2df> intellimouse
[18:54] <woo> 1296个用户……
[18:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Dream Can you get in using recovery mode..  at the grub prompt
[18:54] <hwilde> why is my monitor repeatedly fading out like a laptop into power saver mode??  it doesn't recognize mouse input to wakeup but if I hit the keyboard it brightens back up
[18:54] <Dream> well, i powererd up, and its there
[18:55] <Dream> how do i recover ubuntu using it?
[18:55] <AromoniA> alguien me puede ayudar?
[18:55] <jpds> !es | AromoniA
[18:55] <Myrtti> !es | AromoniA
[18:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Dream Form complete questions on one line... you are too hard to follow if you dont
[18:55] <Dream> ok, try again....
[18:55] <cirkit> sinn2df: might wanna try changing the device being used for your mouse in xorg.conf
[18:55] <AromoniA> ubottu como entre ahi?
[18:56] <jpds> AromoniA: /join #ubuntu-es
[18:56] <Dream> Busybox has apeared upon startup, how do i use it to recover my last point on ubuntu?
[18:56] <cirkit> sinn2df: try using /dev/input/mouse0
[18:56] <Ashfire908> Is it documentated or noted anywhere what configure options were used to build a program for it's  package?
[18:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Dream recovery mode should be the second option in your grub list..  it should boot to a cli prompt.. you should be able to type startx and get a gui
[18:56] <cirkit> sinn2df: /dev/psaux is psuedo so that may be why your mouse cursor gets lost
[18:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Dream There is no RECOVER in that regard which is why we tell people to make bacvkups
[18:57] <Dream> +_+' erm i have been away for 3 days it was fine when i turned it off
[18:57] <cirkit> sinn2df: "Protocol""auto-dev"
[18:57] <Jack_Sparrow> bbl
[18:58] <sinn2df>         Option          "XkbModel"      "pc105"
[18:58] <sinn2df>         Option          "XkbLayout"     "us"
[18:58] <sinn2df> EndSection
[18:58] <sinn2df> Section "InputDevice"
[18:58] <sinn2df>         Identifier      "Configured Mouse"
[18:58] <FloodBot1> sinn2df: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:58] <cirkit> omg
[18:59] <sinn2df> sorry, hard to do things with out cursor.  will try changing device
[19:01] <moulson_> .
[19:01] <RonLu1> Hi. my system freezes when I open presentetion from gmail (with OO Presentation).... What should I do?
[19:01] <RonLu1> and I have to do reset to use the system again
[19:02] <Ashfire908> Can I do wildcards in /etc/hosts?
[19:03] <cirkit> RonLu1: can you open other files with OO presentation that are not Gmail?
[19:03] <RonLu1> cirkit: I don't have other files right now...
[19:04] <fester64> is that cirkit queer in here
[19:05] <WhoNeedszzz> How do i change the default network manager?
[19:05] <suprfish> Hi, I can't seem to get any help on this problem in the forums, I was wondering if anyone here could have a look: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5280320
[19:07] <BoltClock> some articles say that i really only need 1 gb of space to fit ubuntu (the one using gnome), but is it 1 or 4 gb?
[19:07] <RonLu1> ...?
[19:07] <cirkit> RonLu1: system up to date?
[19:08] <cirkit> RonLu1: is your memory good still?
[19:08] <cirkit> could be a segfault 11 signal
[19:08] <DRebellion> BoltClock, I wouldn't count on 1gb of space. I would say 10gb would comfortably fit your system partition.
[19:08] <BoltClock> DRebellion: so much? thats even more than recommended
[19:08] <mudit> hi, iam looking for a system process monitor for ubuntu hardy, what option do i have
[19:09] <DRebellion> BoltClock, are you space-limited?
[19:09] <DRebellion> mudit, I would recommend conky
[19:09] <cirkit> mudit: ntop
[19:09] <BoltClock> DRebellion: its going into my thumbdrive
[19:09] <BoltClock> DRebellion: which is 4 gb
[19:09] <BoltClock> sorry for not making it clear again :x
[19:09] <DRebellion> BoltClock, ah, right. I would dedicate about half to system, half to FAT for files
[19:09] <RonLu1> cirkit: system is up do date I think.... "memory good still"=?
[19:10] <cirkit> RonLu1: your RAM on your system, do you know if its good still? old RAM? new RAM?
[19:10] <BoltClock> DRebellion: so would that make 2 gb (half) ok for ubuntu?
[19:10] <DRebellion> BoltClock, I said 10gb because, on modern hardware, there is no need to be minimal.
[19:10]  * Dream is away DrWho is on
[19:10] <DRebellion> BoltClock, sure.
[19:10] <l3oddah> i have a hdd that was sdb, I accidentally deleted the partition on that drive thinking it was my usb stick, i have not formatted or repartitioned, does anyone know of a way i can get the data off that drive?
[19:11] <DRebellion> l3oddah, it can be done. Just not exactly sure how. A quick google search would do wonders, methinks.
[19:11] <cirkit> RonLu1: if your system is only locking up with oo presentation it may be a possible bug with oo
[19:11] <mudit> conly comes with a gui ?
[19:11] <MrLinux> How do I enable SSH login ??
[19:11] <DRebellion> MrLinux, sudo aptitude install openssh-server
[19:11] <ads_> my desktop is displaying larger than the viewable screen size.. can i scale my desktop down to fit??   changing resolutions makes no difference, nor does changing the aspect ratio..
[19:11] <l3oddah> DRebellion, thanks i am currently looking on google with no luck yet
[19:11] <DRebellion> l3oddah, hmm.
[19:12] <BoltClock> DRebellion: im thinking of trying xubuntu instead, though, because my school's computers have quite bad specs: 128 mb ram, for one. not sure about the graphics cards. im downloading xubuntu's iso to try it via live cd
[19:12] <DRebellion> BoltClock, cool.
[19:12] <user_> MrLinux: have you already ssh server isntalled?
[19:12] <HELPME> HELP ME, grub isnt working
[19:13] <HELPME> Kernel Panic> VFS> Unable to mount root fs on 08:21
[19:13] <cirkit> HELPME: Don't be stupid.
[19:13] <RonLu1> cirkit: 2GB RAM, 1 year old.... and no problem when not loading OO presentation. what should I do?
[19:13] <cirkit> Change your nick
[19:13] <HELPME> I am using a live cd
[19:13] <HELPME> I dont need to change nick
[19:13] <cirkit> yeah ok
[19:14] <candell> cirkit:
[19:14] <InsomniaCity`> Hi! The documentation refers to the device manager under System > Prefs
[19:14] <InsomniaCity`> but its not there
[19:14] <InsomniaCity`> where is it?
[19:14] <BoltClock> DRebellion: reading a few articles, im seeing that hardy has persistence-related problems or something?
[19:14] <MrLinux> !ebox
[19:14] <cirkit> RonLu1: can you work with open office in general without presentation? like word?
[19:14] <RonLu1> cirkit: yes
[19:14] <XB> whats the highest port number?
[19:14] <DRebellion> BoltClock, no idea.
[19:14] <ads_> !borat
[19:15] <candell> cirkit: hello.
[19:15] <cirkit> RonLu1: then it could very well be the Gmail files
[19:15] <cirkit> candell: hi
[19:15] <compilerwriter> How would one go about using Ibex on the same system as hardy in such a way that as Ibex was final one could switch the boot os to Ibex and then use the Hardy installation space for Jaybird?
[19:15] <candell> :))
[19:15] <Starnestommy> XB: 65535
[19:15] <XB> ty
[19:15] <Enselic> When I watch YouTube videos in fullscreen mode, the playback slows down to about 4 fps, does anyone know what I can do to improve that?
[19:15] <cirkit> candell: are you new to Ubuntu?
[19:15] <RonLu1> cirkit: I'll try to open other file. brb
[19:15] <candell> candell: yes, im super ubunew
[19:16] <BoltClock> !pendrive
[19:16] <BoltClock> !usb
[19:16] <ads_> !spandex
[19:16] <BoltClock> lol
[19:17] <ads_> ;)
[19:17] <hiptobecubic> i'm trying to save a video that's in mms. are there any apps that can do that in the repos?
[19:17] <RonLu1> cirkit: hm.... other presentation from gmail does work... I guess it file problem but why my system freezes?
[19:17] <InsomniaCity`> Why do the official Ubuntu docs reference menu options that aren't there?
[19:17] <InsomniaCity`> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/internet/C/troubleshooting.html
[19:18] <compilerwriter> !sex
[19:18] <InsomniaCity`> compilerwriter: at me?
[19:19] <compilerwriter> evidently ubottu knows something about sex.
[19:19] <BoltClock> InsomniaCity` i highly doubt it ;)
[19:19] <ads_> any way   to scale my desktop down to a size that is actually viewable (desktop size currently slightly larger )??  (diff resolutions are giving me the same problem)
[19:19] <octan21> Hello, i am trying to change the speed of my wireless adapter to 802.11b on a intel 2200 but iwconfig returns "operation not supported"
[19:19] <octan21> do any of you knows if it shoud work?
[19:19] <cirkit> RonLu1: probably the process trying to run loads to the max which causes xorg to lock up
[19:19] <compilerwriter> no InsomnisCity' I was just running with the !spandex thing
[19:19] <ads_> octan21: Ron Burgandy
[19:20] <cirkit> RonLu1: you may want to look at "dmesg" to see
[19:20] <MrLinux> If I install ebox , I have to install all the packeges ?
[19:20] <MrLinux> And ebox is like Webmin ?
[19:20] <RonLu1> cirkit: how do I do that?
[19:20] <cirkit> RonLu1: open a terminal and type dmesg
[19:20] <octan21> ? ads?
[19:20] <ads_> octan21: 90% of them time works evrytime
[19:21] <InsomniaCity`> so, any idea how I can find the device manager?
[19:21] <RonLu1> cirkit: the thing is, that I tried to open that file and the fasly closed it (forced close) but my system worked very very slow after that and I had to do restart aswell.....
[19:21] <octan21> i think that the speed is the problem
[19:21] <octan21> it solved it on a different O.S.
[19:21] <octan21> do anybody knows how to change the mode to 802.11b on an intel2200?
[19:22] <cirkit> RonLu1: ah sounds like the process is still trying to start in some way then
[19:22] <ads_> octan21: using calculus?
[19:22] <RonLu1> cirkit: sounds strange.... what should I search in dmesg?
[19:23] <cirkit> RonLu1: any errors of any kind starting from the bottom up?
[19:23] <ads_> ron burgandy told me so.. may i adjust my visible desktop size down???   all resolutions are scaling my desktop slightly larger than is viewable
[19:24] <RonLu1> cirkit: it's only about the last session isn't it?
[19:24] <sinn2df> cirkit: tried changing mose dev but no matter if i set it to auto dev, usb, ps2, imps2 there was either no cursor or mouse would not work at all.  thanks for your help though.  is there any program to help setup xorg.conf file.  i had to piece mine together from postings to beable to get monitor support.  i dont like the generic conf file generated by debconf.
[19:26] <RonLu1> cirkit: if so, I can't see the problem as I can't run anything when the file is being opened or after I close OO....
[19:26] <cirkit> RonLu1: it keeps logs not just from the last session ... but yeah the last entries in dmesg are the most current
[19:26] <cirkit> RonLu1: do you have the correct video drivers installed?
[19:26] <user_> hiptobecubic: gmimms?
[19:26] <cirkit> sinn2df: what graphics card do you have?
[19:27] <hiptobecubic> user_, yeah i found mimms, i didn't know there was a gui version. i'll look into it thanks :D
[19:27] <RonLu1> I didn't installed any video drivers.... but the nvidia restricted driver or so is active.... what it has to do with OO?
[19:27] <hiptobecubic> user_, apt-get didn't find it
[19:27] <sinn2df> also anyone know why using the nvidia driver (to get 3d support and make full use of my vid card) slows down my system to the point that it takes 2 minutes for a window or program to become active.
[19:28] <cirkit> sinn2df: X -configure
[19:28] <sinn2df> cirkit: nvidia geforce 6150 le onboard
[19:28] <user_> hiptobecubic: true, but mimms is fairly easy to use, didnt know gmimms was just an frontend..
[19:29] <hiptobecubic> user_, yeah i've got it working. mimms <options> URL <output> .   thanks for your help :D
[19:29] <user_> hiptobecubic: which mms url are you using? i'd like to test it, seems to be a nice tool
[19:30] <hiptobecubic> user_,  mms://a988.v101995.c10199.e.vm.akamaistream.net/7/988/10199/3f97c7e6/ftvigrp.download.akamai.com/10199/horsgv/regions/bfc/HD_1900_dijon_jtregional_280608.wmv
[19:30] <hiptobecubic> it's a french news cast
[19:30] <hiptobecubic> it's also big and slow. i suggest googling for a small one to test
[19:32] <candell> weird
[19:32] <jose__> hi
[19:32] <jose__> how is everybody doing here?
[19:32] <user_> hiptobecubic: cool, feel like kind of a cracker now
[19:32] <candell> chillin
[19:32] <jose__> I need some help
[19:33] <sinn2df> sorry to ask so many questions cirkit, thanks for the help.
[19:33] <jose__> I can't get my hardy to recognize the ati graphic card
[19:33] <codecowboy>  hi. i followed some instructions for compiling a wireless driver which required that I insert the module using /sbin/insmod rt2870.ko. This works. However, I would like the module to load at boot. I've tried using modprobe  to load the module but I get 'FATAL: module x cannot be found'
[19:34] <cirkit> sinn2df: backup your current xorg.conf and run nvidia-xconfig
[19:34] <greenfishx3> whats the command to update and upgrade at the same time? ive tried sudo apt-get update && upgrade, failed
[19:34] <cirkit> sinn2df: then restart once complete
[19:34] <codecowboy>  i copied the .ko file to /lib/modules/ but modprobe doesnt find it. WHat am I missing here? I;ve done a depmod -a
[19:34] <greenfishx3> nvm its solved
[19:34] <wols> codecowboy: depmod -a   after you have copied it to the proper lib/modules dir. also do not use modprobe
[19:34] <wols> use /etc/modules
[19:35] <sinn2df> ok, thanks again.
[19:35] <cirkit> sinn2df: np ;)
[19:35] <codecowboy> wols: thanks. what is the 'proper' dir?
[19:35] <testest> hi
[19:35] <wols> depends on the module. read its dochs
[19:35] <wols> *docs
[19:35] <high-freq> has anyone had problems with b43 (broadcom 431x) and wifi-radar?  doesn't seem like it wants to connect at all anymore after upgrade
[19:35] <codecowboy> wols:the docs do not say
[19:35] <sanzanric> high-freq: yes
[19:36] <high-freq> any fix?
[19:36] <codecowboy> woldthey are cr*p
[19:36] <wols> then ask whoever gave you the driver
[19:36] <high-freq> besides using ndiswrapper
[19:36] <codecowboy> wols:  they are cr*p
[19:36] <sanzanric> high-freq: sorry, but i justed used nm
[19:36] <eyeslocal> When I'm on a site with flash using FF3 occasionally FF3 will just crash and disappear. Is there a way to diagnose the problem and/or fix that?
[19:36] <testest> dude grub must installed to the first root hdd and no partition right or?
[19:36] <wols> testest: not necessarily
[19:36] <high-freq> nm?
[19:36] <webcamwonder> How do you completely restart the sound drivers and everything in Hardy?
[19:37] <codecowboy> wols: i was just using modprobe to see if adding the module to etc/modules was going to work as assumed it used modprobe
[19:37] <wols> eyeslocal: start ff3 from a terminal
[19:37] <eyeslocal> wols: giving that a try
[19:37] <testest> what wols?
[19:37] <jonathan123> hello!
[19:37] <sanzanric> high-freq: networkmanager the default manger
[19:37] <jonathan123> i have 120 pictures
[19:37] <wols> testest: it can be installed in a partition just fine if you want
[19:38] <high-freq> hmm
[19:38] <webcamwonder> How do you completely restart everything related to sound drivers in hardy?
[19:38] <cirkit> webcamwonder: /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[19:39] <jonathan123> but because i forgot to put a 00 infront of the numbers lower then 10 and a 0 infront of numbers lower than 100 the pictures are sorted very strangely in konqueror/dolphin etc...
[19:39] <jonathan123> to rename them correctly i need to sort them correctly first
[19:39] <eyeslocal> wols: well this is weird. FF3 starts up just fine but I get this in the console:
[19:39] <eyeslocal> eyeslocal@hardytaketwo:~$ firefox
[19:39] <sanzanric> high-freq: do you have wpa or something like that, or why did you decide to used wifi-radar
[19:39] <eyeslocal> Segmentation fault
[19:39] <webcamwonder> cirkit: Is the sound suppose to be this much buggy?
[19:39] <eyeslocal> eyeslocal@hardytaketwo:~$
[19:39] <FloodBot1> eyeslocal: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:39] <webcamwonder> cirkit: And that doesn't solve my problems
[19:39] <BoltClock> !pastebin | eyeslocal
[19:39] <jonathan123> but i can't find any option that gives me the oportunity to do this
[19:39] <high-freq> sanzanric: just wep
[19:39] <cirkit> webcamwonder: no ... it could be the chipset your sound card uses that is buggy
[19:40] <webcamwonder> cirkit: Intel Audio? Do you know if it is flaky?
[19:40] <cirkit> webcamwonder: what happens with it?
[19:40] <anteaya> fyi, just received an email about the launch of this wiki for those interested in FOSS: http://freeopensourcesoftware.org/index.php?title=Main_Page
[19:40] <webcamwonder> cirkit: The sound driver just dies while playing any audio
[19:40] <sanzanric> high-freq: hmm, just asking, but have you added yourself to the wifi-radar group?
[19:40] <high-freq> nope
[19:41] <webcamwonder> cirkit: After which Amarok refuses to start, and Mplayer pauses after starting a video
[19:41] <Claw6> hello i have a problem... mit wifi device isnt detected anymore in my eeepc
[19:41] <high-freq> i'll try that....brb
[19:41] <sanzanric> high-freq: that might be you problem
[19:41] <Claw6> what can i do ?
[19:41] <Erick> i typed "cat" in ternimal and now i am stuck. when i type somthing it just throws back what i just typed. any help?
[19:41] <cirkit> webcamwonder: can you check your sound preferences and make sure you are using alsa?
[19:41] <AnGeloK> Привет
[19:42] <Cpudan80> Erick: cat is just a file viewer
[19:42] <greenfishx3> should i always do purge after apt-get remove ?
[19:42] <user_> !ru | AnGeloK
[19:42] <webcamwonder> cirkit: Sure gimme a min
[19:42] <Erick> Cpudan80, i know, but im suck
[19:42] <Erick> i cant get otu
[19:42] <Cpudan80> Erick: usually used as cat someFile
[19:42] <Erick> out*
[19:42] <Cpudan80> oh
[19:42] <hiptobecubic> user_, ok now i'm looking for something to help me edit the video :D any ideas?
[19:42] <Erick> Cpudan80, i typed just cat and hit enter
[19:42] <Cpudan80> :q I think
[19:42] <eyeslocal> Erick: Ctrl-C
[19:42] <Claw6> hello i have a problem... mit wifi device isnt detected anymore in my eeepc - what can i do ?
[19:42] <Cpudan80> or maybe Ctrl-C first
[19:42] <Erick> oh
[19:42] <Erick> cool
[19:42] <webcamwonder> cirkit: You mean all the places under "Devices" in Sound?
[19:42] <Erick> thanks eyeslocal
[19:42] <user_> hiptobecubic: oh my, !multimedia is a start ;-)
[19:43] <Erick> and Cpudan80, thank you too
[19:43] <Erick> how do i use cat to create a file?
[19:43] <Cpudan80> I wouldn't
[19:43] <Cpudan80> touch fileName
[19:43] <hiptobecubic> user_, great thanks :D
[19:43] <Erick> ok
[19:43] <cirkit> webcamwonder: yeah
[19:43] <Erick> thanks again
[19:43] <sanzanric> high-freq: goto system> administration> users and groups, then unlock goto groups find the wifi-radar group then hit preferences and then check your user name
[19:43] <webcamwonder> cirkit: Ok, they are set on autodetect, force Alsa?
[19:43] <Cpudan80> Erick: to edit it - use gedit or vim
[19:43] <cirkit> webcamwonder: or pulse audio (recommended)
[19:43] <Erick> Cpudan80, i wanna use ternmial
[19:43] <greenfishx3> should i always do purge after apt-get remove ?
[19:43] <Erick> terminal*
[19:44] <webcamwonder> cirkit: PulseAudio Sound Server?
[19:44] <Claw6> hello i have a problem... mit wifi device isnt detected anymore in my eeepc - what can i do ?
[19:44] <cirkit> webcamwonder: yeah
[19:44] <Claw6> hello i have a problem... my wifi device isnt detected anymore in my eeepc - what can i do ?
[19:44] <Cpudan80> Erick: then use vim
[19:44] <cirkit> Claw6: please don't repeat yourself.
[19:44] <eyeslocal> erick: cat > filename, then once you're done hit ctrl-D to save
[19:44] <cirkit> webcamwonder: also open a terminal and type aplay -l
[19:45] <Claw6> cirkit, just fixed my letters :P
[19:45] <cirkit> see what you get
[19:45] <eyeslocal> old school *nix :)
[19:45] <webcamwonder> cirkit: Pastebin?
[19:45] <cirkit> yeah
[19:45] <webcamwonder> !pastebin | webcamwonder
[19:45] <Storrgie> anyone use 7zip?
[19:45] <eyeslocal> wols: here's what I get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23571/
[19:46] <user_> !ask | Storrgie
[19:46] <webcamwonder> cirkit: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23572/
[19:46] <Storrgie> I just installed 7zip... but i dont know how to get it to run
[19:46] <carlyn> do you have to use sudo for make install?
[19:46] <eyeslocal> Storrgie: It is a terminal app in *nix
[19:47] <Jack_Sparrow> carlyn no
[19:47] <Storrgie> eyeslocal: really? not g?
[19:47] <Storrgie> eyeslocal: hmm, guess i better move to tar.gz instead of 7z's
[19:47] <Jack_Sparrow> carlyn How to install anything in Ubuntu: http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/
[19:47] <eyeslocal> Storrgie: unfortunately only CLI
[19:47] <cirkit> webcamwonder: well it has no trouble finding your device ... as root open /etc/group and make sure audio:x:29: has your username in that group like audio:x:29:webcamwonder
[19:48] <cirkit> webcamwonder: could be a permissions issue
[19:48] <Storrgie> eyeslocal: Any archiver you would suggest?
[19:48] <gopp> what the fluxbox gui for remote desktop
[19:48] <Storrgie> eyeslocal: I really liked 7z
[19:48] <cirkit> gopp: vnc?
[19:48] <gopp> I mean for client to remote to terminal service
[19:48] <eyeslocal> Storrgie: 7z --help in terminal
[19:48] <wols> webcamwonder: run "id". what does it say?
[19:48] <gopp> rdesktop gui
[19:48] <wols> gopp: apt-cache search rdp
[19:49] <eyeslocal> it's not that hard to use, but no gui for it in nix yet
[19:49] <gopp> Wols thanks]
[19:49] <gopp> oh k
[19:49] <Storrgie> eyeslocal: what about xarchiver?
[19:49] <user_> eyeslocal: i always forget the program name 7z
[19:49] <webcamwonder> wols: A bunch of ids related to permissions? Anything specific?
[19:49] <eyeslocal> user_: yeah I hear ya. :)
[19:49] <wols> webcamwonder: paste it
[19:49] <eyeslocal> Storrgie: I still with gzip myself
[19:49] <webcamwonder> cirkit: Ok, looks like my Sound buffer just got flushed
[19:50] <webcamwonder> cirkit: Old sound went through and my driver is back up
[19:50] <Storrgie> When i use the package manager inherent to ubuntu (synaptics?) and I perform a 'remove' can I expect it to clean everything up?
[19:50] <webcamwonder> cirkit: The problem is, it happens to often, sorry for multiple lines too used to it
[19:50] <eyeslocal> anyone else have an issue with Flash crashing Firefox?
[19:50] <carlyn> Jack_Sparrow: Thanks is link good for something thats not in package manager form? version is too recent
[19:50] <DRLD> hi. is it okay to ask a few questions in here? i am having a little trouble with a memory stick reader
[19:50] <wols> DRLD: do you run ubuntu?
[19:50] <DRLD> yes
[19:51] <wols> the sure
[19:51] <wols> *then
[19:51] <DRLD> k cool
[19:51] <eyeslocal> Storrgie: if you do a 'mark for complete removal', yes
[19:51] <Jack_Sparrow> carlyn as it says.. how to install anything, from pkg to source
[19:51] <user_> eyeslocal: adobe flash yes, though not so often anymore, well only using youtube and stuff
[19:51] <Claw6> hello i have a problem... my wifi device isnt detected anymore in my eeepc - what can i do ?
[19:51] <wild_oscar> odd problem - when Hardy starts, desktop image and/or desktop icons don't show. If I logout and login again, they show
[19:51] <wild_oscar> any suggestions?
[19:51] <Storrgie> how do i do that?
[19:51] <eyeslocal> user_: exactly! it got less frequent after I installed flash 10beta but it still occurs sometimes. No fix?
[19:51] <wols> Claw6: does lspci detect it?
[19:51] <DRLD> i have a a built in magicgate memory card reader, and for some reason it doesn't automount. when i tried to mount it manually. it doesn't even pick up the card at all.
[19:52] <DRLD> any ideas on this?
[19:52] <eyeslocal> Storrgie: are you talking synaptic or aptitude/apt-get
[19:52] <wols> DRLD: you sure magicgate is supported? evil Sony DRM
[19:52] <johnkirk8719> HI EVERYONE
[19:52] <cirkit> lol
[19:53] <user_> eyeslocal: i guess no. adobe flash closed source seems to be the cuplrit, though i always though that a crashing flash instance should not have the result of a ff crash/hang necessarily
[19:53] <carlyn> Jack_Sparrow: it says in http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/#installing_with_terminal to use sudo  make install ? but you said no?
[19:53] <Storrgie> eyeslocal: I am using the 'add/remove' in the normal ubuntu UI
[19:53] <DRLD> not sure. i was using fedora for the past two months, and it was able to pick up the card reader. i would just have to find it in /dev/ and mount it manually.
[19:53] <wols> carlyn: of you do this it's almost impossible to uninstall it cleanly again
[19:53] <johnkirk8719> SO WATS EVERYONE UP TO
[19:53] <wols> also dependencies might break if it's a library
[19:53] <DRLD> i switched to ubuntu cuz it runs much cleaner
[19:53] <wols> !caps | johnkirk8719
[19:53] <carlyn> Jack_Sparrow:  it installs fine but I have to use sudo to run the installed program !
[19:53] <sanzanric> DRLD: give us the output of lsmod
[19:53] <Storrgie> ubottu: I love you
[19:53] <DRLD> k
[19:53] <johnkirk8719> I WAS WONDERIN IF ANYONE GOT ANY NOVA PARTS
[19:53] <cirkit> omg
[19:53] <eyeslocal> Storrgie: ah well switch to system>administration>synaptics package manager
[19:54] <Storrgie> johnkirk8719: I want to murder you.
[19:54] <Claw6> hello i have a problem... my wifi device isnt detected anymore in my eeepc - what can i do ?
[19:54] <wols> johnkirk8719: do you have a ubuntu related question?
[19:54] <wols> Claw6: I asked you something.
[19:54] <carlyn> wols: so developers dont use ubuntu? or ???
[19:54] <wols> !repeat Claw6
[19:54] <johnkirk8719> HEY
[19:54] <wols> !repeat | Claw6
[19:54] <DRLD> sanzaric: should i just paste it here? or in a pm?
[19:54] <eyeslocal> user_: crap. that's a tough bug to deal with
[19:54] <wols> carlyn: developers are different. you aren't one, at least not for that app
[19:54] <Claw6> no detect
[19:54] <Storrgie> !flood Johnnkirk
[19:55] <wols> !paste | DRLD
[19:55] <carlyn> wols: yes I am?
[19:55] <wild_oscar> odd problem - when Hardy starts, desktop image and/or desktop icons don't show. If I logout and login again, they show
[19:55] <sanzanric> whats up?
[19:55] <wols> carlyn: then you shouldn't need to ask
[19:55] <carlyn> wols: but obviously not the lead
[19:56] <Claw6> no theres nothing wols
[19:56] <DRLD> thnx
[19:56] <DRLD> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23575/
[19:56] <carlyn> wols: OK the dum must stay dum ... I thought it was allowed here to ask questions so you dont stay dum?
[19:56] <Pibb> Im having a problem connecting to sites, most sites works but some give a "failed to connect" error in every browser I try, and when I ping the sites it says "destination port unreachable". Like half the sites in a google search give the error
[19:56] <wols> carlyn: ubuntu related questions. and Jack_Sparrow told you the ubuntu way(tm)
[19:56] <orbisvicis> i suddenly get no images over Xvnc ... is this recent, just me etc ?
[19:56] <wols> carlyn: and the ubuntu way is the only thing you can get here
[19:57] <user_> Pibb: flaky router at home, corporate firewall, etc.?
[19:57] <orbisvicis> actually all the images are replaced by black proxies
[19:57] <definitely> Anyway to connect My Creative Zen 4 GB to Ubuntu
[19:57] <definitely>  ?
[19:58] <Pibb> user_: it works fine on XP
[19:58] <Storrgie> suggestion please -- I am thinking of using an email client with my gmail, should i use evolution or thunderbird?
[19:58] <asd__> hi
[19:58] <wols> Storrgie: any mail client works
[19:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Storrgie thunderbird
[19:58] <user_> Pibb: could be a router problem then, are you on wifi?
[19:58] <wols> definitely: plug it in. if it's a mass storage device it will work
[19:58] <Storrgie> Jack_Sparrow: the reason i was thinking thunderbird was that it is cross platform...
[19:58] <DRLD> Storrgie: thunderbirdis is nice
[19:58] <definitely> wols: Nothing does for me :(
[19:59] <Storrgie> DRLD: thanks
[19:59] <Pibb> user_: no, im just connected to my cable modem
[19:59] <wols> definitely: plug it in and pastebin your dmesg output
[19:59] <DRLD> thunderbird*
[19:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Storrgie and set it up using imap so you can pull your email from any pc and not lose them from the server until you specifically want to remove them
[19:59] <Storrgie> awesome, which thing thing do i nab in synaptics
[20:00] <definitely> wols: what is dmesg ?
[20:00] <wols> definitely: a command
[20:00] <eyeslocal> Storrgie: depends on what you're trying to uninstall
[20:00] <Storrgie> Jack_Sparrow: can I install thunderbird through synaptics?
[20:01] <cirkit> Storrgie: yes
[20:01] <user_> Pibb: hmm, i dont have much of a clue, sorry, thats the only hint i could give so far: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE#Error%20logs
[20:01] <eyeslocal> Storrgie: hit search and type thunder
[20:01] <webcamwonder> cirkit: Under Default Mixer, what is recommended?
[20:01] <definitely> wols: http://pastebin.com/d49d1e38b
[20:02] <cirkit> webcamwonder: what are your options?
[20:02] <eyeslocal> hmm... how well is directx working in qemu/kvm?
[20:02] <K`zan_emc> Argh, anyone know what CUPS is looking for for a login / password on the 6.06 EMC distro.  Neigher root nor myself works :-( and of course no help from CUPS :-(
[20:02] <eyeslocal> because it's pretty much not working at all with virtualbox :(
[20:03] <webcamwonder> cirkit: My Audio device (Alsa) & Realtek (don't know where this came from) (OSS Mixer) & Playback: My device (Pulse Audio) & Other capture mixers...
[20:03] <user_> eyeslocal: maybe #qemu..
[20:04] <kvik_> HI How can i see what IP's my DHCP server send's out to my workstations?
[20:04] <Pibb> user_: i'll look at that, thanks
[20:04] <eyeslocal> user_: good idea, thanks
[20:05] <cirkit> webcamwonder: make sure its your audio device like intel-hda and not realtek ... I'd recommend using Pulse Audio
[20:05] <esac> my ntfs directories show up with a green background in terminals. my ext3 ones do not. how can i fix the ntfs ones to look like ext3 ?
[20:05] <Sitting_Duck> Hi all. I have a gateway laptop that I just moved to Hardy Heron, and I can't get the wireless working. It's a realtek 8185 chipset, and I'm using ndiswrapper with the windows 98 drivers people have recommended in various forums, but no luck. ifconfig doesn't show the nic. Any thoughts?
[20:05] <Carpe|Diem> Marianiita IS A SPAMMER
[20:05] <Carpe|Diem> Marianiita AUTO PM'S PEOPLE that enter here
[20:05] <kvik_> HI all, How can i see what IP's my DHCP server send's out to my workstations?
[20:06] <webcamwonder> cirkit: Playback: ALSA PCM on front:0 (Intel ...) via DMA (PulseAudio Mixer)? Sound right?
[20:06] <Alexander> Hey, I had a corrupted install of ubuntu, so I resized partitions using Knoppix and installed Ubuntu on another partition so I could copy from the old to the new, how can I remove the first install?
[20:06] <cirkit> webcamwonder: select alsa master on front if possible
[20:07] <cirkit> webcamwonder: but yeah thats how I have mine setup
[20:07] <eyeslocal> esac: change your alias for ls, and configure the --color switch differently
[20:07] <webcamwonder> cirkit: I don't get a front option in Alsa
[20:07] <esac> eyeslocal, where is this set ?
[20:07] <cirkit> webcamwonder: PCM should be fine
[20:08] <eyeslocal> esac: type alias in a term
[20:08] <webcamwonder> cirkit: Thank you very much for your help!
[20:08] <InsomniaCity`> Hi! I installed some ndiswrapper+driver for my wireless card, but now my wired card stopped working, and appears at "Illegal Vendor ID" in lshw
[20:08] <cirkit> webcamwonder: np ;)
[20:08] <Alexander> Hey, I had a corrupted install of ubuntu, so I resized partitions using Knoppix and installed Ubuntu on another partition so I could copy from the old to the new, how can I remove the first install?
[20:08] <InsomniaCity`> Is there any way I can make that work again?
[20:08] <wols> definitely: [12248.726497] usb 1-1.4: not running at top speed; connect to a high speed hub
[20:08] <wols> !info gnomad
[20:08] <wols> !info gnomad2
[20:08] <eyeslocal> esac: oh wait that's just to enable colors. what you need is to change your LS_COLORS environmental variable. Type dircolors in a term
[20:09] <user_> kvik_: looking at /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server it could be /var/lib/dhcp3/dhcpd.leases
[20:09] <wols> definitely: and install gnomad2
[20:09] <Drod> hi Alenxander, I would guess that gparted can help you erase the partition with the bad ubuntu isntall
[20:09] <esac> eyeslocal, ah i see that one, but any idea which one is the one i want ?
[20:09] <definitely> wols: ok.. so need to connect to directly USB >?
[20:09] <Alexander> drod: I just erase the old partition?
[20:09] <wild_oscar> hey guys - my desktop icons disappear on every ubuntu boot
[20:09] <wild_oscar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5280922#post5280922
[20:09] <definitely> wols: not usb router
[20:09] <definitely>  ?
[20:09] <kvik_> user i'll do
[20:09] <Alexander> drod: I don't have to modify GRUB or anything else?
[20:09] <eyeslocal> esac: not really :P
[20:09] <esac> lol :)
[20:09] <wild_oscar> if anyone knows how to solve this issue or knows of a similar issue, can you please post a solution in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5280922#post5280922 ?
[20:10] <Drod> Alexander, not to my knowledge, but to modify the disk you boot with, you need to log in with the Gparted LiveCD (ie you cannot resize a disk you have mounted)
[20:10] <user_> kvik_: also try #ubuntu-server
[20:10] <Drod> Alexander, so, how does your grub menu looks like now? you see both installs?
[20:11] <Alexander> Drod, Yes
[20:11] <Xazax> hi! i have some trouble with my internet under ubuntu. I have an usb adsl modem and i can't connect to internet. Yesterday everything worked well without any driver or setup or configuration
[20:11] <Drod> grub is just a list to locations, you can always open it in "notepad" and erase the references to the bad one...but to be honest, lets wait for a more experienced guy
[20:12] <Alexander> I'll just take a look in nano or something, just to see what I'm dealing with
[20:12] <Alexander> Thanks for your help Drod
[20:14] <sofiankrt> how do I store a scripts pid as a variable in the script itself when it is run?
[20:14]  * wols puts definitely on ignore for PMing
[20:14] <plouffe> Hi what file contains the settings for what java version is used on my computer? (hardy heron)
[20:14] <definitely> wols: The same..
[20:14] <definitely> Nothing changed..
[20:15] <definitely> Anyone can help me with Creative Zen ? :S
[20:15] <Dream> im back ^^
[20:15] <sofiankrt> I'm running this script many times
[20:15] <netcrash> "invalid or unsupported executable format" <- this error while botting linux may be related to a bad kernel package ?
[20:15] <napopa> sofiankrt, what about VAR=`pidof script-name`
[20:15] <Dream> Busybox has apeared upon startup, what do i do?
[20:15] <sofiankrt> and I need each one to store its own vip
[20:15] <dr_Willis> sofiankrt,  you may want to check the advanced bash scripting guide for examples.
[20:15] <cirkit> plouffe: java -version
[20:15] <dr_Willis> !abs
[20:16] <kaizener> hi room
[20:16] <sofiankrt> napopa: that would return many pids if I'm running this script multiple times
[20:16] <plouffe> thanks
[20:16] <dr_Willis> sofiankrt,  running it many times.. is going to have many different pids..
[20:16] <sofiankrt> dr_Willis: exactly
[20:17] <sofiankrt> dr_Willis: so, for example
[20:17] <dr_Willis> sofiankrt,  thats how any program works.
[20:17] <sofiankrt> dr_Willis: if I run it now
[20:17] <sofiankrt> dr_Willis: it returns its current pid
[20:17] <kaizener> my network settings are changing after some time.Do u know anything about this issue?
[20:17] <wuxia> does anyone ahve experience using usb-dvi devices under linux?
[20:17] <sofiankrt> dr_Willis: it's for sofiankrt.infinites.net/bin/track
[20:18] <leprasmurf> For anyone interested, I just installed firefox and flash via wine, which does not suffer from the arrow key bug:-D
[20:18] <sofiankrt> dr_Willis: the problem I'm facing is that if I run the same script for multiple contacts, when one logs out all of them will get the sigterm
[20:18] <jc_> I mounted a fireware hfs+ drive and changed the mounting  setting from the gui, now the disk won't mount, how can I change it back to what it was?
[20:18] <eyeslocal> leprasmurf: arrow key bug?
[20:18] <Xazax> i have some trouble with my internet under ubuntu. I have an adsl modem and i can't connect to internet. Yesterday everything worked well without any driver or setup or configuration. Connection information says 0.0.0.0 for all of the addresses. Any idea what to do?
[20:19] <DRLD> anyone else have a magic gate drive that doesn't work?
[20:19] <Alestan> I was wondering if anyone could help me change the resolution on my computer, I just upgraded to 8.04, and I can't adjust it anymore.
[20:19] <DRLD> or one that does work
[20:19] <DRLD> heh
[20:19] <Dream> doobeedoo, Magnetron/
[20:19] <msinani> amater
[20:19] <magnetron> Dream: you need to elaborate on your problem description, it's hard to work out what's wrong from the info you provided
[20:19] <leprasmurf> eyeslocal: yeah, I love the flash games, and used one howto to get rid of a audio problem which included going up to flash 10.  that seemed to of broken the arrow keys or functions called by the arrow keys
[20:20] <K`zan_emc> Thanks anyway folks, copying the file to a CD and walking it over worked :-)!
[20:20] <sofiankrt> dr_Willis: any ideas?
[20:20] <msinani> i dont and
[20:20] <leprasmurf> eyeslocal: I did some googling, there's even a adobe jira on it for linux and ff3
[20:20] <cbones> help...... i can't seem to get my true mobile 1300 mini pci wireless  driver to download
[20:20] <Dream> >_< lol, well, basicly, i turned on my computer got dual boot, selected ubuntu, everything fine, get loading screen and lo-an-behold Busybox was there
[20:21] <dr_Willis> sofiankrt,  not really, not clear on what you are doing. I would say check that ABS guide for examples of catching the signals.   or there may be some other better way to do what you are trying to do.
[20:21] <eyeslocal> leprasmurf: I had flash probs and went to flash10 as well, but my arrow keys seem to function fine. However, FF still crashes sometimes on a flash page... which I can't seem to fix
[20:21] <wuxia> anone have expericnce with usb-dvi devices under ubuntu ?
[20:21] <dr_Willis> wuxia,  you mean like a usb -> video monitor device?
[20:22] <user_> sofiankrt: #bash has excellent FAQs in their channel topic
[20:22] <wuxia> dr_willis yep
[20:22] <sofiankrt> dr_Willis: I am catching the signal, my problem is that if I run multiple instances of the script, all of them will catch the signal
[20:22] <magnetron> Dream: If you boot in recovery mode, it will show you the errors that lead to a failure to boot.
[20:22] <Dream> ok, and i do that how?
[20:22] <Jack_Sparrow> magnetron dream was told that an hour ago
[20:22] <Alestan> Is there any way to use the old config program, I think it was called "screens and graphics" under the latest version of ubuntu?
[20:23] <magnetron> Jack_Sparrow: i see.
[20:23] <Dream> also, jack i didnt see that
[20:23] <dr_Willis> sofiankrt,  sounds like a rather advanced bash topic. Ive not had to mess with that aspect of bash. so cant help.
[20:23] <Lynet> Dream: Is this a fresh install? Did it work earlier? Did you move disks around? Does it work if you try to boot with an older kernel?
[20:23] <magnetron> Dream: it's in the list when you boot up. it's labelled "recovery mode"
[20:23] <Dream> it worked 3 days ago, i went for a weekend break, get back and WHACK
[20:23] <Dream> it didnt offer recovery mode...
[20:24] <sofiankrt> dr_Willis: I'll try asking in #bash, my email address is on the website if you want to contact me
[20:24] <user_> sofiankrt: #bash has excellent FAQs in their channel topic
[20:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Dream You responded and I told you it should have been the second option under yuour normal ubuntu boot in grub and to try startx at the cli..  No I guess we never had that conversation
[20:24] <Dream> ive got a dual boot, and it says nothing of recovery
[20:24] <dr_Willis> sofiankrt,  that url timed out. :)
[20:24] <cbones> I'm trying to get thing to work for my son  who is home on leave so he can take it with him when he goes back
[20:24] <sofiankrt> dr_Willis: lol, sofiankrt@gmail.com
[20:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Dream It does not say recovery
[20:24] <Dream> no it doesnt
[20:24] <magnetron> Dream: do you see several of the options labelled "ubuntu"? some of them are labelled "recovery"
[20:24] <dr_Willis> sofiankrt,  it may be bash is not the best tool for the job in this case. :)
[20:24] <leprasmurf> eyeslocal: it must be an intermittent problem, otherwise it'd have more attention
[20:24] <Jack_Sparrow> magnetron he is all yours..
[20:25] <sofiankrt> user_: it's advanced bash, I don't think it will be on the faq, but I'll check anyway. thanks
[20:25] <user_> sofiankrt: you dont know what simple and advanced is
[20:25] <Dream> ok, lets see, im at the dual boot menu, win XP, ubuntu *choses ubuntu*
[20:25] <InforMed> HI! Is there anyway to make pulseaudio use micro jack as a second headphone jack??? On windows I can make that using realtek software! Thanks
[20:25] <magnetron> Dream: are you using wubi?
[20:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Dream What other option do you have in that menu.. and is this a wubi install or anything other than a real install
[20:26] <Dream> i used it to install, "press esc to enter menu" never done it, *presses esc*
[20:26] <eyeslocal> leprasmurf: completely intermittent, and occurs less for me now that i'm using flash10, with flash9 it was 1:3 times
[20:26] <magnetron> !who | Dream
[20:26] <Dream> ok, i see a list... :O recovery
[20:26] <sofiankrt> user_: no need to get aggressive!
[20:26] <eyeslocal> leprasmurf: but user_ here has the same issue so at least I know I'm not the only one!
[20:26] <Dream> !tab
[20:26] <cbones> help!!!!!!
[20:27] <cirkit> cbones: ?
[20:27] <wolfrat> hi all
[20:27] <aoupi>  I'm downloading a bunch of pdfs an they are named like http://blaha.com/name/01.pdf the links are all in a list that I
[20:27] <cbones> yes cirkit
[20:27] <Dream> magentron: ok, got a list offers recoverys,
[20:27] <aoupi> download with 'wget -i list' how do I make wget save the files as name-01.pdf?
[20:27] <cirkit> cbones: help with what?
[20:27] <sofiankrt> dr_Willis: thanks anyway, bye
[20:27] <leprasmurf> eyeslocal: well, I'm happy with my little work around anyway:-)
[20:27] <jeanseb> hi
[20:27] <Dream> magentron: there are 4 options
[20:27] <leprasmurf> eyeslocal: of course, not as fast as native, but useable
[20:28] <jeanseb> I need to buld java 1.6.10beta
[20:28] <cbones> i'm trying to get my true moble 1300 mini pci    wireless driver download
[20:28] <magnetron> Dream: choose the one with the highest version number.
[20:28] <jeanseb> package , but make-jpkg dont do the job
[20:28] <Dream> magentron:wait, 5, but they're the same kernel
[20:28] <cirkit> cbones: and you're unable to download it or?
[20:28] <wolfrat> am having a small problem with apache. I installed lamp using taskel in ubuntu 8 (desktop edition), but "Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at 127.0.0.1.". I've installed apache from source on this same computer a few times, but I think I removed it =/ what can I do now?
[20:28] <jeanseb> I've corrected the plugin shell script to use the make it accept the bin file but no web plugin
[20:28] <Dream> magentron: the highest option recovery?
[20:28] <cbones> i've tried but it dosen't seem to be working
[20:29] <jeanseb> anybody may help ?
[20:29] <magnetron> Dream: yes. and please stop misspelling my name :D
[20:29] <cirkit> cbones: please elaborate a little ... what are you doing exactly and how?
[20:30] <andypls1> guys, how can i make it such that when i run "something" in conlose, "/home/me/something" is executed?
[20:30] <Dream> magnetron: (used copy paste, easier than wierd commands) anyway, its error code 15
[20:30] <perkins> For some reason, when I use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg it doesn't let me reconfigure the display, only the keyboard/mouse setup, any ideas what to do about it?
[20:30] <cbones> i started out with wget http://bu3sch.de/b43/fwcutter/b43-fwcutter-011.tar.bz2
[20:31] <magnetron> Dream: *what* gives error code 15? grub?
[20:31] <Dream> magnetron: no idea XD
[20:31] <cirkit> cbones: no problems here wget'ing that file
[20:31] <Dream> magnetron: *picks out key points*, operating system crash
[20:32] <magnetron> Dream: did you use the recovery option with the *highest* version number?
[20:32] <Dream> magnetron: yes, they where all the same
[20:32] <magnetron> Dream: no, they are not
[20:32] <Dream> magnetron: kernel number was the same
[20:33] <Dream> magnetron: really was, i looked down the list of 5 several times,
[20:33] <cbones> i use this step next  tar xjf b43-fwcutter-011.tar.bz2
[20:33] <annie_g> What would be a correct shell for "devinfo" for Ubuntu ?
[20:33] <plouffe> Does anyone use solfege? I installed it, but it crashes every time I try to start it from the menu. I had the same problem with istanbul.
[20:34] <Dream> magnetron: erm, im going to follow the instructions after i take note XD
[20:34] <plouffe> the window shows up for a second, then poofff
[20:34] <cbones> then cd b43-fwcutter-011
[20:34] <magnetron> Dream: they are NOT the same version. look at the last number, after the dash (-)
[20:34] <cbones> make
[20:34] <cbones> cd
[20:34] <annie_g> Would like a list of devices.... ?
[20:34] <Dream> magnetron: was the same
[20:34] <Dream> magnetron: im not joking, it really was
[20:34] <perkins> I would try back later, they are busy with their own trouble,
[20:34] <cbones> then comes the firmware that is were my problem starts
[20:35] <magnetron> Dream: you have SEVERAL kernels labelled "recovery" with the SAME version number?
[20:35] <annie_g> Shell command used for Devie Info ? ?
[20:35] <Dream> magnetron: yes
[20:35] <magnetron> annie_g: lspci is common
[20:35] <annie_g> Device ?
[20:35] <cbones>  export FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR=”/lib/firmware”
[20:35] <cbones> wget http://downloads.openwrt.org/sources/broadcom-wl-4.80.53.0.tar.bz2
[20:35] <cbones> tar xjf broadcom-wl-4.80.53.0.tar.bz2
[20:35] <cbones> cd broadcom-wl-4.80.53.0/kmod
[20:35] <cbones> ../../b43-fwcutter-011/b43-fwcutter -w “$FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR” wl_apsta.o
[20:35] <FloodBot1> cbones: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:35] <annie_g> magnetron: Thank you...
[20:35] <cbones> sorry this his wife
[20:36] <Dream> magnetron: ok, i ran the highest one
[20:36] <cbones> nothing works
[20:36] <cbones> i still have no wireless
[20:37] <annie_g> magnetron: That works for me - thanks again.... :o)
[20:37] <magnetron> Dream: now, i didn't really catch your answer: Did you install ubuntu using Wubi?
[20:37] <cirkit> cbones: please look at the last post http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/problem-with-b43-fwcutter-on-hardy-heron-638375/
[20:37] <magnetron> annie_g: you're welcome.
[20:37] <Dream> magnetron: yes i installed with wubi
[20:38] <Illuzionz> Hello
[20:38] <magnetron> Dream: it seems like someone has removed the file where ubuntu is stored (or moved it, or renamed it)
[20:38] <Dream> magnetron: nope, no one touched my computer for 3 days
[20:38] <hoonteke> so I finally got my nvidia drivers working, but now I only have one resolution for my laptop (1280x800), which is it's correct max resolution.  However, I have various reasons for needing to switch to other resolutions.  How can I can get the other resolutions back?
[20:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Dream Wubi is not a good long term solution..  Advised only for testing how it works on your hardware
[20:39] <magnetron> Dream: somehow, it's damaged. it's hard for me to work out how or why.
[20:39] <hiptobecubic> i'm happy to report that i haven't found ONE functional piece of video editing software available for linux.
[20:39] <Dream> magnetron: "run chkdsk /r in windows"
[20:39] <cirkit> hiptobecubic: congratulations
[20:39] <magnetron> hiptobecubic: please share the name of it
[20:40] <hoonteke> hiptobecubic: that can't be right.  Linux Journal just did a comparison of video editing software
[20:40] <Dream> magnetron: basicly what im bieng told to do, so im going to do that ^^
[20:40] <cbones> ok
[20:40] <hiptobecubic> Perhaps you misread.
[20:40] <the_eraser> hi is there an easy way to remove unused configuration files?
[20:40] <Leefmc> Question: I know there is somethin, but i can't find the name. Is there something to make your multiple desktops share 1 continuous background?
[20:40] <hiptobecubic> hoonteke, i'm goign to look it up, becase i'm having absolutely no luck at all.
[20:40] <magnetron> hiptobecubic: oh, i thought you said that you were happy
[20:40] <hiptobecubic> If only VLC could crop and save :D
[20:41] <cirkit> hiptobecubic: please look into ffmpeg, thanks.
[20:41] <eyeslocal> hoonteke: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and edit the monitor section
[20:41] <sofiankrt> dr_Willis: they totally ignored me!
[20:41] <sofiankrt> dr_Willis: couldn't find anything
[20:42] <Dream> magnetron: microsoft feels wierd on this computer now >_<, just thaught i'd add it ^^
[20:42] <eyeslocal> hiptobecubic: go to studioubuntu.org and look at the packages. OpenSourceEditor was a pretty good one, if I recall
[20:42] <Blaqlight> wine is already up to 1.1.0?
[20:42] <Blaqlight> geez.
[20:43] <eyeslocal> already? It took >10 years! :)
[20:43] <hoonteke> hiptobecubic: Video Editors from Linux Journal's article (March, 2008)
[20:43] <Blaqlight> I completely missed 1.0...
[20:43] <wayne^^> since 1994
[20:43] <magnetron> Dream: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#head-7e4c85ef744a4fd4bae6766a5e6abc67f608d742
[20:44] <hoonteke> KDENLive (KDE Non-Linear Video Editor)
[20:44] <hoonteke> OpenMovieEditor
[20:44] <hoonteke> Blender
[20:44] <eyeslocal> openmovieeditor, that was it!
[20:44] <sofiankrt> dr_Willis: when I run track &, I get a pid. any chance I can save that pid and kill that exact process using it?
[20:45] <Jack_Sparrow> sofiankrt This is not a programming channel
[20:45] <eyeslocal> sofiankrt: track | sudo kill
[20:45] <eyeslocal> ah n/m that won't work
[20:46] <eyeslocal> didn't read the question correctly :P
[20:46] <sofiankrt> Jack_Sparrow: sorry, but no one is answering in #bash, can you suggest somewhere else?
[20:46] <eyeslocal> pgrep track | sudo kill
[20:46] <eyeslocal> that should do it
[20:46] <sofiankrt> eyeslocal: thanks, I'll try it
[20:47] <Jack_Sparrow> sofiankrt Patience in #bash or the abs-guide
[20:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !find abs
[20:47] <cbones> ok thank
[20:47] <hoonteke> hiptobecubic: Summary: KDENLive is nicer with eye candy and layout and preferences, but OpenMovieEditor is rock solid and works with any (opensource) codec, and Blender has a high learning curve because it's oriented toward the professional.  The latter two are beginning to push the mold, and KDENLive is hoped to do similar soon, given the competition.
[20:47] <eyeslocal> Jack_Sparrow: we don't answer bash questions here?
[20:48] <hoonteke> I tried all three with Gutsy, and they all three at least ran.  But I didn't do much anything fancy, just open a couple of test videos and see what effects and stuff I could do.
[20:48] <Jack_Sparrow> eyeslocal This is a support channel for ubuntu... programming have their own channels
[20:48] <sofiankrt> eyeslocal: not working, it's redirecting me to the help file
[20:48] <hiptobecubic> hoonteke, openmovieeditor almost worked. until i tried to save a project, preview the video, or encode anything. then it would crash without saving :-/ i'm reading the linjournal aritcle
[20:49] <sofiankrt> eyeslocal: http://sofiankrt.infinites.net/bin/track
[20:49] <sofiankrt> eyeslocal: that's the script
[20:49] <eyeslocal> sofiankrt: priv chat
[20:49] <hoonteke> eyeslocal: edit my Monitor section?  To what?
[20:49] <sofiankrt> eyeslocal: ok
[20:49] <Jack_Sparrow> eyeslocal If someone is trying to run a bash script.. no problem.. if you are trying to write or edit one.. there are other channels
[20:50] <definitely> Maybe anyone know a command, when you type in and ip, you get info about that ip and what os he is running
[20:50] <definitely>  ?
[20:51] <the_eraser> anyone know an easy way to remove unused configuration files?
[20:51] <AJC_Z0> definitely: nmap -O
[20:52] <the_eraser> it doesnt have to be easy btw
[20:52] <AJC_Z0> (but don't scan hosts you don't own)
[20:52] <user_> sofiankrt: maybe $$ can help you
[20:52] <H__> what program can show 'Kodak Photo CD image' ?
[20:52] <AJC_Z0> H__: xv can. Let me know where you find a package of it
[20:52] <cbones> now i need to install my broadcom firmware
[20:52] <cirkit> the_eraser: open a terminal, change to the directory where your file is located that you want to remove and run the "rm" command, so "rm /path/to/config/file"
[20:53] <H__> (kuickshow and gimp and dolphin and konqueror do not).
[20:53] <user_> poor guy
[20:53] <H__> AJC_Z0 ah, i was looking for xv, was not installed
 Thnx
[20:53] <AJC_Z0> Where in the Gnome config maze do I change the applications opened by media changes (CD, DVD, etc.)?
[20:53] <user_> vtw $$ doesnt mean money, its a placeholder in bash programming, man bash
[20:53] <the_eraser> cirkit: but i dont know which folders belong to uninstalled packages :/
[20:53] <user_> btw $$ doesnt mean money, its a placeholder in bash programming, man bash
[20:54] <the_eraser> the /home quickly get filled with obscure configurations
[20:54] <cirkit> the_eraser: if you uninstall a package, it's own directories and what not are also removed.
[20:55] <annie_g> Anyone know of a good tutorial or resource for using or learning Shell Scripting - Specifically in Ubuntu ? ? ?
[20:55] <Jack_Sparrow> annie_g sudo apt-get install abs-guide
[20:55] <rramalho> hi ppl
[20:55] <ompaul> !cli | annie_g
[20:55] <cbones> cirkit thank i got the b43-fwcutter install
[20:55] <annie_g> Did some google searches but maybe not looking up correctly.
[20:56] <cirkit> cbones: great ;)
[20:56] <ompaul> annie_g, it is a step to know some commands after that you get to doing some regx in bash
[20:56] <cbones> i need to install the broadcom firmware now right
[20:56] <cirkit> yes
[20:56] <cbones> ok can you help me
[20:56] <H__> AJC_Z0 good that i have a freebsd box around then ;-)
[20:57] <stick_> is it possible to setup a dual monitor setup with an integrated card and a pci card?
[20:57] <cirkit> cbones: I don't have the manual / instructions for that broadcom as I don't use one ... there should be a README file when you tar xjvf the .bz2 file I'm sure which should explain how to install the firmware
[20:57] <cbones> ok
[20:58] <stick_> all i need is a yes or no answer if its possible ill find out how myself but if its not i dont wanna waste anymore time on it
[20:58] <user_> annie_g: shell scripting features are not bound to ubuntu. bash f.e. is a fairly stable program and hasn't changed much in the last 15 years. you may pick any reference. i recommend using older ones, cause they tend not being bloated
[20:59] <Ring-0> pozz
[20:59] <annie_g> Jack_Sparrow: I just installed the abs-guide - you suggested - Is this a GUI user guide ? or Tool? Can't seem to locate yet - or something I need to learn or run in Terminal?
[21:00] <Jack_Sparrow> annie_g one sec, they are htm files..
[21:01] <annie_g> user_: So any good tutorial or something on "Bash" would be a good start ?
[21:01] <annie_g> Jack_Sparrow: Ok
[21:01] <WhoaTotalWipeout> annie_g: The Advanced Bash Scripting guide is a good read for learning Bash scripting.
[21:02] <Ring-0> is there any chance soon for S-Video tv-out working out of the box on Ubuntu?
[21:02] <WhoaTotalWipeout> annie_g: But if you're totally new to it than www.linuxsurvival.com is extremely useful.
[21:02] <user_> annie_g: yes, "bash for beginners" or "bash cheat sheet", something along those lines
[21:02] <Ring-0> without messing with xorg.conf
[21:02] <Jack_Sparrow> annie_g /usr/share/doc/abs-guide/html/index
[21:02] <cirkit> annie_g: please take the time to read http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html
[21:02] <annie_g> WhoaTotalWipeout: This script will be ok in general for Ubuntu - ?
[21:03] <annie_g> user_: THanks
[21:03] <Dream> afk, food, report back in 1 hour
[21:03] <benny269> what's the best way to unzip multiple rar files into 1 video file?
[21:03] <annie_g> WhoaTotalWipeout: THanks much....
[21:03] <WhoaTotalWipeout> annie_g: Advanced Bash Scripting guide is only if you really want the full power of bash in your hands - if you want to know the absolute basics, than www.linuxsurvival.com is your best bet
[21:04] <cirkit> benny269: open a terminal and type "unrar e file1.rar"
[21:04] <benny269> cirkit: will that mean the subsequent files will unzip also?
[21:04] <WhoaTotalWipeout> benny269: I'd just open the first archive in the series with file-roller and extract normally.
[21:04] <stick_> so does anybody have a response for me?
[21:04] <cirkit> benny269: yes
[21:04] <annie_g> Kool - you all are here to help - appreciate it much... Like to learn it all.......
[21:05] <WalloO> stick_, yes, it'S possigble using xinerama
[21:05] <stick_> thank you
[21:05] <WhoaTotalWipeout> Can anybody tell me why two updates from security.ubuntu.com regarding openssl aren't downloading?
[21:05] <Ring-0> Whoa - try changing server
[21:05] <WalloO> stick_, setup your two cards. Then add xinerama parameter. You must have both card with the same bitdepth
[21:06] <annie_g> WhoaTotalWipeout: Like you're name - reminds me of old surfing days - smile
[21:06] <the_eraser> cirkit: but it is written: By default, apt will not remove configuration files,
[21:07] <cirkit> the_eraser: right, those are regular text configuration files, not directories.
[21:08] <cirkit> the_eraser: if you don't want the config file either, 'rm' it
[21:08] <the_eraser> well.. ok
[21:08] <WhoaTotalWipeout> annie_g: Heh, thanks. I do this wicked style of saying "whoooaaaaaa - toootaal wiiipeeoooutt" just like some sort of surfer dude : P
[21:08] <WalloO> is lmsensor actually reporting ati (AMD) GPU temperature?
[21:09] <AJC_Z0> annie_g: The shell (and there are several in the two families - Bourne and C) is your primary interface to any unix system. If you like books, O'Reily's "UNIX Power Tools" is an excellent choice for increasing your shell and toolset skills
[21:09] <WhoaTotalWipeout> AJC_Z0: There's also the Korn shell, don't forget that
[21:10] <WhoaTotalWipeout> AJC_Z0: Though security vulnerabilities were detected in the C shell...
[21:10] <AJC_Z0> One thing to bear in mind is that while bash is ubiquitous on Linux systems and common on many other unix platforms, it is not on every system
[21:10] <AJC_Z0> WhoaTotalWipeout: Note that I said "families". Ksh is in the Bourne family
[21:10] <Myrtti> !info abs-guide | annie_g
[21:11] <WhoaTotalWipeout> AJC_Z0: Aye, that's true. But it's the most common shell, seeing as it's highly compatible with the Bourne shell on most proprietary UNIX systems.
[21:11] <WalloO> AJC_Z0, hmmm but not everybody use exotic systems....
[21:11] <WalloO> !ati
[21:12] <AJC_Z0> WhoaTotalWipeout: It is the only standard shell (ksh93, specifically) across unix platforms. POSIX, that is
[21:12] <WhoaTotalWipeout> AJC_Z0: And now you're just being fancy :P
[21:12] <WalloO> anybody has an ati/AMD video card here?<
[21:12] <AJC_Z0> and a very powerful scripting shell it is, too. Not so friendly on the command line, though
[21:13] <WhoaTotalWipeout> Anybody know why two updates from security.ubuntu.com are turning out to be 404?
[21:13] <cirkit> WhoaTotalWipeout: the servers are down
[21:13] <WhoaTotalWipeout> cirkit: No, I just went on security.ubuntu.com and most of the other packages are there.
[21:15] <chowder> i started a thread on the forums and no one has answered. Anyone care to give it a shot? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=841685
[21:16] <unop> chowder, did you bind-mount /dev, /proc and /sys into the chroot ?
[21:17] <chowder> unop: yea, but that's no longer the problem
[21:17] <chowder> unop: see last post---> http://pastebin.com/m220513d7
[21:18] <annie_g> Jack_Sparrow: Where do run - " /usr/share/doc/abs-guide/html/index " ? ?
[21:18] <annie_g> Jack_Sparrow: In Terminal?
[21:19] <AlNahar> HI FRIENDS
[21:19] <AlNahar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=229559
[21:19] <amenado> annie_g-> thats most likely an html file. so you can put that entire link in a browser preceeded by   file:///
[21:19] <AlNahar> i am confused, how do i use that driver that is mentioned in solution 1?
[21:19] <Jack_Sparrow> annie_g use nautilus or thunar to browse to that folder and double click it
[21:20] <unop> chowder, well, let me ask again, are /proc, /sys and /dev mounted in the chroot -- not having them mounted properly could be the cause for dbus failing to start properly
[21:20] <khajavi> HELP: How can I run Xserver via chroot?
[21:21] <Blaqlight> my java seems to be broken. how might I fix it.
[21:21] <khajavi> Blaqlight: sudo apt-get install -f
[21:21] <theclaw> hi
[21:22] <chowder> unop: I'll check if they're mounted, I could've made a mistake :p
[21:22] <Blaqlight> whats with the -f switch?
[21:22] <unop> khajavi, as you would normally do -- startx  -- but no other x servers should be running
[21:22] <annie_g> Jack_Sparrow: Will need to install Thunar? Not sure how run in Nautilus too....
[21:22] <Jack_Sparrow> annie_g any file manager will work
[21:23] <chowder> unop: it was mounted incorrectly, ty
[21:23] <khajavi> unop: can I run two xserver?
[21:23] <unop> chowder, yw
[21:23] <unop> khajavi, no
[21:23] <annie_g> Jack_Sparrow: Which do you like ? Installing Thunar right now...?
[21:23] <gringo> ehlo@all, this is my first time setting up a mailserver, I've been working on this for several days now and went through several howtos, basically I got everything setup -> postfix combined with dovecot(maildir|ssl/tls) however, now I am stuck on getting sasl setup so I can actually send mails through evolution. I realyl hope someone can help me here, because the users in #ubuntu.de remain clueless or don't want to talk...
[21:23] <chowder> unop: it's working fine now. but once I exit the chroot will /dev /proc and /sys return to normal?
[21:24] <Jack_Sparrow> annie_g I like the lighter feel of thunar but to each their own
[21:24] <crablouse> just installed 8.04 hardy heron. However sound does not work while playing youtube videos. Does anyone know how to correct this?
[21:24] <user_> gringo: you may also ask in #ubuntu-server
[21:24] <hvgotcodes> hey i have noscripts/ firebug in firefox3 and i can't access my email
[21:25] <unop> khajavi, well, you might be able to get the second x server to start on a new display -- but you really shouldnt need to do that, graphical applications in the chroot will be able to use the already running X server as long as you have /proc, /dev and /sys mounted in the chroot
[21:25] <hvgotcodes> i mean my gmail
[21:25] <unop> chowder, those file systems will be mounted so long as you don't unmount them or restart the machine
[21:26] <DRLD> i am trying to install transmission 1.22, but i get this an error. check it out here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23590/
[21:26] <unop> chowder, you might like to add them into /etc/fstab if you want them mounted automatically on boot -- or use a script
[21:26] <beastax> hey, im a noob to ubuntu, just installed today.  when i try to run games in fullscreen, it keeps jumping to windowed and back to fullscreen etfc
[21:26] <annie_g> JackSparrow: Been using nautilus - Sorry I was not following what you meant by " /usr/share/doc/abs-guide/html/index " - I need to browse to this File - Sorry misunderstood - being brain dead here......
[21:27] <beastax> anyone know what i can do to stop this?
[21:27] <unop> DRLD, what is the name of the package you are trying to build there?
[21:27] <hvgotcodes> hey what is the install size difference between ubuntu and kubuntu?
[21:27] <chowder> unop: good thinking
[21:27] <khajavi> unop: well, I bind these filesystem in chroot, that is ok?
[21:27] <DRLD> unop: i downloaded the source code for transmission and i am running ./configure
[21:27] <chowder> kthx, If all goes well I'll write a tutorial and post it on the forums
[21:27] <chowder> ttyl
[21:28] <unop> khajavi, as long as you have done that... you should be able to launch graphical applications from the chroot
[21:28] <annie_g> Jack_Sparrow: Thunar looks nice - willtryt this for awhile - open to anything that gets the job done.
[21:28] <unop> DRLD, this should help you .. run this first and try again.   sudo apt-get build-dep transmission  # it will install all the packages/libraries needed for the transmission build process
[21:29] <khajavi> unop: is it ok to run mount /proc /media/chroot/proc --bind and so on?
[21:29] <DRLD> k i'll try it. but won't that install transmission 1.06?
[21:29] <webcamwonder> Ok... why is Pulse so unstable?
[21:29] <unop> khajavi, yes
[21:30] <blumm> why thunar?
[21:30] <unop> DRLD, that doesn't install transmission rather it installs the libraries that are needed to build transmission
[21:30] <DRLD> ah i c
[21:30] <khajavi> unop: :-*
[21:30] <DRLD> thanks unop
[21:30] <blumm> i mean, is there anything that nautilus wouldnt do?
[21:30] <orbisvicis> anybody ever seen this:
[21:30] <orbisvicis> http://www.postyourimage.com/view_image.php?img_id=FbHgUwHwEGiDOWr1214683262
[21:31] <orbisvicis> and:
[21:31] <orbisvicis> http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/9586/screenshot1px3.png
[21:31] <FloodBot1> orbisvicis: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:31] <hypn0> blumm: not everyone uses gnome
[21:32] <unop> orbisvicis, very strange .. have you tried logging out and logging back in, does that help?
[21:32] <orbisvicis> unop, reboot, nothing changed
[21:32] <webcamwonder> Does anyone know howto configure sound in Hardy that prevents from crashing it every 2 minutes into any audio?
[21:32] <orbisvicis> unop, i filed a bug report @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vnc4/+bug/243811
[21:32] <blumm> hypn0: but kde has a filebrowser too, i guess?
[21:32] <ph8> hi all; ever since i installed hardy i have no titlebar on my thunderbird window, and only my thunderbird window - i also can't move it and it appears to be permanently on top - has anyone got any ideas about why this is? A right click on it in the taskbar doesn't show it as on top
[21:33] <ph8> the main problem is not being able to move it because of no titlebar
[21:33] <DRLD> unop: now i get this message - http://paste.ubuntu.com/23592/
[21:33] <hypn0> blumm: konqueror I think
[21:33] <friedtofu> hm. when i log into ubuntu i get no icons - i have to use killall nautilus to refresh it - anyone have a fix?
[21:33] <ph8> it executes with `thunderbird %u` which looks fine
[21:33] <blumm> hypn0: yep
[21:34] <unop> DRLD, try this.   sudo aptitude install libcurl
[21:34] <webcamwonder> Does anyone know howto configure sound in Hardy that prevents from crashing it every 2 minutes into any audio?
[21:34] <craigbass1976> So, I'm sitting at Hardy for the first time, and my home dir looks A LOT like windows....
[21:34] <blumm> is there any way to have white bg in nautilus when using list instead of symbols?
[21:35] <DRLD> unop: says that no packages were installed
[21:35] <ph8> craigbass1976: You mean windows looks like hardy? :p
[21:35] <unop> orbisvicis, hmm .. you could try reinstalling all the gnome packages using something like this.  sudo aptitude reinstall $(dpkg -l | grep -i gnome | cut -d " " -f 3) # it might take a while tho
[21:35] <ph8> in the whole 'home dir' concept anyway
[21:35] <cirkit> DRLD: apt-get install curl
[21:35] <craigbass1976> Are there defaults that dump stuff in the pictures, documents, and music folders, or can I remove them with no trouble later?
[21:35] <DRLD> okay
[21:36] <craigbass1976> ph8, I mean the file tree
[21:36] <unop> DRLD,   sudo aptitude install libcurl3
[21:36] <orbisvicis> unop, lol ...
[21:36] <blumm> craigbass1976: i removed them
[21:36] <craigbass1976> blumm, ok.  Then so shall I go...
[21:36] <ph8> ah
[21:36] <unop> DRLD,  perhaps this tho.   sudo aptitude install libcurl libcurl3-dev
[21:36] <DRLD> i'll try that too unop. thnx for your patience
[21:36] <blumm> craigbass1976: you can still do a backup if youre unsure
[21:37] <TwT> hi, can anybody help me?
[21:37] <blumm> TwT: just ask :)
[21:37] <unop> orbisvicis, what's funny?
[21:37] <TwT> I need to tranlate a audio..
[21:37] <craigbass1976> blumm, there's nothing there yet.  I just wondered
[21:37] <TwT> http://www.desafionacional.com.br/dna_em/Console/etapas/swf_questoes/dna2008_i_es_sdd3.mp3
[21:38] <blumm> craigbass1976: be careful with files that start with a "." though
[21:38] <orbisvicis> unop, b/c thats the shotgun approach and that is a to..n of work and might not work
[21:38] <DRLD> unop thanks. configure worked this time. cirkit i also installed curl, what is this?
[21:39] <craigbass1976> blumm, no worries there. It was just shocking to see all those folders set up on a new install.  I'm used to nothing but the . (.bash...  etc) files
[21:39]  * orbisvicis thinks he would laugh like that if someone told him to climb mount Everest
[21:39] <cirkit> curl  is  a tool to transfer data from or to a server, using one of the supported protocols (HTTP, HTTPS, FTP, FTPS,  SCP,  SFTP,  TFTP,  DICT, TELNET,  LDAP  or  FILE).  The command is designed to work without user interaction.
[21:39] <blumm> craigbass1976: ok
[21:39] <orbisvicis> .. for a cookie
[21:40] <newToLinux> Hi all, after the updates for ubuntu, the ltsp client can´t play sound anymore from website
[21:40] <newToLinux> anybody knows how to solve this?
[21:40] <unop> orbisvicis, well, true, but i'd say it has a higher chance of fixing the issue and probably not as time consuming as hunting down the bug through some profiling tool -- your choice
[21:40] <newToLinux> i´ve tried to install the gstreamer ugly plugins
[21:40] <newToLinux> and the gstreamer ffmpeg plugins
[21:40] <orbisvicis> unop, profiling tool ?
[21:40] <newToLinux> but still can´t play sound
[21:40] <annie_g> Jack_Sparrow: Wanted to say thanks for your help. Here is link I found for a 773 page PDF of the the ABS-Guide - http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/abs-guide.pdf - Thx again.
[21:40] <lufis> Is it possible to install windows after the fact without grub getting blown to smithereens?
[21:40] <Gnea> unop: y'know, i've seen people strike down solutions left and right due to some unknown fear... unnerving.
[21:41] <unop> orbisvicis, yea, something like strace or valgrind
[21:41] <botero> salve
[21:42] <khajavi> unop: nkw I mount them but when I want to run such a program it say: dolphin: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[21:42] <hvgotcodes> anyone here having trouble getting to gmail? won't load for me...
[21:42] <blumm> hvgotcodes: working here..
[21:43] <unop> khajavi, and you are sure your existing X server (outside the chroot) is running?
[21:43] <cbones> Note that you must adjust the FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR path to your distribution. The standard place where firmware is installed to is /lib/firmware. However some distributions put firmware in a different place.
[21:43] <lufis> I've got ubuntu on 3 partitions, and would like a tiny windows partition to experiment... is it possible to install it without grub getting murdered in cold blood? I.e., could i install windows, then reinstall grub from a livecd?
[21:43] <cbones> what path do i need to use
[21:43] <Egyn> Hi, does anyone know in what way it is possible for me as an individual to go on a campaign with a mission of helping people in poverty and despair with the philosophy of ubuntu in mind? to educate people and use  IT as a tool of moving away from poverty?
[21:43] <Gnea> lufis: why not install it in a virtual machine, such as vmware?
[21:43] <orbisvicis> hvgotcodes, strangely enough ive seen that myself, and my friends (on windows) randomly (rarely) happen, did you reboot?
[21:44] <unop> cbones, it really depends on the module -- most times the path is hard-coded into the module -- doesn't the documentation for whatever you are installing say anything about the firmware path?
[21:44] <lufis> Gnea: i'm not sure that would work under the circumstances
[21:44] <Gnea> lufis: what circumstances?
[21:44] <hvgotcodes> orbisvicis: been like this for a few days
[21:44] <hvgotcodes> might have to do with firebug
[21:44] <lufis> Gnea: I have a windows install cd provided by dell... would vmware run the installation?
[21:44] <hvgotcodes> no i disabled it
[21:45] <orbisvicis> hvgotcodes, got firebug and gmail works
[21:45] <Gnea> lufis: try it and find out. :) what's the worst that's gonna happen? a bsod? all your data will remain intact.
[21:45] <orbisvicis> hvgotcodes, opera ?
[21:45] <lufis> Gnea: ;) well, i've never used vmware or anything like it before
[21:46] <hvgotcodes> no firefox
[21:46] <hvgotcodes> wierd
[21:46] <hvgotcodes> ive tried clearing cache and disabling firebug globablly
[21:46] <Gnea> lufis: well you can use it for 30 days free (the workstation version) or use vmware server (which will run a desktop OS without any problems) for free
[21:46] <TwT> is there any chinese here?
[21:46] <unop> cbones, i would say, use /lib/firmware
[21:46] <orbisvicis> hvgotcodes, try opera .. ?
[21:46] <lufis> Gnea: are there any FOSS alternatives?
[21:47] <cbones>  unop:  please look here   http://dpaste.com/59694/
[21:47] <Gnea> lufis: no.
[21:47] <lufis> Gnea: ... :( oh
[21:47] <lightforce> hallo
[21:48] <unop> cbones, ok, what am i looking for here?
[21:48] <khajav2> ﻿unop: I disconnected internet, again: I am int in gdm graphical window manager > gnome
[21:48] <cbones> export FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR="/lib/firmware"
[21:48] <cbones> wget http://downloads.openwrt.org/sources/wl_apsta-3.130.20.0.o
[21:48] <cbones> sudo ./bcm43xx-fwcutter-006/bcm43xx-fwcutter -w "$FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR" wl_apsta-3.130.20.0.o
[21:49] <cbones> this what i'm trying to do
[21:49] <oren> i got japanese in gedit using scim. when i try it in open office it display dibrish. do i need to install font for open office?
[21:49]  * Egyn hates the bcm43xx card
[21:49] <rainwalker> Egyn: ug I know how you feel
[21:49] <Egyn> i've tried for 3 years of making it work
[21:49] <unop> cbones, well, the script looks ok -- is something going wrong?
[21:50] <khajav2> unop: I disconnected internet, again: I am int in gdm graphical window manager > gnome
[21:50] <cbones> it doesn't work when i reboot----My wireless doesn't connect
[21:50] <Egyn> that network card the _only_ reason why i havent switched from xp
[21:50] <unop> khajav2, hmm, not sure .. maybe you could try this command.    DISPLAY=:0.0 dolphin  # see if it helps
[21:50] <cbones> i've already installed the b43-fwcutter
[21:51] <rainwalker> Egyn: Netgear WG511T works flawlessly
[21:51] <Egyn> rainwalker: it is such a  hassle of getting it to work
[21:51] <un2him> i cannot get suspend to work with nvidia driver.  when i disable the nvidia driver, suspend works.  Suggestions?
[21:51] <orbisvicis> unop, do you use xvnc ... ?
[21:51] <unop> cbones, after you install the firmware and reload bcm43xx module -- does your wireless interface come up?
[21:52] <Egyn> rainwalker: well i'll just let the notebook become a server in the future running unix/linux and never care about wireless on it again
[21:52] <orbisvicis> unop, if so could i compare your strace to mine
[21:52] <Egyn> rainwalker: cannot be bothered to switch atm
[21:52] <cbones> no
[21:53] <unop> orbisvicis, i don't use xvnc no -- is this happening through a vnc session?
[21:53] <seki1> anyone got novell evolution segfaulting on herron?
[21:53] <unop> cbones, have you verified using ifconfig and iwconfig?
[21:53] <orbisvicis> unop, yes
[21:53] <cbones> no
[21:54] <orbisvicis> !pastebin
[21:54] <unop> cbones, ok, well, do verify
[21:54] <cbones> how do i do that
[21:54] <unop> orbisvicis, hmm, have you tried changing the display depth ? it might be too low at the moment
[21:54] <khajav2> unop: could you give me some key word to search via web?
[21:55] <orbisvicis> unop, depth is 32
[21:55] <orbisvicis> also, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23593/
[21:55] <orbisvicis> strace
[21:55] <unop> cbones, just type  iwconfig  # you should see information about your wireless card if the module and firmware were loaded properly
[21:56] <ubtest> omfg can they make linux any more complicated??
[21:56] <rainwalker> ubtest: as a matter of fact, yes. what's your problem?
[21:57] <wols> linux is not complicated. it's sane and structured
[21:57] <ubtest> all i want to do is enable desktop effects and i have to learn a programing language
[21:57] <AxeZ> ubtest, linux is very userfriendly
[21:57] <khajav2> any one know how to run graphical programs via chroot?
[21:57] <wols> ubtest: no you don't. what videocard?
[21:57] <ubtest> brand new laptop.. nvidia
[21:57] <rainwalker> ubtest: no, you don't. In a terminal, try "SKIP_CHECKS=yes compiz" without the quotes
[21:57] <wols> AxeZ: xauth howto. google it
[21:58] <wols> ubtest: glxinfo |grep direct
[21:58] <AxeZ> wols, what?
[21:58] <wols> rainwalker: how do you know he has 3D enabled
[21:58] <cbones> unop:  heres what it says  http://dpaste.com/59696/
[21:58] <rainwalker> wols: well if that works then we'll know ;P
[21:58] <wols> AxeZ: sorry misread. is for khajav2
[21:58] <lwizardl> Hi
[21:58] <wols> khajav2: xauth howto. google it
[21:58] <lwizardl> can someone tell me how I can add my Tor to apt
[21:58] <unop> orbisvicis, look towards the end of the strace around line # 700 -- it's complaining about not being able to find the relevant theme files - sounds like the cause of your problems
[21:59] <ubtest> said no whitelist driver found
[21:59] <wols> lwizardl: you can't add it to ubuntu repos. you can make your own repo and add it to your own sources.list
[21:59] <wols> ubtest: what does the command say I gave you?
[21:59] <unop> cbones, and you only have one wireless card plugged in at the moment?
[21:59] <orbisvicis> unop, i was looking at that .. but it doesnt look that serious, and i dont have anything to compare it to
[22:00] <lwizardl> vols: sorry thats not what i'm looking to do. I need to add support for Tor connections to my apt-get so I can get updates, etc
[22:00] <cbones> yes
[22:00] <ubtest> direct rendering = no
[22:00] <cbones> its the card that came in the laptop
[22:01] <khajav2> wols: thanks
[22:01] <wols> lwizardl: privoxy. google a howto http://www.google.de/search?q=apt-get+over+socks+proxy&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[22:01] <wols> cbones: pastebin your syslog
[22:01] <wols> !nvidia | ubtest
[22:01] <Ketara> m
[22:01] <oren> how do i get japanese font for open office? (i can type japanese in gedit)
[22:01] <unop> orbisvicis, well, the way i am looking at this is, if the relevant theme's icons and cursors are not found -- the vncviewer is going to have to make do - and that's not good enough in your case as all you get is the empty place holders
[22:01] <ubtest> when i try to enable desktop effects in hardy heron it says can not enable...
[22:02] <wols> ubtest: you need those drivers and direct rendering must be yes. then compiz will work
[22:02] <Pruebaaaaaaaa> I-m actually having a problem, before installing a SLAX version I ran Ubuntu and Windows with grub but after the install (I set up properly) I can just load SLAX with lilo.. That/s lilo http://pastebin.com/m413b2351 and grub http://pastebin.com/m2ec32279. Thanks
[22:02] <orbisvicis> unop, no its not just icons, its every image possible is black
[22:02] <hoptobecubic> alright, i'm having seriously intense trouble editing a video file. All i'm trying to do is have the video start at 8:20 and finish at 11:08. the rest i want cut. If anyone feels very kind , i'll post it on my ftp. or if you know of a more appropriate room please tell me
[22:02] <wols> Pruebaaaaaaaa: is ubuntu still intalled? is the ubuntu bootloader still coming up on boot?
[22:02] <Jimfox> hello!
[22:03] <Pruebaaaaaaaa> wols I have seen GRUB on /boot/ already
[22:03] <unop> cbones, well, it appears to me that your wireless interface is up -- doesn't it show up in the network manager / applet ?
[22:03] <cbones> wols: what is the command to do that
[22:03] <Erick> how do i go up one level in Terminal?
[22:03] <wols> Pruebaaaaaaaa: I did not ask that. answer the questions I did ask
[22:03] <oberoc> Erick: cd ..
[22:03] <Pruebaaaaaaaa> How can I check that wols_
[22:04] <Erick> thanks oberoc
[22:04] <wols> Pruebaaaaaaaa: you should know if your ubuntu is still installed. and you see if the ubuntu kernels show up in your boot menu
[22:05] <unop> orbisvicis, well, either way, it's not good -- also what seems to be out of place is all these "resource unavailable" messages -- but i don't know enough about debugging with strace to know the significance of them
[22:05] <Jimfox> uhm i have a question hopefully someone can answer, i want to run second life since they have a linux version, it should be as easy as running .secondlife, but nothing at all happens, not even an error message, i was wondering what i can do to make it work
[22:05] <orbisvicis> yeah, even in google images nothing is displayed
[22:05] <Pruebaaaaaaaa> wols I just can load SLAX (LILO)... UBuntu and windows were in grub
[22:05] <cbones> unop: where is the net work manager at
[22:05] <oberoc> Has anybody backported ff3 to 7.10?
[22:05] <wols> Pruebaaaaaaaa: then you don't have a ubuntu problem but a slax problem. you are off topic
[22:05] <wols> goodbye
[22:05] <ubtest> sigh i dont have the restricted device manager
[22:05] <Pruebaaaaaaaa> cya
[22:05] <ubtest> ?
[22:06] <orbisvicis> unop, neither do i ; \ Thanks though, ill keep looking
[22:06] <oren> Jimfox: r u running SL from the command line?
[22:06] <unop> cbones, it's in the notification area / system tray -- the little icon with two-computers connected together
[22:06] <cbones> no
[22:06] <Jimfox> i go where the files are and double click the one that i have to, and the prompt window comes up, i click run bot nothing happens
[22:07] <unop> orbisvicis, it can't hurt to try the aptitude command i gave you earlier - it might work and fix the issue - just as long as you cross your fingers :)
[22:07] <hoptobecubic> no one wants to help me out for a minute:-/ i just need a video file to be clipped and after three hours i haven't managed to do it myself
[22:07] <onisciente> I dont know what happened, my firefox cant load the web videos, but the java is enable and was working since I installed everything. Any ideia?
[22:07] <oberoc> hoptobecubic: What are you using?
[22:07] <wols> onisciente: java doesn't do web videos
[22:07] <onisciente> wols: so, what could be?
[22:07] <DeadKennedy2880> wols - how do you do it without pulling out your hair?
[22:08] <wols> onisciente: typically they use flash
[22:08] <unop> onisciente, videos seldom have anything to do with java and vice-versa
[22:08] <onisciente> unop: ok, thanks. So what can i do?
[22:08] <wols> DeadKennedy2880: every once in a while I go postal and kill all workers in a local post office. great stress reliever
[22:08] <unop> onisciente, well, what kind of videos are they? do you know?
[22:08] <DeadKennedy2880> hehe
[22:08] <onisciente> unop: youtube
[22:09] <DeadKennedy2880> note to self - stay clear of USPS
[22:09] <unop> onisciente, that's flash -- make sure flash is loaded into firefox -- navigate to about:plugins and have a look there
[22:09] <onisciente> unop: all videos are blocked
[22:09] <Overand> I don't want to start a flame war or any sort of thing like that, but I'm building an ubuntu-server box, and I'm looking into buying 4 750G-1TB drives, and I'm not sure what brand to go for.
[22:09] <onisciente> unop: let me see
[22:09] <hoptobecubic> oberoc: i've tried everything in synaptic that said anything abuot video editing. avidemux, openmovieeditor, piviti or whatever it was called. i'm currently in vista (dual boot) and movie maker won't open without crashing... which is why i jumped to ubuntu in the first place
[22:10] <Jimfox> anyone can help me in how to run second life? it doesnt run at all, there is not even error messages
[22:10] <onisciente> unop: shckwave flash 9.0 is there
[22:10] <unop> Overand, polls happen in #ubuntu-offtopic .. and your question should really be asked in #hardware -- but i'd say seagate
[22:10] <oberoc> hoptobecubic: hang on, let me check
[22:11] <plouffe> Does anyone use solfege? I installed it, but it crashes every time I try to start it from the menu. I had the same problem with istanbul.
[22:11] <Overand> yes - I was mostly looking for a direction to look
[22:11] <Overand> thanks, unop
[22:11] <ubtest> i have a brand new laptop with an nvidia card, and running ubuntu on virtualbox... is there an easy way to just install the right drivers and get desktop effects to work?
[22:11] <cbones> unop:  your talking about up top ion the right side
[22:11] <unop> onisciente, does the flash applet load when you navigate here - http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/
[22:12] <Jimfox> ...am i in the right place solve my problem i wonder?
[22:12] <onisciente> unop: ok, i'll do it
[22:12] <plouffe> in fact I have the problem with a lot of sound/video programs
[22:12] <oberoc> hoptobecubic: are you running regular ubuntu or media ubuntu?
[22:12] <Overand> ubtest: I don't think virtualbox supports 3d acceleration
[22:12] <unop> cbones, right, yes -- sorry, i don't use gnome and when i do, i usually put the notification area down on the right hand side .. but yea, top right, little icon resembling a network of two computers -- double click on it, etc
[22:12] <DeadKennedy2880> ubtest - good question, ive never been able to get virtualbox working right
[22:12] <Shoplifter> I was watching the the Diablo3 game play and it seems the system goes to almost 100% cpu..
[22:12] <ubtest> hrmm what about vmware?
[22:13] <Overand> ubtest: probably the same.
[22:13] <onisciente> unop: No missing plugins were found, but i cannot se the animation!!
[22:13] <Overand> If you want to try out efects, and get good performance, you
[22:13] <Overand> ll need to be running ubuntu 'actually on the hardware'
[22:13] <zelrikriando> how to see animated gifs?
[22:13] <Overand> ubtest: consider trying out the LieCD
[22:13] <DeadKennedy2880> ubtest - didnt bother to try after i dual-booted
[22:13] <unop> onisciente, you might like to try reinstall flash then -- once done, log out and log back in.   sudo apt-get install --reinstall flashplugin-nonfree
[22:13] <Overand> ubtest: the current ubuntu versions  are pretty good at living alongside windows, if you're not ready to toast windos
[22:14] <cbones>  unop:  it shows that i'm wired right now
[22:14] <Overand> ubtest: you can even install it from inside windows using 'wubi'
[22:14] <onisciente> unop: thank you.
[22:14] <DeadKennedy2880> overand's right on this one
[22:14] <unop> cbones, ok, well, does your wireless card show up there tho? that's what i want to know
[22:14] <DeadKennedy2880> *but consider toasting windows
[22:14] <mcphail> hoptobecubic: you should be able to use mplayer for that
[22:15] <cbones> unop :  no
[22:15] <hoptobecubic> oberoc: regular ubuntu
[22:15] <Jimfox> well ill ask again, anyone knows why when i try to run second life nothing happens?
[22:15] <hoptobecubic> mcphail: mplayer crops?
[22:16] <unop> cbones, ahh, not sure how i can help you more, i don't use gnome, so i wouldnt know what to do -- maybe you should ask someone who uses gnome
[22:16] <mcphail> hoptobecubic: never tries it myself, but you can create "edl" files
[22:16] <zelrikriando> how to look at animated gifs?
[22:16] <oberoc> hoptobecubic: do you have mplayer loaded?
[22:16] <Overand> Jimfox: do you hae proper 3d drivers installed, and do you meet the minimum requirements?
[22:16] <mcphail> hoptobecubic: they contain cropping info
[22:16] <hoptobecubic> oberoc: i'm not in ubuntu right now, let me reboot and i'll try it
[22:16] <unop> zelrikriando, use a picture viewer :)
[22:16] <hoptobecubic> back in a jiff
[22:16] <zelrikriando> unop, doesnt work
[22:17] <unop> zelrikriando, which picture viewer have you tried?
[22:17] <zelrikriando> unop, I thought the default one worked...but seems like...no
[22:17] <Jimfox> overand: yes i have the nvidia drivers installed, and i have a computer i build myself, dating arround 2006, duo core etc etc, the thing is, noooothing happens, absolutely nothing, when i hit run, thats it
[22:18] <zelrikriando> unop, just tell me about one that works :)
[22:18] <onisciente> unop: it worked!! thank you again! =)
[22:18] <unop> zelrikriando, well, i would try these in order  gthumb, gqview, eog
[22:18] <unop> onisciente, yw
[22:18] <unop> !donate
[22:19] <neurobuntu> is it possible to run KDE applications in gnome?
[22:19] <neurobuntu> without installing kde-desktop
[22:19] <unop> neurobuntu, sure
[22:19] <oren> Jimfox: r u ok?
[22:19] <Jack_Sparrow> neurobuntu yes.. they add a few libs but not all of kubuntu
[22:20] <Jimfox> oren: a bit frustrated, i read the instructions and it should just work, but it doesnt
[22:20] <Overand> Jimfox: try running it from the command prompt and see if it dumps an error message
[22:20] <unop> neurobuntu, just install the kde application, that should pull in just that package and its supporting libraries - not all of kde
[22:20] <neurobuntu> So I'm trying to install some software that I have to compile from source... (I wish there were a deb) how can I figure out what kde libs are needed
[22:21] <unop> neurobuntu, apt-get build-dep packagename # installs the libraries needed to build that particular package
[22:21] <aguitel> how speed up startup in ubuntu process ?
[22:21] <neurobuntu> unop: doesn't that only work on precompiled debs?
[22:21] <Steven1> !grub
[22:21] <oren> Jimfox: listen to Overland
[22:21] <oren> Jimfox: and tell us the error
[22:22] <unop> neurobuntu, no, it is actually intended if you want to actually compile something
[22:22] <cbones> unop:  what should I do
[22:22] <Jimfox> oren: er...where is the command prompt again? ahah...used puppylinux before but in ubuntu is ina  different place
[22:22] <hiptobecubic> ok i'm back. i'm installing mplayer now...
[22:23] <neurobuntu> unop: so does apt-get build-dep package name read the config file?
[22:23] <unop> cbones, i'm not really sure - like i said, i don't use gnome, so i can't really help much
[22:23] <DeadKennedy2880> unop - do you have to navigate to the package folder to use apt-get?
[22:23] <neurobuntu> unop: do I run that instead of make or make install?
[22:23] <oberoc> hiptobecubic: mplayer -ss 8:03 -endpos 2:57
[22:23] <zelrikriando> unop, gthumb fixed it
[22:23] <unop> neurobuntu, no, all it does is install the libraries that are needed to build your source package -- you have to run ./configure, make, etc afterwards
[22:23] <oberoc> hiptobecubic: mplayer -ss 8:03 -endpos 2:57 nameOfYourFile
[22:23] <SrgSantos54> hello to all
[22:24] <SrgSantos54> i have a problem with my external Hard drive
[22:24] <neurobuntu> unop: so then how does apt-get build-dep know what the package dependencies are?
[22:24] <SrgSantos54> it say that it couldn't be mount
[22:24] <SrgSantos54> what can i do
[22:24] <hiptobecubic> oberoc, thanks i'll try
[22:24] <unop> DeadKennedy2880, no, apt-get works anywhere -- except a few options, but mostly it works anywhere
[22:24] <oberoc> hiptobecubic: man mplayer
[22:24] <DeadKennedy2880> inop - kk
[22:24] <caroline> hi
[22:24] <DeadKennedy2880> *unop - kk
[22:24] <bloodrock> neurobuntu, what kde program you trying to install
[22:24] <hiptobecubic> oberoc, already reading it :)
[22:25] <neurobuntu> bloodrock its called: Kluster
[22:25] <cbones> unop : i now have a wirless icon but it will not connect
[22:25] <unop> neurobuntu, let's say you are trying to compile a package named foo.  sudo apt-get build-dep foo  knows what libraries are needed to complete building of foo, so it installs them for you
[22:26] <SrgSantos54> how do you mount a external HHD
[22:26] <SrgSantos54> ?!?
[22:26] <SrgSantos54> anyone
[22:26] <caroline> My laptoop makes lots of noise when I close the lid do you know how to stop it or even tell me what it is
[22:26] <bloodrock> neurobuntu,  did you look on kde webite for the libs kluster will need
[22:26] <safasf> I have a broadcom wireless on an HP Pavilian laptop. I'm connected to the internet via an ethernet cable. My wireless driver seems to be "WL" in linux. Its a restricted driver, i enabled it. I see my network that i'm trying to connect to. My network uses WEP Personal. I can't connect to my network via the wireless -- my wireless card gives me the orange hardware light rather than the 'blue' active hardware light -- it tries to connect to the
[22:26] <oberoc> caroline: What kind of noise?
[22:26] <neurobuntu> unop: ok I will try that
[22:26] <caroline> It should appear when you plug it in and appear on your desktop
[22:27] <SrgSantos54> it gives me a error
[22:27] <SrgSantos54> failed to mount
[22:27] <oberoc> caroline: like hard drive noise?
[22:27] <neurobuntu> unop: how do I specify the source package?  I tried that and I got a Unable to find source package error
[22:27] <SrgSantos54> someone plz help me
[22:28] <caroline> safasf I suspect you need to switch your wireless on manually if its a laptop the button should have an anteni item on it
[22:28] <oberoc> SrgSantos54: Does it work anywhere else?
[22:28] <unop> neurobuntu, well, kluster isn't a package ubuntu knows about -- so in this case, you need to examine kluster's documentation to see what libraries need installing before you go ahead and compile it
[22:28] <caroline> like CPU noise
[22:28] <safasf> Caroline -- it has a left and right slider, right is on, left is off -- i switched it to the right.
[22:28] <SrgSantos54> yes
[22:28] <ShinjinAkage> I was trying to change my screensaver and it froze up my computer when it was attempting to "Construct Molecule" or whatever. Now anytime I open it to change the screensaver that one is selected and freezes my computer up. Is there a way to fix this, like uninstalling that screensaver then opening it.?
[22:28] <neurobuntu> ok.... thats what I thought
[22:28] <neurobuntu> thanks anyway
[22:28] <SrgSantos54> it works in my windows
[22:28] <SrgSantos54> but not in ubuntu
[22:28] <SrgSantos54> ?!?
[22:28] <neurobuntu> btw the package is Klusters http://klusters.sourceforge.net/
[22:29] <neurobuntu> i misspelled it
[22:29] <saysay> Hi. all'
[22:29] <SrgSantos54> oberoc can u help me ?
[22:29] <caroline> have a look for some distructions for wpa_supplicant
[22:29] <saysay> anyone here know Samba
[22:29] <Jimfox> agh where is the command prompt? i was hoping it would be in system
[22:29] <oberoc> SrgSantos54: It might be ntfs format, and theen you need the module to read and write ntfs
[22:29] <oren> Jimfox: should be under accessories maybe?
[22:30] <SrgSantos54> ok and how do i do that
[22:30] <rainwalker> ShinjinAkage: I had that problem once; luckily my computer was slow to load the preview so I could click on a different screensaver really fast before it loaded...I know it's a lame solution, but it might work
[22:30] <unop> neurobuntu, if you have already downloaded the source package, read the README / INSTALL file within it , it ought to have information to help you
[22:30] <safasf> ubuntu: 6 hours of my life trying to connect to the internet that I will never get back.
[22:30] <cgantelope> Hello.  I am very new.  Can anyone help me to get a wacom graphire to work in Ubuntu 8
[22:30] <rainwalker> Jimfox: applications > accessories > terminal
[22:30] <rainwalker> Jimfox: or if you just want to run something, press Alt + F2
[22:30] <ShinjinAkage> rainwalker: I already tried that. Mine is fast enough to start up the preview before I can click anything
[22:30] <Jimfox> aaah terminal, thanks
[22:31] <johnnypea_> hello, my internet connection works normal but I cannot update and install repositores, "403 Forbidden" , please help me
[22:31] <neurobuntu> unop:  ya i've already read both of them... I might just do a  apt-get install kubuntu-desktop but I really dont want to... the read me file is empty and the intsall file doesn't explicity list the needed librarires....
[22:31] <saysay> Samba I can see Ubuntu samba share, but I can not see windows share. Windows is reporting bad password in security
[22:31] <oberoc> caroline: Could it is not going to sleep properly
[22:31] <oberoc> ?
[22:31] <rainwalker> safasf: blame the hardware companies for not making drivers. If they did, there would be way less hassle
[22:31] <oberoc> SrgSantos: hang on
[22:31] <SrgSantos54> error can not mount volume
[22:31] <SrgSantos54> what do i do to fix this
[22:31] <neurobuntu> ok I found it: Klusters requires KDE >= 3.1, QT >= 3.1 and libxml2 >= 2.5.4
[22:31] <caroline> oberoc, oooh I'll just check
[22:31] <neurobuntu> so can I just run: apt-get install kde, qt, libxml2 ?
[22:32] <rainwalker> ShinjinAkage: well you could try completely removing gnome-screensaver via Synaptic (but I make sure it doesn't remove anything important along with it) and then reinstall
[22:32] <RodGo> hi all, how i create crontabs on ubuntu hardy, somehow when i run "sudo crontab -l" i get a command not found error :s
[22:33] <caroline> I don't have it set to go to sleep I have it turning off the screen and nothing else, because I want it to keep downloading
[22:33] <ia> hello, everybody. could you tell me please, where i can download official ubuntu documentation (in pdf)?
[22:33] <RodGo> i am on a fresh vps hardy installation
[22:33] <oberoc> SrgSantos54: What is the drive and partition name?
[22:33] <rainwalker> neurobuntu: I don't know about the apt-get install KDE part, because I'm assuming that will install the whole KDE environment
[22:33] <ShinjinAkage> rainwalker: Actually I decided to try your idea again this time with some system resources being used so it wouldn't work as fast and I got it.
[22:33] <neurobuntu> what about installing AmaroK, will that install all of KDE or just the KDE libs?
[22:33] <rainwalker> ShinjinAkage: haha sweet
[22:34] <johnnypea_> hello, my internet connection works normal but I cannot update and install repositores, "403 Forbidden" , please help me :)
[22:34] <rainwalker> neurobuntu: Amarok will not install all of KDE
[22:34] <ShinjinAkage> rainwalker: Thanks, I'm gonna look into deleting just that one since it's the only one that gives me trouble.
[22:34] <neurobuntu> ok I'll try that then... hopefully it will get enough of KDE so that I can install my other program from source
[22:34] <bloodrock> neurobuntu, there is a deb package for kluster
[22:34] <SrgSantos54> its a free agent
[22:34] <zelrikriando> I have a bug
[22:34] <neurobuntu> bloodrock? where?
[22:35] <zelrikriando> In some context, I cannot read mp3's
[22:35] <lecter> I'll have to learn how to make programs from source
[22:35] <Jimfox> ok i am back, this is what i found in the terminal: Warning: Did not register secondlife:// handler with KDE: Directory /home/jimfox/.kde/share/services does not exist.
[22:35] <Jimfox> /home/jimfox/SecondLife_i686_1_19_1_4/secondlife: line 100: bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin: No such file or directory
[22:35] <Jimfox> *** Unclean shutdown. ***
[22:35] <Jimfox> /home/jimfox/SecondLife_i686_1_19_1_4/secondlife: line 108: arch: command not found
[22:35] <lecter> couple non deb packages
[22:35] <FloodBot1> Jimfox: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:35] <Guren> hi upgrade install question, I used to have Gutsy () and recently upgraded to Hardy but how come the new kernel is not listed in the boot menu? and i still have the old kernel? 2.6.22-14-generic
[22:35] <bloodrock> go to http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Klusters?content=14379
[22:35] <oberoc> SrgSantosl; What version of ubuntu are you using?
[22:35] <lecter> depend if mp3 plugin installed in said programs
[22:35] <rainwalker> neurobuntu: plus, Amarok is a great player, so that's a bonus :P
[22:36] <oberoc> caroline: Do u have another machine on your network?
[22:36] <lecter> im using vlc a lot
[22:36] <caroline> SrgSantos54, bring up terminal, then type in sudo -s and type password when prompted, then add your external drive and see what appears in dmesg you should see some kind of lines involving sdc or hdc
[22:36] <aguitel> how speed up startup in ubuntu process ?
[22:36] <neurobuntu> rainwalker: I've used it and I prefer Exaile
[22:36] <lecter> no dual boot
[22:36] <caroline> oberoc, no
[22:36] <neurobuntu> bloodrock: I found the deb on sourceforge. its a older version but I'll give it a try. Atleast that will install the needed libs for me to compile the newest version
[22:36] <rainwalker> neurobuntu: ah, well to each his own
[22:36] <neurobuntu> rainwalker: but it is pretty good, just not my favorite
[22:36] <oberoc> caroline: want to see what was going on in your machine
[22:37] <saysay> Can not see Windows Share on Ubuntu:::Windows is reporting "Unknown user name or bad password" can anyone help?
[22:37] <neurobuntu> rainwalker: have you tried exaile?
[22:37] <caroline> oberoc, I would love to
[22:37] <maco_> oberoc: here
[22:37] <rainwalker> neurobuntu-away: yes I have, I didn't like it
[22:37] <SrgSantos54> caroline : i did that in the terminal and it gave me this rot@00-oo#
[22:38] <RodGo> heyy need some help on how to create new cronjobs on ubnutu hardy
[22:38] <bloodrock> neurob i use exaile i too like it better than armorak
[22:38] <connor> is it possible to use an xbox 360 usb network adapter on a linux pc to have wireless internet access?
[22:38] <RodGo> whe i run "sudo crontab -e" i get a command not found error
[22:38] <LebLinux> Guys, whats the name of the network tools GUI package? That has a list of net tools such as netstat,ping,nslookup, etc.. GUI.
[22:38] <ph8> has anyone got 3 monitors with ubuntu? do i just need two network cards?
[22:38] <maco> oberoc: i'm the chick behind you
[22:38] <DeadKennedy2880> conner - if you have drivers
[22:39] <connor> deadkennedy2880: where can i get the drivers?
[22:39] <oberoc> maco: thanks
[22:39] <rainwalker> LebLinux: are you talking about the System > Administration > Network window?
[22:39] <the_shark> were are the logs for kde?
[22:39] <oberoc> maco: canyou help SrgSantos?
[22:39] <DeadKennedy2880> conner - windows driver and ndiswrapper, i know it works on windows
[22:39] <maco> RodGo: put them in /etc/crontab
[22:39] <SrgSantos54> can someone plz help me
[22:39] <Jimfox> i tried to run second life on the terminal but this is what gave me: Warning: Did not register secondlife:// handler with KDE: Directory /home/jimfox/.kde/share/services does not exist.
[22:39] <maco> RodGo: or if you want to simply say "daily" "monthly" etc, /etc/cron.monthly/ /etc/cron.daily/ etc
[22:39] <LebLinux> rainwalker: does it contain the net tools mentioned above?
[22:39] <maco> SrgSantos54: what's up?
[22:39] <connor> deadkennedy2880: will it allow me to access the internet wirelessy with the adapter?
[22:40] <oberoc> caroline: is the fan going crazy when you are closing the lid?
[22:40] <RodGo> maco: what should i do if i want to run a task every 20 minutes?
[22:40] <rainwalker> LebLinux: ah, I think you want System > Administration > Network Tools
[22:40] <saysay> Can not see Windows Share on Ubuntu:::Windows is reporting "Unknown user name or bad password" can anyone help?
[22:40] <maco> RodGo: */20 in the minutes column
[22:40] <DeadKennedy2880> conner - if its a wireless adaptor, and you have correct drivers (say for windows xp) and install the drivers with ndiswrapper, you have good chances
[22:40] <SrgSantos54> maco
[22:41] <LebLinux> rainwalker: yah I think so, do you know the name of this package in cl?
[22:41] <SrgSantos54> i need help with my external hhd
[22:41] <DeadKennedy2880> conner - finding the drivers might be tricky
[22:41] <rainwalker> LebLinux: cl?
[22:41] <connor> ndiswrapper?
[22:41] <connor> whats that
[22:41] <LebLinux> command line.
[22:41] <mcphail> RodGo: is "/usr/bin/crontab" present on the system?
[22:41] <oberoc> maco: he's having problems with his windows external HDD
[22:41] <rainwalker> LebLinux: gnome-nettool
[22:41] <connor> The computer i need the wireless on has no internet
[22:42] <connor> where can i simply get drivers for it?
[22:42] <rainwalker> connor: ndiswrapper is a common tool used to get wireless drivers to work
[22:42] <LebLinux> rainwalker: thank you!
[22:42] <DeadKennedy2880> conner - ndiswrapper uses the windows drivers and emulates them for linux
[22:42] <RodGo> mcphail: /usr/bin/crontab: No such file or directory
[22:42] <rainwalker> LebLinux: no prolem :P
[22:42] <connor> But its an official xbox 360 usb network adapter
[22:42] <oberoc> maco; I think it's mounting problem
[22:42] <maco> SrgSantos54: did you put a line for it in your /etc/fstab?
[22:42] <connor> have people gotten them to work on a pc to get wireless internet?
[22:42] <RodGo> but i can sudo nano /etc/crontab
[22:42] <rainwalker> LebLinux: if you ever wonder what command is used to start an app, just drag it from the menu onto a panel, right-click the launcher and look at it's properties
[22:43] <caroline> you should see something like "Attached scsi genetic sg3 type 0
[22:43] <the_shark> were do i find system logs in kde?
[22:43] <DeadKennedy2880> ndiswrapper is supposed to be able to emulate most (if not all) usb, windows xp drivers/devices
[22:43] <maco> the_shark: system logs are DE-independent. they're still in /var/log/*
[22:43] <mastrgamr> is there anyone that can help me with installing nVidia drivers on Wubi
[22:43] <connor> can i transfer the drivers to a usb stick?
[22:43] <connor> i need this adapter to work on a computer with no internet on it
[22:43] <oren> how to get japanese in open office?
[22:43] <DeadKennedy2880> conner - yes, but ive only seen ps2 and xbox wireless adaptors work on windows (i figure it should work though with ndiswrapper)
[22:43] <beastax> hey
[22:44] <maco> oren: do you want the app itself to run in japanese or do you just want to type in japanese?
[22:44] <caroline> another interesting question I'm mounting a drive as /home/user/Movies it works ok but It seems to mount in windows as a drive
[22:44] <vamushka>  mastrgamr  all you should have to do is try to activate your visual graphics, that should auto-download your nvidia drivers
[22:44] <beastax> can someone advise me please, just installed 8.04, and when running apps in fullscreen at native res (1280x1024) they keep "popping" out of fullscreen
[22:44] <DeadKennedy2880> conner - get ndiswrapper and have your ubuntu CD for the dependencies
[22:44] <mastrgamr> the problem is. it cant download the Drivers
[22:44] <mastrgamr> i get errors
[22:44] <caroline> another interesting question I'm mounting a drive as /home/user/Movies it works ok but It seems to mount in gnome(lol) as a drive
[22:44] <connor> how do i use ndiswrapper?
[22:45] <DeadKennedy2880> conner - ndiswrapper on the usb stick/cd/backup drive
[22:45] <saysay> mastrgamer what graphics card do you have
[22:45] <mastrgamr> nVidia 7150M
[22:45] <oren> maco: only type. i can do it in gedit with scim. when i hit ctrl+space in open office it types in gibrish. i might need fonts?
[22:45] <saysay> I have a 9800, had to download a beta driver from nvidia
[22:45] <aguitel> how to speed up boot process in ubuntu ?
[22:45] <DeadKennedy2880> conner - do a google search for it, but make sure you get those drivers too (on the external hdd)
[22:46] <connor> i cant find drivers
[22:46] <beastax> anyone please?
[22:46] <DeadKennedy2880> conner - thats gonna be the tough part
[22:46] <connor> what does ndiswrapper do?
[22:46] <DeadKennedy2880> conner - ndiswrapper uses the windows drivers and emulates them for linux
[22:46] <beastax> its really annoying me, i might go back to fedora if i cant fix it
[22:46] <oberoc> beastax: What apps?
[22:46] <mastrgamr> When i enable my Nvidia graphics hardware, it tries to install the new drivers but it give an error
[22:47] <beastax> so far xmoto and urbanterror
[22:47] <saysay> mastergamr install the drivers manually
[22:47] <beastax> ive not had it installed long and my old storage drive seems to be knackered (bios wont detect it)
[22:47] <Guest83238> for wireless install ndisgtk then windows driver
[22:47] <oberoc> beastax: What are those appa?
[22:47] <nickrud> mastrgamr so what's the error? No info, no real help :)
[22:47] <maco> oren: it should work just the same as with gedit, so yeah, try changing what font you're using in OOo to one that supports those characters
[22:47] <beastax> games
[22:47] <caroline> love xmoto took me forever to learn how to play at all
[22:47] <beastax> oberoc, games
[22:48] <saysay> Can not see Windows Share on Ubuntu:::Windows is reporting "Unknown user name or bad password" can anyone help?
[22:48] <oren> maco: what font support japanese?
[22:48] <oberoc> beastax: Can you fire it up from the cmd line?
[22:48] <aguitel> how to speed up boot process in ubuntu ?
[22:48] <teethdood> how come vmware is not in the repos?
[22:48] <beastax> yeah
[22:48] <caroline> beastax, I swapped a motherboard on a drive on friday and now it works again
[22:48] <nickrud> !upstart | aguitel
[22:48] <tin> aguitel: do you know why it is slow?
[22:48] <mastrgamr> my Error when i use the terminal to activate the nVidia driver... http://paste.ubuntu.com/23603/
[22:48] <caroline> now sat in a nas box
[22:48] <user_> teethdood: its closed source, better use virtualbox
[22:49] <maco> oren: ones with "gothic" in the name usually do
[22:49] <beastax> caroline, yeah, the drive was faulty in my old box though, and ironically the very last time i shut it down i got a shedload of errors on it
[22:49] <aguitel> tin ;hardy is to slow in many pcs
[22:49] <beastax> like, bad errors ;S
[22:49] <oren> maco: can't see any gothic. where do i get more fonts and how do i add them?
[22:49] <beastax> but nevermind, i have a new pc now, but a terrible problem with fullscreen games!
[22:49] <Illuzionz> Hello, i have a question;
[22:49] <Illuzionz> Why is there a "about me" function in ubuntu? why is there a option to fill in my personal details?
[22:49] <Illuzionz>  whats it for?
[22:49] <oberoc> beastax: See if it gives you any errors
[22:49] <rainwalker> aguitel: from now on, please ask your question only once
[22:49] <theresaf> i am having a problem with installing java jdk onto my ubuntu
[22:49] <beastax> oberoc, no, it doesnt
[22:50] <beastax> afair
[22:50] <beastax> brb, double check
[22:50] <nickrud> mastrgamr do sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-glx , then try the install of nvidia-glx-new again
[22:50] <mastrgamr> any1 know what this mean O__O http://paste.ubuntu.com/23603/
[22:50] <oberoc> beastax: can flags on the cmd line app
[22:50] <saysay> mastergamr I had the same problem
[22:50] <oren> maco: i found gothic. but..
[22:51] <oren> maco: it shows circles instead of characters.
[22:51] <nickrud> aguitel or wait about 5-10 minutes before asking again. Someone may have dropped in who knows your answer
[22:51] <theresaf> can anyone help me get jdk 6 working on ubuntu
[22:51] <SrgSantos54> maco
[22:51] <nickrud> theresaf sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[22:51] <theresaf> i installed it but its giving me an error
[22:51] <theresaf> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# java
[22:51] <theresaf> java: error while loading shared libraries: libjli.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[22:51] <aguitel> is upstart speed up the system ?
[22:52] <saysay> then i went to http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/173.14.09/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.09-pkg1.run
[22:52] <oberoc> beastax: gtg
[22:52] <nickrud> theresaf did you install with apt-get/synaptic ?
[22:52] <maco> SrgSantos54: is the drive in your /etc/fstab?
[22:52] <Illuzionz1> Can any1 tell me the purpose of the function to fill in my personal details?
[22:52] <mastrgamr> I get the same error when i reinstall then try to install a new nVidia driver
[22:52] <neurobuntu> will debs compiled for ubuntu work in debian? what about visa versa
[22:52] <theresaf> i followed the instrux on ubuntuforums
[22:52] <SrgSantos54> maco can u answer the other window
[22:52] <SrgSantos54> plz
[22:52] <nickrud> mastrgamr no error on the reinstall?
[22:52] <maco> oren: circles? O_o rectangles, odd unicode things...those i could get, but circles?
[22:52] <maco> neurobuntu: sometimes
[22:53] <nickrud> theresaf there's more than one set of instructions on there, depending on needs/skills ....
[22:53] <maco> neurobuntu: if they're just python apps, then probably since that's not compiled.  compiled stuff...maybe
[22:53] <mastrgamr> i got no error on reinstall
[22:53] <theresaf> the one downloading the bin then fakerooting
[22:53] <oren> maco: it's ok. i found good one.
[22:53] <oren> maco: thanks.
[22:53] <Illuzionz1> Can any1 tell me the purpose of the function to fill in my personal details?
[22:53] <nickrud> mastrgamr a sec while I look over the bug lists
[22:54] <nickrud> theresaf with java-package ?
[22:54] <rainwalker> neurobuntu: since Ubuntu is Debian-based, I would assume yes, but make sure there isn't anything the .deb needs that's exclusive to Ubuntu
[22:54] <theresaf> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76702&page=6
[22:55] <crimsun_> neurobuntu: it's not a good idea to mix and match debs across distributions
[22:55] <esac> when i reboot, it seems to take a long time on CIFS. is it because i have an SMB share mounted via CIFS, and if so how can i get it to not hang there ?
[22:56] <nickrud> theresaf that is verrrry old.  You should do remove the packages you made and installed, and then sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[22:56] <amenado> esac you are booting off of cifs file system? i dont think it is possible
[22:57] <nickrud> mastrgamr still looking
[22:57] <esac> amenado, no i have an smb share mounted via cifs
[22:57] <mastrgamr> k
[22:57] <amenado> esac if I were you, I delay the mounting of that smb share as much as possible or else you'd be waiting for a long time if network is not available to mount it
[22:58] <esac> amenado, how do i delay mounting it and ignore unmounting it ?
[22:58] <amenado> esac modify your fstab, mount the share manually
[22:58] <nickrud>  mastrgamr http://tennessee.ubuntuforums.com/showpost.php?s=67ea1b1ff4117cd0f51884077e95c8ea&p=5185342&postcount=4
[22:59] <miguelrsilva> hi. I'm having a problem to install the ubuntu-8.04-server-amd64. can I install the ubuntu-8.04-server-i386 on a amd athlon 64 machine?
[22:59] <carlyn> theresaf:  try sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk if you want normal Sun java
[22:59] <orangey> hey all!
[22:59] <nickrud> mastrgamr bug #36625
[22:59] <__yy> miguelrsilva: you can install a 32 bit os on a 64 bit machine, yes
[22:59] <orangey> How do I configure my standby nowadays?? It seems /etc/defaults/acpi-support is deprecated!
[22:59] <molliso1> hello everyone, i asked a question earlier but my internet connection immediately died.
[23:00] <narcoclepsy> how do i change my default java to use the sun packages instead of the gcj garbage :-)
[23:00] <orangey> narcoclepsy: update-alternatives or some such
[23:00] <orangey> narcoclepsy: do a quick google for it.
[23:00] <nickrud> narcoclepsy sudo update-alternatives --config java
[23:00] <miguelrsilva> __yy: ty
[23:00] <nickrud> !google | orangey ;)
[23:00] <narcoclepsy> excellent thanks
[23:00] <orangey> narcoclepsy: right. what nickrud said : )
[23:01] <carlyn> theresaf: First time I typed java --version    Ubuntu gave me a list of java s and jvm combinations to choose from
[23:01] <narcoclepsy> yeah i got it all plus the "check google you lazy loaf" :-)
[23:01] <molliso1> I upgraded from Gusty to Hardy on an machine with an ATI graphics card and now my graphics don't work properly. I don't want to use the proprietary driver, plus there is a bug with installing it on my machine. Does anoyone know how I can downgrade to the graphics driver I was using in Gusty??
[23:01] <orangey> narcoclepsy: I recognize that it would be hard to figure out completely independently. I just didn't remember the exact command, and felt you could make it from my starting point. However, nickrud's point is well taken.
[23:02] <nickrud> molliso1 first I'd try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg , that will write a new xorg.conf for hardy, saving your old one
[23:02] <molliso1> thanks, i think i already tried that but i will try again to make sure.
[23:03] <nickrud> orangey giving the right google terms is helpful, usually pulls up good reading ;)
[23:03] <nickrud> molliso1 what ati card?
[23:03] <orangey> but what really confuses me is how we're supposed to configure standby / restore nowadays.. No more /etc/default/acpi-support?
[23:03] <molliso1> X1400 i believe
[23:03] <molliso1> i actually don't know how to tell for sure - let me know if there is a command i can use
[23:03] <narcoclepsy> so since sun is making java truley open source maybe they can ship the next release with a normal java setup ;-)
[23:03] <nickrud> molliso1 lspci | grep -i vga will way for sure
[23:03] <miguelrsilva> i beleave i'm getting this problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cdrom-detect/+bug/207431. it's probably not going to happen wth the ubuntu-8.04-server-i386, rigth?
[23:03] <recon69> new day, new ubuntu problem, just booted my system after updating last night, now my max screen resolution  is 640/460, no need to reply and i will never be able to read it.
[23:03] <theresaf> ty nickrud, i am new to ubuntu having grown up starting with yggdrasil slackware and suse
[23:04] <orangey> narcoclepsy: it's one of those things I'll believe when I see.. though it would be amazing if we could.
[23:04] <nickrud> narcoclepsy java get's shipped that way in debian/ubuntu cuz you can have many versions available, and choose which you want to use at the moment with that command.
[23:04] <molliso1> nickrud, here is my graphics card for sure: ﻿sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg
[23:04] <molliso1> wait, nm
[23:04] <nickrud> hahahhaa
[23:04] <molliso1> ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility X1400
[23:04] <molliso1> lol
[23:05] <narcoclepsy> nickrud i am just piking some fun :-)
[23:05] <molliso1> what do i do to restart xorg?
[23:05] <narcoclepsy> ctrl alt backspace?
[23:06] <DeadKennedy2880> molliso1- i have the same vid card, hardy installs restricted driver and everything works perfect
[23:06] <DeadKennedy2880> too slow
[23:07] <nickrud> narcoclepsy that's evil for someone not expecting it :)
[23:07] <mollison> nickrud, restarting xorg did not fix the problem
[23:07] <mollison> what would you recommend now?
[23:07] <DeadKennedy2880> molliso1- i have the same vid card, hardy installs restricted driver and everything works perfect
[23:07] <nickrud> DeadKennedy2880 I was looking around for confirmation that the free ati truly supports the x1400, I'm not sure
[23:07] <narcoclepsy> nickrud whats evil
[23:08] <Pupeno> Hello.
[23:08] <nickrud> narcoclepsy killing someone's X like that, they may have an open app with unsaved data
[23:08] <narcoclepsy> ctl alt backspace? they asked to restart X. i figured they were in it already
[23:08] <satan_> oi
[23:08] <Pupeno> Anybody running Plone on Ubuntu using packages?
[23:08] <narcoclepsy> well no evil was intended.
[23:08] <lwizardl> hi
[23:08] <nickrud> narcoclepsy that's why the smiley ;)
[23:08] <mollison> DeadKennedy, what happens is in restricted driver manager, I enable the driver but it never actually goes to being in use
[23:08] <DeadKennedy2880> nickrud - cant tell you what the papers say, but i run games, movies, compiz, all at native resolution with no driver effort.
[23:08] <mollison> not sure why
[23:08] <narcoclepsy> if you're explerimenting and configuring then you should not leave stuff unsaved and open :-)
[23:08] <kre> hi
[23:08] <carlyn>  nickrud: Here the list of options I got for javac and classpath system libraries  http://pastebin.org/46853  (dont have a nice java jvm list)
[23:08] <lwizardl> how do I enable support in apt-get for using Tor
[23:08] <mollison> there were some people on a forum with the same problem, there was never a solution
[23:08] <lwizardl> ?
[23:08] <mastrgamr> ....
[23:08] <theresaf> nickrud didnt work
[23:09] <DeadKennedy2880> restriced drivers in use, was by default the first time i bootedup 8.04
[23:09] <theresaf> Errors were encountered while processing:
[23:09] <theresaf>  sun-java6-bin
[23:09] <theresaf>  sun-java6-jre
[23:09] <theresaf>  sun-java6-jdk
[23:09] <theresaf> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[23:09] <FloodBot1> theresaf: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:09] <mastrgamr> who helped me???
[23:09] <mastrgamr> i owe u so much O__O weee.. the drivers installed!!
[23:09] <mollison> i had to enable restricted drivers, was not by default, and then it never actually switched to the proprietary driver.
[23:09] <nickrud> theresaf the real error came earlier, put the full contents on paste.ubuntu.com
[23:09] <nickrud> mastrgamr yw
[23:10] <orangey> Anybody successfully configuring suspend / standby / hibernate out here?
[23:10] <DeadKennedy2880> mollison - i remember i had to fight with drivers for 7.10 to work with my x1400, but hardy installed and recognized it perfectly
[23:10] <nickrud> carlyn you did the apt-get install sun-java6-jdk , just didnt' paste the rest of the output?
[23:11] <kre> i wonder y i can't start my pidget
[23:11] <theresaf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23610/
[23:11] <Panic_Attack> I am using Nvidia restricted driver in Ubuntu 8.04, the version is 169.12, is this really the newest version in restricted respository??
[23:12] <mollison> so does anyone know how i can downgrade to the previous driver?
[23:12] <friedtofu> it must be. - but the nvidia one is 173.14.05 or something like that
[23:12] <friedtofu> for linux
[23:12] <nickrud> theresaf try sudo apt-get remove --purge sun-java6-bin
[23:12] <Panic_Attack> yes that is what I am wondering, the 169.12 is getting old
[23:13] <mollison> actually what happens DeadKennedy is when I enable the restricted driver and reboot, it acts like I now have an unknown, generic graphics card and gives me low resolution.
[23:13] <nickrud> Panic_Attack that's hardy? If so, you can try using envyng-gtk, but see the following:
[23:13] <nickrud> !envyng | Panic_Attack
[23:13] <DeadKennedy2880> mollison - did you actully install ubuntu, or are you using virtualbox or something?
[23:13] <theresaf> nickrud done the remove
[23:13] <lastent> hi, I used to have a network with the my brother XP SP2 PC, but know that he upgraded to SP#., I can't connect to that pc, any help please
[23:14] <lwizardl> how do i allow APT to use my proxy?
[23:14] <carlyn> nickrud: I installed a different javac  not sun but jikes - better bytecode and error messages, but most people use sdk
[23:14] <nickrud> theresaf now, do  dpkg -l '*java*' | grep ^ii , and put the output on the pastebin
[23:14] <Panic_Attack> ok, I know envy, but thought that "official" repository was safer
[23:14] <theresaf> carlyn i am having a problem like yu as well
[23:14] <nickrud> carlyn I'm not java expert by any means, just fair at ubuntu packaging (wrote some docs about java-package)
[23:15] <mollison> DeadKennedy: I actually installed ubuntu. I'm running on a thinkpad T60. Had gusty working on here fine for several months.
[23:15] <nickrud> Panic_Attack it is, but envyng-gtk is in the official repos, and some people i trust have (grudgingly) said it works
[23:15] <carlyn> theresaf: which problem? I solved the classpath problem... and now to try cacao
[23:15] <theresaf> nickrud java-package and java-common only
[23:15] <nickrud> theresaf purge java-common as well
[23:15] <theresaf> carlyn just getting jdk to install
[23:15] <Panic_Attack> ok, I'll try envy. I have tried it with 7.10 and it worked fine
[23:16] <gringo> Can someone help me with this? postfix+dovecot with ssl/tls and mysql-backend http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/380182/
[23:16] <Panic_Attack> thx
[23:16] <makario> I don't have the option to hibernate on my laptop. I can suspend just fine. Any help?
[23:16] <lastent> #ubuntu-network
[23:16] <makario> (It's not that hibernation doesn't work necessarily, I just don't have that button.)
[23:16] <theresaf> done
[23:16] <mollison> Is ther e a channel for graphics-related problems?
[23:16] <nickrud> theresaf now try sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[23:16] <DeadKennedy2880> mollison - thought id ask, you cant imagine how many time that happens to people who try using V.Box or something. as for uninstalling the driver and reinstalling older drivers - a higher up geek will have to guide you. ive been lucky not to have to do it yet
[23:17] <mollison> ok, thanks DK.
[23:17] <DeadKennedy2880> mollison - wish i coulda helped more
[23:17] <mollison> Do you happen to also have a T60?
[23:17] <snova> mollison: what's the problem?
[23:17] <DeadKennedy2880> mollison - no i have an acer 5672
[23:17] <DeadKennedy2880> that i love
[23:18] <mollison> snova: I upgraded from Gusty to Hardy and now my graphics aren't working properly. If i enable the proprietary ATI driver, when it reboots, I get an error and go into low resolution.
[23:18] <mollison> right now i'm using the generic driver, and the refresh is very slow, so i can't really browse the web even.
[23:18] <nickrud> mollison downgrading packages to a prior release is not easy, especially with something as integral as X. You could _try_ downloading the deb for it from packages.ubuntu.com, removing xserver-xorg-driver-ati , and dpkg -i the older. Not something I'd recommend, but that's a method
[23:18] <orangey> how can I use /etc/pm/* to dictate that I want S1, not S3?
[23:18] <mollison> do I have any other options?
[23:19] <bringatowel> mollison, did you try using xfix from the recovery options?
[23:19] <theresaf> same problem nickrud
[23:19] <nickrud> mollison determine what the real issue is
[23:19] <nickrud> theresaf is this x64?
[23:19] <theresaf> also didnt download anything new just reselected the java-common
[23:19] <mollison> bringatowel - no - i didn't see any recovery options
[23:19] <snova> mollison: i'm using the proprietary driver now, though i'm not sure what version this is. i don't think i can help, but i think i used dexconf at one point
[23:19] <NetEcho_> For some reason Java has stopped working for website javascripts again. I try to open the webpage with the javascript and it closes the window after the applet loads
[23:19] <theresaf> nope a dell latitude x300 running on a persistant usb key
[23:19] <NetEcho_> if I switch to openjdk I won't even allow me to open the window
[23:19] <mollison> thanks snova.
[23:19] <nickrud> theresaf that's ok, I just wanted to be sure it wasn't installed on the system. The deb package had been stored in /var/cache/apt/archive
[23:20] <jamie> i can not figure out how to get my 5.1 surround working
[23:20] <bringatowel> mollison, hit escape at startup to see the grub boot options, pick recovery mode and there should be an xfix option, not sure but this might help
[23:20] <snova> mollison: or aticonfig
[23:20] <bringatowel> !ati | mollison
[23:20] <snova> mollison: yes, i think it was aticonfig
[23:21] <NetEcho_> How do I fix java so I can play java based web games with it?
[23:21] <dstrbdfrk1> hey whats the best multiplayor online game i can install ??
[23:21] <nickrud> theresaf I'm not sure what is happening there, I've never seen that problem. A sec
[23:21] <carlyn> theresaf: jikes with gij installed fine, but Im trying a different JVM from source - also a problem.. next post my question :)
[23:21] <snova> dstrbdfrk1: bzflag is kind of fun. but increase the graphics first.
[23:22] <bringatowel> dstrbdfrk1, nexuiz is pretty fun, so is tremulous and openarena if you like FPS
[23:22] <DeadKennedy2880> dstrbdfrk1 - i like urban terror
[23:22] <mastrgamr> ummm how do you install stuff on linux? like whats the linux's .exe file?
[23:22] <theresaf> carlyn i cant get it to install
[23:22] <dstrbdfrk1> ok i was just wondering whitch is the most popular
[23:22] <bringatowel> mastrgamr, go to Applications -> Add / Remove
[23:22] <snova> mastrgamr: linux doesn't care about file extensions as much.
[23:22] <mollison> ubotto: I tried the link you sent me; the directions don't work because -r is not a valid switch for dpkg-reconfigure.
[23:22] <creeed> hello friends, I just wanna know how can I manage the daemons, witch start automatially after init on booting?
[23:22] <snova> mastrgamr: you won't find .exe files (except in a few cases, like Wine)
[23:22] <mollison>  Enable accelerated the accelerated ATI graphics driver in the restricted-manager, then do: {{{sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh linux-restricted-modules-uname -r sudo insmod /lib/modules/uname -r/volatile/fglrx.ko}}} Log out and log in.
[23:22] <mollison> This is what I need but that doesn't work (yes, even removing the {{{ and doing it as separate commands LOL)
[23:23] <NetEcho_> Howcome Java just randomly stopped working and causes all Firefox windows with java scripts in them to close?
[23:23] <nickrud> theresaf are you doing this on the live cd?
[23:23] <mastrgamr> i have a tar.gz file. and i dont know how to install what i want out of it
[23:23] <bringatowel> creeed, try system -> admin -> services, but generally its better to configure each program
[23:23] <jamie> i can not figure out how to get my 5.1 surround working
[23:23] <snova> creeed: the /etc/init.d folder holds boot scripts. the /ect/rc.X folders contain links to /etc/init.d and are run on runlevel changes. that's all i know.
[23:23] <DeadKennedy2880> masrtgamr - that an archive
[23:23] <mastrgamr> example i downloaded Code::Blocks
[23:23] <Starnestommy> mastrgamr: extract it, then read the readme or install files that should be in it
[23:24] <mastrgamr> soo how i instal wats int he archive?
[23:24] <crusher_> anyone know how to install cinelerra
[23:24] <mastrgamr> ok
[23:24] <narcoclepsy> mastrgamr: You need to.. yeah what Starnestommy said..
[23:24] <Soundbuay> how does one set firewall settings in ubuntu
[23:24] <carlyn> checkinstall   for both classpath and cacao receive no errors - both end with dpkg -r  xxx   message, but says cacao is not installed - still need sudo ...
[23:24] <theresaf> nickrud, i think i have found the problem
[23:24] <crusher_> or is there a program/file that I can use to install it
[23:24] <narcoclepsy> mastrgamr: uncompress it and read the readme file that is mostlikely tgere
[23:24] <snova> mastrgamr: specifically, read the INSTALL file. it usually exists.
[23:24] <crusher_> I have tried about 4 different things but I cannot get cinelerra installed
[23:24] <nickrud> theresaf that's good, cuz I found exactly one ref on google to that error (congrats, by the way on your uniqueness ;)
[23:24] <theresaf> the dpkg make created it as jdk not java and its still installed,
[23:25] <NetEcho_> I'm having this issue where I try to run javascript based games on pogo.com and when I use sun-java6 it forcefully closes the browser window and if I use openjdk it doesn't even let me open the applet
[23:25] <theresaf> so i need to purge the jdk package
[23:25] <nickrud> theresaf ah, you still haven't removed the ones you made?
[23:25] <theresaf> they didnt show up
[23:25] <bringatowel> mollison, which command gave an error?
[23:25] <creeed> bringatowel, I did but I dont found all daemons there!
[23:25] <theresaf> i found it by looking at update-alternatives
[23:25] <nickrud> theresaf I was looking for the ones from ubuntu, I'd assumed you had removed them earlier as asked. But that's good, you found it
[23:26] <bringatowel> creeed, ok then look what snova said
[23:26] <mollison> Is there a channel focused on helping people with graphics problems???
[23:26] <creeed> okay
[23:26] <NetEcho_> I'm having this issue where I try to run javascript based games on pogo.com and when I use sun-java6 it forcefully closes the browser window and if I use openjdk it doesn't even let me open the applet
[23:26] <greenfishx3> whats the greatest audio tool on linux? for ripping (eac) converting lossless etc etc?
[23:26] <webcamwonder> !poll | greenfishx3
[23:26] <crusher_> anyone here use cinelerra
[23:26] <rainwalker> greenfishx3: mencoder or ffmpeg
[23:26] <theresaf> i cant find the package to remove
[23:27] <snova> greenfishx3: for ripping, i just use KAudioCreator. it works nicely.
[23:27] <nickrud> theresaf dpkg -l | grep jdk maybe
[23:27] <bringatowel> NetEcho_, Java is not the same thing as Javascript
[23:27] <NetEcho_> bringatowel,  ok then java
[23:27] <nickrud> theresaf you made the package yourself, right? then look in the directory where you made them for the names ;)
[23:27] <greenfishx3> ubottu, so its not okay to ask for a specific software in here? thanks rainwalker, snova
[23:28] <NetEcho_> bringatowel,  I installed sun-java6 and it worked for all of 2 hours and now it hasn't been working all week
[23:28] <futuresoon> botsnack
[23:28] <theresaf> ok its only got the one still wont install
[23:28] <rainwalker> greenfishx3: ubottu is a bot, just FYI, and #ubuntu is not the place for polls
[23:28] <NetEcho_> every time I ask for help nobody listens in here
[23:28] <craigbass1976> Anyone else have trouble setting up Hardy LAMP server?  Can't think of any more packages I have to start, update, or install
[23:28] <DeadKennedy2880> greenfishx3 - its a support channel for ubuntu
[23:28] <NetEcho_> and if I go to ##java they'll ban me
[23:28] <bringatowel> NetEcho_, yeah keep using sun java, maybe there is something wrong with the browser plugin?
[23:28] <greenfishx3> okay my bad then
[23:29] <NetEcho_> bringatowel, how do I know?
[23:29] <anteaya> i am getting a readline error with one of my apps.  No such file to load readline.  Synaptic identifies readline already installed.  Why would I get a readline error if readline is already installed?
[23:29] <DeadKennedy2880> greenfishx3 - np
[23:29] <bringatowel> craigbass1976, what's the problem?
[23:29] <theresaf> nickrud http://paste.ubuntu.com/23614/
[23:30] <tunys> http://tinyurl.com/57ty6c
[23:30] <snova> anteaya: what's the problem? when does it occur? to what program?
[23:30] <NetEcho_> How do I know if my browser plugin is broken?
[23:30] <anteaya> snova: in rails when i run script/console
[23:31] <bringatowel> NetEcho_, can you find the java browser plugin in the package manager?
[23:31] <anteaya> snova, http://pastie.org/224142
[23:31] <snova> anteaya: i don't know much about ruby (just that it's a scripting language).
[23:31] <theFATMAN> how do i install fonts?
[23:31] <NetEcho_> bringatowel, Sun Java Plugin?
[23:31] <craigbass1976> bringatowel, mysql-server-5.0 apache2 php5 libapache2-mod-php5 php5-mysql all installed.  Iget the message on a php script pulling from a database "Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in file ...."
[23:31] <carlyn> theresaf: What does it say? Have you tried from System>Administration>Synaptic Manager?    (search on java to get started - then ask again)
[23:31] <anteaya> snova, fair enough, do you know anything about readlines?
[23:31] <NetEcho_> bringatowel, yea I see it should I remove it?
[23:31] <newToLinux> which version of squid do i need to install for hardy heron? advise please
[23:32] <newToLinux> the version 2 or 3?
[23:32] <webcamwonder> !java
[23:32] <Steven1> !grub
[23:32] <snova> anteaya: just that it's a library, from which only readline() is really useful.
[23:32] <bringatowel> NetEcho_, that sounds like it, maybe try reinstalling it?
[23:32] <webcamwonder> !java | theresaf
[23:32] <esac> i added kvm and kvm_intel to both /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and they still get loaded at boot ! any ideas ?
[23:32] <theresaf> carlyn did you look at the pastebin
[23:32] <snova> anteaya: if the problem occurs when you run the program, it's not a library dependency issue
[23:32] <newToLinux> !squid
[23:32] <theresaf> webcamwonder i need the jdk not the damn  jre - i am a developer
[23:32] <snova> anteaya: unless you are running a ruby script? then install whatever bindings exist to ruby for libreadline
[23:32] <wols> !jdk
[23:32] <anteaya> snova, oh okay, if it isn't a dependency issue, where would the issue lie?
[23:33] <wols> !jre
[23:33] <trucMuche> Lisa1340,  !!!!!!
[23:33] <snova> anteaya: are you running a ruby script?
[23:33] <nickrud> theresaf that file should be in sun-java6-bin package, which is claiming it's not finding it. Are you doing this in a live cd?
[23:33] <wols> theresaf: if you really are a dev, this info is enough for you to know how to get it
[23:33] <snova> anteaya: it looks like it
[23:33] <bringatowel> craigbass1976, that seems like a php error, not sure what would cause that if you have all the php sql packages installed
[23:33] <anteaya> snova, rails is a ruby program so i guess yes
[23:33] <theresaf> nickrud as i said i am doing it from a persistant usb key
[23:33] <anteaya> snova,  and i have the libreadlinesruby installed
[23:33] <trucMuche> Lisa1340, stop your private **** please !!
[23:34] <NetEcho_> bringatowel,  same issue the apple gives me a grey applet box and then eventually closes
[23:34] <NetEcho_> *applet
[23:34] <craigbass1976> bringatowel, and that script, other than having different user/pass is the same running fine on two feisty boxes and a cent5 box
[23:34] <theresaf> ie installed on usb from livecd
[23:34] <theresaf> then booted off key
[23:34] <nickrud> theresaf I missed you saying that; that's the equiv of a live cd. The only error I've found like that on the web (the unique one) was someone trying to do it in a live environment
[23:34] <snova> anteaya: well, like i said, i don't know anything about ruby. sorry.
[23:34] <Asymmetry> What's a good GUI app to use for encoding/transcoding to iPod-compatible video formats?
[23:34] <anteaya> snova: thanks for your time
[23:35] <theresaf> i cant blow away the windoze partition though
[23:35] <theresaf> it has expensive licenced windoze sw on it
[23:35] <nickrud> theresaf you don't need to. Are you using vista?
[23:35] <theresaf> nah xp pro i think
[23:35] <Blaqlight> theresaf, sure you can.. its can its called delete.
[23:35] <DeadKennedy2880> theresaf dualboot
[23:35] <Steven1> Can someone help me find my hard drive labeled hdb1 please? Vista screwed up it's own Bootmanager and now I have to overwrite it with grub to get back in.
[23:35] <theresaf> wouldnt touch vista with a barge pole
[23:35] <nickrud> theresaf well, if it was vista I'd say use vista to resize it's partition and install ubuntu in the remaining space. But the ubuntu installer will do that for you with xp
[23:36] <bringatowel> craigbass1976, its not a problem with the script, just php or php sql functions are not configured properly on the system
[23:36] <trucMuche> thanks ompaul
[23:36] <theFATMAN> how do i install fonts?
[23:36] <Steven1> Put them in your fonts folder.
[23:36] <theresaf> blaqlight are you going to pay for the £3000 of sw then
[23:36] <nickrud> theresaf I really think it's something to do with the live environment, but don't know enough to say for sure
[23:36] <craigbass1976> Steven1, just remember that grub labels them differently than linux does
[23:36] <Alfarin> Thanks ompaul
[23:36] <Blaqlight> theresaf, my laptop came with xp pro media center edition. its now gone, long gone.
[23:36] <theresaf> what can i do to update the key to a better library thing?
[23:36] <Steven1> craigbass1976: That's what I need help with. I need to find out the grub name for hdb1.
[23:36] <bringatowel> NetEcho_, reinstall it from Synaptic package manager
[23:37] <craigbass1976> Steven1, hd1,0 or something like that for drive/partition
[23:37] <theresaf> blaqlight i need the windoze partition and its only a 20gb drive, i am running ubuntu from a 4gb usb key
[23:37] <Blaqlight> so there isn't any opensource equivelants for this software?
[23:37] <craigbass1976> Steven1, google.  I've got a kid in my lap so trying not to type much
[23:37] <NetEcho_> bringatowel, thats how I did it
[23:37] <Steven1> craigbass1976: I tried (hd0,3) but that only got the grub loader for Linux working. Vista isn't in there. I was thinking of manualy editing it.
[23:37] <esac> !squid
[23:37] <bringatowel> Asymmetry, try Avidemux (with GTK)
[23:38] <theresaf> blaqlight ok can you get dreamweaver 8, office pro + vb .net , quickbooks and autocad for linux?
[23:38] <craigbass1976> Steven1, manually editing grub.conf?  nothing wrong with that.  keep the livecd handy though
[23:38]  * Asymmetry tries to, but has this problem with fat-fingering his password.
[23:38] <bringatowel> NetEcho_, make sure to uninstall the non-Sun java packages
[23:38] <purpleposeidon> so, uhm, tunys, I hate you.
[23:38] <DeadKennedy2880> theresaf - yes, on wine
[23:38] <Dhraakellian> does anyone have a copy of the .deb for linux-image-2.6.24-17-generic lying around?
[23:38] <Blaqlight> theresaf, ok.ok.ok I give
[23:38] <tunys> purpleposeidon, I think we're even
[23:38] <ompaul> Alfarin, your welcome
[23:39] <tunys> hey, no one go to that linke
[23:39] <theresaf> nickrud, so is there any packages i can install to change this from live to real
[23:39] <purpleposeidon> tunys: What have I ever done to you? :P
[23:39] <Blaqlight> DeadKennedy2880, xp pro won't work because of the lack of IE
[23:39] <bringatowel> theresaf, office = open office
[23:39] <nickrud> theresaf a simple solution is to buy a cheap 20gb hard drive for linux (hoping it's not a laptop)
[23:39] <Steven1> craigbass1976: Exactly. I don't remember the syntax for it but I could base it off of the Linux ones for example. All I need is the grub name for the partition that Vista is on.
[23:39] <purpleposeidon> everyone: Yeah, I fixed it so that you don't want to go there
[23:39] <tunys> purpleposeidon, you turned every attempt of mine to annoy you into a goatse
[23:39] <theresaf> nick its a dell latitude x300 laptop here
[23:39] <tunys> which is so nineties
[23:39] <purpleposeidon> tunys: well....
[23:39] <DeadKennedy2880> blaqlight - i think crossover would handle that....
[23:40] <purpleposeidon> tunys: You actually pasted it? :P
[23:40] <nickrud> theresaf I've seen people install ubuntu on an external hard drive, it's possible you can do it on a usb key but I'm not sure.
[23:40] <Blaqlight> it would
[23:40] <TwoD> Hello all, I've got a weird problem: When configuring my comp to be a gateway for a second comp (cross-over cable) and my wireless internet access, I lost both my wired NIC icons in the nm-applet. I have no clue as how to get them back. One of them is connected to the other comp of course, and the other one was temporarily disabled via ifdown as I don't need it now.
[23:40] <Blaqlight> most parts of it work too... except for outlook
[23:40] <craigbass1976> Steven1, ok, kid's gone...  what's the linux partition (/dev/hda version) and what's it called in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:40] <theresaf> but its not a livecd as such as its persistant storage
[23:40] <Blaqlight> powerpoint word and excel all work with any special software (aside from wine)
[23:41] <theresaf> blaqlight i have to keep windoze for when i develop on C# and VB.net
[23:41] <Blaqlight> without*
[23:41] <Steven1> Linux partition is /dev/hdb3 and /dev/hdb4. Windows is on /dev/hdb1 but I need the grub name for it and how to edit grub.conf.
[23:41] <Steven1> craigbass1976: Linux partition is /dev/hdb3 and /dev/hdb4. Windows is on /dev/hdb1 but I need the grub name for it and how to edit grub.conf.
[23:41] <nickrud> theresaf but the environment is the live one, not a true install
[23:41] <craigbass1976> Steven1, I was wrong.  In ubuntu it's /boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:41] <DeadKennedy2880> blaqlight - i love crossover, getting things to work perfect can be a challenge but well worth it once running well.
[23:41] <NetEcho_> bringatowel,  uninstalled any openjdk stuff same issue
[23:42] <theresaf> so could i use the current version i am running to install a full version on another key?
[23:42] <amenado> !who
[23:42] <craigbass1976> Steven1, so I guess sudo gedit and open up that file.  paste the contents of it somewhere first and I'll have a look at it
[23:42] <Blaqlight> DeadKennedy2880, no experience with it. wine does all I need.
[23:43] <bringatowel> NetEcho_, hrm idk then, are you using firefox? maybe try with some other browser like opera, otherwise go to the ubuntu forums and look for info on java browser plugin
[23:43] <Blaqlight> theresaf, vb is all about windows I know.
[23:43] <serwrf> hi
[23:43] <Steven1> craigbass1976: Ok stupid question. Do I have to be in the Actual Ubuntu to do that or can I run it from the LiveCD as I am doing now?
[23:43] <amrik> Hey when I try to ssh into my Gutsy server it logs in but then it immediately logs me out. any ideas?
[23:43] <theresaf> amrik any errors when you do?
[23:43] <amrik> theresaf: none that i can see
[23:43] <craigbass1976> Steven1, you can do it fmro the livecd.  you have to find your installed Ubuntu's /boot/ folder though
[23:43] <Steven1> craigbass1976: Because I ran that command in terminal and a black text document opens.
[23:43] <theresaf> i had a problem the other day where my X session kept failing
[23:44] <amenado> amrik-> go see your /var/log/auth.log  file for hints
[23:44] <nickrud> theresaf if I had a 4 or 8 gig key I'd try it myself ;)
[23:44] <bringatowel> NetEcho_, you can also check if the sun java got installed properly, go to terminal and type: java -version
[23:44] <amrik> amenado: on this computer or on the server?
[23:44] <craigbass1976> Steven1, gedit should just fire up a gui text editor
[23:44] <nickrud> I'd love being able to work at other peoples machines with ubuntu rather than windows
[23:44] <amrik> amenado: i am authenticated fine
[23:44] <amenado> amrik-> on the host you are loggin into
[23:44] <Steven1> craigbass1976: Exactly. With nothing in it.
[23:45] <amrik> theresaf: is there a way to ssh and run a command immediately?
[23:45] <theresaf> ssh -c
[23:45] <Steven1> craigbass1976: Also, I have a partition for / and a partition for /home. How do I determine which is the boot partition without names?
[23:45] <NetEcho_> bringatowel, it shows the right version and if I use Opera it trys to have me install a browser plugin using a .RPM file for linux
[23:46] <craigbass1976> Steven1, right.  then you open up a file (big open button) and browse to the /boot/grub partition or your ubuntu INSTALL, not the livecd /boot/grub
[23:47] <theresaf> nickrud how can i start the install from here onto /dev/sdd1
[23:47] <Blaqlight> hmm wonder if I can install ubuntu on a headless keyboardless machine.
[23:47] <amenado> Steven1-> if you launched sudo grub and do  a  find /boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:47] <Steven1> craigbass1976: OK what are the terminal commands?
[23:47] <dstrbdfrk1> has anyone tried to acess hotmail thru evolution mail?
[23:47] <Steven1> amenado: Ah thanks!
[23:47] <bastid_raZor> Blaqlight; you would need to have ssh running in order to do that. once you get ssh up you are fine.
[23:47] <bringatowel> NetEcho_, hmm is there any other download option?
[23:48] <NetEcho_> bringatowel,  .bin file
[23:48] <bringatowel> dstrbdfrk1, does hotmail support pop3 or imap?
[23:48] <craigbass1976> Steven1, well, you could vi the file, but I figured that gedit would be easier, especially since ubuntu ship with vi and not vim
[23:48] <Steven1> amenado: That command gets this output. '(hd0,3)'
[23:48] <craigbass1976> Steven1, either way, you have to find the file and edit it
[23:48] <Blaqlight> I can't get it running because Id have no idea where to start.
[23:48] <dstrbdfrk1> im not sure do you know how i can find out ?
[23:48] <amrik> it seems i am getting an EOF when i ssh in
[23:48] <craigbass1976> Steven1, gedit will be the user friendly version
[23:48] <Steven1> craigbass1976: Yes but what partition is it on?
[23:48] <amrik> so thats immediately terminating any ssh connection i try
[23:48] <amenado> Steven1-> then thats where your /boot is. use that for your menu.lst entry
[23:49] <bastid_raZor> Blaqlight; actually, headless.. i'm not sure you can install while it being headless.
[23:49] <craigbass1976> Steven1, be careful now....   sudo fdisk /dev/sdb
[23:49] <theresaf> amrik are you trying to log in as root?
[23:49] <dstrbdfrk1> i tried the reciving as pop.hotmail.com
[23:49] <amrik> theresaf: no just normal user
[23:49] <Steven1> craigbass1976: 'Unable to open /dev/sdb'
[23:49] <dstrbdfrk1> and sending as smtp.hotmail.com
[23:49] <craigbass1976> Steven1, then type a p (for print) at the menu and copy that to a pastebin somewhere
[23:49] <dstrbdfrk1> but it didnt work
[23:49] <craigbass1976> Steven1, ahh, balls
[23:49] <Steven1> craigbass1976: Did you mean hdb1?
[23:50] <craigbass1976> Steven1, sure
[23:50] <carlyn> theresai: No I hadnt notice the pastebin - but I out of ideas - You may need the jre as suggested for what you want to install right. I needed lots of dependencies I wasnt aware of.
[23:50] <craigbass1976> Steven1, no, hdb
[23:50] <craigbass1976> Steven1, what's hda then?
[23:50] <Blaqlight> bastid_raZor, so without a keyboard is fine, but without a monitor would be a problem?
[23:50] <Steven1> Linux
[23:50] <Steven1> I think
[23:50] <theresaf> carlyn i will try a reboot and try a full install on the other key i have
[23:51] <bringatowel> NetEcho_, try this maybe? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[23:51] <Steven1> craigbass1976: I think hda is Linux or a swap for it. hdb1 is Vista.
[23:51] <Steven1> NTFS
[23:51] <Jessica> network manager has exited what is the command to get it back up ?
[23:51] <amrik> the ssh gets dropped immediately after the MOTD
[23:51] <jZed> I tried to update Dapper and it got stuck in the middle, did dpkg --configure -a ... what next?
[23:51] <amrik> i see the motd, ubuntu no warranty "no mail" and then boom connection closed
[23:52] <amrik> i dont ever get a bash prompt
[23:52] <bringatowel> !who | dstrbdfrk1
[23:52] <Jessica> !nm
[23:52] <Jessica> !network manager
[23:52] <NetEcho_> bringatowel,  I've already done that like 100x
[23:52] <carlyn> nickrud: Ubuntu thankfully repartions with Vista, too
[23:52] <Steven1> craigbass1976: http://pastebin.org/46858
[23:53] <TwoD> Does anyone know why nm-applet would not show working adapters?
[23:53] <carlyn> nickrud: but I want to try the USB on another computer - get to keep the whole HD then
[23:53] <dstrbdfrk1> has anyone in here ever used evolution mail to view there hotmail account   im pretty sure tis pop
[23:54] <Steven1> craigbass1976: Did you get that?
[23:54] <JFlash> how do I install xp without removing ubuntu?
[23:54] <bastid_raZor> Blaqlight; you have to input with a keyboard. you would need a keyboard also. why not hook up a monitor and keyboard get ubuntu installed then simply connect it to a router.. have ssh installed and you are fine headless and keyboardless.
[23:54] <ab2b> hello I managed to configure a local mirror on my pc using debmirror
[23:54] <Odd-rationale> dstrbdfrk1: i don't think hotmail provides pop for a free account...
[23:54] <Steven1> JFlash: Install XP first lol
[23:54] <Jessica> how can i start network manager
[23:54] <craigbass1976> Steven1, I did.  wow, fdisk is different these days in what it prints out...
[23:54] <dstrbdfrk1> ooh ok  thanx
[23:54] <Asymmetry> One more related question: What's your favorite DVD-ripping software?
[23:54] <ab2b> now I want to be able to point other pc's to this so they can install from there
[23:55] <ab2b> how do I do this?
[23:55] <Steven1> craigbass1976: Ah...um ok.
[23:55] <Odd-rationale> dstrbdfrk1: upgrade... :P
[23:55] <jZed> ripping fav: K3b ... Grip is ok too
[23:55] <jZed> for audio
[23:55] <craigbass1976> Steven1, you say that ubuntu is on /dev/hdb2?
[23:55] <bastid_raZor> dstrbdfrk1; gmail does though.. i use evolution to view my gmail
[23:55] <Steven1> craigbass1976: Not sure let me check.
[23:55] <TwoD> dstrbdfrk1, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200408 ?
[23:56] <bringatowel> NetEcho_, check out http://blog.eirikhoem.net/index.php/2008/04/30/firefox-java-problem-with-ubuntu-804-solved/ and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=522008
[23:56] <craigbass1976> Steven1, q gets  you out of fdisk.  type sudo mount when you're back in bash
[23:56] <carlyn> theresaf: sorry I'm also new to Ubuntu and out of ideas . no answer to my question either - bye
[23:56] <JFlash> Steven1:  but ubuntu is already installed
[23:56] <teethdood> which VM software would allow me to run a physical windows install as a virtual device?
[23:56] <craigbass1976> Steven1, and paste that output too
[23:56] <Steven1> craigbass1976: Gparted shows /dev/hdb with 4 partitions and 6.34MB of unallocated space.
[23:56] <Jessica> dosnt matter i have got it working :)
[23:56] <bringatowel> teethdood, VirtualBox or QEMU probably
[23:57] <Steven1> JFlash: Well then install XP on a different partion and then fix Grub.
[23:57] <bringatowel> oh wait hmm i dunno
[23:57] <teethdood> bringatowel: thanks, I guess you know where your towel is
[23:57] <dstrbdfrk1> twod, thanxx much
[23:57] <S4nD3r> Hi there. Uses virtualbox OSE and have USB support isnt easy to get. I tried a lot of tutorials, but I didnt get
[23:57] <bringatowel> teethdood, do you mean you already have windows installed to the hard disk?
[23:58] <fox-guy> my pc gets rebooted every time synaptic tries to install its downloads... what can i do?
[23:58] <Steven1> craigbass1976: http://pastebin.org/46859
[23:58] <NetEcho_> bringatowel, thanks I will try
[23:58] <serwrf> hi. People, I've tried Ubuntu and come to a conclusion: WINDOWS is a much better system to use than ubuntu.
[23:58] <craigbass1976> YAY  LAMP is working!
[23:58] <teethdood> bringatowel: yes. I dual boot linux and windows, would like to run the installed windows partition as a virtual device
[23:58] <S4nD3r> Hi there. Uses virtualbox OSE and have USB support isnt easy to get. I tried a lot of tutorials, but I didnt get
[23:58] <S4nD3r> sorry
[23:58] <serwrf> The reason is that you cant install software with Ubuntu
[23:58] <serwrf> With Windows you download and the software installs itself
[23:58] <amrik> how do i redirect sdterr to console?
[23:59] <serwrf> With Ubuntu, it never installs
[23:59] <Steven1> serwrf: What are you talking about? So does Ubuntu.
[23:59] <beastax> hey
[23:59] <neyugn> does anyone know how to fix this which is desktop icons disappear? like all my desktop icons is gone but i can see them in the file browser
[23:59] <beastax> is there an easy, gui way of configuring fstab?
[23:59] <bringatowel> serwrf, yes you can, go to Applications -> Add /Remove for starters
[23:59] <serwrf> I've downloaded form yahoo and other sites
[23:59] <Steven1> serwrf: Ubuntu is easy and installs itself as well.
[23:59] <serwrf> and it has NEVER installed
[23:59] <teethdood> serwrf: with windows you don't even have to download the software. It downloads and installs for you
[23:59] <teethdood> without even you knowing/wanting
[23:59] <bringatowel> teethdood, im not sure if those will let you do that exactly, but they might
[23:59]  * Dream falls asleep trying to edit disks\boot\grub\menu.lst :/
[23:59] <serwrf> I've used the included application install stuff in Ubuntu