[00:00] apachelogger: that makes no sens for me, all three packages are virtual, says pbuilder [00:00] maybe an update helps [00:12] apachelogger: -.- still pbuilder says that the other packages ar virtual [00:23] i have no clue how to fix it [00:25] good evening folks [00:26] nazdar mhb [00:27] how is kubuntu? [00:28] aww [00:28] we missed you mhb :) [00:28] hello again... curse this connection [00:28] no you didn't :o) [00:28] we did [00:28] we were just wondering the other day where you are [00:29] I had some more exams to finish [00:29] but now I am finally free [00:30] ah cool :) [00:30] did you rock them? ;-) [00:30] of course [00:30] hehe great [00:31] what's new here? [00:31] is KDE4 still just about plasma? [00:32] alpha 1 is working surprisingly well [00:32] that's good to hear [00:34] oh, I've gained a dog [00:34] that's new [00:35] why does it keep disconnecting? :o( [00:35] you missed my dog newness [00:35] I guess I did [00:35] what was that? [00:36] we stole a dog [00:36] from where? [00:36] someone wanted it killed, so we stole it instead [00:36] ah [00:36] and charged them for killing it [00:36] never a dull moment when you stay above a vet surgery [00:37] that's nice [00:38] is he having a good time with you? [00:38] seems to be [00:39] mhb: how is Praha? [00:40] sunny and hot [00:40] Riddell: pbuilder sais that libvamp-sdk1 is a virtual packages, i that true?! [00:40] i think not [00:40] but im a newbe [00:41] Xand3r: doesn't look like it is [00:41] but why pbuilder sais it [00:42] Riddell: so you say intrepid works fine, right? I guess I'll try and update to it, then. [00:42] Riddell: big dog? or a puppy? [00:43] mhb: that's not my exact words :) [00:43] I've also not tried updating at all [00:44] it broke my wifi is about the worst thing for me [00:44] Nightrose: neither [00:44] Riddell: my wifi unfortunately never worked out of the box [00:44] nothing to lose then :) [00:45] right... [00:45] * mhb reboots [00:45] * Riddell snoozes [00:45] good night Riddell [00:46] Nightrose: did apachelogger says anything about he is right now? [00:47] he is busy right now :P [00:47] what do you need? [00:50] information why pbuilder says the packages wich he has to install are virtual, they arent virtual, but if he dont installs them i dont know the complet depends and i cant finisch my work [00:50] you may show me the log! [00:51] although I am now going downstairs to get myself a whiskey [00:51] brb [00:51] ahem [00:52] only properly spelt whisky allowed in this channel [00:53] http://paste.ubuntu.com/23619/ [00:53] sorry for asking [00:53] omg [00:53] * apachelogger kicks that e and blames the beer he had earlier [00:55] so only scotch drinkers here? :) [00:57] any progress on the configuration tools? [00:57] for Kubuntu [00:58] or is everyone too excited about KDE4 to care [00:59] Xand3r: plz throw over the packaging, so I can try [00:59] mhb: configuration tools? [00:59] apachelogger: ? [01:00] Xand3r: send me the source packaging [01:00] kk [01:01] apachelogger: yes [01:01] well, apparently I am too excited about KDE 4 ;-) [01:02] mhb: configuration tools as in a replacement for guidance? [01:02] right [01:03] configuration tools as in "our tools suck, but no developer ever cared enough to do anything about it" [01:03] * apachelogger would, if he had a clue about python :| [01:03] right [01:04] I meant what we discussed during UDS, mostly [01:04] well, master Riddell will know === m1ts4r10n4s is now known as mitsarionas [01:05] apachelogger: is on the way [01:09] Xand3r: .orig missing [01:09] ?! [01:11] apachelogger: is away [01:13] Xand3r: are you sure your pbuilder is intrepidish and not hardyish? [01:14] intrepid [01:14] Xand3r: it doesn't give that message for me [01:14] Xand3r: sudo pbuilder create [01:14] mayb eit helps [01:15] *maybe it [01:16] if i make pbuilder creat he wants to creat an hardy [01:17] Damn, kdebase has a lot of ancient bugs [01:17] in LP [01:20] Xand3r: then change your .pbuilderrc [01:22] ~/.pbuilderrc not exist [01:22] dood [01:22] Xand3r: cp /etc/pbuilderrc ~/.pbuilderrc [01:33] apachelogger: again the same [01:35] Xand3r: run pbuilder update and paste the output [01:42] apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23624/ [01:44] Xand3r: you are missing universe [01:44] ups [01:45] how can i add this [01:45] in pbuilderrc [01:45] .pbuilderrc [01:45] ? how, i cant see here main [01:46] Xand3r: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23625/ [01:46] line22 [01:49] thx [01:49] added [01:49] run update [01:49] now making update [01:49] then it should work [01:49] ok thx [01:55] same error [01:55] *thumbs up* [01:55] impossible [01:55] Xand3r: plz paste the output of update [01:56] http://paste.ubuntu.com/23628/ [01:56] Get:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com intrepid Release.gpg [189B] [01:56] Get:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com intrepid Release [65.9kB] [01:56] Get:3 http://archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main Packages [1238kB] [01:56] Fetched 1304kB in 1min19s (16.4kB/s) [01:56] mmmm [01:57] Xand3r: update --override-config [01:57] or something like that [01:58] *thumbs up* [01:58] it works [02:02] i it possible to have pbuilder un compressed? [02:02] hm [02:02] I told you 2 times already :P [02:02] Xand3r: sudo pbuilder login [02:03] unpacks the chroot and drops you in [02:03] you also get the path where the chroot is, so you can throw your sources in [02:04] no i want that the base is uncompressed all time, cause it takes much time compressing and decompressing [02:05] dunno [02:05] probably possible somehow [02:05] Xand3r: still you need a clean tree for every build [02:05] so you need a new uncompressed version everytime eitherway [02:06] hmm [02:17] i am tired [02:17] tomorrow i will finish it [02:17] gn8 [03:13] * yuriy cheers on JontheEchidna [04:29] backports for gutsy only seems to include firefox 3 beta4. any plans to update to full release? === akonadi is now known as nihui [06:58] mhb: KDE4 is all about the clocks! === jords_ is now known as jords [09:12] Xand3r, apachelogger: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MouzMouz/PermanentPbuilderChroot [09:13] mhb! [09:14] jpds: hi [09:15] how's it going? :) [09:16] quite well, thank you [09:16] jpds: what about you? [09:16] jpds: have you managed to do anything major for intrepid yet? [09:18] mhb: No, unfortunatly... [09:20] jpds: too bad :o) [09:20] kubuntu needs active people, otherwise we're going to rot... [09:20] well, s/we're/it's/ [09:20] it's not me anymore, after all :o) [09:23] mhb: Well, I'm hard-disk less, which makes things difficult... [09:29] do you have any tips on how to "fix" a lag in irssi? Once in a while, it starts saying there's lag and disconnects after the 300s ... but the connection works fine [09:31] mhb: Do you have anything taking up much bandwidth? ("lsof +M -i" should show) - my lag is usually caused by other programs taking all the resources. [09:32] jpds: hmm, no, it shows just IRC. [09:33] hmm, prehaps trying a different Freenode server? (closer by?) [09:35] mhb: "/links" gives a list of them. [09:38] jpds: thanks [09:41] jpds: I must say I still don't feel ready to work on Kubuntu again [09:42] all that stuff I can't agree with (PackageKit, KDE4 all about some plasmoids, shipping apps just because they're KDE, even when they're inferior and crashy) [09:42] * jpds just needs a break for a while. [10:13] mhb: that sounds depressing [10:13] toma: not really, it's just opinions [10:14] mhb: sure, so you are working on other stuff now? [10:14] not yet (had to finish my exams) but I hope to do some work during the summer [10:15] ok [11:37] morning [11:41] mhb: sweeeeet [11:41] Xand3r: hoy [11:41] Xand3r: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MouzMouz/PermanentPbuilderChroot say thank you to mhb [11:41] apachelogger: i think you mean mouz ;-) [11:41] 'lo Xand3r [11:41] indeed [11:41] * apachelogger can't ready today [11:41] ;-) [11:41] Xand3r: say thank you to mouz [11:42] thanks mouz [11:42] I just fell out of bad [11:42] apachelogger: i wondering how you can be awake [11:43] well [11:43] I thought about not going to bed at all [11:43] anywho [11:43] uff [11:43] Nightrose: got a coffee for me? [11:44] * Nightrose hands apachelogger a cup of black coffee [11:44] apachelogger: slowly i get all depends [11:44] Nightrose: merci [11:49] hey there [11:51] hi [11:52] urg undeclared name in src/Window.h:126 [11:52] what i have to do? [11:53] that is what i got http://paste.ubuntu.com/23686/ [11:56] i have realy no clue what i have to do now [11:58] paste src/Window.h:126 [11:58] ok [11:59] toma: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23690/ [12:04] Xand3r: sorry, can't help you. abs should be defined by the cmath include [12:05] but #include [12:05] is uncomment [12:06] no, that is how it is supposed to be [12:06] # is not a comment in c++ [12:10] ok i have no clue about c++, thx for your help [12:13] i found with google that gentoo fixed the probme-.- [12:14] link? [12:14] http://209.85.135.104/search?q=cache:ZkpZKnT-A3sJ:https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi%3Fformat%3Dmultiple%26id%3D219539+%22src/Window.h:126:+error:+there+are+no+arguments+to+%27abs%27%22&hl=de&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=de&client=firefox-a [12:14] I found a replacement for kmilo: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/osdvolume?content=83176 [12:15] toma: but you cant view the patch [12:15] Xand3r: yes i can, patch looks sane [12:18] is it possible that you can write a patch for me? [12:18] Xand3r: why, what is wrong with that patch? [12:19] nothing [12:20] i have thought wrong [12:20] i cant see the patch [12:20] Xand3r: want me to paste it somewhere for you? [12:20] if you want to [12:21] Xand3r: http://rafb.net/p/KHkKy182.html [12:26] toma: thanx a lot [12:29] you're welcome [12:30] ^^ [12:56] smarter: kmilo did more than volume :P [12:56] smarter: but go ahead and give the app a sanity check and package it [12:56] there's a little problem with it [12:56] it uses kmix dbus calls [12:57] smarter: so? [12:57] IIRC we did nothing different with kmilo [12:57] which is fine, but kmix seems to have "globalmaster" and "localmaster" [12:57] and you can only change globalmaster via kmix gui [12:57] and the dbus calls use the localmaster [12:57] then we should get it fixed in kmix, right? ;-) [12:57] yep [12:58] I asked for a kmix dev on #kde-devel 'cause I don't really know the code and don't see why there's too types of master [12:59] s/too/two [13:15] apachelogger: i coud cry [13:16] the depends took a long time, the patch too and now after the patch another error -.- http://paste.ubuntu.com/23695/ [13:18] hum [13:18] p.u.c and p.d.o both unreachable [13:18] * apachelogger senses the world end [13:19] .. [13:19] Xand3r: I hope you know what the problem is :P [13:20] no [13:20] otherwise i would not cry [13:20] cool [13:20] Xand3r: you should learn reading build errors [13:21] Xand3r: scroll to the line where the error seems to appear [13:21] then read in it's surrounding whether there is some very noticable error [13:22] src/ladspa/RubberBandPitchShifter.h:18:20: error: ladspa.h: No such file or directory [13:22] well, pretty obvious what you need to do ;-) [13:23] Xand3r: in 93% of build errors this one is due to a missing external dependency [13:23] delet the import? [13:23] 5% due to internal include error due to earlier build error [13:23] 2% due to broken $world [13:24] Xand3r: why would you delete an import? Oo [13:24] cause it imports an file wich not exist [13:25] Oo [13:25] ehm [13:25] to reuse my sentence from yesterday [13:25] using that attitude you could just remove all the sources, then you have a 100% probability that don't get any include errors [13:26] grrrr [13:26] Xand3r: ever wondered why you need build-dependencies? ;-) [13:26] this error is exactly why [13:27] the -dev packages pull in loads of .h files, some of these .h files get included in the .cpp/.h files and get used while compilation ... one could say the -dev packages ship files other developers can use to improve the own lazyness/producitivty [13:28] Xand3r: using that knowledge, how are you going to fix this build error? :P [13:28] ladspa-sdk-dev -.- [13:29] Xand3r: well, almost ;-) [13:29] Xand3r: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+package/ladspa-sdk [13:29] ldspa-sdk-dev is the old one [13:29] nowadays we jsut have ladspa-sdk [13:29] *just [13:30] oh ok thx [13:30] though I think -sdk-dev would be working as well, since -sdk lists it as provided [13:37] apachelogger: the script wants to creat an /user/includes/rubberband dir [13:38] but it gets permissions denied [13:42] Xand3r: paste your debian/rules [13:43] http://paste.ubuntu.com/23700/ [13:47] apachelogger: was meinst du? [13:51] :| [13:51] Xand3r: add [13:51] export DH_VERBOSE=1 [13:51] then build again [13:51] and paste the buildlog afterwards [13:51] ok [13:52] * apachelogger is all of a sudden in packaging mood [13:54] apachelogger: looks like the same error [13:55] yes [13:55] I need the output :P [13:56] kk [13:57] apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23702/ [13:58] :/ [13:59] Xand3r: either you fix the buildsystem to respect DESTDIR, or you determine all files that need to be installed manually and use debian/install [13:59] eitherway you should drop upstream a mail asking for a more dynamic buildsystem [13:59] mom i had a mistak [14:00] Xand3r: ? [14:00] too embarrassing [14:05] apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23703/ [14:06] now that didn't change anything :P [14:06] Xand3r: /usr/bin/make -C . install DESTDIR=/tmp/buildd/rubberband-1.0.1/debian/rubberband/ [14:06] the buildsystem doesn't respect DESTDIR [14:06] so you can patch the buildsystem to either respect DESTDIR or at least run install to the proper directory [14:07] or just install all the files manually [14:07] or you make upstream fix the buildsystem and stop the packging until upstream did so [14:09] what means the build system doesn't respect DESTDIR? [14:09] make install DESTDIR=foo << things should install in foo/ [14:10] because the Makefile should do something like install bla $DESTDIR/bin/ [14:10] yea but if the build system dont respect it, my system is the bad on or? [14:10] no [14:10] the Makefile do something like install bla /usr/bin [14:11] yes [14:11] it shuold [14:11] it doesn't use $DESTDIR, the path is "hardcoded" [14:11] this is a bug in the app, not in your system [14:11] it should not be too hard to fix [14:12] but you should send upstream a mail about this [14:12] everyone should just use cmake [14:13] for some one like you it would not be hard, i am sitting hier several hours to come at this point [14:13] apachelogger: ^^ [14:13] apachelogger: +1 ;) [14:13] Xand3r: you sit there serval hours [14:13] next time you do it in one hour [14:13] then in 5 minutes [14:13] i hope [14:14] i becom agressive i see the time pass and nothing is finished [14:15] so what would be the best? [14:16] apachelogger: what do you think? [14:16] well [14:16] hmmm [14:16] let me try something [14:17] ok [14:21] what a load of deps -.- [14:21] yes [14:21] do you want to know all i found? [14:21] * apachelogger runs apt-get install the 5th time [14:21] plz [14:22] debhelper (>= 5), autotools-dev, cdbs, pkg-config, libsamplerate0-dev, libsndfile-dev, fftw3-dev, vamp-plugin-sdk, ladspa-sdk [14:22] have fun [14:23] apachelogger: what are you tryig? [14:24] building :P [14:24] oh, finally [14:24] * apachelogger launches a make -j5 [14:25] ehhhhhhhhhm [14:25] Oo [14:25] Xand3r: something is wrong with your packaging [14:26] or maybe my pbuilder [14:26] very strange [14:26] * apachelogger investigates [14:27] ah [14:27] my pbuilder [14:27] sorry [14:28] what is with you pbuilder? [14:29] nevermind [14:29] ok [14:29] hmmmm [14:30] Xand3r: before make-install gets executed you have to run configure --prefix=DEBINSTALLTHINGY [14:30] then make install should work properly [14:35] * Xand3r gets headaches [14:35] Xand3r: https://perso.duckcorp.org/duck/cdbs-doc/cdbs-doc.xhtml [14:35] should help you [14:36] uh, works like charm :) [14:36] try DEB_CONFIGURE_EXTRA_FLAGS := --prefix=$DESTDIR [14:37] no no [14:37] no? (: [14:37] it needs to be executed after make [14:37] but before make install [14:37] uh [14:37] the makefiles are bound to @prefix@ [14:38] build/nameofthepackage:: [14:38] ./configure --prefix=$DESTDIR [14:38] I'd prehook it [14:39] common prehook actually [14:39] prehook? [14:39] otherwise it gets executed for every package [14:39] smarter: cdbs has a prehook for almost everything [14:40] # This rule is called before the common-install target. It's currently only [14:40] # used by debhelper.mk, to run dh_clean -k. [14:40] common-install-prehook-arch:: [14:40] common-install-prehook-indep:: [14:40] buildcore.mk [14:41] omg [14:42] my headaches become worser [14:43] Xand3r: why? [14:43] im feeling like, i am at the begining of all, i had never learnd a thing -.- [14:44] Xand3r: I think you are overrating that [14:45] Xand3r: you already did what is needed right now [14:45] i think i dont understand what to do exactly, after hours of work [14:45] Xand3r: open the Makefile.in in an editor [14:46] k [14:46] there you find [14:46] INSTALL_BINDIR := @prefix@/bin [14:46] and a couple of others [14:46] @foobar@ is usually a variable from the buildsystem [14:47] in this very case @prefix@ is exactly the --prefix=foobar from ./configure [14:47] so INSTALL_BINDIR directly depends on what prefix is passed to ./configure [14:47] k [14:47] with a normal build ./configure will be executed _once_ with _/usr_ as prefix [14:48] that is why you make install fails [14:48] the makefiles use @prefix@ for the install target... which is /usr right now [14:48] yes [14:48] so what you need to do is to change @prefix@ just before you run make install [14:49] by executing ./configrue --prerfix$(DEB_DESTDIR) [14:49] where DEB_DESTDIR is a var for debian/rubberband in this case [14:49] ok [14:49] Xand3r: so you do what you already did once ... digg through cdbs and search a target appropriate for this use [14:50] as I stated above the IMHO best target is in buildcore.mk and is called common-install-prehook-arch [14:50] so you just add [14:50] common-install-prehook-arch:: [14:50] [TAB]./configure --prefix$(DEB_DESTDIR) [14:51] looks easy [14:51] Xand3r: well, it is, that's why I said you overrate the problem here [14:52] you basically did that already for another package, the only difficulty here was to find out that you can influence the make install prefix with ./configure [14:52] but if i fail at such a easy thing [14:53] but if i fail at such a easy thing [14:53] ubs wrong window [14:53] Xand3r: become more self-confident and stop overrating problems :P [14:54] thats my mum telling me every day [14:57] configure: error: unrecognized option: --prefix/tmp/buildd/rubberband-1.0.1/debian/rubberband/ [14:58] mistak found [14:58] oi [14:59] hi [15:00] Xand3r: --prefix= [15:00] hey nixternal [15:00] apachelogger: i knoe [15:00] so much for you fail at easy things :P [15:01] as i said mistake found, i realy found it :p [15:01] <\sh> apachelogger: please play kiss: crazy crazy nights on radio amarok ;) [15:02] \sh: I don't have a dj setup right now [15:02] <\sh> apachelogger: das ist dumm ;) [15:02] besides, I am not member of the amarok team anymore, so I guess I shouldn't do that at all ;-) [15:03] <\sh> apachelogger: what? [15:03] <\sh> apachelogger: since when and why? [15:04] <\sh> apachelogger: but for heavens sake, we could setup an red5 server and do some rock shows on leonov.tv ;) [15:04] i gonna hate this package [15:05] <\sh> Xand3r: you can't hate something what you never loved ;) [15:05] \sh: for about a week now, due to missing motivation and certain team members behaviour [15:05] Xand3r: why? [15:05] non-standard-toplevel-dir [15:05] :) [15:05] indeed [15:05] <\sh> apachelogger: really sad to hear [15:05] file-in-unusual-dir [15:05] Xand3r: $(DEB_DESTDIR)/usr [15:06] \sh: well, leaves more time for KDE and Kubuntu ;-) [15:06] what would i do without you? [15:06] Xand3r: think for yourself :P [15:06] ^^, i think i would not package any thing, so thanks for your help [15:07] * apachelogger should stop that [15:07] too much help distrubs the process of learning [15:07] -.- [15:07] you sound like my teacher [15:09] apachelogger: when we could meet us again? it was realy funny in berlin, the next linuxtag is too far away [15:12] apachelogger: now i am at the point with the lib file -.- [15:14] i have no clue how i can give sonames [15:16] Xand3r: froscon [15:16] froscon, placed where? [15:16] st. augusting [15:16] ...bonn... [15:16] Xand3r: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-sharedlibs.html [15:17] thx [15:20] apachelogger: my way http://tiny.cc/KJERm [15:20] \sh: dpkg-deb: building package `leonov' in `../leonov_0.0.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb'. [15:21] apachelogger: using ldconfig? [15:21] <\sh> apachelogger: rocker rocker :) [15:21] * \sh loves apachelogger... [15:21] Xand3r: ? [15:22] apachelogger: if you ask, i was wrong [15:22] Xand3r: http://maps.google.de/maps?f=d&hl=de&geocode=&saddr=obbornhofen&daddr=Sankt+Augustin,+Rhein-Sieg-Kreis,+Nordrhein-Westfalen,+Deutschland&mra=pe&mrcr=0&sll=50.627306,7.978334&sspn=0.970474,2.845459&ie=UTF8&ll=50.590212,8.025513&spn=0.97123,2.845459&z=9 [15:22] my way :P [15:23] you pasted my way :p [15:23] apachelogger: building/configur the lib with ldconfig? [15:23] true [15:24] scru it tough [15:24] ? [15:24] Xand3r: can you please write a proper question [15:27] apachelogger: 1. i want to build a shared lib? [15:27] you almost always want to build a shared library [15:28] ok [15:29] the only thing i have to do is to rename librubberband.so to librubberband.so.soversion [15:30] or is there any mechanism? [15:32] or did i get something wron? [15:32] Xand3r: does it not hav a soversion? [15:32] *have [15:32] if it had one it would not come the error [15:32] meh [15:32] Xand3r: what is the exact error? [15:33] E: rubberband: sharedobject-in-library-directory-missing-soname usr/lib/librubberband.so [15:33] well [15:33] I have no idea :P [15:33] ?!! [15:33] Xand3r: defenitely not rename [15:34] Xand3r: just ignore the error for now and throw the .so in the librubberband0 package [15:34] ? [15:34] never done somthing like this [15:35] of course you did [15:35] the transitional package?! [15:35] urg [15:35] Xand3r: just add a new binary stanza to debian/control [15:35] according to spec it has to be named librubberband0 [15:35] ok [15:35] wait a mom [15:35] where 0 is the soversion, but since it does not have one at all -> 0 [15:36] then you install the files using debian/rubberband.install debian/librubberband0.install .... [15:36] hi, I tried to install kde4.1-beta 2 from the PPA for leonov, buleonov says it still isn't installed [15:36] am I missing some thing? [15:36] brandonperry_: #leonov please [15:37] ok, thanks [15:39] apachelogger: the new control http://paste.ubuntu.com/23711/ [15:40] Xand3r: Depends: rubberband [15:40] wrong [15:40] Xand3r: but finish the package splitting [15:40] we can do the fine tuning later on [15:40] ok [15:42] \sh: https://launchpad.net/leonov/+announcement/569 <-- typo release vs. released [15:43] \sh: http://leonov.tv/content/leonov-launchpad-desktop-client-first-coming "Right now the GTK & QT frontends are not separate, which will be done in one of the next releases." <-- QT vs. Qt [15:45] <\sh> apachelogger: login, I'll approve you, and you can change it yourself? ;) [15:46] rubberband.install http://paste.ubuntu.com/23712/ [15:46] librubberband0.install http://paste.ubuntu.com/23713/ [15:47] apachelogger: what du you think about? [15:48] Xand3r: what about a -dev package ;-) [15:49] no, pleas [15:49] Xand3r: get a random lib package and take a look at it [15:49] \sh: Invalid CAPTCHA token. [15:49] OpenID registration failed for the reasons listed. You may register now, or if you already have an account you can log in now and add your OpenID under "My Account" [15:50] apachelogger: ? [15:50] <\sh> apachelogger: well known openid drupal bug [15:50] * apachelogger demands usability [15:50] <\sh> apachelogger: drupal still needs an account, even when you come with openid...it's really a known bug [15:51] well, drupal may create the stupid account based on the data provided by my openid server [15:51] <\sh> apachelogger: yes..that's the bug ;) [15:51] lam0rs [15:51] \sh: ok, pending approval [15:52] <\sh> apachelogger: you are now "project member" [15:53] hooray! :D [15:53] * apachelogger hands \sh a beer [15:54] apachelogger: of wihch project? [15:55] \sh: now I would just need permission to edit that page ;-) [15:55] Xand3r: leonov [15:55] ah ok [15:56] <\sh> apachelogger: now? [15:56] \sh: nope [15:58] apachelogger: what i have to finde in that file? [15:58] Xand3r: whcih file? [15:59] the random lib file [16:00] Oo [16:00] [16:49] Xand3r: get a random lib package and take a look at it [16:00] well [16:00] find out what belongs to the lib package [16:00] what to the -dev package [16:00] and if available in the -bin package [16:00] omg [16:03] <\sh> apachelogger: now..damn..I'm on the run [16:04] \sh: nope :P [16:04] anyway, we have more important stuff to do [16:04] \sh: backspace in the password field makes leonov goes down [16:04] <\sh> apachelogger: it's a story..and you have now the permission :) [16:04] <\sh> apachelogger: file bug /me is on the run to get drunk very soon ;) [16:04] :D [16:04] okay [16:05] \sh: what packaging would you propose? [16:05] l-kde & l-gnome, depending on l-common [16:05] or l depending on l-kde | l-gnome? [16:06] <\sh> apachelogger: hmm...leonov depends on leonov-common and leonov-kde | leonov-gnome [16:06] <\sh> apachelogger: we just have a problem with py-lp-bugs [16:07] <\sh> apachelogger: right now, it's a version not released [16:07] so? [16:08] \sh: I think l-common doesn't make much sense if we create l which depends on kde|gnome [16:09] apachelogger: lib http://paste.ubuntu.com/23721/ ; lib-dev http://paste.ubuntu.com/23722/ ; bin http://paste.ubuntu.com/23723/ [16:09] Xand3r: usr/lib/pkgconfig/rubberband.pc [16:09] belongs into -dev [16:09] .a as well IIRC [16:09] <\sh> apachelogger: we deal with that tomorrow :) btw....0.0.1a.tar.gz is available with a serious bugfix ;) [16:09] not sure about .cat [16:09] Xand3r: are the .cat files binaries or plain text? [16:09] <\sh> anyways off now :) [16:10] <\sh> cu later [16:10] \sh: have fun [16:12] apachelogger: how i can find it out? [16:13] Xand3r: file CATFILE [16:14] if it doesn't tell that it is a binary please paste it's content [16:14] mom [16:14] wait [16:14] it is in the deb how i get that file? [16:15] Xand3r: dpkg-deb --help [16:18] vamp-rubberband.cat: ASCII text [16:18] paste please [16:19] vamp:vamp-rubberband:rubberband::Time > Timestretch Analysis [16:19] thats all [16:19] looks very -devish to me ;-) [16:19] maybe [16:21] apachelogger: thats all? [16:21] yes [16:21] the control [16:22] apachelogger: now the fine tuning? [16:22] Xand3r: send me the source packaging [16:23] or upload to revu [16:23] in the control i dont build the dev === wolfger__ is now known as wolfger [16:24] apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23725/ [16:24] thats the control [16:25] why upload things i know they aer not finished [16:29] line 6 needs a line break -> exceeds 80 characters per line [16:29] hm [16:29] done [16:31] Xand3r: librubberband0 needs a Depends: ${shlibs:Depends [16:31] -dev doesn't depend on rubberband [16:31] but needs shlibs:Depends as well [16:31] also -dev needs to depend on librubberband0 (= ${binary:Version}) [16:32] i only can install a dev if i have the base so i need the depend on rubberband [16:32] Xand3r: wasn't it who you told me that a -dev package always pulls in the lib as well? [16:32] Xand3r: rubberband is not the base [16:32] lib is the base [16:32] I have never seen a -dev pulling in a binary package [16:32] binary as in -bin [16:32] ok [16:33] Xand3r: lib and -dev need different sections [16:34] grrr [16:34] Xand3r: oh, btw, the (= ${binary:Version}) is super important for -dev [16:34] otherwise you might cause all sorts of breakage [16:34] Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 5), autotools-dev, cdbs, pkg-config, libsamplerate0-dev, libsndfile-dev, fftw3-dev, vamp-plugin-sdk, ladspa-sdk, librubberband [16:34] the package can't build-depend on a package that is built form it [16:35] so what does librubberband0 do there?! [16:35] emm emm, dont knoe [16:35] *know [16:35] lib and -dev need descriptions [16:35] and [16:35] the description for rubberband is.... [16:35] bad [16:36] its from the HP [16:36] that doesn't make it good [16:36] Rubber Band is free, open source software written [16:36] by Chris Cannam. It is distributed under the GNU General Public License. [16:36] Proprietary licensing for commercial applications is also available. [16:36] I, as a user am not interessted who wrote that if I wanted to know, I would look into the debian coprgithy file, same for license [16:36] and since it is in ubuntu universe it is of course floss [16:36] so that is redundant [16:37] I, as a user, also don't want to get a commercial application license [16:37] I don't even know what that means [16:37] grr [16:39] i want to package not to descript it [16:41] apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23727/ [16:41] actual control [16:41] Xand3r: s/actual/current [16:42] and you want to provide best use experience to our users, so you want a good description [16:42] rubberband depends librubberband0 (= ${binary:Version}) [16:42] Package: librubberband0 [16:42] Section: utils [16:42] wrong [16:42] ok [16:43] missing whitespace in Depends:${shlibs:Depends} for the lib [16:43] well, add descriptions to the lib and -dev and I am happy [16:43] Section lib? [16:43] Xand3r: you might just want to copy the rubber band description and make it reflect, that this is the library/development stuff [16:44] Xand3r: does that section exist ;-) [16:44] i don know [16:44] i search [16:44] that is what I meant when I said that too much help distrubs learning :P [16:44] it is libs [16:45] then use that [16:45] i do [16:48] apachelogger: current version http://paste.ubuntu.com/23728/ [16:48] i hope i done everything you wanted [16:51] Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 5), autotools-dev, cdbs, pkg-config, [16:51] libsamplerate0-dev, libsndfile-dev, fftw3-dev, vamp-plugin-sdk, ladspa-sdk, [16:51] librubberband0 (= ${binary:Version}) [16:51] Description: Shared libs for rubberband [16:52] Description: devel files for rubberband [16:52] Xand3r: those contain things I don't like [16:52] [17:42] rubberband depends librubberband0 (= ${binary:Version}) [16:52] so why it is wrong [16:52] urg [16:53] i know not for building for using [16:54] apachelogger: but what is with the short description? [16:54] well [16:54] look at them [16:54] i do [16:54] and try to think like a user who has to read it [16:55] and? [16:57] apachelogger: where is the problem, i have no [16:57] devel means? [16:57] libs means? [16:58] why is Shared upper case and devel not? [17:00] http://paste.ubuntu.com/23730/ [17:02] apachelogger: changed the things [17:04] Section: devel [17:04] Xand3r: there is a better one [17:04] "These is the shared library" << should be this [17:04] "These is the shared library" << should be "This is" [17:04] smarter: thx [17:06] i think apachelogger lost the endurance, with me and my faults [17:06] not really important, but for multiple binary packages, the usage is to do Description: [newline][newline]This package contains the shared libs/developement headers/whatever [17:08] Xand3r: see for example libavcodec1d and libavcodec-dev [17:11] smarter: ? [17:11] [18:06:32] not really important, but for multiple binary packages, the usage is to do Description: [newline][newline]This package contains the shared libs/developement headers/whatever [17:14] i only know the wy to read the discription via adept, but there are no dots shown, so ther exist a nother way or? [17:17] Xand3r: try with apt-cache or aptitude [17:17] apt-cache show [17:18] ok thx [17:18] If you're not already familiar with apt-get/apt-cache/aptitude/dpkg you should learn to use them [17:18] of cours [17:19] now i know what you mean with the dot [17:30] rubberband is now up on revu [17:43] smarter: maybe you could review my package? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=rubberband [17:43] sure [17:43] thx [17:44] but I will not be able to ack it, IANAM ;) [17:44] ack? [17:44] advocate [17:45] ok nevermind, bt if i could shure that all is right i am happy [17:56] take now libdevel [17:56] sorry apachelogger saw your comment right now [18:00] but this is up now [18:01] Xand3r: reviewed [18:02] you could also add in the patch file a comment saying that you took the patch from Gentoo [18:02] hmm [18:02] (The pedigree of a patch should actually be clear always, so, yes, it should/must be in the changelog or named appropriately.) [18:03] i think to put it in the change log wo be better === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde [18:20] Xand3r, smarter: comment out dh_verbose rather than removing it [18:20] makes me happier, as I will always switch to verbose when revuing :P [18:21] ^^ [18:22] in the changelog * FTBFS solved with the rubberband-1.0.1-gcc43.patch from gentoo [18:22] i that ok? [18:23] smarter i dont got wich information is infront an wich is after the [18:24] [18:08:18] Xand3r: see for example libavcodec1d and libavcodec-dev [18:25] Xand3r: librubberband0-dev.install is missing a final newline [18:25] oh i fix it [18:26] dh_install -prubberband [18:26] cp -a ./usr/share/man/man1/rubberband.1.gz debian/rubberband/./usr/share/man/man1/ [18:26] cp: cannot stat `./usr/share/man/man1/rubberband.1.gz': No such file or directory [18:26] dh_install: command returned error code 256 [18:26] wat? [18:26] how that could be [18:26] mom [18:27] but in the old deb the rubberband.1.gz existed [18:29] think about it [18:29] look at the path [18:29] i had build it and had no problem [18:31] Xand3r: do you know the problem yet? [18:31] now cause i have not this problem [18:32] of course you have [18:32] and cant imagen how you coud have one [18:32] build it [18:32] done [18:32] dood [18:32] Xand3r: what file is that? [18:32] urg i have the same error [18:32] -.- [18:32] apachelogger: that is the manpage [18:33] right, did you ever install a manpage via debian/install? [18:33] yes [18:33] well [18:33] with cdbs? [18:33] no [18:33] and from a directory other than debian/? [18:34] stop [18:34] i had [18:34] yesterday [18:34] .... [18:34] show me [18:34] no [18:34] anyway [18:34] think conflict in my brain [18:34] Xand3r: man dh_installman [18:35] what is that thing doing [18:35] do you see the conflict? [18:35] istalls my man page [18:36] it installs an manpage.1 and i have put an manpage.1.gz? [18:36] * apachelogger uberheaddesk until his brain drops out [18:37] Xand3r: did you ever think about why you actually need to create a manpage? [18:37] well, because upstream doesn't install one [18:37] yes [18:37] in the erroring .install however you list an upstream manpage for installation [18:37] even though upstream doesn't install manpage [18:37] that is a bit pointless, right? [18:39] yes [18:40] but my dh installs the manpage not the upstream [18:41] * apachelogger needs a drink [18:41] Xand3r: look at the path [18:41] ah [18:41] screw it [18:41] Xand3r: remove the god damn first line in rubberband.install [18:42] and fix the other paths to start with debian/tmp/ [18:42] * apachelogger gets some wine [18:43] am i so horrible? [18:46] he's just frustrated, that's all. [18:46] (try asking in #ubuntu-motu if you have further questions.) [18:49] it just hurts [18:49] * ScottK-laptop hands apachelogger some valium. [18:49] ScottK: cheers [18:50] Xand3r: dh_installman installed the manpage in the initial package [18:50] thats the reason it got listed [18:50] now you try to install that file, even though it doesn't exist because you yourself add it so dh_installman can install it [21:10] what is default sound server in Kubuntu hardy? PA or something else [21:10] artsd on KDE 3 [21:10] the void on KDE 4 [21:42] apachelogger: it doesnt use PA [21:42] pulse audio == PA [21:43] right [21:43] crap [21:43] I didn't say it does [21:43] good thing it doesn't [21:43] no [21:43] i dont want to backport libflashsupport since it still causing crashes [21:43] i was hoping to get away with asound-plugins for depend on flash 10 [21:44] but if its not default the user would have to change it to default other wise libflashsupport will be needed [21:45] apachelogger: thanks for the info [21:46] gnomefreak: I don't understand, I don't have libflashsupport installed nor PA and flash (mostly) works? [21:46] hola jpds [21:47] smarter: flash 9? [21:47] yep [21:47] smarter: talking about flash 10 [21:47] flash 10 requires libflashsupport or asound-thing ? [21:47] the deps were changed due to sound and crashing [21:47] smarter: yes [21:47] * smarter downloads flash10 and test [21:48] smarter: hallo. [21:48] smarter: give me a mintute i will pastebin them [21:48] smarter: my PPA has them [21:48] ok [21:49] smarter: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/472498 [21:49] # [21:49] |Depends: libflashsupport [21:49] # [21:49] Depends: libasound2-plugins [21:49] that is important part [21:53] gnomefreak: flash10, konqueror4, no asound-plugins, no libflashsupport and no crash [21:55] I'm on 64bits so I'm using nspluginwrapper too === pgquiles_ is now known as pgquiles [21:55] smarter: thats why [21:56] nspluginwrapper doesnt need those IIRC [21:56] its been a while since i build it but it runs off itself i think [21:57] maybe we should use nspluginwrapper on 32 bits too? (: [21:57] flash seems a lot more stable with it [21:57] smarter: i doubt it since its a wrapper for 32 from 64 [21:58] I know, but it probably works(maybe with some tweaking) on 32bits too [22:05] beside, flash right-click menu look funny in konqueror without nspluginwrapper [22:06] smarter: i'm using it on 32bit [22:07] at least when it crashes it doesn't take firefox with it [22:07] gnomefreak: see ^ :p [22:07] and works great on konq4 [22:07] yep [22:07] someone posted a deb package on ubuntuforums so i gave it a shot.. liked it, kept it :) [22:08] gribelu: i didnt say it doesnt work on 32 bit i dont see a reason for it just more clutter. and flash is always gonna be a BS app since they give linux the leftovers from windows [22:08] gribelu: was it me? [22:09] let's hope gnash will become a good replacement for flash [22:09] gnomefreak: yeah but it does help me.. i'm a webdev, always have MANY tabs open in FF and when flash crashes it takes FF down too [22:09] with the wrapper it doesn't crash the browser, just the wrapper :) [22:10] gribelu: right since firefox isnt runing in nspluginwrapper so it will only crash apps in nsplugin-wrapper [22:10] thats how it is ablet o be used in 64bit [22:10] afternoon [22:11] 32bit flash running against 64 bit FF [22:11] anyway for me the wrapper is a great thing.. i wouldn't mind having it as an optional package in the repos :D [22:11] i mean for 32bit [22:12] then again flash10 beta seems more stable (not too much :) ) [22:12] maybe the final version will be better [22:13] at least they added pulseaudio support so now there's no need for that lib i forget the name.. it caused many problems [22:16] apachelogger: I found a solution for kvpm with DEB_DH_INSTALL_SOURCEDIR and debian/install to avoid the "../" :) [22:16] smarter: can you help me with my package? [22:16] Xand3r: what's your problem? [22:16] smarter: he watchs tv [22:16] then I'll let him do so [22:17] emm i got configure-generated-file-in-source but i dont understand the explenation from the lintian.debian hp [22:17] so i dont know what to do [22:17] the orig tarball contains a config.log file which is usually generated by ./configure [22:18] lintian asks you to add a "rm path/to/config.log" in the clean target of debian/rules, and to ask the upstream devs to remove this file from the tarball [22:19] ah ok so i ad this path first of all? [22:20] is the the position of the command important? [22:20] Xand3r: how did you got your orig tarball? [22:20] *get [22:21] from the hp [22:21] hp? [22:21] homepage [22:21] I've downloaded upstream tarball and there's no config.log, so you must have done something with it [22:21] ups [22:21] it's a .tar.bz2, did you repack it to .tar.gz? [22:22] of course [22:22] you should always document that sort of thing [22:22] the best way is to add a debian/watch file [22:22] and then a "get-orig-source" in debian/rules which download, tar xf, and repack the app [22:23] smarter: it is not in the orig.tar.gz [22:23] its in the normal dit [22:23] *dir [22:23] may i tried to compile it times ago and forgotit [22:23] yep, it's in your diff oO [22:24] fakeroot debian/rules clean should remove it [22:24] (to see how to do the debian/watch and get-orig-source thing, look for example at my package of kvpm: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kvpm/ubuntu) [22:26] smarter: sudo make -f debian/rules clean done nothing it says there is no rule to make clean [22:27] remove the config.log file, build in the source dir, then fakeroot debian/rules clean and see if the file is removed [22:27] (and you should you fakeroot, not sudo make -f) [22:27] this is no fakeroot [22:28] s/this/there/ [22:28] sudo aptitude install fakeroot [22:30] ok there is but i didn't used it up to now, exept if i use the command pdebuild [22:30] but there is an more important error: sharedobject-in-library-directory-missing-soname, i could i fix such a thing? [22:31] Xand3r: try dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot && fakeroot debian/rules clean [22:31] and see if the config.log file is still there [22:31] don't know, never packaged a library [22:31] try with lintian -Ii and pastebin the error [22:32] (I == uppercasel i) [22:34] the dpkg-.... dont work, unmet depends [22:35] Xand3r: then download the deps [22:35] urg yea [22:36] you could simply remove the config.log, redo pdebuild and see if the config.log is still in the .diff.gz [22:36] smarter: the result of lintin -Ii http://paste.ubuntu.com/23795/ [22:36] smarter: that is what i will do [22:43] smarter: and i have a debian-changelog-file-is-a-symlink [22:43] i understand what it is [22:43] and that is not the best [22:43] it's normal with cdbs [22:43] ignore this warning [22:43] ignoring [22:44] the firstime allowed, i cant belive it^^ [22:44] ok [22:44] ^^ [22:45] but the soname is tricky [22:48] is here some one who has packaged some libs already and could help me? [22:49] ScottK: if you are here alien-arena builds fine and works fine i upoaded it to PPA [22:50] grr [23:19] ok the current version is up on revu now, open error is the soname of the lib, if you know a solution, pleas tell me http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=rubberband [23:28] so i go to bed, c ya smarter an thx for your help [23:28] 'night Xand3r [23:37] <_gunni_> apachelogger: Just in case you are here and remember the discussion about kmilo yesterday, i found this today: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KOSD?content=81457 [23:37] <_gunni_> Have to leave for bed now, so wont reply if you answer. [23:43] i updated my cmake when it came down with the beta2 repo and now i get nice clean cmake output with the kde svn building but no details if it bombs out. any pointers on where to look? i'm using the bashrc scripts btw. [23:47] gnomefreak: Did I approve that one (lost track as I approved ~20 today)? [23:47] ScottK: not yet you wanted someone to build it [23:48] its built and tested and on my PPA for checking if you need [23:48] gnomefreak: What bug and please say so in the bug if you haven't? [23:48] i did :) hold on ill get it [23:49] ScottK: bug 200954 [23:49] Launchpad bug 200954 in hardy-backports "Get Alien Arena 2008 (v7.0) into hardy" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/200954 [23:49] Looking. [23:50] although without changing it you really cant use source from PPA since PPA doesnt allow *backports as targets [23:51] That's not a problem. The archive admins had a script they use to pull straight from Intrepid. [23:51] Approved. Thanks for testing. [23:52] ScottK: np any others you need tested let me know [23:53] Sure, but anything that's not marked confirmed probably needs testing, so feel free to go after anything that interests you. [23:55] k