[00:08] <codster> what is the command to mount a HDD?
[00:08] <codster> sdc
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> codster: sudo mkdir /mnt/drive
[00:09] <Crell> Hi folks.  I've recently upgraded my Thinkpad T61 from Gutsy to Hardy.  Although audio was working previously and ThinkWiki claims it should "work out of the box", I am getting no audio output.
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> codster: sudo mount /dev/sdc /mnt/drive
[00:09] <Crell> There are no errors from the application; just no sound is emitted.
[00:09] <Crell> Any idea what I should check next?
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> Crell: updates can cause issues, clean install is much better
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> Crell: google for ubuntu T61 and you might get a walkthrough
[00:10] <Crell> So I've heard.  I don't think a full reinstall is fesible at the moment, though.
[00:10] <codster> mount poiint does not exsist
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> Crell: you may just have to remodprobe some module
[00:10] <Crell> Hm.
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> codster: yeah you gotta make it, read the first command i wrote
[00:11] <codster> okay
[00:11] <codster> there we go
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> codster: read EVERYTHING when someone helps
[00:12] <yurimxpxman> I can't change the resolution in zsnes.. doesn't seem to give me any reason for the error. Any ideas?
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> codster: you can mount anyplace you want really
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> yurimxpxman: do you have 3d accelleration
[00:13] <yurimxpxman> ActionParsnip: yes
[00:13] <Crell> ActionParsnip: Nothing useful from Google yet, save for links to the article I'm already reading on thinkwiki.
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> yurimxpxman: run it from command line without &, you'll get some outputs
[00:14] <greenfishx3> who do you automatically sudo a whole kde session?
[00:14] <greenfishx3> how*
[00:14] <Crell> greenfishx3: You don't want to do that.
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> Crell: ive seen too many folks get issues with upgrades so I always clean install
[00:14] <Crell> Great.
[00:14] <greenfishx3> Crell, yeah but I just like to know hte answer sir :)
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> greenfishx3: do you mean install all of kde
[00:15] <greenfishx3> yeah
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> greenfishx3: sudo apt-get install kde-desktop
[00:15] <greenfishx3> tx
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> greenfishx3: use tab autocomplete for the package, i dont know exactly what it is
[00:16] <Crell> greenfishx3: Oh, I thought you wanted to run KDE itself as root, not install KDE.
[00:16] <greenfishx3> I do that as well
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> Crell: ive talked to some idiots that do, so annoying
[00:16] <greenfishx3> sorry english isnt my native language
[00:17] <Crell> ActionParsnip: Yeah, as I said, you don't want to do that. :-)
[00:17] <greenfishx3> a friend is asking how to sudo an entire kde session
[00:17] <greenfishx3> yeah but its his call
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> greenfishx3: id advise against, it doesnt actually achieve anything at all
[00:18] <Dragnslcr> greenfishx3- the package you want is kubuntu-desktop
[00:18] <yurimxpxman> ActionParsnip: it just says -> Could not set 1440x900-GL video mode.
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> Dragnslcr: cheers bro
[00:18] <elseba> hello i'm into trouble
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> yurimxpxman: can you do 1024 x 768>
[00:18] <elseba> i need some help
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> sup elseba?
[00:19] <yurimxpxman> ActionParsnip: no
[00:19] <greenfishx3> ActionParsnip: yeah I get it but he still wants to do  it :)
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> greenfishx3: his loss
[00:20] <leonardo_> hola, alguien que hable español??
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> yurimxpxman: what graphical output you using for zsnes?
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> !es | leonardo_
[00:20] <yurimxpxman> ActionParsnip: I dunno... I don't know how to check, either. There's nothing about it in the man page.
[00:20] <leonardo_> ok, gracias
[00:20] <Crell> ActionParsnip: Any idea what I would need to modprobe, if that is the solution?
[00:21]  * Crell hasn't had to dick around with audio drivers in years.
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> Crell: i wouldnt know. you'll have to search round. Its usually something small like that
[00:21] <elseba> ActionParsnip: when system starts, video configuration is 640*480 and i can't change that. Moreover, i "loose" near 3 cm of screen
[00:21] <greenfishx3> so youre not gonna tell me is that it? then please say so sir, otherwise im just taking up space
[00:21] <Crell> Joy.
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> yurimxpxman: check the settings, try using opengl
[00:22] <greenfishx3> okay then
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> greenfishx3: log in at command line then run it as sudo
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> or have him log in as root
[00:26] <greenfishx3> ActionParsnip: hes running it on vmware, so theres no danger
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> tell him hes an absolute idiot from me too
[00:26] <greenfishx3> he tells me, the password isnt saved, so he has to do it everytime
[00:26] <greenfishx3> sure lol
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> still doesnt warrant it, it achieves nothing and leaves your system vulnerable to nastys
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> its one of thereasons linux is more secure than linux
[00:27] <greenfishx3> ActionParsnip: but this is on vmware....
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> then itll get compromised as if it was running natively
[00:28] <yurimxpxman> is there a command to automatically configure your xorg.conf file for an nvidia driver?
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> if he keeps a backup of the image then its not so bad but its effort that can be avoided
[00:28] <greenfishx3> ActionParsnip: my apologies for asking then
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> !nvidia | yurimxpxman
[00:29] <phrek> what is a good program to burn avi files to dvd..to play in a dvd player?
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> phrek: devede is ok
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> asrock might have a linux driver too
[00:50] <m1ts4r10n4s> hi... question... if i have some some scripts that i want in my path...do i make a dir, put them in, and add it to my path? or it there a more elegant solution?
[01:00] <intelikey> > stdin
[01:15] <myk_robinson> hey. quick compiz question. My "cube" is only two sided.. cant seem to find and option to fix this. Anyone able to ehlp?
[01:19] <myk_robinson> i dont seem to have the horizontal desktop setting for some reason..
[01:39] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d6ae19f20
[01:50] <jasael> hola
[01:52] <mrksbrd> i need help with a .tar file.....I installed the build-essential package.....in the directory where I extracted file, but when I attempt to do ./configure I get this error..........bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[01:54] <dragon_> hello all
[01:54] <mrksbrd> hello dragon
[01:54] <dragon_> all of us are linux users?
[01:54] <mrksbrd> yup
[01:55] <dragon_> kool
[01:55] <mrksbrd> u new to linux?
[01:55] <dragon_> yes new to linux
[01:55] <dragon_> still learning
[01:56] <mrksbrd> welcome
[01:56] <dragon_> where can I find free software for Ubuntu
[01:56] <dragon_> thanks
[01:56] <mrksbrd> what r u looking for?  anything special?
[01:56] <dragon_> brutus and all that's stuff. someboy tried to get into my network today and I want to return the favor
[01:57] <mrksbrd> lol...a little hack-back?
[01:57] <dragon_> i do have his IP. yes
[01:58] <mrksbrd> !brutus
[01:58] <dragon_> i'll have to keep researching LOL
[01:59] <mrksbrd> u can try a simple remote connection
[01:59] <mrksbrd> kmenu....internet......krdc
[01:59] <dragon_> still learning the commands in linux
[02:09] <BluesKaj> jowdy
[02:09] <BluesKaj> or howdy
[02:09] <mrksbrd> hey blues
[02:10] <mrksbrd> u anygood w/.tar files?
[02:10] <BluesKaj> I've installed a few
[02:11] <mrksbrd> i cannot get this one to even start the procedure
[02:11] <BluesKaj> tar -xzvf nameoffile.gz ?
[02:11] <mrksbrd> attempting to install decss....every way I try i'm running into deadends
[02:12] <mrksbrd> i have it extracted already in my home directory
[02:12] <mrksbrd> but when i go to run ./configure
[02:12] <mrksbrd> tells me no such directory
[02:13] <mrksbrd> only file that is in there is makefile
[02:13] <BluesKaj> try make, sometimes theres no .cof
[02:13] <BluesKaj> conf
[02:13] <intelikey> mrksbrd you can't run what doesn't exist.   try  make
[02:14] <mrksbrd> when I do ./makefile or ./make still same error
[02:14] <mrksbrd> i'm lost
[02:14] <intelikey> yep.
[02:14] <BluesKaj> not./make , just make
[02:14] <mrksbrd> lol
[02:14] <intelikey> you don't do either of those.  you do   "make "
[02:15] <mrksbrd> from terminal right
[02:15] <intelikey> right
[02:15] <intelikey> !b-e | mrksbrd
[02:18] <mrksbrd> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23631/
[02:18] <mrksbrd> this is what i see in terminal now
[02:19] <intelikey> and ?
[02:19] <mrksbrd> what next? is that it?
[02:20] <intelikey> sudo make install
[02:20] <intelikey> maybe
[02:20] <mrksbrd> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[02:21] <intelikey> are you sure there are no READ.ME INSTALL.TXT install.sh   or anything in that dir?
[02:22] <intelikey> there really should be a howto with the source.   or an install script or something
[02:23] <mrksbrd> there is a readme .....but even that is like reading german to me......i wish automatix was still up & running it was so simple that way
[02:24] <intelikey> !find css-auth
[02:25] <mrksbrd> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23632/
[02:25] <mrksbrd> this is what the readme states
[02:27] <intelikey> reset ?   reset is a common linux command for resetting the terminal/console
[02:28] <mrksbrd> that's what it says I don't know......this can't be this difficult to do
[02:29] <intelikey> mrksbrd where did you get this source,  i'll have to look at the package before i can help you.
[02:29] <mrksbrd> decss site
[02:30] <mrksbrd> i just did a search for decss
[02:30]  * BluesKaj wonders whether libdvdcss2 accomplishes the same thing as css-auth interms of stripping DRM and regional codes from the dvd.
[02:31] <intelikey> BluesKaj one can only hope.
[02:34] <intelikey> http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/01/25/0827258
[02:38] <BluesKaj> mrksbrd, what are trying to do with the app , copy dvds ?
[02:40] <intelikey> i think i scared him off.
[02:42] <BluesKaj> he's still here, googling maybe
[02:42] <intelikey> maybe.
[02:42] <intelikey> reading from slashdot even ?
[02:42] <mrksbrd> i'm still here @ work....switching back & forth
[02:43] <BluesKaj> mrksbrd, I
[02:43] <BluesKaj> 'll repeat
[02:43] <BluesKaj> mrksbrd, what are trying to do with the app , copy dvds ?
[02:43] <mrksbrd> make duplicates ;)
[02:44] <BluesKaj> then you really don't need auth-css. libdvdcss2 will do it along with kubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:45] <gizmobay> Can someone tell me how I can shift the image on my screen? It's clipped off a bit on the right
[02:46] <intelikey> mrksbrd you do realize that those files are dated 1999  ?     try the ubuntu way  as BluesKaj has mentioned, if it doesn't work for you i'll try to help you with the css-auth
[02:47] <mrksbrd> libdvdcss2....i tried that file as well says something like it may be outdated or mayy be packaged in with something else
[02:47] <intelikey> !dvd
[02:47] <intelikey>              ^
[02:48] <intelikey> !Medibuntu
[02:48] <intelikey>              ^
[02:48] <BluesKaj> mrksbrd, kubuntu-restricted-extras as well
[02:49] <BluesKaj> and of course ffmpeg
[02:49] <BluesKaj> in case you run into avi files along the line
[02:50] <snakes> hey guys. does anyone know how I can check and fix an HDD for bads under linux, app o something like that?
[02:53] <mrksbrd> let me double check the repos, but i'm pretty sure that is in there as well
[02:55] <intelikey> snakes badblocks ?
[02:55] <snakes> yeah
[02:55] <intelikey> snakes yeah.
[02:56] <intelikey> snakes man badblocks ;man fsck
[02:56] <snakes> I'm getting some errors on it 'cause of 'em, and I got some data that needs recovered for work
[02:56] <snakes> I did that, 'cause I've been searchin' on google a lot, but didn't help me much
[02:56] <intelikey> snakes can you mount the fs ?
[02:57] <intelikey> snakes if you can mount it.   copy out the needed data.
[02:57] <snakes> it's mounted, it's another HDD with data on it
[02:57] <snakes> that's the tricky part, it's failing on me when copying
[02:58] <snakes> I am going to change it, not gonna keep it like this, but I need the data
[02:58] <intelikey> can you isolate the file containing the bad sector/s
[02:58] <snakes> I dunno how to
[02:58] <snakes> I'm new in linux
[02:58] <appu> how to install gnome in kubuntu
[02:58] <intelikey> does it throw  i/o error messages ?   or just fail to read ?
[02:59] <snakes> just fails
[02:59] <intelikey> appu sudo apt-get install gnome   or any other package manager
[03:00] <appu> intelikey thanks for the support
[03:00] <intelikey> snakes note the path to the data, then open a konsole and cd to that path.
[03:01] <intelikey> appu welcome.    if you want the "ubutnu" experance then   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop    but if you just want to add gnome   i sujest the gnome package.
[03:01] <snakes> ok
[03:01] <intelikey> snakes any error cd'ing to there ?
[03:01] <snakes> no
[03:01] <intelikey> ok good
[03:02] <appu> thanks again, i never knew the difference,
[03:02] <intelikey> snakes sudo cp -a * ~/     # you can translate * to one file, one dir or just * for everything there.
[03:03] <LetsGo67> How do I use an iPod in iTunes in Ubuntu?
[03:03] <intelikey> !rockbox
[03:03] <LetsGo67> KDE based?
[03:03] <snakes> also once failed like this, when playing music from it, the songs appeared not to be there, was running a playlist, and the songs were playing for a few seconds then they were no longer appearing, so did the direcotries, they were all disapearing one by one
[03:03] <intelikey> LetsGo67 no.  but you probably just want amarok
[03:04] <LetsGo67> No Shuffes for RockBox.  :(  (By the way, using Xubuntu)
[03:04] <geek_> LetsGo67: apparently amarok has ipod support
[03:05] <intelikey> LetsGo67 #xubnntu has xubuntu support
[03:05] <LetsGo67> !rhythmbox
[03:05] <LetsGo67> !ipod
[03:06] <intelikey> we're flattered that you prefer us here.   but it's easier on all if you use the channel that pretains to your release LetsGo67
[03:06] <mrksbrd> ok i officially give up..........the repo is in there but still cannot find the file.....thanks anyway guys
[03:07] <intelikey> mrksbrd check your pm's
[03:07] <mrksbrd> sorry closed that window out
[03:07] <intelikey> i repeted.
[03:08] <intelikey> snakes does the copy fail/succede ?
[03:08] <snakes> wait, gotta plug in the HDD
[03:09] <snakes> brb
[03:09] <mrksbrd> ty for all your help
[03:09] <intelikey> you cd'd to something that wasn't there ?
[03:09] <intelikey> mrksbrd welcome
[03:10] <intelikey> and without errors too...  snakes is talented!
[03:10] <jals> how come i can't copy a file even using sudo?
[03:10] <jals> doesn't that override everything?
[03:10] <intelikey> jals to where ?
[03:11] <jals> i'm trying to move template files for right click menu cos there's a bug
[03:11] <intelikey> jals it doesn't override readonly file systems
[03:11] <jals>  /usr/share/templates/ to /usr/lib/kde4/share/templates
[03:11] <intelikey> jals umm close kde and do it from a console
[03:11] <jals> i am
[03:12] <jals> i get cp: omitting directory `/usr/share/templates/'
[03:12] <intelikey> and; sudo mv /usr/share/templates/ /usr/lib/kde4/share/
[03:12] <jals> hmm
[03:12] <intelikey> cp is not recursive without a switch
[03:12] <intelikey> man cp
[03:12] <jals> ah
[03:12] <jals> that's the issue i guess
[03:12] <intelikey> :)
[03:12] <intelikey> prolly
[03:13] <jals> oops
[03:13] <jals> thanks!
[03:13] <intelikey> welcome
[03:13] <intelikey> that's what we're here for
[03:13] <jals> didn't fix the crashing bug
[03:13] <jals> but maybe a reboot will
[03:13] <intelikey> to make you feel that way when you see what you did... :)))
[03:14] <nitin> i just downloaded scid ( a chess database program) using apt-get, but it doesn't show in the k-menu-games -
[03:14] <snakes> ok, so now I've plugged it back in, and it's running fine, I hate it when it's playing with me like this. I'm transfering the data now to mymemory stick
[03:14] <snakes> and maybe if I have time and will still be working,I'll transfer my music too
[03:14] <intelikey> snakes just copy out the data to a safe place.
[03:15] <snakes> intelikey: thanks for the help
[03:15] <intelikey> welcome.
[03:15]  * intelikey reminds * anger is no substitute for keeping good backups
[03:16] <jals> woop, that did fix it
[03:17] <geek_> intelikey: hell yeah
[03:17] <intelikey> nitin check your kmenueditor   see if you have some things "hiden"
[03:18] <intelikey> geek_ heaven yes.  hell no.
[03:18] <batata> heloo
[03:18] <intelikey> batata
[03:19] <batata> opa
[03:19] <batata> tem muita gente q fica aki
[03:19] <batata> sem falar nada
[03:19] <batata> offline a horas
[03:19] <intelikey> !de
[03:20] <intelikey> batata sorry i don't speak it.
[03:20] <d1os_mio> thats greek
[03:20] <batata> oh man
[03:20] <d1os_mio> batata, what language was it?
[03:20] <batata> are you a suporter
[03:20] <batata> portuguese
[03:20] <batata> i use kurumin
[03:20] <intelikey> !pt
[03:20] <wally_> hola
[03:20] <batata> its based on kubuntu
[03:21] <batata> i couldnt configure ubuntu
[03:21] <batata> to use internet directly from a pc with windows
[03:21] <batata> and i had to install this kurumin(national distribtution)
[03:21] <intelikey> you just add the "default gateway" to the routing table.    now from the windows side i don't know what you have to do.
[03:21] <batata> this distribution haves samba and other hot stuff we need
[03:22] <jhow> Ola... alguem ai poderia me ajudar com uma duvida sobre o FIREFOX 3????
[03:22] <batata> the pc is conected directly in the windows pc
[03:22] <batata> lol
[03:22] <batata> fala ingles mano
[03:22] <geek_> batata: crossover cable?
[03:22] <nitin> intelikey: i was able to run it by typing scid in the terminal.
[03:22] <batata> aki é internacional
[03:22] <batata> yep
[03:23] <batata> have you kde 4?
[03:23] <geek_> batata: run internet connection sharing on the windows system. plug in the linux system :)
[03:23] <jhow> yep. Batata, u can help me?
[03:23] <geek_> was easy the last time i tried
[03:23] <batata> in this distribution
[03:23] <batata> in the ubuntu no
[03:23] <jhow> hi, someone can help me about FIREFOX 3?
[03:23] <intelikey> nitin yes   but that doesn't "slove your problem"  kmenuedit  should.
[03:24] <batata> hey guys
[03:24] <batata> what system requirements for kde 4?
[03:24] <intelikey> !kde4
[03:24] <batata> but its not final
[03:24] <batata> its unstable
[03:24] <jhow> I want to know how to install firefox 3 in my kubuntu. Because a just know install programs with the official reposotories
[03:24] <intelikey> it's incomplete
[03:25] <batata> kubuntu 8.04 vem com kde 4?
[03:25] <intelikey> jhow the official repos are all that is "officially supported" here too
[03:25] <batata> to com o kurumin aki e veio o kde 3.5
[03:25] <silvelix> hi epimeth
[03:26] <silvelix> hi crashmaster
[03:26] <mrksbrd> jhow: sudo apt-get install firefox thru terminal or use add/remove
[03:26] <batata> é
[03:26] <batata> usa o synaptic
[03:26] <intelikey> !ff3
[03:26] <jhow> Yep, but the ff3 is not on apt-get
[03:26] <batata> zsnes dont play sounds here
[03:27] <intelikey> jhow the bot says otherwise
[03:27] <intelikey> !info firefox3
[03:27] <mrksbrd> intelikey....would you finally belive I found a .deb file for it under medibuntu repos......
[03:27]  * mrksbrd is now going to bash his head with a hammer
[03:27] <silvelix> i downloaded it from firefox.com
[03:27] <intelikey> mrksbrd yes.    i had the bot post that hour ago
[03:28] <intelikey> !ff3 | silvelix
[03:28] <mrksbrd> lol.....didn't see it....must have been away from the pc
[03:28] <silvelix> ok
[03:28] <jhow> Yeah,, i too downlaoded it from mozilla.com but i don't know how to install it correctly
[03:28] <silvelix> iĺl install it through adept?
[03:29] <intelikey> mrksbrd it helps when you are looking for help to check what the helpers are saying that might help you.    so next time help us help you by recieving the help we offer  ;/
[03:29] <silvelix> jhow: yea me too itś in .tar extension
[03:29] <intelikey> if that helps ...
[03:29] <silvelix> adept only has ff2
[03:29]  * mrksbrd says sorry & won't let it happen again
[03:30] <jhow> yeah... just have ff2 or the ff3 beta i want the ff3
[03:30] <asobi> how can i get ark to extract files with foreign characters?
[03:30]  * mrksbrd begs for forgiveness
[03:32] <nitin> will firefox 3 be added in gutsy repository
[03:32] <intelikey> nitin prolly not.   backports  maybe.  but don't count on it.
[03:33] <intelikey> you do have backports active ?
[03:33] <jhow> when, nitin???
[03:34] <intelikey> interesting that ubottu says ff3 is in the hardy repos and yet when asked to find it, says it's not in the hardy repos.
[03:34] <intelikey> ubottu you are a moron
[03:34] <Dragnslcr> !info firefox
[03:34] <intelikey> ubottu no, "you are a moron!"
[03:36] <asobi> how does one update to ff3?
[03:36] <intelikey> what release are you running ?
[03:37] <intelikey> asobi ?
[03:37] <asobi> 2
[03:37] <intelikey> :|
[03:37] <intelikey> no.
[03:37] <asobi> gutsy
[03:37] <intelikey> ok.
[03:38] <intelikey> get the .deb from mozilla  if they have a .deb
[03:38] <intelikey> else get what ever they have for ubuntu
[03:39] <silvelix> i have ff3 in tar how can i install it?
[03:39] <silvelix> iḿ new to linux
[03:39] <Jucato> !info firefox-3 gutsy-backports
[03:39] <intelikey> extract the contents   cd into the dit it makes    read the README
[03:39] <Jucato> er..
[03:39] <Jucato> !info firefox-3.0 gutsy-backports
[03:40] <Jucato> intelikey, asobi ^
[03:40] <intelikey> Jucato it is in the backports ?   ok.    tov
[03:40] <intelikey> here you take over a while,  i'm out.
[03:40] <asobi> ext3 is a bad fs
[03:40] <Jucato> intelikey: can't
[03:40] <Jucato> I'm leaving
[03:40] <asobi> so it's in repo?
[03:40] <intelikey> asobi yes.
[03:41] <intelikey> so the bot says
[03:41] <Jucato> asobi: yes. enable the gutsy-backports (Unsupported updates) repository
[03:41] <asobi> last i checked it was dev stuff
[03:41] <asobi> ?
[03:41] <intelikey> !info firefox-3.0 dapper-backports
[03:41] <Jucato> asobi: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=firefox&searchon=names&suite=gutsy-backports&section=all
[03:42] <Jucato> see all firefox-related packages in gutsy-backports
[03:43] <asobi> how do i enable the backport repo
[03:43] <intelikey> i didn't think it was supposed to make the back-porch of gutsy   but obviously i'm not paid to think...
[03:44] <intelikey> !backports
[03:44] <Jucato> !repos
[03:44] <intelikey> !packaging
[03:45] <intelikey> asobi  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources
[03:45] <silvelix> hi epimeth
[03:46] <intelikey> silvelix not likely that he's around his box.   that looked like a "time out + reconnect"
[03:46] <silvelix> ok
[03:47] <silvelix> can you help me connect to galaxynet
[03:47] <silvelix> i have a friend who will teach me kubuntu there
[03:47] <intelikey> never tried.  so probably not.
[03:47] <silvelix> ok thanks anyway
[03:47] <intelikey> is it IRC ?
[03:47] <silvelix> yes
[03:48] <silvelix> this is my first time using konversation
[03:48] <intelikey> try /server irc.galaxynet.<*>       .net or .org or what ever it is.
[03:48] <silvelix> ok
[03:48] <asobi> how can i get ark to extract files with foreign characters?
[03:49] <intelikey> asobi not sure what you're asking,   utf8 chars in the file names   or what ?
[03:49] <stoffer> I installed libdvdcss2 so I could play dvd's, and it worked for a couple, but now I've got one that doesn't work
[03:50] <stoffer> kaffeine is saying to install libdvdcss again
[03:50] <stoffer> is there anything else I need?
[03:50] <asobi> accents shows up as ? in the rar, when i try to extract, it won't let me
[03:50] <intelikey> !dvd | stoffer have a look here
[03:51] <intelikey> asobi umm set your session to unicode/utf8 ?
[03:51] <asobi> how?
[03:52] <intelikey> kmenu settings language  ?
[03:52] <intelikey> asobi that's just out of my league,  i don't actually use kde
[03:52] <asobi> haha
[03:53] <intelikey> !unrar
[03:53] <intelikey> maybe use the konsole and   ^
[03:53] <intelikey> !info unrar-free
[03:53] <silvelix> intelikey: thanks galaxynet is working now
[03:53] <intelikey> silvelix welcome.
[03:57] <asobi> hmmm
[03:57] <asobi> the ff3 i got is a beta
[03:58]  * intelikey hides.
[03:58] <vecciora> Help! My Kubuntu error!
[03:59] <intelikey> help it error ?     i can do that... >:]
[03:59] <vecciora> I don't know but now KDM always run in not 4:3.
[04:00] <vecciora> The jumping icon after clicking an item in the menu now just the colour not the icon.
[04:01] <silvelix> ok there is one problem i can solve
[04:01] <vecciora> *color
[04:01] <silvelix> in my toolbar
[04:01] <silvelix> the digital clock
[04:01] <intelikey> vecciora   sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm4     i think.    unless you mean it's starting the wrong session.  then logout and select session /login/ make default
[04:01] <silvelix> i cant find my current time
[04:01] <intelikey> kde's clock is a joke.
[04:01] <intelikey> and a bad one at that.
[04:02] <vecciora> The desktop running fine in 4:3.
[04:02] <silvelix> lol
[04:02] <silvelix> i have installed ff3
[04:02] <stoffer> where can I download libdvdread3?
[04:02] <stoffer> I don't have synaptic installed
[04:02] <vecciora> But it wasn't 4:3 in KDM.
[04:02] <silvelix> it is in the adept manager
[04:02] <stoffer> in a deb that is
[04:02] <stoffer> the tar isn't ./configuring for me
[04:03] <vecciora> I've never encounter the screen resolution problem in Ubuntu.
[04:03] <intelikey> !medibuntu
[04:03] <stoffer> ah
[04:03] <vecciora> Does it's mean I must reinstall Kubuntu?
[04:03] <intelikey> yep
[04:04]  * intelikey </rolls eyes>
[04:04] <vecciora> The most annoying thing in Ubuntu is screen resolution problem.
[04:04] <shoklowitz> Hi everyone. I have a small doubt. I'm running Kubuntu, and I need to set it up so that I can lock the screen so that my colleagues can see the information on the desktop without being able to log in.
[04:04] <shoklowitz> vecciora: Do you have an nVidia graphics card by any chance?
[04:04] <stoffer> is libdvdread included within libdvdcss?  Because I don't see libdvdread on medibuntu
[04:05] <shoklowitz> Anyone know how I can set up a transparent screen lock?
[04:05] <intelikey> stoffer err umm i dont think so.    but. it may be in another repo...
[04:06] <intelikey> !find libdvdread
[04:06] <intelikey> !info libdvdread3
[04:06] <intelikey> universe
[04:06] <vecciora> I like Ubuntu.
[04:06] <intelikey> they have declassified it to universe now
[04:06] <vecciora> But I have a problem with it.
[04:07] <vecciora> It's about screen resolution.
[04:07] <shoklowitz> vecciora: Do you have an nVidia graphics card?
[04:07] <vecciora> shoklowitz: I've ATi
[04:07] <shoklowitz> Has your card been detected?
[04:07] <intelikey> shoklowitz have you tried setting the screensaver to a blank picture and adjusting it to transparent ?
[04:07] <vecciora> shoklowitz: Dunno.
[04:07] <nuxil> hi all.. i have  this strange issue. some of  the kde apps cant use internett,, like ktorrent | konqueror. etc etc.anyone got a clue why?
[04:08] <shoklowitz> Alright
[04:08] <shoklowitz> Go to
[04:08] <shoklowitz> Menu>System>Hardware Drivers Manager
[04:08] <vecciora> Often my Ubuntu be error.
[04:08] <vecciora> I'm use KDE.
[04:08] <shoklowitz> nuxil_: which apps are able to access?
[04:09] <vecciora> Often my Ubuntu run in 4:3 and often no.
[04:09] <nuxil> shoklowitz konversion is about it,
[04:09] <vecciora> This make me confused.
[04:09] <shoklowitz> Um Vecciora check in system>hardware drivers manager
[04:09] <nuxil> i think. kde is confused about my nic devises. because. all other apps works  fine "gtk"
[04:10] <vecciora> shoklowitz: There is no such menu like that.
[04:10] <shoklowitz> You mean Konversation?
[04:10] <nuxil> yeah
[04:10] <intelikey> nuxil konsole command " ping -c 1 64.233.167.99 "
[04:10] <nuxil> i block ping
[04:10] <nuxil> intelikey, its not a fw issue
[04:11] <intelikey> that's not testing fw it's testing dns
[04:11] <vecciora> Am I need to install fglrx?
[04:11] <nuxil> my inet is eth2 and i think. kde thinks its eth0 somehow
[04:11] <asobi> i downloaded a .bz2 for ff3, what do i do with it?
[04:11] <shoklowitz> vecciora: Open up your terminal window
[04:11] <intelikey> but i'll stay out of it...  suits me just fine.
[04:11] <shoklowitz> And type sudo kde-jockey
[04:12] <intelikey> !kdesu
[04:12] <shoklowitz> Intelikey, could you tell me the technical difference between kdm and kdm-kde4?
[04:12] <vecciora> My real problem is often Ubuntu run in 4:3 and often not in 4:3 like 1280:960.
[04:12] <vecciora> *1280x960
[04:13] <intelikey> shoklowitz sorry. no.
[04:13] <vecciora> It must 1280x1024.
[04:13] <nuxil> intelikey, its related to kde. bc all other types of apps works "gtk" ones.
[04:13] <shoklowitz> I understand that Vecciora, but you might need to check if you have the drivers for your card installed
[04:13] <intelikey> nuxil check the bug reports
[04:14] <intelikey> !forums
[04:14] <intelikey> !bugs
[04:14] <vecciora> shoklowitz: So I must install fglrx?
[04:14] <intelikey> it's there nuxil   ^
[04:15] <vecciora> shoklowitz: My monitor can't run finely. Always be blank with a "HV Frequency Over Range" message after fglrx installed and used.
[04:16] <shoklowitz> First you'd probably want to check if your card has been detected, it might running with generic drivers. For example, my laptop would run at low resolution on generic drivers, once I installed the nVidia drivers it worked at higher resolutions.
[04:16] <vecciora> shoklowitz: Yeah it was detected.
[04:16] <shoklowitz> The quickest way to find out if your graphics card has been detected, I think, would be to start kde-jockey
[04:16] <shoklowitz> So it shows up on Kde-jockey?
[04:16] <vecciora> shoklowitz: Command not found.
[04:17] <shoklowitz> sudo kde-jockey
[04:17] <mr---t-> he's using Ubuntu I think
[04:17] <shoklowitz> Oh
[04:17] <vecciora> shoklowtiz: There is no command like that.
[04:17] <nuxil> intelikey, where? what keywords you search on
[04:17] <shoklowitz> mr-t: What's the equivalent on Ubuntu?
[04:18] <mr---t-> I don't know what you are trying to do
[04:18] <vecciora> Does it function? sudo apt-get install fglrx-driver
[04:18] <intelikey> nuxil craineal ram,   i've see that same symptom described a houndred times in here.   and the answer is on the forums   also there was a bug report on it.
[04:19] <nuxil> huu craineal ram?
[04:19] <mr---t-> But he should ask in #ubuntu
[04:20] <shoklowitz> Vecciora, I believe you might find this useful: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Hardy_Installation_Guide
[04:20] <vecciora> shoklowitz: Thanks
[04:20] <shoklowitz> It covers the installation of Ati Graphics
[04:20] <vecciora> I'm use Kubuntu 7.10.
[04:21] <intelikey> hmm 7.10 and kde4
[04:21] <mr---t-> kde or gnome
[04:21] <vecciora> Kubuntu 7.10 is the best OS for me until I've encountered this problem. :P
[04:21] <shoklowitz> 7.10 Guide is here: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[04:21] <Dr_willis_> the ati drivers do seem tohave improved for my machines in the Latest release.
[04:22] <shoklowitz> The wiki itself is devoted to ATi drivers for Linux machines, so I think you'll be fine if you follow the steps.
[04:22] <intelikey> Dr_willis_ what chip ?
[04:22] <shoklowitz> nVidia cards have always been a breeze to get working on most distros
[04:23] <vecciora> Which is better? ATi or nVidia?
[04:23] <intelikey> shoklowitz i wish my nv card was supported.
[04:23] <vecciora> Sorry for asking that.
[04:23] <intelikey> S3  :)
[04:23] <shoklowitz> They're both great as graphics cards in themselves, but it seems Nvidia cards or better supported on Linux.
[04:23] <shoklowitz> Which one do you have intelikey?
[04:23] <intelikey> a non-supported one.
[04:24] <intelikey> an old one
[04:24] <shoklowitz> Ah, well, old hardware *is* sometimes hard to get working. Have you tried legacy driver packages?
[04:24] <vecciora> There is no X1050 in the list.
[04:24] <vecciora> But there is 9600.
[04:24] <bhc> !boot
[04:25] <intelikey> yep it's not supported in legacy
[04:25] <shoklowitz> Crap.
[04:25] <asobi> what's the chan for kubuntu dev?
[04:25] <intelikey> !dev
[04:26] <shoklowitz> Would anyone know how to set up a transparent screen lock?
[04:26] <intelikey> !kubuntu-dev
[04:26] <shoklowitz> You could just try #kubuntu-dev
[04:26] <asobi> i did
[04:26] <shoklowitz> or #kubuntudev or some variation
[04:26] <shoklowitz> Hmmm.
[04:26] <shoklowitz> Google it?
[04:27] <intelikey> /list *ubuntu*
[04:27] <vecciora> How can I make my driver provide FireGL X11 extensions?
[04:27] <asobi> #kubuntu-devel
[04:27] <shoklowitz> Here you go:#kubuntu-devel
[04:28] <shoklowitz> Sorry, didn't see it
[04:28] <shoklowitz> There's a list of channels here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[04:29] <shoklowitz> Does anyone know the technical difference between kdm and kdm-kde4?
[04:30] <Dr_willis_> technical?
[04:30] <shoklowitz> I'm trying to set up a transparent screensaver so that I can use it as a screenlock, so that colleagues can view my desktop and information on it without being logged in. However, when I install a package of kde screensavers, it asks which display manager I'd like to use, kdm or kdm-kde4. I don't want to choose until I know the difference.
[04:31] <Dr_willis_> kde4 has its own login manager using the kde4 libs and stuff.. it looks different
[04:31] <Dr_willis_> stick with kde3 if you want.
[04:31] <shoklowitz> And I think on my last kubuntu install I had picked kdm-kde4 and my log in manager changed.
[04:31] <Dr_willis_> if you want to change later 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm' will let you select the others.
[04:31] <shoklowitz> Dr.Willis: I'm using Kubuntu Hardy, what display manager is on by default?
[04:32] <Dr_willis_> shoklowitz,  if you are not using the remix version with kde4. then you are using the kde3 kdm
[04:32] <shoklowitz> kd3 isn't listed as an option, I have kdm, and kdm-kde4
[04:32] <Dr_willis_> K d m = 'kde display manager'
[04:32] <Dr_willis_> kdm is the kde3 one.
[04:32] <shoklowitz> Oh.
[04:33] <Dr_willis_> You are making way too big a deal out of this. :)
[04:33] <shoklowitz> So most probably I'm using Kde3 eh?
[04:33] <Dr_willis_> that would be my guess.
[04:33] <shoklowitz> Well, I *am* a bit of a n00b. Bear with me :P
[04:34] <Dr_willis_> all kdm does is ask you for your name/password, and lets you pick what session. It may have a few other extra fetures you may use. But kdm3 or kdm4 wont matter much i imagine. they do the same basic job. just the looks may differ
[04:35] <phrek> does anyone use adesklets?
[04:35] <shoklowitz> Ok. So in the list, kdm most probably means  kde3 right?
[04:36] <intelikey> shoklowitz he said that four times.
[04:36] <shoklowitz> Ok now I'm confused. Kdm is the login manager, while kde is the display manager.
[04:36] <shoklowitz> Sorry Intelikey.
[04:36] <intelikey> kde is the "K desktop environment"
[04:37] <intelikey> when i start kde i do it from gdm
[04:37] <shoklowitz> So you're using the Gnome Login manager to login
[04:37] <intelikey> when i use a gui yes
[04:38] <shoklowitz> Ok.
[04:38] <intelikey> i normally don't use any gui though
[04:38] <Dr_willis_> blasphmy! :)
[04:39] <intelikey> truth.  call it what you will
[04:39] <intelikey> :)
[04:39] <vecciora> I've fix it!
[04:39] <shoklowitz> That's awesome. I bet using only text must five you a much better understanding of how things working.
[04:39] <Dr_willis_> intelikey,  you use that 'dos thing?' :)
[04:39] <shoklowitz> *of how things work.
[04:39] <Dr_willis_> and those haxor tools like screen. and  bash! :P
[04:40] <intelikey> lol  denial of service    or   disk operating system   or some other expansion of dos  ?
[04:40] <Dr_willis_> DrDos :)
[04:40] <vecciora> Help me!
[04:40] <vecciora> I've a new problem.
[04:40] <shoklowitz> Haha. teh l33tness it blindz meeh!
[04:40] <phrek> anyone use adesklets?
[04:41] <vecciora> Jumping icon below the pointer now just look like a plain colour.
[04:41] <intelikey> shoklowitz the good doctor is playing.   he also spends a lot of time in a shell
[04:41] <vecciora> Like when I execute Kopete it was just a plain blue color icon jumping.
[04:41] <vecciora> Not the Kopete icon.
[04:42] <shoklowitz> I used terminal a lot when I was using Gentoo. But never exclusively.
[04:42] <shoklowitz> vecciora: I think this calls for a Visit to Dr.House.
[04:43] <shoklowitz> You blue-myoscopialinfarctionitis.
[04:43] <vecciora> How can I fresh reinstall KDE?
[04:43] <vecciora> It seems my KDE broken or something.
[04:43] <shoklowitz> I think it's best that you install kubuntu instead of installing ubuntu and then kde ontop of it.
[04:43] <Dr_willis_> vecciora,  its a 'windows mentality' that when somthing messes  up you 'remove/reinstall' that rarely works under linux.
[04:43] <intelikey> might first rm -r ~/.kde*
[04:43] <shoklowitz> That way you'll have easier access to things like the drivers manager on kde.
[04:44] <vecciora> Dr_willis: Okay
[04:44] <intelikey> Dr_willis_ don't forget the old   'reboot will fix anything' ism.
[04:44] <Dr_willis_> shoklowitz,  it shouldent matter. ive isntalled ubuntu-desktop on kubuntu, and kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu.
[04:45] <vecciora> intelikey: I've rebooted twice.
[04:45] <shoklowitz> Dr.Willis: actually sometimes when I install kubuntu, my soundcard won't work. I pop in the DVD again, and it works fine the next time. I've done fresh installs on Hardy about 6 times, and it happens without fail every second time. So I guess sometimes reinstalling does work :P
[04:45] <intelikey>     see   ^
[04:46] <shoklowitz> I know you can do that, but it gets awfully cluttered, and you have to work the small bugs that occur because you've got both.
[04:46] <Dr_willis_> shoklowitz,  the only differance sound wise from ubuntu to kubuntu is that ubuntu now uses that Pulse audio stuff.
[04:46] <intelikey> shoklowitz the fix would be to list the module in /etc/modules   and it would work "all the time"
[04:47] <Dr_willis_> shoklowitz,  if you are installing with  the same dvd on same machine.. you really should be getting identical installs.. if somthing is not, i would wonder if the dvd dosent have a issue. or some odd hardware issue/bug
[04:47]  * intelikey votes for "bug"
[04:47] <shoklowitz> I am. Which is odd. And the DVD is pretty fresh, I verified the md5 and the burn check.
[04:49]  * intelikey never got an identical install using ubuntu media.   only after i made my own install disk...
[04:49] <shoklowitz> It is my own install disk.
[04:49] <intelikey> but when you install to /dev/hda rather than a partition you have to really tinker with upbiquity
[04:50] <Dr_willis_> you are sooo leet...
[04:50] <Dr_willis_> :P
[04:50] <intelikey> i learned it from you...
[04:50] <intelikey> :)
[04:50] <Dr_willis_> Im the Dr of Love.. not Leetness
[04:50] <shoklowitz> omg lrn 2 spl itz teh l33tnezz
[04:51] <Dr_willis_> L9v3
[04:51] <Dr_willis_> oops
[04:51] <Dr_willis_> L0v3
[04:51] <intelikey> :)
[04:51] <intelikey> lol
[04:51] <shoklowitz> haxX0r n00bz
[04:51] <intelikey> hehhe
[04:51] <shoklowitz> Hahah.
[04:52] <intelikey> but really,  why is "teh" such a common pissmelling ?
[04:52] <shoklowitz> I know this dude. I installed blackbox on his window machine and set it up for him. So now he's got his transparent DOS console, and pretends he's a haxX0r whenever someone's around by typing in something like ping 192.168.0.1
[04:53] <shoklowitz> I think it's just one of those typographical errors that occurs a lot.
[04:53] <shoklowitz> That or 4chan made it popular.
[04:53] <Dr_willis_> my irc clint auto fix;s that spelling mistake
[04:53] <Dr_willis_> the
[04:54] <shoklowitz> I think 4chan is behind half the internet fads right now.
[04:54] <intelikey> ^5
[04:54] <Dr_willis_> i cant even type t e h without it getting fixed.
[04:54] <Dr_willis_> I think you give 4 chan too much credit. :)
[04:54] <shoklowitz> Anonymous, LOLcats, Soviet Reversal.
[04:54] <Dr_willis_> 4chan the next 'all your base, and starwars kid' :)
[04:54] <shoklowitz> Which reminds me of the Soviet double reversal :))
[04:54]  * mr---t- scratches his head
[04:55] <shoklowitz> Didn't 4chan spread the all your base video?
[04:55] <shoklowitz> Can't remember.
[04:55] <shoklowitz> At least Weezer won't have trouble looking for material for a new video
[04:55] <intelikey> mendred
[04:55] <Dr_willis_> I rember ftp sites with collections of funny videos way befor i ever heard of 4chan, or youtube
[04:55] <intelikey> what's youtube ?
[04:56] <Dr_willis_> now all those sites have been mirrored and converted to worse looking  flash video...
[04:56] <shoklowitz> I've never ftp-d much
[04:56] <shoklowitz> Except to edit my webpages
[04:56] <intelikey> ftp was d'bom back in the day
[04:57] <shoklowitz> I wish I had been born earlier, so I wouldn't have to be the GUI dependant idiot that I am now.
[04:57] <asobi> is ext3 unstable?
[04:57]  * shoklowitz t
[04:57] <asobi> i feel files are corrupted
[04:57] <nuxil> lol
[04:57] <Dr_willis_> asobi,  why would you think that?
[04:57] <asobi> i never have problems in ntfs
[04:57] <asobi> ext3, i do :/
[04:57] <Dr_willis_> files can get corrupted. on both..
[04:57] <shoklowitz> is it a funny tingly feeling?
[04:57] <asobi> it's more of a file won't extract under ext3 feeling
[04:58] <intelikey> asobi ext3 is  ext2 + journal     so short answer is no.   but in reality i have had a few issues with ext3 that i never had with ext2
[04:58] <asobi> says it's corrupt or crc doesn't match
[04:58] <nuxil> corrupt diwnload
[04:58] <asobi> except, i would rewrite with the same file and it would work
[04:59] <asobi> maybe fragmentation?
[04:59]  * shoklowitz is away.
[04:59] <intelikey> how big is this file ?
[04:59] <asobi> 100mb
[04:59] <intelikey> probably not then
[04:59] <asobi> hence my conclusion of ext3 being a bad fs ~_~
[04:59] <intelikey> if you had mesured in g rather than m   maybe.
[05:00] <intelikey> asobi so mount it ext2  and see if it helps.
[05:00] <baudthief> Help... I accidentally shift+deleted a bunch of folders from my desktop, the mouse jerked and selected more folders than I needed to delete - I cancelled as soon as the dialogue appeared but they're gone
[05:00] <intelikey> you can tell the kernel to handle that at boot time.
[05:00] <asobi> wouldn't that wipe my hdd?
[05:01] <baudthief> any way to recover?
[05:01] <intelikey> no
[05:01] <intelikey> asobi as i said   ext3 == ext2 + journal
[05:01] <asobi> oh, so i can just edit fstab?
[05:01] <intelikey> asobi you can.
[05:02] <asobi> don't suppose i can mount it as ntfs?
[05:02] <intelikey> baudthief first umount the fs   or at least remount it ro  then check on recovering files on <your fs here>
[05:02] <intelikey> asobi no.
[05:03] <intelikey> asobi ntfs doesn't support the permissions needed for a *nix system
[05:03] <baudthief> intelikey: Thanks!
[05:03] <Dr_willis_> mounting a ext3 as ntfs?  Huh?
[05:04] <asobi> i use ntfs and ext3, so far ntfs works better @_@
[05:04] <intelikey> Dr_willis_ and "reboot fixes everthing"
[05:04] <Pigeon`> i just installed kubuntu, so different of ubuntu :O
[05:04] <Dr_willis_> Except that ntfs dosent have the permission features that ext3 does.. and ntfs under linux was considered risky untill recently. :) and ntfs is not very well documented..
[05:05] <intelikey> Pigeon` not under the hood.   down there it's all linux
[05:05] <Pigeon`> heh yeah graphicly
[05:05] <Pigeon`> i'll have to adjust
[05:06] <intelikey> Pigeon` rule one in kde "right click everything"
[05:06] <intelikey> :)
[05:06] <intelikey> when in doubt    right click
[05:06] <Pigeon`> oh ok
[05:06] <intelikey> oh and be sure to right click
[05:06] <Pigeon`> i was wondering how to change my nickname in kopete :P
[05:06] <intelikey> maybe     right click ?
[05:06] <intelikey> lol
[05:07] <Pigeon`> lol
[05:07] <intelikey> or /nick new-nick
[05:07] <Pigeon`> heh
[05:08] <intelikey> i don't think i have ever seen kopete   and only konversation one time.
[05:09] <mr---t-> in kopete you have to change it in configure
[05:09] <Pigeon`> is there a gaim of pidgin in kde lol
[05:09] <intelikey> i used xchat back before it was 2.0
[05:09] <intelikey> !pidgin
[05:09] <shoklowitz> Funpidgin ftw!
[05:09] <intelikey> install as normal
[05:10] <Pigeon`> good i like pidgin
[05:10] <Pigeon`> ill try to install it
[05:10] <shoklowitz> Those devs on pidgin were real ***** about it though.
[05:10] <Pigeon`> same as ubuntu? sudo apt-get install pidgin ?
[05:10] <intelikey> yep
[05:10] <Pigeon`> cool
[05:10] <intelikey> you have ubuntu
[05:10] <Pigeon`> well i had
[05:10] <intelikey> just maybe not ubuntu-desktop
[05:10] <intelikey> have
[05:11] <Pigeon`> oh ok
[05:11] <intelikey> h a v e    have ubuntu
[05:11] <Pigeon`> i understand lol
[05:12] <intelikey> dpkg -l | grep "ii  ubuntu"    :)
[05:12] <Pigeon`> i've changed to kubuntu because my gnome f*cked up
[05:13] <shoklowitz> There's 4 engineers in a car. An electrical, a mechanical, a chemical and microsoft certified professional.
[05:13] <shoklowitz> So the car breaks down and shuts off.
[05:13] <shoklowitz>  The electrical engg says there might be a problem with the electrical system and the cam or the spark plugs might be out,
[05:13] <shoklowitz>  the mechanical engg says there may be a broken engine or transmission part, the chemical engg suspects something emulsified somewhere.
[05:14] <shoklowitz> The microsoft engg looks at everyone and says, why don't we roll the windows up, shut the car off, get out, get back in, and restart the car?
[05:14] <intelikey> yep
[05:14] <shoklowitz> Bad joke :|
[05:15] <shoklowitz> I continue to surprise myself with my poor sense of humor.
[05:15] <intelikey> "Dr_willis_ don't forget the old   'reboot will fix anything' ism."     <<< way up there ^
[05:16] <Pigeon`> i think i'll love kubuntu! :)
[05:16] <intelikey> shoklowitz i like this one.     Q; what is the differance between a duck?    A; one leg is both the same.
[05:16] <shoklowitz> Hunh?
[05:17] <shoklowitz> Between a duck and what?
[05:17] <intelikey> but you have to use that after about forty bad jokes for it to hove full impact
[05:17] <intelikey> shoklowitz just wait.  you'll get it after while.
[05:17] <shoklowitz> How does a blonde kill a fish?
[05:17] <intelikey> cpr ?
[05:17] <shoklowitz> She drowns it :|
[05:17] <intelikey> close...
[05:18] <shoklowitz> There's this blonde girl, completely depressed, telling her friend she's gonna commit suicide
[05:18] <mr---t-> !ot
[05:18]  * intelikey wonders if mr---t- is blond ???
[05:18] <shoklowitz> So she's like, " I'm done with life. I'm going to jump off my 2nd floor apartment".
[05:18] <mr---t-> /no but my wife is
[05:19] <intelikey> oh    :)
[05:19] <shoklowitz> Her friend tells her she won't die if she jumps of the 2nd floor
[05:19] <shoklowitz> So the blonde says, " that's okay, I'll jump twice ".
[05:19] <shoklowitz> :\
[05:19] <intelikey> 37 to go.
[05:19] <shoklowitz> Hahaha.
[05:19] <intelikey> :)
[05:20] <shoklowitz> You'll be dead by #20
[05:20] <shoklowitz> Died of PJ Syndrome.
[05:20] <intelikey> what's PJ Syndrome?
[05:20] <shoklowitz> Poor Joke Syndrome. That counts as well.
[05:21] <shoklowitz> Why was the dude staring at the Orange Juice carton?
[05:21] <intelikey> as if we didn't see it comming   </yawns>
[05:21] <mr---t-> because it said concentrate
[05:21] <asobi> is there a gui for 7zip?
[05:21] <shoklowitz> Argh.
[05:21] <asobi> just installed and looks like it's only cmd line :/
[05:22] <shoklowitz> I thought I had the bad humor market cornered.
[05:22]  * shoklowitz is away.
[05:22] <mr---t-> no too much supply not enough demand
[05:22] <intelikey> asobi not that i know of...  but ark may be able to use 7zip
[05:23] <asobi> ark is horrible
[05:23] <intelikey> you have my permission to remove it from your system
[05:23] <asobi> i need a replacement first
[05:24] <intelikey> konsole  is nice
[05:24] <intelikey> replaces ark quite well
[05:24] <intelikey> actually i like mc for things like that
[05:24] <segfault_>  did anyone use "GCONV" before and had issues with
[05:24] <intelikey> you just decend into the archive as if it were a dir
[05:24] <segfault_> HI
[05:24] <Pigeon`> how do i install vlc media player?
[05:24] <asobi> gui replacement i mean
[05:25] <asobi> use adept to install anything
[05:25] <segfault_> I get the following error "gconv: command not found"
[05:25] <intelikey> Pigeon` sudo apt-get install vlc
[05:25] <Pigeon`> ok
[05:25]  * intelikey thought konsole was a gui to the shell
[05:26] <intelikey> </scratches head>  ???
[05:26] <Pigeon`> no that wasnt my question haha, how do i put vlc like i dont know how to say that, if i click on a .avi i want it to open with vlc
[05:27] <intelikey> oh right click on one and open with other type vlc and click remember
[05:27] <Pigeon`> ok
[05:27] <intelikey> did i mention   "right click everything" ?
[05:28] <intelikey> i could have swarn i told Pigeon` to "right click everything"  .....
[05:28] <Pigeon`> yeah thx lol
[05:28] <intelikey> you just thought i was joking   didn't you ?
[05:29] <Pigeon`> i know how to open with vlc
[05:29] <Pigeon`> but i dont want to right click each time
[05:29] <Pigeon`> lol
[05:29] <intelikey> prefered applications
[05:29] <intelikey> i'd have to start X and load kde to look that up.
[05:30] <intelikey> sounds like too much trouble for a guy as lazEE as i am.
[05:30] <nickishappy> I'm having problems with streming audio in FF3 in kubuntu hardy - sound is distorted
[05:31] <Pigeon`> oh well still dont work
[05:31] <Pigeon`> hmm if i want to double click and not one click, can I?
[05:32] <intelikey> Pigeon` yes     kcontrol   to the rescue
[05:32] <Pigeon`> ok lol what is kcontrol :O
[05:32] <intelikey> Pigeon` assuming it's kde3    kcontrol is the answer to all kde questions.
[05:32] <mr---t-> pigeon click system settings  defaults
[05:32] <Pigeon`> well its kubuntu hardy
[05:32] <intelikey> Pigeon` alt+f2  kcontrol
[05:33] <intelikey> there you find the configuration tool of tools
[05:33] <Pigeon`> hmmm
[05:33] <intelikey> the wizard extraordenare
[05:33] <Pigeon`> run command?
[05:33] <intelikey> yeah
[05:33] <intelikey> kcontrol
[05:33] <Pigeon`> oh
[05:34] <Pigeon`> lol
[05:34] <mr---t-> if you want to do it with a gui do what i said
[05:34] <nickishappy> it looks like konqueror still works fine
[05:34] <nickishappy> hmmmm...
[05:34] <intelikey> mr---t- that is a gui
[05:35] <intelikey> mr---t- or are you implying that if you ever touch the keyboard it's not "graphical" ?
[05:35] <Pigeon`> welllllllllllll i cant find it
[05:35] <Pigeon`> lol
[05:36] <intelikey> it's there.  it's all there.
[05:36] <mr---t-> no I think some people need more mouse work LOL
[05:36] <mr---t-> I he's an x window guy
[05:36] <Pigeon`> hmmm lol
[05:36] <Pigeon`> yeah well i got like 1000 choice
[05:37] <Pigeon`> witch one is the double click one lol
[05:37] <Pigeon`> oh found it!
[05:37] <Pigeon`> well i hope
[05:37] <intelikey> yeah and kcontrol is the "tool of tools"   if you want to configure anything kde kconrtol is the place to be.
[05:37] <Pigeon`> good thx
[05:37] <Pigeon`> and i need firefox next lol
[05:37] <intelikey> Pigeon` just click apply and  test it
[05:38] <intelikey> have to apply changes in kde it's not like gnome on that point.
[05:38] <Pigeon`> ok
[05:38] <mr---t-> intelikey:  btw I like the fact in linux youcan do both gui an non
[05:39] <intelikey> me too
[05:39] <intelikey> !
[05:39] <Pigeon`> The program 'firefox' is currently not installed.
[05:39] <Pigeon`> wow go kde go
[05:39] <intelikey> adept to the rescue
[05:40] <intelikey> or   sudo apt-get install firefox
[05:40] <Pigeon`> yeah
[05:40] <Pigeon`> firefox-3.0
[05:40] <mr---t-> kdesu?
[05:40] <intelikey> not for cli apps
[05:40] <intelikey> but yes for gui ones
[05:40] <intelikey> !kdesu
[05:41] <mr---t-> I thought ff had issues with sudo
[05:41] <intelikey> installing it ?
[05:41] <intelikey> news to me.
[05:41] <Pigeon`> really
[05:41] <mr---t-> yeah it;s in that link unless i didn't understand
[05:41] <intelikey> but hey. i don't know everything
[05:41] <Dr_willis_> why would you run firefox with sudo?
[05:42] <intelikey> why would installing a package care if it was sudo or kdesu that called apt ???
[05:42] <Dr_willis_> intelikey,  they are refering to 'gui' apps mainly
[05:43] <intelikey> Dr_willis_ then i missed something... again.
[05:43] <Dr_willis_> Im old skool and tend to still use 'sux'
[05:43] <Pigeon`> damn lol 231 update
[05:43] <Dr_willis_> intelikey,  :) of course kdesudo may print out a nicer ask for passwqord dialog also. :)
[05:44] <intelikey> Dr_willis_ yeah  but will it facilatate a gui ask for eula acceptance  ?
[05:44] <intelikey> if not.  then  sudo is as good as kdesudo on apt-get ... ff
[05:45] <intelikey> if ff3 has an eula
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[05:49] <dragon_> hello all
[05:50] <dragon_> anyone knows were I can find a free antivirus for ubuntu
[05:50] <Dr_willis_> intelikey,  thats a feature of the apt-get system.. i think it will.
[05:51] <Dr_willis_> intelikey,  it some how sees display being set. and uses the gui dialog. instead of the curses one.
[05:51] <intelikey> really.    nice.   i'll start sujesting kdesudo on anything that "might" have an eula
[05:51] <Dr_willis_> of course if this is about the JAVA EULA 'i cant hit ok' problem. the fix is to hit 'tab' to move to OK then enter. :)
[05:52] <intelikey> yeah i remember that.  even thought i have never seen it myself
[05:52] <intelikey> but again kdesudo might help with that.
[05:53] <Dr_willis_> java is about the only thing i rember having that idiotic eula issue.
[06:01] <intelikey> well looks like the excitement has died down in here...
[06:01] <intelikey> think i'll vanish for a few.
[06:01] <intelikey> shalom #kubuntu people !
[06:42] <Freku> !sound
[06:59] <Dr_willis_> lets see.. i get a program via cvs with --> svn co http://svn.gnome.org/svn/cheese/trunk cheese
[07:00] <Dr_willis_> it makes a cheese dir with the code.. i go into it.. and  i forget what to make it actually compile.. :)
[07:04] <aldo> algueem me ajuda
[07:05] <aldo> alguem fala em portugues
[07:05] <aldo> ???
[07:12] <baudthief> Ugh no ext3 recovery tools worked, my data is gone :(
[07:13] <baudthief> Any such thing as an automated backup tool? Ie: one that will backup my machine everyday at 3am or something?
[07:13] <Dr_willis_> several ways to do that.
[07:13] <Dr_willis_> rsync, and a cron job is one way
[07:14] <baudthief> sounds good
[07:14] <Dr_willis_> i recall some other tools also. but cant rember their names.
[07:14] <baudthief> i'll read up on rsync now, thanks
[07:14] <Tidus> sync is quite good for backups like that
[07:15] <aldo> hello
[07:15] <Tidus> rsync *
[07:15] <Dr_willis_> hello aldo
[07:15] <Tidus> seems I can't type today
[07:15] <aldo> tens kubuntu em portugues
[07:16] <aldo> kubuntu the portugues
[07:16] <Dr_willis_> !info backup-manager
[07:16] <Dr_willis_> Backupninja lets you drop simple config files in /etc/backup.d to
[07:16] <Dr_willis_> coordinate system backups.
[07:16] <Dr_willis_> :) ninja backups!
[07:17] <Tidus> !pr
[07:17] <Dr_willis_> 'as used by real ninjas'
[07:17] <aldo> uahusha
[07:17] <aldo> yes
[07:18] <aldo> kubuntu pr
[07:18] <aldo> kubuntu-br
[07:18] <aldo> kubuntu-pr
[07:19] <aldo> #kubuntu_br
[07:19] <aldo> #kubuntu es
[07:22] <aldo> hi
[07:22] <aldo> help
[07:23] <aldo> the book on the table
[07:45] <arashi> is 'sudo apt-get update' used to renew or add new 'installers' to adept?
[07:46] <Invisible_Slack> I have the nvidia restricted drivers install, restarted xserver after I ran the nvidia-xconf as root and its not doing 3d rendering anyone give a helping hand?
[07:46] <Invisible_Slack> arashi, its used to pull down basicly your file to update it so it knows the newest version of programs installed
[07:48] <arashi> oh ok.... what about drivers for my hardwares? Do I need to update them the same way? or they are searchable (from the net)
[07:48] <Invisible_Slack> drivers are mostly built into the kernel... unless its specific and manufatures will have unless its something in the restricted drivers
[07:49] <Dr_willis_> update/upgrade - will get any new updates in the repositories.
[07:49] <Dr_willis_> that restricted-drivers tool gets any drivers for 'special' hardware also.    Once ubuntu gets released. theres normally not a lot of updates.
[07:50] <Dr_willis_> except for bug/security fix's
[07:50] <Dr_willis_> the nvidia stuff can be a bit of an annoyance to get working right it seems. Ive had to twiddle with them a bit.
[07:51] <Invisible_Slack> dr_Willis, I've installed the nvidia repository drivers, ran the nvidia config and it put "driver nvidia" but it won't do 3d rendering
[07:51] <Invisible_Slack> dr_Willis, any suggestions
[07:52] <Dr_willis_> you could look at the x logs. I tend to stop the kdm service, and use 'startx' to see what  exactly X is saying on startup.
[07:52] <Dr_willis_> double check the xorg.conf file also.   I also enable the show the nvidia logo feature as well. so i can be sure the nvidia driver is loading
[07:53] <Invisible_Slack> no EE's on the xorg.log
[07:53] <Dr_willis_> http://pastebin.com/f44aea062  is my xorg.conf for my nvidia based laptop
[07:53] <Dr_willis_> its rather minimal.
[07:54] <Dr_willis_> how do you know its not doing 3d rendering?
[07:55] <Dr_willis_> http://pastebin.com/f738cd3cf      is my xorg.conf for my nvidia 8800gtsxxx desktop machine.
[07:55] <Dr_willis_> its a littel different from the laptop
[07:56] <Invisible_Slack> dr_Willis, because when I do grep command it says no rendering
[07:56] <Invisible_Slack> brb
[07:56] <Dr_willis_> you mean 'dri'  - thats  not the same as no 3d rendering.
[07:57] <Dr_willis_> glxinfo  | grep direct
[07:57] <Dr_willis_> direct rendering: Yes
[08:01] <Manyfold> scim-latex rendering for konservation doesn't work! how to debug?
[08:05] <Invisible_Slack> dr_Willis, well mine is basicly yours.. let me restart xserve to see if I get the nvidia logo
[08:06] <K`zan> Hi Folks, did the distro upgrade and now my USB file systems won't automount anymore, anyone have any thoughts on this ?
[08:08] <Dr_willis_> I hate it when 'auto mounting stuff' breaks. :(
[08:09] <willi_ballenthin> is there a ubuntu package of the newer versions (0.9.4ish) anywhere?
[08:10] <Invisible_Slack> dr_Willis, Thnx its working but for some reason the nvidia manager keeps telling me that xorg isn't working right..
[08:10] <Dr_willis_> willi_ballenthin,  newer versionof what?
[08:10] <Invisible_Slack> dr_Willis, I'll try to get compiz working later after work need some sleep before I have to work 12 hours today.. thnx again for your help
[08:11] <K`zan> Seems to see it in dmesg but it never shows up in anything else.
[08:11] <K`zan> Starting to think that going to 8.04 was not a good thing :-(.
[08:11] <Dr_willis_> whats your video card anyway?
[08:12] <Dr_willis_> oops wrong nick. :) heh
[08:12] <Dr_willis_> im getting confused.
[08:12] <Dr_willis_> I always do clean installs. never upgrades.
[08:13] <willi_ballenthin> Dr_willis_:  wow sorry, digikam
[08:13] <willi_ballenthin> dk how i missed that crucial piece of info, haha
[08:13] <Dr_willis_> :)
[08:14] <Dr_willis_> could check that getdeb site i guess.. or use the source.
[08:14] <willi_ballenthin> i was having a little trouble with the source
[08:14] <willi_ballenthin> but ill try again
[08:14] <willi_ballenthin> thanks!
[08:17] <K`zan> Well, I can run wincrap when I need to get stuff off the usb filesystems.
[08:17] <K`zan> Thanks anyhow folks.  Night.
[08:18] <Dr_willis_> K`zan,  ua could just mount it manually
[08:20] <Rioting_pacifist> !paste
[08:30] <Jurgentje> Hi... anyone in here who knows how I can change the default ownership of NTFS-drives? (I have a USB-harddrive with some partitions in NTFS, they are assigned to root by default, so I can't write to them - sometimes I can't even access them - in my normal login)
[08:30] <hunt0r> hi, does anyone know in wich package the nepomuksearch kio slave is? I'am using the kde4 beta-2 packages
[08:31] <Dr_willis_> Jurgentje,  install/run the ntfs-config tool. and i think theres some check boxs that should enable that.
[08:32] <Dr_willis_> Jurgentje,  also theres the ntfs-3g tools that support read/writeing  of them. I dont have any external ntfs. so cant verify the steps of whats needed.
[08:32] <Jurgentje> Dr Willis: I can access them too.. but every time again I have to "re-enable" them in the control panel
[08:33] <Dr_willis_> control panel? hmm. they just auto mount when i click on themhere.. but these are internal. not external
[08:33] <Dr_willis_> ntfs-config has a check box for 'enable write support for external drives'
[08:34] <Dr_willis_> Not sure if thats the proper fix or not.
[08:34] <Jurgentje> well... apparently not, I had it installed (thought so, wasn't sure) and box was checked
[08:35] <Dr_willis_> as a final option you could just add a proper entry in the fstab and manually mount the things
[08:38] <numan> irc.GIMPNet.com
[08:40] <pigeon``> hey i just installed kubuntu and took firefox but i can't even check video on youtube :/
[08:41] <pigeon``> do i need some plugins or anything?
[08:41] <jussi01> pigeon``: yes
[08:41] <pigeon``> witch one?
[08:41] <jussi01> pigeon``: install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:41] <pigeon``> ok
[08:41] <jussi01> pigeon``: that give you the whole lot
[08:41] <eightmillion> anyone have any experience with synaptic touch pads?
[08:42] <numan> irc.gimp.org
[08:42] <jussi01> eightmillion: some, but you are best off asking the question and seeing if somone knows the answer
[08:42] <numan> irc//irc.gimp.org
[08:42] <eagles0513875> morning all
[08:43] <eightmillion> i just installed ksynaptics and now my vertical scroll doesn't work right
[08:43] <pigeon``> thx alot jussi01 :)
[08:43] <eightmillion> i can barely get it to work at all
[08:43] <Manyfold> how to install flash on x64?
[08:43] <mason> hey does anyone know about getting things to work in KDE4?
[08:43] <eightmillion> it's like the detection area is too small
[08:43] <jussi01> !flash64 | Manyfold
[08:44] <Manyfold> is this also possible with konqueror?
[08:44] <mason> hey ubottu do u know if there's any way to get firefox to work in KDE4?
[08:45] <mason> or how to get flash/real/java/wma/ etc. to work with Konqueror in KDE4?
[08:46] <willi_ballenthin> mason: i have both working
[08:46] <willi_ballenthin> although i dk what i did special to get them working
[08:46] <mason> o did u just use apt-get?
[08:47] <willi_ballenthin> yeah, i believe so
[08:47] <willi_ballenthin> there are some flash packages that should be compatible with konqueror
[08:47] <willi_ballenthin> i know flash works within konqueror, and kontact for me
[08:47] <willi_ballenthin> so i assume it was some global package
[08:47] <mason> if only i knew the name...
[08:47] <willi_ballenthin> let me look
[08:48] <Jurgentje> numan: what's your point?
[08:48] <willi_ballenthin> flashplugin-nonfree?
[08:48] <mason> o good will try that right now
[08:54] <jussi01> mason: kde4 support can be found in #kubuntu-kde4
[08:58] <mason> thank you willi & jussi!
[08:58] <mason> I figured out the problem installing firefox
[08:58] <numan> i want to get help for using mono on ubuntu
[08:58] <mason> i was doing it from the adep package manager
[08:59] <numan> because i want to run some windows based application like tracker checker for torrent sites
[09:01] <mason> in the Add/Remove Programs, it tried to download pkg "mozilla-firefox".  But now, it's just plain firefox
[09:10] <Ange|us> hello guys
[09:10] <Ange|us> im using ssh from windows xp to ssh to my linux computer downstairs
[09:10] <Ange|us> i can login and everything, right now im using kvirc from puty to chat
[09:11] <Ange|us> but, is there a possible way to ssh to an already open kde seasion ?
[09:12] <budg> Ange|us: x11vnc
[09:14] <Ange|us> budg:  im not using vnc, im uing putty to ssh from windows
[09:14] <Ange|us> i can run x11 apps already from it
[09:15] <Ange|us> but i want to use an already open kde session that is open on my kubuntu pc downstairs
[09:15] <Ange|us> is that posible?
[09:16] <budg> yeah thats x11 forwarding, but to use a open session you need x11vnc
[09:16] <Ange|us> where do i need it , on the windows computer?
[09:17] <pigeon``> Can i have like 2 taskbar at the bottom of my screen?
[09:17] <budg> no the linux box
[09:17] <Ange|us> and how do i connect to the already open sesion from the windows computer?
[09:18] <budg> start x11vnc on the linux box, then use a windows vnc client to log into it
[09:19] <Ange|us> so it cant be done from putty?
[09:20] <budg> no, but you can use putty to port forward x11vnc
[09:21] <Ange|us> yeah i done that budg
[09:21] <Ange|us> ;p
[09:21] <Ange|us> i can open x11 apps
[09:22] <Hondo_Kitsune> Ok, i am at a bit of a loss here. How do you sync your contacts between Kopete and Kontact?
[09:24] <UbutuskA> mégis működik
[09:25] <UbutuskA> aszem a sorrenden csúsztam el
[09:25] <jpds> !en | UbutuskA
[09:25] <jpds> !hu
[09:30] <mluser-home> Does anyone know if Intrepid will have kde 3.5.x available, or will kde4 be our only choice now?
[09:35] <dr_Willis> Well given the state of kde4.. I plan on using 3.5 for a long time. :)
[09:36] <jussi01> mluser-home: it will be available, but not default if I understand correctly
[09:39] <mluser-home> jussi01: Thanks :)
[09:44] <zorglu_> q. i would like to remove the periodic updatedb, how can i do that ?
[09:45] <dr_Willis> zorglu_,  i think its in the crontab. lets look.
[09:45] <mercuree> would there be any difference between the amarok i got with kubuntu and the one i can get with medibutnu?
[09:45] <mercuree> madibuntu*
[09:45] <mercuree> arg
[09:46] <mercuree> m.e.d.i.b.u.n.t.u
[09:46] <dr_Willis> zorglu_,  its called i belive from /etc/cron.daily/mlocate    removeing that file should make it stop running daily
[09:46] <mercuree> yay i got it :D
[09:46] <zorglu_> dr_Willis: nice, thanks
[09:46] <dr_Willis> zorglu_,  however the 'find' script in that same location says IT updates the locate database
[09:47] <dr_Willis> so im not sure what mlocate does then. :)
[09:47] <dr_Willis> it may be doing some related tasl
[09:48] <zorglu_> dr_Willis: it is ok. you gave me the place to look. if i got further issues, i will look there :)
[09:51] <dr_Willis> Heh not sure what  /usr/bin/updatedb.mlocate  actually does.. cant find a man page for it
[09:52] <dr_Willis> Unless its because mlocate is one of the ways of doing the database/locate stuff.
[09:52] <zorglu_> dr_Willis: it is the refresher of "locate blabla" no ?
[09:52] <dr_Willis> but the find script calls 'updatedb' for that.
[09:53] <dr_Willis> then the other script calls  the updatedv.mlocate, but both seem to be the same binary
[09:53] <dr_Willis> so it may be one is doing some optmizations
[09:54] <zorglu_> smell like clean :)
[10:00] <|hunter|> hi, I am currently using kde4 beta 2 packages but I cant find the package for this nepomuksearch:/ io slave mentioned here: http://blog.lydiapintscher.de/2008/06/14/folderview-is-the-awesome/  is there any way I can get this on my desktop?
[10:02] <dr_Willis> !kde4
[10:17] <Manyfold> i have kde 4.1 :)
[10:19] <zorglu_> oh they fixed the ultra-wide window border. nicer
[10:19] <zorglu_> only the change of color remains :)
[10:20] <zorglu_> computer design is hard for color guys. you cant get away from blue+clear :) no black, no purple :)
[10:21] <dr_Willis> everytime i try to use a dark theme.. somthing looks like poo with it.
[10:21] <dr_Willis> I tend to use greys.
[10:25] <emilsedgh> !leet
[10:28] <Jahromeo> !compiz
[10:31] <Jahromeo> !repo
[10:31] <Jahromeo> !multiverse
[10:31] <dr_Willis> Hmm.. they totally changed that factoid.
[10:32] <Ange|us> budg:  i did connet to my linux pc from vnc, with x11vnc but then no one else can use the pc or i get disconnected
[10:33] <Jahromeo> my adept package manager just shows hourglass, then closes and doesnt do anything
[10:34] <Jahromeo> my package manager wont open - and i dont know how to edit sources via konsole
[10:41] <Dr_willis_> Ange|us,  you can use the 'vnc4server' or 'tightvnc' package and have a vnc session thats not the 'current desktop'  thus users on the local machine wont even notice it.
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[10:45] <Dr_willis_> hi
[10:46] <Jahromeo> !repos
[10:46] <Ange|us> Dr_willis_:  so  i would be able to use my open kde sesion from fathers windows xp , and my girlfriend would still be able to use her kde sesion at the same time ?
[10:47] <Dr_willis_> you  would run 'vnc4server' and have IT run a kde session, that session wouldbe totally inthe background 'hidden'
[10:47] <Dr_willis_> you would only seeit whenyou connect to it with a vnc client.
[10:48] <Dr_willis_> vnc can be slow.. and using kde4 may make it even slower.
[10:48] <pigeon``> anyone know how to put a garbage can on the desktop?
[10:48] <Dr_willis_> In theory you could have a dozen vnc sessions each running kde4, or any other desktop.
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> Ange|us: just use ssh with x forwarding :D
[10:49] <Ange|us> i cant...
[10:49] <Jahromeo> if i run adept_manager from the kmenu - it just shows hourglass and doesnt loads - just dissapears off taskbar - if i load it from konsole via adept_manager string - it opens - what gives?
[10:49] <Dr_willis_> ActionParsnip,  he said he was on a windows machine as the client however.
[10:49] <Ange|us> i need to use an already open sesion
[10:50] <Dr_willis_> Ange|us,     that will make it even more sluggish
[10:52] <Jahromeo> !skype
[10:57] <Jahromeo> what do i need to load to view my ntfs drives?
[10:57] <Jahromeo> !ntfs
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> ntfs-3g is awesome
[10:59] <Jahromeo> whats it do ActionParsnip
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> Jahromeo: lets you mount ntfs partitions with read and write capabilities
[10:59] <Jahromeo> ActionParsnip: and its easy to use?
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> Jahromeo: you wont be able to delete files with special permissions though, or change permissions
[10:59] <Jahromeo> ActionParsnip: no editing of fstab etc ?
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> Jahromeo: you'll see an FS like you do with / or /home
[11:00] <Jahromeo> so you dont really have write acess?
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> Jahromeo: yes you edit /etc/fstab
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> Jahromeo: you can create new files
[11:00] <Jahromeo> ActionParsnip:  so the tool doesnt do it for you ntfs-3g
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> Jahromeo: tool?
[11:00] <Jahromeo> !ntfs-3g
[11:00] <Jahromeo> nevermind its only a driver
[11:00] <Jahromeo> thought it was a tool
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> Jahromeo: yuo install ntfs-3g and edit your fstab to mount using ntfs-3g
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> Jahromeo: no, its not hard though. the link above tells you how
[11:01] <daw> hello, can you tell me what is the difference between ubuntu generic and ubuntu server, I heve both options in my grub after install... ?
[11:01] <Jahromeo> coolio  , thanks ActionParsnip
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> Jahromeo: editing config files isnt hard dude
[11:02] <Jahromeo> ActionParsnip:  im a noob tho and i bork my installs pretty easy :P
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> Jahromeo: just create a backup first then edit away, if it goes bad simply roll back
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> Jahromeo: do you create backups of .conf files etc?
[11:02] <Jahromeo> ActionParsnip:  and my knowledge of the cl is limited to tail, grep, chmod, etc :
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> Jahromeo: you dont need cli to edit conf files
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> Jahromeo: jsut use sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.backup
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> then kdesudo /etc/fstab
[11:03] <crazy_bus> I installed samba, and selected share for a folder, but I can't seem to find my computer on a windows computer.  I can find windows networks on my computer so I think it's working.  What should I do?
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> you can now edit away knowing your original is safely copied to fstab.backup
[11:03] <Jahromeo> ActionParsnip:  how do you then restore it?
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> Jahromeo: if you just go running in without and screw it you have nothing to recover with
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> Jahromeo: sudo cp /etc/fstab.backup /etc/fstab
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> Jahromeo: that will copy the backup over the top of the malfunctioning file
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> Jahromeo: if you look at the command its fairly self explanatory dont you think?
[11:05] <daw>  <crazy_bus> you must set a domain name for microsoft networks
[11:05] <Jahromeo> yeah
[11:05] <Jahromeo> im making a note of it, ta ActionParsnip
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> Jahromeo: if you look at it its not decieving
[11:05] <daw> can anyone tell me what is the difference between kubuntu generic and kubuntu server in grub ?
[11:06] <Jahromeo> also ummm what is that new multi purpose im proggy that has like skype/msn/yahoo/etc all in 1, forgot its name , its kind of like pidgin but has skype in its beta
[11:06] <Dr_willis_> server kernels have some different tweaks - not sure what.. but theres some differances
[11:06] <daw> so i must look into tech docs ?
[11:10] <jon_> hi
[11:10] <jon_> i want to add a new linux OS to the grub menu i just installed
[11:10] <jon_> i have kubuntu running how do i do it?
[11:11] <jon_> the new os is installed to /dev/hdd5
[11:11] <jon_> thanks
 u must edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and add new os starting options
[11:14] <daw> options depends on the new system that you've installed, check docs
[11:17] <crazy_bus> daw: I set a random domain name.  What do I do now?
[11:19] <ubuntu> salve
[11:20] <llutz> Moin
[11:21] <ubuntu> lotat
 check that: http://kubuntu101.blogspot.com/2005/11/how-to-share-files-using-samba.html
[11:22] <daw>  <Dr_willis_> i found that generic kernel uses CFQ I/O scheduling but server kernel uses Deadline scheduling...
[11:22] <dr_Willis> daw,  You say that as if i have the slightest CLUE what those words mean..... :)
[11:22] <dr_Willis> differnt scheduling.. :) i understand.. ehh
[11:23] <dr_Willis> as for the specifics. :)  well...
[11:23] <daw> so generic is better for desktop and laptop i think
[11:24] <dr_Willis> I would imagine so.
[11:24] <daw> :)
[11:25] <daw> i asked becouse vbox machine changed my grub menu and prefers server kernel ....
[11:25] <dr_Willis> i wonder how you installed the server kernel.
[11:26] <daw> its default in Kubuntu dvd i think
[11:27] <dr_Willis> I cant imagine why the Kubuntu DVD would default to the server kernel.
[11:28] <daw> i cant too
[11:28] <daw> strange
[11:28] <crazy_bus> daw: I had already followed that guide, and I still can't access
[11:28] <daw> but i have two kernels installed
[11:29] <daw> maybe vbox has install it ... :|
[11:31] <dr_Willis> vbox dosent install stuff at all as far as ive seen
[11:31] <dr_Willis> theres the vbox client extras you can get.. but thats about it
[11:32] <daw> hah i know now, i have installed virtualbox-ose modules for linux-image-2.6.22-14-server
[11:33] <daw> and it depends on  linux-image-2.6.22-14-server
[11:33] <daw> :]
[11:34] <daw> but why it changed my grub menu ;/
[11:34] <dr_Willis> thosr are for running vbox ON the server.
[11:34] <Hondo_Kitsune> Ok, i am at a bit of a loss here. How do you sync your contacts between Kopete and Kontact?
[11:46] <Hondo_Kitsune> ?
[11:52] <Tonehog> Ktorrent doesn't seem to have uPnP working properly. Do I need a uPnP daemon installed? If so, what's the package name?
[11:53] <dr_Willis> Im not even sure wha tthe uPNP plugin does in ktorrent
[11:53] <dr_Willis> I thought it found the upnp routers and set up port forwarding.
[11:54] <Tonehog> Yes.
[11:54] <dr_Willis> It does seem to be working here.
[11:54] <dr_Willis> at least its showing it saw my router and set up forwarding
[11:56] <Tonehog> Dr_Willis: would you be so kind as to check and see if you have libupnp2 installed? Perhaps it's missing a library.
[11:57] <dr_Willis> it is NOT installed
[11:57] <dr_Willis> i was thinking it it required specifc features of the router
[11:58] <Tonehog> My router is uPNP enabled.
[11:58] <llutz> upnp = security nightmare :(
[11:59] <dr_Willis> whats really weird - i set up static port forwarding on the router to this OTHER machine. :)
[11:59] <dr_Willis> and this one took them back.
[11:59] <dr_Willis> actually wait.. its using different ports it seems
[11:59] <Tonehog> Llutz: how is it a nightmare?
[12:00] <dr_Willis> any ap could in gtheory set itself up as a server I guess.
[12:00] <llutz> Tonehog: you allow an application to configure your router... from security-view a nightmare. upnp will show some nice effects in future, hackers like it :)
[12:01] <Tonehog> Llutz: I've never configured my router using uPNP, other than port forwarding. I can see it's "potential," though.
[12:02] <ncfi1013_> i uninstalled compiz but i still have to run "kwin --replace
[12:02] <ncfi1013_> kwin --replace &
[12:02] <ncfi1013_> killall compiz compiz.real
[12:03] <ncfi1013_> forget those three lines i messed up in writing it
[12:03] <dr_Willis> ncfi1013_,  removeing compiz goofes somthing else up.. ive seen this asked in here like 4 times this week. :)
[12:03] <dr_Willis> theres some link, or default/alternative that dosent get set right i belive.
[12:03] <ncfi1013_> let me start over
[12:04] <dr_Willis> and no - i dont know the exact fix. :)
[12:04] <llutz> Tonehog: portforwarding is what malware needs to reach your computer through your router. so make sure only those ports are forwarded, you really need.
[12:06] <Tonehog> Llutz: no different than NAT spoofing, no?
[12:06] <llutz> Tonehog: easier
[12:07] <Tonehog> Llutz: I kinda figureed.
[12:08] <Tonehog> Well, it appears that I'm getting tracker stats, although no DHT. I assume I'd need port forwarding for DHT to work properly.
[12:11] <MilitantPotato> Tonehog: I had to forward ports and configure the IP tables in linux  to get DHT working correctly
[12:13] <dr_Willis> Hmm showing 'DHT 204 addational nodes' here in ktorrent.
[12:13] <dr_Willis> that means its working right?
[12:13] <Tonehog> Yes.
[12:14] <patrick> hey guys, im looking for some help with my sound. New install of kubuntu 8.04
[12:15] <Tonehog> Patrick: using alsa sound drivers?
[12:15] <patrick> possibly. How do I check?
[12:16] <Tonehog> Open terminal.
[12:16] <Tonehog> Lsmod | grep snd.
[12:16] <patrick> Sound was working on the initial install, however when i updated some packages using adept and upon reboot I had no sound
[12:16] <ncfi1013_> i uninstalled compiz but i still have to run "kwin --replace & killall compiz compiz real" every time i log in or else my window borders are messed up and i have no system tray. i have deleted all compiz and emerald settings files that i could find and have set the session to load a clean session on startup but nothing seems to help
[12:17] <patrick> @ Tonehog: what am I looking for from the lsmod output?
[12:18] <Tonehog> Patrick: soundcore is alsa, I think.
[12:20] <nimmy> hi
[12:21] <patrick> @ Tonehog: soundcore               8800  1 snd
[12:22] <Tonehog> Patrick: try 'lsmod | grep snd'
[12:23] <patrick> same output
[12:24] <patrick> on another note, how do I get amarok to eject my ipod properly?
[12:26] <Tonehog> Patrick: your alsa configuration is blank, it appears, or is trying to load the wrong modules.
[12:26] <Tonehog> Patrick: regarding amarok, I haven't tried working with my iPod yet.
[12:26] <patrick> Hmmmm how do i force it to load the correct module?
[12:27] <Tonehog> Patrick: gimmie a second, I'll look it up.
[12:28] <patrick> Thanks Tonehog
[12:28] <Tonehog> Patrick: 'asoundconf'
[12:30] <_dennister> well channel, my best advice for would-be hardy-users: install gutsy first, then use dist-upgrade to hardy....which is totally against the conventional wisdom that a clean install is always the best & safest
[12:31] <dr_Willis> Whats best for you - may not be best for me. I will stick with my Clean Installs.
[12:32] <_dennister> besides my hardware & crashing issues with this pc (which was also present with gutsy from the get go) at least this way my xorg isn't giving me hassles and my cds/dvd drives are both usable
[12:32] <_dennister> dr_Willis: so a clean install worked well for you?
[12:33] <dr_Willis> Ive done clean installs on about 6 machines so far in the last month with no hassles.
[12:33] <dr_Willis> 3 of them were laptops
[12:33] <dr_Willis> well one laptop was a hassle.. but it was a Pent 1, with 64mb of ram.. :) put puppylinux on that one...
[12:33] <dr_Willis> but that would of been #7
[12:34] <Tonehog> Dr_Willis:  would have put slackware on a little laptop like that.
[12:34] <_dennister> when i did my server install right after the release, I couldn't (and still can't) get multimedia working because the installation mixed up the two optical drives
[12:35] <dr_Willis> Tonehog,  in some ways puppy is a cut down slackware. :) it can use the slack 12 packages. simetimes..
[12:36] <_dennister> dr_Willis: do you know of a testing app to really put a newly-built pc through its paces...testing for temp, hd functionality, etc? I'm looking for something similar to the windows testing apps
[12:36] <Tonehog> Dr_Willis: oh, OK. I had really good luck with Slackware and i386 setups.
[12:36] <dr_Willis> _dennister,  i saw some  Benchmark tools in the repos.. and there was some  'burn in' tools i think.
[12:37] <_dennister> "burn in" tools? what do they do?
[12:37] <dr_Willis> _dennister,  and there was some new benchmarking suite just released recently
[12:37] <dr_Willis> they run the pc at high load for a long time
[12:38] <_dennister> so why aren't they called benchmarking too? why a different name/description?
[12:38] <patrick_> how do i configure it?
[12:38] <dr_Willis> _dennister,  its not 'recording' anything.. its just making the machine work.
[12:38] <dr_Willis> run memtest from grub for a few hours as a good test also.
[12:39] <Tonehog> Patrick: I'm looking it up now.
[12:39] <_dennister> ah, ok, and benchmarking records stats & stuff
[12:39] <Tonehog> Patrick: http://ubuntu.sun.ac.za/wiki/index.php/ALSA
[12:39] <_dennister> dr_Willis: i ran memtest all night on this pc...ram sticks are not the issue apparently...got to be hdd or mobo now
[12:40] <dr_Willis> replace the hdd I guess.. :)  and hope its that.. replaceing the MB is a pain.
[12:40] <_dennister> still getting mouse & keyboard unresponsiveness right at startup, sometimes before kubuntu even loads...kernel panics, too
[12:41] <dr_Willis> sounds MBish to me....
[12:41] <dr_Willis> if you are sure the ram is good.
[12:41] <dr_Willis> unplug the HD. use a live cd for a bit. see it still happens
[12:41] <_dennister> also crashing during livecd use
[12:41] <Tonehog> Dr_Willis: couldn't it be the nvidia module?
[12:42] <dr_Willis> That sounds very bad then.
[12:42] <dr_Willis> Live cd is proberly not using the nvidia driver.
[12:42] <_dennister> nor is it using the hdd
[12:42] <Tonehog> What about ACPI?
[12:42] <dr_Willis> rip it apart. :) give it a good cleaning/dusting...  check all cables.
[12:42] <dr_Willis> Look for cut wires.. found an ide cable once that was cut just a little bit. by a sharp edge on the case.
[12:43] <_dennister> i just rebuilt it...spotless...even optical drives were given good hour-long wet cleans
[12:43] <dr_Willis> dead moths across pins is a bad thing also. :)
[12:43] <dr_Willis> I would say its time to get a new MB then.. and start moving stuff over.
[12:43] <dr_Willis> How old is this MB?
[12:44] <_dennister> yeah...not much point in reinstalling all software on another hdd if mobo is problem
[12:44] <Tonehog> Is there any benefit to using the pulseaudio drivers as opposed to using ALSA?
[12:44] <_dennister> i bought it in 2004...built my son's pc then
[12:45] <_dennister> luckily, because it's my son's, I'm not on a deadline
[12:45] <dr_Willis> Well a few years back there was a bit of a 'issue' with some not up to spec. made capaciaters.
[12:45] <dr_Willis> they could die/act weird after some time.
[12:46] <_dennister> yes, i heard about that...think it was the elite/ecs group that was making these bad capacitors
[12:47] <patrick_> @ dr_willis: oh yeah my Dell Optiplex fell foul to that issuer
[12:47] <patrick_> *issue
[12:47] <_dennister> the board itself was only used for maybe 6-8 months, then swapped for a better one, but then swapped back in after my son fried the better one, the cpu, and video card with champagne inside the box
[12:48] <dr_Willis> I think i got a pc with the issue also.. it crashes on first power up.. i gotta reset.. then it boots ok.
[12:48] <dr_Willis> but every power up.. it fails to see the hd.. or crashes.. or somthing odd..
[12:48] <dr_Willis> hit reset.. it takes off.
[12:48] <_dennister> the frying and first rebuild with linux happened last september...i got it back a few weeks ago and cpu had to be replaceed right off the bat
[12:50] <dr_Willis> The most valueable part of that machine - is proberly the case/ps :)
[12:52] <_dennister> not in this "case", heheheh ...case is a chemming entry level server case...snazzy and cool to look at, but soooooooo many vents and stuff it collects so much dust and other dirt in 3-6 months it's not even funny
[12:52] <dr_Willis> Vents for coolness.. vs.. dust...
[12:53] <dr_Willis> I got a P900 case that has a 200mm fan. and so many other fans/holes.. it may as well be totally open with a desk fan blowing onit.
[12:53] <_dennister> well, the vents may be designed for coolness, but unfortunately the 4 fans also suck in the dirt along with the cool air
[12:54] <osotogari> anyone have any idea how to use asoundconf to configure alsa??
[12:54] <_dennister> i tried to talk my son into a better case, but he's still enamoured with this one
[12:55] <Rioting_pacifist> how do i uninstall something i installed with make install
[12:55] <dr_Willis> I rember these Penguin Cases from a few years back.. :) never did get one.
[12:55] <dr_Willis> Rioting_pacifist,  go to the source dir  and hope that 'make uninstall' works
[12:55] <dr_Willis> or hopefully it installed to /opt/ or /usr/local and you can manually remove things
[12:56] <jasonago> when will be the next lts of kubuntu
[12:56] <jasonago> when will be the next lts of kubuntu?
[12:56] <dr_Willis> Hmm.. thats like every 3 years?
[12:56] <pim> try the internet
[12:56] <dr_Willis> !lts
[12:56] <pim> latest is 6.06
[12:57] <Hondo_Kitsune> Crud, I have to format my PC
[12:57] <pim> so +3 years would make it 9.06
[12:57] <dr_Willis> Latest LTS was Ubuntu Hardy.   8.04
[12:57] <pim> so June 2009
[12:57] <gareth_> yes but not for Kubuntu...
[12:57] <gareth_> because of KDE 4...
[12:57] <dr_Willis> kubuntu makes its own rules. :)
[12:57] <dr_Willis> it wasent really specific. :)
[12:57] <Hondo_Kitsune> some nasty bug got on it and my HDD space was dissapearing every time i restarted
[12:57] <jasonago> supposed to be the Kubuntu hardy is LTS just like the ubunut version...what I can't understand is why kubuntu hardy is not LTS...
[12:57] <dr_Willis> jasonago,  kde4 for one big reason
[12:58] <jpds> !khardy | jasonago
[12:58] <Jucato> dr_Willis: in this case, no. it's completely Canonical's
[12:58] <Jucato> Kubuntu had not choice in the matter at all
[12:58] <jasonago> is it very crucial for us to move from kde3 to kde4?
[12:59] <pim> not yet
[12:59] <pim> But it will be
[12:59] <Jucato> "crucial"? not for a long time
[12:59] <Dragnslcr> jasonago- Kubuntu 8.04 isn't LTS because KDE4 isn't ready for general use yet, and the KDE developers won't be supporting KDE3 for the 3 years that Kubuntu would need
[12:59] <osotogari> is kde 4 default in kubuntu 8.04?
[12:59] <jasonago> I think the kde3 people should first solve some caveats of kde3 before jumping to kde4...not unless the only solution is to debunk kde3 and adopt kde4
[13:00] <Rioting_pacifist> thx dr_Willis, uninstall didnt work but all the files were listed  and in /usr/local
[13:00] <Dragnslcr> osotogari- there are separate installers for KDE3 and KDE4
[13:00] <Jucato> jasonago: there are no "kde3 people"
[13:00] <_dennister> cases...ahhhhhhhh...i've got a lovely indwin server tower here I'm loathe to use as a server because the removable chassis is sooooo useful in my testing bench
[13:01] <_dennister> *inwin...and then someone gave me two totally rad server towers that don't seem to have a name/model...but 2-3 feet high, on casters, both sides swing out...
[13:01] <Jucato> jasonago: KDE 3 will continue to exist as long as someone uses it. and even then it will still be available for download always (KDE has, as far back as KDE 1.1). updates and bugfixes may or may not come in the future. no promises there
[13:01] <jasonago> Jucato: ah ok thanks for that...
[13:02] <jasonago> Uhm, one more thing, will kubuntu run successfully to Asus eee??? Or its better with the ubunut netbook spinoff?
[13:02] <Tonehog> Clear.
[13:02] <Tonehog> Oops :)
[13:03] <osotogari> anyone have any idea how to use asoundconf to configure alsa??
[13:03] <Tonehog> Osotogari:  http://ubuntu.sun.ac.za/wiki/index.php/ALSA
[13:05] <fredthemonkey> hi its me again :D
[13:05] <ronr_laptop> hi, I'm running kubuntu, the kde 4 remix, how do I configure my wireless connection? kwifimanager claims to find no networks, but there surely are a bunch of networks in reach (amongst which my, wep key secured, network to which I want to connect)
[13:05] <engineer> oh not again
[13:05] <fredthemonkey> :p
[13:05] <engineer> ronr_laptop don't use wep
[13:05] <fredthemonkey> how can i change the icon for my mp3 player on the desktop?
[13:06] <fredthemonkey> because it has always the ipod icon i painted my own one and now i want to change it
[13:06] <ronr_laptop> engineer: then use what? and why not?
[13:06] <fredthemonkey> is there a way?
[13:06] <engineer> wpa2, wep is easily crackable
[13:06] <engineer> no, there's not
[13:06] <jon_> neone know the solution to error 17 in grub?
[13:07] <ronr_laptop> engineer: ok, that's a good reason
[13:07] <engineer> jon_ http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml
[13:07] <bardack_> hi
[13:07] <ronr_laptop> engineer: and once I change the AP settings, how do I connect with kubuntu?
[13:07] <engineer> !hi | bardack_
[13:08] <bardack_> hi.... italian channel of ubuntu?
[13:08] <dr_Willis> !it
[13:08] <engineer> ronr_laptop the same way you did before
[13:08] <bardack_> ok
[13:08] <bardack_> grazie mille
[13:08] <ronr_laptop> engineer: my question was how to connect in the first place :D BTW, which wpa2, wpa2 or wpa2-psk?
[13:09] <engineer> wpa2-psk
[13:09] <jon_> does grub not recognise reizer fs?
[13:09] <engineer> of course not
[13:09] <engineer> must be ext3
[13:10] <engineer> that's why you keep /boot in a separate partition
[13:10] <engineer> and the / in another one if you want to use reiser fs
[13:10] <engineer> then /boot should be ext3 that is
[13:10] <jon_> but musix(a distro) allows / on reiser
[13:12] <engineer> well i don't know then
[13:12] <_dennister> ok, installing "stress" package from repository
[13:12] <jon_> any ways i will try ext3
[13:12] <jon_> thanks
[13:12] <engineer> install reiserfs-progs
[13:12] <engineer> but i don't think it will help
[13:12] <ncfi1013_> how do i manually edit bash startup
[13:13] <_dennister> unfortunattely searching for 'burn' or any combination of that gives me optical disk burning stuff...not burn-in tools
[13:13] <ronr_laptop> I'm using wpa2-psk now, but kwifimanager still won't find the network, is kwifimanager the right app the connect with?
[13:13] <PhilRod> ncfi1013_: I guess you want to edit ~/.bashrc
[13:13] <llutz> _dennister: cpuburn
[13:14] <_dennister> yes, that one i did see...and the warning :)
[13:16] <_dennister> this mobo probably isn't worth saving, but i don't have that many k6 boards here...if he was willing to plump for a pentiumd chip and new ram i have a lovely board for him
[13:19] <dr_Willis> walmart.com proberly has a $200 machine thats 4x that old thing. :)
[13:20] <_dennister> dr_Willis: i agree, but he's just bought a lovely $500 used laptop...he wants to use this as a multimedia server
[13:20] <dr_Willis> $500 used? gesh.
[13:21] <_dennister> i know...but it was one of his best friends who wanted to sell it...not that old, pretty powerful
[13:21] <dr_Willis> Its amazing the power in laptops these days
[13:21] <dr_Willis> Got a $800 one the other day with 4gb ram. 250gb hd..
[13:21] <_dennister> that friend saved his hide during one of the worst moves from hell i've ever seen...and put him up for two weeks until the new apartment was ready
[13:22] <dr_Willis> Heh heh
[13:22] <patrick> i cant get this sound problem fixed
[13:22] <patrick> i might just reinstall and see if that fixes it]
[13:22] <_dennister> and I've experienced some baaaaaaaaad moves in my time, lol
[13:23] <_dennister> ok, downloaded 'stress' and now how to use it? lol...why can't newly-installed programs show up in the menu?
[13:23] <dr_Willis> _dennister,  because most likely its a cli command
[13:23] <dr_Willis> !info stress
[13:24] <_dennister> yep...i actually tried that first...the results were just not apparent right away...
[13:28] <_dennister> 'man stress' says 'info stress' gives you a full manual, but its in tex...so what i see is the shortest table of contents ever...lol...why can't they make manuals in good old pdf format?
[13:29] <timri> I just upgraded to 8.04 and found out that smplayer has the "wrong" (non-KDE) fileopen dialog. Can I change it myself, or is smplayer not compiled with kde-support?
[13:30] <_dennister> tex seems even more cryptic and hard to navigate than the man pages...i don't understand why you have to learn a whole new program just to learn how to use another one
[13:31]  * timri wonders if there's a KIO slave for info (like there is for man)
[13:31] <dr_Willis> TeX is impressive. :)
[13:31] <dr_Willis> the man page is in TeX weird?
[13:31] <timri> KInfoCenter says: yep, there is a info slave. Cool
[13:32] <dr_Willis>   Texinfo is not the same as 'Tex' :)
[13:33] <Jucato> timri: yes there is
[13:33] <_dennister> what's so good about it?
[13:33] <dr_Willis> Hmm the stress info page.. is one of the better  Info pages ive seen.
[13:33] <dr_Willis> !tex
[13:33] <timri> Jucato: I know, I just saw it in KInfoCenter->protocols :)
[13:33] <dr_Willis> TeX is NOt the same thing as the texinfo page format :)
[13:33] <dr_Willis> Many books are done with TeX
[13:34] <dr_Willis> and/or LaTeX
[13:34] <_dennister> ok, well i typed 'info stress' into terminal, and got virtually nothing in terms of info...googling got me more
[13:36] <jon_> i changed to ext3 now error 15
[13:36] <dr_Willis> _dennister,  huh? i got a rather verbose info page.
[13:36] <dr_Willis> _dennister,  perhaps you dont relize that some of those text items are 'links' to other  pages
[13:37] <dr_Willis> _dennister,  info stress, then use the tab key to go to the links.
[13:37] <_dennister> i guessed that they were links, but there's no info as to how to access the links...ok: tab
[13:37] <dr_Willis> info info
[13:37] <dr_Willis> :)
[13:38] <jon_> can anyone tell me a solution for grub error 15 im trying to run a just installed musix distro
[13:38] <jon_> thanks
[13:38] <TimS> Is there a video catalogue type application? I have a lot of videos in different folders and I want a nice way of looking at thumbnails of them all for me to find the video I want to watch.
[13:38] <an0nym> Moin.
[13:39] <_dennister> dr_Willis: tabbing is just hopping me around the same menu
[13:39] <dr_Willis> _dennister,  its going to the 4 different  links here.
[13:40] <dr_Willis> _dennister,  in konqueror do a --->  info:stress
[13:40] <dr_Willis> :)
[13:40] <timri> TimS: Digikam does that
[13:41] <TimS> timri: For videos?
[13:41] <_dennister> dr_Willis: thanks...info info in terminal just gave me another man page...lol...one manual to understand another manual to understand another manual, to make a tool work
[13:41] <dr_Willis> an info page. :) not a man page.
[13:41] <dr_Willis> info predated the web stuff I recall...
[13:42] <dr_Willis> by a good # of years
[13:42] <timri> TimS: Sure. Even Konqueror (or any app using the thumbnail kio) can show thumbnails of videos
[13:42] <_dennister> ok, so never try tex info tools in terminal...in a web browser
[13:42] <dr_Willis> they work fine in my xterm window :)
[13:42] <TimS> Yes, but the videos are all in different folders, I want to view the all without changing videos.
[13:43] <timri> TimS: "want to view the all without changing videos" does not compute
[13:43] <TimS> Sorry, I want to view the tumbnails for all my videos without changing folders.
[13:44] <timri> TimS: Anyway both Digikam and Konqueror (Ctrl+F) can show all files from a hierarchy in one window.
[13:45] <_dennister> ok, cpu test came back fine, now "dispatching hogs" for hdd test :)
[13:45] <TimS> Using search, I see what you mean, i would never have thought to do that! Brilliant.
[13:45] <_dennister> i love that line..."dispatching hogs"
[13:46] <timri> TimS: It gets even better: In Konquerors icon view (which is what you want) you can filter on name VERY fast (little edit box in the toolbar)
[13:46] <TimS> Yeah, I like the filter box.
[13:47] <_dennister> need to make a pot of coffee and have a cancer stick...bbs
[13:47] <yakuzi> what's the best way to have a dual head on an ati radeon 9600pro if you know on vga is a CRT which should run on 1280x1024@85Hz, on dvi is 20" tft 1680x1050@60Hz the problem is i've clone mode...and i want as in windows extended desktop
[13:47] <TimS> timri: The only slight problem is the huge search pane across the top of Konqueror.
[13:48] <TimS> All I need is to search my home dir for *.avi.
[13:48] <timri> TimS: use the locate IOslave like: locate:/*.avi
[13:49] <timri> TimS: It has the benefit of not using the big search pane
[13:49] <TimS> Anyway to limit it just to one folder?
[13:49] <TimS> Well, one folder includeing sub-directories
[13:49] <sharpe_uk> anyone run into problems with getting nvagp to load instead of the regular gart module on 8.04?
[13:50] <timri> TimS: Hmmm... good point. Don't know though
[13:50] <BluesKaj> howdy
[13:51] <BluesKaj> konqueror locate:file ?
[13:52] <machiel> 'list
[13:53] <engineer> TimS find ~TimS -name "filename" -print
[13:53] <TimS> Needs to be inside a GUI :(
[13:53] <corentin> helo
[13:54] <TimS> Anyway, need some lunch.
[13:57] <dennister> lol...hdd stress crashed pc...will try to replace hdd first
[13:58] <dennister> BluesKaj: don't you ever want to move to ireland or someting from canada?
[13:58] <BluesKaj> Hi dennister , hmm ...why do you ask ?
[13:59] <dennister> all of our isp's are doing the comcast fraud now...crtc will probably let them do it, too, and now with bill c-61...
[13:59] <dennister> handing over our tech rights to any corporation who wants to put a drm lock on...
[14:00] <dennister> we pay more for everything, the us dumps all the bad hardware on us...
[14:01] <dennister> there's absolutely no competition in canada...they're all colluding to rip us off
[14:01] <BluesKaj> yeah, sympatico admits to bit shaping , so I called them about it and threatened to go cable. They said , oh we just do it in the cities. :P
[14:01] <negativ> i'm lucky not living in America, i see...
[14:02] <dennister> lol...and you can't even go to a competitor now because bell is throttling all its wholesalers' cutomers, too
[14:02] <BluesKaj> I'm out in the boonies here, 5K souls with Hispeed dsl , which hasn't slowed down at all.
[14:03] <BluesKaj> err 5k ppl in my town that is
[14:03] <dennister> negativ: yes, and canada is worse in some respects, especially with harper's conservatives handing over our laws to american corps...they only thing we have over americans is good public health care
[14:04] <pranavdangwal> hey
[14:04] <dennister> lol..._dennister has only now left...i shut down that crashing pc 5 minutes ago
[14:04] <patrick> ok reinstalled Kubuntu and sound is now working
[14:05] <patrick> we will see if it still works when i update my packages
[14:05] <negativ> dennister: you have big connection timeouts...
[14:06] <sharpe_uk> ok Im stumped, I blacklisted agpgart and amd64_agp I set Option "NvAGP" "1" in xorg.conf, dmesg doesnt show any errors and shows the nvidia module been loaded and lsmod after a clean boot shows agpgart 1 nvidia
[14:06] <sharpe_uk> yet cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status still shows disabled :|
[14:06] <sharpe_uk> anyone have any idea's what I('ve inevitably) missed?
[14:06] <dennister> any irish shamrocks in the channel? any chance a disabled pensioner frp, canada can move over to your country and live off your equivalent of the dole? ? heheheh
[14:06] <BluesKaj> dennister, if BCE gets sold to the Ontario Teachers Pension Fund and their american partner then it's vulnerable to a took over, then split up and assets sold off like that Icahn predator is trying with Yahoo.
[14:07] <dennister> you mean there's hope for bell being dismantled? it deserves it, u know
[14:07] <BluesKaj> err takeover
[14:07] <negativ> bye-bye guys...
[14:07] <BluesKaj> yup agreed , dennister
[14:08] <dennister> of course, their biggest asset is their monopoly over all phone lines in the country...and anyone buying that asset will have the same power as bell
[14:09] <dennister> and will use the same underhanded, fraudulent practices...just like rogers and every other isp does
[14:11] <dennister> anyway...i guess i'm tired of that topic...it's in the hands of these blasted conservatives and their hired henchmen...and the liberals will not bring them down because stephan dion is a total wimp and doesn't want an eletion, either
[14:11] <BluesKaj> thing is , there will be a lot of yelling about monopolies by the crtc, if BCE is taken over.Right now Bell has the CRTC in it's grasp cuz their both to blame for this situation.
[14:12] <dennister> yep...there's a bit of hope because crtc's head is now speaking up for net neutrality...but i'm not going to hold my breath
[14:12] <dennister> <------------going back to rebuilding that pc
[14:13] <dennister> swap hdd first, then install gutsy, then dist-upgrade to hardy
[14:13] <dennister> if that doesn't solve the probs, then its swapping the mobo
[14:14] <dennister> both are a lot of work, but i don't think there's any way around it...not going to make an unstable system stable with software
[14:15] <dennister> ttyl pps
[14:15] <timri> sharpe_uk: I dont know what you're trying to achieve, but iirc some of these things are case sensitive ("NVAgp")
[14:15] <ubuntu> How can I downgrade my Ubuntu?
[14:16] <ubuntu> I want to downgrade Hardy to Gutsy.
[14:16] <archlix> why do you want to do that ubuntu
[14:17] <vecciora> archlix: Because I want to use 7.10 repository.
[14:18] <sharpe_uk> timri, Ive formatted it case wise exactly as it is in the docs
[14:18] <yakuzi> is there anyone who knows how to get dual head working on an ati card with the restriceted drivers? i've clone mode now and i want extended desktop, is it needed to change xorg.conf?
[14:18] <sharpe_uk> >timri, it looks like I need to modify grub to force it not to load the agpgart module by default
[14:19] <timri> sharpe_uk: ah, ok. In any case, the very fact that you have the  /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/ directory is a good sign
[14:19] <sharpe_uk> never had these problems on slackware (and grub is something I dont know much about (always preferred lilo))
[14:19] <vecciora> I think it's the time to backup my /home.
[14:19] <timri> vecciora: Try to google for "apt pinning"
[14:19] <vecciora> timri: Okay.
[14:21] <dr_Willis> !pin
[14:22] <sharpe_uk> >timri, irritating becuase on this chipset nvagp is significantly better :|
[14:25] <BluesKaj> timri, maybe a judicious sources.list edit to hardy sources would have helped
[14:26] <BluesKaj> downgrading cuz the sources are gutsy seems unproductive to me
[14:26] <timri> BluesKaj: Sorry, that was in response to...?
[14:27] <BluesKaj> apt pinning
[14:28] <timri> BluesKaj: ah, ok. "<vecciora> archlix: Because I want to use 7.10 repository." lead me to suggest that
[14:29] <timri> Anyone here using smplayer on Hardy ?
[14:29] <freddan> greetings all
[14:31] <BluesKaj> sometimes ppl like vecciora, have to be queried a bit more about their goals in order to help them than just giving a quick answer.
[14:33] <john_> hi, does anyone have that link that explains how to upgrade to kde4 beta
[14:34] <john_> oops meant to ask that in #kde
[14:34] <BluesKaj> john_, http://blog.nixternal.com/2008.06.05/hardy-kde-41-beta-1-completed/
[14:35] <john_> ah that was the one BluesKaj, thanks
[14:35] <BluesKaj> np
[14:35] <john_> is beta 2 out yet?
[14:36] <BluesKaj> yes john_, id you follow the sources.list edits in the tutorial, and sudo apt-get update, you'll get the upgrade to beta 2
[14:36] <BluesKaj> if
[14:36] <john_> right, i was about to ask if that was the case
[14:39] <sigma_12> which desktop environment does intrepid alpha one use?
[14:40] <sourcemaker> #kubuntu-kde4
[14:43] <psyco> eek I need help.
[14:44] <psyco> I can't eject my cd drive.
[14:44] <dr_Willis> be sure all processes are not using it
[14:44] <dr_Willis> cd out of /media/cdrom, close any apps  and so on
[14:45] <JdGordon> is there a known issue trying to run the 8.04-kde iso in vkm? (amd64)
[14:45] <JdGordon> it keeps trying to start X and then looks like it crashes out as soon as the deskotp loads
[14:45] <psyco> When I unmoint or eject : http://pastebin.com/m37ecc1fc
[14:45] <yakuzi> !ati
[14:46] <JdGordon> grr... ctrl-alt-backspace killed the wrong X :p
[14:46] <john_> what is people's preferred irc client here?
[14:47] <john_> i usually use xchat but i'm trying out konversation as this is a fresh install
[14:47] <thierry> konversation
[14:47] <psyco> dr_Willis: I dont know how to close those arguments http://pastebin.com/m37ecc1fc
[14:47] <psyco> konversation
[14:48] <dkkong> My sound just stopped working in hardy. I just checked the Info Center and it says my soundcard isn't detected even though it was working.
[14:50] <nitin> hello
[14:50] <john_> hi
[14:51] <nitin> john: i installed firefox 3 on my gutsy, but when i start it, it is in offline mode. how to fix it?
[14:51] <nitin> john: it always starts in offline mode, is there a way to prevent this.
[14:52] <sigma_12> why doesnt elisa work in kubuntu?
[14:52] <BluesKaj> dkkong, updates?
[14:52] <timri> nitin: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/191889
[14:53] <dkkong> BluesKaj: , not that I've done recently
[14:55] <BluesKaj> dkkong, try,  lspci | grep audio ..look for the audio controller
[14:55] <dkkong> BluesKaj: I get nothing from that command
[14:57] <BluesKaj> dkkong, ok, cat /proc/asound/cards
[14:57] <dkkong> BluesKaj: cat: /proc/asound/cards: No such file or directory
[14:58] <nitin> what is tcl
[14:58] <odi_> script language
[14:58] <odi_> amsn is using tcl / zk ;)
[14:58] <odi_> *tk
[14:59] <BluesKaj> dkkong, does ' lspci ' give any clue about audio of any kind ?
[14:59] <dkkong> BluesKaj: No, it used to, but no longer does
[15:00] <nitin> i need to compile scid. i have downloaded the bz2 file. and when i typed ./configure, it asks to install tcl
[15:00] <odi_> type sudo apt-get install tcl8.5
[15:00] <BluesKaj> dkkong, do you have a pci or onboard card ?..should have asked this first
[15:00] <odi_> and the dev package!
[15:01] <dkkong> BluesKaj: Onboard Intel Sound
[15:01] <BluesKaj> !Intelaudio
[15:01] <BluesKaj> !intel
[15:02] <BluesKaj> I know there's an issue with some intel souncards
[15:03] <dkkong> From an update, or from the start?
[15:04] <BluesKaj> both
[15:04] <BluesKaj> dkkong, laptop?
[15:04] <pim> What's a good musicplayer for linux?
[15:04] <dkkong> BluesKaj: Deskto
[15:04] <dkkong> p
[15:04] <BluesKaj> amarok
[15:04] <nitin> odi: you mean sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-devel?
[15:05] <geek> pim: i like kopete. personallt
[15:05] <geek> *amarok
[15:05] <pim> :P
[15:05] <geek> sorry, distracted
[15:06] <odi_> nitin: no, the tcl devel package, try "sudo apt-get install build-essential tcl8.5 tcl8.5-dev"
[15:10] <yakuzi> can anyone help me with setting up dual head on ati card? i've the idea i need to adjust the xorg.conf file so i've two sections for screen etc but i've no idea how
[15:12] <Armagguedes> hey
[15:12] <Armagguedes> can someone name me an alternative for Dreamweaver (does it even run on wine)?
[15:12] <_EmuK> hey
[15:12] <geek> Armagguedes: kompozer IIRC...
[15:12] <Armagguedes> cool
[15:12] <_EmuK> Can anyone tell me if there is a opensource look a like from flash MX ?
[15:12] <Filipp> Armagguedes: I think wine was designed for Dreamweaver
[15:13] <geek> i might have spelled it wrong, its a fork of NVU
[15:14] <Armagguedes> yeah its KompoZer alright
[15:14] <Armagguedes> ok cheers geek Filipp
[15:15] <Armagguedes> i'm gonna see if i can make due with komp
[15:15] <patrick> hello all, how do i get kde 4?
[15:15] <Armagguedes> if not, i'll default to wine+dreamweaver
[15:15] <Dr_willis_> !kde4 | patrick
[15:16] <nitin> how to fix bug?
[15:16] <patrick> thanks
[15:16] <odi_> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[15:16] <BluesKaj> dkkong, make sure linux-restricted-modules and kubuntu-restricted-extras are installed.
[15:21] <nitin> if a bug in program is fixed, then should i upgrade the program to fix it or is there any other way?
[15:23] <geek> nitin: yes
[15:25] <tekstacy> Where does Kontact store the addressbook?
[15:26] <nitin> geek: i have my pendrive connected to my pc now, but when i right click on its icon, there is no ' remove safely option'. can i unplug it directly.
[15:27] <geek> nitin: you could either use the umount command, or just make sure no writing is going on
[15:28] <nitin> geek: i managed it, i used umount command, and then i right clicked on the icon and there was 'safely remove option'
[15:29] <geek> cool
[15:31] <tue> Hey! i somehow managed to mess up my wireless connection information, ie. knetworkmanager start up, but with status: "No active devices". By doing sudo wlanassistant i can connect normally. So what i basically would like to do is to throw out all my network configurations and reinstall, since i know the defaults work. How is that possible?
[15:33] <tue> ie something like dpkg --reconfigure <everything related to the wireless>
[15:34] <knulfine> !de
[15:37] <frothir> in kopete i get a message that im inactive and connected every 10s, damm irritating, anyone knows how to turn it off?
[15:40] <frothir> anybody?
[15:49] <[GuS]> Hi Guys.. I wanted to ask, why there is no Qt4.4 phonon on repositories? I only see KDE phonon libs only...
[15:52] <joker_> can enny one help me config my vido card to work on the tv??
[15:57] <joker_> dose ennyone  know how to set up a grafics card to run 2 moniters??pleas
[16:15] <patrick> Hi Kaffine seems to be stuck in an endless loop when trying to install a codec pack which is already installed
[16:21] <joker_> can i get a lil help to figure out how to get voice on  the chat roomes??pleas im new on linux
[16:25] <eagles0513875> is there a way i can make my kde layout of the k menu look like that of windows vista
[16:27] <eagles0513875> anyone know how i can make my start menu look like this http://www.xpde.com/shots/startmenu.png
[16:27] <BluesKaj> joker_, no voice on freenode
[16:28] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: whoooooooooooooh
[16:29] <dkkong> I couldn't get my onboard soundcard to detect, so I turned it off in the bios and installed a PCI card. The card is detected via lspci, but still no sound. Help?
[16:30] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: any idea how i can get my machine looking like http://www.xpde.com/shots/startmenu.png
[16:32] <jussi01> dkkong: asoundconf -list then asoundconf set-default-card <cardname-here>
[16:33] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, yeah use windows xp pro :)
[16:33] <dkkong> jussi01: The -list just gives me a usage guide
[16:33] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: never
[16:33] <dkkong> asoundconf set-default-card
[16:34] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: i wanna trick people im using xp by making my install look like it
[16:34] <BluesKaj> well, eagles0513875 that's what it looks like to me
[16:34] <dkkong> Nvm, it's just not listing the card
[16:34] <jussi01> dkkong: sorry, should be asoundconf list
[16:34] <jussi01> no -
[16:34] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: doesnt the big x bottom left give it away that its not lol
[16:34] <dkkong> Yup, but it doesn't list the card at all
[16:35] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, not to ppl who know little about linux
[16:35] <jussi01> dkkong: is it there in lspci ?
[16:35] <phoenixx> hey, can someone help me with my tv card(saa7134 chip) ?
[16:35] <dkkong> jussi01: Yes
[16:35] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: i know
[16:35] <eagles0513875> but where i am alot of people dont know much about linux
[16:35] <jussi01> dkkong: could you give the lspci line about it?
[16:36] <dkkong> 04:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS
[16:36] <jussi01> dkkong: weird, that should definately work out of the box
[16:37]  * jussi01 has an audigy2
[16:37] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, then you won't have any probs hiding the fact that your desktop is not XP
[16:37] <eagles0513875> exactly
[16:37] <dkkong> jussi01: That's where I was lost too. It autodetected and ran on the last PC I had it in running hardy
[16:37] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: someone in offtopic said its xfce desktop
[16:37] <jussi01> dkkong: something wrong with your setup then
[16:38] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, dunno , could be
[16:38] <patrick> Hi Kaffine seems to be stuck in an endless loop when trying to install a codec pack which is already installed
[16:39] <dkkong> dmesg seems to be clear, I guess a reinstall is in the future
[16:40] <BluesKaj> dkkong, check in adept for linux-sound-base
[16:41] <dkkong> BluesKaj: Check for installation, or install it?
[16:41] <BluesKaj> both
[16:41] <dkkong> BluesKaj: It's installed
[16:43] <kowalczykb> a
[16:46] <BluesKaj> dkkong, and alsa-base is installed ?
[16:46] <phoenixx> hey, i installed a package called ntlm_auth and now my media players doesn't work rigth (no sound and/or no video)! is there any realationship?
[16:47] <dkkong> BluesKaj: It's installed too
[16:54] <phoenixx> #ubuntu-de
[16:56] <BluesKaj> dkkong, try ,  asoundconf set-default-card "Creative Labs SB Audigy LS"
[17:00] <dkkong> BluesKaj: Still nothing
[17:02] <BluesKaj> yeah dkkong , you prolly won't know until you check alsamixer in the terminal
[17:02] <dkkong> BluesKaj: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[17:05] <patrick> Hi Kaffine seems to be stuck in an endless loop when trying to install a codec pack which is already installed
[17:06] <BluesKaj> patrick, which codec pack ?
[17:07] <patrick> it doesnt say on the pop up window
[17:07] <patrick> seems that it only happens on certain files
[17:07] <patrick> and those which i try to play over my network
[17:13] <andyho623> can someone tell me real quick how to input my ip address in kde4, I forgot how! LOL! thx!!
[17:14] <FFForever> can u guys help me figure out why ff hangs at the end and gmail won't load?
[17:17] <BluesKaj> patrick, describe your network
[17:18] <john_> how are you supposed to know what version of pidin is in adept
[17:18] <john_> it doesn't give a version number
[17:20] <hws> 我想把rearplayer11卸载，该怎么办阿？
[17:25] <scyth> I'm having problems with installing kubuntu 8.04. My graph card is NVIDIA 6600 PCIe. It's a known issue... so.. when trying to start the installation, my computer freezes and I have to do a hard-reset. This happens when trying to start the X, so the driver is not working correctly
[17:26] <scyth> I had this problem a year and a half ago, but I managed to "ctrl+c" kdm on boot, and reconfigure the defoult xorg.conf... but I can't do this now
[17:26] <scyth> any other ideas ?
[17:26] <althair> Salut !
[17:39] <eagles0513875> scyth: i have one and it works fine with gutsy havent tried hardy cuz i currently dont have access to the machine
[17:40] <eagles0513875> scyth: i would try boot into single user mode and reconfig the xorg
[17:41] <scyth> eagles0513875, ok, will try it
[17:41] <eagles0513875> scyth: that will take you into cli only btw no x no kdm no nothing that should give you a chance to reconfigure
[17:41] <scyth> yeah
[17:42] <scyth> I know I have to change "nv" to "vesa" in order to work
[17:42] <eagles0513875> scyth: thats weird though cuz on gutsy didnt have to change anything
[17:42] <eagles0513875> then again i have not been on that machine since december
[17:42] <scyth> I've tried gutsy also .. but no luck
[17:42] <scyth> it's an old problem with nvidia
[17:43] <scyth> it's not ubuntu's fault... I only wanted a way to edit xorg.conf in a simple maneer
[17:44] <scyth> bbl
[17:57] <d1os_mio> kubuntu rulez
[17:58] <tue> hm. im getting the following error when installing compiz-kde: compiz-kde: Depends: compiz-core (= 1:0.7.4-0ubuntu6) but 1:0.7.4-0ubuntu7 is to be installed
[17:58] <SebNaitsabes> any virtualbox users in here?  ideally the cloused source version.  since that's the one that has USB suppourt
[17:58] <tue> any ideas on how i could resolve this?
[18:00] <tue> I mean, force it to ignore this dependency or something.
[18:02] <dkkong> 				
[18:06] <eml> Hey, what package do I need for k3b to convert mp3s into wav?
[18:06] <jussi01> eml: soundkonverter does that iirc
[18:07] <eml> Does it work as a library/plugin for k3b also?
[18:07] <jussi01> no
[18:08] <eml> I'm looking for something like that
[18:08] <eml> I was here with the same issue about a month ago, can't remember the package's name though :P
[18:17] <psyco> Hello, how do I mount a CD with "- mount the CD/DVD without the 'unhide' option. "
[18:21] <john_> how do i configure kwin's desktop effect?
[18:38] <kisbojler> sziasztok
[18:40] <kisbojler> senki?
[18:40] <tue> hey, how can i use apt to download a deb package? ie. i want to use dpkg --force-depends, and thus i need the deb file.
[18:43] <crimsun_> tue: depends on what you mean by "apt".
[18:44] <tue> well, for example, apt-get install -d compiz-kde would do the trick, where it not that compiz-kde has broken dependencies and thus apt-get wont download it.
[18:44] <andyho623> can someone help me figure out why my other box can't connect to the internet? I've already edited /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/resolv.conf and restarted networking, but I get a fail on it.. I dont get it.. should be workin..
[18:44] <crimsun_> tue: both apt-get and aptitude are capable of downloading (but not installing) packages as long as the packages reside in deb sources in your apt cache
[18:44] <tue> crimsun_: yah, but it fails, since the package of compiz-kde is buggy (i think)
[18:44] <crimsun_> tue: so you want to use aptitude download compiz-kde
[18:44] <tue> crimsun_: thanks
[18:47] <tue> crimsun_: Do you know anything about where i should report this error?  i mean in the compiz-kde package.
[18:48] <ncfi1013_> i uninstalled compiz but i still have to run "kwin --replace & killall compiz compiz.real" every time i log in or else my window borders are messed up and i have no system tray. i have deleted all compiz and emerald settings files that i could find and have set the session to load aclean session on startup but nothing seems to help
[18:48] <asobi> !flash
[18:55] <ncfi1013_> I uninstalled compiz but I still have to run “kwin –replace & killall compiz compiz.real” every time I log in or else my window borders are messed up and I have no system tray. I have deleted all compiz and emerald settings files I could find and have set up the session to load a clean session on startup but nothing seems to help
[18:58] <andyho623> ﻿well I think I mighta found some info.. just ran sudo dhclient eth0 and it came back with DHCPDISCOVER on etho0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7 and a few more.. and then.. No DHCPOFFERS recived. No working leases in persistent databse - sleeping. Any clues how to fix this?? I'm pretty sure it should be 255.255.255.0
[19:04] <ShadowKnight> Hey all.
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[19:09] <ncfi1013_> I uninstalled compiz but I still have to run “kwin –replace & killall compiz compiz.real” every time I log in or else my window borders are messed up and I have no system tray. I have deleted all compiz and emerald settings files I could find and have set up the session to load a clean session on startup but nothing seems to help
[19:10] <aborym> How do I specify a password when I mount an nfs share? it says reason given by server: Permission denied
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> ncfi1013_: kde4 or kde3?
[19:10] <ncfi1013_> kde3
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> aborym: you need to use sudo
[19:10] <aborym> ActionParsnip: I did
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> ncfi1013_: put a bash script in .kde/Autostart
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> aborym: users cannot mount, make sure the user you are accessing nfs has access to the share
[19:11] <ncfi1013_> how do i do that. you have go real slow with me. im new to this
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> ncfi1013_: yuo'll need #!/bin/bash at the start followed by the usual line you execute. put an & at the end of the command
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> ncfi1013_: in ~/.kde/Autostart add any text file you want
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> ncfi1013_: add the 2 lines, it will run it when you log on
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> ncfi1013_: glad one more person has realised how worthless compiz is
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> Guest59698: logging on as root is the worst idea ever
[19:15] <frothir> !Gnash
[19:16] <ShadowKnight> Guest59698: just type sudo before you run the command.
[19:16] <ShadowKnight> Hi ActionParsnip.
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> hi ShadowKnight
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> ShadowKnight: more root idiots eh
[19:17] <ShadowKnight> Yeah.
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> ShadowKnight: but i dont like restricted system access :(
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> ;)
[19:17] <ShadowKnight> Whoops, I just typed rm -r /* in my command line!
[19:17] <uwe__> hey guys, someone knows how to compile?
[19:18] <ShadowKnight> Kidding, kidding.
[19:18] <ShadowKnight> uwe__: usually, just run ./configure
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> uwe__: read the readme in the source
[19:18] <ShadowKnight> uwe__: then make
[19:18] <ShadowKnight> uwe__:  then make install
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> uwe__: you'll need build-essentials
[19:18] <uwe__> it says all the time gtk+ 2.4 not found
[19:18] <uwe__> by running configure
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> uwe__: thats because its a gnome app
[19:19] <ShadowKnight> uwe__: run synaptic and install gtk+ 2.4 -dev
[19:19] <aborym> ActionParsnip, how do I do that? I don't see any option to give permission to users
[19:19] <aborym> ActionParsnip where do I set that?
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> aborym: what system is the share on?
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> aborym: winslow or linux?
[19:20] <aborym> fedora
[19:20] <uwe__> I'm using kubuntu, synaptic will still work?
[19:21] <ShadowKnight> uwe__: yes.
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> aborym: you using samba?
[19:22] <aborym> yeah, samba works fine
[19:22] <uwe__> gtk+ 2.4 doesn't exist T_T
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> uwe__: use cli and use autocomplete
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> !samba | aborym
[19:23] <aborym> I know what samba is. I'm asking about NFS
[19:23] <ShadowKnight> !ubottu
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> aborym: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/nfs-server-and-client-configuration-in-ubuntu.html
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> aborym: looking good?
[19:27] <aborym> I tried that. It doesn't say anything about user/password
[19:27] <uwe__> sorry somebody needed my help!
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> aborym: i always use samba as a standard interface
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> aborym: id google round bro
[19:27] <uwe__> so I have to install cli-common?
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> uwe__: what for?
 uwe__: use cli and use autocomplete
[19:28] <aborym> Yeah but I have a linux based media player which supports both samba and NFS, but streaming over samba performs like crap so I wanna test NFS
[19:28] <aborym> It says in the manual that NFS will work much better
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> uwe__: yeah use sudo apt-get install lib and press tab to autocomplete, then narrow it down
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> aborym: maybe you could tweak your client to cache more video, if its over wireless at any point then it sucks anyway, wifi is shit sloqw
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> slow*
[19:30] <aborym> No, it is over wired ethernet. It's slightly sluggish when streaming 1080p videos over samba
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> aborym: try telling your apps to cahce more before playing
[19:31] <aborym> So I thought I'll transfer files over samba and NFS between my fedora and ubuntu laptops, and see if there's any difference in speed
[19:31] <uwe__> T_T
[19:31] <szakulec> how do I do a quick & dirty creation of a .deb?
[19:31] <uwe__> I'm totally lost... where I have to type those lines in synaptic
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> uwe__: you dont, open konsole and type in there
[19:32] <EagleScreen> szakulec using pbuild is the faster
[19:32] <uwe__> I tried there too but nothing happened
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> uwe__: sudo apt-get install <some package>
[19:34] <uwe__> some package?
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> uwe__: well replace that with what you need
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> uwe__: let me get it for you
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> sudo apt-get install gnome-libs
[19:35] <uwe__> there are over hundert packages which starts with gtk, I have no idea which is the right one
[19:35] <uwe__> oh
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> uwe__: use tab to autocomplete so you know its right
[19:35] <slow-motion> hi
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> !hi | slow-motion
[19:36] <uwe__> if I press tab it says there are over 32000 different packages...
[19:36] <WildChild7> hello there. Can anyone tell me how to figure out what's the name of cdrom ?
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> WildChild7: try mount in konsole
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> uwe__: try gnome-libs
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> uwe__: id try finding a kde equivelant
[19:37] <WildChild7> ActionParsnip: /dev/sr0 on /media/ATONEMENT type iso9660 (ro,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000)
[19:37] <WildChild7> ActionParsnip: so the devuce bane us /dev/sr0 ?
[19:38] <ShadowKnight> uwe_: you may find it easier just to search for the package using synaptic. ActionParsnip, quit confusing him with the command line.
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> uwe___: it might be libgtk2.0-common
[19:39] <ShadowKnight> Actually, it probably ends in -dev if he wants to compile.
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> ShadowKnight: yeah, im not too versed with gnome libs, they are silly
[19:40] <uwe__> that's already install but I need a gtk with the version 2.4
[19:40] <uwe__> not lower
[19:40] <uwe__> anyway thanks for helping me, I think there's no possibility to install it...
[19:41] <ShadowKnight> uwe_: search for gtk 2.4 in synaptic. If you have the hardy repositories activated, it should come up.
[19:45] <uwe__> even with the search tool I'm just getting weird package names
[19:45] <uwe__> anyway thanks again, I'll stop to try for now
[19:45] <ShadowKnight> Okay. Compiling is a bit hard. What were you trying to compile?
[19:46] <uwe__> gens
[19:46] <ShadowKnight> gens?
[19:46] <ShadowKnight> !gens
[19:47] <ShadowKnight> ah. I see.
[19:47] <uwe__> it's an emulating program for the sega mega drive, I wanted to listen some backgroundmusic from a old game
[19:48] <ShadowKnight> I see. The website has only dos versions though?
[19:48] <ShadowKnight> What were you compiling?
[19:48] <uwe__> a linux version of gens
[19:48] <uwe__> there is no dos version, just for windows and linux
[19:49] <ShadowKnight> I mean hole-in-the-wall when I say dos.
[19:50] <ShadowKnight> it seems there is a package for it. Dgen , it's called.
[19:50] <uwe__> I tried dgen currently
[19:50] <ShadowKnight> And?
[19:51] <uwe__> same thing, failed by compiling
[19:51] <uwe__> checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
[19:51] <uwe__> checking for c++... no
[19:51] <uwe__> checking for g++... no
[19:51] <uwe__> checking for gcc... gcc
[19:51] <uwe__> checking whether the C++ compiler (gcc  ) works... no
[19:51] <uwe__> configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C++ compiler cannot create executables.
[19:51] <uwe__> uwe@uwe-desktop:~/Desktop/dgen-sdl-1.23$
[19:51] <ShadowKnight> Well, this is a package, so you don't need to compile it.
[19:52] <uwe__> oh
[19:52] <ShadowKnight> type this into Konsole : sudo apt-get install dgen
[19:52] <uwe__> hoe did you know that I don't have to install it?
[19:53] <uwe__> how*
[19:53] <ShadowKnight> Packages install themselves. No compliling is needed.
[19:54] <ShadowKnight> now, I just installed it myself. If you type dgen into Konsole after you install it, it'll give you commands that you can run roms with.
[19:54] <sigma_12> !info dgen
[19:54] <ShadowKnight> and if you type man dgen, it's give you the manual page.
[19:55] <ShadowKnight> *it'll
[19:56] <uwe__> it seems it's wokring... I think
[19:56] <uwe__> thanks for explaining :D
[19:56] <uwe__> really, thank you very much
[19:56] <uwe__> it's impossible to find those sound files from an unkown game like that
[19:57] <ShadowKnight> you're welcome.
[19:57] <extrallli> can anyone suggest how to config mod_evasive + mod_security to prevent bruteforce .htacesss password hacking???
[19:58] <ShadowKnight> uwe__:  just know that it's a lot less hassle to look for packages in the repositories than to compile from source. Try it yourself next time!
[20:02] <nair> Hi everybody. Does anyone have any tip to speed up internet connection? I have disabled ipv6 module and the connection is really very slow considering I'm on a 1Mbps Adsl.
[20:02] <ShadowKnight> Hmm... Now that I've installed the emulator... I suppose I won't be sued if I download ten year old Sega roms... muhahahah.
[20:05] <mercuree> gotta love amarok! http://www.spirithostonline.com/images/snapshot1.png
[20:15] <nicolasssss> hola alguien puede ayudarme?
[20:16] <nicolasssss> hello some body help me?? i have a problem for install kubuntu with apic
[20:16] <nicolasssss> pleasee!! por favorr!!
[20:17] <ShadowKnight> nicolasssss: what is apic?
[20:17] <nicolasssss> the command noapic
[20:17] <nicolasssss> if i not write this command in the kernel start command my screen paint black color
[20:18] <nicolasssss> you can help me?
[20:18] <ShadowKnight> nicolasssss: I'm sorry, I don't know anything about that.
[20:18] <nicolasssss> i have a gforce 6100 on board
[20:21] <munk_> can someone help me with vmware? i need to configure it and i get some errors when i try
[20:21] <dwidmann> ShadowKnight: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apic
[20:23] <dr_Willis> !vmware | munk_
[20:24] <munk_> dr_Willis, it doesnt work on the last version?
[20:24] <dr_Willis> I belive there are some issues with hardy and vmware at this time.
[20:24] <dr_Willis> I use virtualbox mainly now a days.
[20:27] <iwagne> salut tlm
[20:29] <madmax_> i am finshed to download alternative kubuntu , now how can i do OEM Kubuntu?
[20:32] <Armagguedes> does anyone know of a cellphone compatible with KDE (specifically kaddressbook), so i can import/export contacts?
[20:34] <madmax_> i am finshed to download alternative kubuntu , now how can i do OEM Kubuntu?
[20:34] <jussi01> Armagguedes: I am fairly sure the n95 does
[20:35] <ShadowKnight> bbl everyone
[20:36] <Armagguedes> jussi01, anything from sony-ericson?
[20:36] <jussi01> !away > SKnight-away
[20:37] <jussi01> Armagguedes: sorry, no idea about sony ericson
[20:37] <jussi01> !portables | Armagguedes this may help
[20:38] <Armagguedes> cool mate
[20:38] <Armagguedes> cheers
[20:42] <madmax_> i am finshed to download alternative kubuntu , now how can i do OEM Kubuntu?
[20:42] <madmax_> i am finshed to download alternative kubuntu , now how can i do OEM Kubuntu?
[20:42] <madmax_> i am finshed to download alternative kubuntu , now how can i do OEM Kubuntu?
[20:42] <madmax_> i am finshed to download alternative kubuntu , now how can i do OEM Kubuntu?
[20:43] <pim_> !rules|madmax_
[20:44] <jussi01> ShadowKnight-awa: please dont
[20:44]  * geek also seems to think madmax_\s question makes no sense
[20:44] <ShadowKnight-awa> Sorry, just testing the command.
[20:44] <ShadowKnight-awa> last time
[20:45] <madmax_> sorry
[20:47] <geek> madmax_: however the answer to your question is on the wiki, if i understand it properly
[20:51] <geek> madmax_: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuOEMInstaller
[21:03] <aldo_> hello
[21:05] <jussi01> hi
[21:14] <dragon_> good afternoon everyone
[21:14] <dragon_> does anyone know where I can fide a program that hides my ip for ubuntu (ie peerguardian)
[21:18] <ben_> hi
[21:18] <ben_> hello
[21:18] <dragon_> hello ben
[21:19] <ben_> any one speak french?
[21:19] <romunov> niet
[21:19] <ben_> quelqun parle francais
[21:19] <ubuntu> hi
[21:19] <geek> ben_: there's a french channel...
[21:19] <jussi01> !fr | ben_
[21:20] <ben_> any girl here
[21:20] <ubuntu> is there any polisch chanel ?
[21:20] <jussi01> !pl
[21:20] <geek> ben_: its the internet, where men are men, women are women, and little girls, FBI agents
[21:21] <ubuntu> no, women are men :P
[21:21] <ben_> geek can you traduct that
[21:21] <jussi01> !ot
[21:21] <geek> ben_: nope
[21:22] <geek> ubuntu: my bad, jetlag
[21:22] <ben_> i dont speak very well english
[21:22] <jussi01> ben_: use the french channel then
[21:23] <ubuntu> anyone know how to recovery lost partition ?
[21:23] <ubuntu> recover *
[21:24] <snova> how was the partition lost?
[21:24] <dwidmann> ubuntu: try testdisk
[21:25] <ubuntu> dont laugh... i connect new drive and all data dissaperd ...
[21:25] <ubuntu> i realy don't know how :|
[21:25] <snova> neither do i.
[21:25] <ubuntu> k
[21:26] <SKnight-away> Back.
[21:26] <snova> when did you discover (or how) it was missing?
[21:26] <SKnight-away> Who's watching the Euro final?
[21:26] <jussi01> SKnight-away: did you read the pm from the bot
[21:26] <geek> ubuntu: testdisk
[21:26] <SKnight-away> Yes?
[21:26] <jussi01> !ot | SKnight-away
[21:26] <SKnight-away> I used away and back.
[21:26] <sourcemaker> #kopete
[21:26] <ubuntu> i'm looking this testdisk
[21:26] <jussi01> SKnight-away: which client are you using?
[21:26] <snova> ubuntu: it might not really be gone. maybe you just can't access it
[21:26] <SKnight-away> Well, yes, you don't want me to change it, so I don't.
[21:27] <SKnight-away> That's what it's set to.
[21:27] <SKnight-away> Hang on.
[21:27] <snova> ubuntu: what filesystem was on it? how did you find out it was gone?
[21:28] <ubuntu> snowa: ext3 ant xfs and hmm, system isn't loading and fdisk -l (live CD) says that there isn't any partitions
[21:28] <snova> ubuntu: well, i don't know much about fdisk
[21:28] <snova> ubuntu: but are you trying to boot from it?
[21:29] <ubuntu> snowa: ther's no parition tables on hdd
[21:29] <snova> ubuntu: well, i was hoping it was just a mistake
[21:30] <snova> ubuntu: (please spell my nick correctly, V not W, though it doesn't mean anything)
[21:30] <jussi01> !tab | ubuntu
[21:31] <ubuntu> oh, sorry :)
[21:31] <snova> ubuntu: it's not important
[21:32] <snova> ubuntu: what is hdd?
[21:32] <snova> ubuntu: i can't find it
[21:32] <ubuntu> woohoo, testdisk worked
[21:32] <snova> ubuntu: any good news?
[21:33] <ubuntu> all data are back
[21:33] <snova> ubuntu: huh. i wonder what happened.
[21:33] <Red_Wraith> Okay, settings all fixed.
[21:33] <ubuntu> snova: i know what, mu PC hate me :D
[21:33] <Red_Wraith> I'm ShadowKnight, btw. It seems someone registered my nick within the past hour. ><
[21:34] <snova> Red_Wraith: really? /whois doesn't report anything.
[21:35] <Red_Wraith> Well, I had problems logging in as ShadowKnight.
[21:35] <ubuntu> k, brb i'll check can i boot my PC
[21:35] <Red_Wraith> Kept asking for a password.
[21:35] <snova> Red_Wraith: hmm. which client?
[21:36] <Red_Wraith> Konversation
[21:36] <snova> Red_Wraith: oh, so am i.
[21:36] <Red_Wraith> anyway, so I went all the way and registered this one.
[21:36] <snova> Red_Wraith: try /nick ShadowKnight anyway, unless you already have
[21:37] <szakulec> if you know the password, switch to the Ubuntu IRC tab, and type /msg NickServ identify password
[21:37] <Red_Wraith> No, apparently changing your name here pisses certain people off.
[21:37] <Red_Wraith> I don't know the password, someone ELSE registered it.
[21:38] <szakulec> unless someone got your password, the only other way to get the account is to have it lapse after 2 months, and someone asks for it
[21:38] <Red_Wraith> I didn't have a password. ShadowKnight was unregistered.
[21:39] <dwidmann> perhaps someone saw it, decided they liked it, and decided to use it??
[21:39] <Red_Wraith> I guess so.
[21:39] <Red_Wraith> Hmm. Nice victory for Spain... Who else saw the final?
[21:40] <jussi01> Red_Wraith: #kubuntu-offtopic please
[21:41] <Red_Wraith> Mmm. Vigilant ops today.
[21:41] <Red_Wraith> So, is it worth it to get the KDE4 beta?
[21:41] <dwidmann> ooh, seems Blizzard has announced Diablo 3
[21:42] <dwidmann> Red_Wraith: jussio1 is vigilant every day.
[21:42] <jussi01> Please!
[21:42] <snova> i tried installing kde4, but i got wierd results
[21:42] <dwidmann> Red_Wraith: and yes, it's worth grabbing the KDE4 beta
[21:42] <snova> mostly graphics related
[21:42] <Red_Wraith> Is the only improvement the eye-candy?
[21:43] <dwidmann> Red_Wraith: improvement over which version of KDE? 3.x? Well, the interface is definitely a bit nicer .... some of the apps are more functional, some less so. Most of it seems to be stabilizing with the 4.1 beta2.
[21:44] <snova> i think it should be left to improve for know, or the applications at least. quite a few of my favorite programs are trying to port. i think it's best left until they finish and stabilize.
[21:44] <Red_Wraith> Mmm... I guess I'll hold off a bit. I had enough trouble getting my graphics card to work in my current setup.
[21:44] <dwidmann> snova: Intrepid will be KDE4 only I think .... however, apps that don't have a KDE4 port will have the KDE3 version included.
[21:45] <Red_Wraith> When does intrepid come out?
[21:45] <dwidmann> In about 4 months.
[21:45] <snova> oh good.
[21:45] <szakulec> here's how to decide if you'd like KDE 4.1: if you like being ahead of the curve, and know that IT'S NOT A clone of KDE 3.5x, and are willing to accept more features for *slightly* less stability, then do it
[21:45] <ubuntu> All glory to the TestDisk :)
[21:46] <dwidmann> ubuntu: glad to hear that it worked for you ... it has saved my butt a few times in the past too :)
[21:46] <Red_Wraith> Damn. I just installed 8.04 from 6.04 with about 14 hours of pain, and now another distro comes out? ergh...
[21:46] <dwidmann> Red_Wraith: every 6 months.
[21:46] <geek> LOL
[21:46] <Red_Wraith> I hope it's more stable than Hardy.
[21:46] <snova> i'm still using 7.08 for now.
[21:46] <Red_Wraith> It was the week of hell till I got it to work right.
[21:46] <ubuntu> me to
[21:47] <dwidmann> Guess I can't comment, I've found Hardy pretty stable ...
[21:47] <geek> dwidmann: its entirely likely someone would have a port, if they liked it
[21:47] <Red_Wraith> Oh well, I gained a lot of valuable linux experience.
[21:47] <sourcemaker> #amaro
[21:47] <sourcemaker> #amarok
[21:47] <Red_Wraith> what about amarok?
[21:47] <dwidmann> geek: well, it's a lot of work to port the apps ... some of the devs for some of the apps are waiting, others are in progress and just won't be ready in time.
[21:48] <snova> amarok is still porting
[21:48] <geek> dwidmann: true but someone would do it anyway
[21:48] <dwidmann> geek: a lot of them are just being re-written from scratch
[21:48] <Red_Wraith> Ehhh... I can't live without amarok... I'm sticking to 3.
[21:48] <geek> dwidmann: i mean, someone would probably maintain a 3.5.x family for ibex as a community project
[21:48] <dwidmann> Red_Wraith: you can run amarok 1.4.x in KDE4
[21:49] <dwidmann> geek: ah, I see what you're saying now
[21:49] <Red_Wraith> dwidmann: I still think it'
[21:49] <Red_Wraith> s not worth the trouble.
[21:50] <dwidmann> Red_Wraith: how can it be considered trouble when pretty much everything is automated ... you just install "kubuntu-kde4-desktop" and everything is taken care of, how is that trouble?
[21:50] <geek> dwidmann: in my opinion 3.5.x and 4.x are totally different beasts
[21:50] <dwidmann> geek: kind of ... though 4.x will have a definitive upper hand before long
[21:51] <ubuntu> geek: and wich is beter ?
[21:51] <dwidmann> geek: maybe after 4.3 or so
[21:51] <snova> i had some problems with it. for one, Kicker kept showing up on top of Plasma :-)
[21:51] <dwidmann> snova: killall kicker?
[21:51] <geek> ubuntu: right now... 4.x needs a LOT of work
[21:51] <geek> eventually, it will be a matter of what you want, and what you run
[21:51] <ubuntu> hehe
[21:52] <snova> dwidmann: that's pretty much what i did
[21:52] <dwidmann> My main roadblock at the moment is the lack of dualhead support ....
[21:52] <snova> isn't that an X thing?
[21:53] <dwidmann> snova: partially.
[21:53] <dwidmann> snova: but the DE needs to support it properly also.
[21:53]  * geek wishes that running KDE 3 and 4 together would keep KDE 4 apps seperate on 3 and vice versa
[21:53] <Red_Wraith> dwidmann: that's trouble when OpenGL dissappears for no apparent reason and apt-get says interesting stuff like "deleting 432 files". I barely control c-d in time when that happened... still lost some important stuff.
[21:53] <Red_Wraith> This was the hardy install.
[21:53] <dwidmann> geek: at least it gives you a (KDE3) or (KDE4) respectivelly in the menu
[21:54] <dwidmann> Red_Wraith: weird ...
[21:54] <dwidmann> brb folks
[21:54] <geek> dwidmann: still annoys me enough not to do it right now
[22:12] <eduardopl> my alt f2, alt f1 and print screen shotcuts just stopped to work, does anyone know why?
[22:13] <Red_Wraith> What did you do right befor eduardopl ?
[22:13] <Red_Wraith> *before
[22:13] <eduardopl> i have no idea
[22:13] <eduardopl> what usually causes that?
[22:14] <Red_Wraith> I don't know. I haven't heard of such a problem before.
[22:14] <Red_Wraith> What usually happens when you press F1? The Kmenu pops up?
[22:15] <eduardopl> yep
[22:15] <eduardopl> alt f1 won't work though
[22:15] <Red_Wraith> Did you try rebooting?
[22:15] <snova> f1 opens the help for me
[22:15] <Red_Wraith> snova, I meant alt f1
[22:16] <snova> oh.
[22:16] <snova> (of course, the kmenu isn't around now, so i can't test it)
[22:16] <Red_Wraith> anyway, I have to leave for a few minutes. Food!
[22:18] <K350> Finns här någon som är duktig på php och regular expressions och som har tid ochlust at thjälpa till lite?
[22:18] <urbinek> it's me ( ubuntu)
[22:19] <urbinek> is there something like HDD Regenerator for linux ?
[22:19] <urbinek> i don't like to turn off my PC for 11h to check 160 GB :S
[22:20] <geek> urbinek: fsck?
[22:20] <urbinek> will it work like HDDRegenerator ( deleting bad blocks )
[22:20] <snova> urbinek: it checks for problems and fixes them
[22:21] <snova> urbinek: or tries to, anyway
[22:21] <urbinek> physically ?
[22:21] <geek> it takes its time, but it usually will work when nothing else does
[22:21] <urbinek> logical aren't problem
[22:21] <snova> not sure what you mean.
[22:21] <snova> it runs when you computer boots, and executes a quick check
[22:21] <urbinek> bad block can be logical and physical
[22:21] <RurouniJones> ...
[22:22] <RurouniJones> HDD regenerator looks like snake oil to me
[22:22] <snova> what filesystem are you using?
[22:22] <urbinek> physical mean that surface is damaged
[22:22] <snova> it doesn't take 11 hours for me....
[22:22] <urbinek> RurouniJones: why ?
[22:23] <RurouniJones> If your HDD is physically damaged then no software can undo the damage
[22:23] <urbinek> snova: to check 100MB it ned 23 sec 160 000 MB...
[22:23] <RurouniJones> All it could do us unmark bad sectors and say they are good again
[22:23] <RurouniJones> At which point integrity goes out hte window
[22:23] <urbinek> RurouniJones: I want mark those sectors
[22:23] <urbinek> I know how HDD regenerator works
[22:24] <RurouniJones> http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=hdd+regenerator+%2B+snake+oil
[22:24] <RurouniJones> Ran that just for curiosities sake.
[22:24] <urbinek> OS Support:
[22:24] <urbinek> Windows 2000/2003/9x/XP
[22:24] <RurouniJones> You want to mark bad HDD sectors as good?!
[22:24] <urbinek> ~_~
[22:25] <urbinek> No, i wa't mark them as unused
[22:25] <urbinek> (OS, was not there :P )
[22:26] <urbinek> i want to block those sectors, that is what HDD regenerator does
[22:26] <RurouniJones> erm
[22:26] <RurouniJones> That is what most programs do
[22:26] <RurouniJones> Like checkdisk
[22:26] <RurouniJones> or the linux equiv that I can't remember at the moment.
[22:26] <urbinek> fsck
[22:27] <urbinek> but it's correct errors in partiton table
[22:28] <coil> im trying to reinstall grub
[22:28] <coil> how do i do that...
[22:28] <coil> im on the live cd and its not workin
[22:28] <urbinek> pm me
[22:29] <jussi01> !grub | coil
[22:33] <coil> jussi01: didn't work
[22:38] <coil> jussi01: still not booting
[22:56] <john_> are there any handy guides to setting up a lamp server on a regular kubuntu install?
[22:58] <Armagguedes> can someone name me an alternative for Dreamweaver (does it even run on wine)? i have komposer lined up, but its development seems to have ceased ~1 year ago.....
[22:58] <Armagguedes> is it still good?
[22:58] <john_> kate :p
[23:00] <geek> Armagguedes: yes
[23:00] <snova> assuming dreamweaver is wysiwyg html editor, Kompozer is OK. i've used it a little.
[23:02] <maxitenerife> españaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[23:02] <maxitenerife> oe oeo eoeoe
[23:02] <Red_Wraith> I'm back.
[23:02] <Red_Wraith> celebrating the Euro Cup?
[23:02] <maxitenerife> yes
[23:02] <maxitenerife> only me
[23:12] <bobbo85> hi all i just switched from ubuntu hardy to kubuntu kde 4
[23:13] <d1os_mio> bobbo85, how do you like it so far?
[23:14] <bobbo85> i'm actually feeling a lot more lost than i thought i would, but i have a good feeling about it still
[23:17] <bobbo85> My screenlets are showing up in the bottom panel as individual windows, does anyone know how to change this?
[23:49] <ubuntu> al gun español
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> ﻿is there an app for amarok XUL remote for mobile phones?
[23:59] <syntaxblack> kbfx is not overiding the normal start menu
[23:59] <syntaxblack> it looks the same
[23:59] <syntaxblack> :(
[23:59] <syntaxblack> help needed