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pwnguindoes ati actually work with 3d yet?00:03
pwnguintretle: I'm not sure gilouche is right for Ubuntu. my suspicion is that it's less usable00:04
pwnguinIt looks neat in a screenshot, certainy00:05
pwnguincertainly00:05
DanaGMy current theme: http://picpaste.com/pics/screenshot-orange-nodoka.1213694702.png00:05
tretlejust using the widow border, hows it less usable?00:05
pwnguintretle: how do i know where the button boundaries stop for minimize, maximize and close?00:05
pwnguinDanaG: fail00:05
DanaGwhy?00:06
tretle404 - no pic here?00:06
DanaGaah00:06
tretlewhy do you need to know that?00:06
DanaGAah, expired.00:06
DanaGer, pic expired from the site.00:07
pwnguintretle: because thats how I know how to use it?00:07
tretlethe tooltip will say minimize, close, maximize00:07
DanaGhttp://picpaste.com/screenshot-orange-nodoka.png00:07
pwnguinsorry, that wasnt helpful of me00:07
pwnguintretle: because thats how I know where to click00:07
pwnguinadditionally, the button design helps point out that they're clickable00:08
tretleso the tooltips x, box and undersore icons dont give you proper instruction?00:08
tretle*underscore00:08
tretleI think you are dumbing down users too much, lol00:09
pwnguinthey might not; it's really important that such claims be tested. this is just a hunch00:09
tretleits used in opensuse, lol00:09
pwnguini think you're eliminating too much information00:09
pwnguinits like the difference between architecture and engineering00:10
pwnguinarchitecture people love big empty spaces, and neat looking buildings.00:10
pwnguinengineers like stuff that works00:10
tretlegilouche works00:11
tretlepeople will not look at the window border and say how do i close this00:11
pwnguinDanaG: what's with the openGL fish?00:11
pwnguintretle: sufficiently advanced users are going to change the defaults anyways00:12
tretlethats not a very good reason for dismissing it00:13
tretleif thats the case why have a new theme at all00:13
pwnguinwell in my lone opinion, to fix the remaining usability problems00:13
pwnguinyou can probably get more opinions on the mailing list00:15
DanaGAtlantis2.00:16
DanaGFun.00:16
DanaGEspecially in the sky above the bridge.00:17
nothlitcody-somerville: did you get my xubuntu logo mockups?02:47
cody-somervillenothlit, no, sorry. link? :)02:50
nothlit07:22:57 < nothlit> cody-somerville: http://core.joejaxx.net/~nothlit/xubuntu/ the .xcf is new stuff, open in gimp-- the pngs are the sketches i showed you @ the airport and paintovers so you can see how they look  simplified... make  sure you're zoomed out02:52
cody-somervilleneat :)02:57
pwnguini wish i could find a good video of a mouse on a treadmill02:57
nothlitanyways if you don't like those i can do a new set of sketches, or stop, otherwise I can see about making a preliminary svg02:59
pwnguinhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6653451215387750571&q=mouse+treadmill&ei=M-xmSIu2D5Xk4ALhs-HOAg02:59
cody-somervillenothlit, I want to show this to Jim. I'll get back to you soon, okay? :)03:00
pwnguinif you ask nicely they might send you a high quality video on dvd ;)03:01
nothlitcody-somerville: np take as long as you need03:04
DanaGHeh, this is random, but moderately amusing: http://wincustomize.com/zoom.aspx?skinid=1702&libid=2   -- wooden icon theme.07:58
DanaGI wouldn't use it.. but it does still give me a bit of a laugh.07:58
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