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| pwnguin | hmm. it's never good when the first page of google search for an idea contains a patent hit | 02:32 |
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| ion_ | A software patent? Just ignore it. :-P | 02:34 |
| pwnguin | i wasn't planning on implementing it anyways | 02:35 |
| pwnguin | i could see a future where software patents exist | 02:35 |
| pwnguin | 3 year terms and working source code | 02:36 |
| pwnguin | fortunately, it looks like they're all taking my small idea and building something bigger with it, rather than claiming the small idea as their own | 02:42 |
| pwnguin | just lookin to see if there's a standard way of doing DAGs in XML | 02:42 |
| Hobbsee | Keybuk: ping? | 08:02 |
| Iulian | G'morning | 09:03 |
| LCID_Fire | Hi | 12:22 |
| LCID_Fire | Does anyone know how to properly package a autotools build app? | 12:22 |
| RAOF | LCID_Fire: Almost everyone here, I'd wager. | 12:29 |
| persia | LCID_Fire: In fact, it's the default, for any packaging guide you might find. | 12:31 |
| LCID_Fire | the guides I found till now are not very clear about this :( | 12:32 |
| persia | LCID_Fire: Which guide? | 12:33 |
| brt | HI All how to sync wm6 smatphone in linux ? | 12:33 |
| ion_ | brt: The first step is to read the topic. | 12:33 |
| persia | brt: You'll want to ask that question on #ubuntu, or if there is no response, post it on questions.launchpad.net/ubuntu | 12:34 |
| brt | ah thx | 12:35 |
| RAOF | LCID_Fire: Oh, is this writing the autofoo to _build_ said app, or doing the Debian packaging? | 12:36 |
| LCID_Fire | RAOF: Autotools chain is running fine - but packaging the whole thing for debian is confusing me pretty much | 12:37 |
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| persia | LCID_Fire: In short, just make sure that debian/rules build contains everything required to build the package, including any autotools stuff. | 12:39 |
| LCID_Fire | I have - but now it complains about the autocreated files | 12:39 |
| persia | When does it complain? | 12:40 |
| LCID_Fire | e.g.: | 12:40 |
| LCID_Fire | dpkg-source: cannot represent change to INSTALL: | 12:40 |
| LCID_Fire | dpkg-source: new version is plain file | 12:40 |
| LCID_Fire | dpkg-source: old version is something else | 12:40 |
| persia | You also need to make sure debian/rules clean restores the directory to the state it had prior to debian/rules $(anything else) | 12:41 |
| LCID_Fire | That would mean I'd have to remove all autocreated files!? | 12:42 |
| persia | Yes. | 12:42 |
| LCID_Fire | I just hope there is some call to do this easily | 12:43 |
| LCID_Fire | Did not really help. I now added ./autogen.sh and ./configure before doing 'make distclean' but it still complains | 12:59 |
| RAOF | Is there not already a nice clean upstream tarball? (Presumably not) | 12:59 |
| ion_ | It’s better to run the auto* stuff yourself and let it stay in the diff. | 13:00 |
| LCID_Fire | No it's my own app ;) | 13:00 |
| RAOF | LCID_Fire: Then why don't you release a tarball with "make dist"? | 13:00 |
| RAOF | Nice and easy. | 13:00 |
| LCID_Fire | Because I don't know shit about debian packaging!? | 13:01 |
| ion_ | That’s not related to Debian at all. | 13:01 |
| LCID_Fire | Where is the difference between make dist and make install? | 13:03 |
| Robot101 | one makes a dist tarball of the source, the other installs the compiled program to your system | 13:03 |
| LCID_Fire | k, but I still need to compile & package the tarball since I have users that are presumably not experienced enough to compile for themselfs | 13:05 |
| persia | LCID_Fire: Sure, but you'll find it easiest if you get the upstream tarball all perfect first, and then package it. Less confusing that way. | 13:07 |
| RAOF | Traditionally, the way to distribute a release is with a tarball made by make dist (note: for added bonus marks, ensure that make distcheck works) | 13:07 |
| RAOF | That way, people don't need to mess with the autofoo; they just run ./configure | 13:08 |
| LCID_Fire | Does anyone have a good tutorial on make dist? Google is not very good for such topics | 13:09 |
| RAOF | Its an automagic target created by autotools. | 13:09 |
| RAOF | It basically tar-s up everything that's needed to build the package. | 13:10 |
| LCID_Fire | Ok, I fixed it. I had an error in a configuration switch I usually never compile - which 'make dist' chocked on | 13:13 |
| emgent | morning | 13:13 |
| LCID_Fire | more like good afternoon :) | 13:13 |
| persia | Depends on one's location. It's even night some places :p | 13:17 |
| LCID_Fire | Not to mention one's getting up habits :) | 13:17 |
| LCID_Fire | k, I give up - not in the mood fore more headache anymore. Thanks for now though | 13:24 |
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| brandonperry_ | nixternal: ping | 15:35 |
| nixternal | brandonperry_: pong? | 15:39 |
| brandonperry_ | uh, I had a question about install KDE4.1-beta 2 for leonov, but I was tol dto go to #leonov | 15:39 |
| brandonperry_ | but thanks for responding :-) | 15:40 |
| nixternal | np | 15:40 |
| BenC | pitti, doko: Any chance one of you is around? | 19:22 |
| BenC | cjwatson: ? | 19:25 |
| eric_medintux | hello | 19:52 |
| eric_medintux | I need some help to create a paquet debian for ubuntu | 19:52 |
| eric_medintux | need to transfert ini files into $home dir of user | 19:53 |
| eric_medintux | in the structure /etc/skel do this ? | 19:53 |
| BenC | eric_medintux: there's better channels than this for packaging questions | 19:57 |
| Chipzz | eric_medintux: 1) #ubuntu-motu 2) what you're trying to do is against debian policy | 19:58 |
| eric_medintux | BenC : which ones ? | 19:58 |
| Chipzz | eric_medintux: #ubuntu-motu | 19:58 |
| eric_medintux | Chipzz : ok thanks. against debian policy ? Lots of apps put things into $home/.*** | 19:59 |
| eric_medintux | this is not recommanded ? | 19:59 |
| BenC | eric_medintux: they create them in $HOME when the app is run, not when it is installed | 19:59 |
| BenC | eric_medintux: You cannot install config files in every $HOME when the package is installed :) | 19:59 |
| Chipzz | eric_medintux: let me clarify: you are allowed to put files in /etc/skel . You are (for obvious reasons) NOT allowed to touch any file in users homedirs | 20:00 |
| eric_medintux | BenC : Ok my app need to install not the package | 20:00 |
| BenC | eric_medintux: ok, then that's not a packaging question at all | 20:00 |
| BenC | eric_medintux: and /etc/skel is the wrong place | 20:00 |
| eric_medintux | what is the right place ? | 20:01 |
| BenC | eric_medintux: if your app needs to copy it from somewhere when it is started up, then the best place is /usr/share/<pkgname>/base.config or something | 20:01 |
| Chipzz | eric_medintux: the reason is very simple: by creating or changing files in the users homedir, you are altering the behaviour of applications, which the user didn't ask for | 20:01 |
| eric_medintux | ok but this is a supplementary step into getting app working | 20:01 |
| BenC | Chipzz: your confusing this, applications are allowed to modify their own config files in a users homedir | 20:01 |
| Chipzz | anyway -> #ubuntu-motu | 20:01 |
| BenC | Chipzz: that has nothing to do with packaging | 20:02 |
| eric_medintux | my files does contain only user parameters | 20:02 |
| Chipzz | BenC: no I'm not confused. just trying to explain him why packages can't alter files in the users' homedir | 20:02 |
| BenC | Chipzz: he's not asking for the package to change it, his app is | 20:02 |
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| eric_medintux | Benc, Chippzz : I'm french so... I wish my package to install *.ini of my app into $home. Maybe creating a group named <myapp> ? | 20:04 |
| eric_medintux | then user tells i want to be a myapp user and get the ini files | 20:04 |
| BenC | eric_medintux: Uh, now you're way off base...go to #ubuntu-motu | 20:04 |
| eric_medintux | K bye and thank you for all. | 20:04 |
| Yud_Zroc | any people on to help me with something real quick on a definition | 23:11 |
| wgrant | !ask | 23:14 |
| ubottu | Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-) | 23:14 |
| Yud_Zroc | what is this error mean "svn: Malformed network data" | 23:15 |
| wgrant | Yud_Zroc: You want to ask in a Subversion channel, I believe. | 23:16 |
| wgrant | As it's not Ubuntu development, and it's not really Ubuntu at all. | 23:16 |
| Yud_Zroc | ok tyvm for the tip | 23:16 |
| Yud_Zroc | do u know what the channel is called | 23:17 |
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