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ubottuIn ubottu, esac said: !jdk is <reply> jdk is the Java SE Development Kit which includes the Java Runtime Environment (JRE) as well as command-line tools for development of Java applets. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java for installing Java as well as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Development_Kit01:19
elkyok, should ubottu be opped up to stop the floodbot fighting with it?01:33
esaccant floodbot just give ubottu an exception ?01:34
elkyit'd be possible, yes. except the maintainer is awol01:40
* nickrud wonders when he enlisted :->01:41
elkyheh01:42
elkywhen he accepted the op post :Þ01:42
nickrudcrap01:42
elkyhehe01:43
esacam i able to add content directly to ubottu or does it have to be approved by an ubuntu-op first ?01:44
nickrudesac needs review first, too many people were abusing it back when01:44
esacunderstood :)01:45
nickrudesac shorter is better, more likely to get added01:45
elkynot sure about the wikipedia link either01:46
esacnp ill modify when i get back. i though wikipedia links would be liked :)01:49
esacsuch a beautiful day, i need to drink beer and grill01:49
nickrudhm, fried chicken. Maybe a steak. Good idea01:51
elkyconsidering anyone can change a wikipedia page....01:53
ubottuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (CTCP/NOTICE)02:10
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (CTCP/NOTICE)02:10
ubot3In #ubuntuforums-beginners, m_newton said: !learn lol is lol04:52
esacand hence thats why we need moderation04:59
elkyyes05:03
elkyand all the people who merely respond to the messages they get sent, not realising it's a bot05:03
m_newtonlol05:07
ubottuIn #ubuntu-offtopic, eboyjr said: !meaningoflife is <reply> The meaning of life is the meaning of ubuntu.06:08
Madpilotubottu, meaningoflife  is <reply>42.06:10
ubottuIn #ubuntu-ops, Madpilot said: ubottu, meaningoflife  is <reply>42.06:10
Madpilotgah06:10
Madpilotwhat's the login proc for this new improved bot?06:11
Hobbsee~login06:14
ubot3login: system login tools. In component main, is required. Version 1:4.0.18.2-1ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 256 kB, installed size 2868 kB06:14
Hobbsee@login06:14
ubottuHobbsee: The operation succeeded.06:14
Hobbseeubottu, meaningoflife  is <reply>42.06:14
ubottuI'll remember that, Hobbsee06:14
HobbseeMadpilot: ^06:14
Madpilot@login06:14
ubottuMadpilot: The operation succeeded.06:15
Madpilotsilly bot06:15
Hobbseehehe06:20
nickrudcrazy brits, think adams is a decent writer06:26
Madpilot<== not a Brit. Won't dispute the crazy part.06:31
nickrudbc'ers are displaced brits, I'm from seattle. Seen it ;)06:32
nickrudI mean, Victoria? High Tea at that quintessential british hotel?06:33
Madpilotnickrud, quintessential tourist trap, you mean06:34
nickrudheh. sorta like the space needle06:35
Madpilotexactly06:36
MadpilotI'm going to try to get down to Seattle sometime later this year - should ping you for beer and such if you're in the area06:37
nickrudah, now I'm in LA. Trying to schedule something with Jack_Sparrow06:37
nickrudhaven't actually lived in seattle since the mid 90's, been steadily rolling down the coast06:39
Madpilotif you down to LA, you're about to run out of American coastline. How's the Spanish, senor?06:41
nickrudsucky. Oh, so sucky06:45
nickrudI am a classic monolingual americano06:45
bazhangm_newton, how may we help you07:20
bazhangm_newton, please read the /topic; if you have nothing pressing then please /part07:24
bazhang!idle > m_newton07:31
ubottum_newton, please see my private message07:31
nickrudhttp://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2007/08/18/ubuntu-%E2%80%93-why-it-is-wrong-for-america.aspx#comments07:43
elkywow, they got a really good photo of mneptok: http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/10000200000001900000013599b0e8a1.png07:48
* bazhang wonders who the extra idlers are07:48
ubottuIn ubottu, raitann said: what is the best network manager07:50
ubottuIn ubottu, raitann said: x is the best y07:50
elkyesac, m_newton, we like to keep this channel relatively clear of idlers. thanks.07:50
ubottuIn ubottu, raitann said: what is the best network manager?07:51
bazhangEleaf is back in #ubuntu07:55
bazhangelky, ^^07:56
elkybazhang, yes, we're giving him a chance to earn another holiday07:56
bazhangokay elky07:57
* jussi01 wakes up08:28
ompaul!whoami10:32
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about whoami10:32
ompaul@login10:32
ubottuompaul: The operation succeeded.10:32
kahrytanmay I have my ban on #ubuntu-offtopic lifted, please?10:54
Jack_Sparrowwere you using another nick?11:03
kahrytanno, Jack_Sparrow11:04
Jack_SparrowWhen were you banned?11:04
kahrytan#ubuntu-offtopic Banlist: Thu Jun 12 05:01:18 *!kahrytan@* douglas.freenode.net11:05
kahrytanthat was sooner then that.11:06
kahrytanoh wait, thats right. that was a ban due to a compliant filed.11:06
PriceChildkahrytan: why do you want the ban lifted?11:09
Jack_SparrowPriceChild thanks for taking over on this..11:10
kahrytanPriceChild, If you are worried i would go back in there, I wouldn't. But If I have to due to help in #ubuntu going offtopic, i can at least have option to following the rules.11:10
PriceChildkahrytan: could you reword that please? I'm confused.11:12
kahrytanPriceChild, i have no desire to rejoin -offtopic community. But I would like it removed so when I am in #ubuntu and help goes -offtopic, i can take it to -offtopic like the rules say. Additionally, i just like to see it removed so I know its not lifetime ban and I have option to rejoining if I wanted too.11:14
Jack_Sparrowkahrytan have you been kicked and or banned in ubuntu as well in the past11:16
kahrytanJack_Sparrow,  i think PC is aware of that.11:17
kahrytanPriceChild,  So, the decision?11:24
Myrttigood morning11:30
kahrytanAloha. Myrtti11:31
PriceChildkahrytan: I wouldn't like to make a decision on my own, its not my ban etc. We can see what others think. I don't however think this is a pressing issue, -offtopic is not a required channel for any part of contributing in the Ubuntu community, and there are plenty of other offtopic channels out there on the network.11:35
kahrytanthere is one more thing .... You might consider removing one of emma's bans. There is two in the list.11:36
PriceChildSomething to keep in mind as right now for example I have to run for a little.11:36
PriceChildkahrytan: in -offtopic's?11:36
kahrytanyes11:37
kahrytani notced shes there twice11:37
kahrytanshe has a cloak now too11:38
PriceChildkahrytan: I don't think that is anything to concern you to be blatantly honest. We're in pretty regular contact with emma, and things are going well.11:38
kahrytanPriceChild, you will be talking to the council arent you?11:39
PriceChildkahrytan: pardon?11:39
kahrytanPriceChild,  by others, you mean the council11:41
jussi01Afternoon all11:41
PriceChildkahrytan: although the decision will more than likely rest with them, I want to see what others (by which I mean everyone) thinks.11:42
PriceChildHey jussi01.11:42
PriceChildkahrytan: I'm going afk for a little, will reply if I find anything left for me when I return.11:44
bazhanghe was recommending linux mint in main channel the other day.11:47
elkyfor what reason?11:54
Myrttimerh12:00
Jack_Sparrowelky bazhang  please review comment in channel awhile back ...  I removed him after more comments in pm, but would like your opinion about this12:00
Jack_Sparrowtrask12:01
MyrttiI still get my teeth on edge whenever that indian feller in -ot sir's or ma'ams people12:01
Jack_Sparrowgrep ubuntusatanic from our logs12:01
elkyMyrtti, yeah, i know12:02
MyrttiJack_Sparrow: what about ubuntu satanic?12:03
Jack_SparrowI removed trask as he felt that it was suitable topic in ubuntu12:03
Jack_Sparrowubuntusatanic was the start of the problem/discussion12:04
Myrttioh, right12:04
Jack_Sparrowtrask and jeeves__12:04
Myrttithere's nothing wrong per se about Ubuntu SE (apart that it's a bit offtopic for #ubuntu), but the discussion after it was most definitely not suitable12:23
Myrttioh doodah12:24
MyrttiI've misplaced my phone and am afraid to move in case I'd drop it12:25
Myrtti>___<12:25
Myrttiha, there it was, on the edge...12:25
Jack_SparrowAtta girl.living on the edge12:29
ubottuIn #ubuntu, Vixus said: Ubottu's !dvd hint is useless.13:01
Myrtti!dvd13:03
ubottuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs13:03
jussi01right...13:34
Hobbseei've spoken with kahrytan about how he should not confuse people by using the wrong terminology.13:45
Hobbseeif the situation in +1 happens again (or -devel), please act appropriately there.13:45
Hobbsee(he's had his warning, and appears to be doing it because he can't be bothered to use the correct terminology)13:45
elkyheh13:54
ompaulwell it appears that kahrytan is banned from -offtopic and I can't see the ban14:39
ompaulwhich begs the question is it an akick14:39
Hobbsee+d?14:39
ompaulperhaps14:40
ompaulPriceChild, ^^ is that to be lifted?14:40
Hobbseeit's ident and nick, it looks like.14:40
ompaulif it is that14:40
* ompaul goes to look again14:40
PriceChildompaul: I don't know, would rather not choose myself.14:42
ompaulwell he told me he is against the GPL, not oss  so I have to figure he is trolling me14:43
ompauland I can't deal with that14:43
Hobbseehe was looking to licence his stuff under the bsd licence, so i doubt he's against open source.14:44
Hobbseebecause it's more free and open14:44
ompaulsay some14:44
ompauland then say other14:45
ompauls14:45
Myrttiopinions are like farts - everyone has them and they all smell bad alike14:46
bazhanghis logic for being reinstated is kinda weird though14:46
Jack_SparrowPriceChild kahrytan has been anything but a model citizen in our community of Uubntu as well14:46
PriceChildHe's found the bsd license which e agrees with14:46
PriceChildompaul: ^14:47
ompaulMyrtti, and you can just about stand your own :P14:47
Myrttiexactly14:48
ompaulfrankly I am going to push him here to be dealt with - cos I no longer have interest - as I feel a conflict of interest is there14:48
Hobbseeompaul: for you to unban him from -offtopic?14:48
* Hobbsee thought the CC was supposed to deal with it, anyway.14:48
ompaulyeap well he is in #ubuntu is he not?14:49
ompaulI have asked him to put me on /ignore ;-)14:49
Hobbseehe's in +1 too, but i fail to see how that's relevant?14:49
ompaulI thought he was banned globally from many channels, where the ircc had control but obviously I am missing something14:54
Hobbseeompaul: you might try asking for a list of ircc decisions that are in effect, added to the wiki or something, to attempt to reduce confusion.  i'm unsure of the specifics15:00
ompaulHobbsee, good idea15:01
PriceChildI don't "think" we made any decisions with kahrytan? He was just banned in places and complained to the CC?15:01
ompaulahh15:01
ompaulwell15:01
Hobbseewasn't that months ago?15:01
PriceChildyep15:01
ompaulPriceChild, go check this out if you want to waste some time in a good way :)  http://www.linuxelectrons.com/news/linux/16774/greg-kroah-hartman-linux-kernel15:02
Hobbseeso, why hasn't anything happened yet?15:02
ompaulcos the there was no decision afik15:03
ompaulthats a howl15:03
ompaulthats a howl15:03
ompaul* Hobbsee has quit ("Coyote finally caught me")15:03
PriceChildI think the end result was that we didn't need to make a decision.15:03
Hobbseeheh15:03
ubottuIdleOne called the ops in #ubuntu (redbull)15:09
Myrttiredbull is working himself to be banned, I banned him yesterday once15:12
bazhangesac m_newton please dont idle.15:20
bazhang!idle | esac m_newton15:23
ubottuesac m_newton: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries.15:23
Tm_Tompaul: err, that page is interesting, no background color defined though style needs white15:25
ompaulTm_T, complain to the devs file a bug ;-)15:26
Tm_Tompaul: perhaps ;)15:28
ompaulthe system they use should never have let that happen15:28
Tm_Tompaul: just very typical "design flaw" for me to see, using dark back and light colors15:28
m_newtonbazhang, srry, i was gone... I got to go now to... Sry for idoling15:40
* m_newton is away: loligaging at the wee hours of nite; just to say hi to all and host my server.15:40
bazhangm_newton, please /part15:40
jussi01got sick of everyone asking...15:44
bazhangesac still remains :)15:44
bazhangits no nevermind to me btw15:45
jussi01I love ppa's on a sunday - no build queues :D15:46
* Hobbsee loves having power to reprio builds.15:48
Myrttimerh15:49
jussi01Hobbsee: shut up...15:54
jussi01:P15:54
Tm_Thmmmm15:59
Tm_Tompaul: "...so Canonical doesn't give back to community" interesting statement, perhaps pr etc etc isn't "giving back" ;)16:00
ompaulTm_T, that is GKH but I will defend canonical with the phrase lies damn lies and statistics ;-)16:01
ompauland note what I said there ;-)16:01
Tm_Tompaul: yup :)16:02
bazhang<CWii> Nimblefinger, Wireless is hit or miss.17:04
Picimeh17:05
bazhangrobg come to life again17:05
bazhanghis answer is google it for most everything.17:05
bazhangneo_the_user was unbanned?17:10
Pici@btlogin17:11
PiciLooks like it17:12
Jack_SparrowNot by me.. I hope..17:13
Jack_SparrowFYI I just buried Hardy17:13
naliothbazhang: is neo_the_user being troublesome?17:17
bazhangnalioth, he quit; moderately offtopic before that though17:18
bazhangam more concerned about CWii at this point17:19
* Myrtti waves her plate full of mushrooms filled with Mustapekka cheese wrapped in bacon under jussi01's nose18:16
Myrttiommmm nommmmm nommmmm18:18
Tm_Thmm18:23
* jussi01 sadly eats his billy's pizza...18:26
Nafallo...yea, cause I obviously wasn't hungry enough already :-P18:27
* Nafallo /ignores IRC for a bit ;-)18:27
MyrttiLOL18:28
Myrttiat least I didn't take pictures and put them into Flickr _this_ time18:29
* Myrtti snickers18:29
TheSheepfood?18:32
* jussi01 eats TheSheep18:33
Myrttijussi01: the Finnish way?18:36
jussi01huh?18:37
MyrttiRosvopaisti18:39
Myrtti(cattle thief way of cooking meat)18:39
jussi01no idea...18:40
jussi01picture?18:40
Myrttidig a hole, put rocks in the bottom, build a fire, let it burn to coals, dig some of the hot rocks out, wrap the meat into tinfoil / baking paper / wet newspaper or what ever you got, put in the hole, toss the hot rocks on top, bury with the sand, keep buried for 12 - 24 hrs18:41
Myrttimakes excellent MUTTON and chicken18:42
Myrtti:-P18:42
jussi01Myrtti: too long a cook time...18:56
Myrttitrue, but works great on also not so tender meat ;-)19:00
* Myrtti pokes TheSheep 19:00
ubottuSeveredCross called the ops in #ubuntu ()19:04
jussi01yay for idiots...19:05
Myrttiindeed19:05
nickrudmalice is not idiotic, but evil19:05
* jussi01 disagrees - its both19:06
jussi01idiotic because all it gets him is a ban...19:07
nickrudcould care less about him, and he probably didn't care (malicious people are the prime ban evaders anyway)19:12
nickrudI would expect that is19:12
* Myrtti sighs20:04
jussi01someone who is an -offtopic op should have a peek in there... at certain links...20:15
* Myrtti looks20:15
PriceChilduuu I heard the best song lyric today20:17
PriceChild"every squirrel has a pearl of wisdom"20:17
jussi01rofl PriceChild what kind of song was that?20:17
* ompaul looks at PriceChild 20:18
PriceChildit was on kerrang20:18
ompaulshould I search for that lyric20:18
jussi01kerrrang?20:18
PriceChildoh wait sorry20:18
PriceChild"ever squirrel shares a pearl of wisdom"20:18
jussi01TORRRREEEESSSSS20:19
jussi01oh, sorry.... :D20:19
Myrttijussi01: enjoying my dvb-t tuner?20:19
* Myrtti sings to Eagles20:19
jussi01Myrtti: nah, Im watching it on the 32" tele :D20:19
Myrttibourgeois20:19
jussi01but the tuner has been _fantastic_20:20
Myrttigreat that it works better for you than for me20:20
jussi01:)20:20
* jussi01 waits...20:27
Myrttihmm?20:27
jussi01see #u20:27
ompauljussi01, he is dead I killed him20:28
jussi01I noticed...20:28
jussi01repeatoffender?20:28
Myrttiypu20:28
ompauljussi01, well known20:29
jussi01ahh, understand then20:29
jussi01:D :D :D21:38
jussi01someone remind me how to get chanserv into a channel permanently?22:16
jpdsjussi01: /cs help set guard22:16
jussi01jpds: thanks :D22:16
* jpds hugs jussi01 22:17
* jussi01 hugs jpds back22:18
* Myrtti takes a screenshot22:18
* jpds hugs Myrtti quickly for the snap.22:19
* Myrtti sighs22:48

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