[01:19] In ubottu, esac said: !jdk is jdk is the Java SE Development Kit which includes the Java Runtime Environment (JRE) as well as command-line tools for development of Java applets. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java for installing Java as well as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Development_Kit [01:33] ok, should ubottu be opped up to stop the floodbot fighting with it? [01:34] cant floodbot just give ubottu an exception ? [01:40] it'd be possible, yes. except the maintainer is awol [01:41] * nickrud wonders when he enlisted :-> [01:42] heh [01:42] when he accepted the op post :Þ [01:42] crap [01:43] hehe [01:44] am i able to add content directly to ubottu or does it have to be approved by an ubuntu-op first ? [01:44] esac needs review first, too many people were abusing it back when [01:45] understood :) [01:45] esac shorter is better, more likely to get added [01:46] not sure about the wikipedia link either [01:49] np ill modify when i get back. i though wikipedia links would be liked :) [01:49] such a beautiful day, i need to drink beer and grill [01:51] hm, fried chicken. Maybe a steak. Good idea [01:53] considering anyone can change a wikipedia page.... [02:10] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (CTCP/NOTICE) [02:10] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (CTCP/NOTICE) [04:52] In #ubuntuforums-beginners, m_newton said: !learn lol is lol [04:59] and hence thats why we need moderation [05:03] yes [05:03] and all the people who merely respond to the messages they get sent, not realising it's a bot [05:07] lol [06:08] In #ubuntu-offtopic, eboyjr said: !meaningoflife is The meaning of life is the meaning of ubuntu. [06:10] ubottu, meaningoflife is 42. [06:10] In #ubuntu-ops, Madpilot said: ubottu, meaningoflife is 42. [06:10] gah [06:11] what's the login proc for this new improved bot? [06:14] ~login [06:14] login: system login tools. In component main, is required. Version 1:4.0.18.2-1ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 256 kB, installed size 2868 kB [06:14] @login [06:14] Hobbsee: The operation succeeded. [06:14] ubottu, meaningoflife is 42. [06:14] I'll remember that, Hobbsee [06:14] Madpilot: ^ [06:14] @login [06:15] Madpilot: The operation succeeded. [06:15] silly bot [06:20] hehe [06:26] crazy brits, think adams is a decent writer [06:31] <== not a Brit. Won't dispute the crazy part. [06:32] bc'ers are displaced brits, I'm from seattle. Seen it ;) [06:33] I mean, Victoria? High Tea at that quintessential british hotel? [06:34] nickrud, quintessential tourist trap, you mean [06:35] heh. sorta like the space needle [06:36] exactly [06:37] I'm going to try to get down to Seattle sometime later this year - should ping you for beer and such if you're in the area [06:37] ah, now I'm in LA. Trying to schedule something with Jack_Sparrow [06:39] haven't actually lived in seattle since the mid 90's, been steadily rolling down the coast [06:41] if you down to LA, you're about to run out of American coastline. How's the Spanish, senor? [06:45] sucky. Oh, so sucky [06:45] I am a classic monolingual americano [07:20] m_newton, how may we help you [07:24] m_newton, please read the /topic; if you have nothing pressing then please /part [07:31] !idle > m_newton [07:31] m_newton, please see my private message [07:43] http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2007/08/18/ubuntu-%E2%80%93-why-it-is-wrong-for-america.aspx#comments [07:48] wow, they got a really good photo of mneptok: http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/10000200000001900000013599b0e8a1.png [07:48] * bazhang wonders who the extra idlers are [07:50] In ubottu, raitann said: what is the best network manager [07:50] In ubottu, raitann said: x is the best y [07:50] esac, m_newton, we like to keep this channel relatively clear of idlers. thanks. [07:51] In ubottu, raitann said: what is the best network manager? [07:55] Eleaf is back in #ubuntu [07:56] elky, ^^ [07:56] bazhang, yes, we're giving him a chance to earn another holiday [07:57] okay elky [08:28] * jussi01 wakes up [10:32] !whoami [10:32] Sorry, I don't know anything about whoami [10:32] @login [10:32] ompaul: The operation succeeded. [10:54] may I have my ban on #ubuntu-offtopic lifted, please? [11:03] were you using another nick? [11:04] no, Jack_Sparrow [11:04] When were you banned? [11:05] #ubuntu-offtopic Banlist: Thu Jun 12 05:01:18 *!kahrytan@* douglas.freenode.net [11:06] that was sooner then that. [11:06] oh wait, thats right. that was a ban due to a compliant filed. [11:09] kahrytan: why do you want the ban lifted? [11:10] PriceChild thanks for taking over on this.. [11:10] PriceChild, If you are worried i would go back in there, I wouldn't. But If I have to due to help in #ubuntu going offtopic, i can at least have option to following the rules. [11:12] kahrytan: could you reword that please? I'm confused. [11:14] PriceChild, i have no desire to rejoin -offtopic community. But I would like it removed so when I am in #ubuntu and help goes -offtopic, i can take it to -offtopic like the rules say. Additionally, i just like to see it removed so I know its not lifetime ban and I have option to rejoining if I wanted too. [11:16] kahrytan have you been kicked and or banned in ubuntu as well in the past [11:17] Jack_Sparrow, i think PC is aware of that. [11:24] PriceChild, So, the decision? [11:30] good morning [11:31] Aloha. Myrtti [11:35] kahrytan: I wouldn't like to make a decision on my own, its not my ban etc. We can see what others think. I don't however think this is a pressing issue, -offtopic is not a required channel for any part of contributing in the Ubuntu community, and there are plenty of other offtopic channels out there on the network. [11:36] there is one more thing .... You might consider removing one of emma's bans. There is two in the list. [11:36] Something to keep in mind as right now for example I have to run for a little. [11:36] kahrytan: in -offtopic's? [11:37] yes [11:37] i notced shes there twice [11:38] she has a cloak now too [11:38] kahrytan: I don't think that is anything to concern you to be blatantly honest. We're in pretty regular contact with emma, and things are going well. [11:39] PriceChild, you will be talking to the council arent you? [11:39] kahrytan: pardon? [11:41] PriceChild, by others, you mean the council [11:41] Afternoon all [11:42] kahrytan: although the decision will more than likely rest with them, I want to see what others (by which I mean everyone) thinks. [11:42] Hey jussi01. [11:44] kahrytan: I'm going afk for a little, will reply if I find anything left for me when I return. [11:47] he was recommending linux mint in main channel the other day. [11:54] for what reason? [12:00] merh [12:00] elky bazhang please review comment in channel awhile back ... I removed him after more comments in pm, but would like your opinion about this [12:01] trask [12:01] I still get my teeth on edge whenever that indian feller in -ot sir's or ma'ams people [12:01] grep ubuntusatanic from our logs [12:02] Myrtti, yeah, i know [12:03] Jack_Sparrow: what about ubuntu satanic? [12:03] I removed trask as he felt that it was suitable topic in ubuntu [12:04] ubuntusatanic was the start of the problem/discussion [12:04] oh, right [12:04] trask and jeeves__ [12:23] there's nothing wrong per se about Ubuntu SE (apart that it's a bit offtopic for #ubuntu), but the discussion after it was most definitely not suitable [12:24] oh doodah [12:25] I've misplaced my phone and am afraid to move in case I'd drop it [12:25] >___< [12:25] ha, there it was, on the edge... [12:29] Atta girl.living on the edge [13:01] In #ubuntu, Vixus said: Ubottu's !dvd hint is useless. [13:03] !dvd [13:03] For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs [13:34] right... [13:45] i've spoken with kahrytan about how he should not confuse people by using the wrong terminology. [13:45] if the situation in +1 happens again (or -devel), please act appropriately there. [13:45] (he's had his warning, and appears to be doing it because he can't be bothered to use the correct terminology) [13:54] heh [14:39] well it appears that kahrytan is banned from -offtopic and I can't see the ban [14:39] which begs the question is it an akick [14:39] +d? [14:40] perhaps [14:40] PriceChild, ^^ is that to be lifted? [14:40] it's ident and nick, it looks like. [14:40] if it is that [14:40] * ompaul goes to look again [14:42] ompaul: I don't know, would rather not choose myself. [14:43] well he told me he is against the GPL, not oss so I have to figure he is trolling me [14:43] and I can't deal with that [14:44] he was looking to licence his stuff under the bsd licence, so i doubt he's against open source. [14:44] because it's more free and open [14:44] say some [14:45] and then say other [14:45] s [14:46] opinions are like farts - everyone has them and they all smell bad alike [14:46] his logic for being reinstated is kinda weird though [14:46] PriceChild kahrytan has been anything but a model citizen in our community of Uubntu as well [14:46] He's found the bsd license which e agrees with [14:47] ompaul: ^ [14:47] Myrtti, and you can just about stand your own :P [14:48] exactly [14:48] frankly I am going to push him here to be dealt with - cos I no longer have interest - as I feel a conflict of interest is there [14:48] ompaul: for you to unban him from -offtopic? [14:48] * Hobbsee thought the CC was supposed to deal with it, anyway. [14:49] yeap well he is in #ubuntu is he not? [14:49] I have asked him to put me on /ignore ;-) [14:49] he's in +1 too, but i fail to see how that's relevant? [14:54] I thought he was banned globally from many channels, where the ircc had control but obviously I am missing something [15:00] ompaul: you might try asking for a list of ircc decisions that are in effect, added to the wiki or something, to attempt to reduce confusion. i'm unsure of the specifics [15:01] Hobbsee, good idea [15:01] I don't "think" we made any decisions with kahrytan? He was just banned in places and complained to the CC? [15:01] ahh [15:01] well [15:01] wasn't that months ago? [15:01] yep [15:02] PriceChild, go check this out if you want to waste some time in a good way :) http://www.linuxelectrons.com/news/linux/16774/greg-kroah-hartman-linux-kernel [15:02] so, why hasn't anything happened yet? [15:03] cos the there was no decision afik [15:03] thats a howl [15:03] thats a howl [15:03] * Hobbsee has quit ("Coyote finally caught me") [15:03] I think the end result was that we didn't need to make a decision. [15:03] heh [15:09] IdleOne called the ops in #ubuntu (redbull) [15:12] redbull is working himself to be banned, I banned him yesterday once [15:20] esac m_newton please dont idle. [15:23] !idle | esac m_newton [15:23] esac m_newton: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries. [15:25] ompaul: err, that page is interesting, no background color defined though style needs white [15:26] Tm_T, complain to the devs file a bug ;-) [15:28] ompaul: perhaps ;) [15:28] the system they use should never have let that happen [15:28] ompaul: just very typical "design flaw" for me to see, using dark back and light colors [15:40] bazhang, srry, i was gone... I got to go now to... Sry for idoling [15:40] * m_newton is away: loligaging at the wee hours of nite; just to say hi to all and host my server. [15:40] m_newton, please /part [15:44] got sick of everyone asking... [15:44] esac still remains :) [15:45] its no nevermind to me btw [15:46] I love ppa's on a sunday - no build queues :D [15:48] * Hobbsee loves having power to reprio builds. [15:49] merh [15:54] Hobbsee: shut up... [15:54] :P [15:59] hmmmm [16:00] ompaul: "...so Canonical doesn't give back to community" interesting statement, perhaps pr etc etc isn't "giving back" ;) [16:01] Tm_T, that is GKH but I will defend canonical with the phrase lies damn lies and statistics ;-) [16:01] and note what I said there ;-) [16:02] ompaul: yup :) [17:04] Nimblefinger, Wireless is hit or miss. [17:05] meh [17:05] robg come to life again [17:05] his answer is google it for most everything. [17:10] neo_the_user was unbanned? [17:11] @btlogin [17:12] Looks like it [17:13] Not by me.. I hope.. [17:13] FYI I just buried Hardy [17:17] bazhang: is neo_the_user being troublesome? [17:18] nalioth, he quit; moderately offtopic before that though [17:19] am more concerned about CWii at this point [18:16] * Myrtti waves her plate full of mushrooms filled with Mustapekka cheese wrapped in bacon under jussi01's nose [18:18] ommmm nommmmm nommmmm [18:23] hmm [18:26] * jussi01 sadly eats his billy's pizza... [18:27] ...yea, cause I obviously wasn't hungry enough already :-P [18:27] * Nafallo /ignores IRC for a bit ;-) [18:28] LOL [18:29] at least I didn't take pictures and put them into Flickr _this_ time [18:29] * Myrtti snickers [18:32] food? [18:33] * jussi01 eats TheSheep [18:36] jussi01: the Finnish way? [18:37] huh? [18:39] Rosvopaisti [18:39] (cattle thief way of cooking meat) [18:40] no idea... [18:40] picture? [18:41] dig a hole, put rocks in the bottom, build a fire, let it burn to coals, dig some of the hot rocks out, wrap the meat into tinfoil / baking paper / wet newspaper or what ever you got, put in the hole, toss the hot rocks on top, bury with the sand, keep buried for 12 - 24 hrs [18:42] makes excellent MUTTON and chicken [18:42] :-P [18:56] Myrtti: too long a cook time... [19:00] true, but works great on also not so tender meat ;-) [19:00] * Myrtti pokes TheSheep [19:04] SeveredCross called the ops in #ubuntu () [19:05] yay for idiots... [19:05] indeed [19:05] malice is not idiotic, but evil [19:06] * jussi01 disagrees - its both [19:07] idiotic because all it gets him is a ban... [19:12] could care less about him, and he probably didn't care (malicious people are the prime ban evaders anyway) [19:12] I would expect that is [20:04] * Myrtti sighs [20:15] someone who is an -offtopic op should have a peek in there... at certain links... [20:15] * Myrtti looks [20:17] uuu I heard the best song lyric today [20:17] "every squirrel has a pearl of wisdom" [20:17] rofl PriceChild what kind of song was that? [20:18] * ompaul looks at PriceChild [20:18] it was on kerrang [20:18] should I search for that lyric [20:18] kerrrang? [20:18] oh wait sorry [20:18] "ever squirrel shares a pearl of wisdom" [20:19] TORRRREEEESSSSS [20:19] oh, sorry.... :D [20:19] jussi01: enjoying my dvb-t tuner? [20:19] * Myrtti sings to Eagles [20:19] Myrtti: nah, Im watching it on the 32" tele :D [20:19] bourgeois [20:20] but the tuner has been _fantastic_ [20:20] great that it works better for you than for me [20:20] :) [20:27] * jussi01 waits... [20:27] hmm? [20:27] see #u [20:28] jussi01, he is dead I killed him [20:28] I noticed... [20:28] repeatoffender? [20:28] ypu [20:29] jussi01, well known [20:29] ahh, understand then [21:38] :D :D :D [22:16] someone remind me how to get chanserv into a channel permanently? [22:16] jussi01: /cs help set guard [22:16] jpds: thanks :D [22:17] * jpds hugs jussi01 [22:18] * jussi01 hugs jpds back [22:18] * Myrtti takes a screenshot [22:19] * jpds hugs Myrtti quickly for the snap. [22:48] * Myrtti sighs