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| Riddell | happy happy Monday | 10:12 |
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| \sh | Riddell: happy? ok spain won..but my head is not happy today ;) | 10:33 |
| Xand3r | hi @ all | 10:49 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: are you there? | 10:49 |
| Xand3r | are you here?^^ | 10:49 |
| Riddell | hi Xand3r | 10:50 |
| Xand3r | hi Riddell i have a question, have you some time for me? | 10:51 |
| Riddell | what's the question? | 10:51 |
| Xand3r | i have a problem with the soname of a lib in my package | 10:52 |
| Xand3r | cause there is no soname | 10:52 |
| Xand3r | so how i can get one? | 10:53 |
| Riddell | I expect it means upstream doesn't want to give it one | 10:53 |
| Xand3r | ok, can i ignore that error? | 10:54 |
| Xand3r | or what have i to do? | 10:55 |
| Riddell | I expect so | 10:55 |
| Riddell | what's the library part of? | 10:55 |
| Xand3r | rubberband | 10:56 |
| Riddell | which is what? | 10:56 |
| Xand3r | maybe i dont got the question right | 10:57 |
| Riddell | what is rubberband? | 10:57 |
| smarter | hey there | 10:57 |
| Riddell | hi smarter | 10:57 |
| smarter | hey Riddell | 10:57 |
| smarter | his package is here: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=rubberband | 10:57 |
| Xand3r | for the changelog * FTBFS resolved with the patch from Gentoo | 10:59 |
| Xand3r | is that ok? | 10:59 |
| jussi01 | rabbuerband home page: http://breakfastquay.com/rubberband/ | 11:00 |
| Riddell | Xand3r: I always like to include the filename of the patch, so in future you know which one it refers to | 11:01 |
| Xand3r | ok | 11:01 |
| Xand3r | * FTBFS solved with the rubberband-1.0.1-gcc43-ftbfs.patch from Gentoo | 11:03 |
| Riddell | perfect | 11:03 |
| Riddell | Xand3r: does anything make use of that rubberband library? | 11:03 |
| Xand3r | of course | 11:04 |
| Xand3r | much of programms use rubberband for example superlooper does | 11:04 |
| Riddell | hum, that really should be versioned then | 11:05 |
| Xand3r | how? | 11:06 |
| Xand3r | i will do it | 11:06 |
| Xand3r | smarter: my new control http://paste.ubuntu.com/23920/ | 11:09 |
| Xand3r | what dou you think about | 11:09 |
| Riddell | I think you'd need to ask upsteam | 11:09 |
| Xand3r | i included now the ehing with the dot | 11:09 |
| Riddell | their automake setup seems quite basic and I don't know how to add versioning to it | 11:10 |
| Riddell | and it depends on their versioning policy anyway | 11:10 |
| smarter | Xand3r: the "Audio time-stretching and pitch-shifting program - shared library" should be on the first line of the Description, not at the end | 11:10 |
| Riddell | it might be best to just ignore the .so and only create the -dev package | 11:10 |
| smarter | Xand3r: at the end you could put something like: "This package contains the shared library" | 11:10 |
| Riddell | the /usr/bin/rubberband app doesn't seem to actually use the .so | 11:11 |
| Xand3r | dont know | 11:11 |
| Xand3r | smarter: why saying two times it is shared library? | 11:12 |
| smarter | Xand3r: the first line of the description is used in the output of apt-cache search | 11:13 |
| smarter | the other lines are used when you do apt-cache show nameofthepackage | 11:13 |
| smarter | Xand3r: try apt-cache search firefox | 11:13 |
| Xand3r | ok i will do it | 11:14 |
| Xand3r | but i have to go to the medic | 11:15 |
| Xand3r | thaks for help, i will come back soon, i hope | 11:15 |
| Xand3r | cya | 11:15 |
| smarter | bye | 11:16 |
| apachelogger | gmorning, gday, gevening, gnight | 11:38 |
| Nightrose | 'lo apachelogger :) | 11:38 |
| jpds | apachelogger: you been watcheing the Truman show? | 11:39 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 11:39 |
| apachelogger | no? | 11:39 |
| * apachelogger pokes \sh | 11:39 | |
| * \sh is not online...only his body is watching...bug brain is dead ,) | 11:40 | |
| apachelogger | meh | 11:40 |
| \sh | apachelogger: when it has something to do with leonov, please #leonov :) | 11:41 |
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| Xand3r | back from the medic | 13:13 |
| * apachelogger hands Xand3r a cookie | 13:14 | |
| Xand3r | thx | 13:14 |
| apachelogger | \sh: uscan would appreciate number-only-versions ... Newest version on remote site is 0.0.1, local version is 0.0.1a | 13:15 |
| \sh | apachelogger: uscan that brainfcked? ;) | 13:15 |
| \sh | apachelogger: i'll work on a different layout on releases.leonov.tv | 13:16 |
| apachelogger | \sh: well, just attach another diget | 13:16 |
| apachelogger | amaork also got 1.4.9.1 ;-) | 13:16 |
| Xand3r | scan is a good point, i need a copy program, only 3 things it just had to have, choos scanner choos printer, choos color and than the copy buton, is there somthing likthis | 13:17 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: what do you think about the soname problem? | 13:19 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: mail upstream | 13:19 |
| Xand3r | ok | 13:20 |
| apachelogger | wanna include r in ubuntu... blah blah.... can't because no soname/version ... blah blah .... hope you can fix it ASAP .. blah blah ... cookies! | 13:20 |
| Xand3r | have i inform him about the patch? | 13:20 |
| apachelogger | better it is | 13:21 |
| apachelogger | he could just do a new release featuring that patch and proper library versioning | 13:21 |
| Xand3r | ok | 13:22 |
| Xand3r | i have sended the mail | 13:30 |
| Xand3r | hope he answers soon | 13:30 |
| Xand3r | another problem i have installet an gtk-qt-kde4 engin but in the dayly build it seems not to work, why, apachelogger is the reason the dayly build? | 13:32 |
| apachelogger | different paths | 13:33 |
| apachelogger | you will have to compile the engine against neon | 13:33 |
| Xand3r | ok thx | 13:34 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: do you know a stupid-save copy/scan program? | 13:47 |
| apachelogger | skanlite? :P | 13:47 |
| * apachelogger only scans on vista | 13:47 | |
| Xand3r | available for hardy? | 13:47 |
| apachelogger | scanning on vista is luvly :D | 13:47 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: probably | 13:47 |
| apachelogger | otherwise... you know how to build a package ;-) | 13:48 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: .p | 13:48 |
| Xand3r | urg there is no one | 13:51 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: is sanlite a qt or an kde app | 13:56 |
| apachelogger | kde | 13:56 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: dood | 13:57 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: didn't you work on that? | 13:57 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/skanlite-kde4 | 13:57 |
| Xand3r | ooohh | 13:59 |
| Xand3r | i remember^^ | 13:59 |
| Xand3r | gosh my brain lost things i done a day befor | 13:59 |
| apachelogger | happens from time to time | 14:01 |
| Xand3r | no | 14:01 |
| Xand3r | every day | 14:01 |
| * JontheEchidna tosses Xand3r the notes plasmoid and cookies | 14:01 | |
| JontheEchidna | :P | 14:01 |
| Xand3r | thx | 14:02 |
| Xand3r | cookies are good | 14:02 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: there is a problem, the person who needs this program has kde3 | 14:03 |
| Riddell | use kooka | 14:06 |
| apachelogger | well | 14:07 |
| Riddell | works for me | 14:07 |
| apachelogger | kooka is horrible broken | 14:07 |
| Riddell | I've never had any problems from it | 14:07 |
| apachelogger | *shrug* | 14:07 |
| * apachelogger never heard a good thing about kooka from his friends | 14:08 | |
| Xand3r | Riddell: for you not for my mum, she need a program where you choos scanner, choos printer, choos color and than the copy buton, is there somthing like this? | 14:08 |
| Riddell | not that I know of | 14:09 |
| Xand3r | sad | 14:09 |
| Xand3r | if i hade knowled about a programlanguage an qt i would creat one, but i dont have | 14:10 |
| jussi01 | Xand3r: surely kooka cant be that hard - it asks which scanner on start up, you click preview, select the area/leave it for the whole thing, the click final scan | 14:18 |
| Xand3r | jussi01: i know, but people who dont work the hole day on a computer, are iritate of every sympol button and text they dont need | 14:20 |
| Xand3r | so i search a realy easy on | 14:20 |
| jussi01 | dont some of the image editors have an "acquire" ? | 14:20 |
| Xand3r | jussi01: acquire? | 14:21 |
| jussi01 | Xand3r: yes, in some image editing programs there is an acquire in the menu, where you can say from scanner, and it gives you a dialogue to scan | 14:23 |
| Xand3r | hmm i dont know, i have to teach the person using kooka | 14:23 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: kooka is realy... you know, em dou you know some one who may be could creat suche a program? | 14:41 |
| apachelogger | *shrug* | 14:51 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: mail the skanlite author(s) | 14:51 |
| apachelogger | if someone is goint to creat such an application it will be for kde4 anyway | 14:51 |
| Xand3r | hmmm, but i need a kde3 app, so i dont waste theire time | 14:53 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: has skanlite a projekt homepage? | 14:55 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: do I look like google? :P | 14:55 |
| Xand3r | maybe _p | 14:56 |
| Xand3r | .p | 14:56 |
| Xand3r | i have an hour time, what could i do? | 14:59 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: please have a look in the query | 15:00 |
| nixternal | mornin' | 15:02 |
| Xand3r | hi nixternal | 15:02 |
| nixternal | howdy | 15:06 |
| JontheEchidna | So does anybody from Kubuntu read the ubuntu-art list? | 15:06 |
| JontheEchidna | Or is there a better way to send art submissions to kubuntu? | 15:07 |
| JontheEchidna | http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c355/Woremar/oxyconnex-06.jpg | 15:08 |
| JontheEchidna | http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c355/Woremar/oxyconnex2.png | 15:08 |
| JontheEchidna | http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Oxygen+Connections?content=84047 | 15:10 |
| Riddell | we're not really looking for submissions for intrepid since the plan is to go with KDE's artwork | 15:12 |
| JontheEchidna | Ok, the default theme is nice anyway. :) | 15:12 |
| Arby | Riddell: around? | 15:19 |
| Arby | Riddell: I'm back to trying to sort out kdepim-dev | 15:19 |
| Riddell | hi Arby | 15:20 |
| Arby | having rebuilt my broken chroot | 15:20 |
| Arby | I'm getting blocked on uninstallable dependencies | 15:20 |
| Arby | specifically mysql-server-5.0 | 15:20 |
| Arby | which stops akonadi from installing | 15:20 |
| Riddell | what's uninstallable about it? | 15:21 |
| Arby | hang on let me pastebin the output | 15:21 |
| Arby | Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23968/ | 15:23 |
| Arby | basically the initscript fails for an unknown reason | 15:24 |
| Riddell | rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/mysql-server-5.0.postinst | 15:24 |
| Arby | success! | 15:24 |
| Arby | thanks | 15:24 |
| Arby | that just leaves kdelibs5-dev | 15:25 |
| Arby | which eventually goes back to | 15:25 |
| Arby | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 15:25 |
| Arby | libgnutls-dev: Depends: libgnutls13 (= 2.0.4-1ubuntu2) but 2.0.4-1ubuntu2.1 is to be installed | 15:25 |
| Arby | after much dependency chasing | 15:25 |
| Arby | it looks like that should be '>=' rather than just '>' | 15:26 |
| Arby | what can I do other than rebuild libgnutls13 ? | 15:27 |
| Riddell | Arby: are you on amd64? | 15:28 |
| Arby | no | 15:28 |
| Arby | hmm, I think remove and reinstall has fixed it | 15:32 |
| Arby | waiting for stuff to finish installing | 15:32 |
| * Arby commences building kdepim. back in 3 days | 15:47 | |
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| apachelogger | jussi01: can you please testbuild quassel on gutsy and feisty for bug 243890 | 17:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 243890 in quassel "create packages for gutsy and feisty" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/243890 | 17:17 |
| james_w | apachelogger: hi, are you around? | 18:02 |
| apachelogger | hey james_w | 18:04 |
| james_w | hey | 18:04 |
| james_w | I'm looking at the amarok packaging, would you have a minute for a couple of questions? | 18:05 |
| apachelogger | sure | 18:05 |
| james_w | I'm looking at the diff to Debian, and there's a few things that I can't work out, and that aren't explicitly documented. | 18:06 |
| james_w | firstly the addition of python, python-qt3 and libqt0-ruby1.8 to Suggests. | 18:06 |
| apachelogger | necessary for the stock amarok scripts | 18:07 |
| james_w | so they would be applicable to Debian? | 18:08 |
| apachelogger | totally | 18:08 |
| james_w | cool, the next is "- - Track "mood" display (requires moodbar package installed)" | 18:08 |
| james_w | from the description, the package is still suggested, so it seems that it's not that support has gone away, was it perhaps just a mistake during a merge that the line was removed? | 18:09 |
| apachelogger | !info moodbar | 18:09 |
| apachelogger | james_w: one moment please | 18:09 |
| ubott2 | moodbar (source: moodbar): Analysis program for creating a colorful visual representation of an audio file. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.1.2-2ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 34 kB, installed size 168 kB | 18:10 |
| apachelogger | james_w: yes, merge mistake | 18:10 |
| james_w | cool, would you like a bug report for that? | 18:10 |
| apachelogger | not necessary, I just fixed it | 18:12 |
| james_w | great, thanks. | 18:13 |
| james_w | the last is the addition of the amarok-engine virtual package, is there another engine that the user may wish to install from elsewhere? | 18:13 |
| apachelogger | actually I think that can be dropped | 18:15 |
| apachelogger | wanted to hear some opinions on that, IMO a virtual package is pretty much pointless for the engines | 18:16 |
| apachelogger | since we need to require on specific -engine- packages, as the ABI tends to break for most releases | 18:17 |
| apachelogger | that said, the engines will disappear in amarok2 anyway, so... | 18:17 |
| james_w | actually I just found another little one. It seems from http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=308099 that symlinking amarokapp is not necessary any more. | 18:20 |
| ubott2 | Debian bug 308099 in amarok "amarokapp doesn't belong into /usr/lib/amarok" [Important,Closed] | 18:20 |
| apachelogger | james_w: don't know about that one | 18:22 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: do you know why we link usr/bin/amarok to usr/lib/amarok/amarokapp? | 18:23 |
| james_w | from the changelog "Closes bugs #16474, #52360." | 18:23 |
| james_w | one of those mentions that Debian bug (or rather its duplicate) | 18:24 |
| james_w | and also one on bugs.kde.org. | 18:24 |
| ubott2 | james_w: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/16474/+text) | 18:24 |
| ubott2 | james_w: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The connect operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/52360/+text) | 18:24 |
| jussio1 | wha? | 18:24 |
| jussio1 | hrm | 18:24 |
| apachelogger | james_w: well I imagine we link due to compability reasons | 18:25 |
| apachelogger | amarokapp was literally placed in usr/lib/amarok/ | 18:25 |
| apachelogger | while now it is in bin and we link to lib | 18:25 |
| apachelogger | I don't see a usecase though ;-) | 18:25 |
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| milian-laptop | stdin: apachelogger told me that I should get in contact with you. I noticed that some KDE 4.1 packages (i.e. step-kde4) don't really include anything | 19:59 |
| milian-laptop | a dpkg -L yields only README, debian changelog and license | 19:59 |
| milian-laptop | all in /usr/share/doc/step-kde4 | 19:59 |
| milian-laptop | that's it | 19:59 |
| stdin | milian-laptop: I probably messed something up, give me a min | 20:07 |
| milian-laptop | yes of course | 20:07 |
| milian-laptop | shall I check which packages are affected? | 20:07 |
| stdin | probably all of kdeedu | 20:07 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: we don't link usr/bin/amarok to usr/lib/amarok/amarokapp | 20:17 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: ah, we link /usr/lib/amarok/amarokapp to usr/bin/amarok | 20:18 |
| Riddell | which is probably just historical | 20:18 |
| apachelogger | ln -s /usr/bin/amarokapp debian/amarok/usr/lib/amarok/amarokapp | 20:18 |
| stdin | milian-laptop: ~ppa4 should fix it, probably published in around 40 mins | 20:25 |
| milian-laptop | ty stdin | 20:26 |
| milian-laptop | stdin: http://pastebin.com/m132da22e <-- this is a list of all the packages I have installed, which end on -kde4 and which do not have a binary with of that name (without trailing -kde4) | 20:30 |
| milian-laptop | there are some false positives in there | 20:30 |
| milian-laptop | i.e. meta packages | 20:30 |
| milian-laptop | maybe this is really only kdeedu - but I wanted to make sure | 20:31 |
| Arby | Riddell: finally got kdepim-dev sorted | 20:53 |
| Arby | everything builds properly | 20:53 |
| Arby | and the package is installable | 20:54 |
| Arby | given a bit of dependency chasing | 20:54 |
| Arby | files are in the usual place | 20:54 |
| Arby | my only concern is that I had to install libkdepim4 manually to keep shlibs happy | 20:55 |
| Arby | does that matter? | 20:55 |
| Riddell | that should be fine | 20:57 |
| Arby | good | 20:57 |
| Arby | Riddell: kopete-crypto done now as well. | 21:06 |
| Arby | Riddell: did anything else in extragear get done? | 21:07 |
| Arby | or can I just carry on at will | 21:07 |
| Riddell | Arby: done are kcoloredit kfax kgrab kgraphviewer kiconedit kio-gopher kmldonkey | 21:21 |
| Arby | ok I'll carry on with the rest then | 21:21 |
| Riddell | Arby: ah, we also have http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=skanlite | 21:23 |
| Arby | good, that's one less for me to do :) | 21:24 |
| Arby | Riddell: kpovmodeler done | 21:29 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: Anything else before I ask Chris to redirect the DNS? | 21:35 |
| Arby | Riddell: trying to merge kphotoalbum but blocked on a build-dep | 21:49 |
| Arby | Riddell: kphotoalbum build-deps on libkexif1-dev but | 21:49 |
| Arby | libkexif1-dev: Depends: kdelibs4-dev but it is not going to be installed | 21:49 |
| Arby | we already have kdelibs5-dev | 21:50 |
| Arby | and the two seem to be mutually exclusive | 21:50 |
| Arby | do we need to update libkexif1-dev? | 21:50 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: nevermind, I found something | 21:51 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: found something? what you updated to the current articles? | 21:58 |
| Riddell | Arby: mm, I need to ponder what to do about those libraries | 21:59 |
| Riddell | there's new versions and they overlap somewhat | 21:59 |
| Arby | Riddell: ok, no rush | 21:59 |
| Arby | just let me know when we have a solution (or if you want me to package one) | 22:00 |
| Arby | I can work on something else in the meantime | 22:00 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: user uploaded images don't show up if you aren't logged in. | 22:01 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: how hard can it be to set up this website? | 22:20 |
| Riddell | (rhetorical) | 22:20 |
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| vorian | o/ hello everyone :) | 23:07 |
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| apachelogger | hey vorian | 23:17 |
| vorian | how are things? | 23:17 |
| apachelogger | Kayish, I'd say ;-) | 23:19 |
| apachelogger | vorian: when are you applying for MOTU? | 23:19 |
| vorian | apachelogger: mmmm, maybe after a few more uploads | 23:19 |
| apachelogger | hm | 23:20 |
| apachelogger | vorian: you could write an MIR ;-) | 23:20 |
| vorian | what's MIR? | 23:20 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I guess you didn't file one for libqca2-plugin-ossl yet | 23:20 |
| apachelogger | vorian: main inclusion report | 23:20 |
| apachelogger | vorian: necessary to get a package into main | 23:20 |
| vorian | hahaa | 23:20 |
| apachelogger | vorian: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionProcess | 23:21 |
| vorian | i was just about to say /me looks :D | 23:21 |
| vorian | these are for each of the main KDE packages? | 23:22 |
| apachelogger | vorian: pardon? | 23:22 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: what's that for? | 23:23 |
| vorian | apachelogger: i was wondering which package I should write a MIR for :) | 23:23 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: ssl jabber | 23:23 |
| apachelogger | the new version of libqca-tsl | 23:23 |
| apachelogger | tls | 23:23 |
| apachelogger | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportQCATLS?highlight=%28qca%29 | 23:24 |
| apachelogger | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qca2-plugin-ossl | 23:24 |
| apachelogger | vorian: the last url | 23:24 |
| vorian | i see | 23:24 |
| apachelogger | actually -tls can be moved to universe http://paste.ubuntu.com/24094/ | 23:26 |
| apachelogger | no main dependencies anymore | 23:26 |
| apachelogger | oh boy, I choose disconnected imap | 23:28 |
| * apachelogger headdesks | 23:28 | |
| vorian | :( | 23:29 |
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