=== Czessi__ is now known as Czessi [10:12] happy happy Monday [10:33] <\sh> Riddell: happy? ok spain won..but my head is not happy today ;) [10:49] hi @ all [10:49] apachelogger: are you there? [10:49] are you here?^^ [10:50] hi Xand3r [10:51] hi Riddell i have a question, have you some time for me? [10:51] what's the question? [10:52] i have a problem with the soname of a lib in my package [10:52] cause there is no soname [10:53] so how i can get one? [10:53] I expect it means upstream doesn't want to give it one [10:54] ok, can i ignore that error? [10:55] or what have i to do? [10:55] I expect so [10:55] what's the library part of? [10:56] rubberband [10:56] which is what? [10:57] maybe i dont got the question right [10:57] what is rubberband? [10:57] hey there [10:57] hi smarter [10:57] hey Riddell [10:57] his package is here: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=rubberband [10:59] for the changelog * FTBFS resolved with the patch from Gentoo [10:59] is that ok? [11:00] rabbuerband home page: http://breakfastquay.com/rubberband/ [11:01] Xand3r: I always like to include the filename of the patch, so in future you know which one it refers to [11:01] ok [11:03] * FTBFS solved with the rubberband-1.0.1-gcc43-ftbfs.patch from Gentoo [11:03] perfect [11:03] Xand3r: does anything make use of that rubberband library? [11:04] of course [11:04] much of programms use rubberband for example superlooper does [11:05] hum, that really should be versioned then [11:06] how? [11:06] i will do it [11:09] smarter: my new control http://paste.ubuntu.com/23920/ [11:09] what dou you think about [11:09] I think you'd need to ask upsteam [11:09] i included now the ehing with the dot [11:10] their automake setup seems quite basic and I don't know how to add versioning to it [11:10] and it depends on their versioning policy anyway [11:10] Xand3r: the "Audio time-stretching and pitch-shifting program - shared library" should be on the first line of the Description, not at the end [11:10] it might be best to just ignore the .so and only create the -dev package [11:10] Xand3r: at the end you could put something like: "This package contains the shared library" [11:11] the /usr/bin/rubberband app doesn't seem to actually use the .so [11:11] dont know [11:12] smarter: why saying two times it is shared library? [11:13] Xand3r: the first line of the description is used in the output of apt-cache search [11:13] the other lines are used when you do apt-cache show nameofthepackage [11:13] Xand3r: try apt-cache search firefox [11:14] ok i will do it [11:15] but i have to go to the medic [11:15] thaks for help, i will come back soon, i hope [11:15] cya [11:16] bye [11:38] gmorning, gday, gevening, gnight [11:38] 'lo apachelogger :) [11:39] apachelogger: you been watcheing the Truman show? [11:39] Oo [11:39] no? [11:39] * apachelogger pokes \sh [11:40] * \sh is not online...only his body is watching...bug brain is dead ,) [11:40] meh [11:41] <\sh> apachelogger: when it has something to do with leonov, please #leonov :) === bdgraue__ is now known as bdgraue === bdgraue is now known as bdgraue_ === bdgraue_ is now known as bdgraue__ === bdgraue__ is now known as bdgraue [13:13] back from the medic [13:14] * apachelogger hands Xand3r a cookie [13:14] thx [13:15] \sh: uscan would appreciate number-only-versions ... Newest version on remote site is 0.0.1, local version is 0.0.1a [13:15] <\sh> apachelogger: uscan that brainfcked? ;) [13:16] <\sh> apachelogger: i'll work on a different layout on releases.leonov.tv [13:16] \sh: well, just attach another diget [13:16] amaork also got 1.4.9.1 ;-) [13:17] scan is a good point, i need a copy program, only 3 things it just had to have, choos scanner choos printer, choos color and than the copy buton, is there somthing likthis [13:19] apachelogger: what do you think about the soname problem? [13:19] Xand3r: mail upstream [13:20] ok [13:20] wanna include r in ubuntu... blah blah.... can't because no soname/version ... blah blah .... hope you can fix it ASAP .. blah blah ... cookies! [13:20] have i inform him about the patch? [13:21] better it is [13:21] he could just do a new release featuring that patch and proper library versioning [13:22] ok [13:30] i have sended the mail [13:30] hope he answers soon [13:32] another problem i have installet an gtk-qt-kde4 engin but in the dayly build it seems not to work, why, apachelogger is the reason the dayly build? [13:33] different paths [13:33] you will have to compile the engine against neon [13:34] ok thx [13:47] apachelogger: do you know a stupid-save copy/scan program? [13:47] skanlite? :P [13:47] * apachelogger only scans on vista [13:47] available for hardy? [13:47] scanning on vista is luvly :D [13:47] Xand3r: probably [13:48] otherwise... you know how to build a package ;-) [13:48] apachelogger: .p [13:51] urg there is no one [13:56] apachelogger: is sanlite a qt or an kde app [13:56] kde [13:57] Xand3r: dood [13:57] Xand3r: didn't you work on that? [13:57] Xand3r: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/skanlite-kde4 [13:59] ooohh [13:59] i remember^^ [13:59] gosh my brain lost things i done a day befor [14:01] happens from time to time [14:01] no [14:01] every day [14:01] * JontheEchidna tosses Xand3r the notes plasmoid and cookies [14:01] :P [14:02] thx [14:02] cookies are good [14:03] apachelogger: there is a problem, the person who needs this program has kde3 [14:06] use kooka [14:07] well [14:07] works for me [14:07] kooka is horrible broken [14:07] I've never had any problems from it [14:07] *shrug* [14:08] * apachelogger never heard a good thing about kooka from his friends [14:08] Riddell: for you not for my mum, she need a program where you choos scanner, choos printer, choos color and than the copy buton, is there somthing like this? [14:09] not that I know of [14:09] sad [14:10] if i hade knowled about a programlanguage an qt i would creat one, but i dont have [14:18] Xand3r: surely kooka cant be that hard - it asks which scanner on start up, you click preview, select the area/leave it for the whole thing, the click final scan [14:20] jussi01: i know, but people who dont work the hole day on a computer, are iritate of every sympol button and text they dont need [14:20] so i search a realy easy on [14:20] dont some of the image editors have an "acquire" ? [14:21] jussi01: acquire? [14:23] Xand3r: yes, in some image editing programs there is an acquire in the menu, where you can say from scanner, and it gives you a dialogue to scan [14:23] hmm i dont know, i have to teach the person using kooka [14:41] apachelogger: kooka is realy... you know, em dou you know some one who may be could creat suche a program? [14:51] *shrug* [14:51] Xand3r: mail the skanlite author(s) [14:51] if someone is goint to creat such an application it will be for kde4 anyway [14:53] hmmm, but i need a kde3 app, so i dont waste theire time [14:55] apachelogger: has skanlite a projekt homepage? [14:55] Xand3r: do I look like google? :P [14:56] maybe _p [14:56] .p [14:59] i have an hour time, what could i do? [15:00] apachelogger: please have a look in the query [15:02] mornin' [15:02] hi nixternal [15:06] howdy [15:06] So does anybody from Kubuntu read the ubuntu-art list? [15:07] Or is there a better way to send art submissions to kubuntu? [15:08] http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c355/Woremar/oxyconnex-06.jpg [15:08] http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c355/Woremar/oxyconnex2.png [15:10] http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Oxygen+Connections?content=84047 [15:12] we're not really looking for submissions for intrepid since the plan is to go with KDE's artwork [15:12] Ok, the default theme is nice anyway. :) [15:19] Riddell: around? [15:19] Riddell: I'm back to trying to sort out kdepim-dev [15:20] hi Arby [15:20] having rebuilt my broken chroot [15:20] I'm getting blocked on uninstallable dependencies [15:20] specifically mysql-server-5.0 [15:20] which stops akonadi from installing [15:21] what's uninstallable about it? [15:21] hang on let me pastebin the output [15:23] Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23968/ [15:24] basically the initscript fails for an unknown reason [15:24] rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/mysql-server-5.0.postinst [15:24] success! [15:24] thanks [15:25] that just leaves kdelibs5-dev [15:25] which eventually goes back to [15:25] The following packages have unmet dependencies: [15:25] libgnutls-dev: Depends: libgnutls13 (= 2.0.4-1ubuntu2) but 2.0.4-1ubuntu2.1 is to be installed [15:25] after much dependency chasing [15:26] it looks like that should be '>=' rather than just '>' [15:27] what can I do other than rebuild libgnutls13 ? [15:28] Arby: are you on amd64? [15:28] no [15:32] hmm, I think remove and reinstall has fixed it [15:32] waiting for stuff to finish installing [15:47] * Arby commences building kdepim. back in 3 days === pgquiles_ is now known as pgquiles === cmvo_ is now known as cmvo [17:17] jussi01: can you please testbuild quassel on gutsy and feisty for bug 243890 [17:17] Launchpad bug 243890 in quassel "create packages for gutsy and feisty" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/243890 [18:02] apachelogger: hi, are you around? [18:04] hey james_w [18:04] hey [18:05] I'm looking at the amarok packaging, would you have a minute for a couple of questions? [18:05] sure [18:06] I'm looking at the diff to Debian, and there's a few things that I can't work out, and that aren't explicitly documented. [18:06] firstly the addition of python, python-qt3 and libqt0-ruby1.8 to Suggests. [18:07] necessary for the stock amarok scripts [18:08] so they would be applicable to Debian? [18:08] totally [18:08] cool, the next is "- - Track "mood" display (requires moodbar package installed)" [18:09] from the description, the package is still suggested, so it seems that it's not that support has gone away, was it perhaps just a mistake during a merge that the line was removed? [18:09] !info moodbar [18:09] james_w: one moment please [18:10] moodbar (source: moodbar): Analysis program for creating a colorful visual representation of an audio file. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.1.2-2ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 34 kB, installed size 168 kB [18:10] james_w: yes, merge mistake [18:10] cool, would you like a bug report for that? [18:12] not necessary, I just fixed it [18:13] great, thanks. [18:13] the last is the addition of the amarok-engine virtual package, is there another engine that the user may wish to install from elsewhere? [18:15] actually I think that can be dropped [18:16] wanted to hear some opinions on that, IMO a virtual package is pretty much pointless for the engines [18:17] since we need to require on specific -engine- packages, as the ABI tends to break for most releases [18:17] that said, the engines will disappear in amarok2 anyway, so... [18:20] actually I just found another little one. It seems from http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=308099 that symlinking amarokapp is not necessary any more. [18:20] Debian bug 308099 in amarok "amarokapp doesn't belong into /usr/lib/amarok" [Important,Closed] [18:22] james_w: don't know about that one [18:23] Riddell: do you know why we link usr/bin/amarok to usr/lib/amarok/amarokapp? [18:23] from the changelog "Closes bugs #16474, #52360." [18:24] one of those mentions that Debian bug (or rather its duplicate) [18:24] and also one on bugs.kde.org. [18:24] james_w: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/16474/+text) [18:24] james_w: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The connect operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/52360/+text) [18:24] wha? [18:24] hrm [18:25] james_w: well I imagine we link due to compability reasons [18:25] amarokapp was literally placed in usr/lib/amarok/ [18:25] while now it is in bin and we link to lib [18:25] I don't see a usecase though ;-) === smarter_ is now known as smarter [19:59] stdin: apachelogger told me that I should get in contact with you. I noticed that some KDE 4.1 packages (i.e. step-kde4) don't really include anything [19:59] a dpkg -L yields only README, debian changelog and license [19:59] all in /usr/share/doc/step-kde4 [19:59] that's it [20:07] milian-laptop: I probably messed something up, give me a min [20:07] yes of course [20:07] shall I check which packages are affected? [20:07] probably all of kdeedu [20:17] apachelogger: we don't link usr/bin/amarok to usr/lib/amarok/amarokapp [20:18] apachelogger: ah, we link /usr/lib/amarok/amarokapp to usr/bin/amarok [20:18] which is probably just historical [20:18] ln -s /usr/bin/amarokapp debian/amarok/usr/lib/amarok/amarokapp [20:25] milian-laptop: ~ppa4 should fix it, probably published in around 40 mins [20:26] ty stdin [20:30] stdin: http://pastebin.com/m132da22e <-- this is a list of all the packages I have installed, which end on -kde4 and which do not have a binary with of that name (without trailing -kde4) [20:30] there are some false positives in there [20:30] i.e. meta packages [20:31] maybe this is really only kdeedu - but I wanted to make sure [20:53] Riddell: finally got kdepim-dev sorted [20:53] everything builds properly [20:54] and the package is installable [20:54] given a bit of dependency chasing [20:54] files are in the usual place [20:55] my only concern is that I had to install libkdepim4 manually to keep shlibs happy [20:55] does that matter? [20:57] that should be fine [20:57] good [21:06] Riddell: kopete-crypto done now as well. [21:07] Riddell: did anything else in extragear get done? [21:07] or can I just carry on at will [21:21] Arby: done are kcoloredit kfax kgrab kgraphviewer kiconedit kio-gopher kmldonkey [21:21] ok I'll carry on with the rest then [21:23] Arby: ah, we also have http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=skanlite [21:24] good, that's one less for me to do :) [21:29] Riddell: kpovmodeler done [21:35] Riddell: Anything else before I ask Chris to redirect the DNS? [21:49] Riddell: trying to merge kphotoalbum but blocked on a build-dep [21:49] Riddell: kphotoalbum build-deps on libkexif1-dev but [21:49] libkexif1-dev: Depends: kdelibs4-dev but it is not going to be installed [21:50] we already have kdelibs5-dev [21:50] and the two seem to be mutually exclusive [21:50] do we need to update libkexif1-dev? [21:51] Riddell: nevermind, I found something [21:58] ryanakca: found something? what you updated to the current articles? [21:59] Arby: mm, I need to ponder what to do about those libraries [21:59] there's new versions and they overlap somewhat [21:59] Riddell: ok, no rush [22:00] just let me know when we have a solution (or if you want me to package one) [22:00] I can work on something else in the meantime [22:01] Riddell: user uploaded images don't show up if you aren't logged in. [22:20] ryanakca: how hard can it be to set up this website? [22:20] (rhetorical) === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak [23:07] o/ hello everyone :) === teprrrr is now known as teprrr [23:17] hey vorian [23:17] how are things? [23:19] Kayish, I'd say ;-) [23:19] vorian: when are you applying for MOTU? [23:19] apachelogger: mmmm, maybe after a few more uploads [23:20] hm [23:20] vorian: you could write an MIR ;-) [23:20] what's MIR? [23:20] Riddell: I guess you didn't file one for libqca2-plugin-ossl yet [23:20] vorian: main inclusion report [23:20] vorian: necessary to get a package into main [23:20] hahaa [23:21] vorian: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionProcess [23:21] i was just about to say /me looks :D [23:22] these are for each of the main KDE packages? [23:22] vorian: pardon? [23:23] apachelogger: what's that for? [23:23] apachelogger: i was wondering which package I should write a MIR for :) [23:23] Riddell: ssl jabber [23:23] the new version of libqca-tsl [23:23] tls [23:24] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportQCATLS?highlight=%28qca%29 [23:24] https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qca2-plugin-ossl [23:24] vorian: the last url [23:24] i see [23:26] actually -tls can be moved to universe http://paste.ubuntu.com/24094/ [23:26] no main dependencies anymore [23:28] oh boy, I choose disconnected imap [23:28] * apachelogger headdesks [23:29] :(