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RAOFSo, I'd like to contact a dude on launchpad who hasn't published a contact email.  Is there any way I can get in touch with him?07:16
wgrantRAOF: No.07:17
wgrantWell, you could abuse Launchpad and file a bug and subscribe him, but that's not right.07:18
RAOFThat's awkward.  Darn him.07:18
wgrants/him/Launchpad for not providing such a feature/07:19
persiaRAOF: You could use the information LP presents to find them.  Typically there's enough information for someone who is active to feed Google and get ICBM coordinates.07:19
wgrantpersia: That sort of person generally exposes their contact address.07:22
persiawgrant: You'd be surprised.  I used the ICBM-tracking algorithm to contact my roommate for UDS in May.07:23
RAOFYeah.  I've found the guy's website, where he's selling some software.  But does'nt have a contact address there, anyway.07:23
persiaRAOF: And the domain name?  How about customer service desk at the ISP?07:24
RAOFAh!  There's a support option, which has some email-like thing.07:25
RAOFThat'll do for now.07:25
wgrantTheMuso: Ow.07:25
wgrantECHAN07:25
mdkewho has been working on the Moin <-> launchpad open id login stuff? someone in #ubuntu-doc reported an issue and I'd like to refer it on07:43
mptGoooooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!08:00
Hobbseehey there mpt!08:01
mpthey hey08:01
mdkemorning mpt08:01
wgrantOh no!08:01
mpt?08:01
wgrantIt's an mpt.08:02
mptsorry08:03
\shgood yawning^Wmorning 08:04
emgentbarry: can you active herd-devel mailinglist?10:39
rzrhi11:14
rzrthere is a problem with some upstream author https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95670 , some post must be edited , is it possible ? and how11:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 95670 in debian "[needs-packaging] Jabbin" [Unknown,Fix released] 11:15
beunorzr, it's probably best to open a question in: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad asking to remove/edit it11:17
wgrantrzr: They're hidden from anonymous users anyway.11:18
rzrwgrant: yes we told him, but he doesnt care11:18
wgrantrzr: Well, he probably has larger problems. But there appear to be no LP people around at the moment, so beuno's solution is correct.11:19
persiaThe person/group whose email address was exposed is unhappy.  Opening a question is the best solution.  That said, the email is available to any bug subscribers, or the general bugmail archives, so I'm unsure how it helps remove it from the page.11:19
wgrantOh yes, what a 'mess' it is.11:20
wgrantTerrible to have one's email address exposed on the Internet.11:20
beunois it possible not to, and work on open source at the same time?  :)11:20
rzrwell i have an idea11:20
wgrantbeuno: Some people have this strange idea.11:21
rzrany email registered in LP, can set its level of disclosure11:21
wgrantHow is one to be contacted if one does not expose one's email address?11:21
rzrby default, hidden11:21
wgrantrzr: That is how it is now.11:21
rzrwgrant: then all unknown emails but be hidden, and use a form to email them ?11:22
rzrs/but/must/11:22
wgrantThat's going to annoy people more than anything.11:22
wgrantI don't want to use some awful web form to contact people.11:23
wgrantEmail exists for a reason.11:23
persiaAlso, "hidden" email addresses are exposed as soon as one commits any reportable action on LP.11:23
* rzr think that revealing unverified email is a privacy attempt 11:23
wgrantpersia: There are bugs on this.11:23
wgrantrzr: Where are such addresses revealed?11:23
rzrin that jabbin bug ... actually I dont care for myself but I understand the victim :)11:24
wgrantHow could it be verified?11:25
rzrsending an invitation to register to LP11:25
rzrthis sound like virtal marketting too11:25
wgrantThe address is associated with his account...11:27
rzrI dont think he has an account11:27
rzrsomeone just pasted his email11:27
rzrif he register , would he has the option to hide his address occurence in all LP contents ?11:27
wgrantEr, he definitely has registered.11:28
wgrantBecause it was a reply to a comment.11:28
rzryou're right11:30
rzrwell thx guys I hope the guy will follow the suggestion I posted about adding a question in LP11:37
huatsmrevell: hey are you around ?13:01
mrevellhi huats13:01
huatshey mrevell how are you ?13:01
mrevellhuats: I'm great thanks, how are you?13:03
huatsgreat too13:03
huatsmrevell: I have a question on LP13:03
mrevellhuats: How can I help?13:04
huatsi am part of the mentor reception team13:04
huatsand we'd like to know if it is possible to have a mailing list, for our exchange13:04
mrevellhuats: If you have a team in Launchpad, you can certainly request a mailing list for that team. Take a look at https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp13:07
huatsmrevell: great13:07
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dnearyHi14:41
dnearyAnyone know what software brainstorm.ubuntu.com is running?14:41
jpdsdneary: Druapl with custom plugins14:43
jpdsdneary: Try asking in #ubuntu-testing. The admins hangg out there.14:44
dnearyjpds: Thanks! Are they free software?14:44
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Gioacchinohy all!18:02
GioacchinoI am new  regestered on launchpad18:02
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steveireHi. Does launchpad offer a patch review feature?19:33
steveireSomething for annotating patches before they get committed19:33
beunosteveire, you could use code browse if the full branch is pushed19:34
beunoit's not ideal, but it may do what you need19:34
steveirebeuno: I'm thinking more of something like review-board.org.19:35
beunosteveire, ah, well, not yet. But code review is actively worked on, so that feature will probably land sooner or later19:36
steveirebeuno: OK cheers. Do you know of any blogs about that, or anything I can see?19:36
beunosteveire, well, planet ubuntu and Launchpad news is probably the best places to look. And, well, IRC for inside scoops  :)19:38
steveireWhat about commit review? Does launchpad offer filtering by project/developer/version etc 19:38
kikosteveire, pre-commit or post-commit?19:38
steveirekiko: I'm interested in both19:39
kikosteveire, it's yes to both, though the mechanisms and depth are different19:40
steveirekiko: Can you point me at some urls so that I can see it or a document?19:40
kikosteveire, I'm in the middle of a meeting, but perhaps Rinchen or abentley can help you19:41
steveireMy interest by the way, is investigating whether certain aspects of software engineering in kde can be done through launchpad. I'm currently compiling a list of all the different tools we currently use, and alternatives that are available.19:42
steveirekiko: OK19:42
beunosteveire, that may be well worth discussing on a mailing list, where you can get a broader audience to answer your questions19:42
abentleysteveire: Our code review feature presumes you use Bazaar.19:42
steveireYes, I do intend to discuss it on a mailing list, but I want to have a start on what is available out there.19:43
beunothen abentley is your man  :)19:43
steveireabentley: Hi.19:43
abentleysteveire: Hi.19:43
steveireabentley: Can you show me a link or anything to code review in launchpad?19:44
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abentleysteveire: It's a new feature, and I'm not sure who's using it at the moment.19:46
steveireabentley: OK, cheers19:46
beunowell, I am  :)19:47
beunosteveire, what it currently lacks is being able to look at the specific code to be reviewed19:47
abentleysteveire: Here's an example someone did: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~thumper/pqm/test-bzr-home/+merge/29619:47
beunobut you can do that with a few workarounds, and I think abentley is actively working to make that easier19:47
beunoI wonder if there's any documentation on this yet...19:48
steveirebeuno: Is that what you're using too?19:51
steveireSo that shows branches to be merged, but no diff?19:52
beunosteveire, right19:53
beunoalthough you can cheat19:53
beunoand see the revisions missing19:53
beunoand use 19:53
beuno"code browse" to give you the diff19:54
beunoand you can see the actual code change19:54
beunowhen we're happy with our work, we upload the branch based off trunk, and apply for a merge request19:54
beunoother members review it until they're happy with it19:54
beunoand approve the merge19:55
beunothe workflow is missing a few pieces, but I think they'll be in place soon enough19:55
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armine42hi20:45
armine42mmh.. I just start with launchpad and bazaar20:46
armine42I have a little problem20:46
armine42I can send my modified source code and when I browse source using firefox it works20:46
armine42but on the main branch page20:46
armine42It doesn't says that I sent new revision20:47
armine42altough I use commit -m "revision changes..."20:47
beunoarmine42, is this a new project?20:50
beunodid you start the branch?20:50
armine42yes20:50
armine42I started the branch and the only revision notification that appears under "recent revisions"20:50
armine42is my first commit notification, done before creating the branch20:50
beunoso, did you do "bzr push" after you committed?20:50
armine42Yes I did20:50
armine42The source code is has been updats20:51
armine42updated20:51
beunoarmine42, well, sometimes it takes a bit for LP to scan the new commits20:51
armine42But under "recent revisions" there isn't any notifications that shows my commit20:51
beunowhat's the URL?20:51
armine42https://code.launchpad.net/~armine42/labyrinth2000/main20:51
armine42ok20:52
armine42It works20:52
armine42it took 30 minutes20:52
armine42thank you :)20:52
beunoarmine42, :)20:52
armine42(I wait 30 minutes and just when I come to ask question it appears :) )20:52
beunoarmine42, it *always* happens that way20:53
armine42:-)20:53
beunocomputers have fun with people all the time!20:53
armine42I guess20:53
armine42Oh and another question (now I'm on the chat I can ask :p )20:54
armine42If I use my private key on other computer, launchpad won't tell me it is impossible?20:54
armine42I mean maybe there is a security or what...20:55
armine42because I use one computer at home and the other at work, so I guess I have to use same key on both20:55
beunoyou can use your private key from wherever you want, but I'd recommend having a different one per computer20:55
beunoyou can upload multiple  :)20:55
armine42O.K20:55
armine42Thank you :)20:55
beunoyour welcome20:55
armine42I think I'll do that :)20:56
armine42Thank you beuno ! and good evening ! (or whatever it is where you are :) )20:56
beunoarmine42, evening works, thanks, you too20:57
armine42:) bye20:57
qballhmm can somebody tell me how the translation part of launchpad works?21:31
vadi2where may I find a listing of all available ppas? I can't seem to find the link again22:13
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steveireDoes rosetta process gettext files internally?22:20
qballhmm if I have a locally update .pot file, and I upload it to launchpad again, do changes on survive?22:25
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qball?22:37
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mptqball and steveire, unfortunately the Translations people are (I think) asleep22:37
mptthey're danilo_ and jtv22:38
mptThey should be back 12 hours from now, probably earlier22:38
qballaah.. thanks22:38
qball10 hours.. hmm then I am working22:38
steveirempt: Cheers.22:38
qballeueh 1222:38
qballwell I was looking for a howto, but I kinda hit nothing..  22:39
mptvadi2, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas -- and it will become much easier to find in a few hours :-)22:39
vadi2mpt: those are *all* ppas right, not just ubuntu ones?22:39
mptqball, ah, perhaps <https://help.launchpad.net/FeatureHighlights/SoftwareTranslation> is useful?22:40
mptqball, we have someone busy writing guides to each of the Launchpad apps, they should be ready in a few weeks22:40
steveirebeuno, abentley: I've put my first iteration of KDEs software engineering tools and processes up: http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Software_Engineering_Framework. Personally I think consolidation of all the different sites/tools used is a good idea, so I'll put some proposal to the kde people about migrating some of it to launchpad22:40
qballcool. I'll look22:40
mptvadi2, I think Launchpad does PPAs only for Ubuntu so far22:40
vadi2right, for ubuntu22:41
vadi2ok cool thanks :)22:41
vadi2bookmarking the link meanwhile22:41
mptsteveire, about code review, come back tomorrow ;-)22:41
steveireI think bug tracking wishlists and translation in particular would be useful for kde on launchpad. Is it possible to use only a subset of features and still have a project hosted on launchpad? I think kde will lean more towards git than bzr, so there would be no interest in that22:43
steveireAnyone? Is the above possible? Does launchpad allow for a project to only use the launchpad bug tracker, not the rest of the features?23:10
LarstiQsteveire: yes23:11
steveireLarstiQ: OK, thanks.23:11
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