[00:09] <defendguin> superm1: thanks
[00:40] <Nostahl> hey guys
[00:40] <Nostahl> im setting up frontend for first time
[00:40] <Nostahl> its askin me to set this auto generated password in the mysql db on the backend
[00:40] <Nostahl> i dont see any documentation on how to do that on the site?
[00:44] <rhpot1991> superm1: I can do that, he is smart enough to have features specific channels so we just need to know what happens where
[01:34] <ZippyP> Hello, Need a bit of help using component (RGB) / (PR/CR-Y- PB/CB) output with a NVidia chipset in Ubuntu?? Thanks
[04:19] <mcquaid> since i've upgraded to hardy, opengl for video playback fails most of the time for recordings or video
[04:19] <mcquaid> using xv everything is fine
[04:19] <mcquaid> nvidia card using nvidia binaries
[04:20] <mcquaid> i say most cause it will work but rarely. have to keep trying
[04:20] <mcquaid> seeing lots of these errors: Timed out waiting for free video buffers
[04:21] <mcquaid> i hate going back to just xv as this nvidia card can't adjust birght/contrast etc with xv
[05:04] <harmony3264> Does anyone know if an AMD64 frontend is compatible with an i386 backend, and vice versa?
[05:09] <hads> Yes, will be fine. The myth protocol is independant
[05:19] <cesman> so long as you are using the same protocol version on both ;)
[05:21] <hads> Indeed :)
[05:27] <harmony3264> thanks!  protocol means myth version number or just sql schema or something else?
[05:29] <harmony3264> I've installed mythbuntu hardy i386 on one machine as primary backend with frontend AND mythbuntu hardy amd64 on another machine as secondary backend with frontend.  so that should be ok?
[05:29] <Zinn> harmony3264: Please watch your language.
[05:30] <rhpot1991> hmmmmm, wonder what made that happen
[05:30] <harmony3264> it's english but how do i "watch it"?
[05:32] <hads> heh you're a sensitive little bot aren't you Zinn
[05:32] <harmony3264> maybe it's into puns about backends?
[05:33] <hads> harmony3264: Yeah, myth version number basically, the protocol has versions but they don't chnage often.
[05:34] <harmony3264> when i try to watch live tv, i get lots of errors like this:      2008-06-29 19:50:16.839 Error: offset>181, pes length & current can not be queried
[05:44]  * rhpot1991 shakes his head
[05:44] <rhpot1991> apparently it found the phrase hard on inside your sentence
[05:44] <Zinn> rhpot1991: Please watch your language.
[05:45] <harmony3264> rhpot1991: i think you've proved it!
[05:45] <rhpot1991> harmony3264: ya took me a while to debug that
[05:46] <harmony3264> the error offset... is in the local (secondary) backend.
[05:47] <harmony3264> the frontend log on same machine says:    2008-06-29 20:35:21.789 Connecting to backend server: 192.168.2.200:6543 (try 1 of 5)
[05:47] <harmony3264> 2008-06-29 20:35:21.790 Using protocol version 40
[05:57] <harmony3264> can't find anything in the master's backend log about this failure.   just exited mythfrontend, restarted it, selected "watch tv" and checked the master's backend log again but it didn't change at all.  is that right, no logging on remote frontend connect and failure of a user request (watch tv)?
[06:09] <cesman> harmony3264: is mysql on the backend configured to accept connections?
[06:10] <harmony3264> cesman:  yes, at least it has worked from a frontend-only laptop.
[06:11] <harmony3264> cesman:  actually i just tested that again and it just flashes for a moment and returns to the menu just like my new machine.
[06:21] <cesman> harmony3264: then perhaps you should start your trouble shooting there...
[06:27] <harmony3264> cesman:  thank you.
[06:29] <cesman> you're welcome
[06:33] <laga> cesman: hey. nice to see you in here :)
[06:34] <cesman> hello laga
[06:35] <cesman> nice to be seen
[06:35] <laga> heh
[07:14] <harmony64322> sorry for the double name (harmony3264), i switched to the master backend machine in the other room.  this one was working fine until it filled its data hard drive.  now the backend log keeps looping with errors like:   2008-06-30 02:04:33.334 AutoExpire: CalcParams(): Max required Free Space: 1.0 GB w/freq: 15 min
[07:14] <harmony64322> 2008-06-30 02:04:33.341 Expiring 40 MBytes for 1312 @ Sat May 24 13:00:00 2008 => Boo           2008-06-29 22:49:35.424 Delete Error '/home/me/Data/mythtv/recordings/1312_20080525020009.mpg'
[07:14] <harmony64322> 			eno: Permission denied (13)
[07:15] <hads> Looks like the mythtv user which runs the backend doesn't have permission to write inside your home directory.
[07:16] <hads> I believe that's a fairly common problem people run into.
[07:17] <harmony64322> hads:  thanks.  yes, getting the permissions set up right has been a trial.  i haven't changed anything since it successfully wrote the files it now says it can't delete.  now the permissions are:    drwxrwsr-x 2 mythtv mythtv 16384 2008-06-30 01:33 recordings
[07:19] <harmony64322> does it always run as mythtv or could a different id be used for this clean up task?
[07:19] <hads> It runs as the same user as the backend which is mythtv usually on a mythbuntu install I believe.
[07:20] <hads> You could of course shit the recordings to the mythtv homedir or a neutral location.
[07:21] <harmony64322> maybe this has complicated things:  i put all the data on a raid array.
[07:21] <hads> Umm, oh dear. add an f at the appropriate place in that sentance.
[07:22] <hads> And that didn't get the bot going? hah.
[07:22] <harmony64322> yeah, i'm surprised zinn hasn't barked!
[07:23] <hads> The fact that they are on a RAID array doesn't really make a difference, it just depends on the directory tree permissions.
[07:24] <harmony64322> the recordings are too big to move.  i just thought by deviating from the standard install, that may have introduced the permissions problems.
[07:25] <hads> Well yes and no. The RAID doesn't come into it, just the fact that you shifted the recording directory inside your home is causing the permissions issues.
[07:25] <harmony64322> anyway, mythtv does have write permissions, yes?  and that's all that's needed to delete, correct?
[07:26] <hads> What's does `ls -ls /home/me/Data/mythtv/recordings/` show
[07:26] <hads> and also `ls -l /home/me/Data/mythtv/recordings/1312_20080525020009.mpg`
[07:27] <hads> Bah, that should be `ls -ld /home/me/Data/mythtv/recordings/`
[07:27]  * hads is having trouble with his fingers tonight
[07:30] <harmony64322> hads:  thanks, i think i see at least part of it.  some of the files it can't delete don't have write permission and it looks like they were created before i fixed the permissions on this directory awhile ago, eg  the first one here (though the dates seem like they're the same age?):     -rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv  3675444180 2008-06-21 21:40 1041_20080621205651.mpg
[07:30] <harmony64322> -rw-rw-rw- 1 mythtv mythtv       75922 2008-06-21 21:41 1041_20080621205651.mpg.png
[07:32] <harmony64322>  ls -ld /home/me/Data/mythtv/recordings/
[07:32] <harmony64322> drwxrwsr-x 2 mythtv mythtv 16384 2008-06-30 01:33 /home/me/Data/mythtv/recordings/
[07:32] <superm1> cesman, what brings you to these parts?
[07:35] <hads> harmony64322: Well yeah, looks like you found your problem. You'll need to give mythtv permission to write to those files so it can do what it will with them.
[07:35] <harmony64322> hads:  but it created those files, how can it have done that without having permission?
[07:36] <harmony64322>  ls -l /home/me/Data/mythtv/recordings/1312_20080525020009.mpg
[07:36] <harmony64322> -rw-r--r-- 1 me me 147861624 2008-05-25 02:06 /home/me/Data/mythtv/recordings/1312_20080525020009.mpg
[07:37] <hads> That's owned by you, not mythtv.
[07:38] <harmony64322> hads:  yes, but how did it get that way?
[07:38]  * hads shrugs
[07:39] <hads> Maybe you ran mythbackend as yourself one day.
[07:39] <hads> Time for me to go make dinner
[07:39] <harmony64322> does it matter if i start the frontend or backend from the command line or from applications menu?
[07:39] <harmony64322> hads:  ok, thats very much for your help!
[07:40] <harmony64322> thats = thanks!
[07:42] <hads> Yes, that does matter, if you're starting mythbackend from the command line as yourself then it will create files as you, not the mythtv user.
[07:42] <hads> np
[15:34] <Tophat> what would be my best bet on setting up a machine to have it input my cable to it, then have the cable run to the tv. and anything i wanted to record i would be able to easy?
[17:48] <laga> re
[17:48] <rhpot1991> laga: sorry about your team losing
[17:49] <laga> rhpot1991: hah
[17:49] <laga> i don't care that much :)
[17:49] <rhpot1991> ah ok
[17:49] <laga> we didn't deserve it anyways
[17:49] <rhpot1991> you were at the game right?
[17:49] <laga> no. i was going to watch it on TV, but only caught the last ten minutes or so
[17:49] <rhpot1991> ah
[17:49] <rhpot1991> thought you were actually gonna be there
[17:49] <laga> no, heh
[17:50] <laga> it was in austria
[17:50] <rhpot1991> heh, shows how much I know
[17:51] <laga> darn i'm tired
[17:51] <laga> mondays suck :)
[17:57] <rhpot1991> you know it
[19:11] <bjorn> hi im a dummy in ubuntu
[19:11] <bjorn> so i love to try mythtv
[19:12] <bjorn> can anyone help me?
[19:12] <laga> well, what's the problem?
[19:12] <bjorn> the installing
[19:13] <bjorn> wich file do i have to download
[19:14] <laga> take a look at the manual, it might be mentioned there
[19:14] <laga> the live cd is usually good enough
[19:15] <bjorn> mythbuntu is that only the tool or is it ubuntu with mythtv cause its 519mb?
[19:15] <laga> it's ubuntu with mythtv
[19:15] <bjorn> taught so
[19:16] <bjorn> already have ubuntu installed
[19:17] <laga> then follow the instructions on the website if you already have ubuntu
[19:49] <sebrock_> I have no sound after a suspend, however asoundconf list and /proc/asound/oss/sndstat both shows my Intel HDA sound
[19:49] <sebrock_> any clues?
[19:49] <sebrock_> I checked if it was muted but it did not appear that way
[20:05] <sebrock_> and I cant get LCDd and lirc to work correctly on suspend. I have added them both to /etc/defaults/acpi-support
[20:06] <sebrock_> both it seems they get ignored
[20:26] <sebrock_> why is mythbuntu not using /etc/defaults/acpi-support at all???
[22:00] <zabbadapp> how to install a new ffmpeg so that h264 decoding is threaded? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ffmpeg/+bug/194226 ... don't wanna wait for Intrepid
[22:01] <zabbadapp> medibuntus repos have the same old 2007-version according to their homepage
[22:14] <marian> hi all .. can anyone help me i've got a problem with the backend tv stream