| bryce | tjaalton: welcome back! | 00:04 |
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| bryce | tjaalton: we should get the new xserver and input-hotplug stuff hooked in the next couple weeks (I'm out the 2nd half of July as well) | 00:28 |
| tjaalton | bryce: thanks! | 00:33 |
| tjaalton | bryce: yep, should be doable | 00:33 |
| tjaalton | I'll upgrade my laptop to see how it goes | 00:34 |
| bryce | btw, don't know if you saw the libx11/xcb discussions on the list | 00:34 |
| tjaalton | I did, briefly | 00:34 |
| bryce | looks like xcb is causing issues, but they can be worked around. Doing a non-xcb libx11 doesn't look feasible to me due to compiz dependencies on xcb | 00:34 |
| tjaalton | right.. it would be ugly | 00:35 |
| bryce | but I think we are going to need to pull in some xcb updates from that upstream in intrepid | 00:35 |
| tjaalton | upstream should merge the handoff patches, which would make it never to use locking anymore | 00:36 |
| tjaalton | IIRC | 00:36 |
| bryce | I suspect that's the plan, although I don't have details | 00:36 |
| tjaalton | the patches became public in March, but then nothing happened | 00:37 |
| tjaalton | I'll probably mail the pkg-nvidia-dev list (debian) about the nvidia mess | 00:38 |
| bryce | cool | 00:38 |
| tjaalton | and ask if they've noticed that the latest driver dropped support for gf5 | 00:39 |
| tjaalton | I kinda like the new theme | 00:43 |
| bryce | I upgraded my main test box, but now I can't log in (some sort of Xinput error) | 00:45 |
| tjaalton | hum, mine works | 00:45 |
| tjaalton | this is my old laptop, but tomorrow(ish) I'll upgrade the X60s (intel) | 00:46 |
| bryce | yeah no idea. I abuse the system by putting on lots of experimental stuff, so maybe it just needs a fresh reinstall | 00:46 |
| tjaalton | k, need to get some sleep before getting back to work :) | 00:48 |
| bryce | night | 00:48 |
| tjaalton | night -> | 00:48 |
| bryce | wow, phoronix knows a lot about our X plans for intrepid - http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_810_alpha1&num=2 | 00:49 |
| pwnguin | public mailing lists, public UDS, public forums, public irclogs | 01:21 |
| bryce | yes, but for a tech journalist to actually do research is still a thing of amazement | 01:32 |
| tjaalton | actually, the article only shows what upstream is up to, and those naturally end up in intrepid ;) | 06:47 |
| tjaalton | xserver 1.5 requires mesa 7.1 etc | 06:47 |
| superm1 | tjaalton, where are you guys at so far on the nvidia stuff for intrepid? | 07:32 |
| superm1 | anything that i can help with to get it rolling? | 07:32 |
| tjaalton | superm1: I just got back from vacation, but I guess the problem now is that the latest driver dropped support for GF5 series.. so upgrades are "problematic" | 07:36 |
| superm1 | tjaalton, ugh, that's fairly ugly | 07:36 |
| superm1 | so nvidia-new nvidia-new-new nvidia and nvidia-legacy now? | 07:37 |
| tjaalton | there were options on how to proseed, but none of them are painless | 07:37 |
| superm1 | what were the proposed options for proceeding then? | 07:37 |
| tjaalton | probably not, the versioning in debian is more sane ;) | 07:37 |
| tjaalton | nvidia-...-legacy-96xx etc | 07:38 |
| tjaalton | let me dig up the post | 07:38 |
| superm1 | the first thing that comes to mind for me is a meta package that depends on all of them | 07:39 |
| superm1 | or recommends all of them | 07:39 |
| superm1 | that has a debconf question that sets up symlinks | 07:39 |
| superm1 | but that can get rather messy | 07:39 |
| tjaalton | tseliot: hi! what is the outcome of the discussion about the nvidia packages? | 07:55 |
| tseliot | tjaalton: we can use metapackages for different graphics card series which depend on the real packages | 07:56 |
| tjaalton | tseliot: but the real package names remain the same as in debian? | 07:56 |
| tjaalton | I'm about to mail them about the issue | 07:57 |
| tjaalton | ..that the latest driver dropped support for gf5 | 07:57 |
| tseliot | we can use driver 96xx for GF5 | 07:58 |
| tseliot | pitti wanted to see something like nvidia-glx-96 | 07:58 |
| tseliot | nvidia-glx-177, etc. | 07:58 |
| tjaalton | that's basically what debian has | 07:58 |
| tjaalton | maybe he just wasn't aware of it | 07:59 |
| tjaalton | mvo: does a dist-upgrade to intrepid still require some hand-holding? | 09:14 |
| tjaalton | there was some package that needed to be installed before that.. | 09:14 |
| mvo | tjaalton: yes and no, we fndutils needs to be upgraded before glibc, but we added a depeneds for this | 09:15 |
| mvo | so that should work | 09:15 |
| tjaalton | mvo: ok, cool | 09:15 |
| mvo | other than that I know currently of no extra hand holding requireed | 09:15 |
| mvo | fixed early last week IIRC (glibc is a bit of a beast :) | 09:16 |
| tjaalton | heh, I can imagine | 09:16 |
| tjaalton | laptop upgrading.. then on to flashy X stuff | 09:16 |
| mvo | tjaalton: did you had a chance to make package for the latest -ati and mesa for ati? with the r500 3d stuff :-D ? | 09:16 |
| tjaalton | mvo: -ati should be recent enough, mesa needs an upgrade for xserver 1.5 anyway, so when that lands it should work | 09:17 |
| mvo | tjaalton: let me know how it works for you (the uprade) I did some tests that looked ok, but gnome is in a lot of flux so sometimes it just refuses to upgrade because ubuntu-desktop is not installable | 09:17 |
| tjaalton | maybe this week, next week at the latest | 09:17 |
| mvo | rock! | 09:17 |
| * mvo hugs tjaalton | 09:17 | |
| tjaalton | we'll run off to vacation, both bryce and I, after next week :) | 09:17 |
| tjaalton | so hopefully there's enough time to iron out the most critical issues that could pop up | 09:18 |
| tjaalton | mvo: the dist-upgrade went fine | 10:01 |
| mvo | great | 10:03 |
| tjaalton | bryce: I'm thinking of putting mesa changes to git.d.o on a branch like xorg/xorg-server | 11:39 |
| Q-FUNK | hm | 13:12 |
| bryce | tjaalton: do we have that many changes against mesa? | 17:42 |
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| tjaalton | bryce: no, but it would be easier to pull stuff from upstream now that we need unreleased stuff | 18:33 |
| tjaalton | bryce: but it's not a matter of life or death, I can play with stuff on my own branch locally, and when it's ready I'll wrap up a package | 18:53 |
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| tjaalton | bryce: looks like there'll be a new libdrm today :P | 23:38 |
| bryce | ooh! | 23:38 |
| tjaalton | which should help a lot | 23:38 |
| * bryce nods | 23:39 | |
| bryce | wonder if the psb guys got their stuff into it | 23:39 |
| tjaalton | I think it's basically master without the ttm stuff | 23:43 |
| tjaalton | but could be wrong | 23:43 |
| bryce | once we get it in, I'll diff against the UME libdrm and see what remains | 23:44 |
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