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Rhorseme rubs03:48
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CostaRicanQuakeri get this error05:08
CostaRicanQuaker./mt/installmd86 or something like that05:09
CostaRicanQuakerwhen i check my disks for integrity05:09
CostaRicanQuakerand i already used 4 disks05:09
CostaRicanQuakeri've only got 6 left and i'm not going to keep trying05:09
CostaRicanQuakeri'm redownloading05:09
CostaRicanQuakerhopefully if i get hte same error again05:09
CostaRicanQuakeri will be able to go on and install xubuntu despite of what the disk check for errors tell me05:10
CostaRicanQuakerand you the experts will be able to help me fix anything that needs fixed from within the system05:10
CostaRicanQuakerbesides i plan to have xubuntu and master it, i'm eager to and can't be bothered wasting CDRs on errors05:10
CostaRicanQuakerand eventually when i master it, i will then be ale to help as well and sit here quietly05:11
spoo_hi05:18
spoo_i messed up my desktop!05:18
spoo_i tried installing compiz05:18
spoo_now i'm a mess05:18
spoo_i want my regular stuff back05:18
spoo_any help appreciated05:18
Rhorseis it xorg or Xfce that's messed up?05:24
spoo_umm05:26
spoo_i dunno05:26
spoo_i'm in kde now05:26
spoo_i thought that might work05:26
spoo_everythign is black05:26
spoo_it's there, but can't see it05:26
spoo_i just removed compiz, i think05:27
spoo_via terminal05:27
spoo_it said to delete the ./compizconfig folder/files05:27
spoo_i dont know where those are05:28
Rhorsesudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?05:29
spoo_what does that do?05:29
Rhorsecreate a fresh xorg.conf05:29
spoo_oh05:29
spoo_cool05:29
spoo_ok05:29
spoo_even in kde that works?05:29
Rhorseactually it's better to quit X and do it in a virtual terminal05:30
spoo_what's that?05:30
Rhorsetype alt-ctl F1, log in and type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:31
spoo_ok05:31
spoo_thanks05:31
RhorseHIW05:31
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CostaRicanQuakeronce i install xubuntu06:15
CostaRicanQuakeror06:15
CostaRicanQuakerwhen i'm intalling kubuntu06:16
CostaRicanQuakerhow do i keep it06:16
CostaRicanQuakerfrom erasing06:16
CostaRicanQuakereverything06:16
CostaRicanQuakeron my ntsf partition06:16
cody-somervilleCostaRicanQuaker, tell it to keep your current windows install06:23
cody-somervilleCostaRicanQuaker, ie. do *not* select the "use entire disk" option :)06:24
CostaRicanQuakerok i've got problems09:44
CostaRicanQuakerA) i had partitioned my g drive which has a total of 80GB into two partitions09:45
CostaRicanQuakerone ntsf to keep windows of about 39 gigabytes09:45
CostaRicanQuakerand another one of 40 that was ext309:45
CostaRicanQuakerso i put in the xubuntu live and install cd and it's a pain in the ass it runs real slow09:45
CostaRicanQuakerit gets stuck several times09:45
CostaRicanQuakerthen on choosing how to partition i chose use greatest free space available eventhough what it was doing was not even reading the remaining ext3 partition but just reading and dividing the extant ntsf partition09:46
CostaRicanQuakerand then it got stuck09:46
CostaRicanQuakerso i donjt' know09:46
CostaRicanQuakeri'm going to try to reburn Gparted again09:47
CostaRicanQuakerbecause originally it never let me redo my partitions09:47
CostaRicanQuakerbut otherwise i don't get why xubuntu is running so slow09:47
CostaRicanQuakerive 248 ram09:49
CostaRicanQuakeranyway i'll return09:49
microwaverHello, new to the xcfe environment, but I can't seem to simply drag and select items on my desktop11:22
jokoonhello, Id like to access a windows shared folder11:45
jokoonit worked with ubuntu11:45
jokoonI did a smb://192.168.0.1111:45
cody-somervillemicrowaver, unfortunately that isn't supported in the current version11:45
cody-somervillejokoon, Try installing PyNeighborhood11:45
jokoonthanks for the suggestion11:46
jokoonmore and more app with python these days11:47
microwavercody-somerville, strange thing :) but thanks for the help. It's not that I use the desktop , but wanted to make sure I didn't have a faulty installation11:48
cody-somervillemicrowaver, Oh wait. I think I misread you.11:48
cody-somervillemicrowaver, By drag and select, you mean select multiple items at the same time in a selection box, right?11:48
jokooncody-somerville it only detect my $print thing, why not my shared folders ?11:49
cody-somervillejokoon, Probably because you're not authenticating11:50
jokoonok11:50
jokoonit says "failed to mount"11:52
jokooni put the auth and empty password (I don't have a pass on my machine)11:53
jokoon(windows machine)11:53
jokooncody-somerville11:53
cody-somervillejokoon, Are you using PyNeighborhood app?11:54
jokoonyes11:54
jokoonI tried with cfis11:55
cody-somervillejokoon, I haven't had much luck with that application myself.11:55
jokoonno error message11:55
cody-somervilleYou might try linneighborhood instead11:55
jokoonbut it isn't mounterd eithe11:55
jokooncody-somerville not in the repo12:00
cody-somervilleThere is xsmbrowser12:00
jokoonok12:00
microwavercody-somerville, you're totally right.12:01
cody-somervillemicrowaver, okay. Just wanted to make sure :)12:01
microwavercody-somerville, so that's not supported right :) ?12:02
cody-somervillemicrowaver, right.12:04
ezonerplease, is there someone who want help with partition resize using Ubuntu LIVE CD ?12:46
jokooncody-somerville istn't there a way to just access a shared folder from my windows ?12:52
jokoonsomething just simple12:52
jokoonI have samba installed12:52
cody-somervilleezoner, How are you having trouble?12:52
jokoonI just want to transfer file on a lan network12:54
cody-somervillejokoon, http://grumpymole.blogspot.com/2006/12/xubuntu-browsing-samba-shares-with.html12:54
jokoonI don't understand how xsmbrowser works12:54
jokoonthanks12:54
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microwaverhello, i've been adding a launcher to my menu (adjusting main menu) but it won't show up.14:07
microwaverdo I need to restart my graphical shell after doing so?14:07
David-Amicrowaver: not what i know of, i have to close the menu editor for changes to take effect14:11
microwaverDavid-A, did that.14:11
microwaverDavid-A, I think it's connected with my gnome shell :|14:12
David-Ais it a gnome menu in the xfce panel?14:15
David-A(the 3 menu panel item)14:15
microwaverDavid-A, no, it's the xfce menu I guess14:19
microwaverDavid-A, but when I go to Settings  >  Main Menu I get something else than when I go to Settigns Manager > menu editor14:20
David-Amicrowaver: i dont have a "Settings  >  Main Menu"..., but i still have xubuntu 7.10. or you have installed somthing i have not.14:22
microwaverIs it save to do an autoremove of ubuntu-desktop, will it affect my /etc/ settings (like wireless drivers and such)?14:22
TheSheepmicrowaver: it wont' remove settings unless you use --purge14:24
microwaverso just autoremvoe ubuntu-desktop is 'safe'14:24
jokooncody-somerville14:29
jokoontuto doesn't work : (14:29
cody-somervillejokoon, Maybe your windows machine must not be configured correctly.14:30
jokoonIt only puts contents available of my home folder14:30
jokoonno idea what is misconfigured ?14:30
jokoonI don't understand, it works correctly under gnome14:31
jokoonI mean14:31
jokoonfor ubuntu to browse a windows shared folder14:31
jokooncan't xubuntu do that ,14:31
jokoon,14:31
jokooncody-somerville14:31
jokoon?14:31
cody-somervillejokoon, I don't know why it is not working for you. You haven't been very clear as to why it isn't working.14:32
jokoonin gnome I type smb:///<ip of my windows machine>14:33
jokoonin the address bar and it works14:33
jokoonin xubunu I did as the tutorial explained, put permissions on some folder, put fusesmb with it in the autostarted apps14:34
cody-somervilleTheSheep, maybe you can help jokoon  :)14:42
jokoonI also put fuse in etc/modules14:42
jokoonI have some problem when I try to put permission to fuse14:43
jokoonsometime I select fuse but it just doesn't want to14:43
jokoonit goes back on read only14:43
jokoonTheSheep ?14:50
TheSheepjokoon: sorry, I don't use windows, no idea15:05
jokoon: (15:06
jokooncody-somerville works better than before, apparently I am connected to my windows machine but it says timeout when I click on a folder15:18
cody-somervilleok15:19
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humbertoHow install cedega in xubuntu?16:39
cody-somervillehumberto, The same way you would install it in any other distro :)16:43
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whileimhereI am using Xubuntu 7.10. When I upgrade to 8.04 I lose support for both my external CDRom and my Wireless card. When I do a fresh install of 8.04 I also lose the CDRom and Wireless. When I use the live CD of 8.04 I have no issues. Any idea why? I am still at 7.10 because of these issues.20:11
migmgonna need to look at logs and see whats going on20:21
whileimhereAhh Well I wasn't even going to tempt fate until I could id what was the issue. I have to much stored on this laptop to play god with it right this second.20:22
gaurdrowhileimhere,  don't you have backups?20:32
slow-motionhi20:52
gaurdrohowdy20:53
CostaRicanQuakerI am having real trouble installing xubuntu, i have a question20:55
CostaRicanQuakeris there a way i can install ubuntu20:55
CostaRicanQuakerget xubuntu20:55
CostaRicanQuakerand get rid of the gnome20:55
CostaRicanQuakeras in upgrade to xubuntu's latest from ubuntu20:55
CostaRicanQuakermy computer's going real slow adn gets stuckwhen reading the install live cd so i'm downloading the alternate cd from a torrent20:56
CostaRicanQuakerbut i have an old ubuntu cd by canonical20:56
gaurdrohave you checked the integrity of the disk?  that might be your issue.20:57
gaurdroif you really want to go the ubuntu route you can.  install ubuntu and then install xubuntu-desktop. remove ubuntu-desktop and auto-remove everything else it says isn't needed.20:58
gaurdrobefore doing that make sure you have everything backed up in case something goes wrong.20:58
CostaRicanQuakeralso21:00
CostaRicanQuakeri had an ntsf partition as i'm on windows xp21:00
CostaRicanQuakeri had an old kubuntu cd21:00
CostaRicanQuakerso i used that21:01
CostaRicanQuakercreated a partition in ext321:01
CostaRicanQuakerbut didn't installkubuntu21:01
CostaRicanQuakerinstead i readsome more about kubuntu21:01
CostaRicanQuakeras it looked as more practical in thelong run21:01
CostaRicanQuakerso what happens is i wanted to alter the partition21:01
CostaRicanQuakerused gparted and it didn't work, so my system is telling me i have a 79 gb ntsf partition however if i go to my computer and check the hard drive it says its' about 39 gb and that i only hve 25 gb left21:02
CostaRicanQuakeri downloaded a partition programme and it says i cna't create a new partition as there's not enough free space21:02
zoredacheCostaRicanQuaker: if you don't have a backup of your data on that ntfs partition i would make getting one created your first priority21:03
CostaRicanQuakeri've already backed up, so i dont know if i should just stick in the ubuntu cd and make two parititons21:03
CostaRicanQuakerbt i wonder if ubuntu will be able to create a partition for xp should i want to use that too21:04
zoredacheCostaRicanQuaker: you may have to start by doing a clean install of windows if you partitions are really too messed up21:04
CostaRicanQuakercan't i do that from ubuntu?21:04
TheSheepyou can21:05
TheSheepbut betetr format it under windows21:05
TheSheepthey didn't document their filesystem too well, you know21:05
CostaRicanQuakerok, meanwhile what i'm doing is downloading the torrent for kubuntu and xubuntu alternate cds21:05
CostaRicanQuakerwho didnt?21:06
zoredachemicrosoft21:06
gaurdromicrosoft.  ntfs is proprietary21:06
CostaRicanQuakerso once i burn the cds for xubuntu and kubuntu i boot from the windows instal cd and partition it?21:06
CostaRicanQuakeror reinstall...i can't remember21:07
TheSheepCostaRicanQuaker: just leave some free space for linux21:07
TheSheepCostaRicanQuaker: windows can't create linux partitions21:07
CostaRicanQuakerso i stick in the windows install cd and let it boot up21:07
CostaRicanQuakeras though i was installling windows again21:08
CostaRicanQuakerand there'll come a point in which it asks me topartition and i make a new partition21:08
CostaRicanQuakerof say 67 gb21:08
zoredacheCostaRicanQuaker: once you get to the partitioner part you may have to start by deleting all the partitions that are there.  then press 'c' to create a partition and make it big enough for windows and whatever you want to store there21:09
CostaRicanQuakeri've heard that with some emulator or something like that i will eventually have access to my windows files from xubuntu and viceversa21:10
zoredacheyes, you can mount your ntfs partition in linux...21:11
CostaRicanQuakeri'm thinking 15 gb for linux and 65 for windows21:11
sloopy321:12
CostaRicanQuakerso the way for me to fix this is to boot up from the xp install cd and act as though i was reinstalling everything over again right21:13
zoredachehave any new bugs been reported against the the recently release xfdesktop4 package  xfwm4 keeps segfaulting....21:16
EverettGM1819ok, so uh, how do you use the so called menu editor, i just converted from ubuntu to xubuntu, because my computer is old. like really old and my really new computer blew. im used to ubuntu but it ran to slow on here so i was recommended this distr. i like it it is really fast21:22
migmis there a question in there?21:29
KidforkDoes xubuntu have WUBI?21:29
RiottaKidfork: all ubuntu flavours has it I think21:31
EverettGM1819migm: well it is different from ubuntu and i dont kno how to use it21:32
KidforkRiotta: Ok thank you21:32
gaurdroKidfork,  it does.  i've used it on a laptop i couldn't repartition.21:34
Kidforkguardo: what do you mean you couldn't repartitio21:34
CostaRicanQuakeri've a question21:34
CostaRicanQuakeri'm really excited about switching to xubuntu21:35
CostaRicanQuakeri've never tried anything other than windows21:35
gaurdroI mean,  it wasn't mine to repartition.  I had it through school.21:35
slow-motionn821:35
CostaRicanQuakerin how many years will i be able to master it?21:35
gaurdro define "master it"21:36
KidforkI see21:36
EverettGM1819well thanx for helpin21:37
CostaRicanQuakerunderstand it21:38
gaurdrofor using it, it shouldn't take more that a few months to get the basics of how things work.  for more advanced stuff,(ie: writing scripts from scratch)  it'll take a fair bit longer.  but that'd be the same for any distribution.21:43
gaurdroif you want how the inner workings are put together,  that'll be quite a feat for a newbie but i'd say a couple years and you'll have how the pieces fit well enough.  I'm of course taking a blind guess at your computer ability.21:44
CostaRicanQuakergreat!21:53
erna_ts22:25
gnomefreakwhat is xubuntu default sound server? as in something like Pulse Audio22:29
zoredachei believe it is pulse in hardy22:34
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CostaRicanQuakerwill ubuntu become as big as debian?22:48
zoredacheCostaRicanQuaker: what do you mean by 'big'22:49
CostaRicanQuakerwhich is free-er and will ubuntu become as free with gobuntu?22:49
CostaRicanQuakermore existing packages/programmes, community, support22:49
zoredachei think when it comes to community support ubuntu is winning...  i don't know the package counts, but i would guess ubuntu is pretty close22:50
zoredacheas for being free, argueable debian is more free... but the frequently choose freedom at the cost of usability22:51
microwaverhow can i reset the xubuntu layout in a command?22:53
CostaRicanQuakerhow do you mean by that?22:53
CostaRicanQuakerfreedom at the cost of usseability22:53
zoredacheCostaRicanQuaker: getting wifi, working in debian is an extreme pain... getting the 3d features of a video card is painful....22:54
zoredachethere is no official support for non-free codecs mp3,wma,dvd,etc....22:54
CostaRicanQuakerso there's more support for allprogrammes in general in ubuntu?22:55
CostaRicanQuakerzoredache: would you recomend xubuntu over kubuntu for an old laptop that might need to ocnect to wifi?22:58
microwaverresetapplets22:59
zoredacheI personally dislike kde a lot so my answer is going to be heavily biased.  Hardware support should be the same in xubuntu vs kubuntu22:59
microwaver!resetapplets22:59
ubott2Factoid resetapplets not found22:59
zoredachexubuntu tends to be a more lightweight enviroment and will run a bit better on older systems23:00
CostaRicanQuakerwhat advantages does ubuntu have over mandriva? i just called my girl to tell her to telll this dude to just back up23:02
CostaRicanQuakerher computer23:02
LectusXubuntu is nice for older PCs. It used to run better than Win98 on my old celeron 700mhz.23:02
CostaRicanQuakerand not let him install mandriva23:02
CostaRicanQuakeras i preffer ubuntu23:02
LectusXFCE desktop + ubuntu base is best combo for fast/easy to use experience.23:02
zoredacheI am not familiar with madriva.  I don't know what default packages are there...23:03
zoredacheI do know I strongly dislike RPM.  Mostly because of lots of issues I had in the past that have since been corrected23:04
LectusIMHO (K/X)ubuntu best advantage over Mandriva is apt. It's the best package manager. Plus, the community is big and friendly.23:04
Odd-rationaleCostaRicanQuaker: http://polishlinux.org/choose/comparison/?distro1=Ubuntu&distro2=Mandriva23:04
CostaRicanQuakerthank you23:05
Odd-rationalei'd go with fedora before going with mandriva...23:05
CostaRicanQuakerok so basically support and Advanced package terminal23:07
CostaRicanQuakertool*23:07
Lectusubuntu is easier to use IMHO23:08
Odd-rationaleimo, debian is a better base than redhat...23:08
CostaRicanQuakeryet kubuntu is more practical than debian as it has support for all kinds of programmes not just open source and free23:09
Lectusyep... I agree. My favorites distros are: ubuntu, debian and arch linux. Going from easier to harder to use, but all these have good base system.23:09
Odd-rationalemy favorites are arch linux, ubuntu, and puppy linux. in that order.23:10
Lectus(k/x)ubuntu is like a easier debian with nicer support and 3 differente flavors of desktop to choose from already done. And they ship free CDs (big plus).23:11
Odd-rationalepacman > apt; abs > bsd port system :)23:11
Lectusand more up-to-date packages too23:11
Odd-rationaleLectus: have you tried sidux?23:12
Lectusnope23:12
Odd-rationaleme neither... :|23:12
LectusI'm just trying xubuntu 8.04. They made huge improvement in user interface. It almost feels like gnome and has a nice theme too. But is faster and lighter. XFCE rocks. I might begin using it again. :P23:14
Odd-rationaleLectus: yeah. xubuntu 8.04 is a great improvement23:15
jarnosOdd-rationale: Compared to 7.10?23:18
CostaRicanQuakerback later cheers and ythanks for advice23:18
jarnosHow do you know what for a removable device is busy? (Knowing that would make it easier to make it less busy.)23:20
TheSheepjarnos: "busy" means that at least one program has opened at least one file from at least one partition that is mounted from that device23:37
jarnosTheSheep: Yes, but I would like to determine that program.23:39
jarnosjarnos: Maybe fuser can be used?23:40
jarnosTheSheep: The problem is I can't unmount /dev/sdb1 even if, according to fuser, no process is using /dev/sdb1.23:45
jarnosThe_Kernel: oh, I had to use the mount point as parameter.23:46
jarnosThe_Kernel: Sorry, I meant TheSheep23:47
jarnosThunar is preventing me from unmounting a removable drive even if I have closed all thunar windows.23:48
TheSheepjarnos: probably some thumbnailer is still running23:48
jarnosTheSheep: I doubt.23:50
jarnosTheSheep: The drive has already stopped spinning.23:53
Odd-rationalejarnos: yeah. cosmetic wise... esp.23:54
TheSheepjarnos: some thumnailer will ust hang -- not all of them are well written23:58
jarnosTheSheep: So what can I do to make it stop?23:59
jarnosjarnos: just kill thunar?23:59
TheSheeplook through ps x and kill it23:59
TheSheepwith -9 probably23:59

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