[00:33] how long does a complete qt+kde-compile take approximatly on a 3 GHz machine? [00:33] netto [00:34] a long time [00:35] thatd be days! [00:35] ;9 [00:36] arrr. i meant qt+kdebase! [00:40] probably around 5 hours at a guess [00:42] thx [01:26] maltedik: 3 hours in total, maybe? [01:26] That's if you also build kdelibs and kdepimlibs [01:31] too long to stay awake till its finished. thats all i had to know... === skreech is now known as dAskreeCh === coreymon is now known as coreymon77 [02:42] Nightrose: ping === stdin_ is now known as stdin [03:04] fuckfuckfuck! why did i stay up? whyyyy? [07:15] apachelogger: if you've been thinking about a next task for me i'd like to know. I can also pick out something nice myself, but chances are there it will be less useful for a bigger picture (assuming such a thing exists). [10:00] * Riddell whistles a good morning tune [10:05] :) [10:05] Riddell: it is, comrade, it is [10:20] hey ho [10:35] hi Xand3r [10:36] i have a question, qutim is uploaded now, when will it be build? [10:39] Xand3r: it's in new, it'll need to be approved by an archive admin [10:39] then it'll build in a few hours [10:40] then its binaries need to be approved by an archive admin [10:40] then it's done [10:40] ok, much time will go [10:40] mouz: there is no less useful task in packaging ;-) I'd recommend you search another application to package with debhelper [10:41] Xand3r: it's my archive admin day today, things usually get done when I'm on duty :) [10:42] :) [10:43] :D [10:43] * apachelogger hands Riddell a cookie [11:48] smarter: W: webkitkde: non-dev-pkg-with-shlib-symlink usr/lib/libwebkitkde.so.1.0.0 usr/lib/libwebkitkde.so [11:49] probably the .so and .h files are best just removed for now until something needs them [12:00] Riddell: ok [12:06] good mornin' [12:11] oh [12:12] shiny new project page for ubuntu :D [12:12] gmorning nixternal [12:12] apachelogger: where's that? [12:12] Riddell: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu [12:13] bling bling [12:15] du -h /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/*/amarok/ --total hmm [12:15] might be worth splitting that out [12:15] ack [12:16] actually I asked the translators to compress their images... apparently they never got round to do that :| [12:33] * nixternal sets up pbuilder on the work lappy - time to get some work done around here! [12:33] * nixternal just realized he fired of DIST=hardy [12:33] off [12:33] smart :) [12:34] tis ok, I will fire off intrepid now :) [12:34] Riddell: gotta list of work to do? I need something to do today while I am hiding away at work :) [12:35] nixternal: able to test CDs? [12:35] ya, I should be able to do that [12:35] I will use the ultra fast pipe at work and down them all :) [12:36] nixternal: hardy.1 could do with someone checking it actually works http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hardy/ [12:36] roger that...any merges or bug fixes needing work? [12:37] I need to check for a KDE 4 kvkbd, add that to my todo list [12:37] we should probably replace koffice with koffice 2 [12:37] what are we going to do about kmilo with kde4? [12:38] I would love for all of my keys to work [12:38] we need to rescue the keyboard mappings that kde 3 had, then make sure kmix/amarok/guidance-power-manager listens to them all [12:39] what file(s) are the mappings located again so I don't have to search like crazy [12:39] I used to remember where they were so I could tweak them for my kb [12:41] kdeutils somewhere [12:42] not sure where we want to add it now, something in kdebase would do [12:42] true [12:43] or kubuntu-default-settings [12:44] which I havn't touched for intrepid [12:46] so you could tidy up kubuntu-default-settings [12:46] ooh fun :) [12:46] like remove the kde3 bits? [12:46] yep [12:46] or update the kde3 bits to reflect kde4 [12:46] we did that for hardy [12:46] so just remove the kde 3 bits [12:46] and the mouse [12:47] who put a mouse in there :P [12:47] cursor [13:02] * nixternal heads to work - everyone have a great day! [14:43] damnit.. missed Artemis_Fowl again [15:21] aloha, why the hate from this http://paste.ubuntu.com/24227/ ? [15:21] :) [15:23] Missing build-dep on some qt opengl thing? [15:26] looks like it [15:27] i thnk it'd be libqt4-opengl-dev [15:32] * Xand3r is now working on kgmailnotifier [15:46] Xand3r: new version? [15:47] jep [15:50] Riddell: ISOs, good news or bad news first? [15:50] nixternal: both! [15:50] .1 ISOs [15:50] Bad News: I am at work :( [15:51] that's not unexpected [15:51] Good News: They work! encryption works! live works! daily works! no bugs I came across [15:51] ScottK: worked :) thanks [15:52] No problem. [15:52] Glad I could help. [15:52] here is how stupid RPMs are....you have no idea where they come from just by looking at them [15:52] I was missing the obvious [15:53] I am in the process of updating a ton of them, and just by looking at the packaging name, I have no clue if they are from fedora, red hat, centos, or any other rpm repo out there [15:53] totally ridiculous [15:53] the same is true of .debs [15:53] * nixternal loves x.x-xubuntux or just x.x-x, I know where they come from at least [15:54] Riddell: well we know where Ubuntu pkgs come from, you can't say that about CentOS [15:54] they either pull from Red Hat, Fedora, or some RPM cest pool [15:55] we don't know where xandros packages come from [15:55] apachelogger: microsoft :P [15:55] linspire [15:55] wells [15:55] linspire is sharing? [15:55] in fact we don't know what exactly they are providing like their strange only-with-subscription-music-palyer which is actually amarok [15:55] nixternal: xandros ate linspire [15:56] literally [15:56] nice [15:56] * apachelogger always imagined xandros as some kind of evil shark [15:56] eating users [15:56] 2 of the worst operating systems I have ever tried, next to Windows ME [15:56] gOS is right up there too [15:56] hm [15:56] windows me was pretty good! [15:57] wth? you are a horrible comedian [15:57] -.- [15:57] ;p [15:57] pfft [15:57] haha [15:57] again, no taste for the beautiful things :P [15:57] I love it when my boss doesn't show up [15:57] ..just so long as he doesn't read irc logs [15:58] Xandros was my first Linux distro. It got me started for the first 6 months until I got tired of the training wheels. [15:58] nixternal: it's like waiting for your teacher in a 1 hour class... and you're told to wait... 45 minutes later, you learn that he won't be coming in :) [15:58] in case anyone is interested, Red Hat is looking for some community people to work for them...once again I had to say no [15:58] nixternal: i thought you were already working for htem? [15:58] Riddell: hahaha, I am sure he doesn't [15:58] Hobbsee: heck no, they tried to rob me of my manhood, I mean Kubuntu :P [15:58] hum [15:59] heh [15:59] * apachelogger wouldn't have a problem with that [15:59] apachelogger: shuld i build itfor kde3 or kde4? [15:59] apachelogger: you can't work with Kubuntu anymore with one of their community spots [15:59] anyone know an emma? Hobbsee? [15:59] nixternal: well [15:59] kubuntu ain't all that good [15:59] Riddell: yes, she is a spammer [15:59] really, I would trade it in for a job @ MS anytime [15:59] I stuck up for her until she started back up bothering people, especially Hobbsee [16:00] Riddell: yes, why? [16:00] Xand3r: you can only build it for the version it was developed for :P [16:00] * Hobbsee twitches [16:00] the name 'emma' alone causes Hobbsee to explode and do nasty things with the stick of doom [16:00] Hobbsee: she wants me to lift the ban on this channel [16:00] !hobbsee [16:00] I phear the stick so shhhhh [16:00] Riddell: tell her that i said no. [16:00] <\sh> Hobbsee: the emma from -meeting the last time? [16:00] apachelogger: hmm... could be^^ [16:00] booyah, I knew that one was coming [16:00] \sh: yes [16:00] \sh: yeah, that's the one. [16:00] * apachelogger didn't see the stick in quite some time [16:00] Riddell: she's terrible for doing anything productive and staying on topic, so... [16:00] nothing to phear! [16:01] apachelogger: that's what happens when you use Gnome, it dumbs down the stick [16:01] now it is the 'pointy stick of gDoom' [16:01] yeah [16:01] Riddell: i'm not sure if you ever saw the part before the tutorials day, but there were technical discussions, and all she could manage to say was "oh, that nixternal seems like a nice man". [16:01] stupid stick that is [16:01] Hobbsee: she was my stalker? [16:01] completely at random, apart from it being mentioend that nixternal had been working on whatever we were discussing. [16:01] <\sh> Hobbsee: which is not a lie, or? ,-) [16:01] nixternal: yeah. [16:01] which is a lie! [16:02] hahaha, Jucato you arse :P [16:02] \sh: oh, i doubt it's a lie, but it's certainly not helpful or productive to development : P [16:02] hm [16:02] \sh: go revu touchfreeze :P [16:02] <\sh> apachelogger: my chroots are updating ;) [16:02] Riddell: you'll also find that she's very argumentative, and doesn't do what she's told, if she doesn't like it. [16:03] chroots don't do updates, they are up-to-date [16:03] so, go ahead and decide whether you want a person like that in here. [16:03] uh oh, here comes Nightrose [16:03] at least kopete said so [16:03] hehe [16:03] oh boy [16:03] my kopete is b0rked! [16:03] <\sh> apachelogger: building now [16:03] quite bad actually [16:03] <\sh> kopete is borked from top to bottom and vice versa [16:03] Nightrose: can you please tell the amarok guys to stop flooding my inbox with commits [16:04] that ain't very helpful for my mail cleanup [16:04] apachelogger: nope sorry :P [16:04] <\sh> instead of forgetting about contacts with unknown transports, no...kopete needs to crash without a reason and a good error message [16:04] \sh: that will all change once the tapioca stuff is ready [16:04] topiaca [16:04] well [16:04] <\sh> apachelogger: tapioca? why can't they just use psi ;-) [16:04] something like that [16:04] * Hobbsee pokes apachelogger with the pointy end of the Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!™ [16:04] jeeez [16:05] haha [16:05] * apachelogger starts crying [16:05] Hobbsee: s/DOOM/gDOOM/ :P [16:05] hah [16:05] Hobbsee: do you ever use the other end? [16:05] :P [16:05] now that ain't fair at all :'-( [16:05] nixternal: no, it's desktop-agnostic [16:05] * Hobbsee pokes Nightrose with the very pointy end of the Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!™ [16:05] rofl [16:05] I see [16:05] you do [16:05] * apachelogger throws a sonic screwdriver at the LPSogDtm [16:06] as said, stupid stick it is! [16:06] * apachelogger better gets himself a motu force field [16:06] Nightrose: yup. apachelogger was lucky - he only got the pointy end. [16:06] ;-) [16:07] * Hobbsee catches hte sonic screwdriver. neat! this should come in handy! [16:07] now that was one long flight :P [16:09] hum [16:10] add ideas to bug 238370 [16:10] Launchpad bug 238370 in soyuz "Support 'external' launchpad-buildds" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/238370 [16:10] super important bug [16:10] fail. [16:10] make that ubersuper important [16:11] apachelogger: hwo do you get around the problem of ensuring that the build environment is the same, everywhere, and has not been tampered with? [16:12] I have no idea [16:12] until someone comes up wiht a good solution to that problem, it won't get done. [16:12] that's the reason I asked for ideas :P [16:13] you asked for ideas? i thought you just said it was importatn. [16:13] the bug is important, that's why one should add ideas :P [16:14] ^^ [16:14] <\sh> apachelogger: done [16:15] not sure but i think fedora has something like that if I understood correctly [16:15] might be worth looking into how they do it [16:15] i didn't think they even attempted to address the issues about the rpm's being trusted or not? [16:15] dunno [16:18] <\sh> apachelogger: please upload xml-commons-external too :) [16:19] \sh: k [16:30] Riddell: touchfreeze waiting in new :) [16:59] apachelogger: have you got some time for me? [17:01] may be some one else could help me, i have this lintian warning "binary-or-shlib-defines-rpath ./usr/bin/kgmailnotifier /usr/lib" [17:01] i dont undertand the report of lintian.debian [17:01] so i dont know what to do [17:02] Xand3r: ignore it [17:02] Riddell: ? [17:02] ok [17:02] i do [17:02] it's something debian worries about, but it's not actually a problem [17:03] ok, apachelogger 20min than i have possibly the package finished === santiago-ve is now known as Guest87893 [17:13] vorian: poke bug 241052 [17:13] Launchpad bug 241052 in sane-backends-extras "Please sync sane-backends-extras 1.0.19.7 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/241052 [17:15] vorian: also bug 241041 [17:16] Launchpad bug 241041 in xen-tools "Please sync xen-tools 3.9-3 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/241041 [17:28] Riddell: ouch! [17:28] :) [17:33] ScottK: bug 235289 has gutsy and hardy, which did you approve? [17:33] Launchpad bug 235289 in hardy-backports "Please backport BitPim 1.0.5 from Intrepid" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/235289 [17:35] * ScottK looks [17:35] apachelogger: the extended copyright tooked some time, i doing the final build now, after it i will put it on revu [17:35] Riddell: Hardy [17:36] http://aplg.kollide.net/snapshot3.png [17:36] opinions? [17:41] apachelogger: bling [17:41] what it's for? [17:42] ScottK: hmm well, backport-source is broken anyway [17:42] firefox icon set [17:42] Urgh. [17:43] apachelogger: nice. are there more? [17:44] yuriy: that's just the blingy graphic for addons.mozilla.org [17:46] can anyone confirm bug 244601 for me? [17:46] Launchpad bug 244601 in koffice2 "koffice-kde4 crashes on saving "word" format" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/244601 [17:46] apachelogger: i got finnaly had time to fix k9copy, it's on revu when/if you have time. [17:51] so now on revu kgmailnotifier http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=kgmailnotifier [17:51] * apachelogger adds revuing to his todo [17:59] poor apachelogger :( [18:10] no ktorrent 3.1 in hardy? :| [18:11] gribelu: nope [18:12] if bug 234514 gets fininshed, we can backport it [18:12] Launchpad bug 234514 in ktorrent-kde4 "New Upstream + package merge ktorrent 3.1" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/234514 [18:12] final version is out.. :) [18:12] still rc1 in intrepid [18:12] yep [18:12] right [18:13] oh damned quassel is so weird with urls [18:13] if you want to test it, i have it in my ppa for intrepid [18:13] hmm wonder if it'll work under hardy.. the rc1 deb didn't [18:13] vorian on launchpad? [18:14] yep [18:14] http://ppa.launchpad.net/vorian/ubuntu/pool/main/k/ktorrent/ [18:17] vorian: works under hardy :D thanks [18:18] hmm yeah just like rc1 .. crashes when i right click a torrent [18:20] hmmm [18:21] maybe it's because hardy isn't intrepid .. who knows [18:23] some weird stuff.. "configure toolbars" shows no 'actions' at all... no plugins under plugins. This stuff working under intrepid? [18:24] yes [18:25] oh well.. i'm waiting for some new parts and then i'll switch to intrepid 64bit.. can't wait :) [18:25] :) [18:46] apachelogger: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/244628 [18:46] Launchpad bug 244628 in amarok "amarok-common conflict with amarok" [Undecided,New] [18:46] meh [18:46] * apachelogger adds to todo [18:46] though [18:46] Nightrose: you could fix that ;-) [18:47] nah my todo list is full already [18:47] :P [18:47] at least fr the next 5 days [18:47] * Nightrose gets food [19:06] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7962 [19:06] please test and provide reviews on that page [19:07] oh fun, my panel in 4.1 is now only appearing on 1 desktop [19:08] apachelogger: it requires login... [19:08] yes, get one :P [19:10] apachelogger: looks great [19:10] but wouldn't it be better to fix firefox icons detection? [19:11] hehe [19:11] that is like "fix gtk" [19:11] :P [19:11] which would actually fix the icon detection as well, as most icons are actually provided through gtk [19:11] or rewrite firefox in Qt :p [19:12] anyway, back to konqueror [19:13] smarter: IIRC someone is working on that ... again ... [19:13] o rly? [19:14] apachelogger: like duke nukem forever? (: [19:14] apachelogger: well.. it works [19:14] yuriy: please provide a review [19:14] * apachelogger needs reviews to get it out of that experimental thingy [19:14] smarter: http://blog.vlad1.com/2008/05/06/well-isnt-that-qt/ [19:15] smarter: I think KDE/suse dirk also once wanted to work on that stuff, but never got an account in the mozilla cvs [19:19] apachelogger: have you revied my package? [19:19] *reviewed [19:20] no [19:20] first I have to buy some blue pills [19:20] just got one awesome offer [19:21] Xand3r: thest the firefox theme and write a review for it [19:21] i using it since you geved me it [19:22] is there an update? [19:22] oh boy [19:22] Xand3r: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7962 [19:22] you should really read backlog :P [19:22] apachelogger: reviewed for you, very nice, looks nice on kde3 as well [19:22] claydoh: thank you :) [19:33] apachelogger: i installt the theme new, cause i wantet to test everything, but i cant install the theme vie the homepage [19:33] Xand3r: you have to login [19:33] sure [19:33] but since you need to provide a review anyway ... :P [19:34] apachelogger: added another review to the firefox add on [19:34] and then after the dowload ther error comes [19:34] Arby: thank you very much :) [19:34] apachelogger: what i have to say; cant install it caus i have an unexpextet error [19:34] Xand3r: well, which error? [19:34] unexpected :D [19:35] uhh, firefox errors are even better than kopete crashes [19:35] all the same^^ [19:35] Error: [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80520015 (NS_ERROR_FILE_ACCESS_DENIED) [nsIFile.moveTo]" nsresult: "0x80520015 (NS_ERROR_FILE_ACCESS_DENIED)" location: "JS frame :: file:///usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9/components/nsExtensionManager.js :: moveFile :: line 1802" data: no] [19:35] Source File: file:///usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9/components/nsExtensionManager.js [19:35] Line: 1802 [19:35] ups [19:35] sorry thought it was just a line [19:36] hm [19:36] Xand3r: sudo chown -R YOURUSER:YOURUSER /home/YOURUSER/.mozilla [19:37] what does this comand do? [19:37] make you proprietary of ~/.mozilla [19:38] *proprietor even [19:39] owner :P [19:40] <\sh> apachelogger: can you try to reproduce this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/244548 with kde 4.1beta2 on harsy? [19:40] Launchpad bug 244548 in leonov "Crash when use Backspace in Launchpad Auth Dialog" [Undecided,New] [19:40] <\sh> aeh hardy? [19:41] \sh: happens for the mail box as well [19:41] intrepid though [19:41] <\sh> apachelogger: what mailbox? [19:42] the mail address textbox [19:42] <\sh> apachelogger: and on hardy? [19:43] * apachelogger has no hardy, but I think it happend there as well [19:44] apachelogger: i have reviewd it [19:44] * \sh can't reproduce that [19:44] damn my english is worse today [19:46] Xand3r: mille grazie [19:47] \sh: you have to type something [19:47] then backspace it [19:47] i want to compile gtk-qt-engine-kde4 by my self, but i get much compilig errors, i think the source is on mistake, here the log http://paste.ubuntu.com/24284/ [19:48] <\sh> apachelogger: works :) [19:49] \sh: I can make a screencast if you want ;-) [19:49] <\sh> apachelogger: please .) [19:50] Xand3r: are you using intrepid? [19:50] smarter: no hardy [19:50] * apachelogger is wondering which dbg package to install [19:52] \sh: http://aplg.kollide.net/screencasts/leonov-flatlined.ogg [19:52] <\sh> Xand3r: the only bug is here: /home/alexander/gtk-qt-engine-kde4-1.1/src/qt_theme_draw.c:119: error: implicit declaration of function ‘abs’ [19:53] hm [19:53] und ich dachte abs wäre was gutes :P [19:53] hmmm [19:53] \sh: what i have to do? [19:54] <\sh> Xand3r: fix it :) [19:54] patching the source?! [19:54] <\sh> apachelogger: sucker...Backspace != CTRL+Backspace [19:54] <\sh> apachelogger: oh wonder oh wonder [19:54] uhm [19:55] \sh: works with backspace-only for me [19:55] <\sh> lol [19:55] <\sh> for me it crashes only with ctrl+backspace [19:55] hm [19:55] maybe only people with a cool keyboard get the backspace feature :P [19:55] no rather i have an ugly firfox [19:56] Xand3r: but why do you want to compile it yourself? [19:56] i have kde-nightly [19:56] <\sh> apachelogger: what I did...typeing ctrl+backspace touching one key more ==> crash [19:56] Xand3r: wrong channel then :P [19:57] jo^^ [19:57] \sh: I did ... typing -> backspace -> crash [19:57] * \sh sucks his thumb.... [19:57] * \sh <--- brainfcked [19:57] Xand3r: apt-get source gtk-qt-engine-kde4, change /usr/lib/kde4/* path to /opt/kde-nightly, rebuild [19:58] * \sh tries to find someone who can fix kde [19:58] Riddell: gwenview is missing in the current intrepid seed [19:58] smarter: funny for building it i have to compile it [19:58] \sh: that is like "fix gtk" :P [19:58] uh [19:58] I made that joke already [19:58] damn [19:58] * apachelogger prepares for revuing [19:58] <\sh> apachelogger: not so much like "fix gtk".... [20:00] forget everything i said about gtk-qt-engine-kde4 [20:06] omg [20:06] this debdiff is gigantic [20:06] apachelogger: which? [20:06] yours [20:06] ofcours [20:07] everything changed [20:07] Xand3r: I'll throw the stuff that needs fixing at you [20:07] try to find out what is wrong [20:07] fixing? what? [20:08] the things I don't like [20:08] from my package, or other things you dont like? [20:09] here an other comiling error http://paste.ubuntu.com/24293/ [20:10] Xand3r: +XSBC-Original-Maintainer: Alexander Kopf [20:10] I hope you know the stuff that comes with that change [20:10] gnaa [20:10] its a totaly new [20:10] package [20:12] well [20:12] can't be [20:12] we have the package in ubuntu [20:12] <\sh> apachelogger: pykde4 from bindings is bugging us...with a simple qlineedit it works perfectly [20:12] Xand3r: besides, you wouldn't be using the initial changelog entry from me then [20:12] \sh: b0rked, totally b0rked [20:12] apachelogger: ok, i change it, sorry [20:12] if that doesn't change until 4.1.0 I will have to go insane [20:13] Xand3r: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24295/ [20:16] Xand3r: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24296/ [20:17] <\sh> bah [20:18] apachelogger: there is a new line at the end of the man [20:18] exactly [20:19] Xand3r: look closyl [20:19] *closly [20:19] hm [20:19] * \sh bangs his head on the desk....and he needs a sledgehammer to make it better [20:19]