[00:33] hey all, has anyone tried to install the nvidia drivers from the nvidia site and gotten a message that a Xen Kernel is installed? [00:33] Yup. Anyone who's tried to install the drivers from nvidia.com has seen that message :) [00:34] hahaha, awesome [00:34] nice to know Nvidia loves us [00:35] There's a patch on ubuntuforums, in the Intrepid section. [00:36] dandy, thanks === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG [01:08] argh, ralink rt2500 doesn't work. [01:09] DanaG, is this an external pcmcia card [01:11] Yeah. [01:12] Cardbus, rather. (I'm kind of ****-retentive on that (and yes, the asterisks are me hitting '*')) [01:13] Also, the LEDs act a bit oddly. [01:14] The "power" LED blinks on activity.... and the "activity" LED.... does nothing. [01:14] while the company ralink is nice as far as OSS goes, their cards are just not that good in my experience. [01:25] Yeah, and the antenna is rather suck-tacular. [01:26] took me two weeks straight of sleepless work to get it going on Suse 10 (back in the day) [01:29] I wonder if even Broadcom works any better. [01:30] much. [01:30] Can you get cardbus intel cards? 'Cause they Just Work. [01:31] I think you can, actually. [01:31] One interesting thing I wish somebody still sold: [01:31] oh heck, I might be better off ndiswrapping the card. [01:32] warning, pdf: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=4&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.minipci.biz%2Fvytek_ps_cardbus_Instructions_07-04.pdf&ei=-XppSIH4MJKOsAPLvJGnDQ&usg=AFQjCNGQwTHy0nN4SOdNgJaehxWmi8b-Bw&sig2=OilrS649eGi1jo3vahtVdQ [01:32] argh, damn googlified links! [01:32] http://www.minipci.biz/vytek_ps_cardbus_Instructions_07-04.pdf [01:36] Hmm, for ndiswrapping (yes, using it as a verb)... are 98/Me, 2k, or XP drivers better to use? [01:38] * RAOF shrugs. [01:59] Oh heck, it doesn't even work with ndiswrapper. [02:04] iirc the 98 worked the best. [02:04] for relative values of best :) [02:14] Wow, I'm very impressed with Intrepid, even though it's alpha 1 [02:14] My wireless works out of the box (although the light still has the "off" color, should I report this?) [02:15] report all :) [02:16] bazhang: To be fair, I haven't restarted yet, I should try that before I can be 100% sure the light is staying orange and not turning blue ;) [02:16] :) [02:24] Odd: my onboard audio device goes silent when the volume hits 50% or lower. [02:26] how is the best way to determine a crash? my intrepid system has been crashing, i think i narrowed it down based on what i am doing (narrowed down to network) but i want to be sure, any suggestions? [02:29] What behavior are you getting? [02:29] DanaG: kernel crash. everything freezes, cant even ssh in [02:30] i have tried all the sysrq stuff, doesn't work [02:30] Is there anyway to load up Intrepid's theme in hardy? I like it a lot [02:32] ASULutzy: which is the new theme? mine looks like the old? [02:32] Hmm, does caps lock start blinking? If so, that's a kernel panic. [02:32] The dark theme? [02:32] One thing that helps: switch to a console so you'll be able to actually read the panic message. [02:33] DanaG: i don't believe so [02:33] but i can't get to a console [02:33] everything is locked up [02:33] ASULutzy: them name [02:33] ? [02:33] Hmmm, how do I mount a samba drive? Apparently smbmount doesn't exist anymore? [02:34] derekS: The theme doesn't have a name, it's just listed as "custom", it looks very similar to Hardy's theme except it's dark [02:35] ASULutzy: oh, i gotta check it out, i think i customized mine a while ago, so i have the old stuff [02:35] What I mean is, got there _before_ the lockup. [02:35] derekS: A while ago? I thought alpha one just came out like, this week? [02:36] derekS: You must have installed Intrepid realllllll early ;) [02:36] ASULutzy: i did [02:36] day 1 [02:36] i have a stable and an ubuntu+1 machine [02:36] So how do I mount a samba share? smbmount doesn't work? [02:36] but its updated frequently... [02:36] I upgraded to it when I saw that it had a newer PulseAudio version. [02:36] ASULutzy: i don't use samba [02:37] DanaG: so any suggestions? [02:37] derekS: Yea, I just got rid of OpenSuse 11 to play with Intrepid... Intrepid has about as much polish lol [02:37] Oh, I need to install smbfs to get smbmount, duh [02:41] :) [02:42] I hope they stick with the dark Gnome theme, it's really clean looking, and easy on the eyes [02:42] With a darker wallpaper this would look very slick [02:43] My current theme: http://picpaste.com/screenshot-orange-nodoka.png [02:43] Stuck with Hardy's wallpaper though... I guess art isn't a high priority for alpha1 === stdin_ is now known as stdin [02:44] I'll take a screen shot of how it looks now and drop it there, one sec [02:44] http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_1.png [02:44] http://picpaste.com/pics/Screenshot_1.1214876665.png [02:44] DanaG, nice :) [02:45] I like that gtk engine. [02:45] Fedora uses the same engine, but their gtkrc isn't as nice. === hydrogen_ is now known as Hydrogen [03:34] selecting pulseaudio outputs sound thru pcsp [03:34] sudo rmmod snd_pcsp [03:35] and blacklist it [04:30] Why doesn't ssh work in Intrepid? === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG [04:38] Could someone please help? I'm completely unable to connect to my ssh server running hardy (I'm using Intrepid) I've copied over my key from the hardy install, and the configuration files are the same, but Intrepid refuses to connect. My desktop verifies that I have connected in /var/log/auth.log but I never get a $USER@host:-$ prompt on the client side... [04:38] This seems to be like a pretty big bug? [04:38] Restarting the client and booting into Hardy and everything is fine [04:46] This is weird, I can connect to my ssh server (it's running Hardy) while I'm running hardy with no problems, in Intrepid, I've copied over ~/.ssh/identity from the Hardy install as well as made sure the config files (/etc/ssh/ssh_config) are the same in Hardy and Intrepid, but I'm able to connect in Hardy, and not in Intrepid. if I try ssh 192.168.0.102 in Intrepid it just hangs and I never get a $USER@host:-$ prompt, but checking /va [04:46] ETOOLONG [04:50] thats what she said [04:50] Nice [04:50] I've added some output to a pastebin, if anyone wants to take a look at that [04:50] This is weird, I can connect to my ssh server (it's running Hardy) while I'm running hardy with no problems, in Intrepid, I've copied over ~/.ssh/identity from the Hardy install as well as made sure the config files (/etc/ssh/ssh_config) are the same in Hardy and Intrepid, but I'm able to connect in Hardy, and not in Intrepid. if I try ssh 192.168.0.102 in Intrepid it just hangs and I never get a $USER@host:-$ prompt, but checki [04:51] ASULutzy: That text remains too long for IRC. [04:51] no, you just remain absolutely useless [04:51] oh [04:51] I see [04:51] yes [04:51] EUSEMORENEWLINES [04:52] ASULutzy: And to address your actual comment - this text is entered via ssh from an Intrepid box to a Hardy box. [04:52] http://paste.ubuntu.com/24127/ RAOF: heh, well, I've copied over ~/.ssh/identity from the hardy boot to the intrepid boot, and the config files are exactly the same. It works in Hardy, doesn't work in Intrepid. [04:53] RAOF: I can md5sum them to prove it? :P [04:53] Hm. That looks pretty working. [04:53] RAOF: exactly [04:53] At least; it's not failing pubkey auth. [04:54] RAOF: And the server says it's successfully connected me (in /var/log/auth.log) the only problem is the terminal just sits there [04:54] RAOF: I never get a prompt that says $USER@desktop:-$ [04:54] Yeah. It might be worth trying a different terminal emulator? [04:55] RAOF: Which are you feeling lucky with? [04:55] xterm has a certain retro charm. [04:56] There's always an actual terminal option, too. [04:56] RAOF: I'll try both. xterm has (at a glance) the exact same output but still no ryan@desktop:-$ [04:56] I'll try tty1 [04:57] looks the same... the worst part is I can't ctrl+c to stop it or anything [04:58] I'm totally clueless right now.... [04:58] Yeah. [04:58] All the outputs say I've connected successfully [04:58] on both sides [04:58] netstat -t agrees [04:58] I seem to recall this happening before, but I can't remember how it resolved. [04:59] lol, netstat -t shows that I have 3 estanlished ssh connections with the desktop, but I can't actually send stuff in any of them... [04:59] I'll read over ssh_config, although the md5sum of the one in the hardy install and the intrepid install are the same... So not sure how much that'll help [05:01] eb59056334fffc55e9f308f0e2315c38 /etc/ssh/ssh_config [05:01] eb59056334fffc55e9f308f0e2315c38 /media/hardy/etc/ssh/ssh_config [05:01] I call shenanigans. [05:11] Hmm, could your login shell itself be screwed up? [05:11] Try logging in with whatever it is that lets you not run your profile, and such. [05:11] I don't remember the option, unfortunately. [05:14] oh hey, I believe I heard that intrepid may ship with a theme from the dark family [05:15] If this is so, I applaud the rest of you joining us and look forward to ubuntu looking, you know, /different/ [05:15] don't let the critics get you down, rock on, all that--- and goodnight, it's about my bedtime [05:15] (still waiting for my new ubuntu dell to arrive...) [05:16] I just installed the .26 kernel from packages.ubuntu.com (running hardy otherwise), and my sound is messed up: all staticky and what have you. running a latitude d800/pulse [05:20] any recommendations for troubleshooting? it doesn't seem like it would be a permissions or file access issue; the sound works, it's just so "staticky" that it's barely intelligible. Should I update pulse to the current intrepid build, or is that asking for more trouble? I really only want the .26 kernel; I don't want to fully update to the intrepid alpha right now. [05:21] RAdams: oh yeah, that's a known problem [05:21] wgrant: do you still have instructions on how to fix that? [05:21] oh... any fix for it? falling back to alsa, or something else? [05:22] it appears lost in my history [05:22] it's using the pcspkr instead of the actual decent sound. [05:22] oh [05:22] that makes sense [05:22] why it sounds like crap [05:22] i'll keep googling [05:25] Hobbsee: is this it? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=616845 [05:26] but these seem to be fixes for those running alsa -- I'm using pulse [05:26] RAdams: the way i fixed it was a heck of a lot easier [05:26] :( [05:26] I'll keep looking... [05:28] "One possibility is add following options in your /etc/modprobe.conf. options snd-intel-hda index=0 model=3stack" [05:28] does that look familiar, Hobbsee? [05:29] no [05:29] * Hobbsee looks up the log dates [05:29] Q_Q [05:30] Hobbsee: are you using alsa or pulse? [05:30] 26th of june. #ubuntu-devel [05:30] !logs [05:30] pulse [05:30] !logs [05:31] humm [05:31] i'll hit the logs site [05:31] 26 june... ok [05:32] RAdams: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/06/26/%23ubuntu-devel.html [05:32] I'm lucky: my pc speaker doesn't function once snd-hda-intel loads. [05:32] RAdams: search for hobbsee there, and keep reading down. [05:32] from 5.11 is the important part. [05:36] Hobbsee: I did it. It sounds much better now, but still staticky [05:36] should i restart? [05:37] DanaG: when I was googling, I actually saw that listed as a bug in a few bug trackers. haha [05:37] you can try. [05:37] brb [05:37] And when in Windows, my pc speaker has only two volume settings: off, and way too loud. [05:38] (or rather, not painfully, but merely very irritatingly, loud) [05:42] Hobbsee: yeah, still getting staticky sound. How can I check to make sure it's not using pcspkr? [05:42] Oh, I probably didn't notice this because I pipe everything off to an external server! [05:42] That's why. [05:43] RAOF: modprobe -r it? [05:43] it's called something else now, though [05:43] Hobbsee: No, I pull up the pulseaudio volume control quite often, because I generally pipe music to a separate box. [05:44] And the setting's persistant, so something probably hit pcspk once, I moved it from there, and forgot about it. [05:44] how do i check if it's using pcspk? [05:44] sorry, that was to RAdams [05:44] oh [05:45] I'd install the padevchooser package, which will pull in the pulseaudio volume control, with which you can send streams to whatever device you choose. [05:47] raof: i installed it an am running it, but I don't see where I select what sound device it should play on [05:48] You right-click on a playback stream (such as Banshee, or rhythmbox, or whatever), and it brings up the device the stream is playing on. [05:49] Alternatively, go to the Output Devices page, right click on something that isn't pcspk, and set as defalut. [05:51] oh! it's working [05:51] * RAdams tinkers more [05:52] * RAdams slaps his 82891DB-ICH4 around a bit with a large trout === threethirty is now known as threethirty_away [06:25] Does alpha 1 not like virtualbox? [06:25] probably not [06:25] would it like vmware better? [06:31] i doubt it [06:31] try real HW? [06:31] actually, it should like it a bit - a lot of the testing was done that way [06:32] alrighty [06:53] Wow, that's new. A spam with a link in it saying "report this spam". [06:54] where did you get that from? [06:54] I don't know. It's gone already. [06:55] lol [06:55] did you report it spam? =p [06:55] :P [06:56] don't tell me you really did O_O [06:56] No, of course not. [06:56] But it's an as-yet unfamiliar way of getting people to root their boxes. [06:57] root their boxes? what dyou mean [06:57] Download and run a trojan. [06:57] swt === The-Compiler is now known as fuchsfuchsfuchs [12:08] Hi, is the 2.6.24-16-generic kernel used in Intrepid Alpha 1 the same as the one in Hardy? [12:08] hey bazhang [12:12] ok, is pulseaudio likely to be in Intrepid? [12:13] if so will it be configured correctly this time? [12:19] anyone in here alive and got info on Intrepid?? [12:22] test [12:22] failed [12:22] damn [12:22] What kind of info are you looking for? [12:22] hey Pici, do you happen to know -- is the 2.6.24-16-generic kernel used in Intrepid Alpha 1 the same as the one in Hardy? [12:23] Bodsda: I dont know, but the launchpad page for the package should tell you [12:23] Pici, it appears OOTB wifi support (at least for my device) has been removed [12:24] Bodsda: I remember someone saying something about l-r-m not being available, but I might be mistaken about that. [12:24] il check LP cheers, also Pici, is pulseaudio likely to be in intrepid? [12:24] l-r-m? [12:24] linux-restricted-modules [12:25] ah, that could be my problem [12:25] could i download the deb on my hardy then trnasfer to my intrepid, build and it work? [12:27] * Pici shrugs [12:28] sounds like fun, cheers Pici [12:29] Bodsda, what chipset [12:29] rt73 [12:29] ouch [12:30] yeah huh [12:30] I had a rt61 [12:30] its buggy on Hardy and i thought maybe intrpeid fixed it, guess not (or not yet) [12:30] bazhang, wow, thats going back a bit [12:31] Bodsda, it caused me no end of grief [12:32] bazhang, well this one works out of the box, but buggy, i filed an LP bug but no reply in over a month, no joy on UF or #ubuntu im totally stumped by it, and so's everyone i talk to about it [12:33] they are a nice company (ralink) for OSS, but the cards could be better Bodsda [12:33] me = teenager; which inturn = unemployed; which in-turn = skint [12:34] I hear that Bodsda :) [12:35] I'd love to walk my ass down to pcworld (after checking the ubuntu supported wifi devices) and go il have that one! but i can only do that with a 'oh damn, old bill RUN!!!' [12:35] hehe [12:38] bazhang, anyidea what the latest available kernel is? [12:39] Bodsda, not sure; will check though [12:39] bazhang, cheers! (check how?) [12:40] 2.6.26 Bodsda [12:41] http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=intrepid+ibex+kernel+version&btnG=Google+Search [12:41] -1* ? [12:41] -2 [12:41] iirc [12:41] 2.6.26-12? [12:41] or [12:41] 2.6.26-2 [12:41] !info linux intrepid [12:41] linux (source: linux-meta): Generic complete Linux kernel.. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.26.2.2 (intrepid), package size 2 kB, installed size 32 kB [12:42] .2.2 [12:42] cheers Pici Hobbsee bazhang and the bot [12:44] hhmm -- http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ only has 2.6.25 [13:11] Greetings [13:11] greetings [13:11] Is anyone running Ibex in VMware? [13:11] And if so, what do you do to make it work? No success here (freeze up after login) [13:12] not here [13:13] it's installed but not running on my machine because they've conveniently broken nvidia [13:13] so i either use the crappy nv driver and go compizless or stare at a black screen with a blinking cursor [13:13] how very annoying [13:15] well it's alpha after all. Anyhow I'm looking for vmware installations not "on machine" installations :) [13:16] why vmware and not virtualbox? [13:17] Good question. VMware does networking etc better as well as I can actually have a working USB within virtual machines. [13:17] um virtualbox's gone a long way [13:17] i'd say vmware and virtualbox are on par in terms of networking [13:17] and usb [13:17] now at least [13:18] VirtualBox - I just can't get USB to work despite all the guides I've followed. And I can't get bridged network to work on vbox either. [13:19] ah [13:19] oh well [13:20] virtualbox's always given me better support than vmware [13:20] however I should point out that after I changed to vmware (it's also a company-bought product anyway) I stupidly found out that I shouldn't be getting bridged network on a wireless card so that bit is my fault not vbox. [13:20] it's not supported. [13:20] eh? [13:20] actually... bridged network on a wireless card is possible [13:20] i've done it before [13:20] it's just a lil weird [13:20] you just gotta whack out networkmanager and gang so they don't interfere [13:21] It's possible...but not supported and I'll rather take the easy way out instead of hacking around :) [13:22] heh [13:22] the easy way _is_ hacking around ;) [13:23] hmm...anyhow I do plan to switch to KVM sometime though. [13:23] eh?! [13:23] well [13:23] to put it bluntly, you're not going to be able to get bridged nteworking and stuff working on kvm if you can't even handle virtualbox [13:24] last i heard, kvm's using qemu or something of that sort [13:24] some sort of modified qemu [13:24] and so is virtualbox, but virtualbox has a gui, and kvm doesn't [13:25] also virtualbox has all the features which is all the rage in kvm, [13:25] including the whole cpu extensions thing [13:26] I have nothing against vbox :) the killer thing for me is USB which I haven't gotten to work and I haven't got the time to fix it when vmware does it just fine. [13:26] and the KVM is for me to learn and play. [13:27] ah [13:27] well. [13:27] didn't you follow the guides closely? [13:28] Very closely. I'm not sure why it does not work for me and I don't really have the time. If it was my own project I would look into it more closely. [13:28] (the USB is for Windows XP virtual btw) [13:33] yeah it works for me [13:33] =\ [13:33] one line in the fstab [13:33] restart [13:33] and that's it [13:34] hi i need help with installing nvidia drivers on 8.10 [13:34] none /proc/bus/usb usbfs devgid=1001,devmode=664 [13:34] 8.10 has no nvidia drivers! [13:34] that's right! they left it out! [13:34] >=( [13:34] darnit :( [13:34] T_T [13:34] yes [13:34] cry with me [13:34] fellow nvidia user [13:34] :~~~~~~( [13:34] oh fsck. this channel is logged isn't it [13:35] lol [13:36] Got a really weird ssh problem in Intrepid, can be found here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=845825 I filed a bug report, but I want to be sure it's not just stupidity on my part [13:36] so there is no way to install nvidia drivers on 8.10 atm? [13:36] so 8.10 alpha 1 is pretty stable for me, only thing that broke was the sound when i logged in :) [13:36] this 60Hz is killing my eyes [13:37] molgrum: you have a crt? [13:37] yeah [13:37] sound was a bit messed up for me, but I fixed it, and open ssh seems borkin. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=845825 problem here [13:37] it can handle 1280x1024@85Hz [13:37] molgrum: oh, 60hz on lcd is stan :) [13:37] hyperair - I did that for vbox and still no joy. Anyway another reason for KVM - I have a server with no GUI. Can vbox work in commandline only? [13:38] but now without nvidia drivers it's 800x600@60Hz [13:38] molgrum: ouch [13:38] JGJones: yes. [13:38] molgrum: are you saying you actually got nvidia drivers running? [13:38] yeah, i heard nvidia drivers didn't work, sad [13:38] or is that vesa [13:38] like.. rescue mode and stuff [13:38] hyperair: it's vesa now [13:38] yeah [13:38] ah [13:38] since 8.10 doesn't have any nvidia drivers [13:39] you can always use nv [13:39] it's for nvidia [13:39] supports high res and high refresh rates [13:39] but! [13:39] does it work for 8800gts? [13:39] no compiz for you [13:39] um i'm not sure about that card [13:39] i don't care about compiz :) [13:39] it's worth a try [13:40] alright, how do i get those drivers? [13:40] i hate compiz on by default, it wastes so much processor [13:42] nv is installed by default [13:42] hmm [13:42] audacious crashes on startup now :( [13:42] lol [13:43] that's alpha software for yo [13:43] u [13:44] at least amarok works [13:45] hyperair: so i just change the "Driver nvidia" to "Driver nv"? [13:46] ssh problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=845825 any ideas? [13:47] gonna try this now [13:49] so I have an ipod nano (3rd gen) and when I restart my laptop with it plugged in, it doesn't get past the vendor logo (vaio), do you think it's a bug? [13:50] Anyone else getting this error when mounting a windows share "DBus error, Mountpoint Already registered". Trying to work out if its a bug or my Samba settings. [13:50] or could it be finding an boot record on the ipod since it's usb and my laptop is usb enabled, and it's trying to boot to the apple firmware?!?! [13:51] alright nice [13:52] except for a black flicker occuring sometimes when it's just set a new resolution [13:52] greenpen: I've neen able to mount a drive with smbmount [13:52] been* [13:53] Asulutzy: Thanks, not tried doing it via the console, will try it. [13:55] greenpen: Yep, I used sudo smbmount //192.168.0.102/theshare /media/share -o username=$USER [13:55] greenpen: and it worked [13:56] i don't think you need smbmount [13:56] unless you're not in the fuse group [13:56] i mean [13:56] sudo [13:59] Solve my ssh problem, get a cookie: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=846096 [14:00] do cookies come through paypal? [14:00] lol, my pc speaker is beeping when X starts [14:01] ASULutzy: is your /dev/pts mounted? [14:04] hmm [14:04] mount | grep devpts [14:05] devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=620) [14:06] oookaay [14:06] then it's not a devpts problem after all [14:06] so weird [14:06] wait a sec. why does your devpts have such a long line of mount arguments [14:07] try unmounting devpts [14:07] sudo umount /dev/pts [14:07] and remounting it with "sudo mount none /dev/pts -t devpts" [14:07] sorry [14:07] sudo mount -t devpts -o rw none /dev/pts [14:07] k will try that now [14:08] ryan@ubuntu:~$ sudo umount /dev/pts [14:08] [sudo] password for ryan: [14:08] umount: /dev/pts: device is busy. [14:08] (In some cases useful info about processes that use [14:08] the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1)) [14:08] meh [14:09] lsof /dev/pts [14:09] um [14:09] nevermind [14:09] looks like you cant umount it easily [14:09] what's with gid=5 anyway [14:09] ;) [14:09] dyou have any entry regarding /dev/pts in your /etc/fstab? [14:10] ryan@ubuntu:~$ cat /etc/fstab [14:10]