[02:39] <Bodsda> hi guys, i was reffered here by someone as  a bug i made on launchpad hasnt been addressed, i wondered if someone could take a look for me -- https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/224424
[03:09] <Bodsda> quiet bunch
[03:12] <hwilde> sssshhhhh
[03:12] <Bodsda> hey hwilde
[03:14] <Bodsda> hwilde, you anygood with wifi bugs?
[03:14] <hwilde> i like to fry them up so they're crunchy, then either white or dark chocolate.
[03:14] <hwilde> high in protein too if you're an atkinser
[03:16] <Bodsda> hwilde, would you mind taking a look at this for me -- hi guys, i was reffered here by someone as  a bug i made on launchpad hasnt been addressed, i wondered if someone could take a look for me -- https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/224424
[03:17] <Bodsda> damn, wasnt meant to repost the whole post
[03:17] <IamReck> Bodsda, it seems like hard problem, the individuals that have the experience and knowledge to help you will probably not be looking in here all the time.  I would post on the forums, or wait for a while more here.
[03:18] <hwilde> lol cpu spike when using youtube?
[03:18] <hwilde> try getting the updates.
[03:18] <Bodsda> IamReck, ive posted on UF numerous times, and in #ubuntu, bug has been on LP for a while, not even a comment, and i cant even isolate the app/device causing the cpu spikes -- just whatever app is using the internet
[03:18] <Bodsda> hwilde, updates?
[03:18] <hwilde> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mozilla-firefox/+bug/176237
[03:19] <Bodsda> hwilde, its not a prob with FF
[03:19] <hwilde> !176237
[03:19] <hwilde> where's the bot
[03:19] <Bodsda> hwilde, thats not my bug, nor anything related, youtube was just an example
[03:19] <IamReck> did you reinstall Firefox?
[03:21] <Bodsda> IamReck, yes plent of times, but apt lags machine, as does xchat/irssi -- anything which uses internet
[03:21] <Bodsda> plenty*
[03:21] <hwilde> I would get rid of network manager
[03:21] <hwilde> but that's just a personal thing
[03:21] <Bodsda> hwilde, how would that help?
[03:21] <RAOF> That suggests that it _may_ be a kernel problem, or possibly some form of dns-lookup issue.
[03:21]  * hwilde stares at Bodsda 
[03:22] <Bodsda> RAOF, classic 'works on windows' so its not dns, and ive changed my dns's no joy, ive even tried windows driver with ndiswrapper to no avail
[03:23] <hwilde> why don't you try different wifi hardware
[03:23] <RAOF> Other options include: something in your stack doesn't like ip6 lookups.  Or...
[03:23] <hwilde> specifically chipsets
[03:23] <RAOF> hwilde: That would be most helpful, yes, but presumably Bodsda doesn't actually have access to a wide range of wifi hardware :)
[03:23] <Bodsda> hwilde, because im skint
[03:24] <Bodsda> ipv6 is disabled in FF
[03:24] <IamReck> Bodsda, do you have the same issue when you use a live cd?
[03:24] <hwilde> But you said it WAS working before?   Go back to that point and then wait for updates
[03:24] <IamReck> maybe some weird install/cd defect
[03:25] <Bodsda> IamReck, yes
[03:25] <Bodsda> hwilde, i never said that
[03:25] <hwilde> Bodsda, so it never worked?
[03:25] <IamReck> same problem on a Live CD?
[03:25] <Bodsda> hwilde, worked yes, problem free no
[03:25] <Bodsda> IamReck, yes
[03:25] <IamReck> freaky.
[03:25] <hwilde> pray for updates or buy supported hardware :/
[03:26] <IamReck> what hardware do you have?
[03:26] <Bodsda> Belkin F5D7050 usb dongle
[03:26] <Bodsda> hwilde, i have no money, buying stuff is not an option
[03:26] <RAOF> You might want to follow the top part of this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeamBugPolicies , and move the bug to the appropriate kernel package.
[03:27] <IamReck> You running Ubuntu off a USB driver?
[03:27] <Bodsda> RAOF, apropriate kernel? -16 & -19 ?
[03:27] <IamReck> USB key
[03:27] <hwilde> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Belkin_F5D7050_ver_4000_(ZyDas_zd1211b_driver)
[03:27] <hwilde> damn google is smart
[03:27] <Bodsda> hwilde, wrong version
[03:27] <RAOF> Bodsda: linux-source-2.6.24 is going to be the right package methinks.
[03:27] <Bodsda> it uses the rt73 chipset
[03:27] <hwilde> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Belkin_F5D7050_ver_3000_(Ralink_rt73_driver)
[03:27] <hwilde> blam
[03:27] <hwilde> sup now
[03:27] <Bodsda> RAOF, ok cheers
[03:27] <RAOF> Bodsda: Also, it worked properly in beta 5?  Can you remember which kernel that was?
[03:28] <Bodsda> hwilde, actually go to the page dude
[03:28] <hwilde> $ wget http://www.ralink.com.tw/data/RT73_Linux_STA_Drv1.0.3.6.tar.gz }}}
[03:28] <hwilde> dude get the drivers
[03:28] <Bodsda> RAOF, no i cant -- and i dont even trust my memory enough anymore but its worth a shot, if i could find out the kernel
[03:28] <Bodsda> hwilde, keep up, ive tried that
[03:29] <hwilde> lsmod | grep -c rt73
[03:29] <Bodsda> meh, ive reinstalled since then
[03:29] <hwilde> see
[03:29] <hwilde> see
[03:29] <hwilde> get the drivers man
[03:29] <RAOF> I wonder if we could find an alpha 5 Hardy livecd image...
[03:29] <hwilde> I've got the release candidate image somewhere
[03:29] <Bodsda> no, bin there done that hwilde -- it doesnt fix anything
[03:30] <IamReck> Bodsda, same issue on 7.10
[03:31] <Bodsda> IamReck, dunno, couldnt get wifi to work on 7.10, then hardy beta 5 OOTB worked
[03:31] <IamReck> sry, I think I already asked, what kind of computer are you using?
[03:32] <Bodsda> Desktop - AMD 1800 64bit, running hardy 32 Desktop
[03:32] <Bodsda> 1.5 gig ram
[03:33] <Bodsda> also tested on 64bit ubuntu with same problem
[03:34] <hwilde> So it did work at some point?  Go back to that point.  Then watch what upgrade breaks it
[03:34] <Bodsda> that point (if my memory works) is hardy beta 5, for which i cant find an iso
[03:35] <hwilde> oh cmon
[03:35] <hwilde> you can find anything if you look hard enough
[03:36] <Bodsda> found it
[03:36] <Bodsda> Alpha 5 includes the 2.6.24-8.14 (2.6.24.2-based) kernel. This brings in
[03:36] <Bodsda> but thats very old no?
[03:37] <Bodsda> anyone got a tuto on downgrading the kernel?
[03:37] <hwilde> !downgrade
[03:37] <hwilde> damn bot is on vacation
[03:37] <Bodsda> ubottu2 says
[03:37] <Bodsda> Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[03:38] <Bodsda> i know that damn bot
[03:38] <hwilde> lol
[03:39] <Bodsda> if i ask this in #ubuntu il get killed
[03:39] <Bodsda> oh well, could be funny
[03:40] <RAOF> Bodsda: It might also be nice if you could test an Intrepid livecd (if there's one of those available).
[03:41] <Bodsda> RAOF, ooo, new stuff, sound like fun -- il look into it
[03:42] <Bodsda> RAOF, cheers for ur help, im gonna be lagged to hell while these download so will be unresponsive for a while -- cya
[03:47] <Rocket2DMn> RAOF, there aren't any livecds for intrepid yet
[03:48] <Rocket2DMn> not until alpha2 i believe
[03:49] <RAOF> Right.
[04:08] <IamReck> yes, not until alpha 2
[04:08] <IamReck> alpha 1 is working well for me though
[05:48] <Bodsda> There is an alternate though
[09:35] <Iulian> Hey
[09:37] <Rocket2DMn> hi
[09:38] <techno_freak> hi
[10:36] <qense> hello
[10:38] <Bodsda> hi
[11:39] <qense> wow, that's quite a radical change at the project overview page the LP team made
[11:40] <qense> just the ubuntu project overview page though
[11:42]  * techno_freak checks
[11:48] <jpds> Nice.
[11:49] <qense> yes
[12:17] <afflux> morning
[12:17] <Iulian> Good morning afflux.
[12:18] <afflux> Hi Iulian!
[12:21] <qense> hello
[16:20] <calc> anyone know why 'actions' section doesn't show up for bugs anymore?
[16:21] <calc> it doesn't appear on the main page about the bug, you can get to it if you try to mark the bug as duplicate but that is a bit dumb
[16:22] <Pici> I remember seeing something about a bit of a re-design of launchpad's UI.
[16:22] <calc> to make it unusable? :)
[16:22]  * calc should go ask someone on launchpad channel about it
[16:23] <Pici> calc: I have an email from June 12th about 'a change in the layout of bug pages' its sent to the LP beta testers group
[16:23] <calc> ah
[16:24]  * calc probably should make a note of what he uses often that isn't available instead of just complaining its different
[16:25] <calc> though making huge changes to a gui could be considered a bug itself
[16:25] <calc> see Office 2007 ;-)
[16:27] <calc> ok its all there just much different way
[16:27] <Hobbsee> yeah
[16:27]  * Hobbsee answered in LP, too
[17:01] <thebishop> is there a fix for this gio dependency bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gio-standalone/+bug/182945
[17:07] <bdmurray> thekorn: ping
[17:07] <thekorn> bdmurray, hi
[17:08] <bdmurray> I'm looking at bug 244452 and I'm curious why the self tests in intrepid.merge didn't catch it.
[17:09] <thekorn> I ask myself he same today
[17:09] <thekorn> there are two reasons:
[17:10] <thekorn> 1.) there is no error in parsing tthis page: order of elements just changed and the xpath statements where just valid
[17:10] <thekorn> 2.) not enough test cases
[17:11] <bdmurray> okay, that makes sense to me then
[17:12] <bdmurray> Do you know why the patch adds a print statement?
[17:12] <thekorn> stephan added this for testing, i changed this patch before committing it to the branch
[17:12] <bdmurray> okay, I'll do the same for the SRU then
[17:15] <thekorn> super
[17:17] <bdmurray> Have you thought about the debbugs e-mail I sent a bit ago?
[17:18] <thekorn> no, sorry, not yet, will do it tonight
[17:18] <bdmurray> okay, thanks!
[17:38] <bddebian> Boo
[17:45] <qense> aaargh!
[17:45] <qense> hello bddebian
[17:46] <bddebian> :)
[17:47] <savvas> hey, where should I file a bug about typos in Packages.gz / Packages.bz2 ?
[17:50] <savvas> for example, in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 at "Package: xfce4-battery-plugin", it says "Origianl-Maintainer:" instead of "Original-Maintainer:"
[17:50] <bdmurray> you'd fill the bug about that package
[17:52] <savvas> it's going to be a looong night.. :)
[17:54] <savvas> bdmurray: how do we call this info? deb package info?
[17:54] <bdmurray> savvas: I confirmed it via 'apt-cache show PKGNAME'
[17:56] <savvas> ok, but how do we call this info collectively?
[17:56] <savvas> "xfce4-battery-plugin - typo in deb package information" sounds a good title ?
[17:57] <bdmurray> yes, that sounds like a good title to me
[17:57] <savvas> ok thanks
[17:59] <savvas> hm.. I'll have to try them all, not to file separate bug reports for the same typos, brb
[18:48] <Ubuntuuser> Hello i am new here i was woundering if smoeone could help me with a new install issue of ubuntu i just installed it and it wont see my wireless drviers but it says its supported and should automatically be detected
[18:50] <Ubuntuuser> is there anyone here?
[18:50] <qense> Ubuntuuser: the support channel for Ubuntu is at #ubuntu :) this channel is for the managing of bugs
[18:51] <Ubuntuuser> if it is suppose to be automatically detected and is not is that not a bug?
[18:54] <Tyfius> how or where can I report a launchpad question that does not belong there?
[18:54] <Tyfius> or mark it as invalid
[18:54] <qense> Ubuntuuser: could be, but this channel is used by the team that manages the bugs and makes sure bugs are marked properly and complete for the developers
[18:55] <qense> for supportive questions you can go to #ubuntu or #ubuntu-{langcode(like nl,fr)}
[18:55] <qense> if you want to report a bug you can do that at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
[18:56] <Ubuntuuser> ok sorry qense i will try
[18:56] <qense> np :)
[18:56] <Ubuntuuser> thanks for the info
[18:56] <qense> we get a lot of people asking for support
[18:56] <Ubuntuuser> i would imagine
[18:57] <Ubuntuuser> perhapps it should be re-worded or suggested in the help forums to go to the other channel er perhapps i missed it
[18:57] <Ubuntuuser> but anyhow thank you
[18:57] <qense> how did you find this channel?
[18:57] <Ubuntuuser> i click on a link to see supported wireless cards matched the numbers
[18:58] <Ubuntuuser> then it said if it wasnt detected and should be its a bug to go here
[18:58] <qense> it is indeed very likely a bug
[18:59] <Ubuntuuser> bahh all in good time i am a patient man i will figure it out im sure
[18:59] <qense> ok :) good luck. Did you try www.google.com/linux ?
[19:00] <Ubuntuuser> nope.
[19:40] <thi> hi guys
[19:41] <thi> have you a special strategy to find a package that you want to fix?
[19:48] <siretart> thi: look at bugs in your pet packages and start working :)
[19:50] <thi> so simple :-)
[19:51] <thi> do i have to use that developer release of ubuntu?
[19:57] <james_w> thi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/UsingDevelopmentReleases
[19:58] <thi> ok, thx
[20:49] <ionz2> is anyone familiar with gdal and hdf4 on hardy?
[21:01] <dieffel_> hi! Any of you have problems with playing .SRT subtitles with .AVI files in VLC ?
[21:11] <dieffel_> my VLC 0.8.6e does'nt autoload the subtitles. I've renamed the files very simply to 1.av & 1.srt, and they are placed in the same folder. It works perfectly if I specify the sub-file in the settings.
[21:12] <dieffel_> 1.avi & 1.srt that is.
[21:15] <kees> how do I subscribe people to a bug now?
[21:15] <kees> oh! there it is
[21:15] <kees> nm :)