[15:44] <jabone> hi guys
[15:53] <jabone> is there anyone even here?
[15:53] <sommer> this channel is usally pretty slow
[15:54] <jabone> haha its kind of looking like it :P
[15:54] <sommer> usually evenings in north america and europe are more liveley
[15:56] <jabone> yeah i kind of figured that
[15:56] <jabone> i'm in canada so its a holiday here =)
[15:56] <jabone> i was looking to start writing some documentation, but i think i found everything i needed on the website =)
[15:56] <sommer> party!
[16:00] <jabone> where are you at?
[16:01] <sommer> north carolina :)
[16:01] <jabone> oh nice...i have a few friends who live there...
[16:02] <sommer> it's pretty cool, at least where I am in Winston-Salem, heh
[16:03] <jabone> yeah ive heard its pretty nice
[16:10] <wallan> jabone: what are you going to work on?
[16:11] <wallan> just being nosey! i've only just started myself
[16:17] <jabone> hrmm not too sure yet
[16:18] <jabone> i'll volunteer...see what needs to be done most and do it!
[16:18] <jabone> i'm here half to learn some new things and to help out =)
[16:20] <wallan> fair enough!
[16:21] <wallan> have you looked here? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiToDo
[16:24] <jabone> no i havent
[16:24] <jabone> but now that i've checked it out
[16:24] <jabone> looks like a great place to start!
[16:25] <wallan> yeah, there's a few things on there
[20:51] <charlie-tca> Has anyone figured out how to make the floating menu appear correctly using the modern theme in the help wiki after it was upgraded to Moin 1.6?
[20:53] <charlie-tca> The TableOfContents is what I meant to say. It appears a little wrong at the present time.
[21:51] <wallan> i have a question!
[21:52] <wallan> does anyone have an opinion on the use of the word 'application', as opposed to 'software' or 'program'?
[21:52] <wallan> 'software' and 'application' seem to get used fairly interchangeably on the wiki, yet their meanings are a bit different
[22:27] <jabone> i look at an application as being a piece of software that perform a certain task...
[22:27] <jabone> software can be used for anything that runs in addition to the os
[22:29] <wallan> that's kind of what i thought - 'software' is a broader term
[22:30] <wallan> 'applications' is used on the gnome main menu, of course, so users may recognise it from there
[22:30] <wallan> i just started a RecommendedApplications page on the wiki
[22:30] <jabone> good idea
[22:31] <wallan> i had been wondering whether to call it RecommendedSoftware
[22:31] <jabone> a firewall would be a good suggestion for most users :)
[22:31] <jabone> i would go with software
[22:31] <jabone> but thats my own personal opinion
[22:31] <wallan> gah! too late!
[22:31] <wallan> :)
[22:31] <jabone> haha :)
[22:32] <wallan> here's the new page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecommendedApplications
[22:32] <wallan> it's still a little basic, but it's a start
[22:42] <jabone> opera would be good under the internet section
[22:42] <jabone> its my fave browser
[22:42] <jabone> and firestarter
[22:42] <wallan> add away! :)
[22:43] <wallan> i'm fairly sure that i've seen some threads in the forums devoted to recommendations. it would be good to get some of that content onto the page
[23:17] <wallan> can someone tell me how to get rid of the extra 'contents' text in the contents menu of this page?: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecommendedApplications