| === krag is now known as shazb0t | ||
| * shazb0t shrugs | 03:11 | |
| shazb0t | hello all | 03:17 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 06:33 |
| PseudoBob | Hey, anyone in here actually alive? | 08:43 |
| slytherin | PseudoBob: state you question | 08:45 |
| PseudoBob | Alrighty then. I was finally able to get javac working and now have a .class file sitting in my home user directory. The problem is, when I use java helloworld, it returns all sorts of errors. | 08:46 |
| persia | PseudoBob: The errors are likely to help you understand the issue with the class file. That said, you likely want ##java for java help; this channel is more about packaging Java applications for Ubuntu. | 08:47 |
| slytherin | PseudoBob: Short answer. Your home directory is not in class path, so you need to do 'java -cp . helloworld'. Long answer: ##java | 08:48 |
| PseudoBob | Hm, it says I can't join that channel. | 08:48 |
| persia | PseudoBob: You probably have to talk to nickserv and identify | 08:49 |
| slytherin | PseudoBob: Your nick need to be registered, if it is not already | 08:49 |
| PseudoBob | How does one do that? | 08:49 |
| PseudoBob | I'm new here, if you somehow couldn't tell... | 08:50 |
| slytherin | PseudoBob: type this message - /msg nickserv help register | 08:51 |
| PseudoBob | Alright, thank you very much. | 08:52 |
| PseudoBob | Have a nice life. | 08:52 |
| persia | PseudoBob: Good luck with your program | 08:52 |
| === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach | ||
| === larsh|away is now known as larsh | ||
| persia | robilad: The week for the meeting is underway. Have you selected a date? | 15:11 |
| robilad | it seems that we don't have a date with no overlap | 15:12 |
| persia | No, Just have to pick the best one. Did you ever get feedback from anyone other than dholbach, slytherin and I? | 15:16 |
| robilad | from marek slama, too | 15:16 |
| persia | If you can get yourself, slytherin, and mslama at the meeting, that's likely good. dholbach's interest is likely mostly about team-building and I'm scattered enough that I'm used to reading logs. | 15:17 |
| robilad | ok | 15:18 |
| robilad | so it looks like wed 4:00 pm utc is the easiest choice | 15:19 |
| robilad | from looking at http://www.doodle.ch/participation.html?pollId=fy7xd7hgrd59y7p5 | 15:19 |
| dholbach | which wed? tomorrow? | 15:19 |
| robilad | yes | 15:19 |
| dholbach | do we have doko? | 15:19 |
| robilad | not yet - doko? | 15:19 |
| dholbach | we should have had some small time in advance to announce it publicly | 15:19 |
| robilad | ok, then thu ? | 15:20 |
| persia | dholbach: Do you think it's worth delaying another week? I think two weeks is too much, but one could work. | 15:20 |
| robilad | 3-4 pm should work, too. | 15:20 |
| dholbach | Thursday would be fine too | 15:20 |
| dholbach | robilad: do you have any agenda items you'd like to discuss? | 15:21 |
| robilad | sure | 15:21 |
| dholbach | can you add them to the JavaTeam/Meetings page? | 15:21 |
| dholbach | looking at the fridge calendar: thursday looks better | 15:22 |
| doko | do we have a meeting? | 15:22 |
| dholbach | we're planning to kick off the ubuntu java team and discuss it with interested parties | 15:23 |
| persia | doko: We'll start having meetings. Thursday is the first. | 15:23 |
| dholbach | robilad: once we have a rough agenda, I can mail the ubuntu-news-team, ubuntu-devel and do a blog post - I guess that should be a good start | 15:24 |
| doko | UTC? | 15:24 |
| dholbach | yep | 15:24 |
| dholbach | doko: would 16:00 UTC Thursday work for you? | 15:25 |
| doko | until September sure | 15:25 |
| dholbach | oh, that'd be just for this thursday, then see how we do | 15:26 |
| robilad | yep | 15:26 |
| dholbach | I'd reckon that having an IRC presence in here (for those that are interested) and meetings every 2 weeks or some such would be good enough | 15:26 |
| * robilad invites dholbach, persia, doko, slytherin, man-di etc. to add items to the agenda on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaTeam/Meeting | 15:27 | |
| dholbach | robilad: let me know once you've added a few agenda items - the same goes for everybody else in here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaTeam/Meeting | 15:27 |
| dholbach | hehe | 15:27 |
| dholbach | then I can send out an announce | 15:27 |
| robilad | first ;) | 15:27 |
| dholbach | the agenda looks very good | 15:28 |
| * dholbach updates robilad: will there be other Sun folks who'll join in?/ | 15:28 | |
| dholbach | oops | 15:28 |
| * dholbach updates https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaTeam/Header | 15:28 | |
| robilad | marek | 15:29 |
| robilad | marek slama, he was at uds in praha | 15:29 |
| dholbach | right | 15:29 |
| robilad | he's a netbeans guy | 15:30 |
| dholbach | I remember him :) | 15:30 |
| dholbach | doko: anything to add to the agenda? | 15:31 |
| doko | dholbach: no | 15:32 |
| dholbach | alright | 15:32 |
| dholbach | I'll send out the announce then | 15:32 |
| dholbach | no mailing list yet, right? | 15:32 |
| slytherin | dholbach: I have one thing to add. | 15:32 |
| dholbach | slytherin: alright | 15:32 |
| slytherin | dholbach: Done. Please see if last item is fit for the meeting. | 15:35 |
| dholbach | slytherin: looks good | 15:36 |
| dholbach | will send out the announce in a sec | 15:36 |
| slytherin | I got to go. See you guys (and gals if any) tomorrow. | 15:36 |
| robilad | dholbach: where is the announce sent out to? | 15:37 |
| * robilad needs a to susbcribe a few more lists ;) | 15:37 | |
| dholbach | robilad: ubuntu-devel@ and ubuntu-news-team@ (so they fix the fridge calendar) | 15:37 |
| robilad | ok, thanks | 15:38 |
| dholbach | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2008-July/025692.html | 15:39 |
| dholbach | will blog about it too | 15:39 |
| persia | Is this really the first meeting? I thought there were a couple in Dapper and Edgy. | 15:40 |
| dholbach | does somebody have a java logo somewhere I can use in the post? | 15:40 |
| persia | Erm. Is Duke available for arbitrary badging? | 15:41 |
| robilad | https://duke.dev.java.net/ | 15:41 |
| robilad | duke's under BSD | 15:41 |
| robilad | so go wild | 15:42 |
| robilad | a duke with a ubuntu ring hula-hooping ;) | 15:42 |
| robilad | for example ;) | 15:42 |
| dholbach | ok... if there are any gimp specialists, feel free to send me such a pic :-) | 15:43 |
| dholbach | http://daniel.holba.ch/blog/?p=125 is the best I can do with the gimp :-))) | 15:43 |
| robilad | heh | 15:43 |
| persia | dholbach: Just grab your favorite duke pose then. | 15:44 |
| dholbach | check out http://daniel.holba.ch/blog/?p=132 and let me know if it's OK or I should fix something | 15:53 |
| dholbach | persia, doko, robilad: ^ | 15:53 |
| persia | Heh. Good duke choice | 15:53 |
| robilad | thanks, dholbach, looks great! | 15:54 |
| dholbach | gracias | 15:54 |
| dholbach | let's hope we get lots of interested folks and more hands on deck | 15:54 |
| dholbach | can we please update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Lists/ReferencePackages#Java ? | 15:55 |
| dholbach | I'm sure we have some packages that are good already and could serve as reference | 15:55 |
| dholbach | doko: do you know any good java packages that are easily understandable we could add there? | 15:55 |
| persia | Part of the issue there is that most of the interesting applications are large and unique, and lots of the rest are libraries. There aren't a lot of basic apps in the repos yet. | 15:56 |
| dholbach | we should really have an "easy app" and "easy module" one | 15:56 |
| persia | Hopefully OpenJDK in main lets the right flags be set that this is no longer true for intrepid. | 15:56 |
| doko | dholbach: hmm, it shouldn't be too simple ... | 15:57 |
| dholbach | doko: just something for orientation | 15:57 |
| dholbach | robilad, doko: any package at all you'd recommend? | 16:00 |
| robilad | off the top of my head, I think man-di had a few examples for new packagers in debian a while ago, I hope those apply for new ubuntu packagers, too | 16:03 |
| robilad | man-di: do you remember the list you gave me? i think commons-cli was on it? | 16:03 |
| persia | Packaging for Debian and Ubuntu ought be nigh identical: main differences are icedtea/openJDK related. | 16:05 |
| man-di | robilad: I dont remember about that but commons-cli is packaged since a long time | 16:27 |
| man-di | we had some trouble with it when we updated it from 1.0 to 1.1 | 16:27 |
| robilad | man-di: any packages you'd have in mind as 'beginner-friendly' resources for learning about doing it right? | 16:28 |
| man-di | robilad: asm3 perhaps | 16:29 |
| man-di | we have so much cludge in the packages, nothing is really beginner-friendly | 16:30 |
| man-di | and most beginners just miss the basic knowledge about stuff that make our packaging easier, debhelper, cdbs | 16:31 |
| chandru_in | hi, can I join the meeting on Thursday without adding my name to the list as I do not have any specific agenda for myself? | 18:47 |
| chandru_in | anyone here? | 18:51 |
| robilad | chandru_in: sure | 19:22 |
| robilad | it's an open IRC channel | 19:22 |
| chandru_in | thanks for the clarification robilad | 19:23 |
| chandru_in | I hope Java gains strength on top of Ubuntu | 19:23 |
| * robilad too | 19:23 | |
| chandru_in | Anyway was waiting only for the clarification. Hope to see you guys on Thursday. Bye. :) | 19:24 |
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