[01:32] I can't resolve www.smile.co.uk through `getent hosts www.smile.co.uk` but it resolves fine through `dig www.smile.co.uk` [01:33] nsswitch.conf reads "hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4" [01:33] resolv.conf lists 127.0.0.1 then my ISP's nameservers [01:33] dig @127.0.0.1 works fine, as does dig @ispnameserver [01:34] I'm not running nscd, I haven't installed it [01:34] Any suggestions other than rebooting? === [gquit]bombadil is now known as gquit|bombadil [02:15] hi all. has anyone here had systems where the installer gets an IP address, but your still told that network dhcp autoconfig failed and you hae to reconfigure? [02:50] New bug: #244406 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "File load data infile'file-name' fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/244406 [03:22] anyone know if i can have ubuntu server install on < 512mb flash? [03:31] good evening [03:32] anyone here have experience with ipmi serial over lan? [03:38] ipmi serial over lan, thats intense [03:38] i sort of have it working [03:39] i get all the boot messages [03:39] i get the login prompt [03:39] i can login [03:39] i get a login message [03:39] then the console locks up [03:40] its driving me nuts [03:40] are you pxe booting? [03:40] no [03:40] which version are you running? [03:41] i followed the instructions on this page which seemed pretty good execpt for the locking me out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPMI [03:41] 8,0.4 server [03:41] intel/amd 64bit [03:42] i honestly dont think anyone in here has the expertise [03:43] ipmi is kinda something only enterprise worries about [03:43] and for very specific tasks [03:44] enterprise? how about us poor people with large clusters of very cheap computers? [03:44] haha [03:44] openmosix, be happy [03:44] openmosix doesn't have ufw [03:45] i heard there is work on shared memory, but havent heard much of it [03:45] I thought openmosix was shut down. [03:45] kinda [03:45] there is still one or two hackers on it [03:46] anyway, ipmi is available on just about any computer you buy for a CO-LO. It adds about $50-100. It is better than a remote PDU because it gives you more functionality. [03:47] my servers all cost less than a $1000 and they all have IPMI [03:48] Pseudo clustering project --> https://launchpad.net/herd [03:49] so which chat has the IPMI people? === lamont` is now known as lamont === hessml is now known as hessml|away === hessml|away is now known as hessml [05:31] New bug: #244420 in openssh (main) "open ssh in Intrepid will not connect to my hardy ssh server." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/244420 [07:04] moin [07:04] moin [07:05] how do you tell gcc which linker to use, and not default to "ld" ? [07:06] * kgoetz looks at ebox and wonders what he thinks [07:06] An internal error has ocurred. This is most probably a bug, relevant information can be found in the logs. An internal error related to a template has occurred. This is a bug, relevant information can be found in the logs. [07:06] :| not a lot is the answer === hessml is now known as hessml|away === philsf_ is now known as philsf [11:32] * \sh is stupid somehow [11:33] <\sh> did anyone has a running config for moinmoin on hardy? [11:33] <\sh> s/did/does/ [11:36] <\sh> damn..solved [11:45] I have setup openvpn and it woks fine, Im useing it now. I was wondering if there was a way I could send port specific data across a tun connection insted of static routes for things like irc, aim, msn exct [11:45] I dont want to make a static route for every irc server that I would like to connect to [11:46] perhaps by port [11:47] use iptables on your gateway to point it over the vpn [11:49] how will the client know to route the port to the vpn device and not the inet device [11:49] is vpn running on your local machine? [11:50] iptables mangle rules? [11:50] apply a fwmark [11:51] and then use ip rule to match the fw mark and lookup a different routing table (e.g. vpn table, where the default gw is via your vpn) [11:52] iirc, -t mangle -I PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 6667 -j fwmark --fwmark 2, would add fwmark #2 to any data going over port 6667 [11:52] s/over/to/ [11:52] google knows better [11:53] dont know what to look for [11:53] see the first three things i said [11:53] iptables, mangle, fwmark, ip rule (part of the iproute package) [11:54] hell, first hit on google for iptables fwmark looks relevant, bon appetit :) [11:55] Thanks for pointing me in the right direction [12:02] now just to find iptables for windows :( [12:05] heh, windows, forget about it [12:05] you're also asking the wrong channel too [12:05] this is #ubuntu-server, not #openvpn or #windows [12:06] the server is ubuntu [12:06] and openvpn is running on there? [12:06] the server side [12:06] your client side needs to be ubuntu too [12:06] or at least, linux [12:06] I know [12:07] My work computer cant be linux they wont let me [12:07] as your client side needs to know where to route the packets, and afaik windows doesn't have any tools that can do that [12:07] bummer [12:07] then i guess you're SOL for now then [12:07] well thanks for the help [12:07] if you're trying to get around work firewalls, my suggestion would be to use putty + dynamic ssh tunnel [12:07] which creates a local SOCKS proxy for you running on localhost: [12:07] and then tell whichever apps you wanna route around the firewall to use that socks proxy [12:08] I started out with that, the connection here is so poor that it drops out alot [12:08] my server is in Iowa and im in Romania [12:08] if you dont wanna route per ip, ssh tunnel over the pn [12:08] vpn [12:09] ok, That is a good thought [12:09] it's absolutely horrid and will lead to all sorts of nasties when dealing with dropped tcp packets if your vpn is tcp rather than udp [12:09] will give that a try [12:09] but then your vpn shouldn't be any more reliable than your ssh connection if it's tcp anyway [12:09] it seems to be [12:10] alternatively, cygwin + autossh could probably serve your needs too [12:11] it might have more to do with me changing to port 443 and the firewall is leaving my trafic alone now [12:11] tbh, this is now a ##windows problem. [12:12] with a posible linux solution :P [12:12] kaiser's right, but heh, gl finding someone in there with a clue of anything linux related. windows fanboys hate linux much like linux fanboys hate windows [12:14] Thanks for the help i have to get back to work [12:15] corp firewalls suck :| glad i dont have one at my current work [12:15] hehe i love them, the more restrictive the better [12:16] learn loads trying to break around them [12:16] there is that, but i learned heaps about windows, and i didnt really want to ;) [i also learned a lot about novell and braindead network design] [12:17] i still maintain that the ideal desktop is windows xp [12:17] with a ubuntu vm running in the second screen [12:17] or vice versa [12:17] it seems we disagree on that point [12:17] but i cant work without both [12:18] Each to their own [12:18] one key sticking point i remember from my last job was the complete fail of DFS under samba [12:18] but yeah, i wouldn't want many windows servers ;) [12:19] DFS? [12:19] distributed file system [12:20] raid over samba, i guess [12:20] ah, i see [12:20] remarkably easy to setup [12:20] many of the windows services are, and work surprisingly well on a small scale [12:21] if you can get them for free (or close to), it's ideal, as pretty much any numpty can come along and set up all sorts with a few button clicks [12:21] it's when you try to scale up and start having to pay MS's regular pricing that it stops being particularly useful [12:21] and/or want internet facing services i guess === emgent_ is now known as emgent [14:27] Happy Canada Day! [14:31] good morning! [14:32] Happy Canada Day! [14:40] Any reason an ftp user would be able to log in with /bin/bash as their shell but not /bin/false ? [14:41] yes there is [14:41] I'm using vsftpd [14:54] oh okay [15:03] figured it out /bin/false wasn't listed in /etc/shells [15:05] I like /bin/stfu better [15:16] Hi. Does anyone know where I can find a help channel for BitlBee? [15:32] Hey guys, how would I empty the 'Trash' via the shell? [15:33] Meh rm -rf .Trash-1000 works. [17:04] why don't i get postfix's default /etc/aliases file when i install it? [17:04] did the file already exist? it won't create one [17:04] who owns that file? [17:04] if i remove it and reinstall postfix, it creates it [17:04] "the admin" :-( [17:04] what package? [17:05] $MTA sort of owns it... I don't know of a single MTA that purges it on --purge [17:06] more to the point, exim4 doesn't [17:06] postfix doesn't either [17:06] and it's not attached to any package as a conffile [17:06] melter: right. I copied the behavior of exim4 [17:07] postfix has a nice default file containing aliases for abuse, operator, etc., but none of that gets put into the /etc/aliases file [17:07] ah, you mean upstream postfix? [17:07] yes [17:08] and that's the way it works in gentoo, too [17:08] yeah - I've never grabbed that.. maybe I should [17:08] also, the main.cf file is misconfigured by default because if dhclient bugs [17:08] *because of [17:08] could you smack a bug into either launchpad or debian's bts asking that the upstream aliases file be delivered on virgin install (or at least something based on it) [17:09] misconfigured in what way? [17:09] there's a bug in dhclient that causes it to sometimes not set the hostname provided by the dhcp server [17:10] sounds like a dhcp bug, not a postfix bug... :( [17:10] so if i set my hostname to "foo" when i installed, it should be overwritten when i boot, but it doesn't [17:10] by default, postfix uses gethostname to get the hostname [17:11] but ubuntu re-configures it to foo.example.com, which doesn't exist [17:11] except that the postfix postinst sets myhostname == fqdn [17:11] nealmcb: about the oscon question, i have just checked my dates and i will be on the states just after the oscon :( [17:11] so i can't make it [17:11] since historically asking glibc for fqdn got you just the first component.. thanks glibc [17:12] nxvl: too bad - looks like a good one [17:12] yes [17:12] but i have already ask for my vacations, and have the flight tickets and all [17:13] does anyone know how to turn off dhclient? would uninstalling it work? [17:14] network managler kind of likes dhclient [17:14] OTOH, just configuring the interface in /etc/network/interfaces would do that [17:14] also, why does hardy ship with such an old version of dhcpcd? [17:14] as in telling it 'inet static' with the right stuff, instead of 'inet dhcp' === folke is now known as afk_away [17:16] I don't even have a dhcpcd on my machine that I can find... [17:16] it's not installed by default, but 3.0.18 has a bug fix i need [17:16] and ubuntu ships with 3.0.17 [17:17] that would be because 3.0.17 was the current (debian) version at the time that the freeze for hardy hit [17:17] intrepid has 3.2.3-1.1 [17:17] i know, i already tried it :) [17:17] i wish i could put it on production machines right now :) [17:18] "old" equates to < 3 months old at release date, which by most schedules is still pretty shiny-new [17:18] most commercial schedules, that is [17:19] afk for a nit [17:19] bit, even [17:20] i'm pretty sure 3.0.18 was out more than just 3 months ago [17:23] * delcoyote hi [17:25] what's ubuntu-minimal? is it ok to remove it? [17:28] melter: if you wan't to wipe your install, sure [17:29] melter: minimal is the smallest set of packages to have ubuntu boot... [17:31] so if i let apt-get remove it when i uninstall dhcp3-client, that would be a bad thing [17:37] ScottK: i find my descriptions very clear [17:37] ScottK: don't you? [17:38] nxvl: I'd have to look again. [17:39] * ScottK is in a phone meeting right now. === bdmurray_ is now known as bdmurray [19:06] buenos tardes [19:07] hola [19:07] kirkland__: buenAs tardes [19:07] :D [19:07] nxvl: :-) [19:09] * kirkland__ votes for a UDS on the Mayan Riviera [19:09] * lukehasnoname Houston, Texas [19:09] kirkland__: i'm trying to make all of you come to peru [19:10] Great... smog and.... green water [19:10] kirkland__: to see how it is like in the reality [19:10] :P [19:10] *lukehasnoname couldn't be more wrong [19:10] how so [19:10] nxvl: peru sounds great [19:11] * ogra still waits for the iceland UDS ... free natural hot tubs everywhere and good beer [19:12] kirkland__: Have y'all ever thought about how awesome technology is that there are undersea cables connecting us? [19:14] lukehasnoname: agreed. Neal Stephenson's Cryptonomicon has an interesting storyline about undersea cables [19:14] how am I wrong about Houston? [19:15] lukehasnoname: no, you're right, Houston's coastline sucks [19:15] heh [19:15] lukehasnoname: I'm talking about the Yucatan Pennisula, Carribean side [19:15] Houston != Mayan Riviera, not sure where you got that from [19:15] I like Houston, and I love the coast, but our water isn't the clearest [19:15] as in, it's opaque [19:16] but I still play in it [19:18] Lima is in the coast [19:18] :D [19:20] what's the proper way to remove dhcp3-client? "apt-get remove dhcp3-client" will also remove ubuntu-minimal [19:21] ubuntu-minimal is just a metapackage [19:21] to install more other packages [19:21] so it doesn't hurt to remove ir [19:21] it [19:22] nxvl, that's not what nijaba said earlier [19:22] "if you wan't to wipe your install, sure" [19:23] "minimal is the smallest set of packages to have ubuntu boot..." [19:24] yes [19:24] but ubuntu-minimal is just a metapackage [19:24] the rationale is: [19:24] if some package tries to remove ubuntu-minimal it is needed [19:24] but if you want to remove it for some reason [19:24] Meaning it's likea shopping cart of packages. Once you put the packages in the pantry (your computer) you dont' need the cart [19:24] is up to you [19:25] the problem here is dhcp3-client not ubuntu-minimal [19:25] :D [19:25] nxvl, YES [19:25] i mean [19:25] the one who will break you system [19:26] lukehasnoname: exactly [19:35] must... learn... LDAP... [19:37] l33t [19:48] So... find a book on it. [19:48] I know [19:49] don't hate, jpds [19:49] lol [19:54] kees: jdstrand: what would you answer to bug 244406 ? [19:54] Launchpad bug 244406 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 "File load data infile'file-name' fails" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/244406 [19:57] mathiaz: I agree with the "Won't Fix", but might guide him on how to add /var/www to the profile rather than just going with complain mode [19:57] mathiaz: this statement is false: "mysqld already applies the necessary restriction and that the apparmor restriction is redundant" [19:58] mathiaz: in the very limited scope of what he is trying to do, that is correct, but considering mysqld as a whole, it is not accurate [20:02] mathiaz: I've got nothing to add. :) jdstrand covered it with the "add what you need" part. People will slowly get used to the extra MAC systems, and they just need to add more perms. [20:19] <[diablo]> evening #ubuntu-server [20:19] <[diablo]> guys, xen / ubuntu 8.04 related q's [20:19] <[diablo]> ? [20:19] <[diablo]> #? [20:23] !ask | [diablo] [20:23] [diablo]: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-) [20:23] <[diablo]> !ask sarcasm [20:23] Sorry, I don't know anything about ask sarcasm [20:23] <[diablo]> ;) [20:24] <[diablo]> ok.. well, I've been using KVM for quiet some time, maybe near 1 year... Today I started with new company, and their very into Xen ... I had a proper headache with 8.04 (x64) and xen [20:25] <[diablo]> broken packages [20:25] <[diablo]> no intel graphics support [20:25] <[diablo]> when booting xen kernel [20:25] <[diablo]> now I know (and I completely agree with) that Ubuntu is geared towards KVM [20:26] hey i need a litle help [20:26] I'm installing on my ubuntu hasrdy a Lamp server but the phpmyadmin isn't working it can't find it :( [20:26] <[diablo]> but should I drop for the moment even the idea of getting Xen running nicely in Ubuntu? [20:26] <[diablo]> I'm assuming less attention is going to be paid to the fixes and patches than KVM [20:28] <[diablo]> here @ home.. I installed xen on my Q6600 box .... the nvidia drivers seem not to have been built around the xen kernel... [20:28] <[diablo]> it's a touch frustrating to use nv [20:29] <[diablo]> VilasBoas, you 'cant find it' [20:29] <[diablo]> ? [20:29] * [diablo] advises VilasBoas to look under his bed [20:29] Diablo: do you whant to go ......... [20:29] <[diablo]> VilasBoas, you've installed it right? [20:31] yes i have but when i go to http://localhost/phpmyadmin it appears black [20:31] <[diablo]> black? [20:32] yes black [20:33] <[diablo]> you checked the apache logs? [20:34] if it is working [20:34] the apache logs [20:34] <[diablo]> any messages [20:35] it's working [20:35] <[diablo]> but look in the logs [20:35] <[diablo]> it must say something [20:35] how can i do that? [20:35] <[diablo]> erm [20:36] <[diablo]> in the /var/logs/apache [20:36] i was folling the instrutions in http://www.guiaubuntupt.org/wiki/index.php?title=Ubuntu_hardy [20:36] <[diablo]> no idea, i don't follow tutorials to do things like that [20:36] of how to install a lamp server [20:36] :( [20:37] <[diablo]> VilasBoas, I assume there is some documentation on the ubuntu site [20:38] <[diablo]> a LAMP is more than common [20:39] ok thank you [20:39] :( [20:40] <[diablo]> VilasBoas, https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/index.html [20:40] <[diablo]> a start? [20:41] <[diablo]> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-804-hardy-heron-lamp-server-setup.html [20:41] <[diablo]> maybe too [20:43] <[diablo]> VilasBoas, tengo que pasar mi perro... adios [20:43] adios diablo and thanks === RoAk is now known as RoAkSoAx [21:17] how can I log the access.log from apache to mysql database? [21:27] hello [21:27] sourcemaker : why you wanna explode your mysql database? ;) [21:30] LMJ: that's right :-) [21:30] sorry, gtg [21:30] CU [21:37] soren: did you have a amd64 machine near you? [21:40] or does anyone has a amd64 machine on hands and wants to build and run lintian on a package for me [21:45] nxvl: sure put it somewhere I can get it [21:49] zul: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/revu1-incoming/augeas-0807012110/augeas_0.2.0-0ubuntu1.dsc [21:49] nxvl: I have nothing but amd64 machines anymore. [21:50] * soren builds [21:50] soren: my brain is in reverse mode and english not my native lenaguaje, have you just said that you only have amd64 machines or that you don't have them anymore? [21:51] I only have amd64 machines. [21:52] \o/ [21:52] nxvl: host not found [21:52] what? [21:52] http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=augeas [21:52] Worked for me.. [21:52] for me to [21:52] zul: check you dns [21:53] nxvl: nm it hicked up [21:53] Weird, my intrepid schroot is b0rken. [21:57] need to go to the classroom, be back in 10 minutes [22:01] i have a big problem i was trying to install a LAmp server but when i try to open a php file the firefox ask me if i what to save or to open the script [22:02] can anyone please help me [22:05] ok back [22:05] any results? [22:08] I set up a hardy server and install gnome. I want to add a printer to be able to share it and printers doesn't show up under the control panel... [22:09] can someone point me in the right direction? [22:15] nxvl: Worked for zul. [22:16] nxvl: I'm building on intrepid now. I failed on hardy. [22:16] joebob777as7: #ubuntu [22:17] VilasBoas: Your apache server isn't interpreting your php files. Restart apache, and try again after you've completely restarted your web browser. [22:17] They have an annoying tendency to cache mimetypes. [22:19] nxvl: zul didn't have any lintian warnings either, by the way. [22:20] \o/ [22:20] nxvl: By the way: I know that norsetto found some mistakes in your copyright file, but I have to say I was impresed at the copyright file that was already there. [22:20] * nxvl HUGS soren and zul [22:20] yeah, i fixed thos warning already [22:21] soren: thanks! i was trying to have it really explicit [22:21] Yeah. Good job. [22:21] Sometimes I think getting the copyright file right is the hardest part of packaging. :) [22:22] yes [22:22] not the hardest, but the teduis [22:23] It's the area where I most often find problems in a package after another MOTU has given it a +1. [22:23] yeah, we are developers, not lawyers, so most people focus more on techical things [22:24] OTOH, it's a wonderland for the pedantic. I've found debian/copyright problems in packages put up for review by an archive admin. [22:34] ScottK: Heheh :) [22:34] * soren wanders off [22:51] soren: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=augeas <- 0.2.1 is out [23:02] i'm trying to tunnel to my cups shared printer at my office. Here is the command i'm running, ssh -L 1234:localhost:631 joe@myoffice.com when i go add the printer it doesn't show up anywhere how can i figure out the device uri to tupe in cups?