[00:03] TheSheep: End Process in System monitor did the job. Normally I can unmount the device without that. === gaurdro is now known as themuffinman === themuffinman is now known as gaurdro [01:25] Anyone here have experience with Dual-Screen on Xubuntu? [01:49] can i use compiz with xubuntu? [01:50] no clue [01:52] does anyone have a clue? [01:56] !compiz [01:56] Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion === Odd-rationale_ is now known as Odd-rationale [02:03] i have no window manager1 [02:04] i installed ubuntu server and then added the xubuntu-desktop. [02:04] i get a normal xubuntu login screen then the heron wallpaper and a terminal but no window manager [02:06] apparently no one is in here [02:06] :( [03:04] how to enable beep sound in xfce4-terminal? [03:46] ok, how do i install xubuntu on the alternate cd? [03:46] i don't know any commands [03:46] so i need a tutorial of some kind [03:46] i need to resize my partitions [03:46] and i dont' know if i should just format C with the partitioner [03:47] start windows with the boot up disk [03:47] or just stick in the xubuntu alternate cd and re-do the partitions [03:47] which seem messed up [03:47] help [03:54] i am downloading [03:54] now xubuntu via wubib [03:54] wha is the main differences of xubuntu? [03:54] what do i pay attention? [04:04] it doesnt have gui network browser by default [04:08] that mens [04:08] means [04:08] ? [04:08] firefox or other [04:08] or fileviewer [04:09] for network shares [04:09] can i install dolphin [04:09] or something like that [04:09] for network browsing [04:09] or samba [04:09] ? [04:10] samba works on it ? [04:36] why if installed xubuntu in spanish , the about xubuntu , it's in english?? [05:51] hello? [05:51] anybody home? [08:03] help, someone just helped me install xubuntu after installing an old version of ubuntu, 5.10 to be specific, i am already on xubuntu and it's the first time i'm on it [08:03] i've a few questions, first is [08:03] how do i move the bar whre the windows accumulate to the bottom of the screen [08:05] if your right click on the area you can choose move [08:06] i tried that [08:06] nothing shows up when i right click on the upper task bar [08:07] i canmove the panel from the bototm [08:07] but i can't seem to move the taskbar down [08:10] ok [08:10] i was able to move the taskbar down [08:10] however the panel's now in the way [08:12] what is the name of the shell emulator [08:12] and how do i get rid of the gnome [08:13] i'm looking at this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE [08:13] but i don't know where i should type that in === ezra_ is now known as Nicekiwi9 [08:28] hiya =D [08:29] how do i setup system proxy setting on Xubuntu 8.04? [08:30] and how do i browse a home network? [08:52] Nicekiwi9: you set an environment variable [08:52] Nicekiwi9: thre is no gui [08:53] how do i do that? [08:53] Nicekiwi9: what do you mean by "browse home network"? [08:53] well how do i broswe a network? [08:53] there is a fileserver on my home network, howdo i gain access ot it? [08:54] Nicekiwi9: what protocol does it use? [08:54] http [08:54] or well... im not sure what u mean [08:54] if it's http, then just use firefox [08:54] its a linux server.. i assume its using samba [08:54] !smb [08:54] Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT. [08:55] !fusesmb [08:55] Sorry, I don't know anything about fusesmb [08:55] :/ [08:55] yes samba is installed.... [08:55] Nicekiwi9: you can use smbclient from the command line, or mount it using fusesmb, there should be howtos on the forum [08:56] so theres no gui for browsing the network? [08:56] no, by default there is no gui for browsing Microsoft Windows network [08:56] there is in Ubuntu [08:57] its not a MS network.... [08:57] it is [08:57] how so? :S [08:57] to set proxy, you can use the command: export http_proxy = http://exmaple.com:port [08:58] or you can put it in /etc/environ to have it always like that [08:59] what do i do to the enviroment file? [08:59] just add this? export http_proxy = http://exmaple.com:port [09:00] with the appropriote IP [09:00] without the export [09:00] case is important [09:01] howdo i open it with root clearance? [09:01] how do i put a shortcut on the desktop? [09:09] i'm having trouble finding the number symbol [09:09] and the at sign [09:09] they don't even show in character map [09:20] hi [09:24] ? [09:24] how do i make a shortcut or add a folder to the desktop [09:25] and how do i type the at sign and the number sign [09:25] i can't even find them in the character map === zoredache_ is now known as zoredache [09:29] zoredache [09:29] can you help me? [09:45] DistroJockey: can you help me? [09:45] CostaRicanQuaker, installed, but not tried it yet :) [09:46] well here's the deal, i can't type the at sign or the number sign or the tilde sign and i can't find them in the caharcter map [09:46] CostaRicanQuaker, was to create location on desktop right? [09:46] that too [09:47] CostaRicanQuaker, ohh, and shift+7 etc. doesn't exist or work? [09:47] shift + 7 =/ [09:47] @ = shift+2 for me [09:48] # = shift+3 [09:48] ~ = shift+` [09:48] nope [09:48] is there a way to change my keyboard [09:48] i think i isnstalled it to spanish [09:49] yeah, not exactly sure how though [09:50] how about to create a folder on my desktop? [09:50] that is actuallyon my esktop i mean i already created a folder but it doesn't show on my desktop [09:50] I'll switch to Xfce and take a look. Not tried it yet [09:50] brb [09:52] dorry about that [09:54] CostaRicanQuaker, well, first, I can change language at the login screen by changing the Options [09:55] the language is english [09:55] but the installation keyboard default [09:55] was spain's [09:56] CostaRicanQuaker, I just created a created a Launcher on my desktop to go to my /home/distro/Downloads folder [09:56] how did oyu do that? [09:57] CostaRicanQuaker, right-clicked desktop and chose Create Launcher , called it Downloads and entered thunar /home/distro/Downloads as the command [09:59] i can't see the create launcher option [09:59] you're also on xfce? [09:59] CostaRicanQuaker, right-click on your background wallpaper ? [10:00] yes [10:00] CostaRicanQuaker, aye, I just installed xubuntu-desktop and logged into Xfce for the first time [10:00] are you scottish? [10:00] nope :) [10:00] irish? [10:00] nope :) [10:00] cant see the option...where should it be [10:00] the launcher [10:01] maybe some ancestry but no, I'm Australian :) [10:01] cool [10:01] when I right click, it is the very top menu entry [10:01] mine says run program [10:02] well, that's not the default as far as I can see [10:02] underneath it says file manager [10:03] how come yours is different if we're on the same distro? [10:04] I get: Create Launcher... / Create URL Link... / Create Folder... / Create from Template and Desktop Settings... [10:04] how do i do that again? like do i have to go to the terminal? [10:04] nd type something [10:04] or [10:04] CostaRicanQuaker, can you post a pick of where you are right clicking? [10:04] run program? [10:04] pic^ [10:05] no, just right-click on your desktop wallpaper [10:05] or desktop rather [10:05] somewhere blank that has no icons or windows covering it [10:05] and how do i get a pic [10:05] and post it? [10:06] no idea sorry, heh [10:06] Print Scrn works in Gnome but not in Xfce it seems [10:09] DistroJockey: what do you usually use? [10:09] kde or gnome? [10:09] gnome [10:10] why do you use gnome over kde' [10:10] CostaRicanQuaker, cleaner, simpler (not that I need it simple) and kde 4 sux so far [10:11] CostaRicanQuaker, kde 3.5.9 is good and very configurable but, can be overkill [10:11] what's wrong with kde 4? [10:11] CostaRicanQuaker, it ain't ready by a long way [10:13] CostaRicanQuaker, and if you are looking for something lite gnome is a better option IMHO [10:13] would you use kde in a 2000 laptop? [10:13] see above :) [10:14] so thats a no [10:14] xfce looks pretty good, but I am not used to it, only been using it for 10 mins :) [10:14] ok so here's hte deal [10:14] wheni go to file manager [10:14] It will run, but probably slowly [10:14] and click on desktop [10:14] there's a fodler my stuff [10:14] but how come there's not an icon for it [10:15] on the desktop [10:15] when I said right-click desktop I don't mean in a file manager [10:15] i know, but the launcher option doesn't show up...like let me list what shows up when i right click on the desktop wallpaper [10:16] run program, terminal, file manager [10:16] hmm [10:17] I just went into Thunar and made a new Folder in /home/distro/Desktop and that shows on the desktop fine [10:19] can you help me get rid of xfce [10:19] and install kde instead? [10:20] CostaRicanQuaker, the only thing I can suggest is to go into Applications - Settings - Settings Manager and then go to Desktop and change the Behaviour [10:21] CostaRicanQuaker, sure, you can type in a terminal: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop (for KDE) or ubuntu-desktop (for Gnome) [10:23] CostaRicanQuaker, I had a standard Ubuntu (Gnome) install and did a sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop and here I am (after a logout and a change of Session :) ) [10:23] there installing kubuntu [10:23] :) [10:23] now i need your help [10:23] to get rid of xubuntu [10:23] and [10:23] may need to ask question about that in #kubuntu ;) [10:24] why remove it? [10:24] because i'm not going to use [10:24] it [10:24] I seem to have lost of all sound.. I don't get any errors just no sound [10:24] the only reaosn why i was going to use it was because my girlfriends laptop [10:24] is there a main system volume setting I can check?. [10:24] i was going to put xfce on hers as it's from around 2000 and i didnt wnat it to run too slow [10:24] CostaRicanQuaker, removing may break things, not sure though [10:24] but its currently on xp so its better than current anyway [10:25] lesshaste, maybe in a terminal: alsamixer [10:25] CostaRicanQuaker, if it's running XP, Ubuntu or Kubuntu will be fine [10:26] DistroJockey, I can't see anything wrong there [10:26] well i hear that, if it's an old laptop apparently xp is not good for it [10:26] and she's already had trouble with it [10:26] so might as well [10:26] lesshaste, any mm 's in the appropriate channels? [10:27] CostaRicanQuaker, KDE is closer to Windows in initial config, but Gnome is simpler and IMHO better [10:27] hmm [10:28] Hello, i'm having trouble using different sections. I've installed a Ubuntu, but on top of that I've installed the xubuntu-desktop environment. But when I want to use the xcfe sessions or xscript sessions I just get a plain black with an x as a cursos, nothing is happening, [10:29] DistroJockey: someone just linked me to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE [10:29] microwaver, I just installed xubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu install and it works fine so far [10:30] DistroJockey, i've been using it the whole week (works better than the gnome looking at performance) and now it just doesn't work anymore. [10:30] DistroJockey, what is mm? [10:30] CostaRicanQuaker, that doesn't suit you if you started with Xubuntu [10:30] lesshaste, muted [10:30] DistroJockey, i've been rm'ing the .cache/sessions/ items, probably that caused the problems. [10:30] DistroJockey, not that i can see... [10:30] I am going to try something drastic [10:30] rebooting into windows :) [10:31] lesshaste, Nooooo! ;) ok, if you must ;) [10:31] microwaver, not familiar with that location and it's affects sorry [10:32] any other reasons why my xubuntu environment won't be working, [10:32] microwaver, been using Xfce for 20 mins and most of that time has been here in Xchat :) [10:32] DistroJockey, ok then [10:34] microwaver, ~/.cache/sessions seems to be only for Thunar for me so far [10:35] DistroJockey: i just asked how to get rid of xubuntu and all its packages, i will do that as soon as kubuntu's downloaded [10:35] DistroJockey, there were 4 sessions in it. Thunar, 2 xcfe sessions and another thingy [10:35] DistroJockey, I deleted them all :P [10:35] CostaRicanQuaker, k, good luck [10:35] however [10:36] i still need to make a partition [10:36] to free up some space [10:36] to reinstall windows [10:36] microwaver, has to be a wider issue [10:36] xp [10:36] CostaRicanQuaker, yeah, that partedmagic cd should do the job [10:37] now to burn it [10:37] what program do i use [10:37] since you're also on xfce [10:38] CostaRicanQuaker, or if you can afford to lose Xubuntu, do a clean install of XP to the drive using only the space you need and install Kubuntu/Ubuntu to the remaining free/unpartitioned space [10:38] no way [10:38] i had to install ubuntu from an old old old cd [10:38] CostaRicanQuaker, in Applications - Multimedia I have Brasero [10:38] then withsomeone elsee's help [10:38] i have graveman [10:39] that should do the job [10:39] but i don't see how to burn an image with it [10:39] and i think the partitioner should be an image right [10:39] yep, need to burn iso's as an image [10:40] CostaRicanQuaker, sudo apt-get install brasero [10:40] CostaRicanQuaker, should work fine [10:40] it's still installing kubuntu though [10:41] CostaRicanQuaker, unless it askes you to get heaps of Gnome stuff [10:41] CostaRicanQuaker, you should get K3B with Kubuntu, if you don't, install it [10:42] CostaRicanQuaker, sudo apt-get install k3b when kubuntu-desktop is done [10:42] hmm [10:42] i got a dos like screen [10:42] any errors? [10:43] http://paste.ubuntu.com/24173/ [10:44] pick either Xfce or KDE as the default I guess [10:44] http://paste.ubuntu.com/24174/ [10:45] kdm = KDE gdm = Gnome [10:45] go kdm [10:45] not sure why gdm is listed if you started with xubuntu though [10:46] kdm [10:46] well the reason's this [10:46] i couldn't install xubuntu nor kubuntu [10:46] both from the live and alternate cds [10:46] that i had burned [10:46] because htey were giving me errors [10:47] so i tried an oldold ubuntu cd [10:47] and from there upgraded [10:47] and then got xubuntu [10:47] and got rid of gnome [10:47] which was still the login screen [10:47] i did this with someone's help [10:47] intelikey on one of these chatrooms [10:47] I very much dislike upgrades [10:47] things often break [10:48] welli had no other option [10:48] aye [10:48] all of my cdrs weren't working [10:48] even the one i got from a torrent [10:48] which is suposed to be safe from corruption [10:48] CostaRicanQuaker, burn them at the slowest speed possible after checking the md5sum of the iso [10:49] well i'm not doing this anymore [10:49] i'm just going to keep kde [10:49] and hopefully burn an image formy girl's laptop [10:49] otherwise [10:49] for future reference :) [10:49] just do the same [10:49] ok what was the command to get k3b again? [10:50] CostaRicanQuaker, if you can wait 4 weeks, request a CD from shipit.ubuntu.com [10:50] CostaRicanQuaker, sudo apt-get install k3b [10:51] CostaRicanQuaker, btw: 8.04.1 will be released in 2/3 days [10:51] it says it was already installed (ist aht good or bad?) [10:51] and what was the command to get rid of xubuntu? [10:51] CostaRicanQuaker, that be good [10:52] not sure on that one, but you could take a look at the following in a terminal: sudo tasksel [10:52] and use the spacebar to un * xubuntu desktop [10:53] CostaRicanQuaker, I'd burn your CD first though [10:53] oh that's right [10:53] oh wait [10:53] i already deleted the xubuntu [10:53] now what do id o? [10:54] run k3b I guess [10:54] oh wit [10:54] i gotta log out [10:54] and log back in right? [10:55] brb [10:55] may not need to, and might be better if you don't [10:55] let me see [10:55] ok [10:55] opened k3b [10:56] it's a nice program [10:56] ok [10:56] don't have it atm, so don't ask me how to use it ;P [10:57] I guess I'll install kubuntu-desktop while I'm at it :) [10:57] ok [10:58] only 205MB to download :) [10:59] I'll be done in 20 mins :) [11:06] DistroJockey: do you know how to use partition magic? [11:06] i basically need to use some of the space thats' free on the desk [11:06] disk [11:07] to use it for the ntsf windows partition [11:07] CostaRicanQuaker, nope, but I know how to use gparted [11:08] link me to gparted for an iso file [11:08] CostaRicanQuaker, you want to try and install Windows in unpartitioned space that is not at the start of the disk? [11:08] well thats' the thing [11:08] it doesn't have that option [11:08] CostaRicanQuaker, I did earlier was called pertedmagic [11:08] it shows only the nig partition and it says [11:09] CostaRicanQuaker, no, it's not possible [11:09] partedmagic^ [11:09] well [11:09] it says [11:09] pmagic [11:09] maybe you're right [11:09] maybe i'm confusing it [11:09] i jsut burned the iso for it [11:10] now i need to create some free space [11:10] partition magic is a non free software [11:10] you were theone who linked me to parted magic right? [11:10] Windows will want the free space to be at the start of the disk [11:10] yep [11:11] well the thing is it only shows two partitions when i boot up with windows xp cd [11:11] one is [11:11] the huge partition [11:11] in which kubuntu is now [11:11] and has the option of using that wholething [11:11] and otherwise the swap [11:11] so you tell me [11:12] yeah, it won't be easy and may not even be possible [11:12] It is usually better to install Windows first and then a buntu [11:13] maybe google for: how to install windows after installing ubuntu [11:14] or do it the other way round [11:15] here's the first link (maybe it can be of some help): http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=384355 [11:17] install windows, format partition then run gparted or partedmagic and make free space for ubuntu to reinstall it to upgrade to kubuntu again? [11:18] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows [11:18] CostaRicanQuaker, no, when installing Windows, leave some unpartitioned space for buntu and it's swap [11:19] then you won't need partedmagic [11:19] ok so let me see if i get it correctly [11:19] i go and install windows [11:19] on the big partition [11:19] formatting everything [11:20] then i installubuntu again [11:20] and you promise you will help me [11:20] upgrade to kubuntu again [11:20] aren't you supposed to find a xcfe section on the usr ? [11:20] well, not quite. When installing Windows, tell it to delete all partitions and then tell it to create a space for itself that is smaller than the drive's size [11:21] oh like 60 gb ntsf only? [11:21] CostaRicanQuaker, yeah [11:21] CostaRicanQuaker, then you should have unpartitioned space that buntu can use happily [11:22] ok wait for me here man i'll brb [11:23] CostaRicanQuaker, I have a beer left, I'll be here :) [11:30] Hello aren't you supposed to find the different gui packs on the usr map? like /usr/share/gnome can't seem to find the xcfe one [11:32] microwaver, how about /usr/share/xfce4 [11:34] DistroJockey, yup is there. thanks. strange thing is, WHY WON'T IT FRIGGIN LOAD :p [11:34] microwaver, what are you trying to do? [11:34] trying to load xubuntu :) [11:34] microwaver, ohh, right [11:35] how do I remove gnome completeley :p [11:35] microwaver, there is also /usr/share/xfwm4 [11:36] microwaver, not sure, never done it. But I do like the tasksel tool: sudo tasksel [11:36] DistroJockey, does it deinstall as well? [11:36] (handy thing) [11:36] microwaver, I guess you hit space to un * ubuntu desktop [11:36] microwaver, should [11:37] DistroJockey, none of the ubuntu things are checked ? [11:37] microwaver, it may not do a complete removal though [11:37] DistroJockey, only xubuntu is checked, tho I'm using gnome atm [11:38] microwaver, then I guess tasksel is not all knowing [11:39] microwaver, do you get a terminal if you do a Alt [11:39]