[00:01] hi... i'd like to help with kubuntu... any easy piece of work for an newbie? :) [00:03] i go to bed, c ya have fun [00:22] mitsarionas: sure, a little bit late in europe. Probably yous hould ask another time, tomorrow [00:23] :( [00:24] (I should actually go to sleep too) [00:24] mitsarionas: me too [00:25] so it's mostly european people here? [00:25] mitsarionas: gn8 [00:25] 'night :) [00:30] mitsarionas: triaging bugs is a good place to help out [00:31] * JontheEchidna is american [00:31] But I have noticed that there are a ton of people from europe here [00:31] * vorian is american too [00:31] I think yuiry and nixternal are too [00:31] vorian: i'm more like in a packaging/coding mood... but if there's not any suitable work there, that could do [00:32] We always have work there [00:32] mitsarionas: have a look at the todo linked in the topic - maybe there is something for you [00:34] thanx, i'lll check them out [00:35] though i'm green on qt :S ...are these stuff sort of high -priority ones? [00:36] mitsarionas: yes [00:37] they all should get done for intrepid the next Kubuntu release [00:37] if somehow possible [00:38] so probably someone will get working with them before i'm up to speed :( [00:40] worth a try though... but if you think of something low priority that's possibly not going to be worked on please let me know [00:40] ubiquity pyqt4 -> pykde4 port was low-priority [00:41] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuIntrepidKDE4Porting [00:41] thanx [00:44] I believe that at this point in time we need all the coding help we can get. :x [00:45] i hope i'll be able to...though it might take me a while...(got exams these days too :(( ) [00:45] yeah, school bites [00:46] btw, what's the software of choice for kde development? [00:47] i'm doing my master actually...but it still bites :D [00:47] Junior year of high school [00:48] Finishing it up... then comes summer break [00:48] ! i feel old [00:48] Sorry, I don't know anything about i feel old [00:49] lol forgot about the bot [00:53] mitsarionas: don't feel too bad, I finished college over just 10 years ago [00:53] :P [00:54] Now you got all these youngins messing around in your ircs! [00:54] lol :D [00:54] * claydoh joins the old-farts brigade, keeping the young whipper-snappers in line [00:55] <= one year left till 30 [00:56] still young :) [00:56] more or less [00:56] its all relative [00:56] hehe [00:57] I work with kids, im old enough to be a parent to most [00:57] even to some of the adults [00:58] they say that makes you feel young again... [00:58] or maybe feel like shooting them :) [01:07] nope, I feel old *and* I want to shoot them :) [01:08] but thats not because of age [01:09] :D [01:10] so what software are you using for development? [01:26] is katapult for kde4 being worked on? [01:52] * JontheEchidna just uses Kate for the little thing he does [01:53] * JontheEchidna hasn't heard anything about a katapult for kde4 [01:53] Though it looks like KRunner might be headed in that general direction [01:55] yeah, actually krunner does pretty much what katapult did in kde3... just saw somewhere that katapult needed to be ported to kde4 [02:12] off to sleep... g'night channel...i'll bug you with more questions tomorrow :) === firephoto_ is now known as firephoto [09:28] someone with hardy and kde4 please rune apt-cache rdepends libkonq5-templates [09:30] Nightrose: ping [09:34] apachelogger: are you on intrepid? [09:34] yes [09:35] can you please tell me the version of nvidia-glx-new is in it? [09:35] Version: 169.12+2.6.24.12-16.34 [09:35] gnomefreak: ^ [09:36] apachelogger: thanks that is what i was afraid you would say [09:36] cool :D [09:36] yeah cool i dont have gui the day i need it [09:37] than since it looks like kernel resricted mods are not up to date [09:37] well [09:37] IIRC there was some problem with our current generic kernel and the nvidia driver [09:38] im seeing this [09:38] the versions are not running the same but were before i reinstalled [09:39] reinstalled because all apps were crashing and i finally gave up looking for the source of issue [09:39] we should all get intel chips and support their monopoly of neverending hardware power! [09:39] they at least got open drivers [09:40] lol true [09:40] i hate intel cards but its better than nothing on a day like today [09:42] oh wells, one day intel will try to beat amd/ati and nvidia out of the graphics card market and then we also get high-end solutions from intel ;-) [09:43] but being free its gonna be hard to do [09:43] paid projects normally have more money to throw at the devs. [09:44] not to say intel doesnt since they have been ripping people off for years with thier cpus [09:44] cpu chips [09:45] Nightrose, apachelogger: do you know a gsoc student called Casey Link? [09:46] Riddell: ramblurr in #amarok ... considering he is around [09:56] apachelogger: pong [09:56] Riddell: jep [09:56] Nightrose: see the line above the ping [09:57] ok [09:57] libkonq5-templates [09:57] Reverse Depends: [09:57] |libkonq5 [09:57] libkonq5 [09:57] libkonq5 [10:38] Nightrose: merci beaucoup [10:38] :) [10:40] hm [10:40] anyone with hardy and no kde4 ppa around? [10:41] apachelogger: ScottK maybe? [10:44] meh [10:47] Nightrose: apt-cache rdepends libkonq5 [10:48] apachelogger: http://pastebin.com/d47b2af0f [10:48] Oo [10:49] Nightrose: apt-cache show dolphin-kde4 [10:49] http://pastebin.com/d79384d09 [10:50] wtf [10:50] someone please explain bug 238337 [10:50] Launchpad bug 238337 in kdebase-kde4 "Dolphin crashes when clicking right mouse button in empty space" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/238337 [10:51] quote: [10:51] this command solve it for me: [10:51] apt-get install libkonq5-templates [10:51] libkonq5 depends -templates on hardy, hardy+kde41 and intrepid [10:51] and all versions of dolphin depend on libkonq5 [10:52] apachelogger: can't reproduce here btw [10:53] hm [10:53] no [10:53] that doesn't make sense [10:53] _no_ sense [10:54] Nightrose: of course you can't ... the mentioned package is installed because of deps [10:54] k [10:54] meh [10:55] * apachelogger dislikes the current situtation [10:55] we have 3 different packagings [10:55] awful [11:18] hardy.1 CD testers needed! [11:19] Riddell: I'm testing it right now [11:19] where to file bugs? [11:20] opps, sorry [11:20] it is in letter [11:26] Greetings Riddell , all [11:28] hi DistroJockey, take a look at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all and see what you can fill in [11:29] Riddell, k, will do [11:29] ISOs are at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hardy/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-kde4/hardy/ [11:56] mornin' [11:58] 'lo nixternal :) [12:03] http://www.nbc5.com/money/16764057/detail.html?dl=mainclick [12:03] ouch, thank god I 1) don't have citibank, and 2) don't use quick stop ATMs [12:04] oh, and 3) don't use Microsoft Windows with the remote assistance stuff enabled either :P [12:20] time to get ready for work :( [12:44] Riddell: OEM Setup is the installer without starting the live session? [12:53] apachelogger: no [12:53] "Install Kubuntu" second option at the gfxboot is the installer without starting the live session [12:54] apachelogger: I have Hardy and not very much KDE4 (I will confess to the kde-games-kde4 package and it's dependencies). [12:54] ScottK: already got the information, thanks anyway :) [12:56] ah [12:56] Riddell: found the OEM stuff [12:56] yay === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak [13:20] Nepomunk is in kdelibs, right? [13:27] mostly soprano [14:02] apachelogger, Nightrose: know a Peter ZHOU? [14:02] jep [14:02] Summer of code student [14:03] peterzl is his nick [14:03] thanks [14:03] :) [14:03] two planet requests in a day, someone must have leaked about my new powers [14:03] * Nightrose hands Riddell a cookie for taking care of it [14:04] hehe yea seems like it [14:04] * Jucato grins evily >:) === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [14:29] Riddell: did the wubi installation for kde4 ever work? [14:30] complains about root filesystem not being set [14:30] apachelogger: yes I think so [14:31] apachelogger: have you tried kde 3? [14:31] no [14:31] hrm [14:31] *downloading* [14:38] apachelogger: you can also try asking xivulon [15:55] Riddell: I was just running low on diskspace === coreymon is now known as coreymon77 [15:58] apachelogger: ok, phew [15:58] apachelogger: able to free some up so you can test wubi? [15:58] Riddell: it's configuring hardware right now [15:59] Riddell: we just did a wubi install yesterday with the .1 discs [15:59] nixternal: "we"? [15:59] I got a couple of people interested in Kubuntu here and nwo I am trying to form a gang to battle the Ubuntu people in here :) [16:00] ya, here at work [16:00] excellent [16:00] we have a couple of devs who want to play around, and wubi was perfect for them [16:00] right now the Ubuntu gang it about 20 deep, and the Kubuntu gang is, well just me right now :) [16:01] need to get one of those USB rocket launchers and start attacking [16:01] hm [16:01] launchpad -> usb rocket launchers -> kubuntu word domination [16:01] we see, launchpad is the key [16:01] hehe [16:07] hi [16:07] i got the email from the upstream [16:08] is the KDE4 version of power manager already in intrepid? [16:09] yuriy: should be, I let it through new yesterday [16:09] Riddell: what's the package for it? still guidance-power-manager? [16:09] err not still [16:10] k got it figured out [16:10] Riddell: the upstream of rubberband mentioned that a debian dev is working also on rubberband, the upstream asked if it be better to make a package across debian and ubuntu [16:11] does it already handle brightness keys? [16:13] apachelogger: alles wieder fit? [16:55] is it normal for intrepid KDE4 applications to have inaccessible menus? [16:55] you just can't access them, nothing happens when you click on them [16:56] not something I've seen [16:57] it still happens here, hardy machine immediately upgraded to intrepid [16:59] That's been happening lately on a hardy machine for me [17:14] also, konqueror is one crashing browser [17:14] really [17:14] I just click around for a while, on a normal site, and it crashes [17:14] (the KDE4 version) [17:18] mhb: no such troubles here on kde-nightly [17:21] now only make kde-nightly the main KDE repository... :P [17:46] Hi! Dolphin crashes every time it tries to display a preview for a AVI movie file. Is this a known problem for 4.1 Beta 2 or is something wrong with my configuration? [17:48] piquadrat: not something I've come accross [17:48] Serega: did you manage to test some hardy.1? [17:48] piquadrat: known bug [17:48] you can remove the info bar at the right side to stop it [17:48] not sure if it is fixed upstream already [17:49] Nightrose: OK, thanks. [17:49] Riddell: yes, but I haven't comleted an installation as I haven't free hdd to play with it. [17:52] Riddell: once I had an issue: "system menu" applet on kicker showed me "Empty" instead of folders. [17:52] and looks like update for kaffeine autoinstallation haven't reached hardy repositories yet :( [17:53] it still loops [17:53] BTW, should bugs in the packages from kubuntu-members-kde4 be reported in Launchpad? Or is there some other way to find out if a bug is already known? [17:55] piquadrat: launchpad or ask in #kubuntu-kde4 [17:55] Serega: I think slangsek kept back the kaffeine update, maybe the bug report says why [17:57] Nightrose: oh, I thought I read somewhere this was the channel to ask about KDE4, sorry [17:58] piquadrat: no prob :) here is fine as well if it is development related [18:00] Nightrose: ok, I'll ask over there. Thank you! [18:15] aaargh!! somehow kde-nightly's environment breaks postgres!! [18:18] apachelogger: is neon doing some changes to the environment that kde4 on hardy isn't? [18:36] yuriy: less /usr/bin/startneonkde [18:37] Riddell: no issues for the kde4 desktop cd [18:37] looks quite harmless [18:42] * JontheEchidna thinks that's all of the easily-resolved kde3 bug reports [18:43] apachelogger: with wubi? [18:43] By my estimates the upgrade to KDE4 allowed us to close ~15% of the bugs filed against kdebase [18:43] and who said KDE 4 was buggy? :) [18:43] exactly :) [18:44] Riddell: and all types of installation [18:46] JontheEchidna: i've been getting a lot of emails from you :) how many have you gone through? [18:47] Enough to give me 2.5k more karma [18:47] ..wow [18:47] anyways, room for a hug day next tuesday for this? [18:47] For KDE3 bugs? [18:47] mhmm [18:48] Yeah, there are probably a lot of bugs still out there that we should ask the users if it still is a problem in kde4 [18:48] and set to inactive [18:48] *incomplete [18:48] Plus I didn't touch kdepim really [18:50] Dolphin for kde3 needs some hugging too [18:51] unfortunately I doubt that's going to get anywhere in terms of fixing anything [18:51] kde3 [18:51] hm [18:51] not worth fixing anything [18:51] d3lphin [18:51] 3 is dead! [18:52] but 4.1 is killing my django :( [18:52] well, literally it is dead, Riddell took it away from me [18:52] * apachelogger only got the libs left [18:52] * apachelogger hugs the libs [18:53] * JontheEchidna dances around d3lphin's burning carcass [18:54] * jussi01 shoots the carcas to make sure its dead [18:55] ewww [18:55] apachelogger: upstream will build a new releas with the fixes i mentioned [18:55] But fwiw, I liked d3lphin aside from its bugginess [18:55] Xand3r: which upstream? [18:56] JontheEchidna: for some reason it felt more cluttered than the original [18:56] Yeah, compared to dolphin it's a piece of dog doo [18:57] apachelogger: rubberband [18:57] Xand3r: cool [18:58] yea [18:59] emm, where i can get the intrepid iso? on kubuntuorg i found nothing [18:59] gnaan, found it sorry [19:00] theres something i gotta wonder about [19:00] intrepid ivex? [19:00] where did that come frlom [19:01] ? [19:01] * JontheEchidna wanted Hungry Hungry Hippo for 8.04... [19:01] me too [19:01] they better do lolcat for when they get down to L [19:01] Lewd Lolcat [19:01] something like that [19:02] just have lolcat in it [19:02] i never understood what the problem with hungry hippo was [19:02] think of what those two animals represent... [19:03] and you will know why we don't have a hippo :P [19:03] but still [19:03] everyone wanted it [19:03] but it would look funny on a cover, a hungry hippo^^ [19:04] and hardy heron doesnt [19:04] or intrepid ivex? [19:06] lol, i love it when people make a big deal about being experienced with linux and then make a noob comment [19:06] :P [19:07] trying pinging your internets to see if apt-get will work [19:07] I am so 1337 [19:07] im talking about what just happened in the kubuntu channel [19:07] * JontheEchidna doesn't really lurk there since he uses kde4 primarily [19:08] But I guess when Intrepid is released we'll have to kiss #kubuntu-kde4 goodbye :( [19:12] JontheEchidna: oh no! [19:12] we will use it for tea parties and stuff [19:12] Nightrose: what do you think? [19:13] Btw, aseigo got a FFE on moving widgets in the panel. [19:14] well [19:14] in KDE 3 [19:14] I always moved the applets unintentional [19:15] How it's going to work is that you have to have the panel config toolbox open to do it [19:15] oh [19:15] beautiful [19:15] I love aaron [19:21] hey folks what dou you think about my backport reqest? http://paste.ubuntu.com/24524/ [19:24] apachelogger: tea parties rock ;-) [19:28] Nightrose: can you do me a favor, pleas read the txt i pastet above and tell me if i could publish it [19:28] Xand3r: sorry - dinner on the oven [19:28] Xand3r: look at some of the requests at https://bugs.launchpad.net/hardy-backports [19:28] back in 15 mins [19:29] Xand3r: what changes were needed to screenie for hardy? [19:29] vorian: why i dont get the easy ideas? [19:30] Riddell: not screenie, screenie-qt [19:30] two different apps [19:30] Xand3r: what changes were needed to screenie-qt for hardy? [19:30] screenie-qt dont exist in hardy [19:32] Xand3r: what do you mean by "dont waste time with changing the package, i have it already done it" ? [19:34] hmm, nothing i del it [19:45] hi.. does anyone know how to obtain SSL/TLS support in Kopete (for Google Talk servers)? i tried some qca-tls packages but they didn't work. [19:50] <_gunni_> Try libqca2-plugin-ossl that worked for me [19:51] now i remember why i didn't install that one [19:51] it wants to install libqt4-core [19:52] but in intrepid alpha, i already have libqtcore4 [19:52] so i thought there might be problem and it needs an update to the new package name [19:52] is that true? [20:33] !info libqt4-core [20:33] libqt4-core (source: qt4-x11): Qt 4 core non-GUI functionality runtime library. In component main, is optional. Version 4.3.4-0ubuntu3 (hardy), package size 1993 kB, installed size 5712 kB [20:33] !info libqt4-core interpid [20:33] 'interpid' is not a valid distribution [20:34] !info libqt4-core intrepid [20:34] libqt4-core (source: qt4-x11): transitional package for Qt 4 core non-GUI runtime libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.0-3ubuntu2 (intrepid), package size 7 kB, installed size 108 kB [21:29] vorian: around? [21:29] prolly not [21:29] Riddell: should I be the asignee for the kubuntu-intrepid-website spec? *points to Scott's comment on it* [21:32] Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24548/ is that a valid licensing? [21:37] apachelogger: yo [21:37] been in and out all day [21:37] vorian: 1) debian/control: line 14 exceeds 80 characters [21:37] 2) debian/copyright: line 32 + 113 exceed 80 characters [21:37] 3) 2 man pages missing [21:38] i'll hammer out the man pages later tonight [21:38] k [21:39] I am a bit worrid about the licensing headers [21:39] ta :) [21:39] will have to wait for Riddell's opinion on that [21:39] there are a couple i was worried about [21:39] the one you pasted [21:39] Riddell: also, any last things before Ng redirects the DNS? [21:39] then there was another GPL w/o the full licence in the tarball [21:39] vorian: another GPL? [21:40] strictly GPL [21:40] * vorian finds [21:40] vamps [21:40] hm [21:40] vorian: upstream defenitely needs to add a copy of the GPL 1 for that [21:41] not even I would interpret that as any version of the GPL [21:41] right-o [21:41] I sent them another email yesterday [21:41] him, rather [21:42] aight, I have to scatter [21:48] another discussion about licences? [22:08] stdin, smarter: please track your MOTU related activity on your wiki pages [22:16] mouz, Xand3r, Arby: please create wiki pages and also track your MOTU related activities there - apparently a good example is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AnthonyMercatante ;-) [22:31] apachelogger: OK, any particular reason why this has come up? [22:32] Arby_: better keep track as you do it - later you will forget it [22:32] and of course you are part of his secret plan to get workd domination :P [22:32] *world [22:32] fair point [22:32] lol, was about to mention world domination too [22:32] just a cog in the wheel :) [22:32] ;-) [22:32] or maybe gear is more appropriate [22:33] I think I am gear addicted due to KDE [22:33] something to do tomorrow then [22:34] right now back to fixing my R script [22:34] * apachelogger just got lost in LP [22:35] * Nightrose hands apachelogger a map and a compas [22:36] * ScottK shows up with wading boots. [22:36] We're going in!~ [22:36] hey... [22:36] I've got a question about KDE gossip [22:37] mhb: Hey. How are you. [22:37] it seems there has been some nice affair, regarding aaron perhaps? Unfortunately the only report on planetkde.org is pretty vague... anyone could fill me in or point me to a more detailed blog? [22:39] mhb: read ervin's blog [22:39] the most important stuff is there [22:39] Nightrose: ervin as in? [22:39] and know that a "fix" is being worked on [22:39] hmm sec [22:40] http://ervin.ipsquad.net/ [22:40] thank you very much Nightrose [22:40] you're welcome [22:40] hum hum [22:40] again: nothing that should ever happen again if things work out [22:40] LP is worse than a social network [22:40] hey mhb, hey ScottK [22:40] * apachelogger pokes JontheEchidna [22:41] JontheEchidna: a) wiki page b) tracking motu stuff c) doing motu stuff :P [22:41] Even though I'm not an motu yet? [22:41] hi apachelogger [22:42] JontheEchidna: that is my point pretty much ;-) [22:42] Hehe, work on becoming an motu [22:42] well you don't do much of a different work as motu, so it's basically motu work :P [22:42] Heh [22:43] yeah, a wiki would probably be nicer than LP for tracking such things [22:45] * apachelogger continues to search for packagable stuff [22:47] Nightrose: hmm, the way I read it, Plasma was criticised, so he gave up [22:47] Gave up his public blog life [22:47] mhb: there was more to it [22:48] and not really giving up [22:48] Nightrose: which I have to disagree with, because although I don't really write blogs and posts about it, plasma really isn't any good for me [22:48] Nightrose: bug 121386 [22:48] Launchpad bug 121386 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] krdm" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121386 [22:48] apachelogger: hmm? [22:48] Nightrose: you are assigned [22:48] mhb: please try plasma in beta 2 or even better in the final release [22:49] then we will talk again [22:49] apachelogger: cehcking [22:49] that said [22:49] Nightrose: it's not about bugs [22:49] Nightrose: get a wiki page and document your motu work [22:49] Nightrose: I can forgive those [22:49]