[00:08] <mwhudson> code browse may be up and down a bit for a few minutes
[00:17] <JeremyC> woot, i found what i was looking for finally.
[00:17] <JeremyC> btw, i like the launchpad code browser, if it would stay up i would love it :)
[00:18] <mwhudson> we're working really hard at that :)
[00:18] <mwhudson> it's being particularly mysterious today
[00:19] <mwhudson> (rather than just randomly crappy, which is the normal run of things)
[00:19] <Rinchen> mwhudson, would it help if I posted a job position for someone with shamanistic and exorcism skills?
[00:20] <mwhudson> Rinchen: another 37 sysadmins should suffice
[00:29] <swegner> Hi, I'm signed up as a Launchpad beta tester, and thus I'm also a launchpad open-id tester.  I've set up OpenID support on my Wordpress blog, but have trouble logging in using my Launchpad OpenID.  I can use it on others' blogs, and people use other OpenID providers on my blog-- is there an easy way to trace down where the problem is?
[00:30] <rockstar> swegner, do you have anything in your logs?
[00:32] <swegner> rockstar: in the server logs?  i'll have to see what i can find (i'm not hosting it on my own machine, so we'll see what I have access to..)
[00:32] <rockstar> Taht makes it a whole lot more difficult
[00:35] <swegner> no, it doesn't look like I have access to much here.  I don't have an SSL certificate on my domain, but that's not required.. is it?
[01:42] <Romario> hey folks, anything wrong with uploading sources to ppas? i am waiting since 3 hours now for an acceptance mail...
[01:43] <jml> Peng: I notice a bunch of your branches are having problems.
[01:43] <jml> Peng: I'm looking into it.
[01:46] <Peng> jml: Really? What kind of problems? Loggerhead?
[01:46] <jml> Peng: no. mirroring problems.
[01:46] <Peng> jml: I have bzr+http enabled on my server.
[01:46] <Peng> jml: From my side, all seems well.
[01:46] <jml> Peng: you are mnordhoff on Launchpad, right?
[01:46] <Peng> jml: Yes.
[01:47] <jml> take a look at https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mnordhoff/pytz/pytz-current
[01:47] <Peng> Gee, I don't think I can fix that one myself. :P
[01:47] <jml> Peng: you should see an error message that indicates that the problem is on our side :)
[01:48] <jml> Peng: right. :)
[01:48] <Peng> Yeah, but then it says "If you have fixed the problem, please ask Launchpad to try again."
[01:48] <Rinchen> Romario, nothing that I know of at the moment
[01:49] <jml> Peng: yeah, it shouldn't tell you that for that class of error.
[01:49] <Rinchen> Romario, if it's not updated by tomorrow, please ping me on this channel after 15:00 UTC
[01:49] <Peng> :P
[01:49] <Romario> Rinchen: Ok, thanks!
[01:54] <mwhudson> boy, that's a messed up error
[01:56] <jml> mwhudson: yes.
[01:56] <Peng> My error?
[01:57] <mwhudson> Peng: well, let's say "the error that is causing your branch problems"
[01:57] <mwhudson> Peng: suggesting it belongs to you would be unfair
[01:57] <Peng> :P
[01:57] <Rinchen> that is one interesting error msg you got there
[01:58] <Peng> Is there any correlation with other bzr+http branches, or other servers using lighttpd?
[01:58] <Peng> Or something?
[01:58] <Rinchen> good thing that jml and mwhudson are on the job ;-)
[01:58] <mwhudson> i think it must be bzr+http
[02:00] <Peng> Hm, LP doesn't let you use a "nosmart+http" URL.
[02:00] <jml> mwhudson: or the recent bzr.dev upgrade.
[02:00]  * mwhudson considers a career change
[02:00] <mwhudson> lawn mowing looks nice and simple
[02:00] <mwhudson> jml: well, both i guess
[02:00] <jml> mwhudson: if you go I will hunt you down and drag you back.
[02:02] <mwhudson> jml: darn
[02:20] <jml> Peng: so, it looks like a bug in Bazaar has triggered a bug in Launchpad. I'm going to patch it now, and with luck it should get on to prod in the next day or so.
[02:20] <Peng> jml: Patch bzr or LP?
[02:20] <Peng> jml: What was the bug?
[02:21] <jml> Peng: I'm patching LP.
[02:21] <jml> Peng: I'll need to talk to spiv in order to exactly describe the bzr bug :)
[02:21] <Peng> ok
[02:21] <Peng> Good work. :)
[02:22] <jml> heh
[02:48] <delfick> hello, is anyone else having problems with the launchpad source code browser?
[02:48] <delfick> it's a bit slow today....
[02:48] <RAOF> Yeah.  It's been up and down.
[02:49] <delfick> damn....
[02:49] <delfick> oh well, time I went and had some breakfast anyhow :p
[02:49] <delfick> maybe it will be better for me after that :)
[02:49] <jml> delfick: we're working on it right now :)
[02:50] <delfick> cool
[02:50] <delfick> that helps :)
[05:12] <Pyroar> hi, i have a problem with launchpad can somebody help me?
[05:12] <Hobbsee> !ask
[05:14] <thumper> Pyroar: shoot
[05:15] <Pyroar> ok sorry, when i send the packeges to the ppa is rejected, and the mail says this:"Section 'main' is not valid"
[05:15] <Hobbsee> main is not a valid section
[05:16] <Hobbsee> http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Section
[05:17] <Pyroar> but when i change main for example with gnome , the file is rejectd again
[05:18] <wgrant> With what error?
[05:19] <Pyroar> "Section 'main' is not valid"
[05:21] <wgrant> You probably changed it in the binary, rather than the source.
[05:23] <Hobbsee> or didn't rebuild the source.
[05:24] <Pyroar> this error is the .changes file
[05:24] <wgrant> Pyroar: Which is generated when you debuild.
[05:27] <Pyroar> i make a program in gambas, and the .deb its automatically generated.
[05:30] <wgrant> Then you should complain at Gambas.
[05:30] <wgrant> Also, you need a .dsc, not a .deb.
[05:34] <Pyroar> i have a dsc
[05:34] <Pyroar> and its signed with pgp
[06:26] <bliZZardz> in LP, is it possible to add a sorting functionality while viewing bugs; i.e, clicking on the 'Importance' or 'Status' sorts it accordingly.
[06:28] <wgrant> bliZZardz: That's not possible, but you can sort using the search box at the top.
[06:30] <bliZZardz> wgrant : and the reasons of it being 'not possible'?
[06:30] <Hobbsee> bliZZardz: not yet implemented.  file a bug, as i haven't done so.
[06:42] <cody-somerville> woot :)
[06:42]  * cody-somerville huggles LP.
[07:43] <bliZZardz> wgrant : what should be the product name if i want to file it as a bug?(i do not find a product as 'launchpad')
[08:00] <mpt> Gooooooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!
[08:04] <Hobbsee> hey mpt!
[08:07] <mpt> hey hey
[09:27] <Snaury> Hello, can anybody tell me if it's possible to upload a source package to ppa and get it compiled for both hardy and intrepid? Currently it seems to look at changelog and I'd have to make two almost identical source packages. :-/
[09:27] <laga> i think you can copy the package
[09:28] <Snaury> I tried, but it complains that it already exists in intrepid. O.o
[09:28] <Snaury> laga ^
[09:29] <laga> dunno, i never used that feature
[09:30] <Snaury> "The following source cannot be copied: mc 2:4.6.2~git20080311-3~df1 in intrepid (same version already has published binaries in the destination archive)"
[09:30] <Snaury> But what I'm trying to do is copy it to hardy...
[09:33] <cprov> Snaury: you can't rebuild the same source in two different series because of the archive format we use (pool-based)
[09:34] <cprov> Snaury: rebuild the same source would result in binaries with the same name and version but with different contents.
[09:34] <Snaury> cprov: Ah! Now I see it. Yes.
[09:49] <therve> hello!
[09:50] <therve> I'm seeing a timeout error every time I try to assign a bug to someone
[09:50] <therve> is it something already known?
[09:57] <therve> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/244796
[10:11]  * \sh needs some help regarding mailinglist and not showing "mails in the moderation queue"
[10:12] <\sh> LP Mailinglists ;)
[10:12] <wgrant> What an inefficient query.
[10:14] <wgrant> Searching through all bug subscriptions that I'm part of, just to check if I'm able to see a private bug? Wouldn't it make more sense to check the subscriptions on that bug?
[10:14] <wgrant> (and be faster, and thus not timeout and reveal its guts to me)
[10:28] <Pauluzz> what to do when a bug is incorrectly marked as a duplicate?
[10:30] <wgrant> Pauluzz: Mark it as not a duplicate, by emptying the duplicate field.
[10:36] <Festor> Is it possible to delete a team from the launchpad?
[10:36] <Festor> of course I make this team
[10:39] <wgrant> Festor: You could probably ask a Launchpad administrator to deactivate or merge it with another as you see fit.
[10:39] <kiko> Festor, yeah, what team?
[10:40] <Festor> https://launchpad.net/~motu-es
[10:50] <wgrant> Is there a reason that details of the last event that marked a bug private are stored (or at least have DB columns) but aren't exposed in the UI?
[10:51] <wgrant> Particularly as it's not in the activity log, so there's no way to advise people to stop marking things private.
[10:51] <kiko> wgrant, are they stored in the DB really?
[10:52] <wgrant> kiko: I don't know, but there are fields for them.
[10:53] <kiko> wgrant, where?
[10:53] <kiko> Festor, deleted.
[10:53] <wgrant> kiko-afk: In this particularly nice 6.5k SQL query that OOPSed at me.
[10:53] <Festor> kiko-afk, thanks
[11:02] <Malinthe> hi guys, i'm having trouble accessing my launchpad account. any help?
[11:03] <wgrant> Malinthe: Could you give more details on what is going wrong? Error messages and the like help...
[11:04] <Malinthe> wgrant: i'm getting 'This account cannot be used.' when trying to login
[11:04] <wgrant> That sounds like kiko-afk needs to look at it.
[11:07] <Malinthe> kiko-afk: hi, i'm getting 'This account cannot be used' when i try to login to launchpad.
[11:28] <gnomefreak> how would i add lightning-sunbird to be assocated with sunbird project in LP?
[11:28] <gnomefreak> sunbird project link is https://edge.launchpad.net/sunbird/
[11:28] <wgrant> gnomefreak: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightning-sunbird. Click the edit link next to the appropriate version in the release table.
[11:29] <gnomefreak> wgrant: thanks looking
[11:30] <gnomefreak> wgrant: when i click edit i change the space to sunbird can click choose and it lists sunbird/trunk is that correct?
[11:31] <wgrant> gnomefreak: If it's correct, it's correct.
[11:31] <wgrant> I can't ascertain that, as I don't know Sunbird.
[11:31] <gnomefreak> wgrant: the trunk part bothers me since 0.8 version isnt trunk
[11:32] <wgrant> gnomefreak: If it has no other series set up, and upstream doesn't use the project, trunk is probably OK anyway.
[11:44] <gnomefreak> wgrant: it seems i added one that i shouldnt when i go to remove it (same way as adding it) it tells me invald series? is there another way to remove it from sunbird project
[11:45] <wgrant> gnomefreak: Click 'Delete Link' on the page with the edit link.
[11:45] <wgrant> Yes, that is annoying and strange.
[11:48] <gnomefreak> wgrant: that only removed lightning-sunbird but i wanted to remove lightning
[11:48] <gnomefreak> https://edge.launchpad.net/sunbird
[11:48] <gnomefreak> wgrant: nevermind
[11:48] <gnomefreak> i was looking at wrong page
[11:48] <wgrant> That's what I thought.
[11:50] <gnomefreak> wgrant: thanks, Using the intrepid version is enough right i shouldnt have to define each release?
[11:50] <wgrant> gnomefreak: FSVO enough.
[11:50] <wgrant> I beleve for most values.
[11:50] <gnomefreak> ok thanks
[11:53] <jamesh> mpt: with the current bugs page design, the "Activity log" link looks like it is associated with the reporter rather than the bug itself
[11:54] <wgrant> jamesh: At least the activity log wasn't reported on that date by that person. It was just a few days ago.
[11:56] <kiko-afk> wgrant, you got an OOPS with a traceback?!
[11:57] <wgrant> kiko-afk: They occasionally appear on edge and regularly in some other places.
[11:57] <kiko-afk> wgrant, that can't make sense
[11:57] <wgrant> kiko-afk: That's correct.
[11:57] <wgrant> But it happens.
[11:59] <wgrant> I've seen more verbose OOPSes on edge in a couple of separate instances in the past two weeks.
[11:59] <wgrant> At least I'm pretty sure it was edge.
[11:59] <kiko-afk> wgrant, when it happens, can you send me a screenshot? I'll look into it meanwhile
[12:00] <wgrant> kiko-afk: Sure.
[12:00] <kiko-afk> that's really weird. I don't mind the traceback as much as it's scaring the end-user
[12:00] <kiko-afk> as its scaring
[12:00] <kiko-afk> I think I mean
[12:01] <wgrant> I presumed that was why they were off on edge and not just production.
[12:01] <kiko-afk> no, they are always supposed to be restricted to a team
[12:02] <wgrant> The first time I saw it on edge was when it was OOPSing every couple of page loads. I presumed somebody switched them on to debug it.
[12:02] <wgrant> Ahh.
[12:02] <wgrant> That explains it, I guess.
[12:02] <wgrant> As at least once it was failing to look up my cookie.
[12:02] <kiko-afk> weird.
[12:02] <kiko-afk> very weird
[12:03] <wgrant> But that doesn't explain why I got it for that epic query timeout.
[12:04] <wgrant> That must have been either a Storm malfunction or some very odd optimisation.
[12:49] <Wellark> hi! is it possible to export all po-files of a project at once?
[12:49] <Wellark> or in automated way
[12:50] <Wellark> I'm not asking for specific walktrough, just want to know is it possible
[12:56] <jtv> Wellark: yes, it is
[12:57] <jtv> Wellark: not for project groups or for packages, but for an individual project it is.
[12:57] <jtv> Wellark: automating it has 1 complication: you receive an email with a URL to the file, so you need to be ready to deal with that.
[13:01] <jtv> Wellark: I think my connection just blinked.  Did you see my answer?
[13:01] <Wellark> jtv: yes, I did. thanks.
[13:02] <jtv> Wellark: glad to hear it.  np.
[13:44] <robilad> hi!
[13:45] <armine> hey
[13:45] <robilad> i got bitten by https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/244499 too
[13:46] <robilad> can't login any more ;)
[14:06] <mpt> jamesh, I noticed that yesterday, it needs rearranging a bit
[14:07] <mpt> as in "Reported by Joan Doe on 2004-12-21 (Activity log)"
[14:20] <name> hi
[14:20] <Romario> Rinchen: still no luck with my ppa
[14:21] <name> Why doesnt launchpad protect email adresses in any way? either adding NOSPAM or doing a captcha
[14:21] <Romario> i've uploaded another source again but it is not present in my ppa
[14:21] <name> I don't get much spam and I want it to stay that way
[14:22] <andrea-bs> name: your e-mail address (if public) can be viewed only by registered users
[14:23] <name> ah okay thanks
[14:23] <andrea-bs> name: you are welcome :)
[14:23] <name> i am kinda paranoid now about spam
[14:23] <name> my gmail account gets ~250 spam a week
[14:24] <LaserJock> I think mine gets like 1k in 24hrs
[14:25] <name> LaserJock: i'd have made a new one long ago if i were you ;)
[14:25] <LaserJock> that is my new one
[14:25] <LaserJock> ;-)
[14:26] <LaserJock> but it all goes to the spam folder so I don't care really
[14:27] <name> all the bandwidth wasted...
[14:28] <LaserJock> yeah, that is certainly a shame
[14:29] <LaserJock> reminds me of all the paper/postage wasted on real life junk mail
[14:46] <Romario> hey folks, anything wron with uploading sources to ppas?
[14:46] <Romario> i am waiting since yesterday for an acceptance message
[14:47] <Romario> then i tried to upload a new sources file again but nothing happens
[14:47] <mrevell> Hey cprov, do you have a moment to help Romario?
[14:48] <Romario> i talked to Rinchen yesterday but he is not online right now
[14:50] <Romario> my ppa is at https://launchpad.net/~mario-kemper/+archive
[14:53] <joumetal> What happened to tags? Launchpad doesn't show them anymore.
[14:54] <wgrant> There were some changes made to that very late in the last cycle.
[14:54] <Romario> and i've uploaded two new sources that should normally superseed the exisiting builds
[14:54] <Romario> but they seem to be lost in nirvana
[14:55] <wgrant> joumetal: They're on the right.
[14:55] <wgrant> joumetal: Right under the description.
[14:58] <PecisDarbs> there is some import surge in Rosetta atm? I wait for third day to get my stuff imported
[15:00] <kiko> danilos, jt1: ^^^
[15:00] <cprov> Romario: Signing key 4A1328D42E94865098F6C2DA0BA205EA7960972D not registered in launchpad.
[15:01] <Romario> oh
[15:01] <Romario> mh, this could be the problem, indeed
[15:01] <Romario> i changed this for a while
[15:01] <Romario> ;-)
[15:01] <cprov> Romario: you have to register the GPG key you're using to sign the sources, otherwise soyuz won't even send any email to you
[15:01] <Romario> ok, thanks
[15:01] <cprov> Romario: note, that I'm not saying that it's not a bug, I'm just telling you how to get it working properly for now.
[15:01] <Romario> i'll give it a try
[15:01] <Romario> bye
[15:02] <cprov> We will have good news on this area very soon.
[15:02] <Romario> ok
[15:05] <jtv> PecisDarbs: Just a moment, I'll have a look
[15:05] <jtv> PecisDarbs: what's the project?
[15:08] <PecisDarbs> jtv: debian-installer
[15:08] <PecisDarbs> jtv: Latvian translation
[15:10] <jtv> PecisDarbs: I don't see anything on its import queue right now...
[15:11] <PecisDarbs> o_O
[15:11] <jtv> PecisDarbs: where exactly did you upload?
[15:13] <PecisDarbs> jtv: as usual, trough Launchpad, selecting Hardy, Latvian, debian-installer, Upload file
[15:13] <jtv> PecisDarbs: oh, in the package.  Just a moment...
[15:14] <name> how does launchpad translation work? gettext?
[15:14] <jtv> PecisDarbs: see it now.  It's "approved," which in itself is good...
[15:15] <jtv> PecisDarbs: still digging.  Please bear with me.
[15:16] <PecisDarbs> np :)
[15:16] <PecisDarbs> name: yep
[15:16] <PecisDarbs> sorry
[15:17] <name> PecisDarbs: thanks
[15:17] <jtv> PecisDarbs: it might be that surge, indeed.  I see a whole bunch of openoffice imports here that could have something to do with it!
[15:19] <jtv> PecisDarbs: over a thousand files.
[15:19] <PecisDarbs> ohh boy
[15:20] <PecisDarbs> any prognosis?
[15:20] <jtv> Looking...
[15:23] <jtv> PecisDarbs: the prognosis is "this is going to take a long time."  :-/
[15:23] <PecisDarbs> jtv: week, days?
[15:24] <jtv> PecisDarbs: trying to figure that out, but it doesn't look good.
[15:27] <jtv> PecisDarbs: the good news is, it looks like we went through the majority of them in the past 24 hours.
[15:27] <jtv> PecisDarbs: the bad news is that right now, they're going through very slowly.
[15:28] <PecisDarbs> ok, but that means five days, not weeks anyway :)
[15:28] <PecisDarbs> (I hope so)
[15:28] <jtv> PecisDarbs: what makes you say five days?
[15:29] <PecisDarbs> just guesing
[15:30] <krow> Is there a way to do a bzr pull lp: from a tree up to a certain patch? AKA I suspect the tree beyond a certain patch is broken so I only want a certain set of the revisions.
[15:32] <statik> bzr you could specify the -r flag to pull, but probably you just want to use bzr revert -r
[15:32] <jtv> PecisDarbs: definitely not weeks—if it gets that bad we'll just _have_ to figure something out.  But yes, could be something like 5 days.  Very loose guess.
[15:34] <jtv> PecisDarbs: thanks for bringing this to our attention... I'll keep an eye on that queue.
[15:36] <PecisDarbs> jtv: no problem, thanks for checking it :)
[16:58]  * Yhouse e' away (Sto andando via)
[17:53] <lool> Hi there; I have an issue deleting an old bzr branch; I can't due to a subscription and the team owner can't either
[17:53] <lool> branch is https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mobile/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu.gutsy
[17:53] <lool> Message is:
[17:53] <lool>     * [Insufficient privilages] Subscription of Wing Hui to
[17:53] <lool> ~ubuntu-mobile/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu.gutsy (This is a subscription to this
[17:53] <lool> branch.)
[17:53] <lool> You do not have permission make all the changes required to delete this
[17:53] <lool> Branch.
[17:54] <lool> Both me (admin) and davidm (team owner) tried to remove it with the same error message
[17:55] <Volans> Hi all, I have a question on how send an alert to all members of a LP team that I administrate without knowing all their email addresses. Is possible?
[17:58] <jelmer> lool: I think the intention is that you can't remove branches that people rely on
[17:58] <jelmer> so a subscriber can block deletion
[18:00] <lool> Hmm I find it a bit weird that anyone can block objects "I own"
[18:05] <lool> jelmer: Is this something to file a bug on?  or are you certain it's intended behavior?
[18:18] <jelmer> lool: I'm pretty sure it's intended behaviour but if consider it a bug, I think it would be useful to file one. I don't personally like it either though allowing it would break other things
[18:21] <lool> jelmer: Ok; I'll file a bug; perhaps it will end up as documented behavior that you can't do this with the associated rationale along the error message
[18:40] <kiko> lool, you should ask abentley to be sure -- he's done a lot of work in that area
[18:42] <abentley> jelmer, kiko, lool: We intend to special-case deleting branch subscriptions to branches you own.
[18:53] <kiko> abentley, ah, awsome :)
[19:07] <name> hm. ready for license discussion. I just wrote a library to calculate ECF and ELO chess ratings. Which library to take
[19:07] <name> all in all it's 128 lines, so GPL would be pretty weird :)
[19:07] <kiko-afk> what does the size of the library have to do with it!
[19:09] <name> if the GPL is larger than the library ^^
[19:10] <kiko-afk> name, that's irrelevant, :)
[19:11] <name> i'm considering MIT, BSD or GPL
[19:12] <geser> triple-licensed? :)
[19:12] <laga> BSD is the most free license </flame bait>
[19:14] <name> probably too free :)
[19:16] <name> i'll just pickGPL
[19:20] <name> hmm should i put it on launchpad?
[19:30] <kiko-afk> name, of course you should! LP is the best place out there!
[19:32] <name> bzr: ERROR: Transport operation not possible: http does not support mkdir()
[19:32] <name> wtf?
[19:35] <beuno> name, you probably haven't done:  bzr launchpad-login your_lp_id
[19:35] <name> ahh
[19:36] <name> bzr: ERROR: Target directory lp:pyrate already exists, but does not have a valid .bzr directory. Supply --use-existing-dir to push there anyway.
[19:36] <name> should I?
[19:36] <beuno> name, yeap
[19:36] <beuno> that only happens when you try to push through http
[19:36] <beuno> I'm starting to think it's a bug...
[19:37] <beuno> abentley, do you know if that's on purpose  ^?
[19:37] <name> now how long will my push take to be seen in launchpad
[19:38] <abentley> beuno: mkdir failing over http?
[19:38] <beuno> abentley, yeap
[19:38] <name> why is there no syntax highlighting when browsing source code :(
[19:39] <beuno> name, it varies from 5 minutes to a few hours, depending on how much load it has. Usually a few minutes
[19:39] <abentley> beuno: It really is impossible to mkdir over vanilla http.
[19:39] <beuno> name, that would be a nice feature request for loggerhead, care to file a bug requesting it?
[19:39] <beuno> abentley, right, I know. But LP creates the dir anyway
[19:40] <name> is loggerhead written using python?
[19:41] <name> yes it is :)
[19:41] <name> i might be able to help out a bit then
[19:41] <abentley> beuno: that is not my experience.
[19:42] <name> they could just use http://pygments.org/
[19:42] <abentley> ubotu: paste
[19:42] <abentley> ubottu: paste
[19:42] <kiko-afk> beuno, what are you doing online??
[19:42] <abentley> beuno: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24528/
[19:43] <beuno> kiko-afk, uhm, well, the hotel has wifi, and there's too much light to sleep  :p
[19:43] <kiko-afk> beuno, so go have dinner maybe?!
[19:43] <kiko-afk> I wish I could invite you but I am out in Richmond which is a /long/ way away!
[19:44] <beuno> abentley, well, then the bzr-launchpad plugin does something different. Try pushing with lp:blah without setting your ID
[19:44] <beuno> kiko-afk, ah, right. Dinner would work!   I appreciate the offer, maybe we'll catch lunch, or dinner some other time/place  :)
[19:45] <kiko-afk> yeah, definitely. thanks :)
[19:46] <abentley> beuno: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24529/
[19:48] <beuno> abentley, maybe it happens when the project doesn't have any other branches?  it happens to *every* user that comes in here with the mkdir() problem
[19:49] <abentley> beuno: I can't comment on a bug I can't reproduce.
[19:51] <beuno> abentley, can you try creating a new project, or pushing to an existing one without any branches?  in the lp:randomproject form, instead of lp:~user/project/branchname
[19:52] <beuno> anyway, off to shower/dinner/get-used-to-UK-time
[19:52] <abentley> beuno: I'm working on something else right now.
[19:52] <beuno> abentley, I'll report the bug later then, thanks
[20:01] <name> hm stupid me. i did a library for chess rating and called it pyrate(python and rate) and did not see that this makes pirate mispelled ^^
[20:09] <name> too bad you can't rename launchpad projects
[20:14] <name> no chance of deleting and re-registering it. noone will ever find it along the 132k google results
[20:14] <kiko-afk> name, you can, just ask me
[20:14] <kiko-afk> name, I'll fix it for you
[20:14] <name> kiko-afk: ah okay, i registered the project pyrate and i'd like to call it pygrade(library for chess rating/gradings)
[20:14] <name> kiko-afk: thanks a lot!
[20:16] <name> kiko-afk: so fast! thanks
[20:16] <kiko-afk> done :)
[20:18] <name> i'd like to try and textend loggerhead with syntax highlightning... where is the file that serves the source code?
[20:19] <andrea-bs> name: https://launchpad.net/loggerhead
[20:21] <name> i know. but i mean the actual source file that is responsible for returning the source of a file you like to view
[20:22] <andrea-bs> name: try to ask on #bzr
[20:22] <name> ok
[20:23] <kiko-afk> okay, outta here!
[20:23] <kiko-afk> catch you all later..
[20:29] <Kl4m> Hi, when an old bug is fixed in the current version, is it "fix commited" or "fix released"
[20:29] <mpt> Kl4m, Fix Released, if by "the current version" you mean "the latest released version"
[20:30] <Kl4m> Ok, then "fix commited" would be a fix in a development version?
[20:30] <mpt> Kl4m, exactly
[20:44] <thekorn> hi all, I've got a question regarding the (LP: #xxxx) syntax in changelogs: what's the way to mark an entry fixing a list of bugs?
[20:44] <thekorn> (LP: #xxxx, #yyyy, #zzzz) or something else?
[21:01] <maix> h
[21:01] <maix> +i
[21:03] <maix> i just wanted to add gutsy-backports to a bug. i accessed it via the +source url, and clicked on that "also affects project" link and there was no such option
[21:03] <maix> when i accessed it via the hardy-backports url and clicked that link there was one.
[21:04] <maix> wtf?
[21:04] <maix> the bug's "main page" looks exactly the same, but after you click the link you get something completely different
[21:05] <maix> (and of course i had to be told to use the other url, i didn't guess it)
[21:06] <maix> please change something there, thats *really* confusing.
[22:01] <popey> I have setup a mailing list on launchpad - https://edge.launchpad.net/~transcribers/+mailinglist, someone has possted to it, and it hasn't appeared, and isn't showing up under moderation.. what should I do?
[22:16] <intellectronica> popey: barry may be able to help you
[22:17] <barry> popey: the poster is a non-team member, but is a launchpad member?
[22:18] <popey> hi barry 
[22:18] <barry> hi popey 
[22:18] <popey> how can I tell if he is a member of the list?
[22:18] <popey> he is in the team
[22:19] <popey> https://edge.launchpad.net/~yorvik-ubunto is he
[22:19] <popey> https://edge.launchpad.net/~transcribers is the team
[22:19] <barry> popey: sadly, atm we have to get an lp admin to verify this.  there's an open bug on this issue.
[22:19] <popey> do you have the bug number so i can subscribe or is it internal?
[22:20] <barry> popey: let me look
[22:21] <barry> popey: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/185444
[22:22] <popey> ok, so I should ask the person initially if he sees "You are subscribed to the team mailing list" in lp?
[22:22] <barry> popey: yes
[22:22] <popey> ok, ta
[22:23] <barry> popey: ping me when you find out and we can go from there. we will probably have to get lp admins involved
[22:24] <popey> thanks
[22:25]  * popey just had a "wtf" moment looking for the subscribe option on that bug
[22:25] <popey> didn't spot the big green + :)
[22:54] <tgm4883_laptop> I'm having some major issues using launchpad, I can't seem to get to anything anymore except to the main page (rarely I can get to parts of my project page).  Mostly I get the OOPS something broke page with an error id.  This happens whether I am using the beta site or I am disable redirection.   Interestingly, I just decided to log out and I can browse the site fine while logged out, but upon logging in again I have the s
[22:54] <tgm4883_laptop> ame issues
[22:56] <tgm4883_laptop> so whatever the problem is, it appears to be related to my account
[22:56] <thumper> tgm4883_laptop: what is your lp login?
[22:56] <tgm4883_laptop> any help resolving this issue would be greatly appreciated
[22:56] <tgm4883_laptop> login should be tgm4883
[22:57] <thumper> tgm4883_laptop: this appears to be a bug that is being worked on
[22:57] <thumper> right now
[22:57] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[22:57] <thumper> bug 244499
[22:57] <tgm4883_laptop> well thats good to know
[22:57] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[22:57] <thumper> tgm4883_laptop: will be fixed asap
[22:57] <tgm4883_laptop> I don't think i switched mail addresses
[22:57] <thumper> hmm...
[22:58] <tgm4883_laptop> sec, let me logout and look at that bug
[22:58] <tgm4883_laptop> yea thats not the same
[22:59] <tgm4883_laptop> I can login, but most places I try to go while logged in I get the error page
[23:01] <tgm4883_laptop> I can post the error id's if necessary
[23:02] <salgado> tgm4883_laptop, yeah, can you give us the error IDs?
[23:03] <tgm4883_laptop> (Error ID: OOPS-914D3305)   - This is when I tried to access my personal page
[23:04] <tgm4883_laptop> (Error ID: OOPS-914C3411)     - This is when I tried to access the Mythbuntu project page
[23:04] <tgm4883_laptop> I could generate more on demand if you like ;)
[23:04] <salgado> heh
[23:04] <salgado> no need to
[23:13] <salgado> tgm4883_laptop, it's https://launchpad.net/bugs/244681 that is affecting you
[23:15] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm, that would seem like the problem
[23:17] <tgm4883_laptop> so am I reading correct that I need a timezone file on my end?
[23:18] <salgado> tgm4883_laptop, nope, it's a bug on our end and we're fixing it
[23:18] <salgado> EdwinGrubbs, is there a workaround for it?
[23:18] <tgm4883_laptop> ah ok
[23:20] <EdwinGrubbs> salgado: the timezone has to be changed either by an admin or directly in the db.
[23:21] <salgado> Rinchen, can you change tgm4883_laptop's timezone on lpnet?
[23:22] <tgm4883_laptop> that would be awesome.  I'll take anything, Central, East Coast, Mainland China
[23:22] <Rinchen> salgado, that's a good question. I'll see if mthaddon can do that since he doesn't have enough work to do. :-)
[23:23] <mthaddon> Rinchen, how do I do that?
[23:23] <salgado> Rinchen, it can be done by a LP admin.  I thought you had the rights, hence me asking
[23:23] <Rinchen> salgado, I keep refusing to give myself access. :-)
[23:23] <salgado> mthaddon, https://launchpad.net/~tgm4883/+edit
[23:23] <Rinchen> salgado, although it seems that I'm running out of room and perhaps I should just cave.
[23:23] <salgado> Rinchen, you so should! ;)
[23:23] <mthaddon> tgm4883_laptop, what timezone do you want?
[23:24] <Rinchen> spm, ah there you are. I didn't see you.
[23:24] <tgm4883_laptop> Ideally Pacific, but anything around +7 would work
[23:24] <spm> Rinchen: i hide...
[23:24] <mthaddon> tgm4883_laptop, changed to Pacific
[23:25] <tgm4883_laptop> ah, working again
[23:25] <tgm4883_laptop> thank you so much :)
[23:25] <tgm4883_laptop> guess I can't be a slacker now
[23:30] <Rinchen> thanks mthaddon 
[23:30] <mthaddon> cool
[23:33] <popey> barry: checked with the user and he said he is subscribed, and has sent another test mail but it hasn't arrived at the mailing list
[23:36] <barry> popey: okay, there are a few possibilities.  what strikes me first is that he might be sending the message from an email address that is not registered to him in lp
[23:36] <popey> aha, I got it!
[23:36] <popey> he has registered as foo@gmail.com, but his mail comes from foo@googlemail.com
[23:37] <popey> I'll get him to add that address to his lp account and that should fix it
[23:37] <popey> well spotted
[23:37] <barry> popey: yep!
[23:37] <popey> I get this all the time on mailman, should have see it, thanks
[23:38] <barry> popey: lp has an advantage over vanilla mailman in that we essentially subscribe all of a user's validated addresses with the list (disabling of course the ones he doesn't want delivery on)
[23:38] <popey> cute
[23:38] <popey> when they add their addresses ;)
[23:38] <barry> popey: that was a 'shower epiphany' for me :)
[23:38] <popey> hahah
[23:45] <Rinchen> popey, you're alive!
[23:45] <Rinchen> popey, haven't seen you since....since... UDS Boston
[23:45] <popey> :)
[23:46] <popey> actually, I need to speak to someone about launchpod - is it your baby or mrevells?
[23:49] <Rinchen> popey, we all love it equally
[23:49] <Rinchen> popey, what's on your mind good sir
[23:50] <popey> ok, well, I decided to start a team to transcribe our Ubuntu UK Podcast, but rather than make it specific to our podcast alone, have a team who could potentially transcribe any podcast, in fact any audio content
[23:50] <popey> https://edge.launchpad.net/~transcribers
[23:50] <popey> we have started by transcribing ours, we only have 8 episodes so far, and so once they're done, there will be one episode every two weeks to transcribe
[23:51] <popey> so potentially we may have spare capacity in the team
[23:51] <popey> wondered if launchpod fancied getting transcribed
[23:51] <popey> we use a tool called transcriber (in the repo) which makes it uber easy to transcribe audio content
[23:51] <popey> once we get at least two podcasts on board (ours and potentially yours) I wanted to blog / raise awareness with other podcasters
[23:52] <popey> the key benefits for podcasters are a) accessibility for the deaf b) translatability (you only make launchpod in English for example), and c) google juice for their site
[23:52] <popey> what do you think?
[23:54] <popey> oh, and we use bzr for managing the transcriptions :)