| xivulon | we should have the self-extracting inside the cd, and the non-selfextracting in ubuntu.com | 00:00 |
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| xivulon | we should have the self-extracting inside the cd, and the non-selfextracting in ubuntu.com | 00:00 |
| giosue_c | as per my earlier question: i'm trying to build a hardy alternate installer cd with cdimage. germinate isn't finding some dependencies of the xubuntu-desktop package. I think it is because the packages it requires are in universe, but the germinate command cdimage is using only looks at main. | 02:09 |
| giosue_c | i just want to make sure the solution gets in the logs | 02:10 |
| giosue_c | cjwatson advised me to make sure CDIMAGE_UNSUPPORTED was getting set. | 02:10 |
| giosue_c | he also advised me to workaround the strange cdimage mirror location (ftp-universe instead of just ftp). The key here is not to do anything dumb in your workaround, which is what i did. :) | 02:12 |
| giosue_c | my final solution was to change the ftp-uinverse link in run-germinate to be plain old ftp. | 02:13 |
| giosue_c | that's all really. | 02:13 |
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| davmor2 | xivulon: afternoon (well almost eveing) | 16:34 |
| davmor2 | Just doing the wubi install tests pronto | 16:40 |
| opapo | I want to create a bootable iso | 16:41 |
| davmor2 | xivulon: Wubi is still not functioning from cd-rw but is from dvd-rw | 16:41 |
| opapo | I have copied/modified files from a cd and what to create a new bootable iso | 16:42 |
| opapo | I know about genisoimage, but I don't know about how to make a cd bootable | 16:43 |
| opapo | I will try: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization?action=show&redirect=InstallCDCustomizationHowTo | 16:46 |
| evand | davmor2: we had to back out the change that fixed bug 207137 | 16:50 |
| evand | It wont make it for 8.04.1 | 16:50 |
| davmor2 | evand: No worries I clocked it after :) | 16:51 |
| davmor2 | Thought I'd test it anyway as I had reported the original bug :) | 16:51 |
| davmor2 | evand: xivulon: Vista's self extractor seems to be working okay so far from umenu I'll keep you informed :) | 16:52 |
| evand | fantastic | 16:58 |
| davmor2 | evand: xivulon: Works nicely cd ejected bar completes and the system is currently installing Ubuntu after reboot :) | 17:00 |
| evand | hooray | 17:03 |
| davmor2 | evand: Yeap | 17:05 |
| davmor2 | evand: xivulon: Migration-Assistant still isn't working with wubi though | 17:06 |
| davmor2 | evand: is m-a working with vista yet do you know? | 17:08 |
| xivulon | hi davmor2, all good? | 17:12 |
| evand | negative, that will take some time that I don't have at the moment. Hopefully I'll find a free weekend for it as it's not too much work (the registry format is largely unchanged). | 17:12 |
| evand | m-a as a whole needs updating though. Firefox 3 doesn't seem to want to migrate old preferences over, so it looks like I'll have to rework that code with sqlite. | 17:14 |
| evand | err bookmarks | 17:14 |
| xivulon | evand see #release for non-selfextracting wubi.exe stand-alone | 17:14 |
| evand | xivulon: indeed | 17:27 |
| davmor2 | Yay success on Vista :) full installed :) | 17:30 |
| davmor2 | xivulon: quick query why does grub stall for 8 seconds when the norm is 3? | 17:43 |
| xivulon | davmor2 check what is the timeout in c:\ubuntu\disks\boot\grub\menu.lst | 18:08 |
| xivulon | I do not recall preseeding the timeout, would have thought that it would default to the standard case | 18:09 |
| xivulon | evand any clue?^ | 18:09 |
| davmor2 | xivulon: I'll check it out another time? In a qa meeting and am now testing m-a | 18:09 |
| xivulon | np | 18:09 |
| xivulon | I would expect it to be 10 though from what you say | 18:10 |
| davmor2 | evand: m-a is working on xp :) | 18:25 |
| davmor2 | in i386 anyway | 18:25 |
| evand | hooray | 18:29 |
| giosue_c | I thought I understood how the installer worked, but now I'm not so sure. I'm going to put some of my assumptions here and I would be obliged if somebody could point out the parts I am missing or don't understand.... Thanks in advance! | 18:37 |
| giosue_c | After the installer has booted itself it uses debootstrap to setup the target system. | 18:37 |
| giosue_c | ok. maybe i don't understand at all how the thing works. | 18:39 |
| giosue_c | :( | 18:39 |
| giosue_c | i've got a ISO with a pool on it and an installer. How does it know what to install? | 18:39 |
| giosue_c | Does it use the "Tasks"? If so where do you specify what tasks to add? | 18:40 |
| cjwatson | http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/doc/talks/debconf6/paper/ might be a helpful thing to read | 18:40 |
| cjwatson | assuming you've already gone through the installation guide | 18:40 |
| giosue_c | ok. i'll start there. | 18:41 |
| cjwatson | to set up the target system, it uses debootstrap followed by tasksel and a few additional tweaks | 18:41 |
| cjwatson | debootstrap installs Priority: required and important, while tasksel uses the Task fields | 18:41 |
| cjwatson | the default set of tasks to install is preseeded (/preseed/ in the ISO image) | 18:42 |
| cjwatson | and the preseed file to use is passed as file= on the kernel command line | 18:42 |
| giosue_c | so in the preseed file... when you preseed xubuntu-desktop to tasksel it is the task... not the metapackage of the same name. | 18:43 |
| giosue_c | right. | 18:43 |
| giosue_c | that would explain. | 18:43 |
| giosue_c | it kinda feels like xubuntu-desktop metapackage and xubuntu-desktop task are redundant. | 18:44 |
| giosue_c | i'm missing something subtle here. why use the tasks at all, why not just install the xubuntu-desktop metapackage straightaway? | 18:45 |
| giosue_c | or if we have to use tasks why not just have the xubuntu-desktop task just install xubuntu-desktop metapackage? | 18:46 |
| cjwatson | it's the task, yes | 18:47 |
| cjwatson | there are some subtle differences | 18:47 |
| cjwatson | the metapackage is useful for convenient installation | 18:47 |
| cjwatson | but telling apt to install the task in the installer means that each component of the task can be separately recorded as explicitly installed, rather than automatically installed | 18:48 |
| cjwatson | both are useful | 18:48 |
| giosue_c | hmm. interesting. I guess i didn't know there was a difference between a package that was automatically vs. explicitly installed. | 18:51 |
| cjwatson | apt-get autoremove | 18:51 |
| cjwatson | also apt-mark | 18:52 |
| giosue_c | ok. clearly i have some reading to do. :) | 18:53 |
| davmor2 | evand: including the FF book marks from IE favourites | 18:55 |
| evand | curious. | 18:56 |
| bdmurray | cjwatson: I just noticed that d-i asks about using ntp if you don't setup a network connection | 18:57 |
| bdmurray | cjwatson: Is that worth reporting? | 18:57 |
| davmor2 | evand: I got mail imap for google, bliss backdrop (making me puke) and FF bookmarks too | 19:01 |
| evand | heh, great | 19:01 |
| davmor2 | evand: http://www.davmor2.co.uk/FFbm.png | 19:06 |
| opapo | I am creating a custom Ubuntu CD | 19:41 |
| opapo | I can get it to boot, but it says it is not an ubuntu cd | 19:41 |
| opapo | I get an "Unknown suite Hardy" error using dfsbuild | 20:37 |
| opapo | everywhere where there is a suite or dlrepos there is a "hardy" | 20:38 |
| evand | cjwatson: Do you know of a way to shoehorn cdebconf onto the live cd environment? | 21:05 |
| cjwatson | just install the package of that name? should be coinstallable | 21:38 |
| cjwatson | opapo: that usually means you left out the (hidden) .disk directory on the CD, specifically .disk/info | 21:39 |
| cjwatson | bdmurray: mm, yes, probably - file it on clock-setup please | 21:40 |
| evand | that's what I figured, but it complains about being unable to initialize the database once I try to write to it. | 21:40 |
| cjwatson | you probably have to set one up by hand with its debconf-loadtemplate implementation | 21:40 |
| cjwatson | see Debian bug 451130 | 21:41 |
| evand | ah, I was actually just looking at that a moment ago. | 21:41 |
| evand | thanks! | 21:41 |
| opapo | cjwatson: I did not have .disk included | 22:05 |
| opapo | that did not work | 22:07 |
| cjwatson | evand: what are the cdebconf-specific things you ran across in localechooser? | 22:26 |
| cjwatson | oh, column alignment? | 22:26 |
| cjwatson | evand: I think we should probably add the directive and column alignment stuff to debconf ... | 22:49 |
| evand | that bit me at first, but I was referring to Choices-en.UTF-8 | 23:06 |
| cjwatson | that should be supported in debconf, I thought | 23:18 |
| evand | I thought so, but it appears to report back nothing. There definitely seems to be some disparity between localechooser in d-i and on the live cd as in the latter you don't end up with the correct default selections for the country questions. | 23:21 |
| evand | whereas it works just fine in d-i and the previous version works fine on the live cd. I appear to have everything it needs in the PATH, and I don't see anything else I might've set up wrong. | 23:22 |
| cjwatson | happy to have a look tomorrow if you can throw me over a WIP patch | 23:22 |
| evand | surely, will do | 23:23 |
| evand | and thanks | 23:23 |
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