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NuSkoolerQ: I currently have a Ubuntu with Mythbuntu installed "over the top" - I'd like to go to 8.04 "clean", but would like to use my _existing_ LVM configuration -- is this possible using the LiveCD?02:19
rhpot1991NuSkooler: just don't format your LVM and remount it yourself after the install02:19
rhpot1991its also worth noting that LVM isn't really needed anymore with storage groups02:19
rhpot1991you can gain all the features without the headaches of actually having a LVM02:20
NuSkoolerHrm, the data I have on the LMV could be moved off temporarily if storage groups would do the trick02:22
NuSkoolerHappen to have a link I could read a bit more about them?02:23
rhpot1991http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Storage_Groups02:23
rhpot1991basically you can add new drives as new storage groups, as you would extend your LVM in the past02:24
rhpot1991unless you are getting something else out the the LVM its prob not worth keeping around02:24
NuSkoolerNot really, that's about all I get out of it :D02:24
NuSkoolerIf storage groups give me something I can continue to throw HDD's at, sounds beauty02:24
NuSkoolerwow, so I can technically have groups made up of various file systems as well?02:28
rhpot1991ya all it cares about is that its mountable02:29
rhpot1991though I recommend a journaling file system still02:29
rhpot1991for speed purposes02:29
NuSkoolerSweet, I think I'm already sold02:29
NuSkoolerThank you :)02:30
rhpot1991no problem02:30
hadsNuSkooler: Another insteresting thing is that you can move recordings around in storage groups and myth will still find them.02:32
NuSkoolervery nice02:33
hadsAnd have a special group for live tv, I have a small live tv group so there's more space for recordings. Live TV just expires quickly.02:33
NuSkoolerBeing able to send the load of for e.g. live tv to a specific device is going to be slick02:38
phunyguyhello02:42
rhpot1991hads: why not just let live tv sit with the rest, it already expires quickly compared to recordings?02:47
hadsrhpot1991: It's a good way to use up a 40GB partition that's not doing anything else too :)02:50
rhpot1991I never really worry about live tv, then again I don't use it so thats why02:51
hadsI don't much either but my wife still likes to occasionally.02:52
* tgm4883_laptop had to enable the live tv timeout because people can't remember to exit out of live tv when they are done02:52
rhpot1991heh02:53
phunyguyahem...02:56
phunyguyHELLO.02:56
tgm4883_laptop!ask02:57
ZinnPlease don't ask if anyone is around or if it is alright to ask a question.  Many people check back periodically and may answer your question when they see it.  IRC is not normally an instant fix so check back often for an answer.02:57
tgm4883_laptop!ask | phunyguy02:57
Zinnphunyguy: Please don't ask if anyone is around or if it is alright to ask a question.  Many people check back periodically and may answer your question when they see it.  IRC is not normally an instant fix so check back often for an answer.02:57
phunyguylol?02:57
phunyguyi was just saying hello and nobody responded02:58
tgm4883_laptopyea02:58
tgm4883_laptopwe usually dont02:58
tgm4883_laptopmostly because we check back while doing other things02:58
tgm4883_laptopto answer questions, not usually to just chat02:58
phunyguymeh, no big deal, its just everyone always has strange rules02:58
phunyguyi had questions yesterday but i got it resolved myself02:59
phunyguyno thanks to the folks at the #mythtv channel02:59
phunyguyerr03:00
phunyguy#mythtv-users03:00
phunyguyheh!03:00
rhpot1991phunyguy: most of normally assume hello is just someone asking to ask a question and tend to ignore it if we are busy03:05
phunyguydont you guys just "chat" here ever?03:05
phunyguyor is this strictly support?03:06
rhpot1991it happens, depends03:06
phunyguyk...03:06
rhpot1991just gotta watch you aren't spamming the room while someone is getting help03:06
phunyguyoh, yeah, agreed.03:07
phunyguyat least you guys try to help.03:07
phunyguywhich is what its all about!03:07
phunyguylike I was saying, I asked for help on the mythtv-users channel and got 300 documents thrown at me, none of them containing what the solution actually was.03:07
phunyguyalso called an idiot03:08
phunyguyand a noob.03:08
phunyguyI love the open source community... :-/03:08
rhpot1991it happens03:09
phunyguyis this a good forum for making suggestions to the staff for features?03:09
rhpot1991phunyguy: could do it on the forums or in launchpad03:09
rhpot1991!forum03:09
ZinnThe Mythbuntu forum is located at: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=30103:09
phunyguythanks03:09
rhpot1991depending on what the suggestion is03:09
tgm4883_laptopphunyguy, it should be done on launchpad03:10
phunyguymy issue ended up being a lirc thing, i selected dvico USB remote because thats what I have, and it also had a field for "driver"03:10
rhpot1991https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mythbuntu03:10
tgm4883_laptopsoon it will be brainstorm ;)03:10
phunyguywhich defaulted to "dvico"03:10
rhpot1991might even be applicable as a bug03:10
phunyguybut that was incorrect, because that made it use my commandIR as a dvico03:10
phunyguyi wasnt using the DVICO reciever03:11
phunyguymaybe a noob thing, but like i said, none of the docs pointed out the driver option at all.03:11
phunyguyso meh.03:12
rhpot1991phunyguy: I find asking about specific hardware usually works better in the forums03:12
rhpot1991easier to find someone who has that hardware there03:12
rhpot1991unless its something super common03:12
phunyguyyeah, i also searched the forum, and up until last night, IRC always worked the best (for other software)03:12
phunyguyi thought this would be common - lol03:12
phunyguythey kept pushing me to check my lircd.conf again and again, because mode2 showed output  (was it the right output? no.)03:13
rhpot1991neat, bluefish for windows03:13
phunyguyhmmm...03:13
tgm4883_laptopbah03:14
rhpot1991bahing at me?03:14
tgm4883_laptoplaunchpad.net seems to be having issues03:14
phunyguyi even pointed out the hardware.conf and maybe a bad kernal module (i was close), then i got yelled at for guessing.03:14
Zinnphunyguy: Please watch your language.03:14
rhpot1991ut oh03:14
rhpot1991hmmm what set that off now03:14
phunyguywat?03:14
phunyguylol.03:14
phunyguywhat did I say??03:14
rhpot1991I'll let you know in a bit03:14
rhpot1991tgm4883_laptop: I'm beginning to think that language filtering is a bad idea :(03:15
phunyguylol maybe03:15
phunyguy*shrug*03:15
tgm4883_laptopwhat the hecK?03:15
tgm4883_laptophardware03:15
phunyguyi thought i slipped, lol.03:15
tgm4883_laptoppointed03:15
tgm4883_laptopguessing03:15
rhpot1991hold on I'll find it, need to fire up the test bot03:15
tgm4883_laptopbad kernal03:15
tgm4883_laptop then i got yelled at for guessing.03:15
phunyguyuhhh?03:15
rhpot1991hard something I bet03:15
tgm4883_laptop i even pointed out the hardware.conf and03:16
Zinntgm4883_laptop: Please watch your language.03:16
phunyguyhardware03:16
tgm4883_laptophardware.conf03:16
Zinntgm4883_laptop: Please watch your language.03:16
tgm4883_laptopheh03:16
phunyguyLOL.03:16
tgm4883_laptop.conf03:16
phunyguynice03:16
rhpot1991he found hard on in "I installed hardy i386 on my computer"03:16
Zinnrhpot1991: Please watch your language.03:16
phunyguyhardware03:16
rhpot1991hard on in hardware.conf03:16
Zinnrhpot1991: Please watch your language.03:16
* rhpot1991 shakes his head03:16
phunyguyi broke my "hardware" last night03:16
phunyguy*gasp*03:17
phunyguyHAH03:17
phunyguythats what it is03:17
phunyguyHARDware.cONf03:17
Zinnphunyguy: Please watch your language.03:17
phunyguytake the caps out and put it seperate03:17
rhpot1991phunyguy: makes everything lowercase before it compares03:17
phunyguynot the point03:17
phunyguyit saw "hard on"03:17
Zinnphunyguy: Please watch your language.03:17
rhpot1991ya03:17
phunyguy:P03:18
phunyguyhow the heck...lol... nevermind.03:18
tgm4883_laptopthats not a bad word ;)03:18
rhpot1991I'm beginning to think we might just need a hardcoded bad word list, and not get fancy03:18
phunyguywhats wrong with bad words anyway?03:18
phunyguy:-/03:19
phunyguyim not conservative03:19
rhpot1991phunyguy: ubuntu channels are family rated03:19
rhpot1991some people get out of control03:19
phunyguyoh?03:19
hadshttp://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct03:19
phunyguynice03:19
phunyguyhad no idea03:19
hadsIt's probably easier if humans do the naughty word moderating03:20
phunyguylol.03:20
rhpot1991hads: ya, but a lot of times humans who care aren't here03:20
rhpot1991or paying attention03:20
hadsTrue. A hard coded list is probably sufficient for those times though.03:21
phunyguyok, here is an easy question, what is a tolerable BPP value when encoding to divx..?03:21
phunyguyi have been doing it by fitting it to a CD...03:21
phunyguybut for this box i may make a change, and make it based on quality03:22
phunyguywhile maintaining 5.1 surround03:22
phunyguythinking around 0.12 which would make a 2 hour movie about a gig...03:23
phunyguybut 400 megs of that is audio, lol03:23
rhpot1991I've never used BPP, but I use 600kbps for my ipod encodes03:23
phunyguyok, is that the same as v-rate?03:23
rhpot1991which is prob overkill at that point too03:23
phunyguybecause at 0.12 its around 70003:24
phunyguyand a 2:08:00 movie is 1064 megs03:24
phunyguy640 meg to video and 414 meg to audio03:24
phunyguy(AC3)03:24
rhpot1991I've done it as variable and as (not sure this is the right term) flat03:24
phunyguyconstant?03:24
rhpot1991that sounds better03:24
phunyguy:)03:24
rhpot1991it all depends on your display03:25
phunyguymeh i guess i'll just do 0.12, and i do all my TV shows as 0.1003:25
phunyguywell it's a 42" plasma 1080p03:25
rhpot1991high def you might want to try it higher, I'd say just mess around and try to play them back03:25
phunyguybut the 700 meg rips look fine - (128kbit 2 ch mp3 tho)03:25
rhpot1991see what works well and stick with it03:25
phunyguyyeah03:25
phunyguyok.03:26
phunyguywhat about deinterlacing?03:26
phunyguy(using dvd::rip btw)03:26
rhpot1991I've only really done mythtv recordings to some sort of mpeg403:26
Joemama_got my box working03:26
rhpot1991so deinterlacing hasn't been a problem03:26
Joemama_got a pvr-15003:26
phunyguyshould i do mpeg4 for the movies?03:27
rhpot1991I believe that ffmpeg can do some deinterlacing for you03:27
phunyguyi guessi really don't need divx...03:27
rhpot1991divx is mpeg403:27
rhpot1991I prefer xvid, but thats just personal preference03:27
Joemama_only problem im having, is at the top of the screen when watching tv, at the very top, the top row of pixels is like partially bright even when it shouldnt be03:27
phunyguywell thats actually what I am using03:27
Joemama_hard to explain03:27
phunyguyxvid03:27
phunyguyshould i stick with that?03:28
rhpot1991ya xvid is fine03:28
phunyguyk03:28
phunyguyxvid4?03:28
rhpot1991Joemama_: you need to make your video overscan03:28
phunyguynormal xvid looked bad to me03:28
phunyguysaw a lot of motion errors03:28
rhpot1991phunyguy: what are you using to do this, just dvd::rip?03:28
phunyguyyeah03:28
Joemama_rhpot1991 where do i do that at?03:28
phunyguyacutally ripping via dvd decrypter and wine03:29
rhpot1991Joemama_: what kind of video card do you have?03:29
Joemama_shit03:29
phunyguythen opening the files03:29
Joemama_its onboard03:29
Joemama_nothing good03:29
phunyguyWatch your language03:29
phunyguy:)03:29
rhpot1991heh03:29
phunyguyif i cant say hard on....03:29
rhpot1991ya he misses that one, oddly03:29
Zinnphunyguy: Please watch your language.03:29
phunyguyHAH!03:29
phunyguysee?03:29
rhpot1991Joemama_: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Overscan03:29
Joemama_thanx03:29
rhpot1991np03:29
phunyguyi wonder if there is a way to make this bitrate default in dvd::rip03:30
rhpot1991phunyguy: have you tried ripping in mythtv itself?03:30
rhpot1991with mythvideo03:30
phunyguyim thinking about not keeping a DVD copy of my movies03:30
phunyguywell im not fully set up yet and this is a more powerful PC, not to mention the movies are stored on this PC  (acting as my fileserver)03:30
rhpot1991I do all mine as iso's but I don't care about space03:31
phunyguyi guess it can't hurt to try one03:31
phunyguyyeah I think I am going to go straight divx03:31
rhpot1991the mythvideo ripper is pretty nice, but it has problems with some copy protected ones03:31
phunyguyerrr xvid03:31
phunyguybah.03:32
rhpot1991it can do xvid for you and all03:32
phunyguyxvid4?03:32
phunyguylet me go try one03:32
rhpot1991not sure03:32
rhpot1991phunyguy: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MythDVD03:32
rhpot1991mythdvd no longer exists, it got merged with mythvideo, but that will give you an idea03:33
phunyguyi dont see an option to set bitrate03:34
phunyguyoh is that a plugin?03:35
rhpot1991just make sure you have mythvideo installed03:38
rhpot1991it describes the quality settings in that link03:38
phunyguyim using the standard install of mythbuntu...03:38
rhpot1991dpkg -l mythvideo |grep ^ii03:39
phunyguyits there03:42
phunyguy0.21.0+fixes16838-0ubuntu203:42
phunyguyhmm...  i did find the rip settings but it didnt have a bitrate option03:43
rhpot1992ya just a quality setting03:43
phunyguyi dont even see that - lol.03:44
phunyguyargh hang on03:44
phunyguylol i found it03:45
phunyguyits actually where you rip the DVDs03:45
phunyguynot in the setup area03:46
phunyguyhow do you know if it is having issues with an encrypted disc?03:47
phunyguyit seemed to finish awfully fast03:47
rhpot1992it wont create the file03:47
rhpot1992you can normally see errors in the mtd.log03:47
rhpot1992locate mtd.log03:47
rhpot1992should point you at that03:47
phunyguyjusat says job failed.03:48
phunyguyread failed for 21 blocks at 103:49
phunyguyargh, how do you copy text in xterm...03:49
phunyguyor aterm...03:49
phunyguycrap which is it03:49
phunyguybut yeah, no useful information.03:49
tgm4883_laptopI believe you can set the bitrate in mythweb03:49
phunyguyit didnt even rip03:50
phunyguyOH let me check the player comand03:50
phunyguyi was messing with that03:50
phunyguynah ill just use dvd::rip03:53
phunyguyit works good03:53
phunyguyseems more configurable right now03:54
phunyguymaybe i will help build up the mythvideo portion....03:54
phunyguyhmmm - dvd::rip doesnt like this DVD either03:55
phunyguymeh dvd decrypter works03:57
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ghotiboy1hi...i updated my distro to hearty and forgot to keep it from updating mythtv on a frontend04:56
ghotiboy1what is the easiest way to revert back?04:56
ghotiboy1i'm not running mythbuntu...04:57
ghotiboy1my backend is .20.204:57
ghotiboy1frontend now .2104:57
stoneymonsterhey all, when doing a debuild, I get tons of messages like this:05:08
stoneymonsterdpkg-shlibdeps: warning: debian/mythtv-frontend/usr/lib/mythtv/filters/libforce.so shouldn't be linked with libstdc++.so.6 (it uses none of its symbols).05:08
stoneymonsternormal?05:08
ghotiboy1anyone know how to revert back to an older mythtv on a frontend?05:15
ghotiboy1well, i think i found the answer...synaptic05:19
ghotiboy1hopefully that works05:19
nvchi, is this the chan for mythbuntu?06:44
tgm4883_laptopnvc, yes06:46
nvcok cool06:46
nvci have an issue, my database info is correct in the settings but when i goto 'watch tv' it says 'could not connec to master back end server'06:47
nvcany ideas?06:47
RungeKuttanvc: heh, you just asked that in #mythtv-users - the answer they gave will work06:57
nvcmy buffer was cleared trying to log off to fix a problem07:07
nvccould you paste it to me07:07
setitehello all10:30
tazstahi guys just wondering if anyone knows of a good cheap desktop case that looks nice?11:03
Belboz99Hey all, does anyone know how to configure xorg for a 1080p TV?  It's a Samsung, thanks!15:39
superm1the EDID of the TV should handle this for you15:45
superm1you may not be able to do it correctly over HDMI however15:45
superm1try VGA first15:45
superm1Belboz99, ^15:48
MythbuntuGuest77superm1, have you heard of hdmi being wierd by not working unless you plug the hdmi in half way through boot16:30
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Ubunt1Could anyone help me troubleshoot my on-board soundcard? I've tried millions of things, yet it refuses to make any sound :(18:12
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setitehow do i scan properly.. im getting Timeout Scanning [TP or Transport ID] -- no tables19:43
setiteits with a genpix skywalker 119:44
setitei think ive done all the proper patching19:44
setiteim new to myth.. but not ubuntu.. though i dont use it daily19:44
setitediseqc is working19:45
setiteit recognizes the satellite i'm pointed at, be it Echostar 110, 119 or 129...  then it says the Network Net ID.,.. then it sits at 5% scan progress for a while till it failes19:45
mario_limonciellkees, would you be able to sponsor http://paste.ubuntu.com/24539/ ?  It appears to have been the cause of a few failed upgrades that i've been seeing20:57
keesmario_limonciell: sure, one sec21:04
mario_limonciellgreat thx21:04
jphillipmario_limonciell bad word filtering is an epic failure :(21:10
mario_limoncielljphillip, why what's happening to it?21:10
jphilliphardware.conf21:10
Zinnjphillip: Please watch your language.21:10
mario_limonciellneed to kick zinn?21:10
jphillipnah, just the module I used sucks21:10
jphillipsees hard on in hardware.conf21:11
Zinnjphillip: Please watch your language.21:11
jphillipand in "I installed hardy i386 on my computer"21:11
Zinnjphillip: Please watch your language.21:11
mario_limonciellyikes21:11
jphillipya21:11
mario_limonciellyeah lets get him out of here for now21:11
mario_limonciellrhpot1991, can take care of that later21:12
jphillipthinking I might just have to make a list of bad words, capture them and not get creative21:12
laga   maybe it matches hard.*on.*21:29
Zinnlaga: Please watch your language.21:29
lagaHARDware.cONf ;)21:29
Zinnlaga: Please watch your language.21:29
lagahard21:29
lagahardware21:29
lagahard on21:29
Zinnlaga: Please watch your language.21:29
lagahah21:29
lagai rule21:29
lagahardon21:29
Zinnlaga: Please watch your language.21:29
jphilliphardware.conf21:34
foxbuntuHARDware.cONf21:36
foxbuntulol21:36
jphilliphe isn't doing curses for the time being :(21:36
foxbuntupoor poor zinn21:36
foxbuntuyou sure?21:36
foxbuntucrap21:36
foxbuntuut oh21:37
jphillipyep21:37
foxbuntuhes broken21:37
jphillipno he isn't21:37
phlegmJust upgraded my front and backend boxes to mythbuntu from Fedora 3. (It's been a while) Nice work Ubuntu guy's. The setup was a breeze and everything is working. Almost. I just spent hours trying to get my X-10 mp3anywhere remote working with no luck. Anybody feel like offering some hints. I'm all googled out and rtfm'd out.22:46
phlegmlooking for help setting up an x10 remote.23:40

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