/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/07/02/#ubuntu-ops.txt

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bazhangOnly two people watching #ubuntu? Hmmm.00:14
nickrudnalioth is too accommodating00:16
bazhangat least according to the mailing list.00:18
nickrudheh. You are never there, never there00:19
bazhangnor are you, Jack, Myr-tti00:19
nickrudspeak of the devil00:19
bazhangwe're just ghosts. :)00:19
nickrudbazhang, mostly its about the time period.00:20
bazhangnickrud, aye, and for the time period in question there are plenty of folks around-->which is why the 'there are only two looking in' meme is so confusing to me, as that is clearly not the case.00:20
nickrudI'm occasionally around during the early part of that period, but only by chance00:20
nickrudyou, I'd expect that's your prime time. You're early today00:21
bazhangJack is around all the time, as is Myr-tti00:21
nickrudbazhang, for Jack and I, that's overnight. We're in bed (as any sane person would be, don't care where you live ;)00:22
bazhangheh. Well I have been spending way too much on IRC; if that counts as 'not looking in', then perhaps time for a break from it all :)00:23
nickrudcrap00:25
Jack_Sparrowfujisan is already banned in offtopic, kubuntu, kde4 and in ops, I just added ubuntu..  we should remove the ban in ops unless he has already been kicked for behavior here as well00:56
buffalochickenyou should try buffalo chicken01:38
mneptokthat's nice, dear.01:38
mneptok*patpat*01:38
buffalochickenits spicy01:45
buffalochickenand hot01:45
naliothtoo accomodating of what?03:44
nickrudplush toys03:50
bazhangandy_> when i insall perl i dont see it on my Applications list why ???? anyone ?04:45
Hobbseebecause ti doesn't have a .desktop file, and he needs to run it from the command line?04:46
ajmitchHobbsee: it doesn't come with a shiny IDE? how disappointing04:46
Hobbseeheh04:46
bazhanghe cant be that confused04:46
nickrudsilly ops04:46
ajmitchpython at least has idle :)04:47
nickrudseems the bots aren't catching floods04:47
nickrudah, there they go. just really laggy04:47
SNuxollcan someone deal with endafy in -ot04:48
* SNuxoll is not in the mood to shout !ops in the middle of a very inflamed argument right now04:48
* nickrud considers it, since it's all he can do04:49
SNuxollnickrud: ?04:50
nickrudops!04:50
SNuxolllol04:50
naliothanyone have ljls email address?04:51
SNuxollwell, he seems to have stopped so I'll bid yo adio05:01
nickrudnalioth if you've not found ljl's address yet, check my pm05:02
Hobbseei'm sure Jack_Sparrow can deal with any problems.05:11
Jack_SparrowHobbsee dont look at me.. I dont have ops in there05:11
bazhangneither do I, though would be glad to have them :)05:13
* nickrud is of two minds on that. Need ops there, I don't spend any time there to speak of05:13
Jack_SparrowWe have had a couple of proples come from there lately and no ops around05:13
Jack_SparrowDont need another channel .. especially one that needs babysitting05:14
bazhangits more than having ops there though, need to actually *interact* to keep the natives calm.05:14
nickrudok, how to I revert to a previous factoid (stupid git, me)05:15
bazhang!bazhang05:16
ubottuabuser.05:16
nickrudhahah05:16
bazhang!no forget bazhang05:16
ubottubazhang: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)05:16
nickrudwe'll never be able to forget bazhang05:17
bazhang!forget bazhang05:17
ubottuI'll forget that, bazhang05:17
bazhanglike so ^^ :)05:17
nickrudI did a !ask | and it took a new meaning. Already fixed ;(05:17
Hobbseenickrud: i don't much either, yet still manage to be remembered.  go figure.05:17
nickrudoh, that is a cruel statement.05:18
Hobbsee?05:18
nickrudeither05:18
Hobbseeoh, that referred to the comment: [14:13] * nickrud is of two minds on that. Need ops there, I don't spend any time there to speak of05:19
Hobbseedamn this typing-in-two-channels business.05:19
nickrudah, wrong comment reply ;)05:19
bazhangoh the 'not enough ops' controversy05:19
nickrudheh. When I got asked, I already knew that was the case05:20
nickrudbarrel scraping and all that05:20
bazhangfar from it.05:20
bazhangla creme de la creme :)05:20
nickrudold, stale cream does float05:21
nickrudbazhang take a look at aphroneo.net, do you see a hardy source link and the fsf email signup?05:22
nickrudnm05:22
bazhanghttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24392/ nickrud05:23
nickrudbazhang ok, he can see it. Just wasn't looking well05:23
bazhangcheers nickrud :)05:24
nickrudproviding/fixing sources.list was how I first got involved in this. The tools are much better now, but it still helps to have one on the net to point at ;)05:25
bazhangI am bookmarking that link :)05:26
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ubottuIn ubottu, nikrud said: nikrud is preferred05:35
nikrudgotta get that nik attached to launchpad I guess05:35
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Hobbseeanyone got any major objections if i forward kahrytan back to #ubuntu from #ubuntu-devel?06:27
Hobbseethe driveby requests, uselessness, and/or general offtopicness of what he's saying aren't really appreciated06:28
Hobbseeprobably ditto -motu06:28
naliothforward him back?06:30
Hobbseeas in, banforward to #ubuntu06:32
ubottuunop called the ops in #ubuntu (pornlover)06:33
jpdsHobbsee: wouldn't a normal ban cut it?06:38
Hobbseejpds: i'm sure it could, but i don't see the point?06:38
Hobbseeeither way, he'll still complain06:39
jussi01Hobbsee: that sounds a sane solution to me07:00
Tm_THobbsee: I'd say "please"07:04
HobbseeTm_T: hmm?07:06
Tm_THobbsee: plasea banforward him07:07
Tm_Tplease even, mmh, nice typo07:07
Hobbseeahh07:07
nickrudHobbsee please don't ;(07:08
Hobbseenickrud: why?07:09
nickrudI like not seeing him, you keep him ;)07:09
nickrudor maybe to offtopic07:09
Hobbseeheh07:10
Hobbseehe's in there anyway, i thought?07:10
naliothif he's being disruptive, please advise him of such.  if he continues, ban him where he is being disruptive07:11
nickrudjust a general complaint, probably better lost in the flow in #ubuntu. He'll probably just dance on that edge there again07:11
nickrudhe's gotten much better at that.07:11
Hobbseenalioth: yes, i figured.07:11
bazhanghe's banned in offtopic07:14
bazhangwhat's the vietnam channel? is there one?07:40
naliothbazhang: #ubuntu-vn ?07:41
bazhangnobody there but thanks nalioth07:42
Myrttimoin07:57
bazhangicq does not work in pidgin; be forewarned :)08:14
Myrttiah, but it does08:14
Myrttithere is a patch for it08:14
bazhangreally? got a link Myrtti ?08:15
Myrttihttp://www.joeterranova.net/2008/07/01/icq-woes-for-pidgin/08:15
bazhangsweet :)08:15
MyrttiI personally just yesterday recompiled my bitlbee from bzr and it appears as if the icq woes for it have been fixed too08:16
Hobbseeelkbuntu: dude, that ApOgEE guy is creepy :-S08:32
* Myrtti noms on her coconut pancakes10:18
Myrttinomnom10:19
elkbuntuHobbsee, what did he do?10:51
Hobbsee[15:13] --> kahrytan has joined this channel (n=kahrytan@unaffiliated/kahrytan).10:52
Hobbsee[15:14] <kahrytan> When is Ubuntu going to start using gfxboot  with grub? openSUSE and Linux Mint have the right idea. grub in ubuntu is ugly. and makes ubuntu look unpolished.10:52
Hobbsee[15:15] <-- kahrytan has left this server (Client Quit).10:52
Hobbseeis the most recent.10:52
Hobbseehe's been in and out of there, prattling on, for days.10:52
* Hobbsee has warned him about being offtopic once so far, but given no other warnings.10:52
elkbuntuHobbsee, i was referring to apogee but i assume that was -devel?10:53
Hobbseeit apperas his idea of help (which he took to #ubuntu-motu, for some reason) for the isntaller was to say that the ubuntu installer wasn't very good, and that someone should make it look like $otherdistro because it was better.  no reasons given as to why.10:54
Hobbseeoh, my error.10:54
Hobbseeelkbuntu: just how he keeps greeting you.  then tries greeting persia10:54
goukiHi. If someone sets a new cloak for my nickname, will I lose Ubuntu's cloak or both of them will be displayed?10:54
elkbuntuwell, ubuntu's grub is ugly, but the entitled attitude is uglier, yes10:55
* Hobbsee thought his commetns in the meeting were a bit...strange...too10:55
elkbuntuHobbsee, you'll probably find that to be bad english10:55
Hobbseewell, my thought was that a) he was in the wrong place, and b) he had no actual things on how to make it better.10:55
Hobbseei meant the part towards the end, where he wanted to know all about you personally, as you'd been interviewing him.10:55
elkbuntuHobbsee, both are part of the attitude10:55
Hobbseetrue10:56
Myrttigouki: hi10:56
goukiHi Myrtti10:56
elkbuntuHobbsee, ah, that10:56
Myrttigouki: presumably, but you'd prolly get an answer quicker in #freenode10:56
Hobbseeelkbuntu: yeah - something i wouldn't attribute to bad english10:57
Hobbseegouki: they can be merged together - people like PriceChild's are10:57
elkbuntuHobbsee, i'd attribute it to different culture though10:57
Hobbseeiirc10:57
Hobbseeelkbuntu: quite possibly.10:57
elkbuntuHobbsee, cloak merging seems to only happen under very select certain circumstances10:58
Hobbseeah10:58
goukielkbuntu, who controls it?10:58
elkbuntuin my knowledgebase, it involves only pdpc donation cloaks, or staff - i might be wrong and they might flex it more now10:58
elkbuntugouki, freenode.10:58
elkbuntugouki, we dont really get much say in it10:58
goukielkbuntu, got it. Well, thank you all for the support. I'll try my luck in #freenode10:59
elkbuntugl!11:00
* Myrtti rolls her eyes12:28
Myrtti!away > ara_lunch12:29
ubottuara_lunch, please see my private message12:29
MyrttiI know I'm mean12:29
* jussi01 sighs, he is doing it again: [14:53:55] <flaccid> CostaRicanQuaker, its probably too hard for you.12:55
bazhangwow12:56
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* Myrtti wiggles her fingers13:00
MyrttiTHAT JUST SETS ME OFF THE EDGE13:00
bazhanghe wont answer *my* question (must think its too hard for me)13:04
jussi01bazhang: never mind him13:05
jussi01he is just being flaccid...13:05
* jussi01 sighs and goes back to work...13:05
bazhangoh the sudo su :(13:06
jussi01ok, really going back to work now13:07
* Pici thinks flaccid should be brought in here the next time he says something like that13:10
* bazhang thinks it should have happened long ago13:10
jussi01bazhang: it has13:10
Myrttiwasn't he here just monday13:11
Myrtti...13:11
* Pici demands justice13:11
Myrttiwithout ANY success13:11
bazhangto no apparent effect13:11
* Pici also demands candy13:11
* Myrtti gives Pici a grape13:11
Myrttinomnom13:11
* Pici noms13:11
bazhanggot to eat; back in a bit13:12
jussi01Pici: are you still around?13:13
Picijussi01: yep13:14
jussi01Pici: watch kubuntu for me if you have a min - I really have to work, and Eaglescreen is giving random bad advice13:14
jussi01oh cripes, ban me or something, I have to do work!13:21
MyrttiI'd emp you but I don't have powah13:21
jussi01!-aptfix13:22
ubottuaptfix is <alias> aptlock - added by LjL on 2007-02-01 18:43:04 - last edited by LjL on 2007-10-21 15:34:2313:22
jussi01!fixapt is <alias>aptlock13:22
ubottuI'll remember that, jussi0113:23
jussi01yay for lag13:23
MyrttiGO TO WORK YOU LAZY IRC BUM DONT YOU HAVE ANYTHING BETTER TO DO!13:23
* Myrtti takes a hot poker13:23
PiciYes ma'am13:23
MyrttiWORK13:23
PiciMUSH13:23
* Myrtti prods jussi01 13:23
MyrttiWORK DAMNIT13:23
Myrtti*pssssshhh*13:23
MyrttiI think that might have done the trick13:27
jussi01not looking at #kubuntu not looking at #kubuntu not looking at #kubuntu13:30
* Myrtti waves the hot poker13:30
* Myrtti prods again13:30
Myrtti*PSSSSHHH*13:30
jussi01ouch!!13:30
Myrttiwork13:31
Myrttimmmmmm13:38
bazhangbattling misinformation13:40
Piciwhere?13:41
bazhangie two sources battling it out to give the least helpful advice13:41
bazhangeaglescreen and flaccid13:41
bazhangalthough flaccid is not so much misinforming as just dismissive13:42
MyrttiI need a slap13:44
PiciMyrtti: whys that?13:45
elkbuntusometimes i wish certain people would stick to their threats..13:46
MyrttiPici: oooooooh, nevermind13:46
jussi01elkbuntu: huh?13:50
elkbuntujussi01, some of the ones who threaten to stop 'helping'13:51
jussi01:) yeah13:51
jussi01Id agree with that13:51
PiciI didnt even know this many people still used ICQ13:55
ubottuIn ubottu, Pici said: icqbug is <reply> A fix for ICQ within Pidgin is currently underway.  Within a few days we should see it moved into the -updates repository.14:06
* Pici slaps ubottu 14:06
jussi01Pici: @login14:12
Picijussi01: I did14:23
jussi01Pici: does it still not work?14:23
Picijussi01: no, it does.14:27
Picijussi01: I didnt didnt do it before14:27
* Myrtti hmmmmles14:43
Myrttihttp://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/tags/aceraspire3100/14:43
|v|4s7e|2how do i set a folder and all sub files and folders readable and writable to everyon15:03
ikonia|v|4s7e|2: join the channel #ubuntu to get ubuntu support15:06
Pici|v|4s7e|2: You appear to be forwarded to #ubuntu-ops because of your quit message15:06
Pici|v|4s7e|2: Would you please change it to something less offensive?15:08
|v|4s7e|2oops, i did, sumtin mustv happened, ill change it15:09
|v|4s7e|2it shouldhave been "leaving" for about 2 days15:09
PiciThe last times you left it was "kiss my ass"15:10
|v|4s7e|2a while ago15:10
|v|4s7e|2its leaving now15:10
|v|4s7e|2hangon, ill exit and rejoin, tell me what it is15:10
|v|4s7e|2what was it?15:11
Pici"Leaving"15:11
|v|4s7e|2good15:11
PiciYou're all set for #ubuntu now :)15:11
|v|4s7e|2thanx15:11
PiciOS_X: How can we help you today?15:12
OS_Xoh sorry, i just wanted to see what it was like in this room15:12
ikoniaHas anyone got the most current version of auto_bleh.pl ?15:13
PiciOS_X: Well, I'll call your attention to the channel topic then.15:13
Piciikonia: I dont use it, sorry. Just aliases here for irssi./15:13
OS_Xoh ok15:13
ikoniaPici: your rare then ;)15:13
ikoniajust dragged a version down from the web but it's borked15:14
ikoniaI may follow your example pici15:14
Picihttp://nullcortex.com/2008/06/23/irssi-aliases-scripts/15:14
Myrttiikonia: I don't use that script either15:15
ikoniathen your clearly l33t15:16
MyrttiI used to use it, but it sucks15:16
MyrttiOS_X: so...15:16
ikoniaPici: good little page, thanks15:16
OS_Xyea15:17
OS_Xwell i'll tell you one thing guys, Ubuntu is soooo much better than windows15:17
Myrttiinnit?! X-D15:17
OS_Xmore stable and better performance15:17
OS_Xvista sucks15:17
* Myrtti pokes Pici15:18
PiciYessss?15:18
OS_Xyes :)15:18
MyrttiOS_X: so that's great to hear15:19
MyrttiOS_X: anything else, especially regarding /topic?15:19
PiciOS_X: If you're looking for a chat channel about ubuntu, may I point you to #ubuntu-offtopic.  -ops is for operator issues only.15:19
OS_Xoh ok, i apologize for interupting this channel15:21
OS_Xi'll definitely have a look in that room15:21
Myrttino probs :-)15:21
Jack_SparrowMyrti can you fix the !icqbug factoid to let people know 2.4.3 is in getdeb.net and is patched to again work with icq15:26
Myrtti!icqbug15:26
ubottuA fix for ICQ within Pidgin is currently underway.  Within a few days we should see it moved into the -updates repository.15:26
PiciI'm not sure if we should be pointing people to getdeb though15:27
Myrttierm, why should we ... exactly15:27
ikoniaPici: I'm sure pidgin is being patched and re-packaged as we speak15:29
ikoniaPici: just need a pidigin maintainer to confirm it15:29
Piciikonia: It is, I spoke to -motu earlier about the SRU15:30
ikoniaahhh well done15:30
ikoniaso I guess the advice is "sit tight"15:30
Jack_SparrowFor how long15:30
PiciJust that -proposed is currently locked due to the impending 8.04.1 release, but once that is done it will be moved there and then shortly after into -updates.15:31
PiciJack_Sparrow: The best ETA I could get was 'a few days'15:31
MyrttiOS_X: so, anything else?15:31
ikoniaPici: thats not a bad turn around15:31
PiciI'm guessing less than a week.15:31
Pici!idle | OS_X15:31
ubottuOS_X: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries.15:31
ikoniaas long as it doesn't drag on like the flash episode15:31
Jack_SparrowNOt having icq for a week would be devastating for some users.. I dont use it.. but the people I know that do.. are addicted to it like it was crack15:32
jussi01ikonia: did you get the latest autobleh? if not join #dib5sn and check the topic :)15:32
ikoniaJack_Sparrow: yup, it can be a problem15:32
ikoniajussi01: I'll look now, thanks15:32
Picisuch is life15:32
ubottuFloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)15:33
ubottuFloodBot4 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)15:33
Jack_SparrowPerhaps write a more complete factoid suggesting they wait but if not..15:33
Jack_SparrowHow many days has icq not worked?15:34
Pici2?15:34
Myrttiok ok ok here it comes15:34
Myrtti!prayer15:35
ubottuDear $DEITY, Give me strength to understand and work with users who question my logic, the rules, netiquette and common sense. Give me resilience to teach them the basics of Linux, Ubuntu, Community Guidelines and IRC. Allow me not to stray to nitpicking, argument, foul language or leisure op abuse. Deliver me my daily xkcd, User Friendly, LWN, /. and Planet Ubuntu, and guard over my encrypted drives. Let it be so.15:35
Myrtti*sigh*15:35
PiciMyrtti: -offtopic ?15:35
Myrttiyeah15:35
Jack_SparrowPici or less15:35
PiciJack_Sparrow: 2 at the max./15:35
* Myrtti screams15:35
Jack_SparrowIm having a bit of a reaction to my meds at the moment..  back in a few15:36
Myrttimy bwain huwts15:36
Myrtti;___;15:37
ikonia!idle | OS_X15:37
ubottuOS_X: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries.15:37
MyrttiI cries!15:37
MyrttiI give up _o_15:40
MyrttiI guess my tolerance on newbs today isn't at its best15:41
Jack_SparrowI have been grumpy since I had to bury Hardy.. my pet Heron15:43
Jack_Sparrowhttp://img389.imageshack.us/img389/1088/dsc24991400fz1.jpg15:51
PiciJack_Sparrow: I dont see a heron in that15:54
Jack_Sparrowjust his head.. wrong pic  one sec15:56
Jack_Sparrowhttp://img105.imageshack.us/img105/5937/dsc25052000vx3.jpg15:58
Jack_SparrowPici see him in that one16:01
PiciJack_Sparrow: :(16:11
Jack_SparrowJust a fledgling, but still it broke my heart.. all five of the others are doing well16:11
jbroomeWondering if the  ban *!*@silenceisdefeat.org [by ompaul!n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul, 2792961 secs ago]  can be lifted.  sd.org is a free shell service, seems a shame to ban all the users16:40
jussi01jbroome: ompaul isnt here at the moment, but you will need to ask him. he usually come in soon though.16:42
Jack_Sparrowjbroome are those not the most abusive users hiding behind there16:42
naliothjbroome: the abuse to 'good user' ratio is very high from that vector16:45
* Pici agrees16:46
Jack_SparrowPici what was that one that we worked to allow middbit or something16:47
Picimibbit, yes. But thats not a web gateway, not a free shell service.16:48
Jack_SparrowPici the bots were re-written to apply an exempt for them16:48
Jack_Sparrowah16:48
PiciYes. They get forwarded to #ubuntu-proxy-users and the bots apply ban exemptions in #ubuntu for them.16:49
jbroomeAhh, gotcha.  glad i have a cloak then. :)16:54
* Pici watches God420 17:02
Jack_SparrowStill not sure what he did besides try to run warcrqaft17:06
Jack_Sparrownone of that should have changed his partitions or boot17:06
PiciI'm not sure if hes trolling or not17:07
PiciI suspect he is17:16
Jack_SparrowI vote troll..17:22
mneptoki vote Kodos17:34
Picisoundray: I'm thinking the same as you, I have a feeling17:35
soundrayI'm a bit upset about this -- I feel abused17:35
Myrttihave I missed out on something?17:35
Picisoundray: banned17:36
soundrayThanks Pici17:36
Picisoundray: sorry it had to go for this long17:36
Pici12:36:43 <?Prometheum7> What did you request me to get kicked for?17:36
Pici12:37:02 <Pici> I didn't request it, I did it.  If you have an issue you can ask in #ubuntu-ops17:36
soundrayMyrtti: this guy was pretending to look for help, pastebinning contradictory stuff etc. -- now after a nick change, he's dishing out advice17:37
Myrttiah, right17:37
Myrttigot confused there17:37
soundrayMyrtti: very much beginner type questions17:37
MyrttiI suddenly remembered why I'm feeling so out of sorts and queezy and ready to collapse - I've not taken my meds in two days and the nearby pharmacy is closed17:38
PiciDefinite troll. Hes looking up my nickserv info17:38
MyrttiI think I'll just -- zone out for tonight17:38
Myrttismack me if I do something incoherent17:38
PiciI'm going for lunch, feel free to work with him if he come sin there17:39
soundrayEnjoy you lunch, and thanks again for your quick help17:39
Myrttiwill try17:39
soundray*your17:39
soundrayMyrtti: doesn't seem like this person will be joining.17:46
ikoniawould someone verify a potential bug I've just logged17:50
ikoniaI don't want to ask in "busy" channels in case I am correct17:50
ikoniait has security implications17:50
PriceChildif you marked it as a security bug its hidden from us17:51
ikoniaI appriciate that, hence why I thought I'd "ask" someone to just check/test it17:51
ikoniait worked on a test server I have here17:51
ikoniabut that could be a borked install (I'm %99.9 it's not)17:51
jussi01ikonia: if its not ubuntu specific (ie. i have kubuntu) i can17:52
ikoniajussi01: be good to know - check the permissions on /sbin/shutdown for me please17:52
ikoniais it world executable17:52
Picihttp://pastebin.com/f32c408c517:52
PriceChild-rwxr-xr-x17:52
ikonianot good17:53
PiciAnyway, the troll's hostname was in use by two nicks, one of which was in #hacktalk17:53
PiciI dont plan on responding via pm.17:53
ikoniaPriceChild: jussi01 thanks, bug logged17:54
PriceChildikonia: how does that thing check if you're root?17:57
ikoniaPriceChild: it doesn't17:57
ikoniawell17:57
PriceChildit does...17:57
ikoniathats not true17:57
ikoniayes, your right - it does17:57
PriceChild$ /sbin/shutdown now17:57
PriceChildshutdown: Need to be root17:57
ikoniano no- your right17:58
ikoniait does it off your UID,17:58
ikoniahowever in domain situations LDAP/NIS thats easy to change17:58
ikoniaeg: your "admin" UID is set and doesn't have to be 017:59
PriceChildif its easy to change your uid to root's in those situations... then you're screwed anyway though? :/17:59
ikoniaPriceChild: not quite17:59
ikoniait's not easy to change your uid to root,17:59
ikoniahowever in domain based systems it doesnt have to be 017:59
PriceChildoh sorry18:00
ikoniaso anyone who controls any form of AD/Ldap/NIS (not so much) schema18:00
ikoniacan put them selves in UID for $admin and gain control/shutdown a machine18:00
ikoniashutdown is supposed to be root:root 55018:01
ikoniato stop this18:01
ikonia(sorry, don't know whats happened to my punctuation)18:01
ikoniasee what the bug comes back with - it may get ignored as "not worth it" which is fine18:01
ikoniamore serious for "server" environments rather than the majority market of desktops18:01
Myrttihttp://myrtti.wippiespace.com/webcam/pic.jpeg18:14
Myrtti18:14
Picican someone take care of 13:15:30 >>>> SidStudios (n=Sid@cm4.psi167.maxonline.com.sg) has joined #kubuntu18:15
Pici in #kubuntu ?18:16
Picithats god420/prometheum718:16
Picineeds a kb18:16
jussi01Pici: Ill watch18:17
Pici13:15:44 <SidStudios> Anyone know where I can get Ubuntu Goatse Gibbon?18:17
Picijussi01: Hes already trolled #ubuntu, and gotten a ban there.18:17
jussi01Pici: I know - but each channel on merit18:18
Picik18:18
jussi01ok then...18:18
Myrttijussi01: ♥18:18
naliothhe's crossed that line already18:18
naliothhairy hardon ?  goatse gibbon ?  yeah right.18:18
jussi01heh, didnt see the goatse gibbon one,18:19
TheSheepjussi01: good for you18:20
jussi01TheSheep: rofl18:20
Picinalioth: Did Sid msg you?18:23
naliothPici: he did18:23
ubottulaga called the ops in #ubuntu-motu ()18:23
naliothinbound18:23
SidStudiosI would like to know why I was banned from #Kubuntu so I don't make the same mistake again18:24
naliothSidStudios: you don't see anything wrong with what you were adding to the channel?18:25
SidStudiosI was just asking how to use my BCM4311 card with Gutsy Gibbon18:25
naliothyou were?18:26
SidStudiosOk ok, I've been reading a bit too much Encyclopedia Dramatica18:27
nalioth1215018925 12:15 < SidStudios> Anyone know where I can get Ubuntu Goatse Gibbon?18:27
Myrttiyou think?18:27
nalioth1215018949 12:15 < SidStudios> I need it because Hairy Hardon won't install my Wireless drivers18:27
Myrttifunnaeh.18:28
PiciNeedless to say, your actions in #ubuntu had already put you on thin ice.18:28
SidStudiosPici: Can I buy an unban?18:28
Myrttican I haz flavr?18:28
jussi01SidStudios: we dont accept bribes18:28
naliothmost bans don't last 24h, SidStudios18:29
SidStudiosI was just comparing it to support that I could buy for any other OS18:29
SidStudiosI know that your IRC channels are top notch18:29
Myrttiand you know why they are?18:29
PiciWe don't appreciate being taken for a ride.18:29
PriceChildSidStudios: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/paid - very reasonable18:29
Myrttibecause we do not tolerate that kind of behaviour18:29
SidStudiosBecause people tell me to do "sudo halt" instead of "sudo shutdown -now" which allows me to potentially lose unsaved data?18:30
SidStudiosI felt bad when I heard of its' side effects18:30
Picisudo halt calls shutdown....  but thats not what we're talking about.18:31
SidStudiosCan you at least give me a second chance?18:32
SidStudiosPlease?18:33
SidStudiosHow come you haven't banned Ars Technica off the internetz for calling ubuntu "horny heron"18:33
naliothSidStudios: this is about you.  not anyone else.18:35
naliothSidStudios: see you tomorrow in #kubuntu18:35
SidStudios!ubuntu18:35
ubottuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com18:35
SidStudiosOh18:35
dangergrrlhi... i would quite respectfully like to know why referring an apparently clueless local user to a in person local users group for help would be considered offtopic18:36
jussi01dangergrrl: come again?18:37
PriceChilddangergrrl: Which channel?18:37
dangergrrlif offering someone honest help is not desired, i will no longer bother to offer help18:37
dangergrrl#ubuntu18:37
PriceChilddangergrrl: People providing help and support in #ubuntu is always welcomed.18:38
dangergrrli asked Jack_Sparrow who kicked me why he did it and he declined to answer18:38
dangergrrlthe guy turned out to b a troll anyhow18:38
PriceChilddangergrrl: But I don't think suggesting someone go to an inperson meeting, rather than just helping fix things immediately is the best way to go.18:38
SidStudiosSo should one get banned for such a thing?18:39
mneptokdangergrrl: and ban evasion sucks.18:39
dangergrrlperhaps but if you only have one machine and want help with the boot procedure18:39
PriceChildSidStudios: could you clarify your question please?18:39
Picimneptok: I believe it was a kick, not a ban.18:39
dangergrrli did not purposely evade a ban, the client did it because dangergrrl_ is not registered18:40
dangergrrlor maybe it is, i don´t remember18:40
mneptokPici: you may be right.18:40
Jack_SparrowI am back...18:41
dangergrrlhad to kill my x server because i had a mouse grab :( and i don´t know how to break such18:41
SidStudiosPici has a nice website header, nonetheless18:41
PriceChildSidStudios: lets stay on topic please.18:41
SidStudiosPriceChild: Sorry.18:42
Jack_Sparrowmneptok it was a kick not a ban18:42
ompaulSidStudios, if there is nothing else please come back tomorrow18:42
* ompaul growls the word remove - not kick18:43
dangergrrlanyhow i´ll drop it, i´m just displeased because i was honestly offering help and i never ask for help without googling for answers18:43
ompaulSidStudios, please check the topic of this channel than#18:43
ompaulthanks18:43
ompaulSidStudios, was there something else?18:44
SidStudiosIOW: Stop being such arrogant cocks to Dangergrrl; I honestly couldn't care about #Ubuntu/#Kubuntu, and honestly, I logged on to troll. Who the fuck said I was idling anyways?18:44
ompaulohh well18:45
ompaulwe have had a troll from that isp since as long as I can remember18:46
ompaulI wonder if it the same person for the last three or four or so years18:46
ompaulmneptok, pingalingaponggo18:46
Myrttiompaul: you just CRACK ME UP18:47
ompaulMyrtti, you have a low cracking value ;-)18:47
ompaulgood to know you find me funny18:47
Picibanned from -offtopic now too18:47
ompauldoing the rounds eh?18:48
Myrttino I just imagined you calling the BAT phone :-D18:48
Piciahaha18:48
Myrtti"pingalingaponggo" "this is bat residence, mneptok"18:48
ompaulhehehe18:48
jussi01weird I remember sidstudios from a while back... hrmm18:48
PriceChildmy logs show tm_t claiming he's trolling a while ago18:49
Myrtti"yes, this is Sir Ompaul calling, is Batman around?" <lowers his voice> "This is batman"18:49
ompaulahh18:50
PriceChildoh wait no, was jussi0118:50
PiciMyrtti: :D18:50
ompauljussi01, was a troll?18:50
* ompaul grins18:50
PriceChildWed Mar 1918:50
* jussi01 slaps ompaul18:50
Myrttiooh, kinky18:50
ompaulHARDER!18:50
* Myrtti gets the popcorn18:50
jussi01PriceChild: that sounds about right18:50
Tm_TPriceChild: hmmmmmmmm18:50
Picio.o18:50
PriceChildsomeone also called the ops on him on the 20th18:51
Myrtti"Same BAT channel, same BAT time!"18:52
PiciCan irssi be configured to show the date in the logfiles it creates?18:54
ompaulubotu> m1r called the ops in #ubuntu () [09:20] <jussi01> Tm_T: sidstudios trolling [09:41] <jussi01> Hmmm, ...18:54
ompaulirclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/03/19/%23ubuntu-ops.txt - 48k18:54
jussi01Pici: /me thought so...18:54
ompaulSidStudios is slowly earning himself enough rope18:54
ompaulyeap classic I want to be removed tactics18:55
PriceChildpici /set timestamp_format18:55
mneptokompaul: oy?18:55
PriceChildPici: something like %Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S might be suitable for you18:56
ompaulmneptok, how are you this fine (read very very wet) wednesday18:56
PiciPriceChild: Exactly what I was looking for, thanks18:56
mneptokompaul: ask me in 60m, when i get to the office18:56
PriceChildPici: whoops sorry that's for displayed stuff18:57
ompaulmneptok, dinner almost ready :-)18:57
PiciPriceChild: yes, I see that now18:57
PriceChildpici: /set log_timestamp18:57
Myrttimine are rotated *yawn*18:57
PiciPriceChild: That works18:58
Myrttiirkkiloki/$tag/$0-%Y%m%d.log18:58
Picihmmm18:58
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Myrttiuh-oh19:48
ompaulMyrtti, sup?19:48
* ompaul is no longer funny?19:48
Myrttioooooo good for now ;-)19:48
Myrttibut just having bad wibes on something19:48
Myrttigenerally good19:48
MyrttiI'm happy and all ♥19:53
Myrttia bit dizzy though19:53
Myrttioh, and my uh-oh was a bit too early19:53
naliothtoo many grumblecookies  :(19:54
* ompaul goes to install something insane on something that used to be sane19:54
ompaulthis should be fun19:54
Myrttinalioth: but I've not had any today19:58
naliothMyrtti: if they're bad enough, i'm sure they can have lasting effects  :(20:01
* Myrtti sighs20:02
Myrttioh, this one didn't have long term effects20:03
MyrttiI forgot what I was doing20:03
Tm_Thugging me?20:46
Myrttigrinding my teeth actually20:47
Myrttiso christel is going to lrl after all or that's what I gather from her blog post...20:48
Myrtti*sigh*20:48
Myrttioh well20:48
Myrttion related news20:48
Myrttihttp://forum.lolcode.com/viewtopic.php?id=5120:48
Myrttimy inner Star Wars geek is awakened somehow20:52
naliothMyrtti: looking forward to the new movie?21:02
ubottuASULutzy called the ops in #ubuntu (sexy_)21:04
Jack_SparrowPriceChild Fine tuning the ban or did I shoot a bystander21:06
PriceChildi had already mutted, was removing it leaving your ban21:07
Jack_Sparrowah21:08
Myrttinalioth: the new Star Wars movie?21:10
Myrttinalioth: whatwhen where21:10
PriceChildmuted even21:10
Dave2.vack21:37
Dave2.21:37
naliothMyrtti: http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/starwarstheclonewars/21:55
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ubottuIn #ubuntu-meeting, cjwatson said: ubottu's clock is slow23:01
ubottuFlannel called the ops in #ubuntu (JSPBball)23:05
tomawJSPBball quit after removal23:06
Jack_SparrowI went back and got him23:07
tomawaye23:08
tomawhe came back, did the same to #gentoo.  klined.23:17

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