=== nickrud_ is now known as nickrud [00:14] Only two people watching #ubuntu? Hmmm. [00:16] nalioth is too accommodating [00:18] at least according to the mailing list. [00:19] heh. You are never there, never there [00:19] nor are you, Jack, Myr-tti [00:19] speak of the devil [00:19] we're just ghosts. :) [00:20] bazhang, mostly its about the time period. [00:20] nickrud, aye, and for the time period in question there are plenty of folks around-->which is why the 'there are only two looking in' meme is so confusing to me, as that is clearly not the case. [00:20] I'm occasionally around during the early part of that period, but only by chance [00:21] you, I'd expect that's your prime time. You're early today [00:21] Jack is around all the time, as is Myr-tti [00:22] bazhang, for Jack and I, that's overnight. We're in bed (as any sane person would be, don't care where you live ;) [00:23] heh. Well I have been spending way too much on IRC; if that counts as 'not looking in', then perhaps time for a break from it all :) [00:25] crap [00:56] fujisan is already banned in offtopic, kubuntu, kde4 and in ops, I just added ubuntu.. we should remove the ban in ops unless he has already been kicked for behavior here as well [01:38] you should try buffalo chicken [01:38] that's nice, dear. [01:38] *patpat* [01:45] its spicy [01:45] and hot [03:44] too accomodating of what? [03:50] plush toys [04:45] andy_> when i insall perl i dont see it on my Applications list why ???? anyone ? [04:46] because ti doesn't have a .desktop file, and he needs to run it from the command line? [04:46] Hobbsee: it doesn't come with a shiny IDE? how disappointing [04:46] heh [04:46] he cant be that confused [04:46] silly ops [04:47] python at least has idle :) [04:47] seems the bots aren't catching floods [04:47] ah, there they go. just really laggy [04:48] can someone deal with endafy in -ot [04:48] * SNuxoll is not in the mood to shout !ops in the middle of a very inflamed argument right now [04:49] * nickrud considers it, since it's all he can do [04:50] nickrud: ? [04:50] ops! [04:50] lol [04:51] anyone have ljls email address? [05:01] well, he seems to have stopped so I'll bid yo adio [05:02] nalioth if you've not found ljl's address yet, check my pm [05:11] i'm sure Jack_Sparrow can deal with any problems. [05:11] Hobbsee dont look at me.. I dont have ops in there [05:13] neither do I, though would be glad to have them :) [05:13] * nickrud is of two minds on that. Need ops there, I don't spend any time there to speak of [05:13] We have had a couple of proples come from there lately and no ops around [05:14] Dont need another channel .. especially one that needs babysitting [05:14] its more than having ops there though, need to actually *interact* to keep the natives calm. [05:15] ok, how to I revert to a previous factoid (stupid git, me) [05:16] !bazhang [05:16] abuser. [05:16] hahah [05:16] !no forget bazhang [05:16] bazhang: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [05:17] we'll never be able to forget bazhang [05:17] !forget bazhang [05:17] I'll forget that, bazhang [05:17] like so ^^ :) [05:17] I did a !ask | and it took a new meaning. Already fixed ;( [05:17] nickrud: i don't much either, yet still manage to be remembered. go figure. [05:18] oh, that is a cruel statement. [05:18] ? [05:18] either [05:19] oh, that referred to the comment: [14:13] * nickrud is of two minds on that. Need ops there, I don't spend any time there to speak of [05:19] damn this typing-in-two-channels business. [05:19] ah, wrong comment reply ;) [05:19] oh the 'not enough ops' controversy [05:20] heh. When I got asked, I already knew that was the case [05:20] barrel scraping and all that [05:20] far from it. [05:20] la creme de la creme :) [05:21] old, stale cream does float [05:22] bazhang take a look at aphroneo.net, do you see a hardy source link and the fsf email signup? [05:22] nm [05:23] http://paste.ubuntu.com/24392/ nickrud [05:23] bazhang ok, he can see it. Just wasn't looking well [05:24] cheers nickrud :) [05:25] providing/fixing sources.list was how I first got involved in this. The tools are much better now, but it still helps to have one on the net to point at ;) [05:26] I am bookmarking that link :) === nickrud is now known as nikrud [05:35] In ubottu, nikrud said: nikrud is preferred [05:35] gotta get that nik attached to launchpad I guess === nikrud is now known as nickrud [06:27] anyone got any major objections if i forward kahrytan back to #ubuntu from #ubuntu-devel? [06:28] the driveby requests, uselessness, and/or general offtopicness of what he's saying aren't really appreciated [06:28] probably ditto -motu [06:30] forward him back? [06:32] as in, banforward to #ubuntu [06:33] unop called the ops in #ubuntu (pornlover) [06:38] Hobbsee: wouldn't a normal ban cut it? [06:38] jpds: i'm sure it could, but i don't see the point? [06:39] either way, he'll still complain [07:00] Hobbsee: that sounds a sane solution to me [07:04] Hobbsee: I'd say "please" [07:06] Tm_T: hmm? [07:07] Hobbsee: plasea banforward him [07:07] please even, mmh, nice typo [07:07] ahh [07:08] Hobbsee please don't ;( [07:09] nickrud: why? [07:09] I like not seeing him, you keep him ;) [07:09] or maybe to offtopic [07:10] heh [07:10] he's in there anyway, i thought? [07:11] if he's being disruptive, please advise him of such. if he continues, ban him where he is being disruptive [07:11] just a general complaint, probably better lost in the flow in #ubuntu. He'll probably just dance on that edge there again [07:11] he's gotten much better at that. [07:11] nalioth: yes, i figured. [07:14] he's banned in offtopic [07:40] what's the vietnam channel? is there one? [07:41] bazhang: #ubuntu-vn ? [07:42] nobody there but thanks nalioth [07:57] moin [08:14] icq does not work in pidgin; be forewarned :) [08:14] ah, but it does [08:14] there is a patch for it [08:15] really? got a link Myrtti ? [08:15] http://www.joeterranova.net/2008/07/01/icq-woes-for-pidgin/ [08:15] sweet :) [08:16] I personally just yesterday recompiled my bitlbee from bzr and it appears as if the icq woes for it have been fixed too [08:32] elkbuntu: dude, that ApOgEE guy is creepy :-S [10:18] * Myrtti noms on her coconut pancakes [10:19] nomnom [10:51] Hobbsee, what did he do? [10:52] [15:13] --> kahrytan has joined this channel (n=kahrytan@unaffiliated/kahrytan). [10:52] [15:14] When is Ubuntu going to start using gfxboot with grub? openSUSE and Linux Mint have the right idea. grub in ubuntu is ugly. and makes ubuntu look unpolished. [10:52] [15:15] <-- kahrytan has left this server (Client Quit). [10:52] is the most recent. [10:52] he's been in and out of there, prattling on, for days. [10:52] * Hobbsee has warned him about being offtopic once so far, but given no other warnings. [10:53] Hobbsee, i was referring to apogee but i assume that was -devel? [10:54] it apperas his idea of help (which he took to #ubuntu-motu, for some reason) for the isntaller was to say that the ubuntu installer wasn't very good, and that someone should make it look like $otherdistro because it was better. no reasons given as to why. [10:54] oh, my error. [10:54] elkbuntu: just how he keeps greeting you. then tries greeting persia [10:54] Hi. If someone sets a new cloak for my nickname, will I lose Ubuntu's cloak or both of them will be displayed? [10:55] well, ubuntu's grub is ugly, but the entitled attitude is uglier, yes [10:55] * Hobbsee thought his commetns in the meeting were a bit...strange...too [10:55] Hobbsee, you'll probably find that to be bad english [10:55] well, my thought was that a) he was in the wrong place, and b) he had no actual things on how to make it better. [10:55] i meant the part towards the end, where he wanted to know all about you personally, as you'd been interviewing him. [10:55] Hobbsee, both are part of the attitude [10:56] true [10:56] gouki: hi [10:56] Hi Myrtti [10:56] Hobbsee, ah, that [10:56] gouki: presumably, but you'd prolly get an answer quicker in #freenode [10:57] elkbuntu: yeah - something i wouldn't attribute to bad english [10:57] gouki: they can be merged together - people like PriceChild's are [10:57] Hobbsee, i'd attribute it to different culture though [10:57] iirc [10:57] elkbuntu: quite possibly. [10:58] Hobbsee, cloak merging seems to only happen under very select certain circumstances [10:58] ah [10:58] elkbuntu, who controls it? [10:58] in my knowledgebase, it involves only pdpc donation cloaks, or staff - i might be wrong and they might flex it more now [10:58] gouki, freenode. [10:58] gouki, we dont really get much say in it [10:59] elkbuntu, got it. Well, thank you all for the support. I'll try my luck in #freenode [11:00] gl! [12:28] * Myrtti rolls her eyes [12:29] !away > ara_lunch [12:29] ara_lunch, please see my private message [12:29] I know I'm mean [12:55] * jussi01 sighs, he is doing it again: [14:53:55] CostaRicanQuaker, its probably too hard for you. [12:56] wow === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak [13:00] * Myrtti wiggles her fingers [13:00] THAT JUST SETS ME OFF THE EDGE [13:04] he wont answer *my* question (must think its too hard for me) [13:05] bazhang: never mind him [13:05] he is just being flaccid... [13:05] * jussi01 sighs and goes back to work... [13:06] oh the sudo su :( [13:07] ok, really going back to work now [13:10] * Pici thinks flaccid should be brought in here the next time he says something like that [13:10] * bazhang thinks it should have happened long ago [13:10] bazhang: it has [13:11] wasn't he here just monday [13:11] ... [13:11] * Pici demands justice [13:11] without ANY success [13:11] to no apparent effect [13:11] * Pici also demands candy [13:11] * Myrtti gives Pici a grape [13:11] nomnom [13:11] * Pici noms [13:12] got to eat; back in a bit [13:13] Pici: are you still around? [13:14] jussi01: yep [13:14] Pici: watch kubuntu for me if you have a min - I really have to work, and Eaglescreen is giving random bad advice [13:21] oh cripes, ban me or something, I have to do work! [13:21] I'd emp you but I don't have powah [13:22] !-aptfix [13:22] aptfix is aptlock - added by LjL on 2007-02-01 18:43:04 - last edited by LjL on 2007-10-21 15:34:23 [13:22] !fixapt is aptlock [13:23] I'll remember that, jussi01 [13:23] yay for lag [13:23] GO TO WORK YOU LAZY IRC BUM DONT YOU HAVE ANYTHING BETTER TO DO! [13:23] * Myrtti takes a hot poker [13:23] Yes ma'am [13:23] WORK [13:23] MUSH [13:23] * Myrtti prods jussi01 [13:23] WORK DAMNIT [13:23] *pssssshhh* [13:27] I think that might have done the trick [13:30] not looking at #kubuntu not looking at #kubuntu not looking at #kubuntu [13:30] * Myrtti waves the hot poker [13:30] * Myrtti prods again [13:30] *PSSSSHHH* [13:30] ouch!! [13:31] work [13:38] mmmmmm [13:40] battling misinformation [13:41] where? [13:41] ie two sources battling it out to give the least helpful advice [13:41] eaglescreen and flaccid [13:42] although flaccid is not so much misinforming as just dismissive [13:44] I need a slap [13:45] Myrtti: whys that? [13:46] sometimes i wish certain people would stick to their threats.. [13:46] Pici: oooooooh, nevermind [13:50] elkbuntu: huh? [13:51] jussi01, some of the ones who threaten to stop 'helping' [13:51] :) yeah [13:51] Id agree with that [13:55] I didnt even know this many people still used ICQ [14:06] In ubottu, Pici said: icqbug is A fix for ICQ within Pidgin is currently underway. Within a few days we should see it moved into the -updates repository. [14:06] * Pici slaps ubottu [14:12] Pici: @login [14:23] jussi01: I did [14:23] Pici: does it still not work? [14:27] jussi01: no, it does. [14:27] jussi01: I didnt didnt do it before [14:43] * Myrtti hmmmmles [14:43] http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/tags/aceraspire3100/ [15:03] <|v|4s7e|2> how do i set a folder and all sub files and folders readable and writable to everyon [15:06] |v|4s7e|2: join the channel #ubuntu to get ubuntu support [15:06] |v|4s7e|2: You appear to be forwarded to #ubuntu-ops because of your quit message [15:08] |v|4s7e|2: Would you please change it to something less offensive? [15:09] <|v|4s7e|2> oops, i did, sumtin mustv happened, ill change it [15:09] <|v|4s7e|2> it shouldhave been "leaving" for about 2 days [15:10] The last times you left it was "kiss my ass" [15:10] <|v|4s7e|2> a while ago [15:10] <|v|4s7e|2> its leaving now [15:10] <|v|4s7e|2> hangon, ill exit and rejoin, tell me what it is [15:11] <|v|4s7e|2> what was it? [15:11] "Leaving" [15:11] <|v|4s7e|2> good [15:11] You're all set for #ubuntu now :) [15:11] <|v|4s7e|2> thanx [15:12] OS_X: How can we help you today? [15:12] oh sorry, i just wanted to see what it was like in this room [15:13] Has anyone got the most current version of auto_bleh.pl ? [15:13] OS_X: Well, I'll call your attention to the channel topic then. [15:13] ikonia: I dont use it, sorry. Just aliases here for irssi./ [15:13] oh ok [15:13] Pici: your rare then ;) [15:14] just dragged a version down from the web but it's borked [15:14] I may follow your example pici [15:14] http://nullcortex.com/2008/06/23/irssi-aliases-scripts/ [15:15] ikonia: I don't use that script either [15:16] then your clearly l33t [15:16] I used to use it, but it sucks [15:16] OS_X: so... [15:16] Pici: good little page, thanks [15:17] yea [15:17] well i'll tell you one thing guys, Ubuntu is soooo much better than windows [15:17] innit?! X-D [15:17] more stable and better performance [15:17] vista sucks [15:18] * Myrtti pokes Pici [15:18] Yessss? [15:18] yes :) [15:19] OS_X: so that's great to hear [15:19] OS_X: anything else, especially regarding /topic? [15:19] OS_X: If you're looking for a chat channel about ubuntu, may I point you to #ubuntu-offtopic. -ops is for operator issues only. [15:21] oh ok, i apologize for interupting this channel [15:21] i'll definitely have a look in that room [15:21] no probs :-) [15:26] Myrti can you fix the !icqbug factoid to let people know 2.4.3 is in getdeb.net and is patched to again work with icq [15:26] !icqbug [15:26] A fix for ICQ within Pidgin is currently underway. Within a few days we should see it moved into the -updates repository. [15:27] I'm not sure if we should be pointing people to getdeb though [15:27] erm, why should we ... exactly [15:29] Pici: I'm sure pidgin is being patched and re-packaged as we speak [15:29] Pici: just need a pidigin maintainer to confirm it [15:30] ikonia: It is, I spoke to -motu earlier about the SRU [15:30] ahhh well done [15:30] so I guess the advice is "sit tight" [15:30] For how long [15:31] Just that -proposed is currently locked due to the impending 8.04.1 release, but once that is done it will be moved there and then shortly after into -updates. [15:31] Jack_Sparrow: The best ETA I could get was 'a few days' [15:31] OS_X: so, anything else? [15:31] Pici: thats not a bad turn around [15:31] I'm guessing less than a week. [15:31] !idle | OS_X [15:31] OS_X: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries. [15:31] as long as it doesn't drag on like the flash episode [15:32] NOt having icq for a week would be devastating for some users.. I dont use it.. but the people I know that do.. are addicted to it like it was crack [15:32] ikonia: did you get the latest autobleh? if not join #dib5sn and check the topic :) [15:32] Jack_Sparrow: yup, it can be a problem [15:32] jussi01: I'll look now, thanks [15:32] such is life [15:33] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [15:33] FloodBot4 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [15:33] Perhaps write a more complete factoid suggesting they wait but if not.. [15:34] How many days has icq not worked? [15:34] 2? [15:34] ok ok ok here it comes [15:35] !prayer [15:35] Dear $DEITY, Give me strength to understand and work with users who question my logic, the rules, netiquette and common sense. Give me resilience to teach them the basics of Linux, Ubuntu, Community Guidelines and IRC. Allow me not to stray to nitpicking, argument, foul language or leisure op abuse. Deliver me my daily xkcd, User Friendly, LWN, /. and Planet Ubuntu, and guard over my encrypted drives. Let it be so. [15:35] *sigh* [15:35] Myrtti: -offtopic ? [15:35] yeah [15:35] Pici or less [15:35] Jack_Sparrow: 2 at the max./ [15:35] * Myrtti screams [15:36] Im having a bit of a reaction to my meds at the moment.. back in a few [15:36] my bwain huwts [15:37] ;___; [15:37] !idle | OS_X [15:37] OS_X: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries. [15:37] I cries! [15:40] I give up _o_ [15:41] I guess my tolerance on newbs today isn't at its best [15:43] I have been grumpy since I had to bury Hardy.. my pet Heron [15:51] http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/1088/dsc24991400fz1.jpg [15:54] Jack_Sparrow: I dont see a heron in that [15:56] just his head.. wrong pic one sec [15:58] http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/5937/dsc25052000vx3.jpg [16:01] Pici see him in that one [16:11] Jack_Sparrow: :( [16:11] Just a fledgling, but still it broke my heart.. all five of the others are doing well [16:40] Wondering if the ban *!*@silenceisdefeat.org [by ompaul!n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul, 2792961 secs ago] can be lifted. sd.org is a free shell service, seems a shame to ban all the users [16:42] jbroome: ompaul isnt here at the moment, but you will need to ask him. he usually come in soon though. [16:42] jbroome are those not the most abusive users hiding behind there [16:45] jbroome: the abuse to 'good user' ratio is very high from that vector [16:46] * Pici agrees [16:47] Pici what was that one that we worked to allow middbit or something [16:48] mibbit, yes. But thats not a web gateway, not a free shell service. [16:48] Pici the bots were re-written to apply an exempt for them [16:48] ah [16:49] Yes. They get forwarded to #ubuntu-proxy-users and the bots apply ban exemptions in #ubuntu for them. [16:54] Ahh, gotcha. glad i have a cloak then. :) [17:02] * Pici watches God420 [17:06] Still not sure what he did besides try to run warcrqaft [17:06] none of that should have changed his partitions or boot [17:07] I'm not sure if hes trolling or not [17:16] I suspect he is [17:22] I vote troll.. [17:34] i vote Kodos [17:35] soundray: I'm thinking the same as you, I have a feeling [17:35] I'm a bit upset about this -- I feel abused [17:35] have I missed out on something? [17:36] soundray: banned [17:36] Thanks Pici [17:36] soundray: sorry it had to go for this long [17:36] 12:36:43 What did you request me to get kicked for? [17:36] 12:37:02 I didn't request it, I did it. If you have an issue you can ask in #ubuntu-ops [17:37] Myrtti: this guy was pretending to look for help, pastebinning contradictory stuff etc. -- now after a nick change, he's dishing out advice [17:37] ah, right [17:37] got confused there [17:37] Myrtti: very much beginner type questions [17:38] I suddenly remembered why I'm feeling so out of sorts and queezy and ready to collapse - I've not taken my meds in two days and the nearby pharmacy is closed [17:38] Definite troll. Hes looking up my nickserv info [17:38] I think I'll just -- zone out for tonight [17:38] smack me if I do something incoherent [17:39] I'm going for lunch, feel free to work with him if he come sin there [17:39] Enjoy you lunch, and thanks again for your quick help [17:39] will try [17:39] *your [17:46] Myrtti: doesn't seem like this person will be joining. [17:50] would someone verify a potential bug I've just logged [17:50] I don't want to ask in "busy" channels in case I am correct [17:50] it has security implications [17:51] if you marked it as a security bug its hidden from us [17:51] I appriciate that, hence why I thought I'd "ask" someone to just check/test it [17:51] it worked on a test server I have here [17:51] but that could be a borked install (I'm %99.9 it's not) [17:52] ikonia: if its not ubuntu specific (ie. i have kubuntu) i can [17:52] jussi01: be good to know - check the permissions on /sbin/shutdown for me please [17:52] is it world executable [17:52] http://pastebin.com/f32c408c5 [17:52] -rwxr-xr-x [17:53] not good [17:53] Anyway, the troll's hostname was in use by two nicks, one of which was in #hacktalk [17:53] I dont plan on responding via pm. [17:54] PriceChild: jussi01 thanks, bug logged [17:57] ikonia: how does that thing check if you're root? [17:57] PriceChild: it doesn't [17:57] well [17:57] it does... [17:57] thats not true [17:57] yes, your right - it does [17:57] $ /sbin/shutdown now [17:57] shutdown: Need to be root [17:58] no no- your right [17:58] it does it off your UID, [17:58] however in domain situations LDAP/NIS thats easy to change [17:59] eg: your "admin" UID is set and doesn't have to be 0 [17:59] if its easy to change your uid to root's in those situations... then you're screwed anyway though? :/ [17:59] PriceChild: not quite [17:59] it's not easy to change your uid to root, [17:59] however in domain based systems it doesnt have to be 0 [18:00] oh sorry [18:00] so anyone who controls any form of AD/Ldap/NIS (not so much) schema [18:00] can put them selves in UID for $admin and gain control/shutdown a machine [18:01] shutdown is supposed to be root:root 550 [18:01] to stop this [18:01] (sorry, don't know whats happened to my punctuation) [18:01] see what the bug comes back with - it may get ignored as "not worth it" which is fine [18:01] more serious for "server" environments rather than the majority market of desktops [18:14] http://myrtti.wippiespace.com/webcam/pic.jpeg [18:14] ♥ [18:15] can someone take care of 13:15:30 >>>> SidStudios (n=Sid@cm4.psi167.maxonline.com.sg) has joined #kubuntu [18:16] in #kubuntu ? [18:16] thats god420/prometheum7 [18:16] needs a kb [18:17] Pici: Ill watch [18:17] 13:15:44 Anyone know where I can get Ubuntu Goatse Gibbon? [18:17] jussi01: Hes already trolled #ubuntu, and gotten a ban there. [18:18] Pici: I know - but each channel on merit [18:18] k [18:18] ok then... [18:18] jussi01: ♥ [18:18] he's crossed that line already [18:18] hairy hardon ? goatse gibbon ? yeah right. [18:19] heh, didnt see the goatse gibbon one, [18:20] jussi01: good for you [18:20] TheSheep: rofl [18:23]