| joebob777as7 | ok i figured out my printer tunneling and I can now see it on my ubuntu-server in my lan. I now need some help figuring out how to share it with my lan... | 00:48 |
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| mm_202 | Hey guys, can someone help me with a question about /proc/[pid]/stat ? | 02:05 |
| mm_202 | Im trying to get the user & system time that the process has consumed. But /proc/[pid]/stat seems to provide the information in 'jiffies'. | 02:06 |
| mm_202 | I want something more like what getrusage() returns. | 02:06 |
| lukehasnoname | My god, the w3m debate is still raging | 02:15 |
| nxvl | yes, i'm just ignoring those messages | 02:16 |
| nxvl | it will never end | 02:16 |
| nxvl | as the GUI one | 02:16 |
| lukehasnoname | No one replied when I brought up the fact that it's 3MB installed | 02:16 |
| nxvl | i'm ignoring them before it | 02:17 |
| nxvl | :D | 02:17 |
| ScottK | lukehasnoname: We need to get it easier to have different variants so that all parties can be satisfied. Both the minimalists and the generalists have good point. | 02:23 |
| ScottK | point/points | 02:23 |
| lukehasnoname | I understand that we want to make everyone happy | 02:23 |
| lukehasnoname | but... damn | 02:24 |
| lukehasnoname | 72 posts on it | 02:24 |
| lukehasnoname | when do you hit the sack, ScottK | 02:27 |
| ScottK | Not for a while yet. Several hours at least. | 02:28 |
| lukehasnoname | ... when do you get up? | 02:29 |
| lukehasnoname | I mean | 02:29 |
| lukehasnoname | it's what, 2:30? | 02:29 |
| ScottK | One (or very few) sizes will never satisfy everyone, so there's no point in arguing much over specifics. We need more sizes. | 02:29 |
| ScottK | lukehasnoname: What timezone? | 02:30 |
| lukehasnoname | 2:29am Wednesday (BST) - Time in London, United Kingdom | 02:30 |
| ScottK | Right. I get up about 11AM your time. | 02:30 |
| lukehasnoname | so you sleep from 5am-5pm ... awesome. I envy you. BTW, what's your take on NetDirector, did you look at it? I might finally have a friend with good internet to host my server so I can play with software. | 02:32 |
| ScottK | I didn't look at it yet. | 02:33 |
| ScottK | From the one technical answer I got about config files it sounds to me like they punted to the admin all the tricky stuff. | 02:34 |
| lukehasnoname | it looks worth checking | 02:42 |
| lukehasnoname | to me, anyway. Create users with unique roles based on services, and be able to manage large numbers of servers at once, as well as other functions | 02:43 |
| ScottK | I agree it's worth looking into. | 02:58 |
| lukehasnoname | Can I add newer release repos to older installs, and things function? | 03:19 |
| lukehasnoname | such as adding hardy repos to a feisty or gutsy install | 03:19 |
| ScottK | No. | 03:23 |
| ScottK | Some packages will work, some won't. If you want a newer package in a release, backports is the usual method. | 03:24 |
| ScottK | !backports | lukehasnoname | 03:24 |
| ubottu | lukehasnoname: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging | 03:24 |
| lukehasnoname | boosh | 03:24 |
| lukehasnoname | k | 03:24 |
| Jberg88 | Hi I am trying to add a folder to my drupal install in the /sites/all diretory but I don't have to right permission to do so via FTP | 03:40 |
| lukehasnoname | sudo chmod 777 /sites/all/ | 03:45 |
| lukehasnoname | or chown /sites/all/ to you | 03:45 |
| rodneyk | whats the best monitoring packages in the ubuntu repository besides nagios | 04:24 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | not sure we should be encouraging chmod 777 | 05:15 |
| ScottK | Agreed. | 05:21 |
| LMJ | rodneyk : I have to admit I really love Hobbit to monitor all my company servers & Network | 05:40 |
| ScottK | sommer: Are you around? | 05:46 |
| ScottK | sommer: php-clamavlib is uploaded to Debian. | 05:57 |
| kraut | moin | 08:07 |
| uvirtbot` | New bug: #242846 in openldap2.3 (main) "update-manager could not update otrs. " [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/242846 | 09:26 |
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| sommer | ScottK: that's awesome :-) | 13:19 |
| ScottK | Congratulations. | 13:19 |
| * sommer reading the email reply | 13:20 | |
| ScottK | sommer: PTS hasn't fully updated, but see the first item in News http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/php-clamavlib.html | 13:21 |
| hubuntu | is there a deb for a newer version of mediawiki than the one in the repositories? Etch has 1.7 but we have 1.1 ??!! | 13:23 |
| ScottK | No. We have 1.11 in Hardy. | 13:24 |
| sommer | ScottK: heh, cool | 13:26 |
| hubuntu | oh... sorry saw 1.1.11 not 1:1.11 | 13:26 |
| hubuntu | hope that doesn't end in ubuntubash.org | 13:27 |
| Deeps | it's about as funny as everything else on there, so it could well do | 13:30 |
| nandersson | Where looks Mac OS X for the Bzr plugin-directory? | 13:36 |
| ogra | nandersson, did you ask in #bzr ? | 13:41 |
| * ogra doubts many people in #ubuntu-server use OS X | 13:41 | |
| nandersson | ogra, sorry :) I was in the wrong channel | 13:42 |
| ogra | :) | 13:42 |
| Blinny | I have a cron script (named 'backup') in /etc/cron.daily. Although I have 3:25AM for the runtime in /etc/crontab, it doesn't get around to running until 7:30AM. What could be causing this, other than the 'a' named scripts (0anacron, apache2, apport, apt, aptitude) somehow taking four hours to run? | 14:07 |
| Shanix | hi all, would anyone know how to setup a floating IP between 2 servers? not DHCP nor dynDNS.org | 14:09 |
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| _ruben | Shanix: "a floating ip" ?? | 14:41 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #225229 in net-snmp (main) "agentXPerms configuration directive is ignored" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/225229 | 14:42 |
| Shanix | _ruben, yeah, the redhat clustering suite | 14:46 |
| ScottK | Anyone around that uses amavisd-new that could install a new version for testing in the next few days? | 15:12 |
| mindframe- | what version of ubuntu does this belong to? SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.2p1 Debian-7ubuntu3 | 15:25 |
| mindframe- | I'm thinking Dapper... is this correct? | 15:26 |
| lukehasnoname_ | looks like it | 15:29 |
| lukehasnoname_ | http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-227539.html | 15:29 |
| soren | Yes. | 15:30 |
| soren | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh | 15:30 |
| ScottK | lukehasnoname_: Yesterday you recommended someone might chmod a file to 777 to solve a problem. Please don't do that. | 15:30 |
| * soren concurs | 15:31 | |
| lukehasnoname_ | I concur since I didn't ask him how secure/important that dir was | 15:33 |
| lukehasnoname_ | soren: cool link, I didn't know you could track like that in LP. I admit I haven't explored it much. | 15:35 |
| soren | Regardless... "chmod 777" is never a good solution. At the very least, don't provide it as a default solution unless explicitly told that the server is not networked and physically locked up in a box somewhere out of reach of children and such. | 15:38 |
| mindframe- | how can i get a list of security vulnerabilities associated with OpenSSH 4.2p1-7ubuntu3 ... obviously fixes were backported | 15:38 |
| lukehasnoname_ | soren: ok | 15:39 |
| soren | mindframe-: Look at the changelog. Same page. | 15:39 |
| ScottK | mindframe-: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/o/openssh/openssh_4.2p1-7ubuntu3.4/changelog | 15:39 |
| ScottK | soren: The Launchpad 'changelogs' aren't really changelogs at all, but an incomplete amalgamation of some of the things mentioned in .changes files for the release. To get the full debian/changelog you need to go to p.u.c. | 15:42 |
| soren | True. | 15:43 |
| ScottK | There are open bugs on this in Launchpad, but it's not a high priority. | 15:43 |
| ScottK | It seems odd to me that data correctness and completeness don't rate highly for them, but there is obviously a lot I don't understand about Launchpad development. | 15:43 |
| sommer | jdstrand: I sent a patch to the ldapscripts author that allows them to work from a non-configured workstation... just fyi | 16:12 |
| sommer | also sent one allowing some more functionality to the template system | 16:13 |
| sommer | jdstrand: for reference it came up a week or more ago that ldapscripts needed to be run from a workstation configured for ldap authentication | 16:14 |
| _ruben | Shanix: never used RHCS, but do use linux-ha's heartbeat app in production failover setups | 16:22 |
| jdstrand | sommer: nice | 16:23 |
| Shanix | _ruben, thx | 16:23 |
| hubuntu | once the drupal package in installed under hardy where can I add the www path for it? DO I have to add a "sites-available" file and create a database for drupal or is there a path for me to start the installation? | 16:35 |
| arakthor | anyone know where to find good documentation on snmp and mib? | 16:37 |
| lukehasnoname_ | Does anyone have personal recommendations on books covering LDAP, SANs, or Linux VM? | 16:46 |
| sommer | lukehasnoname_: this one's dated but pretty good: http://oreilly.com/catalog/9781565924918/ | 16:48 |
| sommer | lukehasnoname_: there's also mastering openldap by packt publishing... don't have a url | 16:48 |
| lukehasnoname_ | I see it on amazon | 16:49 |
| lukehasnoname_ | there are several there, I was seeing if y'all had used any of them | 16:49 |
| sommer | I've used both the ones I recommended :-) | 16:50 |
| lukehasnoname_ | cool | 16:51 |
| lukehasnoname_ | I'll check those out, esp. the Packt one since it's Open specific. If anyone asks, "Beginning Ubuntu Server Administration" and "Linux Networking Cookbook" are both really terrific | 16:53 |
| lukehasnoname_ | In fact, the LNC has a really good chapter on OpenLDAP that I had forgotten about... I tell you, that book is very good. | 16:56 |
| heno | Hi nijaba, are you able to do a JeOS test install? | 16:59 |
| heno | we also need the default + crypted LVM server case covered | 17:00 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #244925 in openldap2.3 (main) "slapd reports wrong ssf using gnutls" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/244925 | 17:51 |
| ScottK | mathiaz: All the MIR for the Amavisd-new/DKIM spec are approved, so you can mark that off your list. | 19:25 |
| mathiaz | ScottK: awesome :) | 19:38 |
| mathiaz | ScottK: what's the next step then ? | 19:38 |
| ScottK | The next step is for me to add configuration changes to the default config for amavisd-new. I'm trying to get an NMU sponsored in Debian first so that we don't have two uploads. | 19:39 |
| ScottK | Then it's testing. | 19:39 |
| ScottK | Since libmilter got approved today too, I'll also unsplit amavisd-new-milter at the same time. | 19:40 |
| HomeSickA | hello all, wanted to set up a private network with a private domain. network will have about 30 or so computers both ubuntu and windows. i woud like to run a 'central' server on ubuntu server 8.04. the network has 10 computers on a lan router, we would like to bridge that to a wireless router so ppl can also connect wirelessly. i would like the server to have a domain called server.lan.com so that ppl can jsut put that in their i | 19:49 |
| ivoks | so, where's the problem? | 19:50 |
| luke_has_no_name | ivoks: I think he wants to know how to | 19:51 |
| HomeSickA | yes lol | 19:51 |
| HomeSickA | how to ;p | 19:51 |
| ivoks | so, that server should be dhcp server | 19:52 |
| HomeSickA | yes | 19:52 |
| HomeSickA | that server should 'run' the network | 19:52 |
| HomeSickA | wil the wireless users get affected? i mean doesnt the wireless router tend to do all the work? | 19:52 |
| ivoks | and wifi router should have dhcp service disabled, and only pass packages | 19:52 |
| ivoks | it should work if you disable dhcp service on it, and set an IP that would be in the same range as server | 19:53 |
| HomeSickA | ok, does ubuntu ship with that as a standard? | 19:53 |
| ivoks | with dhcp server? | 19:53 |
| HomeSickA | yes | 19:53 |
| ivoks | yes, it's on CD | 19:53 |
| HomeSickA | ubuntu server edition that is | 19:53 |
| HomeSickA | ok sweet | 19:53 |
| HomeSickA | im not getting 'and set an IP that would be in the same range as server' | 19:54 |
| HomeSickA | where do i set that | 19:54 |
| ivoks | dhcp3-server is the name of the package | 19:54 |
| ivoks | on the wifi router | 19:54 |
| ivoks | example: | 19:54 |
| HomeSickA | ok, so i set the wifi router to have an ip address? | 19:54 |
| ivoks | ubuntu server has an IP 192.168.0.1, it offers over dhcp 192.168.0.100-192.168.0.200 | 19:54 |
| ivoks | then your wifi router should have 192.168.0.2 | 19:55 |
| HomeSickA | ok im getting that | 19:55 |
| ivoks | having a caching DNS server would be cool, too | 19:55 |
| HomeSickA | caching DNS server? | 19:56 |
| HomeSickA | pls explain :D | 19:56 |
| ivoks | DNS server which doesn't have local domain, it just stores queries from other domains | 19:56 |
| HomeSickA | what domains are u talking about ;/ im lost. im just creating a private network, no internet | 19:57 |
| ajsharp | This isn't really an ubuntu specific question, it's more of a dns question but....is creating an A record for every subdomain (www.example.com) equivalent of creating cname records to the servers main A record (example.com)? | 19:59 |
| HomeSickA | i see i see | 19:59 |
| HomeSickA | i see i see: By default, BIND installs on Ubuntu configured to act as a caching DNS server | 19:59 |
| HomeSickA | i read a guide on bind9 | 20:00 |
| HomeSickA | i read a guide on bind9? | 20:00 |
| HomeSickA | is that the way to go? | 20:00 |
| ivoks_ | uf... | 20:02 |
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| ivoks | where were we? | 20:04 |
| ivoks | last i said was caching DNS and i got lost after that | 20:05 |
| HomeSickA | <HomeSickA> i see i see: By default, BIND installs on Ubuntu configured to act as a caching DNS server | 20:05 |
| HomeSickA | <HomeSickA> i read a guide on bind9 | 20:05 |
| HomeSickA | <HomeSickA> i read a guide on bind9? | 20:05 |
| HomeSickA | <HomeSickA> is that the way to go? | 20:05 |
| ivoks | it's been a while i configured my last dns, so i don't remember how it works out of the box | 20:06 |
| HomeSickA | thinnk i need to get the bind package | 20:06 |
| ivoks | but, i guess you'll need jus couple of configuration lines in named.conf.local | 20:06 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #244968 in likewise-open (main) "Upgrade likewise-open to 4.1.0" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/244968 | 20:06 |
| ivoks | to allow wueries from other machines | 20:06 |
| ivoks | right, bind9 | 20:06 |
| HomeSickA | http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu8.04-lts | 20:07 |
| HomeSickA | saw it there, think thats the solution hey | 20:07 |
| ivoks | i'm afraid of those 'perfect setups' :/ | 20:07 |
| HomeSickA | lol thing is, im not too familiar with the server commands hey | 20:07 |
| HomeSickA | and thats prob all that i can find for now | 20:07 |
| RoAkSoAx | HomeSickA, https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/dns.html | 20:08 |
| ivoks | you could try ebox... | 20:08 |
| HomeSickA | ebox? | 20:09 |
| ivoks | http://ebox-platform.com/ | 20:10 |
| ivoks | it's kind of a gui and easy linux server for begginers | 20:10 |
| RoAkSoAx | HomeSickA, this might help ya too: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/ebox.html | 20:10 |
| Luke_L | or NetDirector (try it and tell me how it works) haha | 20:10 |
| HomeSickA | thank you ivoks and RoAkSoAx :] | 20:11 |
| HomeSickA | lol Luke_L im scare ;p | 20:11 |
| ivoks | HomeSickA: i would suggest newer ebox packages; it has great file sharing module | 20:11 |
| HomeSickA | what does ebox do actually, should i use it as an alternative to ubuntu server? | 20:12 |
| RoAkSoAx | HomeSickA, ebox its for Ubuntu Server administration through http | 20:13 |
| HomeSickA | aahh, does it manage packages already installed on the ubuntu system, like bind or an ircd? | 20:13 |
| Luke_L | HomeSickA: ya | 20:14 |
| HomeSickA | think that will usefull | 20:14 |
| zul | ivoks: it has a file sharing module? | 20:14 |
| ivoks | zul: samba | 20:14 |
| HomeSickA | im so excited | 20:14 |
| ivoks | zul: really cool new module; with detailed permissions | 20:15 |
| HomeSickA | need to wait for my friend to bring the server edition cd this weekend so we can try al this | 20:15 |
| zul | ivoks: coolio | 20:15 |
| ivoks | i have one great movie for all sys admins: | 20:15 |
| ivoks | http://blip.tv/file/1015028 | 20:15 |
| HomeSickA | ivoks any other helpful hints? | 20:16 |
| ivoks | HomeSickA: i don't know... :) | 20:18 |
| HomeSickA | :] | 20:18 |
| HomeSickA | oh yes | 20:18 |
| Luke_L | where are the IRC logs? | 20:19 |
| HomeSickA | i have one more q, i set up dancer-ircd. ppl can connect fine to it, but why does it take so long to connect - there is like a 10 second pause | 20:19 |
| HomeSickA | it has something to do with IdentLookups im sure | 20:22 |
| ivoks | HomeSickA: right, that's normal | 20:34 |
| HomeSickA | know how to fix it though? | 20:36 |
| HomeSickA | can't seem to find the appropriate command to slot into ircd.conf | 20:37 |
| ivoks | by enabling ident service, which isn't something you want | 20:37 |
| ivoks | or disabling it at irc server, right | 20:37 |
| HomeSickA | yea, how on earth do i do that mate? ;[ | 20:40 |
| ivoks | don't know; i've never set up an irc server | 20:41 |
| luke_l | I just thought about the fact that FreeBSD's package selection at install time is a pretty good example of what people want in Ubuntu | 21:30 |
| luke_l | It's not as detailed as the FAI or the more specific "flavor" spec that ScottK wants but it's the same in principle | 21:31 |
| ScottK | The hard part isn't the package selection, but the integrated configuration that goes with it. | 21:31 |
| luke_l | right I was tihnking initally about the "minimal vs. full" debate that was going on | 21:34 |
| ScottK | Yes. | 21:38 |
| luke_l | you mean like what qualifies for each? | 21:38 |
| luke_l | like does w3m stay in minimal, haha | 21:38 |
| ScottK | For that, you're right, package selection is sufficient. | 21:39 |
| ScottK | For what I'm trying to do in the flavor spec is get a set of packages with a set integrated configuration. That's a harder bit. | 21:39 |
| luke_l | right. | 21:40 |
| colin_ | hello | 21:58 |
| luke_l | yo | 21:59 |
| colin_ | I'm trying to install Ubuntu server on my Compaq Proliant DL380 G1, but it does not reconizes my raid controller correctly | 21:59 |
| colin_ | does anyone know a solution for this? | 22:00 |
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| HomeSickA | hello, should i install the lamp bundle during the server installation or should i install each part separately? | 22:28 |
| hads | 6 of one half a dozen of the other :) | 22:28 |
| ScottK | It depends on if you want to do more work or less. If you want less, just install the LAMP stack. | 22:29 |
| HomeSickA | what about the configuration? | 22:29 |
| HomeSickA | can i install the lamp bundle, then just configure it the way http://tinyurl.com/65jzxw states | 22:30 |
| luke_l | yes | 22:35 |
| luke_l | but LAMP install is just as easy and probably does what you need | 22:35 |
| HomeSickA | great | 22:36 |
| HomeSickA | :) | 22:36 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #245015 in php5 (main) "php5 install does not work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/245015 | 22:41 |
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