[00:48] ok i figured out my printer tunneling and I can now see it on my ubuntu-server in my lan. I now need some help figuring out how to share it with my lan... [02:05] Hey guys, can someone help me with a question about /proc/[pid]/stat ? [02:06] Im trying to get the user & system time that the process has consumed. But /proc/[pid]/stat seems to provide the information in 'jiffies'. [02:06] I want something more like what getrusage() returns. [02:15] My god, the w3m debate is still raging [02:16] yes, i'm just ignoring those messages [02:16] it will never end [02:16] as the GUI one [02:16] No one replied when I brought up the fact that it's 3MB installed [02:17] i'm ignoring them before it [02:17] :D [02:23] lukehasnoname: We need to get it easier to have different variants so that all parties can be satisfied. Both the minimalists and the generalists have good point. [02:23] point/points [02:23] I understand that we want to make everyone happy [02:24] but... damn [02:24] 72 posts on it [02:27] when do you hit the sack, ScottK [02:28] Not for a while yet. Several hours at least. [02:29] ... when do you get up? [02:29] I mean [02:29] it's what, 2:30? [02:29] One (or very few) sizes will never satisfy everyone, so there's no point in arguing much over specifics. We need more sizes. [02:30] lukehasnoname: What timezone? [02:30] 2:29am Wednesday (BST) - Time in London, United Kingdom [02:30] Right. I get up about 11AM your time. [02:32] so you sleep from 5am-5pm ... awesome. I envy you. BTW, what's your take on NetDirector, did you look at it? I might finally have a friend with good internet to host my server so I can play with software. [02:33] I didn't look at it yet. [02:34] From the one technical answer I got about config files it sounds to me like they punted to the admin all the tricky stuff. [02:42] it looks worth checking [02:43] to me, anyway. Create users with unique roles based on services, and be able to manage large numbers of servers at once, as well as other functions [02:58] I agree it's worth looking into. [03:19] Can I add newer release repos to older installs, and things function? [03:19] such as adding hardy repos to a feisty or gutsy install [03:23] No. [03:24] Some packages will work, some won't. If you want a newer package in a release, backports is the usual method. [03:24] !backports | lukehasnoname [03:24] lukehasnoname: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging [03:24] boosh [03:24] k [03:40] Hi I am trying to add a folder to my drupal install in the /sites/all diretory but I don't have to right permission to do so via FTP [03:45] sudo chmod 777 /sites/all/ [03:45] or chown /sites/all/ to you [04:24] whats the best monitoring packages in the ubuntu repository besides nagios [05:15] not sure we should be encouraging chmod 777 [05:21] Agreed. [05:40] rodneyk : I have to admit I really love Hobbit to monitor all my company servers & Network [05:46] sommer: Are you around? [05:57] sommer: php-clamavlib is uploaded to Debian. [08:07] moin [09:26] New bug: #242846 in openldap2.3 (main) "update-manager could not update otrs. " [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/242846 === uvirtbot` is now known as uvirtbot [13:19] ScottK: that's awesome :-) [13:19] Congratulations. [13:20] * sommer reading the email reply [13:21] sommer: PTS hasn't fully updated, but see the first item in News http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/php-clamavlib.html [13:23] is there a deb for a newer version of mediawiki than the one in the repositories? Etch has 1.7 but we have 1.1 ??!! [13:24] No. We have 1.11 in Hardy. [13:26] ScottK: heh, cool [13:26] oh... sorry saw 1.1.11 not 1:1.11 [13:27] hope that doesn't end in ubuntubash.org [13:30] it's about as funny as everything else on there, so it could well do [13:36] Where looks Mac OS X for the Bzr plugin-directory? [13:41] nandersson, did you ask in #bzr ? [13:41] * ogra doubts many people in #ubuntu-server use OS X [13:42] ogra, sorry :) I was in the wrong channel [13:42] :) [14:07] I have a cron script (named 'backup') in /etc/cron.daily. Although I have 3:25AM for the runtime in /etc/crontab, it doesn't get around to running until 7:30AM. What could be causing this, other than the 'a' named scripts (0anacron, apache2, apport, apt, aptitude) somehow taking four hours to run? [14:09] hi all, would anyone know how to setup a floating IP between 2 servers? not DHCP nor dynDNS.org === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [14:41] <_ruben> Shanix: "a floating ip" ?? [14:42] New bug: #225229 in net-snmp (main) "agentXPerms configuration directive is ignored" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/225229 [14:46] _ruben, yeah, the redhat clustering suite [15:12] Anyone around that uses amavisd-new that could install a new version for testing in the next few days? [15:25] what version of ubuntu does this belong to? SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.2p1 Debian-7ubuntu3 [15:26] I'm thinking Dapper... is this correct? [15:29] looks like it [15:29] http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-227539.html [15:30] Yes. [15:30] https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh [15:30] lukehasnoname_: Yesterday you recommended someone might chmod a file to 777 to solve a problem. Please don't do that. [15:31] * soren concurs [15:33] I concur since I didn't ask him how secure/important that dir was [15:35] soren: cool link, I didn't know you could track like that in LP. I admit I haven't explored it much. [15:38] Regardless... "chmod 777" is never a good solution. At the very least, don't provide it as a default solution unless explicitly told that the server is not networked and physically locked up in a box somewhere out of reach of children and such. [15:38] how can i get a list of security vulnerabilities associated with OpenSSH 4.2p1-7ubuntu3 ... obviously fixes were backported [15:39] soren: ok [15:39] mindframe-: Look at the changelog. Same page. [15:39] mindframe-: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/o/openssh/openssh_4.2p1-7ubuntu3.4/changelog [15:42] soren: The Launchpad 'changelogs' aren't really changelogs at all, but an incomplete amalgamation of some of the things mentioned in .changes files for the release. To get the full debian/changelog you need to go to p.u.c. [15:43] True. [15:43] There are open bugs on this in Launchpad, but it's not a high priority. [15:43] It seems odd to me that data correctness and completeness don't rate highly for them, but there is obviously a lot I don't understand about Launchpad development. [16:12] jdstrand: I sent a patch to the ldapscripts author that allows them to work from a non-configured workstation... just fyi [16:13] also sent one allowing some more functionality to the template system [16:14] jdstrand: for reference it came up a week or more ago that ldapscripts needed to be run from a workstation configured for ldap authentication [16:22] <_ruben> Shanix: never used RHCS, but do use linux-ha's heartbeat app in production failover setups [16:23] sommer: nice [16:23] _ruben, thx [16:35] once the drupal package in installed under hardy where can I add the www path for it? DO I have to add a "sites-available" file and create a database for drupal or is there a path for me to start the installation? [16:37] anyone know where to find good documentation on snmp and mib? [16:46] Does anyone have personal recommendations on books covering LDAP, SANs, or Linux VM? [16:48] lukehasnoname_: this one's dated but pretty good: http://oreilly.com/catalog/9781565924918/ [16:48] lukehasnoname_: there's also mastering openldap by packt publishing... don't have a url [16:49] I see it on amazon [16:49] there are several there, I was seeing if y'all had used any of them [16:50] I've used both the ones I recommended :-) [16:51] cool [16:53] I'll check those out, esp. the Packt one since it's Open specific. If anyone asks, "Beginning Ubuntu Server Administration" and "Linux Networking Cookbook" are both really terrific [16:56] In fact, the LNC has a really good chapter on OpenLDAP that I had forgotten about... I tell you, that book is very good. [16:59] Hi nijaba, are you able to do a JeOS test install? [17:00] we also need the default + crypted LVM server case covered [17:51] New bug: #244925 in openldap2.3 (main) "slapd reports wrong ssf using gnutls" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/244925 [19:25] mathiaz: All the MIR for the Amavisd-new/DKIM spec are approved, so you can mark that off your list. [19:38] ScottK: awesome :) [19:38] ScottK: what's the next step then ? [19:39] The next step is for me to add configuration changes to the default config for amavisd-new. I'm trying to get an NMU sponsored in Debian first so that we don't have two uploads. [19:39] Then it's testing. [19:40] Since libmilter got approved today too, I'll also unsplit amavisd-new-milter at the same time. [19:49] hello all, wanted to set up a private network with a private domain. network will have about 30 or so computers both ubuntu and windows. i woud like to run a 'central' server on ubuntu server 8.04. the network has 10 computers on a lan router, we would like to bridge that to a wireless router so ppl can also connect wirelessly. i would like the server to have a domain called server.lan.com so that ppl can jsut put that in their i [19:50] so, where's the problem? [19:51] ivoks: I think he wants to know how to [19:51] yes lol [19:51] how to ;p [19:52] so, that server should be dhcp server [19:52] yes [19:52] that server should 'run' the network [19:52] wil the wireless users get affected? i mean doesnt the wireless router tend to do all the work? [19:52] and wifi router should have dhcp service disabled, and only pass packages [19:53] it should work if you disable dhcp service on it, and set an IP that would be in the same range as server [19:53] ok, does ubuntu ship with that as a standard? [19:53] with dhcp server? [19:53] yes [19:53] yes, it's on CD [19:53] ubuntu server edition that is [19:53] ok sweet [19:54] im not getting 'and set an IP that would be in the same range as server' [19:54] where do i set that [19:54] dhcp3-server is the name of the package [19:54] on the wifi router [19:54] example: [19:54] ok, so i set the wifi router to have an ip address? [19:54] ubuntu server has an IP 192.168.0.1, it offers over dhcp 192.168.0.100-192.168.0.200 [19:55] then your wifi router should have 192.168.0.2 [19:55] ok im getting that [19:55] having a caching DNS server would be cool, too [19:56] caching DNS server? [19:56] pls explain :D [19:56] DNS server which doesn't have local domain, it just stores queries from other domains [19:57] what domains are u talking about ;/ im lost. im just creating a private network, no internet [19:59] This isn't really an ubuntu specific question, it's more of a dns question but....is creating an A record for every subdomain (www.example.com) equivalent of creating cname records to the servers main A record (example.com)? [19:59] i see i see [19:59] i see i see: By default, BIND installs on Ubuntu configured to act as a caching DNS server [20:00] i read a guide on bind9 [20:00] i read a guide on bind9? [20:00] is that the way to go? [20:02] uf... === ivoks_ is now known as ivoks [20:04] where were we? [20:05] last i said was caching DNS and i got lost after that [20:05] i see i see: By default, BIND installs on Ubuntu configured to act as a caching DNS server [20:05] i read a guide on bind9 [20:05] i read a guide on bind9? [20:05] is that the way to go? [20:06] it's been a while i configured my last dns, so i don't remember how it works out of the box [20:06] thinnk i need to get the bind package [20:06] but, i guess you'll need jus couple of configuration lines in named.conf.local [20:06] New bug: #244968 in likewise-open (main) "Upgrade likewise-open to 4.1.0" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/244968 [20:06] to allow wueries from other machines [20:06] right, bind9 [20:07] http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu8.04-lts [20:07] saw it there, think thats the solution hey [20:07] i'm afraid of those 'perfect setups' :/ [20:07] lol thing is, im not too familiar with the server commands hey [20:07] and thats prob all that i can find for now [20:08] HomeSickA, https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/dns.html [20:08] you could try ebox... [20:09] ebox? [20:10] http://ebox-platform.com/ [20:10] it's kind of a gui and easy linux server for begginers [20:10] HomeSickA, this might help ya too: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/ebox.html [20:10] or NetDirector (try it and tell me how it works) haha [20:11] thank you ivoks and RoAkSoAx :] [20:11] lol Luke_L im scare ;p [20:11] HomeSickA: i would suggest newer ebox packages; it has great file sharing module [20:12] what does ebox do actually, should i use it as an alternative to ubuntu server? [20:13] HomeSickA, ebox its for Ubuntu Server administration through http [20:13] aahh, does it manage packages already installed on the ubuntu system, like bind or an ircd? [20:14] HomeSickA: ya [20:14] think that will usefull [20:14] ivoks: it has a file sharing module? [20:14] zul: samba [20:14] im so excited [20:15] zul: really cool new module; with detailed permissions [20:15] need to wait for my friend to bring the server edition cd this weekend so we can try al this [20:15] ivoks: coolio [20:15] i have one great movie for all sys admins: [20:15] http://blip.tv/file/1015028 [20:16] ivoks any other helpful hints? [20:18] HomeSickA: i don't know... :) [20:18] :] [20:18] oh yes [20:19] where are the IRC logs? [20:19] i have one more q, i set up dancer-ircd. ppl can connect fine to it, but why does it take so long to connect - there is like a 10 second pause [20:22] it has something to do with IdentLookups im sure [20:34] HomeSickA: right, that's normal [20:36] know how to fix it though? [20:37] can't seem to find the appropriate command to slot into ircd.conf [20:37] by enabling ident service, which isn't something you want [20:37] or disabling it at irc server, right [20:40] yea, how on earth do i do that mate? ;[ [20:41] don't know; i've never set up an irc server [21:30] I just thought about the fact that FreeBSD's package selection at install time is a pretty good example of what people want in Ubuntu [21:31] It's not as detailed as the FAI or the more specific "flavor" spec that ScottK wants but it's the same in principle [21:31] The hard part isn't the package selection, but the integrated configuration that goes with it. [21:34] right I was tihnking initally about the "minimal vs. full" debate that was going on [21:38] Yes. [21:38] you mean like what qualifies for each? [21:38] like does w3m stay in minimal, haha [21:39] For that, you're right, package selection is sufficient. [21:39] For what I'm trying to do in the flavor spec is get a set of packages with a set integrated configuration. That's a harder bit. [21:40] right. [21:58] hello [21:59] yo [21:59] I'm trying to install Ubuntu server on my Compaq Proliant DL380 G1, but it does not reconizes my raid controller correctly [22:00] does anyone know a solution for this? === ajmitch_ is now known as ajmitch === c1|freaky is now known as freaky[t] === henri is now known as ph8 [22:28] hello, should i install the lamp bundle during the server installation or should i install each part separately? [22:28] 6 of one half a dozen of the other :) [22:29] It depends on if you want to do more work or less. If you want less, just install the LAMP stack. [22:29] what about the configuration? [22:30] can i install the lamp bundle, then just configure it the way http://tinyurl.com/65jzxw states [22:35] yes [22:35] but LAMP install is just as easy and probably does what you need [22:36] great [22:36] :) [22:41] New bug: #245015 in php5 (main) "php5 install does not work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/245015