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ImperialJesterCan someone please tell me how to set shortkeys?00:00
_dennisteranyone have torrentflux installed on hardy? from repositories?...having lots of probs at the very end of this00:00
KRFderdui, or maybe i get you wrong, whats "normal text"?00:00
KRFyou mean ascii code?00:00
ImperialJesterDerudi, the output of python "print 0xFF" is 255.00:01
derduii have scanned my network with wireshark, and i wanna read the output.... that ist in hex...00:02
derduinow to python, wich proggy should i use?00:02
ImperialJesterI haven't a clue.00:05
derdui!python00:06
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about python00:06
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ImperialJesterHrm. Konqueror doesn't want to do anything java-related too well.00:09
ImperialJesterCan someone help me?00:09
KRFhttp://love-python.blogspot.com/2008/05/convert-hext-to-ascii-string-in-python.html @ derdui00:09
KRFImperialJester, true00:09
ImperialJesterThen, there isn't a whole lot of anything you can do to help?00:10
ign0ramusHey all.  Does anyone know how to check a tickbox in a browser (Firefox) without the aid of a mouse?00:10
derduithanks KRF00:10
Odd-rationaleign0ramus: tab and space00:10
ImperialJesterTabbing over, and hitting enter?00:10
Odd-rationaletab to navigate, space to check.00:11
ImperialJesterOoohh... You beat me again.00:11
_dennisteranyone available to help with torrentflux on a lamp stack? downloaded from repositories? (unlike the other working isntallation i have)00:11
Odd-rationale:P00:11
ImperialJesterYes, it is space.00:11
ImperialJester*facepalms self*00:11
ign0ramusthanks odd-rationale00:11
ign0ramusgg imperialjester00:11
Odd-rationaleign0ramus: np00:11
ImperialJesterGoogle guy? Sorry, don't know what that means.00:12
ImperialJesterHow do I switch my main browser from Konqueror to FireFox? (please :D)00:16
hydrogenit's in systemsettings00:18
ImperialJesterThanks.00:18
Red_WraithHello all.00:20
Red_WraithHey Action_Parsnip. Can you believe some jerk registered my ShadowKnight alias?00:22
Red_WraithDoes anyone know where system:/media is in the root filesystem?00:26
sebastiancan i get help here for freespire aswell?00:27
jlaineas it says, it's in /media00:28
ImperialJesterI'm sure you could, if they don't have their own channel...00:28
ActionParsniphey all00:29
sebastianok well i have a wireless usb and when i installed freespire it detected it and i could use it, but when i restarted it dont detect it.00:30
MachinTrucChoseHi00:34
martijn81am i the onlyone with a not working firefox in 8.04?00:34
MachinTrucChosecan someone tell me the difference in KSysGuard between "User %" and "System %" for CPU usage?00:34
martijn81are there any reported bugs for this?00:34
MachinTrucChoseI'm using 80% user, but 10% system...00:34
MachinTrucChosemartijn81: none whatsoever. It installed from the update and been working fine since.00:35
Red_Wraithtest00:35
Red_WraithHello all.00:35
martijn81MachinTrucChose: wierd, i even removed the temps files in ~/.mozilla00:36
Odd-rationaleMachinTrucChose: iirc, user is process started by you, system are processes sstarted by root...00:36
MachinTrucChoseOdd-rationale: got it, thanks. I was worried I was being limited to a certain amount of CPU percentage.00:36
snake_hola00:37
snake_alguien me puede ayudar, sou nuevo?00:37
Red_Wraith!es00:38
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.00:38
Odd-rationale!es | snake_00:38
ubottusnake_: please see above00:38
snake_ok thanks00:38
dersimonurdurSLM TÜRKCE BİLEN WARMI00:39
dersimonurdurDEMEKKI YOK :)00:39
Odd-rationaleImperialJester: hey!00:40
Red_WraithHey ActionParsnip. Can you believe the nick ShadowKnight was registered a couple of days ago?00:40
ImperialJesterUm... Hey?00:40
Odd-rationaleImperialJester: what was that for?00:40
ImperialJesterJust trying things...00:40
ActionParsnipshadownight is cool00:41
Red_WraithI know. But it was registered. While I was using it, no less!00:41
* Red_Wraith grumble grumble.00:41
Red_WraithAnyhow, does anyone know how to get to system:/media in the root filesystem. I can't find it!00:43
ActionParsnipRed_Wraith: how do you mean?00:46
ActionParsnipRed_Wraith: surly cd /media works00:46
Red_WraithWell, in KDE you have a system places menu, and one of them is Storage Media. That takes you to someplace that in the Konqueror input bar it says system:/media and lists stuff like the cdrom drive and the windows partition. It is not the same as /dev.00:48
pucko-Red_Wraith, it's not in the filesystem. it's an abstraction00:48
ActionParsnipRed_Wraith: yes thats the /meda folder with cd drives etc00:49
R2LMWhat's the equivalent of the Gnome program "Software Sources" in Kubuntu?00:49
Red_Wraithpucko-: what do you mean by "abstraction" and ActionParsnip: No it's not. That's my problem.00:49
ActionParsnipR2LM: adept sources?00:50
pucko-Red_Wraith, what I mean is the there is no such place as system:/media on the filesystem.00:51
Red_WraithRight, so how does it get it?00:51
pucko-Red_Wraith, kde just makes it up as a sensible abstraction for you to view your drives and such.00:51
Red_WraithOh. Ok.00:51
pucko-Red_Wraith, it checks mounted partition and stuff and looks for usb-drives and all that and then it lists what it thinks is apropriate...00:52
pucko-like magic00:52
Red_WraithI was just wondering since that's really the only way I've managed to access my windows partition so far. Not that I use windows anymore, but I've got important files there.00:52
d1os_miop.ip.ip.i[#kubuntu] p.ip.ip.i00:52
Red_Wraith*cough* games *cough*00:52
pucko-Red_Wraith, you can still access them from the console. it's just a little more of a hassle.. but it's all there of course.00:53
ubuntu__Hum. I seem to have totally n00bed up my system. Can somebody help me with a reinstall where I do not lose all my files?00:53
Red_WraithYeah, I know. I was just wondering about that particular feature. Thanks for clarifying.00:53
ActionParsnip!ntfs-3g | Red_Wraith00:54
ubottuRed_Wraith: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions00:54
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Red_WraithYeah, I know. Thanks though.00:54
R2LMActionParsnip: Is that the name in the menus somewhere? I have Kubuntu-desktop installed on top of my Ubuntu installation, so I'm not sure where to find "Adept Sources" in my menus.00:54
ubuntu__Right now I booted from a live dvd and cannot open my existing partitions (hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 999)00:55
ActionParsnipR2LM: you could edit /etc/apt/sources.list00:55
R2LMActionParsnip: True, I've done that before, but I like to use a GUI when I can. :) So is "Adept Sources" the name of the program in the menus?00:56
ubuntu__how do I mount my existing sda1 and sda3 partitions on the live dvd? I need to do a proper backup before I reinstall01:00
Guest96932does anyone know what the error, the adp database could not be opened! this may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some simliar problem. etc.01:01
ubuntu__I obviously cannot edit /etc/fstab, because it's on the dvd and not writable01:02
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ActionParsnipubuntu_: write a script and put it on usb, or online01:07
ActionParsnipubuntu__: or on lan01:07
ActionParsnipoh01:07
ActionParsnipGuest96932: is that the exact error?01:09
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jillwhy my desktop under 800x600 where is the file of this options i need insert to it 1024x76801:24
jill?01:24
wordin the repos why is firefox 3.0~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu3 the latest version? isn't that firefox 3 beta 5?01:27
wordthat's like...months old...01:28
Walzmynword, my version of FF identifies itself as v3.001:30
stdinword: enable hardy-updates01:30
jilltell me please where is the file of resolution configurations.. my desktop is 800x600 but i need 1024x76801:42
CZ-18jill: /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:42
CZ-18jill: you need root permissions to edit it01:42
CZ-18jill: you should be able to do that from kcontrol, though01:43
Walzmynjill look in system settings01:43
CZ-18jill: under Peripherals -> Monitor &Display01:43
jillthere is no any high resolution because i dont have a driver yet.. but i know vesa can use 1024x76801:44
Walzmynjill what kinda card do you have?01:45
jillbuil-in nvidia 610001:45
jilli need z-org nvidia drv01:46
jilli know01:46
jillbut i want turn 1024 now01:46
Walzmynjill look under kmenu>>system>>hardware drivers management01:46
jillcan i do this?01:46
jillokay01:46
Walzmyngetting the driver though ubuntu is the best way to keep it uptodate01:46
jill))))))))))))))01:47
jilli am so stupid01:47
Walzmynnot at all01:47
jillit not for a girls.. i meant system)01:47
jillit is*01:47
Walzmynjill, I know this, because I had to uninstall the nvidia driver i went to all the effort to compile so i could install the ubuntu one :)01:47
jilllisten, can i use two adept processes in one time?01:48
Walzmynno01:48
Walzmynthe database can only be locked by one aplication at a time01:49
jillokay.. can i pause my update download, activate my driver and start update to resume01:50
jill?01:50
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nicolasvenegashola01:51
nicolasvenegasalguien me ayuda a actualiozar kubuntu01:51
nicolasvenegashola01:52
nicolasvenegasa todos01:52
jilland if my download will complete is there 100% warranty multimedia files like avi or mpeg warks in kaffeine?01:52
nicolasvenegasalguien me ayuda a actualizar kubuntu01:52
CZ-18jill: depends, what packages are you downloading? and there can bever be 100% warranty, you never know if some weird crazy error happens (like lightening strike on computer)01:54
jillokay)) 70% warranty?)))01:54
jill75?)01:54
CZ-18jill: what packages are you downloading01:56
CZ-18jill: If you have the dodecs, the files should work. Personally, I don't prefer using kaffeine, so I can't speak too much about it01:57
jillafter install of the system adept ask me in systray  - "download updates?" and i say "yea, do this".. 250Mbytes are downloading now))01:58
jilllike office core or kdelibs01:58
jilland kde libs data.. there are too many packs01:59
dennis_psmplayer is awesome it plays the subtitles that kaffeine could not and looks similar02:00
CZ-18jill: you've have to download codecs, some don't come by default02:01
jillgive me any ways to do this02:02
jilland i cant view russian symbols in amarok... but in old kde versions it was...02:03
CZ-18jill:02:04
CZ-18 apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse02:04
CZ-18 gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg libxine1-ffmpeg libdvdread302:04
CZ-18all on one line02:04
dennis_pi thought kaffeine activates automatic codec download when you try to open a unfree file02:04
jillokay... it is so simlpe.. cant imagine it)))02:05
Walzmyndennis_p, so did i, but it didn't work for me either02:05
dennis_pwhat you missed some old intel codec or something ancient?02:06
thomas__Are there problems with the U.S. update servers?02:09
thultso which one is the better? is it just user-related question concerning desktop manager.. ubuntu/kubuntu ?02:11
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Jawsmean about reliability02:12
dennis_pubuntu is better because more time has been spend on it02:13
dennis_pbut i prefer kubuntu02:13
dennis_pthere are no reliabilty issues with kubuntu just some thing don work as well as is possible on KDE02:14
CZ-18personally, i find KDE far easier to use02:14
NickPrestadennis_p, I would say things work just as well, just differently (and perhaps not as verbose)02:15
CZ-18a lot of the custom ubuntu stuff is focused more on GNOME02:15
CZ-18but in general, KDE is easier02:15
CZ-18at least for me02:15
Jawsmore support for kde methinks02:16
Jawsguess afterall this all is just a matter of taste..02:16
Jawshave found kde more stable imo.02:17
Jawsusing 8.0402:17
dennis_pthatś nice to hear02:18
dennis_pthe ś is kubuntu´s fault of course :-)02:19
CostaRicanQuakerhello, last time i went to bed i left the terminal02:19
CostaRicanQuakerupgrading to hardy from dapper02:19
CostaRicanQuakerit was taking over 4 hours02:19
Jawsterminal is quite relaxing thing sometime :)02:20
CostaRicanQuakerhow do i check if its complete?02:20
intelikeypidof apt-get02:21
Jawsapt-get install everything02:21
Jaws:D02:21
CostaRicanQuakerintelikey02:21
CostaRicanQuakerthat did nothing02:21
intelikeyCostaRicanQuaker ?   what do you mean ?02:22
CostaRicanQuakerhow do i know if it finished installing all the packages that it was upgrafding to02:22
dennis_pis that terminal window still running or has it been quit?02:22
intelikeyeither it returns the process identifier of the named process or it returns empty string.    the empty string means that apt-get is not running.02:22
sdlnxgkanyone having  issues with Hardy Haron install???02:23
Jawsand what was the last messages of that terminal ?02:23
CostaRicanQuakersebastian@sebastian:~$ pido apt-get02:23
CostaRicanQuakerbash: pido: command not found02:23
CostaRicanQuakersebastian@sebastian:~$ pidof apt-get02:23
CostaRicanQuakersebastian@sebastian:~$02:23
intelikeyCostaRicanQuaker oh.     sudo apt-get install -f02:23
intelikeyCostaRicanQuaker yes.  that meant that apt was not running.   ^02:23
Jawsyes sudo. not bido :)02:23
CostaRicanQuakersebastian@sebastian:~$ sudo-apt get install -f02:23
CostaRicanQuakerbash: sudo-apt: command not found02:23
CostaRicanQuakersebastian@sebastian:~$02:23
Jawswithout - sign  between sudo and apt ....02:24
CostaRicanQuakeri'm on xfce right now btw02:24
DarkriftXdude02:24
intelikeypebcak02:24
CostaRicanQuakerpl02:24
DarkriftXread whats being said02:24
DarkriftXtype carefully02:24
intelikeyCostaRicanQuaker    sudo apt-get install -f02:24
CostaRicanQuakerReading package lists... Done02:24
CostaRicanQuakerBuilding dependency tree... Done02:24
CostaRicanQuaker0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1068 not upgraded.02:24
CostaRicanQuakerwhat does that mean?02:24
sdlnxgkhow can I kill xserver ????  I have did it in the past but now just sit with a black screen what is different with Hardy Haron02:24
Jawswhat seems to be ok.02:24
intelikeymeans it's done.02:24
Jawsnothing to upgrade i guess02:25
CostaRicanQuakerso how do i check that i'm on ubuntu hardy?02:25
Jawsnor.. 1068 updates to install but not been installed..02:25
intelikeyone more test.   lsb_release -a02:25
CostaRicanQuakerNo LSB modules are available.02:25
CostaRicanQuakerDistributor ID: Ubuntu02:25
CostaRicanQuakerDescription:    Ubuntu 6.06.2 LTS02:25
CostaRicanQuakerRelease:        6.0602:25
CostaRicanQuakerCodename:       dapper02:25
CostaRicanQuakersebastian@sebastian:~$02:25
CostaRicanQuakerok that's a nuisance02:25
CostaRicanQuakeri was watching that upgrade for over four hours02:26
CostaRicanQuakerdoes that mean i have to do the whole thing all over?02:26
Jawsdual booting ?02:26
intelikeypastebin     cat /etc/apt/sources.list02:26
CostaRicanQuakerintelikey? what do i do02:27
intelikeypastebin     cat /etc/apt/sources.list02:27
Jawsyes. check the problem from logs..02:27
intelikey!pastebin02:27
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:27
CostaRicanQuakerso i type cat /etc/apt/sources.list and enter it and then paste what shows up on patebin?02:27
intelikeyyep02:28
Jawsyou can see the the error whether it exists or not.02:28
CostaRicanQuakerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24586/02:28
intelikeypebcak02:29
intelikeypastebin  >>>   cat /etc/apt/sources.list02:29
sdlnxgkanyone using hardy version with NVIDIA drivers??02:29
CostaRicanQuakerintelikey02:29
CostaRicanQuakeri'm not getting it02:30
TheKiNGHello.02:30
intelikeycat /etc/apt/sources.list02:30
intelikeyand pastebin the results02:30
Jawsnope. don't care about the display drivers. just using the good & reliable & compatible.02:30
Daisuke_IdoCostaRicanQuaker: no, no you are not getting it.02:30
CostaRicanQuakerwhat do i do02:31
Jawschange platform ?02:31
TheKiNGI have a S3 Trio3D video card, and I'm trying to install Kubuntu, but KDE doesn't show up, when doing startx, it does nothing, any solutions?02:31
sdlnxgkJaws, wish I could do that but i'm running SLI mode and need the Nvidia drivers for gaming :(02:31
CostaRicanQuakerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24587/02:32
CostaRicanQuakerthere02:32
sdlnxgkhas been easy before so i'm sure something changed in the upgrade.. I guess i'll give envy a try sine it's in the package list02:32
intelikeyCostaRicanQuaker type this in the terminal       " cat /etc/apt/sources.list "    # without the quotes02:32
CostaRicanQuakerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24587/02:32
intelikeyok that's better.02:32
CostaRicanQuakernow what do i do02:32
TheKiNG...02:32
CostaRicanQuakerto finish upgrading02:32
intelikeyCostaRicanQuaker   sudo apt-get update02:33
TheKiNGintelikey, can you help me?02:33
CostaRicanQuakerhmmm, this is going to take up from where it left, right?02:33
intelikeyCostaRicanQuaker yeah02:33
intelikeyTheKiNG kwin --version02:34
Jawsthe answers are found on the internet usually ;)02:34
CostaRicanQuakerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24588/ _02:34
TheKiNGintelikey: Qt: 302:34
TheKiNGoops02:34
CostaRicanQuaker?02:34
intelikeyJaws please stop.  it's too busy in here for that right now.02:35
TheKiNGintelikey: Qt: 3.3.8b, KDE: 3.5.9, KWin: 3.002:35
CostaRicanQuakerso what now intelikey?02:35
intelikeyTheKiNG   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -plow02:35
intelikeyCostaRicanQuaker hold.02:35
intelikeyCostaRicanQuaker   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:36
CostaRicanQuakerok02:37
CostaRicanQuakerjust did that02:37
CostaRicanQuakerbut i had already done this02:37
CostaRicanQuakerand i already waited for ti to end for over four hours02:37
CostaRicanQuakerbefore i went to bed02:37
intelikeyCostaRicanQuaker from breezy to hardy is not supported,  so you have to go breezy > dapper (where you are now) > hardy02:38
CostaRicanQuakerno no02:38
CostaRicanQuakeractionpasnip had helped me02:38
CostaRicanQuakerlet me show you02:38
intelikeyCostaRicanQuaker lsb_release already show'd me.02:38
TheKiNGintelikey: didnt work.02:39
TheKiNGi reconfigured everything02:39
TheKiNGnot a damn thing.02:39
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TheKiNGsad part is kubuntu 6.06 LTS works02:39
CostaRicanQuakerso how do i get hardy?02:39
intelikeyTheKiNG still startx does nothing ?   what error does it yeld ?02:39
CostaRicanQuakerall of that upgrading couldnt have been in vain02:39
[Relic]what is the command to list all installed packages to a single file so I can do a quick up date to the new HD?02:40
intelikeyCostaRicanQuaker you are on your way now.    assuming you ran the apt-get dist-upgrade command   and it's fetching.02:40
TheKiNGFatal Server Error: AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0 intelikey02:40
intelikey[Relic] dpkg -l > single_file02:40
CostaRicanQuakerwait02:40
spswhere to download the updated 8.04.1? is it available yet?02:40
CostaRicanQuakerhere http://adinugro.blogspot.com/2008/05/upgrade-dapper-to-hardy.html02:40
CostaRicanQuakeri had done that already02:40
intelikeyTheKiNG yuch.02:41
[Relic]Thanks  :)02:41
TheKiNGso... how to fix?02:41
intelikeyCostaRicanQuaker is the apt-get dist-upgrade   fetching packages or not ?02:41
intelikeyTheKiNG is that on the live CD or the installed system ?02:41
TheKiNGlive CD02:42
CostaRicanQuakerhelp what dfoes this mean http://paste.ubuntu.com/24590/02:42
CostaRicanQuakerwhat do i do? "ok"?02:42
TheKiNGintelikey02:42
intelikeyTheKiNG try    sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf     change driver "s3" to driver "vesa"  in the display section.   save and exit,  startx02:43
TheKiNGk.02:43
Jawsyes. the manuals..02:43
intelikey!patience | CostaRicanQuaker02:43
ubottuCostaRicanQuaker: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines02:43
intelikeyCostaRicanQuaker yes   ok02:44
TheKiNG..there is no display section02:44
TheKiNGall i see is02:44
TheKiNGScreen, ServerLayout, Monitor, Device, InputDevice intelikey02:45
intelikeyTheKiNG umm device   that describes your vidio card02:45
TheKiNGk.02:45
intelikeyshould say something like   device   \n  display002:46
intelikey\n being a new line02:46
TheKiNGthanks very much02:46
intelikeyworking ?02:47
Jawsi was a coder oldschoold style. still love code.02:47
TheKiNGintelikey, i got a X in the middle of the screen and a white backround02:47
TheKiNGnothing yet02:48
briggzerhey guys....02:48
intelikeyJaws cool.    if you visit  #kubuntu-offtopic     or  #ubuntu-offtopic      they might like to talk to you about that in there02:48
CostaRicanQuakerintelikey http://paste.ubuntu.com/24591/02:48
spswhere to download the updated 8.04.1? is it available yet? anyone?02:48
intelikeysps 8.04.1 ???02:49
briggzerany new news or fixes yet on sound card problems with nVidia onboard alsa drivers and 8.04?02:49
intelikey!release | sps02:49
ubottusps: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases02:49
TheKiNGintelikey, what i just told you, is it supposed to do that?02:49
spsintelikey: 8.04.1 is supposed to be released jul/0302:50
CostaRicanQuakeris it done now? do i hve to do something else? i just noticed i can/t  open the windows partition despite having mounted it hours ago and it showing up02:50
intelikeyTheKiNG ctrl+alt+backspace    kill the xserver and try this now.    sudo kdm02:51
TheKiNGk02:51
intelikeyCostaRicanQuaker no.02:51
intelikeyCostaRicanQuaker you have a issue.  i'm working on it.02:51
spsintelikey: check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseSchedule02:52
TheKiNGubuntu@ubuntu~$ sudo kdm02:52
TheKiNGubuntu@ubuntu~$ _02:52
TheKiNGthats what happens02:52
intelikeyCostaRicanQuaker   sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/xkb-data* ;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -f02:52
TheKiNGshould i try kde?02:52
TheKiNGintelikey02:52
intelikeyTheKiNG no.  does that not also start x ?02:52
TheKiNGit doesnt start X.02:53
TheKiNGjust does that02:53
intelikeyit should do as you described plus x should start02:53
TheKiNGhold on02:53
intelikeyTheKiNG ok do this then    sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop ;sudo kdm02:53
TheKiNGk. gimme a min02:54
intelikeyTheKiNG alt+left_arrow (movement keys)  about three times or until you cycle all the way vack to where you are02:54
intelikeyback02:54
TheKiNGk.02:54
intelikeyCostaRicanQuaker is that command working?   or can you tell ?02:55
intelikeyTheKiNG and before i go any further, maybe i should make sure that the system will support what we are trying to do.   how much ram do you have  ?02:56
CostaRicanQuakerintelikey, here http://paste.ubuntu.com/24592/02:56
TheKiNG384 MB.02:56
intelikeyTheKiNG ok. that's plenty02:57
TheKiNGyup02:57
tuxwulf... all this persistence stuff... none of it really WORKS...02:58
tuxwulfThe USB installations, made so-called persistent. None of it works.02:58
tuxwulfBIG pity...02:58
shadshodaoy a t il des francais ??02:59
dennis_p#kubuntu-fr02:59
shadshodaoarigato gosaimasu02:59
intelikeyCostaRicanQuaker   sudo apt-get remove xkb*03:00
CostaRicanQuakerintelikey  http://paste.ubuntu.com/24593/03:01
TheKiNGIT WORKDED@03:01
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Guest80351holis03:03
intelikeyCostaRicanQuaker   sudo apt-get remove xkb-dat xkb-data-legacy xkbevd xkbsel03:03
intelikey!doesntwork | tuxwulf03:07
ubottutuxwulf: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.03:07
tuxwulfRight. Persistence does not work.03:08
CostaRicanQuakerintelikey http://paste.ubuntu.com/24594/03:08
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tuxwulfKubuntu on USB: no persistence despite whatever detailed documented procedure I followed.03:09
intelikeyCostaRicanQuaker ues the up arrow then the right arrow.  at  sudo apt-get remove xkb-dat  add the missing "a" and hit enter03:09
intelikeyCostaRicanQuaker   sudo apt-get remove xkb-data xkb-data-legacy xkbevd xkbsel03:10
intelikeylike that       ^03:10
intelikeyand yes i typo'd it.  sorry.03:10
CostaRicanQuakerintelikey http://paste.ubuntu.com/24595/03:11
intelikeyoh for the love of pete. CostaRicanQuaker i'm tired of playing with that thing.     sudo dpkg --configure -a --force-all03:13
* CostaRicanQuaker copies and pastes03:13
CostaRicanQuakerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24597/03:15
tuxwulfI'm not angry, just a little frustrated and disappointed. I will try again from the beginning. If I have to, will get down to making my own initrd.gz03:16
intelikeyCostaRicanQuaker ok  now,    sudo apt-get install -f     # and lest see if it worked03:17
intelikeytuxwulf ubuntu uses initramfs.img    (name may vary, but it's a ramfs anyway)03:19
tuxwulfintelikey: It kind of depends which procedure one follows03:20
intelikeyubuntu uses ^^^03:21
tuxwulfYou'd see what I mean when yyou follow them03:21
intelikeytuxwulf not you have to use03:21
asobineed help, flash broken since upgrade to firefox 303:21
intelikey!flashff303:22
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about flashff303:22
intelikey!flash03:22
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash03:22
intelikey!ff303:22
ubottuFirefox 3 Final is currently in the Hardy package repositories.  For best results, do not install via archives downloaded from mozilla.com.03:22
intelikeyi thought there was an infonode...03:22
* intelikey lost it.03:22
wordstdin: sorry for the slow reply..i do have hardy-updates enabled...and firefox 'says' it's 3.0 but the package version doesn't...so i don't know if when it was in beta it said it was 3.0 too :-/03:23
intelikeyCostaRicanQuaker what's it doing now ?03:23
stdinword: "apt-cache policy firefox" shows "3.0+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1"03:24
CostaRicanQuakerremoving stuff03:24
intelikeyCostaRicanQuaker ok.   when it's done give me a beep03:24
darwinwhat's a broken pipe?03:25
wordstdin: so does mine o.O then why does apt-cache show firefox show b5? o.O03:26
intelikeydarwin means data was sent somewhere that doesn't exist.03:26
darwin\w intelikey Thanks,03:27
stdinword: apt-cache show can show more that one version of a package if there are multiple version in different "pockets" or repos03:27
stdinmake sure you look through all the output, for me the ~b5 version is at the bottom of the output03:28
CostaRicanQuakerintelikey i alsoneed your help, i had mounted the partition bt now if i go to system and click on the windows paritition it says it cant be mounted or something03:28
wordstdin: oh! lol didn't realize it showed more than one, my terminal is at just the right size to only show one ;p03:29
intelikeyCostaRicanQuaker better to stay out of your other systems while you are upgrading.03:29
CostaRicanQuakerok03:30
stdinword: that's why I always pipe it through less03:30
CostaRicanQuakerim on xubuntu currently03:30
intelikeyCostaRicanQuaker unless you like living on the bleeding edge of danger   then why not run something like fsck on the root fs while upgrading....   :)))03:30
wordstdin: good idea ;p03:30
intelikeyand if that's geek to you.  don't worry about it.03:31
CostaRicanQuakerfsck?03:31
intelikeyfile system check03:31
ojanxalooww all03:31
CostaRicanQuakerhow?03:31
ojanxany cant help me to install my modem internal in my laptop03:31
intelikey!modem | ojanx03:31
ubottuojanx: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto03:31
Jawswhat kind of modem ?03:32
Jawsk56 :D03:32
Jawsor something else i guess.03:32
ojanxyes ubottu03:32
intelikey!bot | ojanx03:33
ubottuojanx: Hi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots03:33
CostaRicanQuakerintelikey how do i do that?03:33
intelikeyCostaRicanQuaker that what ?    fsck ?   don't   not while upgrading.03:34
JawsRTFM03:34
intelikeyJaws we don't tell people things like that in here.   try to be nice.03:34
CostaRicanQuakerintelikey, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24603/03:34
stdinone of our guidelines: "When helping, be helpful" ;)03:35
intelikeyCostaRicanQuaker no.03:35
intelikeyCostaRicanQuaker i assume it's still going ?03:38
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CostaRicanQuakerintelikey yes03:41
[Relic]wheee!  all 136734 files up to date!   :)03:42
DarkriftXanyone know why when i open a link from any program it opens a:a new firefox window and b: 2 tabs with the link i clicked on open03:42
intelikeyCostaRicanQuaker is it removing everything or is it installing some too ?03:42
DarkriftXim thinking i setup my default browser wrong or soemthing03:42
DarkriftXhappens in xchat and kmail03:42
[Relic]now is there an easy way to transfer all my settings from the old install to the new one which will get all the proper flags and hidden files?03:42
intelikeyhut oh.   CostaRicanQuaker   just exited...  that may leave him in the dark.   (console only)   ...03:43
* intelikey shouts "DON'T CLOSE THE WINDOW!" but in vain03:43
intelikey[Relic] tar can.  if you are talking about home dir stuff03:44
djspiderque onda todos03:45
[Relic]intelikey: haven't used tar from command line  :)03:45
djspider¬¬03:45
djspiderspanish03:46
mr---t-!es03:46
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.03:46
intelikey[Relic]   cd 'old_home/..' ;tar -czf somefile.tgz 'old_home' ;cd 'new_home/..' tar -xzf /path/to/somefile.tgz03:47
intelikey[Relic] translate the names and path.03:47
intelikeycould even....    tar -C 'old_home/..' -cf - | tar -C 'new_home/..' -xf -03:49
[Relic]intelikey: needs root?03:49
intelikeyfirst would.  second shouldn't03:49
intelikey[Relic] are the user accounts the same ?03:49
intelikeyif the $UID is the same the second wont need root03:49
[Relic]yep03:50
CostaRicanQuakerintelikey03:50
CostaRicanQuakerit all froze03:50
CostaRicanQuakerthen the first blue screen was there03:50
CostaRicanQuakerso i tried rebooting03:50
intelikeyCostaRicanQuaker yuch.    and ?03:50
CostaRicanQuakerand it started on the tty1 screen sked me for my login and password and then prompt03:50
CostaRicanQuakernot knowing what to i rebooted in windows03:50
CostaRicanQuakerwhat do i do?03:50
CostaRicanQuakerhow do i load the gui_03:51
darwinstartx will usually load the gui03:51
CostaRicanQuakerwhat would the command be?03:51
CostaRicanQuakersudo startx ?03:52
intelikeyin that login     sudo apt-get dist-upgrade    # and let it finish.     if it doesn't error out.   you can then,   sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop03:52
darwindon't need the sudo03:52
CostaRicanQuakerwait....03:52
intelikeyi'm thinking you don't have x now.   but try what i said  ^   it should work for you.03:52
CostaRicanQuakerthis didn't erase my *buntus did it_03:52
CostaRicanQuakerintelikey: what?03:53
intelikeynot the base system.  no.   the desktop envs probably.     and NO you do not "sudo startx"03:53
intelikeywrite down the commands   ^03:53
CostaRicanQuakerso i get xubuntu desktop and then xubuntu desktop again?03:53
CostaRicanQuakerok03:53
intelikeysudo apt-get dist-upgrade03:53
intelikeyand03:53
intelikeyapt-get install xubuntu-desktop03:54
intelikeysudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop03:54
intelikeysorry.03:54
intelikeymight add -f to that last one even.03:54
intelikeysudo apt-get install -f xubuntu-desktop03:54
intelikeyfor safty sake.03:54
intelikeybut the first has to complete without error,   that's what hugh you up the first round.03:55
intelikeyhung03:55
intelikeyCostaRicanQuaker so these two lines you got them ?03:55
intelikeysudo apt-get dist-upgrade03:56
intelikeysudo apt-get install -f xubuntu-desktop03:56
* intelikey thinks people should remember how much trouble it is to upgrade and only upgrade when "needed"03:56
CostaRicanQuakeryes but wait03:57
intelikeyok03:57
CostaRicanQuakerkubuntu first?03:57
intelikeydoesn't matter03:57
intelikeyany order03:57
CostaRicanQuakerboth though03:57
intelikeyif you want03:57
intelikeybut first make sure the upgrade completes without error03:57
CostaRicanQuakerok03:58
CostaRicanQuakerbrb03:58
intelikeywe hope.03:58
darwinintelikey or anyone, could you give me a hand with something, in the process of installing and uninstalling kde4 I've messed up my init or something I don't boot to x, and x doesn't have shutdown it has logout03:58
intelikeydarwin sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm03:59
darwinand I appologize if us noobs are getting on your nerves tonight.03:59
intelikeydarwin i'm noobish too04:00
darwinok... so a reboot should now get me the kdm at startup?04:00
intelikeyno.04:00
intelikeydon't reboot for something like that04:00
intelikeyare you inside of x now ?04:01
darwinyes04:01
darwinCNRL ALT Backspace?04:01
intelikeyclose everything except one terminal and issue,04:01
intelikeysudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart04:01
darwinok04:02
darwinsee ya.04:02
intelikeyk04:02
Guest69700hola04:02
intelikey!es | Guest6970004:02
ubottuGuest69700: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.04:02
intelikeyerr i mean howdy04:02
Guest69700hi04:03
CostaRicanQuakerok it said04:03
intelikeyCostaRicanQuaker database locked ?04:03
CostaRicanQuakerkpkg was interrupted must manually run dpkg--configure -a to conrrect problem04:03
intelikeyyeah04:03
CostaRicanQuakerwhat the heck's goingon04:04
intelikeyso    sudo  dpkg--configure -a    ;and then try the other two commands.04:04
CostaRicanQuakerok04:04
CostaRicanQuakerbrb04:04
intelikeyCostaRicanQuaker ok04:04
intelikeyCostaRicanQuaker wait04:04
intelikeyi didn't put a space in there.04:05
intelikeysudo dpkg --configure -a04:05
intelikey    ^   that04:05
intelikeyi doubt he got that....04:05
* intelikey thinks about not being here when he gets back.04:05
intelikeystdin you want to finish this?   :)04:06
* intelikey knows why he's not answering :)04:07
mr---t-intelikey: whats :p mean?04:09
mr---t-nevermind04:09
intelikeymr---t- it's another "face" code   sticks tongue out at you.04:09
mr---t-my client auto translates face codes so i knew after I hit enter thanx04:10
intelikeymr---t- lol ok.04:10
intelikeymy client displays raw face code04:11
intelikeyi see :* as : plus *04:11
mr---t-your on a console tho04:11
intelikeyyep04:11
intelikeyare faces upside down when you back code them ?  d:04:12
mr---t-I 'm not that literate yet, still a gui cripple04:12
mr---t-d:04:12
mr---t-no04:12
intelikeyhmmm ok.04:12
darwinhi again04:12
intelikeydarwin04:12
darwineverything's cool it worked,  just came to hang out04:14
intelikeyhIlf what happened to the other nick  se7en  ?04:14
intelikeydarwin kewl04:14
intelikeyheh we use kde everything starts with k not c :)))    kool04:15
darwinLOL04:15
darwinthat's honestly the only thing about kde I hate04:16
hIlfintelikey: still in use just confuses me a bit in irssi if you stay in multible # ... have to write ups sorry for pasting in the wrong # all the time :)04:16
intelikey((:04:16
intelikeyhIlf i C++ , err no i don't C++ but i stand under you.04:17
CostaRicanQuakerok it said thats not a valid command04:17
CostaRicanQuakersudo config-- etc04:18
CostaRicanQuakerwhat do i do04:18
intelikeyCostaRicanQuaker <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker wait04:18
intelikey<intelikey> i didn't put a space in there.04:18
intelikey<intelikey> sudo dpkg --configure -a04:18
CostaRicanQuakerok so its04:18
hIlfintelikey: ??04:18
intelikeyyou jumped out too quick to catch that.   sorry.04:18
intelikeyhIlf just saying i "under stand"04:19
CostaRicanQuakersudo space dpkg space --configure space -a04:19
CostaRicanQuakerok i will be right back04:19
hIlf:)04:19
intelikeyi hate that the guy has to keep rebooting to talk to us.  i should introduce him to console networking but the learning curve is already to steep, just trying to enter a single line command...     he'll catch on though.04:21
intelikeyunderstand is a strange word in it's own right.04:22
intelikeyif you tell someone that you "understand" them you are litterly saying that they are over your head....04:23
intelikeykind of oximoronic i think04:23
tweakhey...i'm kinda new to kubuntu...but i was wonderin if ne1 could help me with somethin04:24
intelikeyan knee one might.04:24
intelikey!ask04:24
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)04:24
tweaki'm tryin to use ifconfig and iwconfig and it tells me that its not installed, but when i try to install, it tells me that its already installed04:24
* mr---t- scratches head04:25
intelikeywhich ifconfig ;which iwconfig04:25
intelikeytweak   ^   command line04:25
tweakyeah04:25
intelikeyyeah enter that04:26
intelikeywhich ifconfig ;which iwconfig04:26
intelikeyand it says ????04:26
tweakhe program 'ifconfig' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:04:26
tweaksudo apt-get install net-tools04:26
tweak-su: ifconfig: command not found04:26
tweaktweak@tweak-laptop:~$04:26
tweakthen it tells me that the newest version is already installed when i try to install it04:27
intelikeywhich doesn't tell you all that.   please enter the command and lets see the output04:27
intelikeywhich ifconfig ;which iwconfig   <<<< that command04:28
tweakwhen i type that in all it does is go to another prompt04:29
tweaklol04:29
intelikeyok04:29
intelikeythats what i'm asking.04:29
nowshiningadd a space after the ";" part before you put the iwconfig04:29
intelikeynowshining not needed04:29
intelikeytweak try sudo /usr/sbin/ifconfig --version04:29
intelikeytweak looks like a PATH issue  you don't have  /usr/sbin in your path.    confirm with the command; echo $PATH | grep '/usr/sbin'04:31
tweakit tells me that the command not found04:31
intelikeytweak hold that last thought04:31
tweakkk04:31
intelikeysudo apt-get install -f04:31
tweaktweak@tweak-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install -f04:32
tweakReading package lists... Done04:32
tweakBuilding dependency tree04:32
tweakReading state information... Done04:32
tweak0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.04:32
tweaktweak@tweak-laptop:~$04:32
intelikeysudo apt-get install --force-reinstall net-tools04:33
intelikeyi think force will work there...04:33
tweaktweak@tweak-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install --force-reinstall net-tools04:33
tweakE: Sense force is not understood, try true or false.04:33
tweaktweak@tweak-laptop:~$04:33
intelikeymay just be vanella --reinstall04:33
intelikeyyeah try dropping the "force-04:34
tweaksays force isnt understood04:34
tweakdamn04:35
tweakhold up04:35
intelikeyi said drop the force- part of it04:35
tweaki know...sorry04:35
intelikeyso somewhere between the two..... is you  :)04:35
tweakcouldnt find package reinstall04:36
intelikey                    ^   reread04:36
tweakleave it to me to have somethin this ate up, lol04:36
intelikeysudo apt-get install --reinstall net-tools  <<< that is this with out the force- >>> sudo apt-get install --force-reinstall net-tools04:37
intelikeysee i didn't take out the  -- not the reinstall  just the "force-" that was between them04:37
intelikeynot/nor04:38
intelikeysee04:38
tweaki accidentally left out one of the hyphens...ty for being patient with me04:38
tweaklol04:38
intelikeyso do you now have ifconfig ?04:38
intelikeyand iwconfig ?04:39
tweaknope04:39
tweaksame shit as before04:39
tweakit acted like it was d/l'in some info...but its still not working04:40
intelikeypastebin the output of    dpkg -L net-tools04:40
hIlf!paste04:40
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)04:40
hIlf!grub04:41
ubottugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:41
intelikeyi can't use grub it's too weak04:42
tweakhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24613/04:42
intelikeytweak ls /usr/sbin/route -l04:43
kumamotohow is it that kubuntu can screw up kdm so bad?04:44
intelikeytweak also     ls /bin/netstat -sh04:44
intelikeykumamoto idk  i use gdm when i use a dm04:44
nowshiningkumamoto: I too use GDM like intelikey ;)04:45
intelikeykumamoto what in particular are you having trouble with ?04:45
punzadahey any suggestions on being able to tweak or overall make gtk apps in kde4 look a little 'nicer,' maybe adjust font sizes and such?04:45
tweakthe first is no file or directory ...the second says 120k /bin/netstat04:45
intelikeytweak ls -ld /usr/sbin04:45
tweakdrwxr-xr-x 2 root root 12288 2008-07-02 22:38 /usr/sbin04:46
intelikeytweak file a bug on the package net-tools%VERSION04:47
tweakkk..lol, should i try to just reinstall kubuntu in the meantime04:47
tweaka different v. ?04:48
intelikeyyou can see the version in several ways  one of which would be   ls /var/cache/apt/pacakages/net-tools*04:48
intelikeythat will show the one you just installed04:48
kumamotoafter install kdmthemes and trying to switch over from the ugly oem it doesn't04:49
intelikeyand any other versions that you may have at one time installed if they are still in the cache    and yes i sujest another version in the mean time04:49
intelikeyit doesn't ?04:49
kumamototried to edit /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc but nothing seem to work at all04:49
tweaklol...well, this is my first time using nething other than windows...and its saying that the file doesnt exist either04:50
kumamotoUsetheme=/usr/share/apps/kde/kdm/themes/ nada04:50
* mr---t- wonders if it's net_tools04:50
sneilan_has anyone ever gotten kftpgrabber's remote file editing to work?04:50
intelikey!bug | tweak04:50
ubottutweak: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots04:50
intelikeytweak ls is saying that ?04:50
kumamotoone would think that kubuntu would have had this all polished out as it part of their distro04:50
mr---t-me too04:50
intelikeytweak "ls" is saying that ?04:51
tweakyeah04:51
mr---t-for me also04:51
intelikeytweak sudo apt-get clean #(this removes all cached packages, if you need to keep any for some reason back them up first)04:51
intelikeytweak and them up arrow to that --reinstall that you had so much fun with and run it again.04:52
mr---t-intelikey: Ive been typing in the commands you have given along with tweak and got the smae messages04:52
mr---t-same04:52
intelikeyit "could" be a hosed dl and the partial package blocking the new dl.    ^   tweak  this is to correct that if that's the case.04:53
* mr---t- internet is fine tho04:53
intelikeymr---t- you are telling me there is no ifconfig command on your system ?04:53
intelikeymr---t- and that /usr/sbin/ifconfig is listed in the file list for net-tools ?04:54
mr---t-no im saying that some of the commands weren't found04:54
intelikeywhat commands ?04:54
tweaktweak@tweak-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install --reinstall net-tools04:54
tweakReading package lists... Done04:54
tweakBuilding dependency tree04:54
tweakReading state information... Done04:54
tweak0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 reinstalled, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.04:54
tweakNeed to get 195kB of archives.04:54
tweakAfter unpacking 0B of additional di04:54
mr---t-ls /var/cache/apt/pacakages/net-tools*04:54
intelikeyelaborate mr---t-04:55
intelikeyah typo04:55
intelikeytoo many a's in there04:55
intelikey                   ^04:55
mr---t-yes04:55
tweaklol...i actuall did catch on to that04:55
tweakand typed it correctly, lol04:55
intelikeytweak and it installed ifconfig this time ?04:56
mr---t-I copied and pasted04:56
tweaknope04:56
tweaklol04:56
intelikeytweak ok it's a bug04:56
intelikey!bug | tweak04:56
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tweaki've noticed on the app that comes with it to d/l different programs...that when i downloaded programs they weren't showin up...so i guess i got a shotty d/l04:56
intelikeythat package / bug should be marked critical04:57
mr---t-andrew@andrew-desktop:~$ ls /var/cache/apt/packages/net-tools*ls: cannot access /var/cache/apt/packages/net-tools*: No such file or directoryandrew@andrew-desktop:~$04:57
tweakkk...and now where else could i find the version that i have04:57
intelikeytweak wait ?    show the rest of that apt-get output04:57
intelikeyi want to see what else it says04:57
tweaktweak@tweak-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install net-tools04:58
tweakReading package lists... Done04:58
tweakBuilding dependency tree04:58
tweakReading state information... Done04:58
tweaknet-tools is already the newest version.04:58
tweak0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.04:58
tweaktweak@tweak-laptop:~$04:58
intelikeymr---t- that's normal.  you didn't just "reinstall" it04:58
mr---t-o04:58
tweakor the reinstall04:58
intelikeytweak no the one where it said one to reinstall  ^04:59
intelikeyerr i mean yes.  the other one.04:59
intelikeythe reinstall one04:59
tweaktweak@tweak-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install --reinstall net-tools04:59
tweakReading package lists... Done04:59
tweakBuilding dependency tree04:59
tweakReading state information... Done04:59
tweak0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 reinstalled, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.04:59
tweakNeed to get 0B/195kB of archives.04:59
tweakAfter unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.04:59
tweakDo you want to continue [Y/n]?04:59
intelikeyafter the   <tweak> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 reinstalled, 0 to remove and 0 not...04:59
intelikeyand you said ?04:59
tweaklol...yes05:00
intelikeythen it said ?05:00
intelikeycome on,   the rest of the output ?05:00
tweaklol...the version05:00
tweakAfter unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.05:00
intelikeyit's what it says from there on down that i want to see05:00
tweakDo you want to continue [Y/n]? y05:00
tweak(Reading database ... 103638 files and directories currently installed.)05:00
tweakPreparing to replace net-tools 1.60-17ubuntu1 (using .../net-tools_1.60-17ubuntu1_amd64.deb) ...05:00
tweakUnpacking replacement net-tools ...05:00
tweakSetting up net-tools (1.60-17ubuntu1) ...05:00
tweaktweak@tweak-laptop:~$05:00
intelikeygood thank you.05:00
intelikeyyes if you still don't have ifconfig in /usr/sbin/  then it's a bug   and should be marked "critical"05:01
intelikeyon that exact package.05:01
intelikeynet-tools_1.60-17ubuntu1_amd64.deb05:01
tweakkk05:02
intelikeyalso try this, to see if someone may have found it before you, and maybe it's fixed....    sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade05:02
* mr---t- o cache05:02
intelikeymr---t- one run of "sudo apt-get clean"   and everything in the package cache dir is purged from the system.   cron may be setup to run that every few days...05:03
mr---t-yeah I finally got that05:04
intelikeymr---t- it's not at all uncommon for the package cache dir to be empty, aside from "lock" which is a blank file and partial/ which is the dir used while dl'ing the packages in parts.05:05
mr---t-thats what i get for pasting commands I don't have that cache05:05
minhaajok i guess i like gnome more than kde05:05
minhaajjust installed ubuntu and still no crash05:05
minhaajand its fast!05:05
mr---t-but im learning05:05
intelikeyminhaaj good to hear it.   glad you found something that works for you.   anything else ?05:06
minhaajheh nope05:06
intelikeyk05:06
mr---t-my cache would have been cleared long ago...05:07
intelikeyprobably yes.05:07
intelikeymine never is.05:07
minhaaj!alsa05:07
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP305:07
mr---t-doesn't that eat a lot of space05:07
intelikeyumm about 4.2g now.05:08
intelikeyfor me05:08
intelikeybut it is used as a repo for other boxen05:08
mr---t-boxen?05:08
intelikeyyeah :)05:09
intelikeythat's geek for "computers"05:09
mr---t-not boxes05:09
intelikeyi see you don't speek geek05:09
mr---t-no but i'm willing to learn05:09
intelikeyi think there's a website   geekspeak.org   or something  with lots of common deff's05:10
intelikeygoogle knows where it is05:11
mr---t-I've heard box before just not the plural05:11
intelikey:)05:11
mr---t-I have two boxen myself05:11
intelikeykool05:11
intelikey<+7 boxen05:12
mr---t-ONly one with linux at the moment tho05:12
intelikey<+7 pinguin boxen05:12
intelikey:)05:12
mr---t-I had to load xp pro for my training on my play box05:12
intelikeythat's so sad.   :'(05:13
mr---t-I was running freespire05:13
mr---t-yes very sad05:13
mr---t-;)05:14
intelikeytweak did you try the update ?  &&  did it help ?   ||  did you file the bug ?05:14
intelikeyi read that the first computer bug was found back in the 1920's i think it was....05:15
mr---t-netsplit05:17
intelikeygoogle said 1947  but i don't think that was actually the first.   iirc there was a logic circut intrupted by a bug  back in the 1920's in an at&t terminal    i don't recall all the info05:18
intelikeyyeah it's a netsplit kinda thang, goin' on05:18
intelikeyanyway that's where the idea of calling bad code a bug came from....05:19
intelikeyheh that's almost worth reading ... http://www.jamesshuggins.com/h/tek1/first_computer_bug.htm05:20
mr---t-a real "bug" right?05:21
intelikeyyeah05:21
intelikeyinsect05:21
mr---t-weeeee05:21
intelikey:)05:22
mr---t-whats the crying face05:22
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peromecan i mount an entire disk image in linux?05:22
intelikey?05:22
intelikeyperome you can only mount file systems   as far as i know05:22
peromecan i mount an entire disk image in linux? i made a dd if=/dev/sdc image............ and now i want to mount it locally05:23
intelikeyperome if you can read the offsets you can mount an fs from a disk image tho05:23
peromehow 2 guess the offsets?05:23
intelikeyperome not guess,  read.   fdisk -l image05:24
peromelol05:24
mr---t- :'(  wow the face translator works backwards too05:24
peromewow that is leet.................. intelikey,,,,,,,,,,05:24
intelikeymr---t- lol05:24
intelikeyperome me ?  L337    not!05:25
peromeDevice Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System05:25
peromedellimage.img1               1           5       40131   de  Dell Utility05:25
peromedellimage.img2   *           6        1540    12329887+   7  HPFS/NTFS05:25
peromevery nice05:25
peromehow how 2 calculate the offsets?05:25
intelikeygoogle is more equiped to answer that than i am05:26
peromek thanks very much though intelikey05:26
intelikeyit has to do with the sector size and the count tho05:26
intelikeyperome welcome05:26
perome255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 0 cylinders05:26
peromeUnits = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes05:26
intelikeyso 512 is the size and the count for img1 is 5 - 4013105:27
intelikeyif i read it correctly.    but google should have examples.05:27
omega-xiIs this Kubuntu's support channel?05:29
intelikeyi've never actually done that, i just understand the basic mechanics of it.05:29
intelikeyomega-xi yes it is05:29
intelikey!ask05:29
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)05:29
intelikey!patience05:30
ubottuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines05:30
intelikeyand welcome omega-xi05:30
intelikey!welcome05:30
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!05:30
omega-xiThanks ^^'05:30
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intelikeytweeK wb05:31
[Relic]Hello :)05:33
omega-xiok, I had a fairly barebones ubuntu install (I had to install over PXE) so I then installed the kubuntu-desktop package, however my /home is mounted to a partition from a previous install of another distribution.  When I log in from kdm I get a small dialog that says "Call to Inusertemp failed" any ideas on what I may have done wrong ^^;05:34
intelikeyown your home05:35
intelikeysudo chown $USER -R $HOME05:35
intelikeythen try it.05:35
omega-xiThanks ^_^05:36
omega-xiI really should have thought of that :$05:37
intelikeyownership / permissions / paths / then look for bugs...   concise trouble shooting format05:39
omega-xiI checked permissions and forgot all about ownership05:40
intelikeybugs in that context includes misconfigured through rc files as well05:40
apparleI installed kubuntu remix, why doesn't it have amarok,kaffiene,k3b05:40
intelikeykind of a roll your own bug theory05:40
intelikeyapparle i have no clue.  i din't mix it.   you can install them though05:41
intelikeyomega-xi then you started at step 2 in that formula and ended with step 5 "check on irc"05:42
apparleintelikey: I mean to say I installed Kubuntu 8.04 KDE4 version05:42
intelikeyoh.05:42
intelikey!kde4 | apparle ask in the other channel05:42
ubottuapparle ask in the other channel: KDE 4.0.5 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.5.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde405:42
intelikeythey might have a better answer for you ^05:43
omega-xiintelikey: True, sometimes it is just quicker to ask folks with more experience though, google wasn't being too helpfull either05:43
intelikeyomega-xi heh yeah.    i always start with step 5 and work my way back anway   :))05:44
intelikeyproblem is.  90% of my questions in here go unanswered until i answer them....   ;/05:45
intelikeyat one time i was bating a thousand on that, but i've asked some really hair brained Q's lately and it's brought my avarage down05:46
mr---t- /me but does your hat still fit?05:46
intelikey/me checks...05:46
intelikey:)05:46
mr---t- :-)05:47
intelikeyidk.  i don't ware a hat...05:47
mr---t-is ware geek for wear?05:47
intelikeyif you are asking if pride has swallowed me up completly       no.  but it does have a tight hold05:47
intelikeyno it's intelikey'ish05:48
mr---t-lol05:48
intelikeydid i mention that i didn't finish school cause i couldn't spell my name05:48
omega-xiit seems a little more laid back in here than I've seen in some support channels, which is good ^+^05:49
mr---t-I rode the special bus...05:49
* intelikey sat by mr---t- on the short bus...05:49
mr---t-omega-xi:  no it's just late05:50
intelikeyomega-xi when it's not busy  it's usually pretty lax,   but when it does get busy, and it does at times.   then we try to be professional violenteers05:50
minhaajhow do you install .bin files ?05:50
minhaajis there a package installer like dkpg ?05:50
intelikeyminhaaj bash file.bin05:50
minhaajin console ?05:51
intelikeyyeah05:51
intelikeykonsole probably05:51
minhaajcd .desktop before ?05:51
minhaajhow do you change directories ?05:52
intelikeyminhaaj do you know what a linux console is ?   or was that a referance to the terminal emulator "konsole" ?       and doesn't matter.   relative path is fine.05:52
intelikeycd05:52
minhaajheh05:52
minhaaji KNOW what linux konsole is sir05:52
minhaajok then it won't work without it05:52
minhaajdo i have to use sudo ?05:52
intelikeyok.  well   konsole != console05:52
minhaaji know05:52
intelikeyprobably if it's a system wide install05:52
minhaajthis command won't run05:52
intelikeyues tab completion05:53
intelikey!tab05:53
ubottuYou can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.05:53
minhaajwon't work05:53
minhaajfile is on desktop05:53
minhaajbut it won't detect it05:53
minhaajshall i make it executable ?05:53
intelikeyminhaaj yes it will.  case sensitive.05:53
intelikeyminhaaj   bash Desktop/blah.bin05:54
minhaajok let me try05:54
intelikeyor as you asked ^ up there     cd Desktop05:54
minhaajGoogleEarthLinux05:54
minhaajno such file05:55
intelikey.bin ?05:55
intelikeytab completion....05:55
minhaajok done05:55
minhaajthanks05:55
intelikey:)05:55
intelikeywelcome05:55
minhaaji shouldnt have installed bin05:57
intelikey!googleearth05:57
ubottuGoogle Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html - A package for Ubuntu is available in the !Medibuntu repository05:57
minhaaji think google earth could update it self by sudo apt-get update05:57
minhaajwouldnt that have worked ?05:57
intelikey!Medibuntu05:57
ubottumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org05:57
minhaajits installed05:57
minhaaj:)05:58
intelikeyminhaaj just answering your other Q    ^05:58
minhaajwhich one ?05:58
intelikey<minhaaj> i think google earth could update it self by sudo apt-get update  <minhaaj> wouldnt that have worked ?05:58
minhaajahh05:59
minhaajok :) i have no idea if it would have05:59
minhaajbut its good i learned how to run .bin files05:59
intelikeyit is in the repos  if you enable the medibuntu repo05:59
minhaaj:)05:59
minhaajyea but its the old version05:59
minhaaji had to update it05:59
intelikeywell the the short answer to your Q there  is no.05:59
intelikeyanything else ?06:00
dsmith_hello, where can I get a clean rebuild of sources.list?06:01
minhaajyp:)06:01
minhaajintelikey:  one thing more06:01
mr---t-yp:)06:03
intelikeyif "CostaRicanQuaker"  comes back in.  here's his problem as i know it.   he has dapper installed, is in the process of upgrading to hardy, last seen working from a console with "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop"   check his progress and help him if you can.  he is completly green and can't fresh/clean install   so he needs help.06:03
intelikeydsmith_ what version ?06:03
intelikeyhardy ?06:03
dsmith_7.1006:03
intelikeygutsy06:04
dsmith_trying to upgrade to 8.04 and its tossing an error06:04
dsmith_yea06:04
dsmith_ailed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release  Unable to find expected entry06:05
intelikeydsmith_ http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d5ae0c83306:05
dsmith_wow talk about cut down06:05
dsmith_lol06:05
intelikeyno need in wasting space...06:05
dsmith_true06:06
dsmith_its working now06:06
dsmith_thanks06:06
dsmith_I could not find anything online...06:06
intelikeyyou might leave off backports    it sometimes cause odd things06:06
dsmith_thats what I had enabled06:06
dsmith_oops let me edit that06:07
intelikeybut it sometimes breaks upgrades.  so ...06:07
intelikeydepending on what you have installed from backports actually.06:07
Fleckhey, can't descide - 32bit or 64bit kubuntu ;) anyone?06:07
Fleckok never mind ;) reading FAQ...06:08
intelikeyFleck 32 is still more supported  64 is getting better though.   if you are a developer  definitely 64  else  32 might be safer if you are kinda noobish06:08
Fleckhmm06:08
dsmith_<--- still noobish06:09
dsmith_:P06:09
Fleck:P06:09
intelikey<--<| complete newb06:09
dsmith_lies..06:09
intelikeydoes too06:09
Flecki use linux for about 6 years, i know how to code etc... :P06:09
matthew_n00bs use linux now?06:09
matthew_o.006:09
intelikeyFleck 6406:10
dsmith_didn't know that?06:10
matthew_lol06:10
Fleckintelikey ok, macromedia flash still no 64bit version? have to use plugin wrapper?06:11
intelikeyFleck or ia32libs ?06:11
Fleckyep06:11
intelikeythey are dooing a lot with that now days06:11
Fleckok06:11
intelikeydooing  heh06:12
dsmith_downloading from MIT servers seem quicker06:12
intelikeyFleck why don't you spend some time in here helping the real n''bs  we could use experanced folks.06:13
Fleckdunno06:13
Fleckdon't have much time to talk...06:13
Fleck:(06:13
intelikeyunderstand06:13
* tom__ finally manageed to install vmware server but it won't boot06:14
tom__when i start a virtual machine, i get the blank screen and then it stops, before it even starts the POST06:14
intelikeysee tom is one step out of my reach ^   i have never played with vmware06:14
tom__any ideas ?06:14
tom__using kubuntu 8.04 with latest updates06:15
Flecktom__ modules missing?06:15
tom__like what? where can i find info about that?06:16
dsmith_thx intelikey, upgrading now06:16
intelikeydsmith_ welcome.06:16
dsmith_vmware is rock solid06:16
dsmith_did you run the compiler?06:17
dsmith_from the shell script?06:17
tom__i've downloaded the .tar.gz, ran install, updated with any-any-116 and then configured06:17
Fleckintelikey hardy or KDE4 Remix? :)06:17
dsmith_hmmmmmmmm06:17
intelikeydsmith_ btw i generated that with a command "sed 's/dapper/gutsy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebin "  # pastebin being a script i wrote that put in on the web for you.06:18
tom__(with any-any-117 wouldn't compile)06:18
dsmith_intelikey: thats just too l33t... :)06:18
intelikeyFleck most people like kde4 but find it "incomplete"  i is missing some things that arent developed yet.06:18
dsmith_kde4 seems ok, but I agree 'incomplete'06:18
intelikeyFleck i'm a stability oriented kind   i'd say hardy06:19
Fleckok can i install kde3 normaly on KDE4 remix ?06:19
tom__intelikey: probably what's "incomplete" are things there are in windows and missing from kde4 :P06:19
Fleckok06:19
intelikeyyes06:19
TurkSatwhere is the process manager in kubuntu?06:19
dsmith_ksysguard06:19
FleckTurkSat  CTRL + ESC06:19
TurkSatthanks06:20
dsmith_well that too :P06:20
intelikeytom__ no.  part of the apps that people are used to in kde3* have not yet been coded for kde4 so they are "missing" in kde406:20
tom__ah06:20
Fleckintelikey and KDE4 on hardy is not a problem afaik06:20
intelikeyFleck correct06:20
intelikey!kde406:20
ubottuKDE 4.0.5 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.5.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde406:20
Fleckok :)06:20
dsmith_I just show of kde406:20
tom__so any ideas about what i should do with vmware server?06:20
dsmith_*off06:21
Flecktom__ try to run vmware in konsole and see output06:21
ghost_i have a problem: my kicker has vanished from kdeinit06:21
dsmith_tom__: I dont know... I never had one ounce of problems with it, I have run every OS imaginable on it06:21
Fleckghost_ ALT + F206:21
ghost_can somebody help me?06:21
ghost_i know06:21
FleckALT + F1 shows Kmenu06:21
ghost_but then i only have my kicker back for the session .. when i restart its gone again06:22
intelikeytom__ is there a channel here for that ?   #vmware  ?      if no one in here can answer you adaquitly ask in there or even in  ##linux     sometimes you get good help there.06:22
Fleckghost_ ohh it's set to autohide? :)06:22
ghost_no06:22
dsmith_vmware is active06:22
Fleckhmm06:22
intelikeyok fellows i'm went.06:23
ghost_there is no kicker-prozess running06:23
intelikeyshalom !06:23
ghost_it seems not to be included in the kdeinit anymore06:24
tom__whoah, i just started it and now it works!06:24
ghost_when i start in manualy it only lasts for the actual session but dissapears in a new one06:25
ghost_no matter how often i save the session06:25
tom__sorry for bothering you, i have no idea why now it works, but it might have been because of the location of the .vmdk, i think last time i chose an ntfs mount06:26
Flecktom__ i have vmware virtual disk on ntfs - works great with ntfs-3g :)06:27
tom__and microxp seems to run like instane on kubuntu06:28
tom__it took me 7 minutes to install it under xp, only 3 in kubuntu06:28
* tom__ off to work :D06:28
CostaRicanQuakerok i need helpbecause of the following06:28
CostaRicanQuakerintelikey was helping me upgrade ubuntu from dapper to hardy06:28
CostaRicanQuakeri had already done that as in had already done the upgrading thing and ti took like five hours to get allthepackages adne verything during that time i was sasleep i comeback and apparently it's still ubuntu dapper so there's a problem so intelikey tells me to type some commands i do then i reboot and guess waht? no GUI just ubuntu06:29
CostaRicanQuakertelling me dpkg was interrupted must manually run dpkg --configure - a to correct the rpobem and then tells me its not a valid command06:30
Fleckghost_ http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-212648.html06:30
Flecktry this06:30
CostaRicanQuakeri'm on wiondows xp now06:31
FleckCostaRicanQuaker in konsole: sudo dpkg --configure -a06:31
CostaRicanQuakerbut i want my ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu back, with the windows partition mounted and upgraded to hardy06:31
CostaRicanQuakerso how do i do it06:31
CostaRicanQuakerno konsole, i cant boot up the gui it stays in tty106:31
Fleckthen login with your username and pass06:32
Fleckthen sudo dpkg...06:32
CostaRicanQuakerand when i did that and typed that command06:32
ghost_Flex  thx06:32
CostaRicanQuakerit said...ok i'll write down what it said and come back06:32
CostaRicanQuakerbrb06:32
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CostaRicanQuakerok06:39
CostaRicanQuakerthat was not productive06:39
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CostaRicanQuakerso i typed what it told me06:39
CostaRicanQuakerthen a cascade of text happened06:39
CostaRicanQuakerso i tried the apt-get dist-upgrade06:39
CostaRicanQuakerdidnt work06:39
apparlewhat will be the next version after hardy06:39
CostaRicanQuakertried apt-get install kubuntu desktop06:39
CostaRicanQuakerdidnt work06:39
CostaRicanQuakersuggested i tried something like apt-get install -f06:40
CostaRicanQuakermore text06:40
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CostaRicanQuakertried startx06:40
CostaRicanQuakermore text no GUI06:40
CostaRicanQuakercan someone help me boot ubuntu again s06:40
holymolyyou are upgrading from what to what?06:40
CostaRicanQuakerso i can upload from dapper to hardy, mount my windows partition06:40
[Relic]is there any possible way to get a logical partition to be available for non-root on startup?06:40
holymolyCostaRicanQuaker: if a dist upgrade fails, sometimes a quick plain reinstall is faster06:41
CostaRicanQuakerall i want to do is have ubuntu GUI run, have kde xfce there if i want to login in them and have my partitions mounted so i can access my windows files06:41
holymolyjust make sure you have /home backed up06:41
CostaRicanQuakerok here's the deal holymoly06:41
holymolyeverything else can go06:41
CostaRicanQuakerplain reinstall means using the old breezy 5.10 ubuntu cd06:42
CostaRicanQuakerand then upgrade to dapper06:42
CostaRicanQuakerand then get kubuntu06:42
CostaRicanQuakerand xubuntu06:42
CostaRicanQuakeragain06:42
holymolywhy?06:42
holymolycan't burn off a hardy cd?06:42
CostaRicanQuakeras i don't have anymore cdrs from burning a livecd for kubuntu that didnt work an alternate cd for kubuntu that didnt work a livecd for xubuntu that didnt work06:43
holymolyand why go kubuntu to xubuntu?06:43
CostaRicanQuakeran alternate cd for xubuntu that didnt work06:43
holymolyyou can just install the alternate cd, install minimal then install xubuntu parts06:43
holymolyyou don't need alternate for xubuntu06:43
holymolyjust alternate06:43
CostaRicanQuakerno06:43
CostaRicanQuakeri ried all of those06:43
CostaRicanQuakerall had errors06:43
CostaRicanQuakereven when i downloaded from torrent06:43
CostaRicanQuakerso i dont trust that anymore and i ran out of disks06:43
CostaRicanQuakeronly the canonical old breezy cd06:44
CostaRicanQuaker5.1006:44
holymolywhat had errors, the cd or th einstall?06:44
holymolyyou checksummed the image, yes?06:44
CostaRicanQuakerthe cd's wouldn't installed...computer would get stuck with every programme i tried to check the hashes with06:44
CostaRicanQuakeranyway06:44
CostaRicanQuakerI ALREADY HAVE UBUNTU06:44
CostaRicanQuakerit's loading, grub loads it06:45
CostaRicanQuakeri just dont know what commands to enter for the GUI to load06:45
apparlewhat's the verson after hardy 8.04 something from 'i'06:45
CostaRicanQuakeri dont even know if it upgraded to hardy06:45
mr---t-apparle: ibex06:45
holymolyso you have a command line? yes?06:45
CostaRicanQuakeryes06:45
kumamotohas kubuntu fixed the ipod amarok issue?06:45
CostaRicanQuakerit asks me for my password and login yes06:45
CostaRicanQuakerit does load06:45
CostaRicanQuakerbut i needto load the GUI06:46
CostaRicanQuakergnome06:46
dsmith_X doesn't load?06:46
CostaRicanQuakerno, i tried startx06:46
CostaRicanQuakergave me some error06:46
CostaRicanQuakerthat is i typed startx at the prompt and enter06:46
dsmith_xorg.conf misconfigured?06:46
CostaRicanQuakerso what do i do to load the gui?06:46
dsmith_if your at the command line and rrun startx06:47
dsmith_it should spit out an error06:47
CostaRicanQuakeri dont know, if you look at the log you'll see the commands intelikey told me to enter in konsole, some of them were removing erroneous packages i think from not upgrading well from dapper to hardy06:47
CostaRicanQuakeryes it spat out an error06:47
CostaRicanQuaker!log06:47
ubottuOfficial channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - For LoCo channels, http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/06:47
CostaRicanQuakerlook up there a couple of hours ago06:48
dsmith_i was on at 1am06:48
CostaRicanQuakeri have been using linux 48 hours06:48
dsmith_I missed that06:48
dsmith_welcome !06:48
CostaRicanQuakerno imean...this is ludicrous...everything was going well06:48
CostaRicanQuakerbut it hsoudl be there on the log the commands intelikey asked to paste06:49
dsmith_what ahppened?06:49
CostaRicanQuakerand wahtever caused this06:49
dsmith_well patience friend, I have had two major system issues with this machine06:49
dsmith_but thats was from my fault06:49
CostaRicanQuakerpatience?06:51
CostaRicanQuakeri'm not going anywhere06:51
CostaRicanQuakerbut i need to fix this06:52
CostaRicanQuakerso how do i promt the gui form the command line06:53
holymolyokay so i'm not going to bother to look through the irc logs ... some questions06:53
holymolyyou have command line, you can log in.  great06:53
holymolyare you on hardy yet?06:53
dsmith_CostaRicanQuaker: uname -r06:54
CostaRicanQuakeri dont know, the whole point was to upgrade from dapper to hardy i did what had to be done apparently, and it took hours i went ot bed and hten i came back then intelikey was helping me check apparently i was still on dapper so he helped me with some commands and then this happened06:55
holymolydo what dsmith said06:55
holymolylets see what kernel you have06:55
CostaRicanQuakerhow do i do that?06:56
dsmith_type : uname -r06:56
dsmith_CostaRicanQuaker: did you make a backup before you upgraded?06:56
CostaRicanQuakersudo uname -r ?06:56
holymolydude c'mon06:56
dsmith_no need for sudo06:56
holymolydon't think so far ahead06:56
dsmith_lol06:56
CostaRicanQuakerijust type uname -r ?06:56
holymolyits simple, just listen to what we say and do it06:56
holymolyyes for f's sake06:57
holymolyc'mon already06:57
holymolylol06:57
CostaRicanQuakerok it'll ask me for my login password and i enter that ok06:57
holymolyyes you haveto log in06:57
holymolyright06:57
dsmith_not with that cmd it won't06:57
CostaRicanQuakerhere's the direct link to the log so you can see what commands were used i'll brb http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/07/03/%23kubuntu.html06:57
dsmith_so long as your already logeged in06:57
holymolylol06:57
holymolyman people like that make me angry06:57
holymolyi want to throw fuckin vista cd's at them06:57
dsmith_LMFAO06:58
dsmith_hahhaah06:58
stdinholymoly: 1) watch the attitude, 2) watch the language06:58
holymolyk, k06:58
dsmith_kinda makes you wonder..06:58
dsmith_*shrug*06:58
holymolywhat gets me is when the simplest requests simply get ignored06:59
holymolyi understand the frustration06:59
holymolybut we are spending our good will and time to help06:59
dsmith_doom on him, next06:59
stdindsmith_: that's not a good attitude here either07:00
stdinit's up to you if you want to help, but don't be derogatory07:00
holymolystdin: thats not exactly a fair statement07:00
holymolywhy must the WILLING and HELPFULL bear the burden of the UNWILLING and WILLFULLY ignorant?07:01
holymolythe sword cuts both ways07:01
dsmith_ok, I take that back...07:01
stdinas I said, it's up to you _if_ you want to help07:01
dsmith_no doom on him, I wish him the best07:01
holymolyespecially under circumstances where the willing and helpfull have clearly laid out the unbiased and non discriminatory carpet07:01
stdinI did not say "you mush help and be nice always and forever"07:01
holymolymaybe you think you didn't07:01
holymolyi'm simply pointing out the obvious07:01
* dsmith_ brain is mush... after that episode..07:02
stdinI don't think I didn't, I know I did not, I can read my own backlog07:02
holymolyregardless i understand its pointless as really its not your place to listen07:02
holymolywell you can take that position thats fine07:02
holymolythe implication of your statement is the same regardless07:02
dsmith_I am fair and objective and willing to bend over backweards to help, but I have my limits07:03
stdinif you don't feel you can be respectful when helping, then don't help07:04
CostaRicanQuakerit said 2.6.15-52-38607:05
dsmith_thast hardy?07:05
holymolyi don't think so07:06
CostaRicanQuakeri think thats dapper07:06
holymolysounds right07:06
holymolyso you want gui on dapper, yes?07:06
CostaRicanQuakeryes07:06
CostaRicanQuakerremember the option to log in session as either gnome kde or xfce was there already07:07
holymolyokay so when the system starts up you get the login manager, yes?07:07
holymolya login session, right?07:07
omega-xi!!!07:07
CostaRicanQuakeryes07:07
holymolynot a black screen that lets you log in, a graphical log in session?07:08
CostaRicanQuakeroh no i get a black screen07:08
omega-xi(sorry wrong channel ^^;)07:08
CostaRicanQuakerthat lets me login07:08
holymolythen you don't have a login manager07:08
holymolyyou just have a terminal07:08
holymolyin which case thats cool07:08
CostaRicanQuakerit boots up and the kubuntu blue letters show up07:08
CostaRicanQuakerwith the bar that loads blue07:08
CostaRicanQuakerthen that shows up07:08
holymolyall right post your sources.list file somewhere so we can see what repos you are pulling from07:08
CostaRicanQuakerblack screen prompting me to write my login07:08
holymolywait say what?07:09
holymolyoh okay do this07:09
holymolypress ctrl / alt / del first07:09
holymolylets see if it goes back to the login manager07:09
holymolyohhhh yeah nm07:09
holymolythats just the bootsplash07:09
holymolythat doesn't really mean much07:09
holymolyyou are still at your terminal07:09
CostaRicanQuakeryeah07:10
holymolyokay so you are logged in, are you able to post your sources.list file anywhere?07:10
CostaRicanQuakerso i type control alt delete07:10
CostaRicanQuakerhow?07:10
holymolynothign should happen07:10
CostaRicanQuakersudo /etc/apt/sources.list ?07:10
holymolyare you able to post your sources.list file anywhere?07:10
holymolydo you have access to that file from another machine maybe? no?07:10
CostaRicanQuakerare you asking me if i can open up the file with the sources list from the terminal?07:11
CostaRicanQuakernope07:11
holymolyno, i'm asking you if you can post the contents on sources.list07:11
holymolyhowever07:11
CostaRicanQuakernope07:11
holymolysince you don't know how to open it you obviously can't post it anyway07:11
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holymolyin any case just do nano /etc/apt/sources.list07:11
holymolypost like one or two lines in here07:11
holymolybut no more07:12
CostaRicanQuakerok brb07:12
CostaRicanQuakerok first line07:19
CostaRicanQuakerdeb htpp... hardy main restricted multiverse universe07:19
holymolyk07:19
CostaRicanQuakerscond line dep http...security main restricted07:20
holymolyokay good enough07:20
holymolyso07:20
CostaRicanQuakeryes07:20
holymolybasically your a bit screwed i guess ...07:20
holymolyyou have a failed dist-upgrade07:20
holymolyand getting out of that gracefully is hard07:20
CostaRicanQuakerok07:20
holymolyyou probably have a rather large number of mixed old and new libraries07:20
holymolyand so getting say kdm with kde running will be difficult07:20
holymolyso before we do anything07:21
CostaRicanQuakerbrb i gotta open the door07:21
holymolyyou probably already tried sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, yes?07:21
CostaRicanQuakeryes07:23
CostaRicanQuakerdidnt work07:23
CostaRicanQuakerback*07:23
holymolyokay so are you able to do anything without leaving here?07:24
holymolyon the ubuntu install i mean07:24
holymolysounds like you have a dual boot system and are on windows07:24
CostaRicanQuakernope07:24
CostaRicanQuakerys07:24
CostaRicanQuakeryes, ia m07:24
holymoly*hmm*07:24
holymolyokay forgive me i will try not to annoy you but i haveto ask07:25
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dsffsfhello07:25
holymolydownloading hardy  results in what? it checksums okay, it burns okay, but when you start the install process it fails?07:25
* CostaRicanQuaker is very easily unnanoyed07:25
ol_dude67hey got a question, just wondering if i need to ask here or java...but yahoo pool is hell..anyone know why?07:25
CostaRicanQuakeryes, it says either07:25
holymolyol_dude67: url?07:25
CostaRicanQuakerstarting the base system07:26
CostaRicanQuakeror downloading software07:26
CostaRicanQuakerit stays around 6 percent or 25 depending on which07:26
holymolylets clarify that statement07:26
CostaRicanQuakerfor about 4-8 hours07:26
CostaRicanQuakerand nothing happens07:26
dsffsfOk why o i have such fliping troble with any version of linux i tried07:26
holymolyis that during the download that that particular error happens?07:26
ol_dude67its yahoo pool...and java...just wondering if its just me or what...07:26
Az99elhelo07:26
holymolydsffsf: 99% of the time is not knowing just enough to really get it running07:27
holymolyol_dude67: well i can't tell, you got a url so we can test?07:27
dsffsfim using fedora907:27
dsffsfit  sucks07:27
dsffsfi have tied opensuse07:27
holymolydsffsf: well that goes without saying for anything redhat  based on a desktop07:27
dsffsfdebian07:27
ol_dude67switch to ubuntu07:27
holymolylol07:27
holymoly:) i kid i kid07:27
Az99elvous etes des extraterrestre07:27
dsffsfand i have tried kubuntu07:27
holymolydsffsf: i can get all of those working without a problem on most hardware07:28
Az99elvous parler  pas pas normalement07:28
holymolyits really trivial to be honest07:28
dsffsfi have a rt2500 linksys card07:28
holymolyCostaRicanQuaker: so when it says 6 percent ... you mean it just stopped downloading, yes?07:28
dsffsfand it wont work in most distros07:28
holymolyokay07:28
holymolyget a new one07:28
holymolythat does work07:28
holymolyits sort of like food07:28
CostaRicanQuakerduring the download?07:28
holymolyif you don't like the taste you don't insist on eating more of it07:29
ol_dude67ok let me give a better example of the problem...first ...i can play pool but if i leave table java screws up and i have to start from scratch to get back to room07:29
holymolyyou order something you like07:29
holymolysame process07:29
CostaRicanQuakerwhen i install the cd07:29
holymolyol_dude67: how about a url?07:29
CostaRicanQuakerit installs07:29
CostaRicanQuakerand during the download or setting up the base system07:29
CostaRicanQuakerit gets stuck07:29
holymolyif i can actually look at it i can verify if at minimum happens here07:29
dsffsfim dl the kubuntu amd64 dvd now07:29
holymolyaha CostaRicanQuaker okay good more info07:29
holymolyCostaRicanQuaker: yes i have seen that happen07:29
holymolyCostaRicanQuaker: usually its a driver issue of some sort07:30
CostaRicanQuakerso i thought07:30
CostaRicanQuakerits the cdrw i'm using07:30
CostaRicanQuakerlets buy some cdrs07:30
CostaRicanQuakerso i did07:30
ol_dude67http://games.yahoo.com/games/ante07:30
holymolyright07:30
CostaRicanQuakerevery single cd i checked for errors07:30
ol_dude67thats where im at07:30
CostaRicanQuakeryou know when it asks you what you want ot do install kubuntu check cd for errors etc07:30
CostaRicanQuakerhad errors07:30
CostaRicanQuakereven the ones that i got from official torrents07:30
CostaRicanQuakerso instead i looked in an old drawer07:31
holymolyokay so cds have errors07:31
holymolyaha07:31
CostaRicanQuakerand i had some old canonical07:31
CostaRicanQuaker5.1007:31
holymolyyes cd errors will cause this problem too07:31
CostaRicanQuakerso i ahd an old canonical 5.10 ubuntu cd07:31
CostaRicanQuakerso i used that07:31
dsffsfand has amd gotten on the ball with the drivers for linux yet07:31
CostaRicanQuakerand i got kubuntu and then xubuntu07:31
CostaRicanQuakerand i was happy as a kite07:31
CostaRicanQuakerbut then i needed hardy07:31
CostaRicanQuakerso i got dapper first07:32
CostaRicanQuakerthat seemed fine07:32
CostaRicanQuakerthen this happened07:32
holymolyyes right07:32
holymolyokay so you are doing something kind of tricky in ubuntu07:32
holymolydist-upgrading is a 50/50 proposition07:32
CostaRicanQuakerwhat does that mean?07:32
holymolythey have a team that is supposed to test the upgrade process07:32
holymolybut dist-upgrading sometimes works sometimes you get a hosed system like you ended up with07:33
holymolyit works far better on debian, but debian has 2 year dev cycles while ubuntu has 6 month dev cycles07:33
CostaRicanQuakerwell07:33
CostaRicanQuakersomeone said07:33
CostaRicanQuakeri should upgrade release by release07:33
CostaRicanQuakerup to hardy07:33
dsffsfwow07:33
CostaRicanQuakerbut i wanted to do it from dapper to hardy07:33
holymolyCostaRicanQuaker: that works sure07:34
holymolyits just that each jump is about 50/50 ... okay odds are probably wway better07:34
holymolyhowever i do a lot of ubuntu related stuff ... we have hundreds of ubuntu desktops07:34
holymolylets just say we have given up on dist upgrades07:34
CostaRicanQuakerthen how do you upgrade?07:34
CostaRicanQuakerwait 6 weeks for canonical to shipit?07:35
dsffsfholymoly: you know ne thing about the amd drivers07:35
holymolywhat we do is create new images on hard drives, send out hds and just have a local tech replace the hds and boot the machine up07:35
holymolythen we just push the users data back to them07:35
holymolyit's just the price you pay for such an ambitious project with such short release cycles07:35
CostaRicanQuakeri didn't get after send out hds07:35
CostaRicanQuakerexplain07:35
holymolywe are just gratefull to be off of the ms upgrade cycle07:35
CostaRicanQuakeri beseech07:36
holymolywe can put up with this no problem its simple in comparison to dealing with ms crap07:36
holymolywell ubuntu doesn't care what box its on07:36
dsffsfheard07:36
holymolyjust install it on an hd07:36
CostaRicanQuakeragreed07:36
holymolyand plug it into any machine07:36
CostaRicanQuakeraha07:36
holymolyand it will start up 99.9 percent of the time07:36
holymolyall our boxes are supported, we make sure we don't buy microsoft crap07:36
ol_dude67CostaRicanQuaker, your better off going from a full install of the newest...dont start with old start with what is out...07:37
holymolyso we just send out hd's and swap, its the only real way07:37
holymolyso as ol_dude67said, you REALLY need to figure out a way to get a good hardy cd burned off07:37
holymoly:/07:37
dsffsfyall heard ne thing about the amd video card drivers07:37
holymolynothign wrong with your way, its just the odds are against you it seems07:37
CostaRicanQuakerok here's the deal07:37
ol_dude67ya amd is working hard to catch up...07:37
holymolydsffsf: yess sorry just busy07:37
CostaRicanQuakeri have ordered 15 cds07:37
CostaRicanQuakerfrom shipit07:37
holymolyol_dude67: so crazy pool 2?07:37
dsffsfits cool holymoly07:38
CostaRicanQuakerit will probably take months to get here07:38
ol_dude67ya it wont let me leave a game...07:38
holymolyol_dude67: none of those games are java07:38
ol_dude67with out a redo07:38
holymolyol_dude67: its flash07:38
CostaRicanQuakermost likely it will be hardy right?07:38
CostaRicanQuakerwhat i'm going to get07:38
ol_dude67no pool is java based07:38
CostaRicanQuakerso technically speaking07:38
holymolyyour url didn't bring up the game07:38
ol_dude67hardy is probably it..if not ...do single upgrades.07:38
holymolyhe did07:38
holymolythey didn't work07:38
CostaRicanQuakerthats what i mean07:39
holymolylets actually try to read as we help fellas07:39
dsffsflolz07:39
ol_dude67you have to go to yahoo an log in...its there way of doing things...i think its java based problems.07:39
CostaRicanQuakerok anyway07:39
ol_dude67i asked in java..but no reply yet.07:39
CostaRicanQuakeri will get hardy eventually07:39
CostaRicanQuakerto upgrade to that07:39
CostaRicanQuakerand then i can just wait till the next lst comes out07:39
CostaRicanQuakermeanwhile07:39
CostaRicanQuakeri gotta get ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu back07:40
CostaRicanQuakerand have it all on dapper that is07:40
CostaRicanQuakerdapper worked fine it was upgrading from dapper to hardy that messed things up07:40
CostaRicanQuakerso how do i get back to that07:40
holymolyi can't access the game so i can't test07:41
holymolysorry07:41
ol_dude67i thought ubuntu had a back track?07:41
holymolyback track what?07:41
CostaRicanQuakersure jumping several upgrades apart from dapper to hardy probably wasn't good but maybe i canupgrade one by one07:41
CostaRicanQuakerso what do i do holymoly?07:41
holymolyyeah thats far less risky07:41
ol_dude67thats what you needed to do...to many upgrades in between07:41
holymolywell try that if you can't wait for cd's07:41
holymolyyou don't have a choice really07:41
CostaRicanQuakeryes but what do i do withmy hosed up system now?07:42
CostaRicanQuakerto boot the GUI07:42
holymolynothing, its not really hosed07:42
holymolyput the cd in and install07:42
holymolydapepr or whatever it is07:42
CostaRicanQuakerwhat?07:42
holymolyyour windows will still be there07:42
CostaRicanQuakerok then, here's my question07:42
holymolyand the installer should still recognize the windows partition and ask you about it07:42
CostaRicanQuakerwhen i stick in the cd07:42
holymolyk07:43
CostaRicanQuakeri can write it over the existing07:43
holymolysure07:43
CostaRicanQuakerext3 partition right?07:43
holymolyyep07:43
holymolyjust MAKE SURE you don't overwrite your windows partition07:43
CostaRicanQuakerformatting allprevious data from the *buntus07:43
holymolyyou sound smart enough to know which is which07:43
holymolyyes correct07:43
* CostaRicanQuaker looks desperaely for the ubuntu cd07:43
holymolygrub should find your windows partition and put an entry pointing to it as well07:43
dsffsfyeah never had a problem with it not finding mine when i had windows07:44
CostaRicanQuakerok please don't leave i will still need you to update to dapper and edgy and install xubuntu and kubuntu07:44
ol_dude67now if we was talking slackware...id say have fun...lol07:44
holymolyheh07:45
dsffsfok my turn?07:45
holymolysure07:45
dsffsflol07:45
ol_dude67why not...lol07:45
dsffsfi am tired of flipingwindows07:45
ol_dude67haha so delete it..lmao07:45
dsffsfi have used linux on and off since fc607:46
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dsffsfmy main problem is hard ware support07:47
dsffsfhave it on every machine i fliping get07:47
dsffsflol07:47
holymolywe never run into that, we always buysupported stuff07:47
ol_dude67what type of hard ware?07:47
dsffsfthere like a kubuntu hardware store lol07:47
ol_dude67no but there is linux base stores..just like mac07:48
dsffsfcool07:48
dsffsfhave not really looked for them lol07:48
ol_dude67google is your friend07:48
ol_dude67hey i run a p4 with kubuntu..so anything is possible.07:49
dsffsfi have a att/amd radeon 9800xt07:49
dsffsfati*07:49
holymolythats the first problem right there07:49
holymoly:)07:49
dsffsfand the drivers sorta have issues or somthing07:49
ol_dude67right now amd and ati are having fits to fit in.07:50
dsffsfthe one game i want to work in linux under wine wont fricking work07:50
dsffsfthat trivia lol07:50
dsffsftrivial07:50
holymolythats common indeed07:50
dsffsf(sorry have a thing on my left had/wrist sliced the tendon/atery and nerve so bear with the horrid spelling)07:51
ol_dude67np07:51
dsffsfi like to tweak around inside linux07:51
dsffsfand make it my one so tocspeak07:52
holymolyit's fun eh?07:52
ol_dude67amd and ati are now one, and are committed to putting out the best machines possible...but you will still have to give them time to get there s____ together.07:52
dsffsfyes i love linux07:52
ol_dude67sorry im a amd fan.07:52
dsffsfsame here07:52
ol_dude67bought this box cause it was cheap.07:53
dsffsfi download the beta hardy kde3 version07:53
unholyskornAnyone know a good mac channel?07:54
dsffsfmay i ask why kubuntu disables the root account07:55
ol_dude67so you dont screw it up.07:55
unholyskornanyone know how to get mac osx to run on a x86 pc?07:55
asraniel__dsffsf: for the same reason ubuntu does, security problems and that people don't login as root07:55
dsffsfMe screw it up ;)07:56
ol_dude67yep...all it takes is a bad command ...07:56
asraniel__dsffsf: well, if you are a experienced user, you can always enable the root account again07:56
ol_dude67and linux will let you07:56
dsffsfunholy google it07:56
asraniel__dsffsf: but for what do you need the root account anyway?07:56
dsffsfthere are a few site that will help07:56
unholyskorncan i just burn the dvd and install like normal?07:57
dsffsfno mac used diff hardware and it need  hacks and stuff to make it work07:57
asraniel__osx on normal pc? no, wont work withou a few hacks07:57
unholyskornhow hard is it to do?07:57
unholyskorni have windows and kubuntu now i wanna put osx on here too07:58
ol_dude67ok im out of here...laters im not helping anymore..07:58
ol_dude67g/night07:58
JdGordonhey all, I've just installed hardy and for some reason I have no sound... Kinfocenter shows my audio hardware, and output is not muted in alsamixer... but i have no sound08:22
CostaRicanQuakerok so i am on the terminal08:27
CostaRicanQuakerhow did i do open my sources.list?08:27
CostaRicanQuakerholymoly?08:27
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CostaRicanQuakerhelp08:30
CostaRicanQuakeri just installed breezy ubuntu release 5.10, i need to know how to open my sources.list file and someone to help me get the dapper repos to upgrade to dapper and then get xubunt-desktop08:31
gnomefreakCostaRicanQuaker: sudo kedit /etc/apt/sources.list and change breezy to dapper08:32
gnomefreakCostaRicanQuaker: kedit or any editor you like best08:32
|Ange|us|guys08:33
|Ange|us|im loged in over ssh from my fathers computer to my kubuntu box08:34
bsusaIm having some trouble running Tremulous on Ubuntu 8.04 when i get in the game it opend fine but the screen flickers frequently, then when i actually start playing thr game it puts me into window mode and i cant move. Any suggestions please?08:34
CostaRicanQuakerdidnt work with kedit08:34
|Ange|us|do you know how i can play mp3's over ssh ? i want to hear the sound on the windows computer not on the kubuntu box, please somebody helps me08:34
CostaRicanQuakerdidnt work with kedit08:35
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CostaRicanQuakerwhat do i type?08:35
kkiilwhat disk do i need to dl to get my raid array to show in amd 64 dvd install08:36
CostaRicanQuakersudo: /etc/apt/sources.list: command not found08:38
CostaRicanQuakersebastian@sebastian:~$08:38
CostaRicanQuakerholymoly, can you help me get the dapper repos?08:44
sunny256Hi, folks... Have some trouble with apt-get - dists/hardy/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 is broken everywhere (CRC error). Any solutions to things like that? The .gz file seems OK, but I'm not sure how I'll tell apt-get to use that instead.08:58
jaakkomeIs there a way to make Kmail ignore certain files / folders on my mail account?09:00
jaakkomeNow it fails when it tries to read files there as mailboxes even though there are also other kinds of files on the account09:01
visik7hi all09:12
visik7anyone tried to compile amarok2 from svn ?09:12
ActionParsniphey all09:15
havocologehow to add newer versions of packages than they are available in aptitude ?09:23
ActionParsniphavocologe: download the .deb file09:23
ActionParsniphavocologe: sudo dpkg -i /path/to/deb/file09:24
havocologethere is no dpkg file. only a source.rpm09:25
ActionParsniphavocologe: try lots to find a deb09:26
ActionParsnipbut if all else fails09:26
ActionParsnip!alien | havocologe09:26
ubottuhavocologe: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)09:26
ActionParsniphavocologe: alien is really an ABSOLUTE last ditch as its not very graceful or advised, but can be done09:26
ActionParsniphavocologe: id try to keep to debs09:27
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havocologehow to know what version of kubuntu is running on my actual machine ?09:36
DarkriftXtype in console "uname -a"09:39
CostaRicanQuakerlsb_release -a09:39
slooblackbonjour09:41
havocologeCostaRicanQuaker: thanks09:46
daesunghey who can me help? I have problem in logging out..09:59
pc_hi10:05
daesunghi10:05
pc_do u know the french server for ubuntu please?10:05
havocologedaesung: could you be a bit more specific ?10:05
daesunghaha thanks a lot10:05
pc_??10:06
daesungI am using nvidia mx 200MX and in logging out I got just black screen10:06
pc_please i have a pb with my ftpserver10:07
daesungthen I can not use more any key. what I can do is to press ctrl+alt+del10:08
daesungpc : sorry .. I have no idea for the french server10:09
Nece228does full upgrade downloads and installs the updates?10:10
daesungof course..10:10
daesungI am using nvidia-glx package also10:11
Nece228sudo apt-get full-upgrade will do that?10:11
pc_no pb i will speak english10:11
gnomefreakNece228: you do know that doesnt do anything right?10:12
Nece228yeah10:12
Nece228what command is for donwloading and installing upgrades10:12
Nece228i want to this via console10:12
gnomefreakNece228: either sudo apt-get upgrade or sudo apt-get dist-upgrade10:13
daesungI have used jest Adapt manager10:13
CostaRicanQuakerI should STUDY ubuntu!10:13
* CostaRicanQuaker has an epiphany10:13
gnomefreakNece228: now sure what you are doing upgrading (is it just normal hardy updates or are you upgrading from gutsy to hardy10:13
daesungno I installed new hardy..10:14
Nece228its normal hardy updates10:14
Nece228i had installed kubuntu hardy few months ago10:14
gnomefreakNece228: than those commands are good10:14
waylandbillI'm looking for a simple way to dump the filesystem to multiple DVD-RW disks. Any suggestions?10:14
Nece228but now i want do all upgrades, to provide more stable system10:14
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daesunganyboy has problem with nvidia driver in logging out?10:15
daesungplz help me... it makes me annoy...10:15
SniZzome no... (GT6600)10:15
daesungwhy black screen... I hv no problem if I do not use nvidia-glx.. but with 3d accelleration10:17
tictricdaesung: try proposed-updates repository from ubuntu10:18
tictricdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-proposed main restricted universe multiverse10:18
tictricif you haven't yet10:18
tictricThere's a more recent driver iirc10:18
___thomaxanyone here can tell me how to shape network traffic per application?10:19
apparle!kde410:19
ubottuKDE 4.0.5 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.5.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde410:19
daesungtictric: I will try it10:20
daesungthanks10:20
Mentaticusgood day all10:25
Mentaticuswondering if anyone can help me with a partion issue10:25
tictricdaesung: see also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#Troubleshooting10:26
tictricoh, to late :)10:27
jaakkomehas somebody got teamspeak 2 working with alsa-oss ?10:28
Mentaticusi recently installed ubuntu and then decided to use the KDE desktop (which i like more) that then went to uninstall kde killed install10:28
Mentaticustrying to reformat10:28
Mentaticusnoticed in windows there were some extra partions10:29
Mentaticusdelted those10:29
Mentaticusnow in windows burning kubuntu 410:29
Mentaticushopingh windows install isnt deaed10:29
tictricMentaticus: you could've installed kde from gnome desktop too or use them alongside :(10:30
Mentaticusyeah10:30
Mentaticusbut its was kde 3.5.9 i think10:30
Mentaticuswanted the latest10:30
Mentaticusso i uninstalled10:30
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tictricwasn't necessary either10:31
Mentaticusor thougt i uninstalled thru synaptic manager10:31
Mentaticusonce i removed everything called kde i crashed the windows interfece in linux10:31
Mentaticusim a linux n00b10:32
Mentaticusim serious about learning10:32
Mentaticuslast i used was mandrake10:32
tictricnext time before you uninstall or kill your hd you better ask here:)10:32
Mentaticusback in the 90's10:32
Mentaticusagreed10:32
Mentaticuslol10:32
Mentaticusso im guess i should restart see if windows still works10:32
Mentaticusthen install kubuntu10:33
Mentaticusadvice at this point?10:33
Mentaticusbefore i restart tictric10:34
Mentaticuswhen i rebooted i would have options for linux or windows10:35
Mentaticusi deltd partitions10:35
Mentaticusthat i didnt know in windows10:35
daesungtittric: I tried what u said.. but I still hv same problem in logging out10:35
Mentaticushoping that would get rid of linux instal10:35
Mentaticusrestarting brb10:35
Mentaticusmaybe10:36
guillaume_salut enzo10:38
guillaume_on est tot seuls ??10:38
enzo_non10:38
guillaume_xkcd.com10:38
apparleare juk an ddragon based on xine10:39
apparlewhy can't I open p.u.c10:46
apparlewhy can't I open packages.ubuntu.com10:51
LiNuxBaBei'm running kubuntu 8.04,, installed ndiswrapper,, but if I try to connect with wifi-radar he won't get an ip-adress.. Dmesg output says ndiswrapper:: key 1 not set11:24
apparle!arts11:27
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about arts11:27
sigma_12how do i install kubuntu onto a apple imac?11:31
apparleIthink it is the powerpc version11:32
sigma_12wasnt it discontinued?11:32
rysiekguys, I need to turn off power saving features of nVidia GF8500 (i.e. so that the monitor doesn't get turned off after 45mins), but I have to do it from console11:33
rysiekany hints?11:33
sigma_12why do you have to do it from konsole?11:35
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apparlesigma_12: I don't know11:36
rysieksigma_12: because it's a machine being used as a server11:37
rysieksigma_12: although it's not kubuntu server, it's a regular desktop flavor11:37
rysieksigma_12: don't ask why11:38
dbgltfor some reason, the cpu throttling in kpowersave does not work (but I can set it manually from the CLI). Any ideas what could be wrong?11:41
bsusahello11:44
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engineeromg11:45
engineerCrude Oil11:45
engineer$145.2711:45
bsusaMy situattion is this. The game that i am running is running in 640x480 mode fullscreen, whenever i change the reso in the game it tries to but then freezes. So i am wondering if there is a way to execute the game from the terminal and force a resolution?11:45
JanMalteIs there a good article about using gpg under win in combination with outlook?11:45
JanMaltewhich game?11:46
bsusaConan: The Dark Axe11:51
waylandbillis it feasible to have the /home on a ntfs partition since it's now safe for reading and writing?11:54
apparlewaylandbill: I don't recommend it because I thnk NTFS is proprietary of microsft12:00
Amarilishi guys!12:01
pc_hello all!12:02
Amarilisi need to know if there is a way to save my mbr ( i have a dual boot machine win-lin) and i dont want to loose the settings12:02
pc_i have a problem with ssh12:02
Amarilisi use grub as boot manager12:03
pc_soemone knows why i don't connect me by internet?12:03
pc_help me please12:04
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thierry@pc dou you have wireless or cable?12:07
audecable12:07
thierryconnected straight or with a router?12:07
auderouteur12:08
audeare u french?12:08
thierryno, but can you connect to your router?12:08
audeyes12:08
thekingIs anybody here to help?12:10
thierrylet me see12:10
thierrydo you have manuel configuration or dhcp?12:10
ActionParsniphey all12:11
audedhcp12:11
audewith redirection dyndns12:11
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Guest54559Hola, alguien me puede explicar como van los escritorios de KDE12:17
Guest54559es que cambio de escritorio, pero las ventanas que estaban en el otro escritorio aun estyan visibles en la barra12:17
NickPresta!es | Guest5455912:18
ubottuGuest54559: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.12:18
ActionParsnipwhy do people use guest as a nick12:18
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JanMalte Is there a good article about using gpg under win in combination with outlook?12:27
briggzerhey guys....12:30
flaccidJanMalte: ##windows and google12:31
JanMalteyes, its not for my information, its for spreading the information12:32
philsfhi, I'm using kontact in gnome, and I found a reproductible crash bug. I'd like to use the Report bug entry in Help menu to fill relevant information for me, however, it apparently only have the option to report directly to .kde.org.  Also despite having apport-qt installed, apport doesn't kick in (kcrash does). How can I make apport-qt catch the crash, so I can easilly report directly to launchpad?12:42
SlimGHow do I connect to a ssh server with the fish protocol (Konqueror) when the ssh-server is running on another port then 22 ?12:54
philsfSlimG: have you tried appending the usual way of appending :port_no to the server?12:59
SlimGphilsf: embarrasing, That works, it was the first thing I tested, but I might have been fooled by a defect network connection :P13:02
Dr_willis:)13:02
philsfSlimG: I would be upset if it didn't work :)13:03
philsfis apport-qt supposed to work with kcrash, or should I remove kcrash so that apport-qt collects crash information?13:05
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Githzeraiphilsf: I belive that much more than apport-qt is required for full debug output13:06
philsfGithzerai: such as?13:06
Githzeraiphilsf: Do you have all -dbg packages ?13:07
GithzeraiGithzerai: for Kontact13:07
philsfGithzerai: I don't see -dbg for kontact nor kmail13:08
philsfGithzerai: oh, kdepim-dbg13:08
Githzeraiphilsf: And Knotify itself does crash a lot in Gnome, kind of a setback if u ask me :)13:08
philsfI didn't have it installaedm I'll try it now13:09
philsfGithzerai: yeah? doest it complain, or crash silently for you?13:09
Githzeraiphilsf: Well, knotify offers u easy bug reporting through mail service. In Gnome sometimes it just doesn't apperar, or appears but can't do anything with it....13:11
philsfGithzerai: hmm, I honestly never noticed it. I usually cancel email reports anyway. I guess the only crashes I get to email-report are amarok's13:12
Githzeraiphilsf: Amarok has different packaging philosophy. And it an extragear app, so bugs are not reported to KDE but Amarok devel...13:13
philsfwhat's been driving me nuts is kpilotDaemon. hardy's version can't work properly for long. crashes and freezes a lot. and when it doesn't freeze per se, it doesn't respond to other programs calls (even kpilot!), and keeps me from logging out/shutdown/reboot13:13
philsfGithzerai: in that case, I think never got knotify to report a bug by email :)13:14
philsfbut I never got a crash report about either (at least not from kcrash)13:14
root.13:15
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Githzeraiphilsf: Well, if you use it in Gnome, you should know that some things are just ment to be used in KDE and depend on lot of KDE stuff. Yes I (used to) have Knotify appearances i Gnome, but my primary session was allways and will be KDE. Maybe that has to do something with it . :) ;)13:17
philsfGithzerai: I'd thought that by now amarok should be integrated with kde.13:18
Githzeraiphilsf: Yes it is integrated. More than ever. ;)13:18
philsfGithzerai: I mean, as a core app, kdemultimedia?13:19
Githzeraiphilsf: It's just that it isn't official part of kde, but an extragear app. ;)13:19
philsfGithzerai: yeah, that's what I tried to say :) s/integrated/official/13:20
Githzeraiphilsf: Progams that have story of there own are supposed to be separated from basic KDE. Say, K3b an many other develop in such way...13:21
philsfGithzerai: I read somewhere that KDE4 is/was supposed to eliminate excessive duplication of apps for the same purpose (kedit/kwrite/kate, for example). is that correct/still stand?13:22
Githzeraiphilsf: Which deosn't in any way mean that they are not well integrated in enviroment ;)13:22
philsfGithzerai: I'm sorry I used "integrated" :) I meant official13:22
philsfGithzerai: I used KDE from 3.0 to k.5.7, I agree there are no integration issues (au contraire)13:23
Githzeraiphilsf: I understand. ;) Just trying to explain the meaning of extragear. ;)13:24
Githzeraiphilsf: as for KDE4 I honestly don't know. I've been using it all the way, and even nowdays I find myself wondering what were developers thinking... It's a good stuff though, just don't ask for plans ... ;)13:26
philsfI also read that KDE4.0 is not targetted for end users, as will be KDE4.1. is this correct?13:27
philsfI mean, even though it's stable13:28
Githzeraiphilsf: Intrepid Ibex is going to be KDE 4.1. That covers it all. ;) As for further questions about KDE 4, think #kubuntu-kde4 is appropriate place. ;)13:29
emilsedghphilsf: it good for people who want to run on bleeding edge software13:30
Githzeraiemilsedgh: Wrong ;)13:30
philsfGithzerai: nice, didn't know that about intrepid. looking forward for that13:31
emilsedghthen sorry Githzerai13:32
Dr_willis3 editors is escessive? heh13:32
ct529I am trying to listen again to programs on bbc 7. I have mozilla installed with mozilla helix player plug in, but it does not play automatically the ram files. Why?13:32
philsfDr_willis: you don't think so??13:33
philsfGithzerai: btw, installing kdepim-dbg didn't make apport notice the crash. further ideas?13:34
Githzeraiemilsedgh: Try KDE 4.1 beta 2, than make oppinion for yourself. Don't listen anything anybody tells you, but listen to yourself ;)13:34
emilsedghGithzerai: im on svn13:34
emilsedghGithzerai: and its awesome :)13:34
Githzeraiemilsedgh: Well trunk is bleeding edge, that's for sure :) ;)13:36
emilsedghGithzerai: oh, sorry, i thought the guy asked about 4.0, now i scrolled up and saw he asked about 4.113:36
emilsedgh:P13:36
emilsedghGithzerai: i really think i need to sleep for a while!13:37
philsfalthough the trace was much richer13:37
Githzeraiemilsedgh: :) Usually helps.  Than u wake up and see : "OMG no updates today !!!" Then u wonder why u even woke up...... :D13:38
emilsedghGithzerai: haha yeah13:40
Githzeraiphilsf: No idea honestly. Not much of a Gnome user. IMHO Gnome's even existance is a bug for itself, so can't be much of a help ... ;)13:40
philsfGithzerai: lol, ok let's leave it at that :)13:41
Githzeraiphilsf: Be a man : Use KDE :D ;)13:41
philsfno flamewars intended13:41
Githzeraiphilsf: We're all having fun, no flamewars intended indeed. ;)13:42
philsf:)13:43
Dr_willisPhlame wars13:44
philsftbh, I changed because the excessive availability of choice in KDE was keeping from my my job. I'm an upgrade freak, and a config freak, so I can never see a new option feature and not try it13:44
Githzeraiphilsf: That's the spirit. ;)13:45
philsfmy advisor disagrees :)13:45
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tcpsynmorning14:15
tcpsynWhere does kde 4.1 keep it's startup logs?14:17
tcpsynI have to delete .kde4 every time I restart KDE and I'd like to find out why14:17
waylandbillanyone know of a utility to edit iso contents?14:19
bazhangwaylandbill, you want to customize or just remove something from iso14:20
BluesKajhiyas14:24
waylandbillbazhang: customize.14:25
bazhang!uck14:25
ubottuUCK is a tool that helps you customise official Ubuntu Live CDs (including Kubuntu/Xubuntu and Edubuntu) to your needs. See http://uck.sourceforge.net/14:25
bazhangwaylandbill, ^^14:25
waylandbillok. cool.14:26
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thewhitepelicanis there a program to easily clear out the /var/cache/apt/archives folder?14:36
Picithewhitepelican: Sure! sudo apt-get clean14:37
thewhitepelicancool14:37
thewhitepelican:)14:37
thewhitepelicanwho needs a gui hehe14:37
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ct529what do you use to listen to podcats under kde / kubuntu?14:56
roo82Amarok :D14:57
magu507oi oi15:00
magu507I need help ffs15:00
bazhangneed a question magu50715:00
magu507I just installed kubuntu, everythings working fine, yet I cannot install anything15:01
magu507some error always pops up15:01
bazhangwhat error magu50715:01
giagkostCan anyone please tell me how can I speak through the IRC client but I cannot see web pages using konqueror?15:03
giagkostanybody who can help me?15:03
magu507There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.15:03
Soraxmaybe konqueror is in offline mode?15:03
magu507it seems like the linuxubuntu modules are broken15:03
giagkosthow do I fix it?15:04
giagkostMy modem is crypto F20015:04
magu507Ubuntu supplied Linux modules for version 2.6.22 on x86/x86_64 seems to be broken15:04
magu507bazhang , can I get it from the install cd?15:05
bazhangmagu507, could you pastebin the exact error at paste.ubuntu.com15:05
magu507oh sure mate15:09
magu507Ubuntu supplied Linux modules for version 2.6.22 on x86/x86_6415:09
magu507This package contains modules supplied by Ubuntu for Linux kernel 2.6.22 on x86/x86_64.15:09
magu507You likely do not want to install this package directly. Instead, install the linux-generic meta-package, which will ensure that upgrades work correctly, and that supporting packages are also installed.15:09
giagkostI think I made the right configurations but this message appears:15:09
giagkostPlugin pppoatm.so loaded.15:09
giagkostUsing interface ppp015:09
giagkostConnect: ppp0 <--> 8.3515:09
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giagkostPAP authentication succeeded15:10
giagkostCannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP15:10
giagkostlocal  IP address 213.5.61.3815:10
giagkostremote IP address 213.5.0.1315:10
giagkostprimary   DNS address 213.5.41.815:10
giagkostsecondary DNS address15:10
bazhangjust install the linux-generic package then magu50715:10
giagkostanybody knows the answer how to fix konqueror?15:12
giagkost I did some efforts connecting with konqueror and it says there is a problem with proxy15:27
ImperialJesterCan someone tell me how to set Mozilla as my dominant browser?/15:31
ImperialJester(please)15:31
divansantanaunder systemsettings15:31
divansantanadefault appliactions15:31
divansantanaweb browser...15:31
ImperialJesterUm... Can you do it through the command line?15:32
ImperialJesterNevermind, I got it. Thank you.15:34
divansantanacool15:34
lcsabaldet' %)15:34
lcshow to delete (uninstall) KDE3, when i install KDE4 ?15:39
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lnxkdehi guys15:48
ImperialJesterHello...15:48
GithzeraiTuj sam15:48
lnxkdehi , I need to know a if you guys know of a good rauter that has QOS and VPN15:49
lnxkde:D15:49
bazhang##hardware may know15:50
lnxkdedint know about that chanel :D15:50
karl_lnxkde: get the wrt54gL and install openwrt15:52
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geegahi.. how to add the system tray if we remove. it is in ubuntu 8.0416:46
geegaanybody have idea on this16:46
ActionParsnipsup geega16:46
geegahi16:46
geegahi.. how to add the system tray if we remove. it is in ubuntu 8.04. any idea ?16:46
ActionParsnipgeega: do you mean for when you minimise apps16:48
ActionParsnip?16:48
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ActionParsnipGuest7296: id log off, then log on as a user account16:48
geegano. there some notification icons will be there16:48
geegathat one16:48
ActionParsnipgeega: oh, like near the clock?16:48
geegayes16:48
ActionParsnipgeega: ok I now know what you mean16:48
ActionParsnipgeega: if you right click on that bar16:49
ActionParsnipadd applet16:49
geegathat applet option . i couldn't see here16:49
geegaonly add to pannel and new panel16:50
ActionParsnipgeega: kde3 or kde4/16:50
geegaubuntu - desktop16:50
ActionParsnipgeega: do you use kde or gnome?16:50
geegagnome16:50
ActionParsnipthen head over to #ubuntu and ask there but i may be able to websearch you something16:51
ActionParsniphttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31137016:51
ActionParsnipgeega: Right click empty space on your panel, click "Add to panel" and choose "Notification Area".16:52
ActionParsnipapparently16:52
ActionParsnipoh well16:55
mitsarionashi... i have a laptop, and though it's set on dynamic (or powersave) on guidance power manager, /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/throttling says it's on T016:57
llutzMoin16:57
mitsarionasit's not ok is it? :S16:57
ActionParsniplo llutz16:59
mitsarionasany ideas? ...or ideas about where should i ask such stuff?17:00
ct529I am using amarok on kubuntu 804 .... but the only engine available is xine .... where are the packages for helix for example?17:01
ActionParsnipmitsarionas: no idea man sorry17:01
ActionParsnipct529: http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/MP3_on_Ubuntu_5.1017:02
mitsarionas:( weird though, isn't it?17:02
ActionParsnipThere is no Helix binary available for Kubuntu, you have to compile amaroK from source with a Real or Helix player installed.17:02
ct529ActionParsnip: sorry, but helix is definitively available I just installed it17:02
ActionParsnipct529: its an old post but i always use xine17:03
ActionParsnipct529: http://forums.opensuse.org/archives/sf-archives/tips-tricks-tweaks/322978-suse-install-guide.html17:05
ActionParsnipct529: how is helix different?17:05
ct529ActionParsnip: from what?17:06
ActionParsnipct529: xine17:06
ActionParsnipct529: why use helix?17:06
ct529ActionParsnip: I do not know, cannot play bbc with xine ....17:06
ActionParsnipct529: oh, ok. just curious. cheers17:06
shadowhywindhay all having a bit of issues with my firefox3, it keeps crashing with a segmentation fault any ideas?17:13
sacardehi17:13
sacardeI need help for debootstrap17:13
sacardeI have error:17:19
sacardeW: Failure trying to run: chroot /mnt/ubuntu mount -t proc proc /proc17:19
ActionParsniphey all17:21
ActionParsnipwassah17:21
dennis_pSMPlayer rules that´s what´s up :-)17:22
ActionParsnip!smplayer17:23
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about smplayer17:23
ActionParsnip!info smplayer17:23
ubottusmplayer (source: smplayer): complete front-end for MPlayer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.6.0~rc2-1 (hardy), package size 751 kB, installed size 1768 kB17:23
dennis_pIt plays the .sub subtitles readable, unlike other players on kubuntu17:24
ActionParsnipdennis_p: i just use mplayer with a few switches17:25
ActionParsnipdennis_p: gui does make it easier17:25
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Dr_willissacarde,  you are running that as 2 seperate commands? ?17:33
sacardeyes17:34
sacardebut17:34
sacardechroot I have error17:34
sacardechroot /mnt/ubuntu17:34
sacardechroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory17:34
sacardein fact there isnot /bin/bash in /mnt/ubuntu17:35
Dr_willisit would be in /mnt/ubuntu/bin/bash17:40
Dr_willis You may need to tell chroot the path to the shell to use.17:41
sacardebut that file there is not ! in /mnt/ubuntu/bin/bash17:42
Dr_willisThen you got stuff missing it seems17:42
sacardeI ?17:43
Dr_willistry sh, or dash I guess. I dont know whats in your directories.17:43
sacardebootstrap have to create environment on target partition !17:43
sacardei my directory thereis /bin/bash17:43
sacardebut no in target partition17:44
Dr_willislook in /mnt/ubuntu/bin and see what shells are there i guess.17:44
sacardecd /mnt/ubuntu17:44
sacarde[root@localhost ubuntu]# ls17:44
sacardeboot  debootstrap  dev  etc  var17:44
sacardeI havent bin17:44
sacardedebootstrap have create them17:44
Dr_willisLooks like some setps got skipped in making the chroot enviroment. I have never messed with debootstrap.17:45
Dr_willisYou could copy them over from your current setup I guess17:46
sacardeoh17:46
sacardeI try17:46
sacardenot work17:46
Dr_willis!debootstrap17:46
ubottudebootstrap is used to create a !Debian or Ubuntu base system from scratch, without requiring the availability of !dpkg or !APT. It does this by downloading !.deb files from a mirror site, and carefully unpacking them into a directory you can eventually !chroot into.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot for more information17:46
Dr_willisLooks like a deboot strap setup needs to download the various bash deb and other debs. some how.17:46
sebastian_hi, how do i activate 3d desktop effects? cant find the setting17:53
sebastian_so no one here knows how to activate 3d effects?17:59
FoxIIIWhat's the problem sebastian_?17:59
sebastian_i dont know how to activate the 3d desktop effects17:59
sebastian_i cant find the settings17:59
FoxIIIOkay. What graphics card have you got?18:00
sebastian_geforce 418:00
sebastian_440mx18:00
FoxIIIAnd you have this set up correctly? What output do you get from glxgears ?18:00
sebastian_i dont know i started it but the weels just keep rolling18:02
mueslisebastian_: look at console output18:02
sebastian_ok wait18:03
FoxIIIsebastian_: Try using glxgears -info18:03
sebastian_5959 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1191.709 FPS18:03
sebastian_GL_RENDERER   = GeForce4 MX 440/AGP/SSE218:04
sebastian_GL_VERSION    = 1.5.8 NVIDIA 96.43.0518:04
sebastian_GL_VENDOR     = NVIDIA Corporation18:04
FoxIIIsebastian_: Have you enabled Desktop Effects?18:04
sebastian_hehe no thats what i said, i cant find the setting where i enable it18:05
sebastian_its not in system - prefences18:05
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mitsarionassebastian_: should be on kmenu -> system -> desktop effects18:06
sebastian_im using ubuntu18:06
sebastian_maby wrong channel18:06
FoxIIIsebastian_: Try typing desktop-effects or desktop-effects-ke4 in konsole18:06
mitsarionasoh sorry :S18:06
FoxIIIubottu !ubuntu | sebastian_18:13
ubottusebastian_: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com18:13
FoxIIIoh, and #ubuntu :)18:13
bjorn_can someone tell me how to setup my hauppage pvr150 in ubuntu18:14
whileimhereHello. Are there any plug ins for Digikam to export to Google images or Kodaks site?18:14
FoxIIIbjorn_: Is that a tv card?18:14
bjorn_yes fox18:14
FoxIIIubottu !digikam | whileimhere18:15
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about digikam18:15
whileimhereIve asked in the Digikam room 6 times in the last week but I don't think that any of the people there are actully ever at their computer.18:15
ubuntubjorn_:  i think there are proprietary drivers... see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18674718:16
ubuntuthe firmware stuff there...18:16
gibbsscanner hp18:17
FoxIIIbjorn_: Have you tried installing kdetv?18:17
bjorn_have vlcplayer installed18:17
FoxIIITo be able to use a tv card, you will need software to use it.18:18
gibbswhat softwear18:20
Dr_willisI use mythtv. :)18:21
Dr_willisbut it depends on what you want to do with the tv tuner card.18:21
shadowboxHow can I get visualations for amarok. I cant get them with adept.18:21
kalorinok18:21
gibbshp scanner18:21
kalorinwhat do you do hwne there are issues with adept that tell you that it wouldn't commit because it might break something?18:21
Dr_willis!sane18:22
ubottuScanning software: XSane, the GIMP (GNOME), Kooka (KDE). For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners - See also !OCR18:22
Ash-FoxWhich was the last version of kubuntu that didn't have stack protections in libc?18:26
kubunterois anybody using kde4? i've got a problem with my arrow up, and arrow down keys. they don't work :(18:28
FoxIIIkubuntero: #kubuntu-kde418:29
kangkehillo18:29
kangkeyouyou ren zai ma18:29
regisBonsoir à tous18:43
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Guest27421Y 'a du monde ?18:45
mitsarionasbonsoir mate18:45
mitsarionas!fr | Guest2742118:45
ubottuGuest27421: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr18:45
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mitsarionasdoes anyone have a problem iwth sound and video after a suspend/resume?18:52
gibbswhat is name of linux tv18:56
dennis_pviewer or recorder?18:56
gibbsviewer18:56
dennis_ptvtime is only a viewer18:57
dennis_pTVtime18:57
llutzor kdetv18:57
Dr_willissome of the other video players I think can work as a18:58
Dr_willis'viewer' also18:58
gibbsi have hauppauge18:58
gibbscard18:58
gibbspvr15018:59
gibbsmay be recorder19:00
Dr_willisMy PVR150 works very well under Mythbuntu,19:00
gibbsthanks19:00
dennis_pah that one can be viewed without install if you know the frequency of the wanted channel19:01
dennis_phttp://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3085164.019:02
dennis_phas info to check if your tv card works out of the box19:03
jabbasigh. sometimes running on the bleeding edge of your linux distribution is a pain in the butt :(19:12
tony_Dr_willis, i have a PVR150 on kubuntu. is there a good guide that you followed?19:14
tony_i had it working on a previous install but ran into a database or something error19:14
ubunturosI installed Kubuntu to a USB disk, with my disk on the laptop also accessible. Kubuntu installed a boot loader to the laptop's disk and I cannot boot into the laptop without the USB disk. How do I boot without the USB disk19:18
ubunturos?19:18
ubunturosUSB hard disk.19:18
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solifugusOK--since ubuntu's VirtualBox packages are broken and not getting fixed, is there an other easy to use VM solution avalable?19:20
goshawksolifugus: maybe download VirtualBox from wirtualbox.org?19:21
goshawkvirtualbox.org19:21
dwidmannWell, you either need to put the /boot partition on the laptop disk, or install grub to the USB disk MBR ubunturos and simultaneously isntall something to the MBR of the laptop disk so it can be booted without the drive19:21
dwidmannsolifugus: vmware?19:21
goshawk-__-19:21
ubunturosdwidmann: what would that "something to the MBR of laptop" be?19:21
dwidmannubunturos: well, what OS's are on the laptop drive?19:22
ubunturosdwidmann: just windows19:22
ubunturosMedia center19:22
ubunturosthat came pre-installed19:22
dwidmannubunturos: you'll need the recovery disk for that solution then19:22
ubunturosdwidmann: hmm, let me find that out. Must be around19:22
dwidmannwhen it boots you need to select rescue and it'll give you a dos shell, in which you type fdisk /mbr19:24
ubunturosdwidmann: looks like DELL didn't give me a rescue disk19:24
ubunturos:(19:24
ubunturosdwidmann: does a "System Resotre" help?19:24
dwidmannprobably not19:25
ubuntuross/resotre / restore19:25
solifugusdwidmann:  I am using VMware Workstation for work-related work..  but I don't own and should not mix my own work with my work's work.. and I am not ready to fork out the money for my own license to VMware Workstation.19:25
dwidmannsolifugus: vmware server = free (as in beer)19:25
solifugusdwidmann:  and, vmware server is fine for servers but only supports one snapshot at a time and has slow desktop performance..  I need particularly the snapshot tree.19:25
solifugusvirtualbox has the full snapshot tree.. it's almost a carbon copy of VMware workstation19:26
dwidmannI'm sure it's intended to be, sounds useful19:26
solifugusgoshawk: Here's the problem with virtualbox.org's download for ubuntu--installing it says it has an unsatisfied dependency, libssl0.9.8 (which is, in fact, installed)19:27
stdinubunturos: sometimes the system restore option (from the BIOS screen) will let you get to a dos prompt, if it does that you can run the command from there19:27
ubunturosdwidmann: I have a trick. I'll boot into Kubuntu, edit the bootloader config, and make it boot Windows, default without a timer, would that work?19:27
ubunturosstdin: hmm, I need to find out that19:28
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dwidmannubunturos: with the timer disabled it will just sit there waiting for you to do something19:28
dwidmannubunturos: this might be useful: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/winxp-fixmbr-dos-fdisk-mbr-178571/19:28
ubunturosdwidmann: The only problem is that I don't have a rescue disc. I might have to try stdin's suggestion19:29
ubunturoswill be back19:30
goshawksolifugus: there are two version of virtualbox, one in repository one not19:31
goshawkwhat are you tying to install?19:32
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Guest13445hjhg19:32
aibcan I uninstall kde3 in a single command without damaging my kde4 install?19:32
dwidmannaib: I can't say that I'd recommend removing all of kde3, but if you removed kdebase and kdelibs that would probably drag everything else along with it19:33
aibwhy wouldn't you recommend it19:33
dwidmannThere are still quite the handful of apps that haven't been ported19:33
dwidmannIe: networkmanager, k3b, konversation, etc19:34
kyncaniaib: you can use debfoster to remove a package with its dependencies19:34
michael_I'm having a lot of trouble getting a wifi card to work19:34
aibis there a list of stuff that still needs to be ported?19:34
dwidmannsomewhere, I forget where it is19:34
michael_anyone familiar w/ ndiswrapper19:35
NickPrestamichael_, what about it?19:35
BallenaWhat is the difference between an 'argument' and a 'parameter' for a linux command?19:35
michael_here's my problem19:35
dwidmannhttp://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/Application_Porting_Status19:35
dwidmannprobably19:35
michael_i install the driver and confirm the isntallation with "ndiswrapper -l"19:35
michael_then run modprobe ndiswrapper19:36
michael_but my card still isn't listed under iwconfig19:36
michael_what gives?19:36
NickPrestamichael_, which card is it?19:36
solifugushow can i install a local .deb package file from the command line, forcing even though it thinks its missing a dependency?19:38
solifugusI am not seeing this in the apt-get man page..19:38
aibi installed kde4 and am using it now. my alt key has been mapped to control. so alt-b doesn't work in readline, and alt-tab don't work, for example.19:38
aibwhere can I change this setting? it's driving me nuts19:39
stdinsolifugus: you use dpkg to install .deb files19:39
stdin!deb19:39
ubottudeb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click (in Ubuntu) or click (in Kubuntu) on them to start the GDebi utility.19:39
stdinor "sudo dpkg -i file.deb"19:39
michael_it is a D-link DWL-650 card19:40
michael_does anyone know why my card isn't in iwconfig19:44
minhaajhow do i back up my ubuntu ?19:45
NickPresta!backup | minhaaj19:45
ubottuminhaaj: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning19:45
minhaajwhich one is the easiest ? i dont want to lose anything. its exactly the way i want it19:45
minhaaji am very happy with my configs19:45
NickPrestaminhaaj, I don't know what sort of situation you have. If you want to backup your settings exclusively, the HomeUserBackup article should work fine19:46
minhaaji have used home user back up19:46
minhaajit wont restore19:47
minhaajback is just fine19:47
minhaaji just need my configurations and settings and desktop settings to be saved and my themes installed19:47
minhaaji have already backed up packages by aptoncd19:47
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dwidmannaib: I would use xmodmap to fix the alt key problem19:48
aibdwidmann, i think i've narrowed it down to konsole, possibly. my alt-tab actually seems to work. i opened KDE3/Konsole and Alt-f/Alt-b are mapped to word-left and word-right as they should be, but KDE4/Konsole intercepts Alt instead of sending it to my shell19:51
aibi can't find Konsole options for this anywhere.19:51
aibi have no special settings btw. i recently deleted .kde and .kde419:53
Pollywoghow do I manually mount a CD (no not audio) without using KDE to do it?20:01
Pollywogthe old way does not work20:02
stdin"mount /media/cdrom0" does not work?20:03
Pollywogno, it doesn't20:04
Pollywogodd, I know20:04
llutzsudo mount /dev/scd0 /mnt20:04
Pollywogthat might work20:04
stdincheck your /etc/fstab entry, make sure it has the right device20:04
PollywogI don't know where the scd0 comes from it is not in fstab20:04
Pollywogbut it might work20:04
stdinscd0 is usually the 1st CD or DVD drive20:05
Pollywogmy fstab looks fine20:05
Pollywognot /dev/hdc20:05
Pollywog?20:05
stdinit should be something like "/dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec 0       0"20:05
stdinthe hdX names should all be sdX names from kernel 2.6.20 on20:06
stdinand cd/dvd drives will be scdX20:06
Pollywogk20:06
Pollywogty20:06
Pollywogmaybe I need to change my fstab then20:06
Pollywog:)20:06
llutzPollywog: " ls -l /dev/scd? "  should show at least scd020:07
Pollywogyes it does but that is not in fstab20:08
Pollywogfstab has the old hdc20:08
l815how come i have audio issues with kubuntu kde4 that dont occur with ubuntu?20:13
Pollywogllutz: ty that worked once I fixed fstab20:13
elliottin kate in intrepid, is there a way to force the program to treat parenthesis separately from other text when doing syntax hilighting? Kate in pervious kde3 versions of kubuntu classified them separetely, allowing you to give them a different color than surrounding text20:19
elliottbut it classified them as plain text in intrepid, making reading code harder for me20:19
Randunisup all?20:21
RanduniI just have a quick question, I wish to boot the kubuntu live cd and use partimage20:21
Randunidoes kubuntu have partimage available in it's repository?20:21
Randuniis there a way that I can find out?20:22
l815what's the tool for gtk apps to look proper on kubuntu?20:22
elliotthttp://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=partimage20:23
Randuniokay..thanks elliott20:23
user1how can i upgrade to the latest distro by adept ?20:23
llutzRanduni: maybe try clonezilla, partimage is ... buggy (imho)20:24
Randunithanks llutz20:24
elliottuser1: what do you want to upgrade from to?20:25
elliottthat made more sense in my head, what are you currently uning and what do you want to upgrade to?20:25
user1elliott:  i dont know. how can i check wich version i have20:26
user1elliott:  i want to upgradte to the latest version20:26
llutzuser1: lsb_release -a20:26
user17.04 feisty\20:28
user1i have 7.04 feisty. how do i upgrade to the latest. i think its 7.10 ?20:28
djdarkmancan someone recommend me a good webcame capturing program? for thaking photos?20:28
elliottthe latest is 8.0420:29
user1oh20:29
user1k20:29
elliottthe easiest way is to run adept manager, click "update", and you should see a "version upgrade" button to the right above the package list20:29
elliottyou'll have to do it twice though20:29
user1i cant see version upgrade20:30
Hondo_Kitsune8.04.1 hardy is the latest20:30
minhaaj!backup20:30
ubottuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning20:30
user1how to upgrade by command line?20:32
tictricaptitude update && aptitude upgrade20:32
llutzthat wouldn't perform a version-upgrade without changing sources20:33
lakis1982hii. i have download some rar files that are like : xxxx.part1.rar  xxx.part2.rar etc ... and they have password ... i try to open them with ark   but it ives me error..and as i have read ark cant handle with password protected rar files.... is this right ??? do u know any software  like ark that can open password protected files of type .zip    .tar    .rar    etc ???20:34
tictricok then dist-upgrade20:34
llutztictric: nope20:34
llutzlakis1982: unrar x file..rar20:34
tictricllutz: ? sorry just saw the _how to upgrade by command line20:35
llutztictric: he wants a version-upgrade feisty->hardy20:35
lakis1982it says no such file or directory20:35
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llutzlakis1982: unrar x /path/to/file..rar20:36
tictricoh, better shut my mouth then and read before I answer ...20:36
lakis1982i dont understand20:36
minhaajhttp://imagebin.ca/view/RY25tB.html20:37
llutzlakis1982: change into the directory you saved the files in. then unrar x xxx.file.rar20:37
minhaajcheck out my gnome desktop20:37
minhaajits aweeeeeesome20:37
lakis1982i did it20:37
lakis1982but dosnt do anything20:37
elliottuser1: you can upgrade by doing something like 'sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list', saving a backup, and then doing a find-and-replace to replace all instances of 'feisty' with 'hardy', then save and close20:38
elliottthen do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade20:38
minhaajif i back up my home directory would it be sufficient to get my ubuntu to work fine ? since i have backed up all packages on aptoncd ?20:39
llutzlakis1982: paste output of that command to pastebin plz20:39
llutz!pastebin | lakis198220:39
ubottulakis1982: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)20:39
jillmy kaffeine always show error when i use double click on avi file?20:41
Hondo_Kitsunejill: do you have the correct codec20:41
llutzminhaaj: no need to backup packages, just a list of them (dpkg --get-selections) and your sources.list. also a backup of /etc might be usefull20:42
Hondo_Kitsuneis it an AVI or a DiVX20:42
jillвщуыте ьфееук20:43
jill1 фтв 2 мфкшфтеы20:43
jillфдцфны20:43
Hondo_Kitsunejill: english?20:43
jillalways20:43
jilldivx and avi20:43
Hondo_Kitsuneso it is a DiVX AVI file20:44
jillalways syas that codacs are downloaded20:44
Hondo_Kitsunehmm20:44
Hondo_Kitsunecould be the file20:44
Hondo_Kitsunehave you tested other AVIs20:44
jillno20:44
jillyea20:44
jilli am20:44
jillbut20:44
jillif20:44
jillif i open it from kafeine menu20:44
jillit is works good20:44
jillwithout questions20:44
jillbut if i click on file20:45
llutz!enter| jill20:45
ubottujill: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!20:45
jilliokay20:45
Hondo_Kitsunethen there is no problem, probably just a bug. Keep updating Kaffeine using adept or synaptic and it should eventually sort itself out20:45
jhutchins_wkjill: Meanwhile try mplayer or vnc.20:46
Hondo_Kitsuneahh, jhutchins has a point, try an alternate player20:47
jillmplayer works20:47
jillbut i love kafeine20:47
Hondo_KitsuneAs i said, just keep updating it20:48
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lakis1982isnt there any program like winrar  with gui20:54
lakis1982?20:54
giuseppehi, how can I update my distro Gutsy?21:00
minhaajgiuseppe:  type apt-get install dist-upgrade21:00
minhaaj:)21:01
minhaajor apt-get install update21:01
minhaajyou want to update or upgrade ?21:01
minhaajor do the distribution update ?21:01
giuseppeupdate21:01
minhaajapt-get install update21:02
giuseppeUnable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?21:02
minhaajyou do you have adept-get open ?21:02
giuseppeyes, you are right21:03
minhaajshut it down first21:03
minhaaj:)21:03
giuseppeminhaaj: sorry, but if I upgrade, what will I upgrade? Full distro?21:03
minhaajnope21:03
minhaajjust gutsy21:03
minhaajfor full distro apt-get dist-upgrade21:04
minhaajinstall between them21:04
minhaaj:)21:04
giuseppeminhaaj: does it mean kernel??21:04
minhaajyes it updates kernel21:04
giuseppeminhaaj: well, now appears: impossible finding dist-upgrade21:05
minhaajsorry the command was sudo apt-get dist-upgrade21:05
giuseppeminhaaj: 0 updated, 0 installed, 0 removed21:06
giuseppeminhaaj: is it normal????21:06
minhaajyep21:06
minhaaj:)21:06
minhaajyou are already up to date21:06
minhaajdo you want to do hardy ?21:07
giuseppeminhaaj: yes!21:07
minhaajhmm21:07
minhaajhang on21:07
proprietarysuckshow can I burn an img file ?21:07
mkultrashey i was trying to backup my home folder so i mounted this usb drive and then copied the folder with cp -r -p * /backupdrive but it missed all the folders starting with a .21:07
tictricproprietarysucks: from k3b21:08
mkultrasshould i try copying them with dolphin or something instead you think21:08
proprietarysucksk3b doesn't find img files21:08
llutzmkultras: use "cp -a ...."21:08
giuseppeminhaaj: are you able to do it?21:09
tictricproprietarysucks: I'm not sure but give it a try and rename img to iso21:12
tictricIt's basically the same21:12
BocasecamanHi, i have a problem, my videos with AC3 sound voices are too low but the ambient sound is perfect, why?21:13
Bocasecamansorry for my english21:13
orjanhello21:17
_2what is needed to get acpi support to work on ati chips in dapper drake ?   or can someone point me in the right dirrection there?21:18
user1when i upgrade from fiesty. it ties to go to gutsy. not to hardy. how can i do it for hardy?21:19
proprietarysuckstictric: no it's not the same at all21:19
proprietarysucksin some cases it is21:19
proprietarysucksanyways I've found the solution, which is poweriso converter21:19
_2user1 i don't believe that one step upgrading from fiesty to hardy is supported21:19
tictricproprietarysucks: Sometimes it works21:19
_2sensors-detect reports     Sorry, no chips were detected.21:21
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_2E: /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature missing21:22
gizmobayI'm looking to encrypt a directory. Would truecrypt be my best option?21:23
kalorinI've got an error on reboot where it pops up a window saying "no command arguements supplied!, usage: kdesudo [ -u <runas> ] <command> KdeSudo will now exit...21:25
kalorinif I close that window everything goes away and I'm left wiht a black screen with a mouse pointer21:25
kalorinif I leave it up there, things work ok and the window stays21:25
user1when i upgrade from fiesty. it ties to go to gutsy. not to hardy. how can i do it for hardy?21:25
kalorinanyone ever seen that?21:25
kalorinuser1, not sure you can go directly21:26
kalorinmight have to do an intermediate upgrade21:26
mkultrashey you can go from dapper to hardy though21:26
mkultrashttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades#Upgrade from 6.06 LTS to 8.04 LTS21:26
mkultrasi did that procedure and it worked out well21:27
mkultrason a server21:27
jessejazza  what is the best way to format a remote hard drive for backup purposes and use on windows and ubuntu. I used gparted - but i wanted to check for bad sectors so what can i do?21:27
_2user1 change the key word fiesty to hardy in your /etc/apt/sources.list  run apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade as root   and when it break don't call us.  we have told you that one step upgrading from fiesty to hardy is not supported.21:27
mkultrasthe only thing i had a problem was java disappeared i think21:27
_2"<mkultras> hey you can go from dapper to hardy though" <<<  mkultras and it usually breaks too.21:29
_2jessejazza badblocks21:31
jessejazza_2: badblocks?21:33
_2yeah21:33
jessejazzaname of a package?21:33
_2no an app21:33
engineerrpedro por aqui?21:33
jessejazzai've just looked it up21:33
_2jessejazza short answer is use "mke2fs -jc /dev/devicenode" where ever you want an ext3 filesystem   and yes windows can access ext#  there are drivers online21:35
jessejazza_2: is that better than FAT32?21:36
_2the -c will tell mke2fs to first run badblocks on the device and then use it's output to "skip" any bad blocks it finds.21:36
_2jessejazza better ?    heh   well do you want my openion or are you asking a polling question ?21:37
_2of course it's better,  it's a real file system,   vfat is not.21:37
jessejazza-2: a balanced opinion! can't find mke2fs - which repo?21:39
_2vfat has no permissions bits uses fat=file allocation tables rather than redundant superblocks and is not a "journalizing filesystem"   vfat fragments files and requires defrag ext3 doesn't "per'se" and so forth.    repo ?   "which mke2fs"21:40
_2or "man mke2fs"21:40
* meow finally got kubuntu + vmware + ati drivers + firewall config up :o)21:40
meowthanks for all your help21:41
llutzalso ext2/3 fragments, not like vfat but it still does.21:41
meownow all i need is a good scriptable irc client. any recommendations?21:41
llutzirssi21:41
engineermirc21:41
meowi'm using mirc now, engineer, and it's eating up 10% of my cpu21:42
engineer1-2% here21:42
engineer12mb of ram21:42
meowand there are a couple of gui bugs which really annoy me21:42
_2jessejazza one thing that vfat might be better about than ext# fs     it's made for a constantly rebooting system and wont complain about not being uncleanly dismounted.21:42
_2that doesn't mean you can power off durring a disk write without errors by any means.21:43
meowllutz: anything with a graphical interface?21:43
engineerxchat21:44
llutzirc = chat= text = why gui? :)21:44
_2bx for the win21:44
Van_NistelRooyhi all21:45
Pepcok^PotLShi, is enyone using Konversation and do sb know if there's an "auto re-join when kicked" option?21:45
kalorinI don't get "kicked"21:45
psycoXD21:45
Pepcok^PotLSI know but somethimes it happens :_21:46
Pepcok^PotLSso does sb know?21:46
_2Pepcok^PotLS i'm not using konvo but why are you getting kicked out of channels ?    and better still why would you want to go back to some place that you know you are not wanted ?21:46
Pepcok^PotLSit's because somethimes we kick each other for fun :) and i'mnot joking21:47
_2i mean that's begging for a ban21:47
_2hmmm odd practice.21:47
Pepcok^PotLSno it's just channel for friends and somethimes we kick each other but it's not serious21:47
Van_NistelRooycan i emulator visual studio 6 in the wine21:47
_2"some people get their jollys in the strangest ways"21:47
Pepcok^PotLSok other question21:48
Pepcok^PotLSwhat is the best way to bring my playlist saved on winamp to Ubuntu?21:48
Pepcok^PotLSwhich program would be the best?21:49
kubunteroPepcok^PotLS: The playlist it self?21:49
_2doesn't amarok have a playlist inport function ?21:49
kubunteroJust open it. almost all programs read m3u21:49
Pepcok^PotLSyes i has, but it doesn;t open files which are in catalogs21:49
Pepcok^PotLSfor example I have in win my mp3 files in E:/Music21:50
Pepcok^PotLSand in Music I have many catalogues21:50
Pepcok^PotLSbut when I import playlist to amarok21:50
Pepcok^PotLSit reads only files from E:/Music21:51
Pepcok^PotLSnnot from E:/Music/xxx21:51
Pepcok^PotLSwhere xxx is catalogue21:51
Pepcok^PotLSso can sb help me?21:51
tom__Pepcok^PotLS: mount windows partition and drag-and-drop from dolphin to amarok21:51
tom__worked for me21:52
kubunteroWhat's a catalogue?21:52
Van_NistelRooyhelp me peoples...21:52
Pepcok^PotLSi forgot a word21:52
Van_NistelRooycan i emulator visual studio 6 in the wine21:52
Pepcok^PotLSif you have E:/Music21:52
Pepcok^PotLSMusic is catalogue21:52
kubunterohttp://appdb.winehq.org21:52
kubunteroPepcok^PotLS: And amarok does not import it? Go to Amarok settings -> Collection21:53
kubunteroand add Music21:53
kubunteroit will import all21:53
Van_NistelRooykubuntero, this message is to me21:54
orkidi don't know if this is the right channel, but i just installed kde-core and xorg on a minimal system and am looking for things that might be useful (ie. automount usb keys, keystore [ssh keys], etc)... but i'm not sure which packages i need (ie. which hal/dbus things i need, pmount, etc). is there a webpage that might have a list of interesting and useful packages21:56
orkid?21:56
orkidtx in advance21:56
keith_orkid try #kde22:04
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orkidi did, but i thought it was the wrong channel, since it's ubuntu related22:05
meowwell each package is useful and interesting in it's way22:05
compilerwriter#kubuntu is also ubuntue related orkid.22:05
meowthere are thousands of packages for ubuntu22:05
orkidhmmm. i also don't have sound :S22:06
compilerwriterorkid it is the kde branch of ubuntu22:06
compilerwriter#kde is for kde in general orkid22:06
orkidyes... so i thought people here would know more about what packages are involved22:06
bomberlinux from scratch might be helpful too "lfs"22:06
orkidi'm more curious as to what packages i would need to install for getting automount of usb drives for example, or sound22:07
bombermight point you towards the right packages22:07
compilerwriterorkid to tell you the truth most of those pacakages are already in the ubuntu base install.  I can't be much help there.  I thought you were looking for kde specific stuff.22:07
orkidalso, anyone know why aptitude pulls in way more packages than apt-get ? apt-get install firefox wants only a few while aptitude wants around 50... does aptitude pull in the recommended pakages or something?22:08
orkidwell, i did the server install... i'll have a look around packages.ubuntu.com22:08
llutzorkid: it does22:08
uwe__uuh22:08
orkidbut sometimes even the package titles make it hard to decipher what's needed22:08
llutzorkid: use aptitude -R22:08
orkidllutz: what's the way to disable this?22:08
orkidtx :)22:08
llutzset :    Aptitude::Recommends-Important "false";  in ~/.aptitude/config22:09
Pepcok^PotLSI've just instaled programm by using console, how can I open it now??22:09
llutzthat makes it permanent22:09
dave11my sound keeps defaulting to the wrong sound device, how can I lock it down to a certain device?22:09
dave11!sound22:12
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP322:12
jogaI just installed kubuntu hardy today, and noticed now when setting up a color prompt that I got a ~/.bashrc telling me to uncomment '#force_colored_prompt=yes', but it actually checks the value of '$force_color_prompt' (thus failing). /etc/skel/.bashrc seems to be correct though, why would this be?22:14
Pepcok^PotLSi've just installed programme but it's not in my "Applications", what's oter wa to open it?22:16
jogawell, I guess the .bashrc thing was fixed after I installed the updates..22:18
ksalhi22:25
ksali've got a problem with my GF 7300 card22:25
engineerexplain the problem22:26
ksali install nvidia-new drivers package for it22:26
ksaland when i restart my computer22:26
ksalit seems not to recognize card or my monitor22:26
engineersudo nvidia-xconfig22:27
ksali don't have acceleration and resolution of my screen is 640x4809 max22:27
engineerrestart X server22:27
bomberthere is also a autoconfig package for the nvidia cards too22:27
bomberthere yah go..listen to engineer22:28
ksalare you sure?22:28
ksalok22:28
y5shinhello world22:28
* bomber world22:28
bomberwoops22:28
ksal:)22:28
tonkyhi guys. i'm connected to dlink wifi router, and router is plugged to dsl modem which is connected to internet. how can i find out the ip of wifi router to access it through http and configure it?22:29
fitoriahello22:29
y5shinip of the router? like as in the admin page?22:29
fitoriaIs there Java plugin for 64bits?22:29
engineerwhat's the netmask you're using?22:29
engineerfitoria no22:29
engineer192.168.1.254 if your ip is a class C22:30
tonkyyes y5shin, it used to be 192.168.0.50, but not responding. not even after wifi router reset.22:30
engineeror 192.168.1.122:30
y5shini would go with 192.168.1.1 for dlink22:30
engineertonky check your gateway22:30
bomberor 192.168.0.122:30
engineerit should be that one22:30
tonkyengineer: 1.1 is dsl modem ip, neither 1.254 or 0.1 are responding22:30
engineerwhat's your ip22:31
tonky1.10, dhcp by dsl22:31
y5shinexit22:31
engineercheck your gateway22:31
engineerit should be that ip22:31
bomberalso shouldnt you have to configure it via a rj45 connect and not wifi?22:32
tonkybomber: if used to work for me over wifi before22:33
ksalso hi again22:33
ksalit didn't help me22:33
ksali checked xorg.conf22:33
tonkyhow do i check my gateway? route? default         192.168.1.1     0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 wlan022:34
ksaltonky: ifconfig22:34
ksal?22:34
tonkyksal: what exactly should i look for in ifconfig to be a gateway?22:34
engineerksal ping 255.255.255.255 -b22:35
ksalso i checked it and as Monitor Identifier I have  ' Configured Monitor' and as my GPU I have 'Configured Video Device22:35
engineeroops22:35
engineerthat was to tomsku22:35
ksal:)22:35
tonky:)22:35
engineerksal22:35
engineerglxinfo | grep rendering22:35
fitoriaHi22:35
engineernicaragua?22:35
fitoriaengineer: yes :)22:36
ksalengineer: it says 'yes'22:36
tonkyengineer: no reply from ping 255.255.255.255 -b22:36
engineerksal then the drivers are working22:36
engineertonky it pings my gateway here22:36
tonkylucky you :)22:36
engineeryou router22:36
ksalengineer: ok, but why I can't use correct resolution?22:36
engineermust be blocking broadcast pings22:36
ksalI only can have 640x480 and lower22:37
fitoriaHow do I find out what urls apt-get install will use for the .debs pkg downloads/22:37
fitoria?22:37
engineercat /etc/apt/sources.list22:37
engineercheck the uncommented lines22:37
ksalfitoria: or you can check it in synaptic, i suppose22:38
engineerksal are higher resolutions listed in xorg,xonf?22:38
fitoriaengineer: I know that but for example I do an apt-get install foo How do I find the urls to download the .debs?22:38
engineerfitoria it's in the file22:38
engineerthe packages are in dirs inside those urls22:39
ksalengineer: in 'Modes' i have 'nvidia-auto-select;22:39
ksalengineer: i'll try to put there something better....22:40
engineer~pastebin22:40
engineer!pastebin22:41
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)22:41
ksalengineer: you didn't understand me ;) i mean that i'll write some better resolution in xxorg.conf22:42
ksal;)22:42
engineerksal http://paste.ubuntu.com/24813/22:42
fitoriaengineer: great :)22:42
ksalthx22:42
ksali know xorg.conf a bit already22:43
ksalok, lets try it22:43
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veronica__ls22:47
WalzmynOK, my buddy tells me there is a pidgin update in the repos, but I'm not seeing it, even after a refresh, what am i doing wrong?22:47
tonky_re. so i connected wifi box directly, and got ip 169.254.6.19, and nothing ligical wasn't responding, like 1.1, or 1.0, or 0.50 etc. any other ideas on how to find my wifi box ip?22:47
ksalumm, so it doesn't work22:49
NickPresta!info pidgin | Walzmyn22:49
ubottuwalzmyn: pidgin (source: pidgin): graphical multi-protocol instant messaging client for X. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.4.1-1ubuntu2 (hardy), package size 505 kB, installed size 1856 kB22:49
Pepcok^PotLSwhich command let me uninstall programs ?22:53
Pepcok^PotLSsudo unistall xxx?22:53
Pepcok^PotLSxxx - program22:53
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ksalsudo apt-get remove xxx22:54
BallenaHow do I get the current timestamp? I want to use it in a bash script.22:54
meowBallena: date22:54
WalzmynNickPresta, I know what pidgin is. There's supposed to be an update to fix this server issue, but i'm not seeing any updates in the repo22:55
meowPepcok^PotLS: apt-get remove <package>22:55
danonpotzebuje pomocy .22:56
danonak chcem podłaczyc aparat to niby go wyszukuje ale zdjec niema co jest ?22:56
danon 22:56
danonpisze cos tam ze nierozpoznano urzadzenia22:56
NickPrestaWalzmyn, that is the latest version in the repos (http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/net/pidgin) I don't know what update your friend is talking about (is he running Ubuntu)22:56
WalzmynNickPresta, he's using xubuntu22:57
FoxIIIubottu !poland | danon22:58
ubottudanon: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl22:58
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Pepcok^PotLS#ubuntu-pl22:59
Pepcok^PotLSsry22:59
NickPrestaWalzmyn, they use the same standard repos. Get him to do: `dpkg -l | grep pidgin` see what version of pidgin he really has installed23:01
toxic_hi23:11
toxic_im totally new to kubuntu :/23:11
toxic_i just found it installed on my pc23:11
toxic_where should i start? :D23:11
toxic_i want to install eclipse ;/23:12
stuqtoxic_: sudo aptitude install eclipse should do it23:13
toxic_stuq: i need the jre first i think23:13
toxic_i have the rpm file downladed from java23:14
stuqtoxic_: if it needs it, the dependacies should come along for the ride23:14
NickPrestatoxic_, Kubuntu doesn't use RPMs. It uses DEBs (.deb)23:14
toxic_is there no chance to handle rpms?23:14
NickPrestatoxic_, you can use Adept to install Eclipse and any associated files it needs23:14
stuqtoxic_: once you start using debs, you won't really want rpm's23:15
NickPrestaanything that you could find packaged as an RPM is either available as a deb or can be found in the repos already :)23:15
toxic_ok ;)23:15
NickPresta!repos23:15
ubottuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories23:15
stuqbut there are utilities to convert them that sort of work23:15
toxic_now if i type "eclipse" this happens:23:16
toxic_Gtk Warning  cannot open displays23:16
toxic_ KDE-Hilfezentrum23:17
toxic_Kubuntu Documents23:17
toxic_Kubuntu Release Notes23:17
toxic_About Kubuntu23:17
toxic_Kubuntu Desktop Guide23:17
toxic_Ubuntu Packaging Guide23:17
NickPrestatoxic_, stop pasting23:17
toxic_Ubuntu Server Guide23:17
toxic_Willkommen bei KDE23:17
toxic_KDE-Benutzerhandbuch23:17
NickPrestaif you have large amounts of text you want to shre with us, you can use a pastebin23:17
toxic_Programm-Handbücher23:17
toxic_Handbücher zu Miniprogrammen (Applets)23:17
toxic_Kontrollzentrum-Module23:17
toxic_lol23:17
toxic_what happend23:17
toxic_sorry23:17
toxic_NickPresta: i didnt want to do this :D23:17
toxic_i was just copying one line and it copied more.. i duno why :D23:18
toxic_im sorry23:18
NickPrestaits okay. so did eclipse install?23:18
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toxic_i dunno  he did a lot of things ;)23:19
geraldo_que talco23:19
agahi after long long time windows using i instaled kubuntu 6.06 my first ever linux success install i have many questions now i hope i can ask here freely23:19
NickPrestawell, how did you install eclipse? through Konsole?23:19
NickPresta!es | geraldo_23:19
ubottugeraldo_: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.23:19
NickPrestaaga, we're here to help23:20
toxic_i really like you guys :D23:20
agais there any need to upgrade kubuntu 6.06 to version 8?23:20
toxic_i think this time i will REALLY switch to linux (kubuntu) ..23:20
ksalcan anyone help me?23:21
NickPrestaaga, I think it is possible, although I'm not 100% sure. Out of curiosity, why didn't you install 8.04 from the getgo?23:21
ksalaga: lepiej to zrob :)23:21
agadid not go to official site untill to late23:21
agai was on linux .org and 6.6 was there ^^23:21
ksalhaha, really? on your place i would upgrade to 823:22
toxic_what does Gtk-Warning:  cannot open display mean?23:22
agai have no clue how i fix internet i was left right and boom it worked and i have no clue what i did lol23:23
ksalhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24826/ - here is my xorg.conf . can someone check what is wrong and why i can't change resolution to higher than 640x480 ?23:23
toxic_ksal: i have a same problem like you ;) i'd like to switch to 16xx*1xxx23:24
vltHello. I have a UPS connected to a machine running Kubuntu 6.06 LTS. `lsusb` lists it as "051d:0002 APC Back-UPS Pro 500/1000/1500". What nut driver do I need to access that device?23:24
ksaldamn23:24
ksalon gutsy there was no problem23:24
ksalhardy sux23:24
agalets say i want to install firefox for linux kubuntu what type of file i should chuse? it always ask me with what program i want to open file im bit confused23:26
toxic_NickPresta: i found the problem: 1) i cant run eclipse when im root ;)23:28
toxic_2) i previousivly installed a bad version of eclipse23:28
toxic_i uninstalled it and reinstalled it23:28
toxic_sudo aptitude remove ... sudo aptitude install23:28
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agai be back later i must read FAQ cant bother ppl if i did not read any info :)23:29
toxic_now if i type eclipse, a new window opens (looks like java)   it says something like no virtual machine available23:29
toxic_when isntalling eclipse, there were A LOT OF 40423:29
ksalgeez =='23:31
ksaldoes anybody know how can i  set my monitor?23:32
ksali mean23:32
ksalany tool to choose monitor that i'm using?23:32
Nece228after i did updates to my kubuntu hardy23:51
Nece228xorg dont started until i changed from nvidia to nv23:52
Nece228it starts now but i cant do anythink with resolution23:52
Nece228screens and resolution shows me error23:52
Nece228what i have to do?23:53
ksaldamn23:54

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