[00:00] <ImperialJester> Can someone please tell me how to set shortkeys?
[00:00] <_dennister> anyone have torrentflux installed on hardy? from repositories?...having lots of probs at the very end of this
[00:00] <KRF> derdui, or maybe i get you wrong, whats "normal text"?
[00:00] <KRF> you mean ascii code?
[00:01] <ImperialJester> Derudi, the output of python "print 0xFF" is 255.
[00:02] <derdui> i have scanned my network with wireshark, and i wanna read the output.... that ist in hex...
[00:02] <derdui> now to python, wich proggy should i use?
[00:05] <ImperialJester> I haven't a clue.
[00:06] <derdui> !python
[00:09] <ImperialJester> Hrm. Konqueror doesn't want to do anything java-related too well.
[00:09] <ImperialJester> Can someone help me?
[00:09] <KRF> http://love-python.blogspot.com/2008/05/convert-hext-to-ascii-string-in-python.html @ derdui
[00:09] <KRF> ImperialJester, true
[00:10] <ImperialJester> Then, there isn't a whole lot of anything you can do to help?
[00:10] <ign0ramus> Hey all.  Does anyone know how to check a tickbox in a browser (Firefox) without the aid of a mouse?
[00:10] <derdui> thanks KRF
[00:10] <Odd-rationale> ign0ramus: tab and space
[00:10] <ImperialJester> Tabbing over, and hitting enter?
[00:11] <Odd-rationale> tab to navigate, space to check.
[00:11] <ImperialJester> Ooohh... You beat me again.
[00:11] <_dennister> anyone available to help with torrentflux on a lamp stack? downloaded from repositories? (unlike the other working isntallation i have)
[00:11] <Odd-rationale> :P
[00:11] <ImperialJester> Yes, it is space.
[00:11] <ImperialJester> *facepalms self*
[00:11] <ign0ramus> thanks odd-rationale
[00:11] <ign0ramus> gg imperialjester
[00:11] <Odd-rationale> ign0ramus: np
[00:12] <ImperialJester> Google guy? Sorry, don't know what that means.
[00:16] <ImperialJester> How do I switch my main browser from Konqueror to FireFox? (please :D)
[00:18] <hydrogen> it's in systemsettings
[00:18] <ImperialJester> Thanks.
[00:20] <Red_Wraith> Hello all.
[00:22] <Red_Wraith> Hey Action_Parsnip. Can you believe some jerk registered my ShadowKnight alias?
[00:26] <Red_Wraith> Does anyone know where system:/media is in the root filesystem?
[00:27] <sebastian> can i get help here for freespire aswell?
[00:28] <jlaine> as it says, it's in /media
[00:28] <ImperialJester> I'm sure you could, if they don't have their own channel...
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[00:30] <sebastian> ok well i have a wireless usb and when i installed freespire it detected it and i could use it, but when i restarted it dont detect it.
[00:34] <MachinTrucChose> Hi
[00:34] <martijn81> am i the onlyone with a not working firefox in 8.04?
[00:34] <MachinTrucChose> can someone tell me the difference in KSysGuard between "User %" and "System %" for CPU usage?
[00:34] <martijn81> are there any reported bugs for this?
[00:34] <MachinTrucChose> I'm using 80% user, but 10% system...
[00:35] <MachinTrucChose> martijn81: none whatsoever. It installed from the update and been working fine since.
[00:35] <Red_Wraith> test
[00:35] <Red_Wraith> Hello all.
[00:36] <martijn81> MachinTrucChose: wierd, i even removed the temps files in ~/.mozilla
[00:36] <Odd-rationale> MachinTrucChose: iirc, user is process started by you, system are processes sstarted by root...
[00:36] <MachinTrucChose> Odd-rationale: got it, thanks. I was worried I was being limited to a certain amount of CPU percentage.
[00:37] <snake_> hola
[00:37] <snake_> alguien me puede ayudar, sou nuevo?
[00:38] <Red_Wraith> !es
[00:38] <Odd-rationale> !es | snake_
[00:38] <snake_> ok thanks
[00:39] <dersimonurdur> SLM TÜRKCE BİLEN WARMI
[00:39] <dersimonurdur> DEMEKKI YOK :)
[00:40] <Odd-rationale> ImperialJester: hey!
[00:40] <Red_Wraith> Hey ActionParsnip. Can you believe the nick ShadowKnight was registered a couple of days ago?
[00:40] <ImperialJester> Um... Hey?
[00:40] <Odd-rationale> ImperialJester: what was that for?
[00:40] <ImperialJester> Just trying things...
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> shadownight is cool
[00:41] <Red_Wraith> I know. But it was registered. While I was using it, no less!
[00:41]  * Red_Wraith grumble grumble.
[00:43] <Red_Wraith> Anyhow, does anyone know how to get to system:/media in the root filesystem. I can't find it!
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> Red_Wraith: how do you mean?
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> Red_Wraith: surly cd /media works
[00:48] <Red_Wraith> Well, in KDE you have a system places menu, and one of them is Storage Media. That takes you to someplace that in the Konqueror input bar it says system:/media and lists stuff like the cdrom drive and the windows partition. It is not the same as /dev.
[00:48] <pucko-> Red_Wraith, it's not in the filesystem. it's an abstraction
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> Red_Wraith: yes thats the /meda folder with cd drives etc
[00:49] <R2LM> What's the equivalent of the Gnome program "Software Sources" in Kubuntu?
[00:49] <Red_Wraith> pucko-: what do you mean by "abstraction" and ActionParsnip: No it's not. That's my problem.
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> R2LM: adept sources?
[00:51] <pucko-> Red_Wraith, what I mean is the there is no such place as system:/media on the filesystem.
[00:51] <Red_Wraith> Right, so how does it get it?
[00:51] <pucko-> Red_Wraith, kde just makes it up as a sensible abstraction for you to view your drives and such.
[00:51] <Red_Wraith> Oh. Ok.
[00:52] <pucko-> Red_Wraith, it checks mounted partition and stuff and looks for usb-drives and all that and then it lists what it thinks is apropriate...
[00:52] <pucko-> like magic
[00:52] <Red_Wraith> I was just wondering since that's really the only way I've managed to access my windows partition so far. Not that I use windows anymore, but I've got important files there.
[00:52] <d1os_mio> p.ip.ip.i[#kubuntu] p.ip.ip.i
[00:52] <Red_Wraith> *cough* games *cough*
[00:53] <pucko-> Red_Wraith, you can still access them from the console. it's just a little more of a hassle.. but it's all there of course.
[00:53] <ubuntu__> Hum. I seem to have totally n00bed up my system. Can somebody help me with a reinstall where I do not lose all my files?
[00:53] <Red_Wraith> Yeah, I know. I was just wondering about that particular feature. Thanks for clarifying.
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> !ntfs-3g | Red_Wraith
[00:54] <Red_Wraith> Yeah, I know. Thanks though.
[00:54] <R2LM> ActionParsnip: Is that the name in the menus somewhere? I have Kubuntu-desktop installed on top of my Ubuntu installation, so I'm not sure where to find "Adept Sources" in my menus.
[00:55] <ubuntu__> Right now I booted from a live dvd and cannot open my existing partitions (hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 999)
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> R2LM: you could edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:56] <R2LM> ActionParsnip: True, I've done that before, but I like to use a GUI when I can. :) So is "Adept Sources" the name of the program in the menus?
[01:00] <ubuntu__> how do I mount my existing sda1 and sda3 partitions on the live dvd? I need to do a proper backup before I reinstall
[01:01] <Guest96932> does anyone know what the error, the adp database could not be opened! this may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some simliar problem. etc.
[01:02] <ubuntu__> I obviously cannot edit /etc/fstab, because it's on the dvd and not writable
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_: write a script and put it on usb, or online
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu__: or on lan
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> oh
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> Guest96932: is that the exact error?
[01:24] <jill> why my desktop under 800x600 where is the file of this options i need insert to it 1024x768
[01:24] <jill> ?
[01:27] <word> in the repos why is firefox 3.0~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu3 the latest version? isn't that firefox 3 beta 5?
[01:28] <word> that's like...months old...
[01:30] <Walzmyn> word, my version of FF identifies itself as v3.0
[01:30] <stdin> word: enable hardy-updates
[01:42] <jill> tell me please where is the file of resolution configurations.. my desktop is 800x600 but i need 1024x768
[01:42] <CZ-18> jill: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:42] <CZ-18> jill: you need root permissions to edit it
[01:43] <CZ-18> jill: you should be able to do that from kcontrol, though
[01:43] <Walzmyn> jill look in system settings
[01:43] <CZ-18> jill: under Peripherals -> Monitor &Display
[01:44] <jill> there is no any high resolution because i dont have a driver yet.. but i know vesa can use 1024x768
[01:45] <Walzmyn> jill what kinda card do you have?
[01:45] <jill> buil-in nvidia 6100
[01:46] <jill> i need z-org nvidia drv
[01:46] <jill> i know
[01:46] <jill> but i want turn 1024 now
[01:46] <Walzmyn> jill look under kmenu>>system>>hardware drivers management
[01:46] <jill> can i do this?
[01:46] <jill> okay
[01:46] <Walzmyn> getting the driver though ubuntu is the best way to keep it uptodate
[01:47] <jill> ))))))))))))))
[01:47] <jill> i am so stupid
[01:47] <Walzmyn> not at all
[01:47] <jill> it not for a girls.. i meant system)
[01:47] <jill> it is*
[01:47] <Walzmyn> jill, I know this, because I had to uninstall the nvidia driver i went to all the effort to compile so i could install the ubuntu one :)
[01:48] <jill> listen, can i use two adept processes in one time?
[01:48] <Walzmyn> no
[01:49] <Walzmyn> the database can only be locked by one aplication at a time
[01:50] <jill> okay.. can i pause my update download, activate my driver and start update to resume
[01:50] <jill> ?
[01:51] <nicolasvenegas> hola
[01:51] <nicolasvenegas> alguien me ayuda a actualiozar kubuntu
[01:52] <nicolasvenegas> hola
[01:52] <nicolasvenegas> a todos
[01:52] <jill> and if my download will complete is there 100% warranty multimedia files like avi or mpeg warks in kaffeine?
[01:52] <nicolasvenegas> alguien me ayuda a actualizar kubuntu
[01:54] <CZ-18> jill: depends, what packages are you downloading? and there can bever be 100% warranty, you never know if some weird crazy error happens (like lightening strike on computer)
[01:54] <jill> okay)) 70% warranty?)))
[01:54] <jill> 75?)
[01:56] <CZ-18> jill: what packages are you downloading
[01:57] <CZ-18> jill: If you have the dodecs, the files should work. Personally, I don't prefer using kaffeine, so I can't speak too much about it
[01:58] <jill> after install of the system adept ask me in systray  - "download updates?" and i say "yea, do this".. 250Mbytes are downloading now))
[01:58] <jill> like office core or kdelibs
[01:59] <jill> and kde libs data.. there are too many packs
[02:00] <dennis_p> smplayer is awesome it plays the subtitles that kaffeine could not and looks similar
[02:01] <CZ-18> jill: you've have to download codecs, some don't come by default
[02:02] <jill> give me any ways to do this
[02:03] <jill> and i cant view russian symbols in amarok... but in old kde versions it was...
[02:04] <CZ-18> jill:
[02:04] <CZ-18>  apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse
[02:04] <CZ-18>  gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg libxine1-ffmpeg libdvdread3
[02:04] <CZ-18> all on one line
[02:04] <dennis_p> i thought kaffeine activates automatic codec download when you try to open a unfree file
[02:05] <jill> okay... it is so simlpe.. cant imagine it)))
[02:05] <Walzmyn> dennis_p, so did i, but it didn't work for me either
[02:06] <dennis_p> what you missed some old intel codec or something ancient?
[02:09] <thomas__> Are there problems with the U.S. update servers?
[02:11] <thult> so which one is the better? is it just user-related question concerning desktop manager.. ubuntu/kubuntu ?
[02:12] <Jaws> mean about reliability
[02:13] <dennis_p> ubuntu is better because more time has been spend on it
[02:13] <dennis_p> but i prefer kubuntu
[02:14] <dennis_p> there are no reliabilty issues with kubuntu just some thing don work as well as is possible on KDE
[02:14] <CZ-18> personally, i find KDE far easier to use
[02:15] <NickPresta> dennis_p, I would say things work just as well, just differently (and perhaps not as verbose)
[02:15] <CZ-18> a lot of the custom ubuntu stuff is focused more on GNOME
[02:15] <CZ-18> but in general, KDE is easier
[02:15] <CZ-18> at least for me
[02:16] <Jaws> more support for kde methinks
[02:16] <Jaws> guess afterall this all is just a matter of taste..
[02:17] <Jaws> have found kde more stable imo.
[02:17] <Jaws> using 8.04
[02:18] <dennis_p> thatś nice to hear
[02:19] <dennis_p> the ś is kubuntu´s fault of course :-)
[02:19] <CostaRicanQuaker> hello, last time i went to bed i left the terminal
[02:19] <CostaRicanQuaker> upgrading to hardy from dapper
[02:19] <CostaRicanQuaker> it was taking over 4 hours
[02:20] <Jaws> terminal is quite relaxing thing sometime :)
[02:20] <CostaRicanQuaker> how do i check if its complete?
[02:21] <intelikey> pidof apt-get
[02:21] <Jaws> apt-get install everything
[02:21] <Jaws> :D
[02:21] <CostaRicanQuaker> intelikey
[02:21] <CostaRicanQuaker> that did nothing
[02:22] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker ?   what do you mean ?
[02:22] <CostaRicanQuaker> how do i know if it finished installing all the packages that it was upgrafding to
[02:22] <dennis_p> is that terminal window still running or has it been quit?
[02:22] <intelikey> either it returns the process identifier of the named process or it returns empty string.    the empty string means that apt-get is not running.
[02:23] <sdlnxgk> anyone having  issues with Hardy Haron install???
[02:23] <Jaws> and what was the last messages of that terminal ?
[02:23] <CostaRicanQuaker> sebastian@sebastian:~$ pido apt-get
[02:23] <CostaRicanQuaker> bash: pido: command not found
[02:23] <CostaRicanQuaker> sebastian@sebastian:~$ pidof apt-get
[02:23] <CostaRicanQuaker> sebastian@sebastian:~$
[02:23] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker oh.     sudo apt-get install -f
[02:23] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker yes.  that meant that apt was not running.   ^
[02:23] <Jaws> yes sudo. not bido :)
[02:23] <CostaRicanQuaker> sebastian@sebastian:~$ sudo-apt get install -f
[02:23] <CostaRicanQuaker> bash: sudo-apt: command not found
[02:23] <CostaRicanQuaker> sebastian@sebastian:~$
[02:24] <Jaws> without - sign  between sudo and apt ....
[02:24] <CostaRicanQuaker> i'm on xfce right now btw
[02:24] <DarkriftX> dude
[02:24] <intelikey> pebcak
[02:24] <CostaRicanQuaker> pl
[02:24] <DarkriftX> read whats being said
[02:24] <DarkriftX> type carefully
[02:24] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker    sudo apt-get install -f
[02:24] <CostaRicanQuaker> Reading package lists... Done
[02:24] <CostaRicanQuaker> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:24] <CostaRicanQuaker> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1068 not upgraded.
[02:24] <CostaRicanQuaker> what does that mean?
[02:24] <sdlnxgk> how can I kill xserver ????  I have did it in the past but now just sit with a black screen what is different with Hardy Haron
[02:24] <Jaws> what seems to be ok.
[02:24] <intelikey> means it's done.
[02:25] <Jaws> nothing to upgrade i guess
[02:25] <CostaRicanQuaker> so how do i check that i'm on ubuntu hardy?
[02:25] <Jaws> nor.. 1068 updates to install but not been installed..
[02:25] <intelikey> one more test.   lsb_release -a
[02:25] <CostaRicanQuaker> No LSB modules are available.
[02:25] <CostaRicanQuaker> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[02:25] <CostaRicanQuaker> Description:    Ubuntu 6.06.2 LTS
[02:25] <CostaRicanQuaker> Release:        6.06
[02:25] <CostaRicanQuaker> Codename:       dapper
[02:25] <CostaRicanQuaker> sebastian@sebastian:~$
[02:25] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok that's a nuisance
[02:26] <CostaRicanQuaker> i was watching that upgrade for over four hours
[02:26] <CostaRicanQuaker> does that mean i have to do the whole thing all over?
[02:26] <Jaws> dual booting ?
[02:26] <intelikey> pastebin     cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:27] <CostaRicanQuaker> intelikey? what do i do
[02:27] <intelikey> pastebin     cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:27] <Jaws> yes. check the problem from logs..
[02:27] <intelikey> !pastebin
[02:27] <CostaRicanQuaker> so i type cat /etc/apt/sources.list and enter it and then paste what shows up on patebin?
[02:28] <intelikey> yep
[02:28] <Jaws> you can see the the error whether it exists or not.
[02:28] <CostaRicanQuaker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24586/
[02:29] <intelikey> pebcak
[02:29] <intelikey> pastebin  >>>   cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:29] <sdlnxgk> anyone using hardy version with NVIDIA drivers??
[02:29] <CostaRicanQuaker> intelikey
[02:30] <CostaRicanQuaker> i'm not getting it
[02:30] <TheKiNG> Hello.
[02:30] <intelikey> cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:30] <intelikey> and pastebin the results
[02:30] <Jaws> nope. don't care about the display drivers. just using the good & reliable & compatible.
[02:30] <Daisuke_Ido> CostaRicanQuaker: no, no you are not getting it.
[02:31] <CostaRicanQuaker> what do i do
[02:31] <Jaws> change platform ?
[02:31] <TheKiNG> I have a S3 Trio3D video card, and I'm trying to install Kubuntu, but KDE doesn't show up, when doing startx, it does nothing, any solutions?
[02:31] <sdlnxgk> Jaws, wish I could do that but i'm running SLI mode and need the Nvidia drivers for gaming :(
[02:32] <CostaRicanQuaker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24587/
[02:32] <CostaRicanQuaker> there
[02:32] <sdlnxgk> has been easy before so i'm sure something changed in the upgrade.. I guess i'll give envy a try sine it's in the package list
[02:32] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker type this in the terminal       " cat /etc/apt/sources.list "    # without the quotes
[02:32] <CostaRicanQuaker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24587/
[02:32] <intelikey> ok that's better.
[02:32] <CostaRicanQuaker> now what do i do
[02:32] <TheKiNG> ...
[02:32] <CostaRicanQuaker> to finish upgrading
[02:33] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker   sudo apt-get update
[02:33] <TheKiNG> intelikey, can you help me?
[02:33] <CostaRicanQuaker> hmmm, this is going to take up from where it left, right?
[02:33] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker yeah
[02:34] <intelikey> TheKiNG kwin --version
[02:34] <Jaws> the answers are found on the internet usually ;)
[02:34] <CostaRicanQuaker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24588/ _
[02:34] <TheKiNG> intelikey: Qt: 3
[02:34] <TheKiNG> oops
[02:34] <CostaRicanQuaker> ?
[02:35] <intelikey> Jaws please stop.  it's too busy in here for that right now.
[02:35] <TheKiNG> intelikey: Qt: 3.3.8b, KDE: 3.5.9, KWin: 3.0
[02:35] <CostaRicanQuaker> so what now intelikey?
[02:35] <intelikey> TheKiNG   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -plow
[02:35] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker hold.
[02:36] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:37] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok
[02:37] <CostaRicanQuaker> just did that
[02:37] <CostaRicanQuaker> but i had already done this
[02:37] <CostaRicanQuaker> and i already waited for ti to end for over four hours
[02:37] <CostaRicanQuaker> before i went to bed
[02:38] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker from breezy to hardy is not supported,  so you have to go breezy > dapper (where you are now) > hardy
[02:38] <CostaRicanQuaker> no no
[02:38] <CostaRicanQuaker> actionpasnip had helped me
[02:38] <CostaRicanQuaker> let me show you
[02:38] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker lsb_release already show'd me.
[02:39] <TheKiNG> intelikey: didnt work.
[02:39] <TheKiNG> i reconfigured everything
[02:39] <TheKiNG> not a damn thing.
[02:39] <TheKiNG> sad part is kubuntu 6.06 LTS works
[02:39] <CostaRicanQuaker> so how do i get hardy?
[02:39] <intelikey> TheKiNG still startx does nothing ?   what error does it yeld ?
[02:39] <CostaRicanQuaker> all of that upgrading couldnt have been in vain
[02:40] <[Relic]> what is the command to list all installed packages to a single file so I can do a quick up date to the new HD?
[02:40] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker you are on your way now.    assuming you ran the apt-get dist-upgrade command   and it's fetching.
[02:40] <TheKiNG> Fatal Server Error: AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0 intelikey
[02:40] <intelikey> [Relic] dpkg -l > single_file
[02:40] <CostaRicanQuaker> wait
[02:40] <sps> where to download the updated 8.04.1? is it available yet?
[02:40] <CostaRicanQuaker> here http://adinugro.blogspot.com/2008/05/upgrade-dapper-to-hardy.html
[02:40] <CostaRicanQuaker> i had done that already
[02:41] <intelikey> TheKiNG yuch.
[02:41] <[Relic]> Thanks  :)
[02:41] <TheKiNG> so... how to fix?
[02:41] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker is the apt-get dist-upgrade   fetching packages or not ?
[02:41] <intelikey> TheKiNG is that on the live CD or the installed system ?
[02:42] <TheKiNG> live CD
[02:42] <CostaRicanQuaker> help what dfoes this mean http://paste.ubuntu.com/24590/
[02:42] <CostaRicanQuaker> what do i do? "ok"?
[02:42] <TheKiNG> intelikey
[02:43] <intelikey> TheKiNG try    sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf     change driver "s3" to driver "vesa"  in the display section.   save and exit,  startx
[02:43] <TheKiNG> k.
[02:43] <Jaws> yes. the manuals..
[02:43] <intelikey> !patience | CostaRicanQuaker
[02:44] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker yes   ok
[02:44] <TheKiNG> ..there is no display section
[02:44] <TheKiNG> all i see is
[02:45] <TheKiNG> Screen, ServerLayout, Monitor, Device, InputDevice intelikey
[02:45] <intelikey> TheKiNG umm device   that describes your vidio card
[02:45] <TheKiNG> k.
[02:46] <intelikey> should say something like   device   \n  display0
[02:46] <intelikey> \n being a new line
[02:46] <TheKiNG> thanks very much
[02:47] <intelikey> working ?
[02:47] <Jaws> i was a coder oldschoold style. still love code.
[02:47] <TheKiNG> intelikey, i got a X in the middle of the screen and a white backround
[02:48] <TheKiNG> nothing yet
[02:48] <briggzer> hey guys....
[02:48] <intelikey> Jaws cool.    if you visit  #kubuntu-offtopic     or  #ubuntu-offtopic      they might like to talk to you about that in there
[02:48] <CostaRicanQuaker> intelikey http://paste.ubuntu.com/24591/
[02:48] <sps> where to download the updated 8.04.1? is it available yet? anyone?
[02:49] <intelikey> sps 8.04.1 ???
[02:49] <briggzer> any new news or fixes yet on sound card problems with nVidia onboard alsa drivers and 8.04?
[02:49] <intelikey> !release | sps
[02:49] <TheKiNG> intelikey, what i just told you, is it supposed to do that?
[02:50] <sps> intelikey: 8.04.1 is supposed to be released jul/03
[02:50] <CostaRicanQuaker> is it done now? do i hve to do something else? i just noticed i can/t  open the windows partition despite having mounted it hours ago and it showing up
[02:51] <intelikey> TheKiNG ctrl+alt+backspace    kill the xserver and try this now.    sudo kdm
[02:51] <TheKiNG> k
[02:51] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker no.
[02:51] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker you have a issue.  i'm working on it.
[02:52] <sps> intelikey: check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseSchedule
[02:52] <TheKiNG> ubuntu@ubuntu~$ sudo kdm
[02:52] <TheKiNG> ubuntu@ubuntu~$ _
[02:52] <TheKiNG> thats what happens
[02:52] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker   sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/xkb-data* ;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -f
[02:52] <TheKiNG> should i try kde?
[02:52] <TheKiNG> intelikey
[02:52] <intelikey> TheKiNG no.  does that not also start x ?
[02:53] <TheKiNG> it doesnt start X.
[02:53] <TheKiNG> just does that
[02:53] <intelikey> it should do as you described plus x should start
[02:53] <TheKiNG> hold on
[02:53] <intelikey> TheKiNG ok do this then    sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop ;sudo kdm
[02:54] <TheKiNG> k. gimme a min
[02:54] <intelikey> TheKiNG alt+left_arrow (movement keys)  about three times or until you cycle all the way vack to where you are
[02:54] <intelikey> back
[02:54] <TheKiNG> k.
[02:55] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker is that command working?   or can you tell ?
[02:56] <intelikey> TheKiNG and before i go any further, maybe i should make sure that the system will support what we are trying to do.   how much ram do you have  ?
[02:56] <CostaRicanQuaker> intelikey, here http://paste.ubuntu.com/24592/
[02:56] <TheKiNG> 384 MB.
[02:57] <intelikey> TheKiNG ok. that's plenty
[02:57] <TheKiNG> yup
[02:58] <tuxwulf> ... all this persistence stuff... none of it really WORKS...
[02:58] <tuxwulf> The USB installations, made so-called persistent. None of it works.
[02:58] <tuxwulf> BIG pity...
[02:59] <shadshodao> y a t il des francais ??
[02:59] <dennis_p> #kubuntu-fr
[02:59] <shadshodao> arigato gosaimasu
[03:00] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker   sudo apt-get remove xkb*
[03:01] <CostaRicanQuaker> intelikey  http://paste.ubuntu.com/24593/
[03:01] <TheKiNG> IT WORKDED@
[03:03] <Guest80351> holis
[03:03] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker   sudo apt-get remove xkb-dat xkb-data-legacy xkbevd xkbsel
[03:07] <intelikey> !doesntwork | tuxwulf
[03:08] <tuxwulf> Right. Persistence does not work.
[03:08] <CostaRicanQuaker> intelikey http://paste.ubuntu.com/24594/
[03:09] <tuxwulf> Kubuntu on USB: no persistence despite whatever detailed documented procedure I followed.
[03:09] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker ues the up arrow then the right arrow.  at  sudo apt-get remove xkb-dat  add the missing "a" and hit enter
[03:10] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker   sudo apt-get remove xkb-data xkb-data-legacy xkbevd xkbsel
[03:10] <intelikey> like that       ^
[03:10] <intelikey> and yes i typo'd it.  sorry.
[03:11] <CostaRicanQuaker> intelikey http://paste.ubuntu.com/24595/
[03:13] <intelikey> oh for the love of pete. CostaRicanQuaker i'm tired of playing with that thing.     sudo dpkg --configure -a --force-all
[03:13]  * CostaRicanQuaker copies and pastes
[03:15] <CostaRicanQuaker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24597/
[03:16] <tuxwulf> I'm not angry, just a little frustrated and disappointed. I will try again from the beginning. If I have to, will get down to making my own initrd.gz
[03:17] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker ok  now,    sudo apt-get install -f     # and lest see if it worked
[03:19] <intelikey> tuxwulf ubuntu uses initramfs.img    (name may vary, but it's a ramfs anyway)
[03:20] <tuxwulf> intelikey: It kind of depends which procedure one follows
[03:21] <intelikey> ubuntu uses ^^^
[03:21] <tuxwulf> You'd see what I mean when yyou follow them
[03:21] <intelikey> tuxwulf not you have to use
[03:21] <asobi> need help, flash broken since upgrade to firefox 3
[03:22] <intelikey> !flashff3
[03:22] <intelikey> !flash
[03:22] <intelikey> !ff3
[03:22] <intelikey> i thought there was an infonode...
[03:22]  * intelikey lost it.
[03:23] <word> stdin: sorry for the slow reply..i do have hardy-updates enabled...and firefox 'says' it's 3.0 but the package version doesn't...so i don't know if when it was in beta it said it was 3.0 too :-/
[03:23] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker what's it doing now ?
[03:24] <stdin> word: "apt-cache policy firefox" shows "3.0+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1"
[03:24] <CostaRicanQuaker> removing stuff
[03:24] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker ok.   when it's done give me a beep
[03:25] <darwin> what's a broken pipe?
[03:26] <word> stdin: so does mine o.O then why does apt-cache show firefox show b5? o.O
[03:26] <intelikey> darwin means data was sent somewhere that doesn't exist.
[03:27] <darwin> \w intelikey Thanks,
[03:27] <stdin> word: apt-cache show can show more that one version of a package if there are multiple version in different "pockets" or repos
[03:28] <stdin> make sure you look through all the output, for me the ~b5 version is at the bottom of the output
[03:28] <CostaRicanQuaker> intelikey i alsoneed your help, i had mounted the partition bt now if i go to system and click on the windows paritition it says it cant be mounted or something
[03:29] <word> stdin: oh! lol didn't realize it showed more than one, my terminal is at just the right size to only show one ;p
[03:29] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker better to stay out of your other systems while you are upgrading.
[03:30] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok
[03:30] <stdin> word: that's why I always pipe it through less
[03:30] <CostaRicanQuaker> im on xubuntu currently
[03:30] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker unless you like living on the bleeding edge of danger   then why not run something like fsck on the root fs while upgrading....   :)))
[03:30] <word> stdin: good idea ;p
[03:31] <intelikey> and if that's geek to you.  don't worry about it.
[03:31] <CostaRicanQuaker> fsck?
[03:31] <intelikey> file system check
[03:31] <ojanx> alooww all
[03:31] <CostaRicanQuaker> how?
[03:31] <ojanx> any cant help me to install my modem internal in my laptop
[03:31] <intelikey> !modem | ojanx
[03:32] <Jaws> what kind of modem ?
[03:32] <Jaws> k56 :D
[03:32] <Jaws> or something else i guess.
[03:32] <ojanx> yes ubottu
[03:33] <intelikey> !bot | ojanx
[03:33] <CostaRicanQuaker> intelikey how do i do that?
[03:34] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker that what ?    fsck ?   don't   not while upgrading.
[03:34] <Jaws> RTFM
[03:34] <intelikey> Jaws we don't tell people things like that in here.   try to be nice.
[03:34] <CostaRicanQuaker> intelikey, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24603/
[03:35] <stdin> one of our guidelines: "When helping, be helpful" ;)
[03:35] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker no.
[03:38] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker i assume it's still going ?
[03:41] <CostaRicanQuaker> intelikey yes
[03:42] <[Relic]> wheee!  all 136734 files up to date!   :)
[03:42] <DarkriftX> anyone know why when i open a link from any program it opens a:a new firefox window and b: 2 tabs with the link i clicked on open
[03:42] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker is it removing everything or is it installing some too ?
[03:42] <DarkriftX> im thinking i setup my default browser wrong or soemthing
[03:42] <DarkriftX> happens in xchat and kmail
[03:42] <[Relic]> now is there an easy way to transfer all my settings from the old install to the new one which will get all the proper flags and hidden files?
[03:43] <intelikey> hut oh.   CostaRicanQuaker   just exited...  that may leave him in the dark.   (console only)   ...
[03:43]  * intelikey shouts "DON'T CLOSE THE WINDOW!"  but in vain
[03:44] <intelikey> [Relic] tar can.  if you are talking about home dir stuff
[03:45] <djspider> que onda todos
[03:45] <[Relic]> intelikey: haven't used tar from command line  :)
[03:45] <djspider> ¬¬
[03:46] <djspider> spanish
[03:46] <mr---t-> !es
[03:47] <intelikey> [Relic]   cd 'old_home/..' ;tar -czf somefile.tgz 'old_home' ;cd 'new_home/..' tar -xzf /path/to/somefile.tgz
[03:47] <intelikey> [Relic] translate the names and path.
[03:49] <intelikey> could even....    tar -C 'old_home/..' -cf - | tar -C 'new_home/..' -xf -
[03:49] <[Relic]> intelikey: needs root?
[03:49] <intelikey> first would.  second shouldn't
[03:49] <intelikey> [Relic] are the user accounts the same ?
[03:49] <intelikey> if the $UID is the same the second wont need root
[03:50] <[Relic]> yep
[03:50] <CostaRicanQuaker> intelikey
[03:50] <CostaRicanQuaker> it all froze
[03:50] <CostaRicanQuaker> then the first blue screen was there
[03:50] <CostaRicanQuaker> so i tried rebooting
[03:50] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker yuch.    and ?
[03:50] <CostaRicanQuaker> and it started on the tty1 screen sked me for my login and password and then prompt
[03:50] <CostaRicanQuaker> not knowing what to i rebooted in windows
[03:50] <CostaRicanQuaker> what do i do?
[03:51] <CostaRicanQuaker> how do i load the gui_
[03:51] <darwin> startx will usually load the gui
[03:51] <CostaRicanQuaker> what would the command be?
[03:52] <CostaRicanQuaker> sudo startx ?
[03:52] <intelikey> in that login     sudo apt-get dist-upgrade    # and let it finish.     if it doesn't error out.   you can then,   sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[03:52] <darwin> don't need the sudo
[03:52] <CostaRicanQuaker> wait....
[03:52] <intelikey> i'm thinking you don't have x now.   but try what i said  ^   it should work for you.
[03:52] <CostaRicanQuaker> this didn't erase my *buntus did it_
[03:53] <CostaRicanQuaker> intelikey: what?
[03:53] <intelikey> not the base system.  no.   the desktop envs probably.     and NO you do not "sudo startx"
[03:53] <intelikey> write down the commands   ^
[03:53] <CostaRicanQuaker> so i get xubuntu desktop and then xubuntu desktop again?
[03:53] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok
[03:53] <intelikey> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:53] <intelikey> and
[03:54] <intelikey> apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[03:54] <intelikey> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[03:54] <intelikey> sorry.
[03:54] <intelikey> might add -f to that last one even.
[03:54] <intelikey> sudo apt-get install -f xubuntu-desktop
[03:54] <intelikey> for safty sake.
[03:55] <intelikey> but the first has to complete without error,   that's what hugh you up the first round.
[03:55] <intelikey> hung
[03:55] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker so these two lines you got them ?
[03:56] <intelikey> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:56] <intelikey> sudo apt-get install -f xubuntu-desktop
[03:56]  * intelikey thinks people should remember how much trouble it is to upgrade and only upgrade when "needed"
[03:57] <CostaRicanQuaker> yes but wait
[03:57] <intelikey> ok
[03:57] <CostaRicanQuaker> kubuntu first?
[03:57] <intelikey> doesn't matter
[03:57] <intelikey> any order
[03:57] <CostaRicanQuaker> both though
[03:57] <intelikey> if you want
[03:57] <intelikey> but first make sure the upgrade completes without error
[03:58] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok
[03:58] <CostaRicanQuaker> brb
[03:58] <intelikey> we hope.
[03:58] <darwin> intelikey or anyone, could you give me a hand with something, in the process of installing and uninstalling kde4 I've messed up my init or something I don't boot to x, and x doesn't have shutdown it has logout
[03:59] <intelikey> darwin sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[03:59] <darwin> and I appologize if us noobs are getting on your nerves tonight.
[04:00] <intelikey> darwin i'm noobish too
[04:00] <darwin> ok... so a reboot should now get me the kdm at startup?
[04:00] <intelikey> no.
[04:00] <intelikey> don't reboot for something like that
[04:01] <intelikey> are you inside of x now ?
[04:01] <darwin> yes
[04:01] <darwin> CNRL ALT Backspace?
[04:01] <intelikey> close everything except one terminal and issue,
[04:01] <intelikey> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[04:02] <darwin> ok
[04:02] <darwin> see ya.
[04:02] <intelikey> k
[04:02] <Guest69700> hola
[04:02] <intelikey> !es | Guest69700
[04:02] <intelikey> err i mean howdy
[04:03] <Guest69700> hi
[04:03] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok it said
[04:03] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker database locked ?
[04:03] <CostaRicanQuaker> kpkg was interrupted must manually run dpkg--configure -a to conrrect problem
[04:03] <intelikey> yeah
[04:04] <CostaRicanQuaker> what the heck's goingon
[04:04] <intelikey> so    sudo  dpkg--configure -a    ;and then try the other two commands.
[04:04] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok
[04:04] <CostaRicanQuaker> brb
[04:04] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker ok
[04:04] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker wait
[04:05] <intelikey> i didn't put a space in there.
[04:05] <intelikey> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:05] <intelikey>     ^   that
[04:05] <intelikey> i doubt he got that....
[04:05]  * intelikey thinks about not being here when he gets back.
[04:06] <intelikey> stdin you want to finish this?   :)
[04:07]  * intelikey knows why he's not answering  :)
[04:09] <mr---t-> intelikey: whats :p mean?
[04:09] <mr---t-> nevermind
[04:09] <intelikey> mr---t- it's another "face" code   sticks tongue out at you.
[04:10] <mr---t-> my client auto translates face codes so i knew after I hit enter thanx
[04:10] <intelikey> mr---t- lol ok.
[04:11] <intelikey> my client displays raw face code
[04:11] <intelikey> i see :* as : plus *
[04:11] <mr---t-> your on a console tho
[04:11] <intelikey> yep
[04:12] <intelikey> are faces upside down when you back code them ?  d:
[04:12] <mr---t-> I 'm not that literate yet, still a gui cripple
[04:12] <mr---t-> d:
[04:12] <mr---t-> no
[04:12] <intelikey> hmmm ok.
[04:12] <darwin> hi again
[04:12] <intelikey> darwin
[04:14] <darwin> everything's cool it worked,  just came to hang out
[04:14] <intelikey> hIlf what happened to the other nick  se7en  ?
[04:14] <intelikey> darwin kewl
[04:15] <intelikey> heh we use kde everything starts with k not c :)))    kool
[04:15] <darwin> LOL
[04:16] <darwin> that's honestly the only thing about kde I hate
[04:16] <hIlf> intelikey: still in use just confuses me a bit in irssi if you stay in multible # ... have to write ups sorry for pasting in the wrong # all the time :)
[04:16] <intelikey> ((:
[04:17] <intelikey> hIlf i C++ , err no i don't C++ but i stand under you.
[04:17] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok it said thats not a valid command
[04:18] <CostaRicanQuaker> sudo config-- etc
[04:18] <CostaRicanQuaker> what do i do
[04:18] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker wait
 i didn't put a space in there.
 sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:18] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok so its
[04:18] <hIlf> intelikey: ??
[04:18] <intelikey> you jumped out too quick to catch that.   sorry.
[04:19] <intelikey> hIlf just saying i "under stand"
[04:19] <CostaRicanQuaker> sudo space dpkg space --configure space -a
[04:19] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok i will be right back
[04:19] <hIlf> :)
[04:21] <intelikey> i hate that the guy has to keep rebooting to talk to us.  i should introduce him to console networking but the learning curve is already to steep, just trying to enter a single line command...     he'll catch on though.
[04:22] <intelikey> understand is a strange word in it's own right.
[04:23] <intelikey> if you tell someone that you "understand" them you are litterly saying that they are over your head....
[04:23] <intelikey> kind of oximoronic i think
[04:24] <tweak> hey...i'm kinda new to kubuntu...but i was wonderin if ne1 could help me with somethin
[04:24] <intelikey> an knee one might.
[04:24] <intelikey> !ask
[04:24] <tweak> i'm tryin to use ifconfig and iwconfig and it tells me that its not installed, but when i try to install, it tells me that its already installed
[04:25]  * mr---t- scratches head
[04:25] <intelikey> which ifconfig ;which iwconfig
[04:25] <intelikey> tweak   ^   command line
[04:25] <tweak> yeah
[04:26] <intelikey> yeah enter that
[04:26] <intelikey> which ifconfig ;which iwconfig
[04:26] <intelikey> and it says ????
[04:26] <tweak> he program 'ifconfig' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[04:26] <tweak> sudo apt-get install net-tools
[04:26] <tweak> -su: ifconfig: command not found
[04:26] <tweak> tweak@tweak-laptop:~$
[04:27] <tweak> then it tells me that the newest version is already installed when i try to install it
[04:27] <intelikey> which doesn't tell you all that.   please enter the command and lets see the output
[04:28] <intelikey> which ifconfig ;which iwconfig   <<<< that command
[04:29] <tweak> when i type that in all it does is go to another prompt
[04:29] <tweak> lol
[04:29] <intelikey> ok
[04:29] <intelikey> thats what i'm asking.
[04:29] <nowshining> add a space after the ";" part before you put the iwconfig
[04:29] <intelikey> nowshining not needed
[04:29] <intelikey> tweak try sudo /usr/sbin/ifconfig --version
[04:31] <intelikey> tweak looks like a PATH issue  you don't have  /usr/sbin in your path.    confirm with the command; echo $PATH | grep '/usr/sbin'
[04:31] <tweak> it tells me that the command not found
[04:31] <intelikey> tweak hold that last thought
[04:31] <tweak> kk
[04:31] <intelikey> sudo apt-get install -f
[04:32] <tweak> tweak@tweak-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install -f
[04:32] <tweak> Reading package lists... Done
[04:32] <tweak> Building dependency tree
[04:32] <tweak> Reading state information... Done
[04:32] <tweak> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:32] <tweak> tweak@tweak-laptop:~$
[04:33] <intelikey> sudo apt-get install --force-reinstall net-tools
[04:33] <intelikey> i think force will work there...
[04:33] <tweak> tweak@tweak-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install --force-reinstall net-tools
[04:33] <tweak> E: Sense force is not understood, try true or false.
[04:33] <tweak> tweak@tweak-laptop:~$
[04:33] <intelikey> may just be vanella --reinstall
[04:34] <intelikey> yeah try dropping the "force-
[04:34] <tweak> says force isnt understood
[04:35] <tweak> damn
[04:35] <tweak> hold up
[04:35] <intelikey> i said drop the force- part of it
[04:35] <tweak> i know...sorry
[04:35] <intelikey> so somewhere between the two..... is you  :)
[04:36] <tweak> couldnt find package reinstall
[04:36] <intelikey>                     ^   reread
[04:36] <tweak> leave it to me to have somethin this ate up, lol
[04:37] <intelikey> sudo apt-get install --reinstall net-tools  <<< that is this with out the force- >>> sudo apt-get install --force-reinstall net-tools
[04:37] <intelikey> see i didn't take out the  -- not the reinstall  just the "force-" that was between them
[04:38] <intelikey> not/nor
[04:38] <intelikey> see
[04:38] <tweak> i accidentally left out one of the hyphens...ty for being patient with me
[04:38] <tweak> lol
[04:38] <intelikey> so do you now have ifconfig ?
[04:39] <intelikey> and iwconfig ?
[04:39] <tweak> nope
[04:39] <tweak> same shit as before
[04:40] <tweak> it acted like it was d/l'in some info...but its still not working
[04:40] <intelikey> pastebin the output of    dpkg -L net-tools
[04:40] <hIlf> !paste
[04:41] <hIlf> !grub
[04:42] <intelikey> i can't use grub it's too weak
[04:42] <tweak> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24613/
[04:43] <intelikey> tweak ls /usr/sbin/route -l
[04:44] <kumamoto> how is it that kubuntu can screw up kdm so bad?
[04:44] <intelikey> tweak also     ls /bin/netstat -sh
[04:44] <intelikey> kumamoto idk  i use gdm when i use a dm
[04:45] <nowshining> kumamoto: I too use GDM like intelikey ;)
[04:45] <intelikey> kumamoto what in particular are you having trouble with ?
[04:45] <punzada> hey any suggestions on being able to tweak or overall make gtk apps in kde4 look a little 'nicer,' maybe adjust font sizes and such?
[04:45] <tweak> the first is no file or directory ...the second says 120k /bin/netstat
[04:45] <intelikey> tweak ls -ld /usr/sbin
[04:46] <tweak> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 12288 2008-07-02 22:38 /usr/sbin
[04:47] <intelikey> tweak file a bug on the package net-tools%VERSION
[04:47] <tweak> kk..lol, should i try to just reinstall kubuntu in the meantime
[04:48] <tweak> a different v. ?
[04:48] <intelikey> you can see the version in several ways  one of which would be   ls /var/cache/apt/pacakages/net-tools*
[04:48] <intelikey> that will show the one you just installed
[04:49] <kumamoto> after install kdmthemes and trying to switch over from the ugly oem it doesn't
[04:49] <intelikey> and any other versions that you may have at one time installed if they are still in the cache    and yes i sujest another version in the mean time
[04:49] <intelikey> it doesn't ?
[04:49] <kumamoto> tried to edit /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc but nothing seem to work at all
[04:50] <tweak> lol...well, this is my first time using nething other than windows...and its saying that the file doesnt exist either
[04:50] <kumamoto> Usetheme=/usr/share/apps/kde/kdm/themes/ nada
[04:50]  * mr---t- wonders if it's net_tools
[04:50] <sneilan_> has anyone ever gotten kftpgrabber's remote file editing to work?
[04:50] <intelikey> !bug | tweak
[04:50] <intelikey> tweak ls is saying that ?
[04:50] <kumamoto> one would think that kubuntu would have had this all polished out as it part of their distro
[04:50] <mr---t-> me too
[04:51] <intelikey> tweak "ls" is saying that ?
[04:51] <tweak> yeah
[04:51] <mr---t-> for me also
[04:51] <intelikey> tweak sudo apt-get clean #(this removes all cached packages, if you need to keep any for some reason back them up first)
[04:52] <intelikey> tweak and them up arrow to that --reinstall that you had so much fun with and run it again.
[04:52] <mr---t-> intelikey: Ive been typing in the commands you have given along with tweak and got the smae messages
[04:52] <mr---t-> same
[04:53] <intelikey> it "could" be a hosed dl and the partial package blocking the new dl.    ^   tweak  this is to correct that if that's the case.
[04:53]  * mr---t- internet is fine tho
[04:53] <intelikey> mr---t- you are telling me there is no ifconfig command on your system ?
[04:54] <intelikey> mr---t- and that /usr/sbin/ifconfig is listed in the file list for net-tools ?
[04:54] <mr---t-> no im saying that some of the commands weren't found
[04:54] <intelikey> what commands ?
[04:54] <tweak> tweak@tweak-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install --reinstall net-tools
[04:54] <tweak> Reading package lists... Done
[04:54] <tweak> Building dependency tree
[04:54] <tweak> Reading state information... Done
[04:54] <tweak> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 reinstalled, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:54] <tweak> Need to get 195kB of archives.
[04:54] <tweak> After unpacking 0B of additional di
[04:54] <mr---t-> ls /var/cache/apt/pacakages/net-tools*
[04:55] <intelikey> elaborate mr---t-
[04:55] <intelikey> ah typo
[04:55] <intelikey> too many a's in there
[04:55] <intelikey>                    ^
[04:55] <mr---t-> yes
[04:55] <tweak> lol...i actuall did catch on to that
[04:55] <tweak> and typed it correctly, lol
[04:56] <intelikey> tweak and it installed ifconfig this time ?
[04:56] <mr---t-> I copied and pasted
[04:56] <tweak> nope
[04:56] <tweak> lol
[04:56] <intelikey> tweak ok it's a bug
[04:56] <intelikey> !bug | tweak
[04:56] <tweak> i've noticed on the app that comes with it to d/l different programs...that when i downloaded programs they weren't showin up...so i guess i got a shotty d/l
[04:57] <intelikey> that package / bug should be marked critical
[04:57] <mr---t-> andrew@andrew-desktop:~$ ls /var/cache/apt/packages/net-tools*ls: cannot access /var/cache/apt/packages/net-tools*: No such file or directoryandrew@andrew-desktop:~$
[04:57] <tweak> kk...and now where else could i find the version that i have
[04:57] <intelikey> tweak wait ?    show the rest of that apt-get output
[04:57] <intelikey> i want to see what else it says
[04:58] <tweak> tweak@tweak-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install net-tools
[04:58] <tweak> Reading package lists... Done
[04:58] <tweak> Building dependency tree
[04:58] <tweak> Reading state information... Done
[04:58] <tweak> net-tools is already the newest version.
[04:58] <tweak> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:58] <tweak> tweak@tweak-laptop:~$
[04:58] <intelikey> mr---t- that's normal.  you didn't just "reinstall" it
[04:58] <mr---t-> o
[04:58] <tweak> or the reinstall
[04:59] <intelikey> tweak no the one where it said one to reinstall  ^
[04:59] <intelikey> err i mean yes.  the other one.
[04:59] <intelikey> the reinstall one
[04:59] <tweak> tweak@tweak-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install --reinstall net-tools
[04:59] <tweak> Reading package lists... Done
[04:59] <tweak> Building dependency tree
[04:59] <tweak> Reading state information... Done
[04:59] <tweak> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 reinstalled, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:59] <tweak> Need to get 0B/195kB of archives.
[04:59] <tweak> After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
[04:59] <tweak> Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
[04:59] <intelikey> after the   <tweak> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 reinstalled, 0 to remove and 0 not...
[04:59] <intelikey> and you said ?
[05:00] <tweak> lol...yes
[05:00] <intelikey> then it said ?
[05:00] <intelikey> come on,   the rest of the output ?
[05:00] <tweak> lol...the version
[05:00] <tweak> After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
[05:00] <intelikey> it's what it says from there on down that i want to see
[05:00] <tweak> Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
[05:00] <tweak> (Reading database ... 103638 files and directories currently installed.)
[05:00] <tweak> Preparing to replace net-tools 1.60-17ubuntu1 (using .../net-tools_1.60-17ubuntu1_amd64.deb) ...
[05:00] <tweak> Unpacking replacement net-tools ...
[05:00] <tweak> Setting up net-tools (1.60-17ubuntu1) ...
[05:00] <tweak> tweak@tweak-laptop:~$
[05:00] <intelikey> good thank you.
[05:01] <intelikey> yes if you still don't have ifconfig in /usr/sbin/  then it's a bug   and should be marked "critical"
[05:01] <intelikey> on that exact package.
[05:01] <intelikey> net-tools_1.60-17ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[05:02] <tweak> kk
[05:02] <intelikey> also try this, to see if someone may have found it before you, and maybe it's fixed....    sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:02]  * mr---t- o cache
[05:03] <intelikey> mr---t- one run of "sudo apt-get clean"   and everything in the package cache dir is purged from the system.   cron may be setup to run that every few days...
[05:04] <mr---t-> yeah I finally got that
[05:05] <intelikey> mr---t- it's not at all uncommon for the package cache dir to be empty, aside from "lock" which is a blank file and partial/ which is the dir used while dl'ing the packages in parts.
[05:05] <mr---t-> thats what i get for pasting commands I don't have that cache
[05:05] <minhaaj> ok i guess i like gnome more than kde
[05:05] <minhaaj> just installed ubuntu and still no crash
[05:05] <minhaaj> and its fast!
[05:05] <mr---t-> but im learning
[05:06] <intelikey> minhaaj good to hear it.   glad you found something that works for you.   anything else ?
[05:06] <minhaaj> heh nope
[05:06] <intelikey> k
[05:07] <mr---t-> my cache would have been cleared long ago...
[05:07] <intelikey> probably yes.
[05:07] <intelikey> mine never is.
[05:07] <minhaaj> !alsa
[05:07] <mr---t-> doesn't that eat a lot of space
[05:08] <intelikey> umm about 4.2g now.
[05:08] <intelikey> for me
[05:08] <intelikey> but it is used as a repo for other boxen
[05:08] <mr---t-> boxen?
[05:09] <intelikey> yeah :)
[05:09] <intelikey> that's geek for "computers"
[05:09] <mr---t-> not boxes
[05:09] <intelikey> i see you don't speek geek
[05:09] <mr---t-> no but i'm willing to learn
[05:10] <intelikey> i think there's a website   geekspeak.org   or something  with lots of common deff's
[05:11] <intelikey> google knows where it is
[05:11] <mr---t-> I've heard box before just not the plural
[05:11] <intelikey> :)
[05:11] <mr---t-> I have two boxen myself
[05:11] <intelikey> kool
[05:12] <intelikey> <+7 boxen
[05:12] <mr---t-> ONly one with linux at the moment tho
[05:12] <intelikey> <+7 pinguin boxen
[05:12] <intelikey> :)
[05:12] <mr---t-> I had to load xp pro for my training on my play box
[05:13] <intelikey> that's so sad.   :'(
[05:13] <mr---t-> I was running freespire
[05:13] <mr---t-> yes very sad
[05:14] <mr---t-> ;)
[05:14] <intelikey> tweak did you try the update ?  &&  did it help ?   ||  did you file the bug ?
[05:15] <intelikey> i read that the first computer bug was found back in the 1920's i think it was....
[05:17] <mr---t-> netsplit
[05:18] <intelikey> google said 1947  but i don't think that was actually the first.   iirc there was a logic circut intrupted by a bug  back in the 1920's in an at&t terminal    i don't recall all the info
[05:18] <intelikey> yeah it's a netsplit kinda thang, goin' on
[05:19] <intelikey> anyway that's where the idea of calling bad code a bug came from....
[05:20] <intelikey> heh that's almost worth reading ... http://www.jamesshuggins.com/h/tek1/first_computer_bug.htm
[05:21] <mr---t-> a real "bug" right?
[05:21] <intelikey> yeah
[05:21] <intelikey> insect
[05:21] <mr---t-> weeeee
[05:22] <intelikey> :)
[05:22] <mr---t-> whats the crying face
[05:22] <perome> can i mount an entire disk image in linux?
[05:22] <intelikey> ?
[05:22] <intelikey> perome you can only mount file systems   as far as i know
[05:23] <perome> can i mount an entire disk image in linux? i made a dd if=/dev/sdc image............ and now i want to mount it locally
[05:23] <intelikey> perome if you can read the offsets you can mount an fs from a disk image tho
[05:23] <perome> how 2 guess the offsets?
[05:24] <intelikey> perome not guess,  read.   fdisk -l image
[05:24] <perome> lol
[05:24] <mr---t->  :'(  wow the face translator works backwards too
[05:24] <perome> wow that is leet.................. intelikey,,,,,,,,,,
[05:24] <intelikey> mr---t- lol
[05:25] <intelikey> perome me ?  L337    not!
[05:25] <perome> Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[05:25] <perome> dellimage.img1               1           5       40131   de  Dell Utility
[05:25] <perome> dellimage.img2   *           6        1540    12329887+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[05:25] <perome> very nice
[05:25] <perome> how how 2 calculate the offsets?
[05:26] <intelikey> google is more equiped to answer that than i am
[05:26] <perome> k thanks very much though intelikey
[05:26] <intelikey> it has to do with the sector size and the count tho
[05:26] <intelikey> perome welcome
[05:26] <perome> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 0 cylinders
[05:26] <perome> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[05:27] <intelikey> so 512 is the size and the count for img1 is 5 - 40131
[05:27] <intelikey> if i read it correctly.    but google should have examples.
[05:29] <omega-xi> Is this Kubuntu's support channel?
[05:29] <intelikey> i've never actually done that, i just understand the basic mechanics of it.
[05:29] <intelikey> omega-xi yes it is
[05:29] <intelikey> !ask
[05:30] <intelikey> !patience
[05:30] <intelikey> and welcome omega-xi
[05:30] <intelikey> !welcome
[05:30] <omega-xi> Thanks ^^'
[05:31] <intelikey> tweeK wb
[05:33] <[Relic]> Hello :)
[05:34] <omega-xi> ok, I had a fairly barebones ubuntu install (I had to install over PXE) so I then installed the kubuntu-desktop package, however my /home is mounted to a partition from a previous install of another distribution.  When I log in from kdm I get a small dialog that says "Call to Inusertemp failed" any ideas on what I may have done wrong ^^;
[05:35] <intelikey> own your home
[05:35] <intelikey> sudo chown $USER -R $HOME
[05:35] <intelikey> then try it.
[05:36] <omega-xi> Thanks ^_^
[05:37] <omega-xi> I really should have thought of that :$
[05:39] <intelikey> ownership / permissions / paths / then look for bugs...   concise trouble shooting format
[05:40] <omega-xi> I checked permissions and forgot all about ownership
[05:40] <intelikey> bugs in that context includes misconfigured through rc files as well
[05:40] <apparle> I installed kubuntu remix, why doesn't it have amarok,kaffiene,k3b
[05:40] <intelikey> kind of a roll your own bug theory
[05:41] <intelikey> apparle i have no clue.  i din't mix it.   you can install them though
[05:42] <intelikey> omega-xi then you started at step 2 in that formula and ended with step 5 "check on irc"
[05:42] <apparle> intelikey: I mean to say I installed Kubuntu 8.04 KDE4 version
[05:42] <intelikey> oh.
[05:42] <intelikey> !kde4 | apparle ask in the other channel
[05:43] <intelikey> they might have a better answer for you ^
[05:43] <omega-xi> intelikey: True, sometimes it is just quicker to ask folks with more experience though, google wasn't being too helpfull either
[05:44] <intelikey> omega-xi heh yeah.    i always start with step 5 and work my way back anway   :))
[05:45] <intelikey> problem is.  90% of my questions in here go unanswered until i answer them....   ;/
[05:46] <intelikey> at one time i was bating a thousand on that, but i've asked some really hair brained Q's lately and it's brought my avarage down
[05:46] <mr---t->  /me but does your hat still fit?
[05:46] <intelikey> /me checks...
[05:46] <intelikey> :)
[05:47] <mr---t->  :-)
[05:47] <intelikey> idk.  i don't ware a hat...
[05:47] <mr---t-> is ware geek for wear?
[05:47] <intelikey> if you are asking if pride has swallowed me up completly       no.  but it does have a tight hold
[05:48] <intelikey> no it's intelikey'ish
[05:48] <mr---t-> lol
[05:48] <intelikey> did i mention that i didn't finish school cause i couldn't spell my name
[05:49] <omega-xi> it seems a little more laid back in here than I've seen in some support channels, which is good ^+^
[05:49] <mr---t-> I rode the special bus...
[05:49]  * intelikey sat by mr---t- on the short bus...
[05:50] <mr---t-> omega-xi:  no it's just late
[05:50] <intelikey> omega-xi when it's not busy  it's usually pretty lax,   but when it does get busy, and it does at times.   then we try to be professional violenteers
[05:50] <minhaaj> how do you install .bin files ?
[05:50] <minhaaj> is there a package installer like dkpg ?
[05:50] <intelikey> minhaaj bash file.bin
[05:51] <minhaaj> in console ?
[05:51] <intelikey> yeah
[05:51] <intelikey> konsole probably
[05:51] <minhaaj> cd .desktop before ?
[05:52] <minhaaj> how do you change directories ?
[05:52] <intelikey> minhaaj do you know what a linux console is ?   or was that a referance to the terminal emulator "konsole" ?       and doesn't matter.   relative path is fine.
[05:52] <intelikey> cd
[05:52] <minhaaj> heh
[05:52] <minhaaj> i KNOW what linux konsole is sir
[05:52] <minhaaj> ok then it won't work without it
[05:52] <minhaaj> do i have to use sudo ?
[05:52] <intelikey> ok.  well   konsole != console
[05:52] <minhaaj> i know
[05:52] <intelikey> probably if it's a system wide install
[05:52] <minhaaj> this command won't run
[05:53] <intelikey> ues tab completion
[05:53] <intelikey> !tab
[05:53] <minhaaj> won't work
[05:53] <minhaaj> file is on desktop
[05:53] <minhaaj> but it won't detect it
[05:53] <minhaaj> shall i make it executable ?
[05:53] <intelikey> minhaaj yes it will.  case sensitive.
[05:54] <intelikey> minhaaj   bash Desktop/blah.bin
[05:54] <minhaaj> ok let me try
[05:54] <intelikey> or as you asked ^ up there     cd Desktop
[05:54] <minhaaj> GoogleEarthLinux
[05:55] <minhaaj> no such file
[05:55] <intelikey> .bin ?
[05:55] <intelikey> tab completion....
[05:55] <minhaaj> ok done
[05:55] <minhaaj> thanks
[05:55] <intelikey> :)
[05:55] <intelikey> welcome
[05:57] <minhaaj> i shouldnt have installed bin
[05:57] <intelikey> !googleearth
[05:57] <minhaaj> i think google earth could update it self by sudo apt-get update
[05:57] <minhaaj> wouldnt that have worked ?
[05:57] <intelikey> !Medibuntu
[05:57] <minhaaj> its installed
[05:58] <minhaaj> :)
[05:58] <intelikey> minhaaj just answering your other Q    ^
[05:58] <minhaaj> which one ?
 i think google earth could update it self by sudo apt-get update  <minhaaj> wouldnt that have worked ?
[05:59] <minhaaj> ahh
[05:59] <minhaaj> ok :) i have no idea if it would have
[05:59] <minhaaj> but its good i learned how to run .bin files
[05:59] <intelikey> it is in the repos  if you enable the medibuntu repo
[05:59] <minhaaj> :)
[05:59] <minhaaj> yea but its the old version
[05:59] <minhaaj> i had to update it
[05:59] <intelikey> well the the short answer to your Q there  is no.
[06:00] <intelikey> anything else ?
[06:01] <dsmith_> hello, where can I get a clean rebuild of sources.list?
[06:01] <minhaaj> yp:)
[06:01] <minhaaj> intelikey:  one thing more
[06:03] <mr---t-> yp:)
[06:03] <intelikey> if "CostaRicanQuaker"  comes back in.  here's his problem as i know it.   he has dapper installed, is in the process of upgrading to hardy, last seen working from a console with "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop"   check his progress and help him if you can.  he is completly green and can't fresh/clean install   so he needs help.
[06:03] <intelikey> dsmith_ what version ?
[06:03] <intelikey> hardy ?
[06:03] <dsmith_> 7.10
[06:04] <intelikey> gutsy
[06:04] <dsmith_> trying to upgrade to 8.04 and its tossing an error
[06:04] <dsmith_> yea
[06:05] <dsmith_> ailed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release  Unable to find expected entry
[06:05] <intelikey> dsmith_ http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d5ae0c833
[06:05] <dsmith_> wow talk about cut down
[06:05] <dsmith_> lol
[06:05] <intelikey> no need in wasting space...
[06:06] <dsmith_> true
[06:06] <dsmith_> its working now
[06:06] <dsmith_> thanks
[06:06] <dsmith_> I could not find anything online...
[06:06] <intelikey> you might leave off backports    it sometimes cause odd things
[06:06] <dsmith_> thats what I had enabled
[06:07] <dsmith_> oops let me edit that
[06:07] <intelikey> but it sometimes breaks upgrades.  so ...
[06:07] <intelikey> depending on what you have installed from backports actually.
[06:07] <Fleck> hey, can't descide - 32bit or 64bit kubuntu ;) anyone?
[06:08] <Fleck> ok never mind ;) reading FAQ...
[06:08] <intelikey> Fleck 32 is still more supported  64 is getting better though.   if you are a developer  definitely 64  else  32 might be safer if you are kinda noobish
[06:08] <Fleck> hmm
[06:09] <dsmith_> <--- still noobish
[06:09] <dsmith_> :P
[06:09] <Fleck> :P
[06:09] <intelikey> <--<| complete newb
[06:09] <dsmith_> lies..
[06:09] <intelikey> does too
[06:09] <Fleck> i use linux for about 6 years, i know how to code etc... :P
[06:09] <matthew_> n00bs use linux now?
[06:09] <matthew_> o.0
[06:10] <intelikey> Fleck 64
[06:10] <dsmith_> didn't know that?
[06:10] <matthew_> lol
[06:11] <Fleck> intelikey ok, macromedia flash still no 64bit version? have to use plugin wrapper?
[06:11] <intelikey> Fleck or ia32libs ?
[06:11] <Fleck> yep
[06:11] <intelikey> they are dooing a lot with that now days
[06:11] <Fleck> ok
[06:12] <intelikey> dooing  heh
[06:12] <dsmith_> downloading from MIT servers seem quicker
[06:13] <intelikey> Fleck why don't you spend some time in here helping the real n''bs  we could use experanced folks.
[06:13] <Fleck> dunno
[06:13] <Fleck> don't have much time to talk...
[06:13] <Fleck> :(
[06:13] <intelikey> understand
[06:14]  * tom__ finally manageed to install vmware server but it won't boot
[06:14] <tom__> when i start a virtual machine, i get the blank screen and then it stops, before it even starts the POST
[06:14] <intelikey> see tom is one step out of my reach ^   i have never played with vmware
[06:14] <tom__> any ideas ?
[06:15] <tom__> using kubuntu 8.04 with latest updates
[06:15] <Fleck> tom__ modules missing?
[06:16] <tom__> like what? where can i find info about that?
[06:16] <dsmith_> thx intelikey, upgrading now
[06:16] <intelikey> dsmith_ welcome.
[06:16] <dsmith_> vmware is rock solid
[06:17] <dsmith_> did you run the compiler?
[06:17] <dsmith_> from the shell script?
[06:17] <tom__> i've downloaded the .tar.gz, ran install, updated with any-any-116 and then configured
[06:17] <Fleck> intelikey hardy or KDE4 Remix? :)
[06:17] <dsmith_> hmmmmmmmm
[06:18] <intelikey> dsmith_ btw i generated that with a command "sed 's/dapper/gutsy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebin "  # pastebin being a script i wrote that put in on the web for you.
[06:18] <tom__> (with any-any-117 wouldn't compile)
[06:18] <dsmith_> intelikey: thats just too l33t... :)
[06:18] <intelikey> Fleck most people like kde4 but find it "incomplete"  i is missing some things that arent developed yet.
[06:18] <dsmith_> kde4 seems ok, but I agree 'incomplete'
[06:19] <intelikey> Fleck i'm a stability oriented kind   i'd say hardy
[06:19] <Fleck> ok can i install kde3 normaly on KDE4 remix ?
[06:19] <tom__> intelikey: probably what's "incomplete" are things there are in windows and missing from kde4 :P
[06:19] <Fleck> ok
[06:19] <intelikey> yes
[06:19] <TurkSat> where is the process manager in kubuntu?
[06:19] <dsmith_> ksysguard
[06:19] <Fleck> TurkSat  CTRL + ESC
[06:20] <TurkSat> thanks
[06:20] <dsmith_> well that too :P
[06:20] <intelikey> tom__ no.  part of the apps that people are used to in kde3* have not yet been coded for kde4 so they are "missing" in kde4
[06:20] <tom__> ah
[06:20] <Fleck> intelikey and KDE4 on hardy is not a problem afaik
[06:20] <intelikey> Fleck correct
[06:20] <intelikey> !kde4
[06:20] <Fleck> ok :)
[06:20] <dsmith_> I just show of kde4
[06:20] <tom__> so any ideas about what i should do with vmware server?
[06:21] <dsmith_> *off
[06:21] <Fleck> tom__ try to run vmware in konsole and see output
[06:21] <ghost_> i have a problem: my kicker has vanished from kdeinit
[06:21] <dsmith_> tom__: I dont know... I never had one ounce of problems with it, I have run every OS imaginable on it
[06:21] <Fleck> ghost_ ALT + F2
[06:21] <ghost_> can somebody help me?
[06:21] <ghost_> i know
[06:21] <Fleck> ALT + F1 shows Kmenu
[06:22] <ghost_> but then i only have my kicker back for the session .. when i restart its gone again
[06:22] <intelikey> tom__ is there a channel here for that ?   #vmware  ?      if no one in here can answer you adaquitly ask in there or even in  ##linux     sometimes you get good help there.
[06:22] <Fleck> ghost_ ohh it's set to autohide? :)
[06:22] <ghost_> no
[06:22] <dsmith_> vmware is active
[06:22] <Fleck> hmm
[06:23] <intelikey> ok fellows i'm went.
[06:23] <ghost_> there is no kicker-prozess running
[06:23] <intelikey> shalom !
[06:24] <ghost_> it seems not to be included in the kdeinit anymore
[06:24] <tom__> whoah, i just started it and now it works!
[06:25] <ghost_> when i start in manualy it only lasts for the actual session but dissapears in a new one
[06:25] <ghost_> no matter how often i save the session
[06:26] <tom__> sorry for bothering you, i have no idea why now it works, but it might have been because of the location of the .vmdk, i think last time i chose an ntfs mount
[06:27] <Fleck> tom__ i have vmware virtual disk on ntfs - works great with ntfs-3g :)
[06:28] <tom__> and microxp seems to run like instane on kubuntu
[06:28] <tom__> it took me 7 minutes to install it under xp, only 3 in kubuntu
[06:28]  * tom__ off to work :D
[06:28] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok i need helpbecause of the following
[06:28] <CostaRicanQuaker> intelikey was helping me upgrade ubuntu from dapper to hardy
[06:29] <CostaRicanQuaker> i had already done that as in had already done the upgrading thing and ti took like five hours to get allthepackages adne verything during that time i was sasleep i comeback and apparently it's still ubuntu dapper so there's a problem so intelikey tells me to type some commands i do then i reboot and guess waht? no GUI just ubuntu
[06:30] <CostaRicanQuaker> telling me dpkg was interrupted must manually run dpkg --configure - a to correct the rpobem and then tells me its not a valid command
[06:30] <Fleck> ghost_ http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-212648.html
[06:30] <Fleck> try this
[06:31] <CostaRicanQuaker> i'm on wiondows xp now
[06:31] <Fleck> CostaRicanQuaker in konsole: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:31] <CostaRicanQuaker> but i want my ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu back, with the windows partition mounted and upgraded to hardy
[06:31] <CostaRicanQuaker> so how do i do it
[06:31] <CostaRicanQuaker> no konsole, i cant boot up the gui it stays in tty1
[06:32] <Fleck> then login with your username and pass
[06:32] <Fleck> then sudo dpkg...
[06:32] <CostaRicanQuaker> and when i did that and typed that command
[06:32] <ghost_> Flex  thx
[06:32] <CostaRicanQuaker> it said...ok i'll write down what it said and come back
[06:32] <CostaRicanQuaker> brb
[06:39] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok
[06:39] <CostaRicanQuaker> that was not productive
[06:39] <CostaRicanQuaker> so i typed what it told me
[06:39] <CostaRicanQuaker> then a cascade of text happened
[06:39] <CostaRicanQuaker> so i tried the apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:39] <CostaRicanQuaker> didnt work
[06:39] <apparle> what will be the next version after hardy
[06:39] <CostaRicanQuaker> tried apt-get install kubuntu desktop
[06:39] <CostaRicanQuaker> didnt work
[06:40] <CostaRicanQuaker> suggested i tried something like apt-get install -f
[06:40] <CostaRicanQuaker> more text
[06:40] <CostaRicanQuaker> tried startx
[06:40] <CostaRicanQuaker> more text no GUI
[06:40] <CostaRicanQuaker> can someone help me boot ubuntu again s
[06:40] <holymoly> you are upgrading from what to what?
[06:40] <CostaRicanQuaker> so i can upload from dapper to hardy, mount my windows partition
[06:40] <[Relic]> is there any possible way to get a logical partition to be available for non-root on startup?
[06:41] <holymoly> CostaRicanQuaker: if a dist upgrade fails, sometimes a quick plain reinstall is faster
[06:41] <CostaRicanQuaker> all i want to do is have ubuntu GUI run, have kde xfce there if i want to login in them and have my partitions mounted so i can access my windows files
[06:41] <holymoly> just make sure you have /home backed up
[06:41] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok here's the deal holymoly
[06:41] <holymoly> everything else can go
[06:42] <CostaRicanQuaker> plain reinstall means using the old breezy 5.10 ubuntu cd
[06:42] <CostaRicanQuaker> and then upgrade to dapper
[06:42] <CostaRicanQuaker> and then get kubuntu
[06:42] <CostaRicanQuaker> and xubuntu
[06:42] <CostaRicanQuaker> again
[06:42] <holymoly> why?
[06:42] <holymoly> can't burn off a hardy cd?
[06:43] <CostaRicanQuaker> as i don't have anymore cdrs from burning a livecd for kubuntu that didnt work an alternate cd for kubuntu that didnt work a livecd for xubuntu that didnt work
[06:43] <holymoly> and why go kubuntu to xubuntu?
[06:43] <CostaRicanQuaker> an alternate cd for xubuntu that didnt work
[06:43] <holymoly> you can just install the alternate cd, install minimal then install xubuntu parts
[06:43] <holymoly> you don't need alternate for xubuntu
[06:43] <holymoly> just alternate
[06:43] <CostaRicanQuaker> no
[06:43] <CostaRicanQuaker> i ried all of those
[06:43] <CostaRicanQuaker> all had errors
[06:43] <CostaRicanQuaker> even when i downloaded from torrent
[06:43] <CostaRicanQuaker> so i dont trust that anymore and i ran out of disks
[06:44] <CostaRicanQuaker> only the canonical old breezy cd
[06:44] <CostaRicanQuaker> 5.10
[06:44] <holymoly> what had errors, the cd or th einstall?
[06:44] <holymoly> you checksummed the image, yes?
[06:44] <CostaRicanQuaker> the cd's wouldn't installed...computer would get stuck with every programme i tried to check the hashes with
[06:44] <CostaRicanQuaker> anyway
[06:44] <CostaRicanQuaker> I ALREADY HAVE UBUNTU
[06:45] <CostaRicanQuaker> it's loading, grub loads it
[06:45] <CostaRicanQuaker> i just dont know what commands to enter for the GUI to load
[06:45] <apparle> what's the verson after hardy 8.04 something from 'i'
[06:45] <CostaRicanQuaker> i dont even know if it upgraded to hardy
[06:45] <mr---t-> apparle: ibex
[06:45] <holymoly> so you have a command line? yes?
[06:45] <CostaRicanQuaker> yes
[06:45] <kumamoto> has kubuntu fixed the ipod amarok issue?
[06:45] <CostaRicanQuaker> it asks me for my password and login yes
[06:45] <CostaRicanQuaker> it does load
[06:46] <CostaRicanQuaker> but i needto load the GUI
[06:46] <CostaRicanQuaker> gnome
[06:46] <dsmith_> X doesn't load?
[06:46] <CostaRicanQuaker> no, i tried startx
[06:46] <CostaRicanQuaker> gave me some error
[06:46] <CostaRicanQuaker> that is i typed startx at the prompt and enter
[06:46] <dsmith_> xorg.conf misconfigured?
[06:46] <CostaRicanQuaker> so what do i do to load the gui?
[06:47] <dsmith_> if your at the command line and rrun startx
[06:47] <dsmith_> it should spit out an error
[06:47] <CostaRicanQuaker> i dont know, if you look at the log you'll see the commands intelikey told me to enter in konsole, some of them were removing erroneous packages i think from not upgrading well from dapper to hardy
[06:47] <CostaRicanQuaker> yes it spat out an error
[06:47] <CostaRicanQuaker> !log
[06:48] <CostaRicanQuaker> look up there a couple of hours ago
[06:48] <dsmith_> i was on at 1am
[06:48] <CostaRicanQuaker> i have been using linux 48 hours
[06:48] <dsmith_> I missed that
[06:48] <dsmith_> welcome !
[06:48] <CostaRicanQuaker> no imean...this is ludicrous...everything was going well
[06:49] <CostaRicanQuaker> but it hsoudl be there on the log the commands intelikey asked to paste
[06:49] <dsmith_> what ahppened?
[06:49] <CostaRicanQuaker> and wahtever caused this
[06:49] <dsmith_> well patience friend, I have had two major system issues with this machine
[06:49] <dsmith_> but thats was from my fault
[06:51] <CostaRicanQuaker> patience?
[06:51] <CostaRicanQuaker> i'm not going anywhere
[06:52] <CostaRicanQuaker> but i need to fix this
[06:53] <CostaRicanQuaker> so how do i promt the gui form the command line
[06:53] <holymoly> okay so i'm not going to bother to look through the irc logs ... some questions
[06:53] <holymoly> you have command line, you can log in.  great
[06:53] <holymoly> are you on hardy yet?
[06:54] <dsmith_> CostaRicanQuaker: uname -r
[06:55] <CostaRicanQuaker> i dont know, the whole point was to upgrade from dapper to hardy i did what had to be done apparently, and it took hours i went ot bed and hten i came back then intelikey was helping me check apparently i was still on dapper so he helped me with some commands and then this happened
[06:55] <holymoly> do what dsmith said
[06:55] <holymoly> lets see what kernel you have
[06:56] <CostaRicanQuaker> how do i do that?
[06:56] <dsmith_> type : uname -r
[06:56] <dsmith_> CostaRicanQuaker: did you make a backup before you upgraded?
[06:56] <CostaRicanQuaker> sudo uname -r ?
[06:56] <holymoly> dude c'mon
[06:56] <dsmith_> no need for sudo
[06:56] <holymoly> don't think so far ahead
[06:56] <dsmith_> lol
[06:56] <CostaRicanQuaker> ijust type uname -r ?
[06:56] <holymoly> its simple, just listen to what we say and do it
[06:57] <holymoly> yes for f's sake
[06:57] <holymoly> c'mon already
[06:57] <holymoly> lol
[06:57] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok it'll ask me for my login password and i enter that ok
[06:57] <holymoly> yes you haveto log in
[06:57] <holymoly> right
[06:57] <dsmith_> not with that cmd it won't
[06:57] <CostaRicanQuaker> here's the direct link to the log so you can see what commands were used i'll brb http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/07/03/%23kubuntu.html
[06:57] <dsmith_> so long as your already logeged in
[06:57] <holymoly> lol
[06:57] <holymoly> man people like that make me angry
[06:57] <holymoly> i want to throw fuckin vista cd's at them
[06:58] <dsmith_> LMFAO
[06:58] <dsmith_> hahhaah
[06:58] <stdin> holymoly: 1) watch the attitude, 2) watch the language
[06:58] <holymoly> k, k
[06:58] <dsmith_> kinda makes you wonder..
[06:58] <dsmith_> *shrug*
[06:59] <holymoly> what gets me is when the simplest requests simply get ignored
[06:59] <holymoly> i understand the frustration
[06:59] <holymoly> but we are spending our good will and time to help
[06:59] <dsmith_> doom on him, next
[07:00] <stdin> dsmith_: that's not a good attitude here either
[07:00] <stdin> it's up to you if you want to help, but don't be derogatory
[07:00] <holymoly> stdin: thats not exactly a fair statement
[07:01] <holymoly> why must the WILLING and HELPFULL bear the burden of the UNWILLING and WILLFULLY ignorant?
[07:01] <holymoly> the sword cuts both ways
[07:01] <dsmith_> ok, I take that back...
[07:01] <stdin> as I said, it's up to you _if_ you want to help
[07:01] <dsmith_> no doom on him, I wish him the best
[07:01] <holymoly> especially under circumstances where the willing and helpfull have clearly laid out the unbiased and non discriminatory carpet
[07:01] <stdin> I did not say "you mush help and be nice always and forever"
[07:01] <holymoly> maybe you think you didn't
[07:01] <holymoly> i'm simply pointing out the obvious
[07:02]  * dsmith_ brain is mush... after that episode..
[07:02] <stdin> I don't think I didn't, I know I did not, I can read my own backlog
[07:02] <holymoly> regardless i understand its pointless as really its not your place to listen
[07:02] <holymoly> well you can take that position thats fine
[07:02] <holymoly> the implication of your statement is the same regardless
[07:03] <dsmith_> I am fair and objective and willing to bend over backweards to help, but I have my limits
[07:04] <stdin> if you don't feel you can be respectful when helping, then don't help
[07:05] <CostaRicanQuaker> it said 2.6.15-52-386
[07:05] <dsmith_> thast hardy?
[07:06] <holymoly> i don't think so
[07:06] <CostaRicanQuaker> i think thats dapper
[07:06] <holymoly> sounds right
[07:06] <holymoly> so you want gui on dapper, yes?
[07:06] <CostaRicanQuaker> yes
[07:07] <CostaRicanQuaker> remember the option to log in session as either gnome kde or xfce was there already
[07:07] <holymoly> okay so when the system starts up you get the login manager, yes?
[07:07] <holymoly> a login session, right?
[07:07] <omega-xi> !!!
[07:07] <CostaRicanQuaker> yes
[07:08] <holymoly> not a black screen that lets you log in, a graphical log in session?
[07:08] <CostaRicanQuaker> oh no i get a black screen
[07:08] <omega-xi> (sorry wrong channel ^^;)
[07:08] <CostaRicanQuaker> that lets me login
[07:08] <holymoly> then you don't have a login manager
[07:08] <holymoly> you just have a terminal
[07:08] <holymoly> in which case thats cool
[07:08] <CostaRicanQuaker> it boots up and the kubuntu blue letters show up
[07:08] <CostaRicanQuaker> with the bar that loads blue
[07:08] <CostaRicanQuaker> then that shows up
[07:08] <holymoly> all right post your sources.list file somewhere so we can see what repos you are pulling from
[07:08] <CostaRicanQuaker> black screen prompting me to write my login
[07:09] <holymoly> wait say what?
[07:09] <holymoly> oh okay do this
[07:09] <holymoly> press ctrl / alt / del first
[07:09] <holymoly> lets see if it goes back to the login manager
[07:09] <holymoly> ohhhh yeah nm
[07:09] <holymoly> thats just the bootsplash
[07:09] <holymoly> that doesn't really mean much
[07:09] <holymoly> you are still at your terminal
[07:10] <CostaRicanQuaker> yeah
[07:10] <holymoly> okay so you are logged in, are you able to post your sources.list file anywhere?
[07:10] <CostaRicanQuaker> so i type control alt delete
[07:10] <CostaRicanQuaker> how?
[07:10] <holymoly> nothign should happen
[07:10] <CostaRicanQuaker> sudo /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[07:10] <holymoly> are you able to post your sources.list file anywhere?
[07:10] <holymoly> do you have access to that file from another machine maybe? no?
[07:11] <CostaRicanQuaker> are you asking me if i can open up the file with the sources list from the terminal?
[07:11] <CostaRicanQuaker> nope
[07:11] <holymoly> no, i'm asking you if you can post the contents on sources.list
[07:11] <holymoly> however
[07:11] <CostaRicanQuaker> nope
[07:11] <holymoly> since you don't know how to open it you obviously can't post it anyway
[07:11] <holymoly> in any case just do nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:11] <holymoly> post like one or two lines in here
[07:12] <holymoly> but no more
[07:12] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok brb
[07:19] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok first line
[07:19] <CostaRicanQuaker> deb htpp... hardy main restricted multiverse universe
[07:19] <holymoly> k
[07:20] <CostaRicanQuaker> scond line dep http...security main restricted
[07:20] <holymoly> okay good enough
[07:20] <holymoly> so
[07:20] <CostaRicanQuaker> yes
[07:20] <holymoly> basically your a bit screwed i guess ...
[07:20] <holymoly> you have a failed dist-upgrade
[07:20] <holymoly> and getting out of that gracefully is hard
[07:20] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok
[07:20] <holymoly> you probably have a rather large number of mixed old and new libraries
[07:20] <holymoly> and so getting say kdm with kde running will be difficult
[07:21] <holymoly> so before we do anything
[07:21] <CostaRicanQuaker> brb i gotta open the door
[07:21] <holymoly> you probably already tried sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, yes?
[07:23] <CostaRicanQuaker> yes
[07:23] <CostaRicanQuaker> didnt work
[07:23] <CostaRicanQuaker> back*
[07:24] <holymoly> okay so are you able to do anything without leaving here?
[07:24] <holymoly> on the ubuntu install i mean
[07:24] <holymoly> sounds like you have a dual boot system and are on windows
[07:24] <CostaRicanQuaker> nope
[07:24] <CostaRicanQuaker> ys
[07:24] <CostaRicanQuaker> yes, ia m
[07:24] <holymoly> *hmm*
[07:25] <holymoly> okay forgive me i will try not to annoy you but i haveto ask
[07:25] <dsffsf> hello
[07:25] <holymoly> downloading hardy  results in what? it checksums okay, it burns okay, but when you start the install process it fails?
[07:25]  * CostaRicanQuaker is very easily unnanoyed
[07:25] <ol_dude67> hey got a question, just wondering if i need to ask here or java...but yahoo pool is hell..anyone know why?
[07:25] <CostaRicanQuaker> yes, it says either
[07:25] <holymoly> ol_dude67: url?
[07:26] <CostaRicanQuaker> starting the base system
[07:26] <CostaRicanQuaker> or downloading software
[07:26] <CostaRicanQuaker> it stays around 6 percent or 25 depending on which
[07:26] <holymoly> lets clarify that statement
[07:26] <CostaRicanQuaker> for about 4-8 hours
[07:26] <CostaRicanQuaker> and nothing happens
[07:26] <dsffsf> Ok why o i have such fliping troble with any version of linux i tried
[07:26] <holymoly> is that during the download that that particular error happens?
[07:26] <ol_dude67> its yahoo pool...and java...just wondering if its just me or what...
[07:26] <Az99el> helo
[07:27] <holymoly> dsffsf: 99% of the time is not knowing just enough to really get it running
[07:27] <holymoly> ol_dude67: well i can't tell, you got a url so we can test?
[07:27] <dsffsf> im using fedora9
[07:27] <dsffsf> it  sucks
[07:27] <dsffsf> i have tied opensuse
[07:27] <holymoly> dsffsf: well that goes without saying for anything redhat  based on a desktop
[07:27] <dsffsf> debian
[07:27] <ol_dude67> switch to ubuntu
[07:27] <holymoly> lol
[07:27] <holymoly> :) i kid i kid
[07:27] <Az99el> vous etes des extraterrestre
[07:27] <dsffsf> and i have tried kubuntu
[07:28] <holymoly> dsffsf: i can get all of those working without a problem on most hardware
[07:28] <Az99el> vous parler  pas pas normalement
[07:28] <holymoly> its really trivial to be honest
[07:28] <dsffsf> i have a rt2500 linksys card
[07:28] <holymoly> CostaRicanQuaker: so when it says 6 percent ... you mean it just stopped downloading, yes?
[07:28] <dsffsf> and it wont work in most distros
[07:28] <holymoly> okay
[07:28] <holymoly> get a new one
[07:28] <holymoly> that does work
[07:28] <holymoly> its sort of like food
[07:28] <CostaRicanQuaker> during the download?
[07:29] <holymoly> if you don't like the taste you don't insist on eating more of it
[07:29] <ol_dude67> ok let me give a better example of the problem...first ...i can play pool but if i leave table java screws up and i have to start from scratch to get back to room
[07:29] <holymoly> you order something you like
[07:29] <holymoly> same process
[07:29] <CostaRicanQuaker> when i install the cd
[07:29] <holymoly> ol_dude67: how about a url?
[07:29] <CostaRicanQuaker> it installs
[07:29] <CostaRicanQuaker> and during the download or setting up the base system
[07:29] <CostaRicanQuaker> it gets stuck
[07:29] <holymoly> if i can actually look at it i can verify if at minimum happens here
[07:29] <dsffsf> im dl the kubuntu amd64 dvd now
[07:29] <holymoly> aha CostaRicanQuaker okay good more info
[07:29] <holymoly> CostaRicanQuaker: yes i have seen that happen
[07:30] <holymoly> CostaRicanQuaker: usually its a driver issue of some sort
[07:30] <CostaRicanQuaker> so i thought
[07:30] <CostaRicanQuaker> its the cdrw i'm using
[07:30] <CostaRicanQuaker> lets buy some cdrs
[07:30] <CostaRicanQuaker> so i did
[07:30] <ol_dude67> http://games.yahoo.com/games/ante
[07:30] <holymoly> right
[07:30] <CostaRicanQuaker> every single cd i checked for errors
[07:30] <ol_dude67> thats where im at
[07:30] <CostaRicanQuaker> you know when it asks you what you want ot do install kubuntu check cd for errors etc
[07:30] <CostaRicanQuaker> had errors
[07:30] <CostaRicanQuaker> even the ones that i got from official torrents
[07:31] <CostaRicanQuaker> so instead i looked in an old drawer
[07:31] <holymoly> okay so cds have errors
[07:31] <holymoly> aha
[07:31] <CostaRicanQuaker> and i had some old canonical
[07:31] <CostaRicanQuaker> 5.10
[07:31] <holymoly> yes cd errors will cause this problem too
[07:31] <CostaRicanQuaker> so i ahd an old canonical 5.10 ubuntu cd
[07:31] <CostaRicanQuaker> so i used that
[07:31] <dsffsf> and has amd gotten on the ball with the drivers for linux yet
[07:31] <CostaRicanQuaker> and i got kubuntu and then xubuntu
[07:31] <CostaRicanQuaker> and i was happy as a kite
[07:31] <CostaRicanQuaker> but then i needed hardy
[07:32] <CostaRicanQuaker> so i got dapper first
[07:32] <CostaRicanQuaker> that seemed fine
[07:32] <CostaRicanQuaker> then this happened
[07:32] <holymoly> yes right
[07:32] <holymoly> okay so you are doing something kind of tricky in ubuntu
[07:32] <holymoly> dist-upgrading is a 50/50 proposition
[07:32] <CostaRicanQuaker> what does that mean?
[07:32] <holymoly> they have a team that is supposed to test the upgrade process
[07:33] <holymoly> but dist-upgrading sometimes works sometimes you get a hosed system like you ended up with
[07:33] <holymoly> it works far better on debian, but debian has 2 year dev cycles while ubuntu has 6 month dev cycles
[07:33] <CostaRicanQuaker> well
[07:33] <CostaRicanQuaker> someone said
[07:33] <CostaRicanQuaker> i should upgrade release by release
[07:33] <CostaRicanQuaker> up to hardy
[07:33] <dsffsf> wow
[07:33] <CostaRicanQuaker> but i wanted to do it from dapper to hardy
[07:34] <holymoly> CostaRicanQuaker: that works sure
[07:34] <holymoly> its just that each jump is about 50/50 ... okay odds are probably wway better
[07:34] <holymoly> however i do a lot of ubuntu related stuff ... we have hundreds of ubuntu desktops
[07:34] <holymoly> lets just say we have given up on dist upgrades
[07:34] <CostaRicanQuaker> then how do you upgrade?
[07:35] <CostaRicanQuaker> wait 6 weeks for canonical to shipit?
[07:35] <dsffsf> holymoly: you know ne thing about the amd drivers
[07:35] <holymoly> what we do is create new images on hard drives, send out hds and just have a local tech replace the hds and boot the machine up
[07:35] <holymoly> then we just push the users data back to them
[07:35] <holymoly> it's just the price you pay for such an ambitious project with such short release cycles
[07:35] <CostaRicanQuaker> i didn't get after send out hds
[07:35] <CostaRicanQuaker> explain
[07:35] <holymoly> we are just gratefull to be off of the ms upgrade cycle
[07:36] <CostaRicanQuaker> i beseech
[07:36] <holymoly> we can put up with this no problem its simple in comparison to dealing with ms crap
[07:36] <holymoly> well ubuntu doesn't care what box its on
[07:36] <dsffsf> heard
[07:36] <holymoly> just install it on an hd
[07:36] <CostaRicanQuaker> agreed
[07:36] <holymoly> and plug it into any machine
[07:36] <CostaRicanQuaker> aha
[07:36] <holymoly> and it will start up 99.9 percent of the time
[07:36] <holymoly> all our boxes are supported, we make sure we don't buy microsoft crap
[07:37] <ol_dude67> CostaRicanQuaker, your better off going from a full install of the newest...dont start with old start with what is out...
[07:37] <holymoly> so we just send out hd's and swap, its the only real way
[07:37] <holymoly> so as ol_dude67said, you REALLY need to figure out a way to get a good hardy cd burned off
[07:37] <holymoly> :/
[07:37] <dsffsf> yall heard ne thing about the amd video card drivers
[07:37] <holymoly> nothign wrong with your way, its just the odds are against you it seems
[07:37] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok here's the deal
[07:37] <ol_dude67> ya amd is working hard to catch up...
[07:37] <holymoly> dsffsf: yess sorry just busy
[07:37] <CostaRicanQuaker> i have ordered 15 cds
[07:37] <CostaRicanQuaker> from shipit
[07:37] <holymoly> ol_dude67: so crazy pool 2?
[07:38] <dsffsf> its cool holymoly
[07:38] <CostaRicanQuaker> it will probably take months to get here
[07:38] <ol_dude67> ya it wont let me leave a game...
[07:38] <holymoly> ol_dude67: none of those games are java
[07:38] <ol_dude67> with out a redo
[07:38] <holymoly> ol_dude67: its flash
[07:38] <CostaRicanQuaker> most likely it will be hardy right?
[07:38] <CostaRicanQuaker> what i'm going to get
[07:38] <ol_dude67> no pool is java based
[07:38] <CostaRicanQuaker> so technically speaking
[07:38] <holymoly> your url didn't bring up the game
[07:38] <ol_dude67> hardy is probably it..if not ...do single upgrades.
[07:38] <holymoly> he did
[07:38] <holymoly> they didn't work
[07:39] <CostaRicanQuaker> thats what i mean
[07:39] <holymoly> lets actually try to read as we help fellas
[07:39] <dsffsf> lolz
[07:39] <ol_dude67> you have to go to yahoo an log in...its there way of doing things...i think its java based problems.
[07:39] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok anyway
[07:39] <ol_dude67> i asked in java..but no reply yet.
[07:39] <CostaRicanQuaker> i will get hardy eventually
[07:39] <CostaRicanQuaker> to upgrade to that
[07:39] <CostaRicanQuaker> and then i can just wait till the next lst comes out
[07:39] <CostaRicanQuaker> meanwhile
[07:40] <CostaRicanQuaker> i gotta get ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu back
[07:40] <CostaRicanQuaker> and have it all on dapper that is
[07:40] <CostaRicanQuaker> dapper worked fine it was upgrading from dapper to hardy that messed things up
[07:40] <CostaRicanQuaker> so how do i get back to that
[07:41] <holymoly> i can't access the game so i can't test
[07:41] <holymoly> sorry
[07:41] <ol_dude67> i thought ubuntu had a back track?
[07:41] <holymoly> back track what?
[07:41] <CostaRicanQuaker> sure jumping several upgrades apart from dapper to hardy probably wasn't good but maybe i canupgrade one by one
[07:41] <CostaRicanQuaker> so what do i do holymoly?
[07:41] <holymoly> yeah thats far less risky
[07:41] <ol_dude67> thats what you needed to do...to many upgrades in between
[07:41] <holymoly> well try that if you can't wait for cd's
[07:41] <holymoly> you don't have a choice really
[07:42] <CostaRicanQuaker> yes but what do i do withmy hosed up system now?
[07:42] <CostaRicanQuaker> to boot the GUI
[07:42] <holymoly> nothing, its not really hosed
[07:42] <holymoly> put the cd in and install
[07:42] <holymoly> dapepr or whatever it is
[07:42] <CostaRicanQuaker> what?
[07:42] <holymoly> your windows will still be there
[07:42] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok then, here's my question
[07:42] <holymoly> and the installer should still recognize the windows partition and ask you about it
[07:42] <CostaRicanQuaker> when i stick in the cd
[07:43] <holymoly> k
[07:43] <CostaRicanQuaker> i can write it over the existing
[07:43] <holymoly> sure
[07:43] <CostaRicanQuaker> ext3 partition right?
[07:43] <holymoly> yep
[07:43] <holymoly> just MAKE SURE you don't overwrite your windows partition
[07:43] <CostaRicanQuaker> formatting allprevious data from the *buntus
[07:43] <holymoly> you sound smart enough to know which is which
[07:43] <holymoly> yes correct
[07:43]  * CostaRicanQuaker looks desperaely for the ubuntu cd
[07:43] <holymoly> grub should find your windows partition and put an entry pointing to it as well
[07:44] <dsffsf> yeah never had a problem with it not finding mine when i had windows
[07:44] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok please don't leave i will still need you to update to dapper and edgy and install xubuntu and kubuntu
[07:44] <ol_dude67> now if we was talking slackware...id say have fun...lol
[07:45] <holymoly> heh
[07:45] <dsffsf> ok my turn?
[07:45] <holymoly> sure
[07:45] <dsffsf> lol
[07:45] <ol_dude67> why not...lol
[07:45] <dsffsf> i am tired of flipingwindows
[07:45] <ol_dude67> haha so delete it..lmao
[07:46] <dsffsf> i have used linux on and off since fc6
[07:47] <dsffsf> my main problem is hard ware support
[07:47] <dsffsf> have it on every machine i fliping get
[07:47] <dsffsf> lol
[07:47] <holymoly> we never run into that, we always buysupported stuff
[07:47] <ol_dude67> what type of hard ware?
[07:47] <dsffsf> there like a kubuntu hardware store lol
[07:48] <ol_dude67> no but there is linux base stores..just like mac
[07:48] <dsffsf> cool
[07:48] <dsffsf> have not really looked for them lol
[07:48] <ol_dude67> google is your friend
[07:49] <ol_dude67> hey i run a p4 with kubuntu..so anything is possible.
[07:49] <dsffsf> i have a att/amd radeon 9800xt
[07:49] <dsffsf> ati*
[07:49] <holymoly> thats the first problem right there
[07:49] <holymoly> :)
[07:49] <dsffsf> and the drivers sorta have issues or somthing
[07:50] <ol_dude67> right now amd and ati are having fits to fit in.
[07:50] <dsffsf> the one game i want to work in linux under wine wont fricking work
[07:50] <dsffsf> that trivia lol
[07:50] <dsffsf> trivial
[07:50] <holymoly> thats common indeed
[07:51] <dsffsf> (sorry have a thing on my left had/wrist sliced the tendon/atery and nerve so bear with the horrid spelling)
[07:51] <ol_dude67> np
[07:51] <dsffsf> i like to tweak around inside linux
[07:52] <dsffsf> and make it my one so tocspeak
[07:52] <holymoly> it's fun eh?
[07:52] <ol_dude67> amd and ati are now one, and are committed to putting out the best machines possible...but you will still have to give them time to get there s____ together.
[07:52] <dsffsf> yes i love linux
[07:52] <ol_dude67> sorry im a amd fan.
[07:52] <dsffsf> same here
[07:53] <ol_dude67> bought this box cause it was cheap.
[07:53] <dsffsf> i download the beta hardy kde3 version
[07:54] <unholyskorn> Anyone know a good mac channel?
[07:55] <dsffsf> may i ask why kubuntu disables the root account
[07:55] <ol_dude67> so you dont screw it up.
[07:55] <unholyskorn> anyone know how to get mac osx to run on a x86 pc?
[07:55] <asraniel__> dsffsf: for the same reason ubuntu does, security problems and that people don't login as root
[07:56] <dsffsf> Me screw it up ;)
[07:56] <ol_dude67> yep...all it takes is a bad command ...
[07:56] <asraniel__> dsffsf: well, if you are a experienced user, you can always enable the root account again
[07:56] <ol_dude67> and linux will let you
[07:56] <dsffsf> unholy google it
[07:56] <asraniel__> dsffsf: but for what do you need the root account anyway?
[07:56] <dsffsf> there are a few site that will help
[07:57] <unholyskorn> can i just burn the dvd and install like normal?
[07:57] <dsffsf> no mac used diff hardware and it need  hacks and stuff to make it work
[07:57] <asraniel__> osx on normal pc? no, wont work withou a few hacks
[07:57] <unholyskorn> how hard is it to do?
[07:58] <unholyskorn> i have windows and kubuntu now i wanna put osx on here too
[07:58] <ol_dude67> ok im out of here...laters im not helping anymore..
[07:58] <ol_dude67> g/night
[08:22] <JdGordon> hey all, I've just installed hardy and for some reason I have no sound... Kinfocenter shows my audio hardware, and output is not muted in alsamixer... but i have no sound
[08:27] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok so i am on the terminal
[08:27] <CostaRicanQuaker> how did i do open my sources.list?
[08:27] <CostaRicanQuaker> holymoly?
[08:30] <CostaRicanQuaker> help
[08:31] <CostaRicanQuaker> i just installed breezy ubuntu release 5.10, i need to know how to open my sources.list file and someone to help me get the dapper repos to upgrade to dapper and then get xubunt-desktop
[08:32] <gnomefreak> CostaRicanQuaker: sudo kedit /etc/apt/sources.list and change breezy to dapper
[08:32] <gnomefreak> CostaRicanQuaker: kedit or any editor you like best
[08:33] <|Ange|us|> guys
[08:34] <|Ange|us|> im loged in over ssh from my fathers computer to my kubuntu box
[08:34] <bsusa> Im having some trouble running Tremulous on Ubuntu 8.04 when i get in the game it opend fine but the screen flickers frequently, then when i actually start playing thr game it puts me into window mode and i cant move. Any suggestions please?
[08:34] <CostaRicanQuaker> didnt work with kedit
[08:34] <|Ange|us|> do you know how i can play mp3's over ssh ? i want to hear the sound on the windows computer not on the kubuntu box, please somebody helps me
[08:35] <CostaRicanQuaker> didnt work with kedit
[08:35] <CostaRicanQuaker> what do i type?
[08:36] <kkiil> what disk do i need to dl to get my raid array to show in amd 64 dvd install
[08:38] <CostaRicanQuaker> sudo: /etc/apt/sources.list: command not found
[08:38] <CostaRicanQuaker> sebastian@sebastian:~$
[08:44] <CostaRicanQuaker> holymoly, can you help me get the dapper repos?
[08:58] <sunny256> Hi, folks... Have some trouble with apt-get - dists/hardy/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 is broken everywhere (CRC error). Any solutions to things like that? The .gz file seems OK, but I'm not sure how I'll tell apt-get to use that instead.
[09:00] <jaakkome> Is there a way to make Kmail ignore certain files / folders on my mail account?
[09:01] <jaakkome> Now it fails when it tries to read files there as mailboxes even though there are also other kinds of files on the account
[09:12] <visik7> hi all
[09:12] <visik7> anyone tried to compile amarok2 from svn ?
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[09:23] <havocologe> how to add newer versions of packages than they are available in aptitude ?
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> havocologe: download the .deb file
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> havocologe: sudo dpkg -i /path/to/deb/file
[09:25] <havocologe> there is no dpkg file. only a source.rpm
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> havocologe: try lots to find a deb
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> but if all else fails
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> !alien | havocologe
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> havocologe: alien is really an ABSOLUTE last ditch as its not very graceful or advised, but can be done
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> havocologe: id try to keep to debs
[09:36] <havocologe> how to know what version of kubuntu is running on my actual machine ?
[09:39] <DarkriftX> type in console "uname -a"
[09:39] <CostaRicanQuaker> lsb_release -a
[09:41] <slooblack> bonjour
[09:46] <havocologe> CostaRicanQuaker: thanks
[09:59] <daesung> hey who can me help? I have problem in logging out..
[10:05] <pc_> hi
[10:05] <daesung> hi
[10:05] <pc_> do u know the french server for ubuntu please?
[10:05] <havocologe> daesung: could you be a bit more specific ?
[10:05] <daesung> haha thanks a lot
[10:06] <pc_> ??
[10:06] <daesung> I am using nvidia mx 200MX and in logging out I got just black screen
[10:07] <pc_> please i have a pb with my ftpserver
[10:08] <daesung> then I can not use more any key. what I can do is to press ctrl+alt+del
[10:09] <daesung> pc : sorry .. I have no idea for the french server
[10:10] <Nece228> does full upgrade downloads and installs the updates?
[10:10] <daesung> of course..
[10:11] <daesung> I am using nvidia-glx package also
[10:11] <Nece228> sudo apt-get full-upgrade will do that?
[10:11] <pc_> no pb i will speak english
[10:12] <gnomefreak> Nece228: you do know that doesnt do anything right?
[10:12] <Nece228> yeah
[10:12] <Nece228> what command is for donwloading and installing upgrades
[10:12] <Nece228> i want to this via console
[10:13] <gnomefreak> Nece228: either sudo apt-get upgrade or sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:13] <daesung> I have used jest Adapt manager
[10:13] <CostaRicanQuaker> I should STUDY ubuntu!
[10:13]  * CostaRicanQuaker has an epiphany
[10:13] <gnomefreak> Nece228: now sure what you are doing upgrading (is it just normal hardy updates or are you upgrading from gutsy to hardy
[10:14] <daesung> no I installed new hardy..
[10:14] <Nece228> its normal hardy updates
[10:14] <Nece228> i had installed kubuntu hardy few months ago
[10:14] <gnomefreak> Nece228: than those commands are good
[10:14] <waylandbill> I'm looking for a simple way to dump the filesystem to multiple DVD-RW disks. Any suggestions?
[10:14] <Nece228> but now i want do all upgrades, to provide more stable system
[10:15] <daesung> anyboy has problem with nvidia driver in logging out?
[10:15] <daesung> plz help me... it makes me annoy...
[10:15] <SniZzo> me no... (GT6600)
[10:17] <daesung> why black screen... I hv no problem if I do not use nvidia-glx.. but with 3d accelleration
[10:18] <tictric> daesung: try proposed-updates repository from ubuntu
[10:18] <tictric> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-proposed main restricted universe multiverse
[10:18] <tictric> if you haven't yet
[10:18] <tictric> There's a more recent driver iirc
[10:19] <___thomax> anyone here can tell me how to shape network traffic per application?
[10:19] <apparle> !kde4
[10:20] <daesung> tictric: I will try it
[10:20] <daesung> thanks
[10:25] <Mentaticus> good day all
[10:25] <Mentaticus> wondering if anyone can help me with a partion issue
[10:26] <tictric> daesung: see also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#Troubleshooting
[10:27] <tictric> oh, to late :)
[10:28] <jaakkome> has somebody got teamspeak 2 working with alsa-oss ?
[10:28] <Mentaticus> i recently installed ubuntu and then decided to use the KDE desktop (which i like more) that then went to uninstall kde killed install
[10:28] <Mentaticus> trying to reformat
[10:29] <Mentaticus> noticed in windows there were some extra partions
[10:29] <Mentaticus> delted those
[10:29] <Mentaticus> now in windows burning kubuntu 4
[10:29] <Mentaticus> hopingh windows install isnt deaed
[10:30] <tictric> Mentaticus: you could've installed kde from gnome desktop too or use them alongside :(
[10:30] <Mentaticus> yeah
[10:30] <Mentaticus> but its was kde 3.5.9 i think
[10:30] <Mentaticus> wanted the latest
[10:30] <Mentaticus> so i uninstalled
[10:31] <tictric> wasn't necessary either
[10:31] <Mentaticus> or thougt i uninstalled thru synaptic manager
[10:31] <Mentaticus> once i removed everything called kde i crashed the windows interfece in linux
[10:32] <Mentaticus> im a linux n00b
[10:32] <Mentaticus> im serious about learning
[10:32] <Mentaticus> last i used was mandrake
[10:32] <tictric> next time before you uninstall or kill your hd you better ask here:)
[10:32] <Mentaticus> back in the 90's
[10:32] <Mentaticus> agreed
[10:32] <Mentaticus> lol
[10:32] <Mentaticus> so im guess i should restart see if windows still works
[10:33] <Mentaticus> then install kubuntu
[10:33] <Mentaticus> advice at this point?
[10:34] <Mentaticus> before i restart tictric
[10:35] <Mentaticus> when i rebooted i would have options for linux or windows
[10:35] <Mentaticus> i deltd partitions
[10:35] <Mentaticus> that i didnt know in windows
[10:35] <daesung> tittric: I tried what u said.. but I still hv same problem in logging out
[10:35] <Mentaticus> hoping that would get rid of linux instal
[10:35] <Mentaticus> restarting brb
[10:36] <Mentaticus> maybe
[10:38] <guillaume_> salut enzo
[10:38] <guillaume_> on est tot seuls ??
[10:38] <enzo_> non
[10:38] <guillaume_> xkcd.com
[10:39] <apparle> are juk an ddragon based on xine
[10:46] <apparle> why can't I open p.u.c
[10:51] <apparle> why can't I open packages.ubuntu.com
[11:24] <LiNuxBaBe> i'm running kubuntu 8.04,, installed ndiswrapper,, but if I try to connect with wifi-radar he won't get an ip-adress.. Dmesg output says ndiswrapper:: key 1 not set
[11:27] <apparle> !arts
[11:31] <sigma_12> how do i install kubuntu onto a apple imac?
[11:32] <apparle> Ithink it is the powerpc version
[11:32] <sigma_12> wasnt it discontinued?
[11:33] <rysiek> guys, I need to turn off power saving features of nVidia GF8500 (i.e. so that the monitor doesn't get turned off after 45mins), but I have to do it from console
[11:33] <rysiek> any hints?
[11:35] <sigma_12> why do you have to do it from konsole?
[11:36] <apparle> sigma_12: I don't know
[11:37] <rysiek> sigma_12: because it's a machine being used as a server
[11:37] <rysiek> sigma_12: although it's not kubuntu server, it's a regular desktop flavor
[11:38] <rysiek> sigma_12: don't ask why
[11:41] <dbglt> for some reason, the cpu throttling in kpowersave does not work (but I can set it manually from the CLI). Any ideas what could be wrong?
[11:44] <bsusa> hello
[11:45] <engineer> omg
[11:45] <engineer> Crude Oil
[11:45] <engineer> $145.27
[11:45] <bsusa> My situattion is this. The game that i am running is running in 640x480 mode fullscreen, whenever i change the reso in the game it tries to but then freezes. So i am wondering if there is a way to execute the game from the terminal and force a resolution?
[11:45] <JanMalte> Is there a good article about using gpg under win in combination with outlook?
[11:46] <JanMalte> which game?
[11:51] <bsusa> Conan: The Dark Axe
[11:54] <waylandbill> is it feasible to have the /home on a ntfs partition since it's now safe for reading and writing?
[12:00] <apparle> waylandbill: I don't recommend it because I thnk NTFS is proprietary of microsft
[12:01] <Amarilis> hi guys!
[12:02] <pc_> hello all!
[12:02] <Amarilis> i need to know if there is a way to save my mbr ( i have a dual boot machine win-lin) and i dont want to loose the settings
[12:02] <pc_> i have a problem with ssh
[12:03] <Amarilis> i use grub as boot manager
[12:03] <pc_> soemone knows why i don't connect me by internet?
[12:04] <pc_> help me please
[12:07] <thierry> @pc dou you have wireless or cable?
[12:07] <aude> cable
[12:07] <thierry> connected straight or with a router?
[12:08] <aude> routeur
[12:08] <aude> are u french?
[12:08] <thierry> no, but can you connect to your router?
[12:08] <aude> yes
[12:10] <theking> Is anybody here to help?
[12:10] <thierry> let me see
[12:10] <thierry> do you have manuel configuration or dhcp?
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[12:11] <aude> dhcp
[12:11] <aude> with redirection dyndns
[12:17] <Guest54559> Hola, alguien me puede explicar como van los escritorios de KDE
[12:17] <Guest54559> es que cambio de escritorio, pero las ventanas que estaban en el otro escritorio aun estyan visibles en la barra
[12:18] <NickPresta> !es | Guest54559
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> why do people use guest as a nick
[12:27] <JanMalte>  Is there a good article about using gpg under win in combination with outlook?
[12:30] <briggzer> hey guys....
[12:31] <flaccid> JanMalte: ##windows and google
[12:32] <JanMalte> yes, its not for my information, its for spreading the information
[12:42] <philsf> hi, I'm using kontact in gnome, and I found a reproductible crash bug. I'd like to use the Report bug entry in Help menu to fill relevant information for me, however, it apparently only have the option to report directly to .kde.org.  Also despite having apport-qt installed, apport doesn't kick in (kcrash does). How can I make apport-qt catch the crash, so I can easilly report directly to launchpad?
[12:54] <SlimG> How do I connect to a ssh server with the fish protocol (Konqueror) when the ssh-server is running on another port then 22 ?
[12:59] <philsf> SlimG: have you tried appending the usual way of appending :port_no to the server?
[13:02] <SlimG> philsf: embarrasing, That works, it was the first thing I tested, but I might have been fooled by a defect network connection :P
[13:02] <Dr_willis> :)
[13:03] <philsf> SlimG: I would be upset if it didn't work :)
[13:05] <philsf> is apport-qt supposed to work with kcrash, or should I remove kcrash so that apport-qt collects crash information?
[13:06] <Githzerai> philsf: I belive that much more than apport-qt is required for full debug output
[13:06] <philsf> Githzerai: such as?
[13:07] <Githzerai> philsf: Do you have all -dbg packages ?
[13:07] <Githzerai> Githzerai: for Kontact
[13:08] <philsf> Githzerai: I don't see -dbg for kontact nor kmail
[13:08] <philsf> Githzerai: oh, kdepim-dbg
[13:08] <Githzerai> philsf: And Knotify itself does crash a lot in Gnome, kind of a setback if u ask me :)
[13:09] <philsf> I didn't have it installaedm I'll try it now
[13:09] <philsf> Githzerai: yeah? doest it complain, or crash silently for you?
[13:11] <Githzerai> philsf: Well, knotify offers u easy bug reporting through mail service. In Gnome sometimes it just doesn't apperar, or appears but can't do anything with it....
[13:12] <philsf> Githzerai: hmm, I honestly never noticed it. I usually cancel email reports anyway. I guess the only crashes I get to email-report are amarok's
[13:13] <Githzerai> philsf: Amarok has different packaging philosophy. And it an extragear app, so bugs are not reported to KDE but Amarok devel...
[13:13] <philsf> what's been driving me nuts is kpilotDaemon. hardy's version can't work properly for long. crashes and freezes a lot. and when it doesn't freeze per se, it doesn't respond to other programs calls (even kpilot!), and keeps me from logging out/shutdown/reboot
[13:14] <philsf> Githzerai: in that case, I think never got knotify to report a bug by email :)
[13:14] <philsf> but I never got a crash report about either (at least not from kcrash)
[13:15] <root> .
[13:17] <Githzerai> philsf: Well, if you use it in Gnome, you should know that some things are just ment to be used in KDE and depend on lot of KDE stuff. Yes I (used to) have Knotify appearances i Gnome, but my primary session was allways and will be KDE. Maybe that has to do something with it . :) ;)
[13:18] <philsf> Githzerai: I'd thought that by now amarok should be integrated with kde.
[13:18] <Githzerai> philsf: Yes it is integrated. More than ever. ;)
[13:19] <philsf> Githzerai: I mean, as a core app, kdemultimedia?
[13:19] <Githzerai> philsf: It's just that it isn't official part of kde, but an extragear app. ;)
[13:20] <philsf> Githzerai: yeah, that's what I tried to say :) s/integrated/official/
[13:21] <Githzerai> philsf: Progams that have story of there own are supposed to be separated from basic KDE. Say, K3b an many other develop in such way...
[13:22] <philsf> Githzerai: I read somewhere that KDE4 is/was supposed to eliminate excessive duplication of apps for the same purpose (kedit/kwrite/kate, for example). is that correct/still stand?
[13:22] <Githzerai> philsf: Which deosn't in any way mean that they are not well integrated in enviroment ;)
[13:22] <philsf> Githzerai: I'm sorry I used "integrated" :) I meant official
[13:23] <philsf> Githzerai: I used KDE from 3.0 to k.5.7, I agree there are no integration issues (au contraire)
[13:24] <Githzerai> philsf: I understand. ;) Just trying to explain the meaning of extragear. ;)
[13:26] <Githzerai> philsf: as for KDE4 I honestly don't know. I've been using it all the way, and even nowdays I find myself wondering what were developers thinking... It's a good stuff though, just don't ask for plans ... ;)
[13:27] <philsf> I also read that KDE4.0 is not targetted for end users, as will be KDE4.1. is this correct?
[13:28] <philsf> I mean, even though it's stable
[13:29] <Githzerai> philsf: Intrepid Ibex is going to be KDE 4.1. That covers it all. ;) As for further questions about KDE 4, think #kubuntu-kde4 is appropriate place. ;)
[13:30] <emilsedgh> philsf: it good for people who want to run on bleeding edge software
[13:30] <Githzerai> emilsedgh: Wrong ;)
[13:31] <philsf> Githzerai: nice, didn't know that about intrepid. looking forward for that
[13:32] <emilsedgh> then sorry Githzerai
[13:32] <Dr_willis> 3 editors is escessive? heh
[13:32] <ct529> I am trying to listen again to programs on bbc 7. I have mozilla installed with mozilla helix player plug in, but it does not play automatically the ram files. Why?
[13:33] <philsf> Dr_willis: you don't think so??
[13:34] <philsf> Githzerai: btw, installing kdepim-dbg didn't make apport notice the crash. further ideas?
[13:34] <Githzerai> emilsedgh: Try KDE 4.1 beta 2, than make oppinion for yourself. Don't listen anything anybody tells you, but listen to yourself ;)
[13:34] <emilsedgh> Githzerai: im on svn
[13:34] <emilsedgh> Githzerai: and its awesome :)
[13:36] <Githzerai> emilsedgh: Well trunk is bleeding edge, that's for sure :) ;)
[13:36] <emilsedgh> Githzerai: oh, sorry, i thought the guy asked about 4.0, now i scrolled up and saw he asked about 4.1
[13:36] <emilsedgh> :P
[13:37] <emilsedgh> Githzerai: i really think i need to sleep for a while!
[13:37] <philsf> although the trace was much richer
[13:38] <Githzerai> emilsedgh: :) Usually helps.  Than u wake up and see : "OMG no updates today !!!" Then u wonder why u even woke up...... :D
[13:40] <emilsedgh> Githzerai: haha yeah
[13:40] <Githzerai> philsf: No idea honestly. Not much of a Gnome user. IMHO Gnome's even existance is a bug for itself, so can't be much of a help ... ;)
[13:41] <philsf> Githzerai: lol, ok let's leave it at that :)
[13:41] <Githzerai> philsf: Be a man : Use KDE :D ;)
[13:41] <philsf> no flamewars intended
[13:42] <Githzerai> philsf: We're all having fun, no flamewars intended indeed. ;)
[13:43] <philsf> :)
[13:44] <Dr_willis> Phlame wars
[13:44] <philsf> tbh, I changed because the excessive availability of choice in KDE was keeping from my my job. I'm an upgrade freak, and a config freak, so I can never see a new option feature and not try it
[13:45] <Githzerai> philsf: That's the spirit. ;)
[13:45] <philsf> my advisor disagrees :)
[14:15] <tcpsyn> morning
[14:17] <tcpsyn> Where does kde 4.1 keep it's startup logs?
[14:17] <tcpsyn> I have to delete .kde4 every time I restart KDE and I'd like to find out why
[14:19] <waylandbill> anyone know of a utility to edit iso contents?
[14:20] <bazhang> waylandbill, you want to customize or just remove something from iso
[14:24] <BluesKaj> hiyas
[14:25] <waylandbill> bazhang: customize.
[14:25] <bazhang> !uck
[14:25] <bazhang> waylandbill, ^^
[14:26] <waylandbill> ok. cool.
[14:36] <thewhitepelican> is there a program to easily clear out the /var/cache/apt/archives folder?
[14:37] <Pici> thewhitepelican: Sure! sudo apt-get clean
[14:37] <thewhitepelican> cool
[14:37] <thewhitepelican> :)
[14:37] <thewhitepelican> who needs a gui hehe
[14:56] <ct529> what do you use to listen to podcats under kde / kubuntu?
[14:57] <roo82> Amarok :D
[15:00] <magu507> oi oi
[15:00] <magu507> I need help ffs
[15:00] <bazhang> need a question magu507
[15:01] <magu507> I just installed kubuntu, everythings working fine, yet I cannot install anything
[15:01] <magu507> some error always pops up
[15:01] <bazhang> what error magu507
[15:03] <giagkost> Can anyone please tell me how can I speak through the IRC client but I cannot see web pages using konqueror?
[15:03] <giagkost> anybody who can help me?
[15:03] <magu507> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[15:03] <Sorax> maybe konqueror is in offline mode?
[15:03] <magu507> it seems like the linuxubuntu modules are broken
[15:04] <giagkost> how do I fix it?
[15:04] <giagkost> My modem is crypto F200
[15:04] <magu507> Ubuntu supplied Linux modules for version 2.6.22 on x86/x86_64 seems to be broken
[15:05] <magu507> bazhang , can I get it from the install cd?
[15:05] <bazhang> magu507, could you pastebin the exact error at paste.ubuntu.com
[15:09] <magu507> oh sure mate
[15:09] <magu507> Ubuntu supplied Linux modules for version 2.6.22 on x86/x86_64
[15:09] <magu507> This package contains modules supplied by Ubuntu for Linux kernel 2.6.22 on x86/x86_64.
[15:09] <magu507> You likely do not want to install this package directly. Instead, install the linux-generic meta-package, which will ensure that upgrades work correctly, and that supporting packages are also installed.
[15:09] <giagkost> I think I made the right configurations but this message appears:
[15:09] <giagkost> Plugin pppoatm.so loaded.
[15:09] <giagkost> Using interface ppp0
[15:09] <giagkost> Connect: ppp0 <--> 8.35
[15:10] <giagkost> PAP authentication succeeded
[15:10] <giagkost> Cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP
[15:10] <giagkost> local  IP address 213.5.61.38
[15:10] <giagkost> remote IP address 213.5.0.13
[15:10] <giagkost> primary   DNS address 213.5.41.8
[15:10] <giagkost> secondary DNS address
[15:10] <bazhang> just install the linux-generic package then magu507
[15:12] <giagkost> anybody knows the answer how to fix konqueror?
[15:27] <giagkost>  I did some efforts connecting with konqueror and it says there is a problem with proxy
[15:31] <ImperialJester> Can someone tell me how to set Mozilla as my dominant browser?/
[15:31] <ImperialJester> (please)
[15:31] <divansantana> under systemsettings
[15:31] <divansantana> default appliactions
[15:31] <divansantana> web browser...
[15:32] <ImperialJester> Um... Can you do it through the command line?
[15:34] <ImperialJester> Nevermind, I got it. Thank you.
[15:34] <divansantana> cool
[15:34] <lcs> abaldet' %)
[15:39] <lcs> how to delete (uninstall) KDE3, when i install KDE4 ?
[15:48] <lnxkde> hi guys
[15:48] <ImperialJester> Hello...
[15:48] <Githzerai> Tuj sam
[15:49] <lnxkde> hi , I need to know a if you guys know of a good rauter that has QOS and VPN
[15:49] <lnxkde> :D
[15:50] <bazhang> ##hardware may know
[15:50] <lnxkde> dint know about that chanel :D
[15:52] <karl_> lnxkde: get the wrt54gL and install openwrt
[16:46] <geega> hi.. how to add the system tray if we remove. it is in ubuntu 8.04
[16:46] <geega> anybody have idea on this
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> sup geega
[16:46] <geega> hi
[16:46] <geega> hi.. how to add the system tray if we remove. it is in ubuntu 8.04. any idea ?
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> geega: do you mean for when you minimise apps
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> ?
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> Guest7296: id log off, then log on as a user account
[16:48] <geega> no. there some notification icons will be there
[16:48] <geega> that one
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> geega: oh, like near the clock?
[16:48] <geega> yes
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> geega: ok I now know what you mean
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> geega: if you right click on that bar
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> add applet
[16:49] <geega> that applet option . i couldn't see here
[16:50] <geega> only add to pannel and new panel
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> geega: kde3 or kde4/
[16:50] <geega> ubuntu - desktop
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> geega: do you use kde or gnome?
[16:50] <geega> gnome
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> then head over to #ubuntu and ask there but i may be able to websearch you something
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311370
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> geega: Right click empty space on your panel, click "Add to panel" and choose "Notification Area".
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> apparently
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> oh well
[16:57] <mitsarionas> hi... i have a laptop, and though it's set on dynamic (or powersave) on guidance power manager, /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/throttling says it's on T0
[16:57] <llutz> Moin
[16:57] <mitsarionas> it's not ok is it? :S
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> lo llutz
[17:00] <mitsarionas> any ideas? ...or ideas about where should i ask such stuff?
[17:01] <ct529> I am using amarok on kubuntu 804 .... but the only engine available is xine .... where are the packages for helix for example?
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> mitsarionas: no idea man sorry
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> ct529: http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/MP3_on_Ubuntu_5.10
[17:02] <mitsarionas> :( weird though, isn't it?
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> There is no Helix binary available for Kubuntu, you have to compile amaroK from source with a Real or Helix player installed.
[17:02] <ct529> ActionParsnip: sorry, but helix is definitively available I just installed it
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> ct529: its an old post but i always use xine
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> ct529: http://forums.opensuse.org/archives/sf-archives/tips-tricks-tweaks/322978-suse-install-guide.html
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> ct529: how is helix different?
[17:06] <ct529> ActionParsnip: from what?
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> ct529: xine
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> ct529: why use helix?
[17:06] <ct529> ActionParsnip: I do not know, cannot play bbc with xine ....
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> ct529: oh, ok. just curious. cheers
[17:13] <shadowhywind> hay all having a bit of issues with my firefox3, it keeps crashing with a segmentation fault any ideas?
[17:13] <sacarde> hi
[17:13] <sacarde> I need help for debootstrap
[17:19] <sacarde> I have error:
[17:19] <sacarde> W: Failure trying to run: chroot /mnt/ubuntu mount -t proc proc /proc
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> wassah
[17:22] <dennis_p> SMPlayer rules that´s what´s up :-)
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> !smplayer
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> !info smplayer
[17:24] <dennis_p> It plays the .sub subtitles readable, unlike other players on kubuntu
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> dennis_p: i just use mplayer with a few switches
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> dennis_p: gui does make it easier
[17:33] <Dr_willis> sacarde,  you are running that as 2 seperate commands? ?
[17:34] <sacarde> yes
[17:34] <sacarde> but
[17:34] <sacarde> chroot I have error
[17:34] <sacarde> chroot /mnt/ubuntu
[17:34] <sacarde> chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory
[17:35] <sacarde> in fact there isnot /bin/bash in /mnt/ubuntu
[17:40] <Dr_willis> it would be in /mnt/ubuntu/bin/bash
[17:41] <Dr_willis>  You may need to tell chroot the path to the shell to use.
[17:42] <sacarde> but that file there is not ! in /mnt/ubuntu/bin/bash
[17:42] <Dr_willis> Then you got stuff missing it seems
[17:43] <sacarde> I ?
[17:43] <Dr_willis> try sh, or dash I guess. I dont know whats in your directories.
[17:43] <sacarde> bootstrap have to create environment on target partition !
[17:43] <sacarde> i my directory thereis /bin/bash
[17:44] <sacarde> but no in target partition
[17:44] <Dr_willis> look in /mnt/ubuntu/bin and see what shells are there i guess.
[17:44] <sacarde> cd /mnt/ubuntu
[17:44] <sacarde> [root@localhost ubuntu]# ls
[17:44] <sacarde> boot  debootstrap  dev  etc  var
[17:44] <sacarde> I havent bin
[17:44] <sacarde> debootstrap have create them
[17:45] <Dr_willis> Looks like some setps got skipped in making the chroot enviroment. I have never messed with debootstrap.
[17:46] <Dr_willis> You could copy them over from your current setup I guess
[17:46] <sacarde> oh
[17:46] <sacarde> I try
[17:46] <sacarde> not work
[17:46] <Dr_willis> !debootstrap
[17:46] <Dr_willis> Looks like a deboot strap setup needs to download the various bash deb and other debs. some how.
[17:53] <sebastian_> hi, how do i activate 3d desktop effects? cant find the setting
[17:59] <sebastian_> so no one here knows how to activate 3d effects?
[17:59] <FoxIII> What's the problem sebastian_?
[17:59] <sebastian_> i dont know how to activate the 3d desktop effects
[17:59] <sebastian_> i cant find the settings
[18:00] <FoxIII> Okay. What graphics card have you got?
[18:00] <sebastian_> geforce 4
[18:00] <sebastian_> 440mx
[18:00] <FoxIII> And you have this set up correctly? What output do you get from glxgears ?
[18:02] <sebastian_> i dont know i started it but the weels just keep rolling
[18:02] <muesli> sebastian_: look at console output
[18:03] <sebastian_> ok wait
[18:03] <FoxIII> sebastian_: Try using glxgears -info
[18:03] <sebastian_> 5959 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1191.709 FPS
[18:04] <sebastian_> GL_RENDERER   = GeForce4 MX 440/AGP/SSE2
[18:04] <sebastian_> GL_VERSION    = 1.5.8 NVIDIA 96.43.05
[18:04] <sebastian_> GL_VENDOR     = NVIDIA Corporation
[18:04] <FoxIII> sebastian_: Have you enabled Desktop Effects?
[18:05] <sebastian_> hehe no thats what i said, i cant find the setting where i enable it
[18:05] <sebastian_> its not in system - prefences
[18:06] <mitsarionas> sebastian_: should be on kmenu -> system -> desktop effects
[18:06] <sebastian_> im using ubuntu
[18:06] <sebastian_> maby wrong channel
[18:06] <FoxIII> sebastian_: Try typing desktop-effects or desktop-effects-ke4 in konsole
[18:06] <mitsarionas> oh sorry :S
[18:13] <FoxIII> ubottu !ubuntu | sebastian_
[18:13] <FoxIII> oh, and #ubuntu :)
[18:14] <bjorn_> can someone tell me how to setup my hauppage pvr150 in ubuntu
[18:14] <whileimhere> Hello. Are there any plug ins for Digikam to export to Google images or Kodaks site?
[18:14] <FoxIII> bjorn_: Is that a tv card?
[18:14] <bjorn_> yes fox
[18:15] <FoxIII> ubottu !digikam | whileimhere
[18:15] <whileimhere> Ive asked in the Digikam room 6 times in the last week but I don't think that any of the people there are actully ever at their computer.
[18:16] <ubuntu> bjorn_:  i think there are proprietary drivers... see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186747
[18:16] <ubuntu> the firmware stuff there...
[18:17] <gibbs> scanner hp
[18:17] <FoxIII> bjorn_: Have you tried installing kdetv?
[18:17] <bjorn_> have vlcplayer installed
[18:18] <FoxIII> To be able to use a tv card, you will need software to use it.
[18:20] <gibbs> what softwear
[18:21] <Dr_willis> I use mythtv. :)
[18:21] <Dr_willis> but it depends on what you want to do with the tv tuner card.
[18:21] <shadowbox> How can I get visualations for amarok. I cant get them with adept.
[18:21] <kalorin> ok
[18:21] <gibbs> hp scanner
[18:21] <kalorin> what do you do hwne there are issues with adept that tell you that it wouldn't commit because it might break something?
[18:22] <Dr_willis> !sane
[18:26] <Ash-Fox> Which was the last version of kubuntu that didn't have stack protections in libc?
[18:28] <kubuntero> is anybody using kde4? i've got a problem with my arrow up, and arrow down keys. they don't work :(
[18:29] <FoxIII> kubuntero: #kubuntu-kde4
[18:29] <kangke> hillo
[18:29] <kangke> youyou ren zai ma
[18:43] <regis> Bonsoir à tous
[18:45] <Guest27421> Y 'a du monde ?
[18:45] <mitsarionas> bonsoir mate
[18:45] <mitsarionas> !fr | Guest27421
[18:52] <mitsarionas> does anyone have a problem iwth sound and video after a suspend/resume?
[18:56] <gibbs> what is name of linux tv
[18:56] <dennis_p> viewer or recorder?
[18:56] <gibbs> viewer
[18:57] <dennis_p> tvtime is only a viewer
[18:57] <dennis_p> TVtime
[18:57] <llutz> or kdetv
[18:58] <Dr_willis> some of the other video players I think can work as a
[18:58] <Dr_willis> 'viewer' also
[18:58] <gibbs> i have hauppauge
[18:58] <gibbs> card
[18:59] <gibbs> pvr150
[19:00] <gibbs> may be recorder
[19:00] <Dr_willis> My PVR150 works very well under Mythbuntu,
[19:00] <gibbs> thanks
[19:01] <dennis_p> ah that one can be viewed without install if you know the frequency of the wanted channel
[19:02] <dennis_p> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3085164.0
[19:03] <dennis_p> has info to check if your tv card works out of the box
[19:12] <jabba> sigh. sometimes running on the bleeding edge of your linux distribution is a pain in the butt :(
[19:14] <tony_> Dr_willis, i have a PVR150 on kubuntu. is there a good guide that you followed?
[19:14] <tony_> i had it working on a previous install but ran into a database or something error
[19:18] <ubunturos> I installed Kubuntu to a USB disk, with my disk on the laptop also accessible. Kubuntu installed a boot loader to the laptop's disk and I cannot boot into the laptop without the USB disk. How do I boot without the USB disk
[19:18] <ubunturos> ?
[19:18] <ubunturos> USB hard disk.
[19:20] <solifugus> OK--since ubuntu's VirtualBox packages are broken and not getting fixed, is there an other easy to use VM solution avalable?
[19:21] <goshawk> solifugus: maybe download VirtualBox from wirtualbox.org?
[19:21] <goshawk> virtualbox.org
[19:21] <dwidmann> Well, you either need to put the /boot partition on the laptop disk, or install grub to the USB disk MBR ubunturos and simultaneously isntall something to the MBR of the laptop disk so it can be booted without the drive
[19:21] <dwidmann> solifugus: vmware?
[19:21] <goshawk> -__-
[19:21] <ubunturos> dwidmann: what would that "something to the MBR of laptop" be?
[19:22] <dwidmann> ubunturos: well, what OS's are on the laptop drive?
[19:22] <ubunturos> dwidmann: just windows
[19:22] <ubunturos> Media center
[19:22] <ubunturos> that came pre-installed
[19:22] <dwidmann> ubunturos: you'll need the recovery disk for that solution then
[19:22] <ubunturos> dwidmann: hmm, let me find that out. Must be around
[19:24] <dwidmann> when it boots you need to select rescue and it'll give you a dos shell, in which you type fdisk /mbr
[19:24] <ubunturos> dwidmann: looks like DELL didn't give me a rescue disk
[19:24] <ubunturos> :(
[19:24] <ubunturos> dwidmann: does a "System Resotre" help?
[19:25] <dwidmann> probably not
[19:25] <ubunturos> s/resotre / restore
[19:25] <solifugus> dwidmann:  I am using VMware Workstation for work-related work..  but I don't own and should not mix my own work with my work's work.. and I am not ready to fork out the money for my own license to VMware Workstation.
[19:25] <dwidmann> solifugus: vmware server = free (as in beer)
[19:25] <solifugus> dwidmann:  and, vmware server is fine for servers but only supports one snapshot at a time and has slow desktop performance..  I need particularly the snapshot tree.
[19:26] <solifugus> virtualbox has the full snapshot tree.. it's almost a carbon copy of VMware workstation
[19:26] <dwidmann> I'm sure it's intended to be, sounds useful
[19:27] <solifugus> goshawk: Here's the problem with virtualbox.org's download for ubuntu--installing it says it has an unsatisfied dependency, libssl0.9.8 (which is, in fact, installed)
[19:27] <stdin> ubunturos: sometimes the system restore option (from the BIOS screen) will let you get to a dos prompt, if it does that you can run the command from there
[19:27] <ubunturos> dwidmann: I have a trick. I'll boot into Kubuntu, edit the bootloader config, and make it boot Windows, default without a timer, would that work?
[19:28] <ubunturos> stdin: hmm, I need to find out that
[19:28] <dwidmann> ubunturos: with the timer disabled it will just sit there waiting for you to do something
[19:28] <dwidmann> ubunturos: this might be useful: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/winxp-fixmbr-dos-fdisk-mbr-178571/
[19:29] <ubunturos> dwidmann: The only problem is that I don't have a rescue disc. I might have to try stdin's suggestion
[19:30] <ubunturos> will be back
[19:31] <goshawk> solifugus: there are two version of virtualbox, one in repository one not
[19:32] <goshawk> what are you tying to install?
[19:32] <Guest13445> hjhg
[19:32] <aib> can I uninstall kde3 in a single command without damaging my kde4 install?
[19:33] <dwidmann> aib: I can't say that I'd recommend removing all of kde3, but if you removed kdebase and kdelibs that would probably drag everything else along with it
[19:33] <aib> why wouldn't you recommend it
[19:33] <dwidmann> There are still quite the handful of apps that haven't been ported
[19:34] <dwidmann> Ie: networkmanager, k3b, konversation, etc
[19:34] <kyncani> aib: you can use debfoster to remove a package with its dependencies
[19:34] <michael_> I'm having a lot of trouble getting a wifi card to work
[19:34] <aib> is there a list of stuff that still needs to be ported?
[19:34] <dwidmann> somewhere, I forget where it is
[19:35] <michael_> anyone familiar w/ ndiswrapper
[19:35] <NickPresta> michael_, what about it?
[19:35] <Ballena> What is the difference between an 'argument' and a 'parameter' for a linux command?
[19:35] <michael_> here's my problem
[19:35] <dwidmann> http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/Application_Porting_Status
[19:35] <dwidmann> probably
[19:35] <michael_> i install the driver and confirm the isntallation with "ndiswrapper -l"
[19:36] <michael_> then run modprobe ndiswrapper
[19:36] <michael_> but my card still isn't listed under iwconfig
[19:36] <michael_> what gives?
[19:36] <NickPresta> michael_, which card is it?
[19:38] <solifugus> how can i install a local .deb package file from the command line, forcing even though it thinks its missing a dependency?
[19:38] <solifugus> I am not seeing this in the apt-get man page..
[19:38] <aib> i installed kde4 and am using it now. my alt key has been mapped to control. so alt-b doesn't work in readline, and alt-tab don't work, for example.
[19:39] <aib> where can I change this setting? it's driving me nuts
[19:39] <stdin> solifugus: you use dpkg to install .deb files
[19:39] <stdin> !deb
[19:39] <stdin> or "sudo dpkg -i file.deb"
[19:40] <michael_> it is a D-link DWL-650 card
[19:44] <michael_> does anyone know why my card isn't in iwconfig
[19:45] <minhaaj> how do i back up my ubuntu ?
[19:45] <NickPresta> !backup | minhaaj
[19:45] <minhaaj> which one is the easiest ? i dont want to lose anything. its exactly the way i want it
[19:45] <minhaaj> i am very happy with my configs
[19:46] <NickPresta> minhaaj, I don't know what sort of situation you have. If you want to backup your settings exclusively, the HomeUserBackup article should work fine
[19:46] <minhaaj> i have used home user back up
[19:47] <minhaaj> it wont restore
[19:47] <minhaaj> back is just fine
[19:47] <minhaaj> i just need my configurations and settings and desktop settings to be saved and my themes installed
[19:47] <minhaaj> i have already backed up packages by aptoncd
[19:48] <dwidmann> aib: I would use xmodmap to fix the alt key problem
[19:51] <aib> dwidmann, i think i've narrowed it down to konsole, possibly. my alt-tab actually seems to work. i opened KDE3/Konsole and Alt-f/Alt-b are mapped to word-left and word-right as they should be, but KDE4/Konsole intercepts Alt instead of sending it to my shell
[19:51] <aib> i can't find Konsole options for this anywhere.
[19:53] <aib> i have no special settings btw. i recently deleted .kde and .kde4
[20:01] <Pollywog> how do I manually mount a CD (no not audio) without using KDE to do it?
[20:02] <Pollywog> the old way does not work
[20:03] <stdin> "mount /media/cdrom0" does not work?
[20:04] <Pollywog> no, it doesn't
[20:04] <Pollywog> odd, I know
[20:04] <llutz> sudo mount /dev/scd0 /mnt
[20:04] <Pollywog> that might work
[20:04] <stdin> check your /etc/fstab entry, make sure it has the right device
[20:04] <Pollywog> I don't know where the scd0 comes from it is not in fstab
[20:04] <Pollywog> but it might work
[20:05] <stdin> scd0 is usually the 1st CD or DVD drive
[20:05] <Pollywog> my fstab looks fine
[20:05] <Pollywog> not /dev/hdc
[20:05] <Pollywog> ?
[20:05] <stdin> it should be something like "/dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec 0       0"
[20:06] <stdin> the hdX names should all be sdX names from kernel 2.6.20 on
[20:06] <stdin> and cd/dvd drives will be scdX
[20:06] <Pollywog> k
[20:06] <Pollywog> ty
[20:06] <Pollywog> maybe I need to change my fstab then
[20:06] <Pollywog> :)
[20:07] <llutz> Pollywog: " ls -l /dev/scd? "  should show at least scd0
[20:08] <Pollywog> yes it does but that is not in fstab
[20:08] <Pollywog> fstab has the old hdc
[20:13] <l815> how come i have audio issues with kubuntu kde4 that dont occur with ubuntu?
[20:13] <Pollywog> llutz: ty that worked once I fixed fstab
[20:19] <elliott> in kate in intrepid, is there a way to force the program to treat parenthesis separately from other text when doing syntax hilighting? Kate in pervious kde3 versions of kubuntu classified them separetely, allowing you to give them a different color than surrounding text
[20:19] <elliott> but it classified them as plain text in intrepid, making reading code harder for me
[20:21] <Randuni> sup all?
[20:21] <Randuni> I just have a quick question, I wish to boot the kubuntu live cd and use partimage
[20:21] <Randuni> does kubuntu have partimage available in it's repository?
[20:22] <Randuni> is there a way that I can find out?
[20:22] <l815> what's the tool for gtk apps to look proper on kubuntu?
[20:23] <elliott> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=partimage
[20:23] <Randuni> okay..thanks elliott
[20:23] <user1> how can i upgrade to the latest distro by adept ?
[20:24] <llutz> Randuni: maybe try clonezilla, partimage is ... buggy (imho)
[20:24] <Randuni> thanks llutz
[20:25] <elliott> user1: what do you want to upgrade from to?
[20:25] <elliott> that made more sense in my head, what are you currently uning and what do you want to upgrade to?
[20:26] <user1> elliott:  i dont know. how can i check wich version i have
[20:26] <user1> elliott:  i want to upgradte to the latest version
[20:26] <llutz> user1: lsb_release -a
[20:28] <user1> 7.04 feisty\
[20:28] <user1> i have 7.04 feisty. how do i upgrade to the latest. i think its 7.10 ?
[20:28] <djdarkman> can someone recommend me a good webcame capturing program? for thaking photos?
[20:29] <elliott> the latest is 8.04
[20:29] <user1> oh
[20:29] <user1> k
[20:29] <elliott> the easiest way is to run adept manager, click "update", and you should see a "version upgrade" button to the right above the package list
[20:29] <elliott> you'll have to do it twice though
[20:30] <user1> i cant see version upgrade
[20:30] <Hondo_Kitsune> 8.04.1 hardy is the latest
[20:30] <minhaaj> !backup
[20:32] <user1> how to upgrade by command line?
[20:32] <tictric> aptitude update && aptitude upgrade
[20:33] <llutz> that wouldn't perform a version-upgrade without changing sources
[20:34] <lakis1982> hii. i have download some rar files that are like : xxxx.part1.rar  xxx.part2.rar etc ... and they have password ... i try to open them with ark   but it ives me error..and as i have read ark cant handle with password protected rar files.... is this right ??? do u know any software  like ark that can open password protected files of type .zip    .tar    .rar    etc ???
[20:34] <tictric> ok then dist-upgrade
[20:34] <llutz> tictric: nope
[20:34] <llutz> lakis1982: unrar x file..rar
[20:35] <tictric> llutz: ? sorry just saw the _how to upgrade by command line
[20:35] <llutz> tictric: he wants a version-upgrade feisty->hardy
[20:35] <lakis1982> it says no such file or directory
[20:36] <llutz> lakis1982: unrar x /path/to/file..rar
[20:36] <tictric> oh, better shut my mouth then and read before I answer ...
[20:36] <lakis1982> i dont understand
[20:37] <minhaaj> http://imagebin.ca/view/RY25tB.html
[20:37] <llutz> lakis1982: change into the directory you saved the files in. then unrar x xxx.file.rar
[20:37] <minhaaj> check out my gnome desktop
[20:37] <minhaaj> its aweeeeeesome
[20:37] <lakis1982> i did it
[20:37] <lakis1982> but dosnt do anything
[20:38] <elliott> user1: you can upgrade by doing something like 'sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list', saving a backup, and then doing a find-and-replace to replace all instances of 'feisty' with 'hardy', then save and close
[20:38] <elliott> then do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:39] <minhaaj> if i back up my home directory would it be sufficient to get my ubuntu to work fine ? since i have backed up all packages on aptoncd ?
[20:39] <llutz> lakis1982: paste output of that command to pastebin plz
[20:39] <llutz> !pastebin | lakis1982
[20:41] <jill> my kaffeine always show error when i use double click on avi file?
[20:41] <Hondo_Kitsune> jill: do you have the correct codec
[20:42] <llutz> minhaaj: no need to backup packages, just a list of them (dpkg --get-selections) and your sources.list. also a backup of /etc might be usefull
[20:42] <Hondo_Kitsune> is it an AVI or a DiVX
[20:43] <jill> вщуыте ьфееук
[20:43] <jill> 1 фтв 2 мфкшфтеы
[20:43] <jill> фдцфны
[20:43] <Hondo_Kitsune> jill: english?
[20:43] <jill> always
[20:43] <jill> divx and avi
[20:44] <Hondo_Kitsune> so it is a DiVX AVI file
[20:44] <jill> always syas that codacs are downloaded
[20:44] <Hondo_Kitsune> hmm
[20:44] <Hondo_Kitsune> could be the file
[20:44] <Hondo_Kitsune> have you tested other AVIs
[20:44] <jill> no
[20:44] <jill> yea
[20:44] <jill> i am
[20:44] <jill> but
[20:44] <jill> if
[20:44] <jill> if i open it from kafeine menu
[20:44] <jill> it is works good
[20:44] <jill> without questions
[20:45] <jill> but if i click on file
[20:45] <llutz> !enter| jill
[20:45] <jill> iokay
[20:45] <Hondo_Kitsune> then there is no problem, probably just a bug. Keep updating Kaffeine using adept or synaptic and it should eventually sort itself out
[20:46] <jhutchins_wk> jill: Meanwhile try mplayer or vnc.
[20:47] <Hondo_Kitsune> ahh, jhutchins has a point, try an alternate player
[20:47] <jill> mplayer works
[20:47] <jill> but i love kafeine
[20:48] <Hondo_Kitsune> As i said, just keep updating it
[20:54] <lakis1982> isnt there any program like winrar  with gui
[20:54] <lakis1982> ?
[21:00] <giuseppe> hi, how can I update my distro Gutsy?
[21:00] <minhaaj> giuseppe:  type apt-get install dist-upgrade
[21:01] <minhaaj> :)
[21:01] <minhaaj> or apt-get install update
[21:01] <minhaaj> you want to update or upgrade ?
[21:01] <minhaaj> or do the distribution update ?
[21:01] <giuseppe> update
[21:02] <minhaaj> apt-get install update
[21:02] <giuseppe> Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[21:02] <minhaaj> you do you have adept-get open ?
[21:03] <giuseppe> yes, you are right
[21:03] <minhaaj> shut it down first
[21:03] <minhaaj> :)
[21:03] <giuseppe> minhaaj: sorry, but if I upgrade, what will I upgrade? Full distro?
[21:03] <minhaaj> nope
[21:03] <minhaaj> just gutsy
[21:04] <minhaaj> for full distro apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:04] <minhaaj> install between them
[21:04] <minhaaj> :)
[21:04] <giuseppe> minhaaj: does it mean kernel??
[21:04] <minhaaj> yes it updates kernel
[21:05] <giuseppe> minhaaj: well, now appears: impossible finding dist-upgrade
[21:05] <minhaaj> sorry the command was sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:06] <giuseppe> minhaaj: 0 updated, 0 installed, 0 removed
[21:06] <giuseppe> minhaaj: is it normal????
[21:06] <minhaaj> yep
[21:06] <minhaaj> :)
[21:06] <minhaaj> you are already up to date
[21:07] <minhaaj> do you want to do hardy ?
[21:07] <giuseppe> minhaaj: yes!
[21:07] <minhaaj> hmm
[21:07] <minhaaj> hang on
[21:07] <proprietarysucks> how can I burn an img file ?
[21:07] <mkultras> hey i was trying to backup my home folder so i mounted this usb drive and then copied the folder with cp -r -p * /backupdrive but it missed all the folders starting with a .
[21:08] <tictric> proprietarysucks: from k3b
[21:08] <mkultras> should i try copying them with dolphin or something instead you think
[21:08] <proprietarysucks> k3b doesn't find img files
[21:08] <llutz> mkultras: use "cp -a ...."
[21:09] <giuseppe> minhaaj: are you able to do it?
[21:12] <tictric> proprietarysucks: I'm not sure but give it a try and rename img to iso
[21:12] <tictric> It's basically the same
[21:13] <Bocasecaman> Hi, i have a problem, my videos with AC3 sound voices are too low but the ambient sound is perfect, why?
[21:13] <Bocasecaman> sorry for my english
[21:17] <orjan> hello
[21:18] <_2> what is needed to get acpi support to work on ati chips in dapper drake ?   or can someone point me in the right dirrection there?
[21:19] <user1> when i upgrade from fiesty. it ties to go to gutsy. not to hardy. how can i do it for hardy?
[21:19] <proprietarysucks> tictric: no it's not the same at all
[21:19] <proprietarysucks> in some cases it is
[21:19] <proprietarysucks> anyways I've found the solution, which is poweriso converter
[21:19] <_2> user1 i don't believe that one step upgrading from fiesty to hardy is supported
[21:19] <tictric> proprietarysucks: Sometimes it works
[21:21] <_2> sensors-detect reports     Sorry, no chips were detected.
[21:22] <_2> E: /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature missing
[21:23] <gizmobay> I'm looking to encrypt a directory. Would truecrypt be my best option?
[21:25] <kalorin> I've got an error on reboot where it pops up a window saying "no command arguements supplied!, usage: kdesudo [ -u <runas> ] <command> KdeSudo will now exit...
[21:25] <kalorin> if I close that window everything goes away and I'm left wiht a black screen with a mouse pointer
[21:25] <kalorin> if I leave it up there, things work ok and the window stays
[21:25] <user1> when i upgrade from fiesty. it ties to go to gutsy. not to hardy. how can i do it for hardy?
[21:25] <kalorin> anyone ever seen that?
[21:26] <kalorin> user1, not sure you can go directly
[21:26] <kalorin> might have to do an intermediate upgrade
[21:26] <mkultras> hey you can go from dapper to hardy though
[21:26] <mkultras> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades#Upgrade from 6.06 LTS to 8.04 LTS
[21:27] <mkultras> i did that procedure and it worked out well
[21:27] <mkultras> on a server
[21:27] <jessejazza>   what is the best way to format a remote hard drive for backup purposes and use on windows and ubuntu. I used gparted - but i wanted to check for bad sectors so what can i do?
[21:27] <_2> user1 change the key word fiesty to hardy in your /etc/apt/sources.list  run apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade as root   and when it break don't call us.  we have told you that one step upgrading from fiesty to hardy is not supported.
[21:27] <mkultras> the only thing i had a problem was java disappeared i think
[21:29] <_2> "<mkultras> hey you can go from dapper to hardy though" <<<  mkultras and it usually breaks too.
[21:31] <_2> jessejazza badblocks
[21:33] <jessejazza> _2: badblocks?
[21:33] <_2> yeah
[21:33] <jessejazza> name of a package?
[21:33] <_2> no an app
[21:33] <engineer> rpedro por aqui?
[21:33] <jessejazza> i've just looked it up
[21:35] <_2> jessejazza short answer is use "mke2fs -jc /dev/devicenode" where ever you want an ext3 filesystem   and yes windows can access ext#  there are drivers online
[21:36] <jessejazza> _2: is that better than FAT32?
[21:36] <_2> the -c will tell mke2fs to first run badblocks on the device and then use it's output to "skip" any bad blocks it finds.
[21:37] <_2> jessejazza better ?    heh   well do you want my openion or are you asking a polling question ?
[21:37] <_2> of course it's better,  it's a real file system,   vfat is not.
[21:39] <jessejazza> -2: a balanced opinion! can't find mke2fs - which repo?
[21:40] <_2> vfat has no permissions bits uses fat=file allocation tables rather than redundant superblocks and is not a "journalizing filesystem"   vfat fragments files and requires defrag ext3 doesn't "per'se" and so forth.    repo ?   "which mke2fs"
[21:40] <_2> or "man mke2fs"
[21:40]  * meow finally got kubuntu + vmware + ati drivers + firewall config up :o)
[21:41] <meow> thanks for all your help
[21:41] <llutz> also ext2/3 fragments, not like vfat but it still does.
[21:41] <meow> now all i need is a good scriptable irc client. any recommendations?
[21:41] <llutz> irssi
[21:41] <engineer> mirc
[21:42] <meow> i'm using mirc now, engineer, and it's eating up 10% of my cpu
[21:42] <engineer> 1-2% here
[21:42] <engineer> 12mb of ram
[21:42] <meow> and there are a couple of gui bugs which really annoy me
[21:42] <_2> jessejazza one thing that vfat might be better about than ext# fs     it's made for a constantly rebooting system and wont complain about not being uncleanly dismounted.
[21:43] <_2> that doesn't mean you can power off durring a disk write without errors by any means.
[21:43] <meow> llutz: anything with a graphical interface?
[21:44] <engineer> xchat
[21:44] <llutz> irc = chat= text = why gui? :)
[21:44] <_2> bx for the win
[21:45] <Van_NistelRooy> hi all
[21:45] <Pepcok^PotLS> hi, is enyone using Konversation and do sb know if there's an "auto re-join when kicked" option?
[21:45] <kalorin> I don't get "kicked"
[21:45] <psyco> XD
[21:46] <Pepcok^PotLS> I know but somethimes it happens :_
[21:46] <Pepcok^PotLS> so does sb know?
[21:46] <_2> Pepcok^PotLS i'm not using konvo but why are you getting kicked out of channels ?    and better still why would you want to go back to some place that you know you are not wanted ?
[21:47] <Pepcok^PotLS> it's because somethimes we kick each other for fun :) and i'mnot joking
[21:47] <_2> i mean that's begging for a ban
[21:47] <_2> hmmm odd practice.
[21:47] <Pepcok^PotLS> no it's just channel for friends and somethimes we kick each other but it's not serious
[21:47] <Van_NistelRooy> can i emulator visual studio 6 in the wine
[21:47] <_2> "some people get their jollys in the strangest ways"
[21:48] <Pepcok^PotLS> ok other question
[21:48] <Pepcok^PotLS> what is the best way to bring my playlist saved on winamp to Ubuntu?
[21:49] <Pepcok^PotLS> which program would be the best?
[21:49] <kubuntero> Pepcok^PotLS: The playlist it self?
[21:49] <_2> doesn't amarok have a playlist inport function ?
[21:49] <kubuntero> Just open it. almost all programs read m3u
[21:49] <Pepcok^PotLS> yes i has, but it doesn;t open files which are in catalogs
[21:50] <Pepcok^PotLS> for example I have in win my mp3 files in E:/Music
[21:50] <Pepcok^PotLS> and in Music I have many catalogues
[21:50] <Pepcok^PotLS> but when I import playlist to amarok
[21:51] <Pepcok^PotLS> it reads only files from E:/Music
[21:51] <Pepcok^PotLS> nnot from E:/Music/xxx
[21:51] <Pepcok^PotLS> where xxx is catalogue
[21:51] <Pepcok^PotLS> so can sb help me?
[21:51] <tom__> Pepcok^PotLS: mount windows partition and drag-and-drop from dolphin to amarok
[21:52] <tom__> worked for me
[21:52] <kubuntero> What's a catalogue?
[21:52] <Van_NistelRooy> help me peoples...
[21:52] <Pepcok^PotLS> i forgot a word
[21:52] <Van_NistelRooy> can i emulator visual studio 6 in the wine
[21:52] <Pepcok^PotLS> if you have E:/Music
[21:52] <Pepcok^PotLS> Music is catalogue
[21:52] <kubuntero> http://appdb.winehq.org
[21:53] <kubuntero> Pepcok^PotLS: And amarok does not import it? Go to Amarok settings -> Collection
[21:53] <kubuntero> and add Music
[21:53] <kubuntero> it will import all
[21:54] <Van_NistelRooy> kubuntero, this message is to me
[21:56] <orkid> i don't know if this is the right channel, but i just installed kde-core and xorg on a minimal system and am looking for things that might be useful (ie. automount usb keys, keystore [ssh keys], etc)... but i'm not sure which packages i need (ie. which hal/dbus things i need, pmount, etc). is there a webpage that might have a list of interesting and useful packages
[21:56] <orkid> ?
[21:56] <orkid> tx in advance
[22:04] <keith_> orkid try #kde
[22:05] <orkid> i did, but i thought it was the wrong channel, since it's ubuntu related
[22:05] <meow> well each package is useful and interesting in it's way
[22:05] <compilerwriter> #kubuntu is also ubuntue related orkid.
[22:05] <meow> there are thousands of packages for ubuntu
[22:06] <orkid> hmmm. i also don't have sound :S
[22:06] <compilerwriter> orkid it is the kde branch of ubuntu
[22:06] <compilerwriter> #kde is for kde in general orkid
[22:06] <orkid> yes... so i thought people here would know more about what packages are involved
[22:06] <bomber> linux from scratch might be helpful too "lfs"
[22:07] <orkid> i'm more curious as to what packages i would need to install for getting automount of usb drives for example, or sound
[22:07] <bomber> might point you towards the right packages
[22:07] <compilerwriter> orkid to tell you the truth most of those pacakages are already in the ubuntu base install.  I can't be much help there.  I thought you were looking for kde specific stuff.
[22:08] <orkid> also, anyone know why aptitude pulls in way more packages than apt-get ? apt-get install firefox wants only a few while aptitude wants around 50... does aptitude pull in the recommended pakages or something?
[22:08] <orkid> well, i did the server install... i'll have a look around packages.ubuntu.com
[22:08] <llutz> orkid: it does
[22:08] <uwe__> uuh
[22:08] <orkid> but sometimes even the package titles make it hard to decipher what's needed
[22:08] <llutz> orkid: use aptitude -R
[22:08] <orkid> llutz: what's the way to disable this?
[22:08] <orkid> tx :)
[22:09] <llutz> set :    Aptitude::Recommends-Important "false";  in ~/.aptitude/config
[22:09] <Pepcok^PotLS> I've just instaled programm by using console, how can I open it now??
[22:09] <llutz> that makes it permanent
[22:09] <dave11> my sound keeps defaulting to the wrong sound device, how can I lock it down to a certain device?
[22:12] <dave11> !sound
[22:14] <joga> I just installed kubuntu hardy today, and noticed now when setting up a color prompt that I got a ~/.bashrc telling me to uncomment '#force_colored_prompt=yes', but it actually checks the value of '$force_color_prompt' (thus failing). /etc/skel/.bashrc seems to be correct though, why would this be?
[22:16] <Pepcok^PotLS> i've just installed programme but it's not in my "Applications", what's oter wa to open it?
[22:18] <joga> well, I guess the .bashrc thing was fixed after I installed the updates..
[22:25] <ksal> hi
[22:25] <ksal> i've got a problem with my GF 7300 card
[22:26] <engineer> explain the problem
[22:26] <ksal> i install nvidia-new drivers package for it
[22:26] <ksal> and when i restart my computer
[22:26] <ksal> it seems not to recognize card or my monitor
[22:27] <engineer> sudo nvidia-xconfig
[22:27] <ksal> i don't have acceleration and resolution of my screen is 640x4809 max
[22:27] <engineer> restart X server
[22:27] <bomber> there is also a autoconfig package for the nvidia cards too
[22:28] <bomber> there yah go..listen to engineer
[22:28] <ksal> are you sure?
[22:28] <ksal> ok
[22:28] <y5shin> hello world
[22:28]  * bomber world
[22:28] <bomber> woops
[22:28] <ksal> :)
[22:29] <tonky> hi guys. i'm connected to dlink wifi router, and router is plugged to dsl modem which is connected to internet. how can i find out the ip of wifi router to access it through http and configure it?
[22:29] <fitoria> hello
[22:29] <y5shin> ip of the router? like as in the admin page?
[22:29] <fitoria> Is there Java plugin for 64bits?
[22:29] <engineer> what's the netmask you're using?
[22:29] <engineer> fitoria no
[22:30] <engineer> 192.168.1.254 if your ip is a class C
[22:30] <tonky> yes y5shin, it used to be 192.168.0.50, but not responding. not even after wifi router reset.
[22:30] <engineer> or 192.168.1.1
[22:30] <y5shin> i would go with 192.168.1.1 for dlink
[22:30] <engineer> tonky check your gateway
[22:30] <bomber> or 192.168.0.1
[22:30] <engineer> it should be that one
[22:30] <tonky> engineer: 1.1 is dsl modem ip, neither 1.254 or 0.1 are responding
[22:31] <engineer> what's your ip
[22:31] <tonky> 1.10, dhcp by dsl
[22:31] <y5shin> exit
[22:31] <engineer> check your gateway
[22:31] <engineer> it should be that ip
[22:32] <bomber> also shouldnt you have to configure it via a rj45 connect and not wifi?
[22:33] <tonky> bomber: if used to work for me over wifi before
[22:33] <ksal> so hi again
[22:33] <ksal> it didn't help me
[22:33] <ksal> i checked xorg.conf
[22:34] <tonky> how do i check my gateway? route? default         192.168.1.1     0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 wlan0
[22:34] <ksal> tonky: ifconfig
[22:34] <ksal> ?
[22:34] <tonky> ksal: what exactly should i look for in ifconfig to be a gateway?
[22:35] <engineer> ksal ping 255.255.255.255 -b
[22:35] <ksal> so i checked it and as Monitor Identifier I have  ' Configured Monitor' and as my GPU I have 'Configured Video Device
[22:35] <engineer> oops
[22:35] <engineer> that was to tomsku
[22:35] <ksal> :)
[22:35] <tonky> :)
[22:35] <engineer> ksal
[22:35] <engineer> glxinfo | grep rendering
[22:35] <fitoria> Hi
[22:35] <engineer> nicaragua?
[22:36] <fitoria> engineer: yes :)
[22:36] <ksal> engineer: it says 'yes'
[22:36] <tonky> engineer: no reply from ping 255.255.255.255 -b
[22:36] <engineer> ksal then the drivers are working
[22:36] <engineer> tonky it pings my gateway here
[22:36] <tonky> lucky you :)
[22:36] <engineer> you router
[22:36] <ksal> engineer: ok, but why I can't use correct resolution?
[22:36] <engineer> must be blocking broadcast pings
[22:37] <ksal> I only can have 640x480 and lower
[22:37] <fitoria> How do I find out what urls apt-get install will use for the .debs pkg downloads/
[22:37] <fitoria> ?
[22:37] <engineer> cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:37] <engineer> check the uncommented lines
[22:38] <ksal> fitoria: or you can check it in synaptic, i suppose
[22:38] <engineer> ksal are higher resolutions listed in xorg,xonf?
[22:38] <fitoria> engineer: I know that but for example I do an apt-get install foo How do I find the urls to download the .debs?
[22:38] <engineer> fitoria it's in the file
[22:39] <engineer> the packages are in dirs inside those urls
[22:39] <ksal> engineer: in 'Modes' i have 'nvidia-auto-select;
[22:40] <ksal> engineer: i'll try to put there something better....
[22:40] <engineer> ~pastebin
[22:41] <engineer> !pastebin
[22:42] <ksal> engineer: you didn't understand me ;) i mean that i'll write some better resolution in xxorg.conf
[22:42] <ksal> ;)
[22:42] <engineer> ksal http://paste.ubuntu.com/24813/
[22:42] <fitoria> engineer: great :)
[22:42] <ksal> thx
[22:43] <ksal> i know xorg.conf a bit already
[22:43] <ksal> ok, lets try it
[22:47] <veronica__> ls
[22:47] <Walzmyn> OK, my buddy tells me there is a pidgin update in the repos, but I'm not seeing it, even after a refresh, what am i doing wrong?
[22:47] <tonky_> re. so i connected wifi box directly, and got ip 169.254.6.19, and nothing ligical wasn't responding, like 1.1, or 1.0, or 0.50 etc. any other ideas on how to find my wifi box ip?
[22:49] <ksal> umm, so it doesn't work
[22:49] <NickPresta> !info pidgin | Walzmyn
[22:53] <Pepcok^PotLS> which command let me uninstall programs ?
[22:53] <Pepcok^PotLS> sudo unistall xxx?
[22:53] <Pepcok^PotLS> xxx - program
[22:54] <ksal> sudo apt-get remove xxx
[22:54] <Ballena> How do I get the current timestamp? I want to use it in a bash script.
[22:54] <meow> Ballena: date
[22:55] <Walzmyn> NickPresta, I know what pidgin is. There's supposed to be an update to fix this server issue, but i'm not seeing any updates in the repo
[22:55] <meow> Pepcok^PotLS: apt-get remove <package>
[22:56] <danon> potzebuje pomocy .
[22:56] <danon> ak chcem podłaczyc aparat to niby go wyszukuje ale zdjec niema co jest ?
[22:56] <danon>  
[22:56] <danon> pisze cos tam ze nierozpoznano urzadzenia
[22:56] <NickPresta> Walzmyn, that is the latest version in the repos (http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/net/pidgin) I don't know what update your friend is talking about (is he running Ubuntu)
[22:57] <Walzmyn> NickPresta, he's using xubuntu
[22:58] <FoxIII> ubottu !poland | danon
[22:59] <Pepcok^PotLS> #ubuntu-pl
[22:59] <Pepcok^PotLS> sry
[23:01] <NickPresta> Walzmyn, they use the same standard repos. Get him to do: `dpkg -l | grep pidgin` see what version of pidgin he really has installed
[23:11] <toxic_> hi
[23:11] <toxic_> im totally new to kubuntu :/
[23:11] <toxic_> i just found it installed on my pc
[23:11] <toxic_> where should i start? :D
[23:12] <toxic_> i want to install eclipse ;/
[23:13] <stuq> toxic_: sudo aptitude install eclipse should do it
[23:13] <toxic_> stuq: i need the jre first i think
[23:14] <toxic_> i have the rpm file downladed from java
[23:14] <stuq> toxic_: if it needs it, the dependacies should come along for the ride
[23:14] <NickPresta> toxic_, Kubuntu doesn't use RPMs. It uses DEBs (.deb)
[23:14] <toxic_> is there no chance to handle rpms?
[23:14] <NickPresta> toxic_, you can use Adept to install Eclipse and any associated files it needs
[23:15] <stuq> toxic_: once you start using debs, you won't really want rpm's
[23:15] <NickPresta> anything that you could find packaged as an RPM is either available as a deb or can be found in the repos already :)
[23:15] <toxic_> ok ;)
[23:15] <NickPresta> !repos
[23:15] <stuq> but there are utilities to convert them that sort of work
[23:16] <toxic_> now if i type "eclipse" this happens:
[23:16] <toxic_> Gtk Warning  cannot open displays
[23:17] <toxic_>  KDE-Hilfezentrum
[23:17] <toxic_> Kubuntu Documents
[23:17] <toxic_> Kubuntu Release Notes
[23:17] <toxic_> About Kubuntu
[23:17] <toxic_> Kubuntu Desktop Guide
[23:17] <toxic_> Ubuntu Packaging Guide
[23:17] <NickPresta> toxic_, stop pasting
[23:17] <toxic_> Ubuntu Server Guide
[23:17] <toxic_> Willkommen bei KDE
[23:17] <toxic_> KDE-Benutzerhandbuch
[23:17] <NickPresta> if you have large amounts of text you want to shre with us, you can use a pastebin
[23:17] <toxic_> Programm-Handbücher
[23:17] <toxic_> Handbücher zu Miniprogrammen (Applets)
[23:17] <toxic_> Kontrollzentrum-Module
[23:17] <toxic_> lol
[23:17] <toxic_> what happend
[23:17] <toxic_> sorry
[23:17] <toxic_> NickPresta: i didnt want to do this :D
[23:18] <toxic_> i was just copying one line and it copied more.. i duno why :D
[23:18] <toxic_> im sorry
[23:18] <NickPresta> its okay. so did eclipse install?
[23:19] <toxic_> i dunno  he did a lot of things ;)
[23:19] <geraldo_> que talco
[23:19] <aga> hi after long long time windows using i instaled kubuntu 6.06 my first ever linux success install i have many questions now i hope i can ask here freely
[23:19] <NickPresta> well, how did you install eclipse? through Konsole?
[23:19] <NickPresta> !es | geraldo_
[23:20] <NickPresta> aga, we're here to help
[23:20] <toxic_> i really like you guys :D
[23:20] <aga> is there any need to upgrade kubuntu 6.06 to version 8?
[23:20] <toxic_> i think this time i will REALLY switch to linux (kubuntu) ..
[23:21] <ksal> can anyone help me?
[23:21] <NickPresta> aga, I think it is possible, although I'm not 100% sure. Out of curiosity, why didn't you install 8.04 from the getgo?
[23:21] <ksal> aga: lepiej to zrob :)
[23:21] <aga> did not go to official site untill to late
[23:21] <aga> i was on linux .org and 6.6 was there ^^
[23:22] <ksal> haha, really? on your place i would upgrade to 8
[23:22] <toxic_> what does Gtk-Warning:  cannot open display mean?
[23:23] <aga> i have no clue how i fix internet i was left right and boom it worked and i have no clue what i did lol
[23:23] <ksal> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24826/ - here is my xorg.conf . can someone check what is wrong and why i can't change resolution to higher than 640x480 ?
[23:24] <toxic_> ksal: i have a same problem like you ;) i'd like to switch to 16xx*1xxx
[23:24] <vlt> Hello. I have a UPS connected to a machine running Kubuntu 6.06 LTS. `lsusb` lists it as "051d:0002 APC Back-UPS Pro 500/1000/1500". What nut driver do I need to access that device?
[23:24] <ksal> damn
[23:24] <ksal> on gutsy there was no problem
[23:24] <ksal> hardy sux
[23:26] <aga> lets say i want to install firefox for linux kubuntu what type of file i should chuse? it always ask me with what program i want to open file im bit confused
[23:28] <toxic_> NickPresta: i found the problem: 1) i cant run eclipse when im root ;)
[23:28] <toxic_> 2) i previousivly installed a bad version of eclipse
[23:28] <toxic_> i uninstalled it and reinstalled it
[23:28] <toxic_> sudo aptitude remove ... sudo aptitude install
[23:29] <aga> i be back later i must read FAQ cant bother ppl if i did not read any info :)
[23:29] <toxic_> now if i type eclipse, a new window opens (looks like java)   it says something like no virtual machine available
[23:29] <toxic_> when isntalling eclipse, there were A LOT OF 404
[23:31] <ksal> geez =='
[23:32] <ksal> does anybody know how can i  set my monitor?
[23:32] <ksal> i mean
[23:32] <ksal> any tool to choose monitor that i'm using?
[23:51] <Nece228> after i did updates to my kubuntu hardy
[23:52] <Nece228> xorg dont started until i changed from nvidia to nv
[23:52] <Nece228> it starts now but i cant do anythink with resolution
[23:52] <Nece228> screens and resolution shows me error
[23:53] <Nece228> what i have to do?
[23:54] <ksal> damn