[18:56] <matsubara> me
[18:57] <statik> em
[18:59] <barry> d'oh... ray...
[18:59] <bigjools> fartso
[19:00] <Rinchen> #startmeeting
[19:00] <Rinchen> Welcome to this week's Launchpad development meeting. For the next 45 minutes or so, we'll be coordinating Launchpad development.
[19:00] <MootBot> Meeting started at 13:01. The chair is Rinchen.
[19:00] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[19:00] <Rinchen> [TOPIC] Roll Call
[19:00] <MootBot> New Topic:  Roll Call
[19:00] <mrevell> me
[19:00] <schwuk> me
[19:00] <bigjools> me
[19:00] <Rinchen> yo
[19:00] <herb> me
[19:00] <cprov> me
[19:00] <barry> me
[19:00] <mthaddon> moi
[19:00] <al-maisan> me
[19:00] <salgado> me
[19:00] <mars> me
[19:01] <BjornT> me
[19:01] <thumper> me
[19:01] <matsubara> me
[19:01] <Rinchen> mpt, ?
[19:01] <statik> me
[19:01] <mpt> me
[19:01] <EdwinGrubbs> me
[19:01] <adeuring> me
[19:01] <flacoste> me
[19:02] <Rinchen> apologies from kiko, allenap, gmb
[19:02] <danilos> me
[19:02] <danilos> apology from jtv as well
[19:02] <Rinchen> I'm also guessing Steve is not available either
[19:02] <Rinchen> so releases is here
[19:02] <rockstar> me
[19:02] <Rinchen> bugs is here
[19:02] <thumper> abentley: ?
[19:02] <leonardr> me
[19:02] <abentley> me
[19:02] <Rinchen> bac, EdwinGrubbs ?
[19:02] <statik> bac is getting some food, i'm sure he'll be joining soon
[19:03] <mpt> SteveA_ says "I'm attending in spirit"
[19:03] <Rinchen> thumper?
[19:03] <EdwinGrubbs> I already me'ed
[19:03] <statik> Edwin is already here
[19:03] <thumper> Rinchen: I said me :)
[19:03] <Rinchen> thanks EdwinGrubbs
[19:03] <rockstar> thumper me'd
[19:03] <Rinchen> ok, I'm *really* tired.
[19:03] <BjornT> intellectronica: ping
[19:03] <intellectronica> me
[19:03] <Rinchen> [TOPIC] Agenda
[19:03] <MootBot> New Topic:  Agenda
[19:03] <Rinchen>  * Next meeting
[19:03] <Rinchen>  * Actions from last meeting
[19:03] <Rinchen>  * Oops report (Matsubara)
[19:03] <Rinchen>  * Critical Bugs (Rinchen)
[19:03] <Rinchen>  * Bug tags
[19:03] <Rinchen>  * Operations report (mthaddon/herb)
[19:03] <Rinchen>  * DBA report (stub)
[19:03] <Rinchen>  * Sysadmin requests (Rinchen)
[19:03] <Rinchen>  * New packages required (salgado)
[19:03] <Rinchen>  * A top user-affecting issue (mrevell)
[19:03] <Rinchen>  * Doc Team report (mrevell)
[19:03] <Rinchen> [TOPIC] Next Meeting
[19:03] <MootBot> New Topic:  Next Meeting
[19:04] <Rinchen> 10th, same time same place.
[19:04] <matsubara> Rinchen, I won't be around
[19:04] <Rinchen> thanks
[19:04] <Rinchen> anyone else?
[19:04] <thumper> I may not be around
[19:04] <schwuk> I won't be here - School Governor's meeting
[19:04] <Rinchen> kiko and steve are also not here that week
[19:04] <danilos> I wonćt be around
[19:05] <danilos> ok, that's Serbian Latin keyboard
[19:05] <Rinchen> thanks
[19:05] <danilos> I won't be around for the next 3 weeks (guadec then holidays)
[19:05] <Rinchen> [TOPIC] Actions from last meeting
[19:05] <MootBot> New Topic:  Actions from last meeting
[19:05] <Rinchen> none
[19:05] <Rinchen> [TOPIC] Oops report (Matsubara)
[19:05] <MootBot> New Topic:  Oops report (Matsubara)
[19:06] <matsubara> Hi, this is just a heads up for next week. I'd like to keep two oopses in the radar:
[19:06] <matsubara> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/blueprint/+bug/244957 and https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/245260
[19:06] <matsubara> apart from that, I'll continue with the usual nagging based on the CurrentRolloutBlockers
[19:07] <matsubara> thanks everyone for the effort on fixing the outstanding issues. I really appreciate
[19:07] <Rinchen> I hear sinzui (who's not here) has volunteered to help next week
[19:07] <matsubara> that's all Rinchen
[19:07] <matsubara> yes, Curtis is going to back me up while I'm on vacation
[19:08] <Rinchen> excellent, many thanks to him!
[19:08] <Rinchen> thanks matsubara
[19:08] <Rinchen> [TOPIC] Critical Bugs (Rinchen)
[19:08] <MootBot> New Topic:  Critical Bugs (Rinchen)
[19:08] <Rinchen> we have a few but I know the status of them all
[19:08] <Rinchen> they are actively being merged into a branch destined for PQM
[19:09] <Rinchen> So I won't cover them here
[19:09] <Rinchen> Are there any questions about any of these?
[19:09] <Rinchen> https://edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-project/+bugs
[19:09] <sinzui> me
[19:09] <Rinchen> :-)
[19:10] <Rinchen> Ok, since I have the floor...
[19:10] <Rinchen> after bigjools's branch lands, RC is closing
[19:10] <Rinchen> pqm will open
[19:10] <Rinchen> (after the update of course)
[19:10] <thumper> eta?
[19:11] <Rinchen> 2 hours at least
[19:11] <BjornT> Rinchen: we're not waiting for that storm fix?
[19:11] <salgado> BjornT, already landed
[19:11] <Rinchen> BjornT, there are 2
[19:11] <Rinchen> 1 is landed, other is in bigjools branch
[19:11] <Rinchen> (the librarian patch)
[19:11] <BjornT> ah, cool. misread the e-mail sent to the list
[19:11] <Rinchen> I'm just missing the review for EdwinGrubbs branch and we'll be set
[19:12] <bigjools> it's probably a good idea if someone else lands it, as I am going out right after the meeting
[19:12] <sinzui> BjornT: You mean flacoste's twisted email?
[19:12] <Rinchen> any volunteers?
[19:12] <BjornT> sinzui: yes
[19:12] <cprov> bigjools: I can land it.
[19:12] <bigjools> the branch is pushed to devpad and the commit message is on CRB
[19:12] <flacoste> BjornT: no, that won't be fixed today
[19:13] <Rinchen> thanks cprov
[19:13] <cprov> bigjools: I will be around 'forever'.
[19:13] <bigjools> thank you cprov
[19:13]  * bigjools thinks that cprov is really a robot who doesn't sleep
[19:13] <Rinchen> if the branch fails, I'm currently thinking of resubmitting it and holding off on the update
[19:13] <Rinchen> anyway, stay tuned to normal channels
[19:13] <Rinchen> [TOPIC] Bug tags
[19:13] <MootBot> New Topic:  Bug tags
[19:13] <Rinchen> we have none
[19:13] <Rinchen> proposed
[19:13] <flacoste> bigjools, the story is that coffee is what actually runs in his veins
[19:14] <cprov> :)
[19:14] <Rinchen> [TOPIC] Operations report (mthaddon/herb)
[19:14] <bigjools> lol
[19:14] <MootBot> New Topic:  Operations report (mthaddon/herb)
[19:14] <herb> Our new OSA in AU started this week. Welcome spm to the team.
[19:14] <Rinchen> welcome spm!
[19:14] <herb> Early Tuesday (2008-07-01) 1.2.6 was rolled out.
[19:14] <herb> Yesterday we did a secondary roll out and we have another tentatively scheduledfor today.
[19:14] <herb> Yesterday a couple of app servers died seemingly without error. I collected logs and notified Rinchen. I didn't file a bug report and we haven't seen any such problems today.
[19:14] <herb> That's it for mthaddon, spm and me this week unless there are any questions.
[19:14] <mrevell> hi spm
[19:14] <bigjools> hi spm!
[19:14] <al-maisan> hello spm !
[19:14] <mars> hi spm, welcome to the team!
[19:14] <thumper> it is 4am for spm :)
[19:15] <matsubara> welcome spm!
[19:15] <Rinchen> herb, it will be really interesting to see if we have any of those after today's (Hopeful) update
[19:15] <barry> spm: there's no sleeping here!
[19:15] <danilos> wake up spm!
[19:15] <mthaddon> he'll be in in about 3 hours :)
[19:15]  * flacoste channels the irc2dream bot
[19:15]  * thumper is SO pleased to have an OSA in AU
[19:15] <Rinchen> thanks herb
[19:15] <Rinchen> [TOPIC] DBA report (stub)
[19:15] <MootBot> New Topic:  DBA report (stub)
[19:15] <stub> The Storm switch caused a load jump on the main db server. Plenty of landings have been made migrating the worst offending pages to storm native code or just fixing whatever issue was caused by the migration.
[19:15] <stub> This extra load of course slowed down other pages too, pushing them over the edge so pages that where previously slow became timeouts.
[19:15] <stub> In hindsight we should have been able to avoid this by tuning the soft timeout on edge and chasing them to zero rather than just worrying about the hard timeouts.
[19:15] <stub> Load is back at more acceptible levels now most of the time. Load of 6-8 is fine. When we spike to 10 things start sucking. We get a couple of spikes during the day when load goes over 12, with the worst offender being the 6:00 UTC load of 20 spike. I can't see what that is from the debug logs, so will need to watch when it happens.
[19:16] <stub> And that is all I've typed so far...
[19:17] <Rinchen> Anything else for stub?
[19:17] <stub> I thought my network had died ;)
[19:17] <stub> Just the conversation.
[19:17] <Rinchen> stub, you'll be around at 6am UTC today to have a look?
[19:18] <stub> Yer - after my coffee and everything.
[19:18] <Rinchen> thanks
[19:18] <Rinchen> [TOPIC] Sysadmin requests (Rinchen)
[19:18] <Rinchen> Is anyone blocked on an RT or have any that are becoming urgent? I know about Thumper's, JML's two, and Soyuz P3A.
[19:18] <MootBot> New Topic:  Sysadmin requests (Rinchen)
[19:19] <Rinchen> ok, that was easy :-)
[19:19] <Rinchen> [TOPIC] New packages required (salgado
[19:19] <MootBot> New Topic:  New packages required (salgado
[19:19] <Rinchen> )
[19:19] <salgado> anything for this week?
[19:19] <salgado> I hope not
[19:19] <Rinchen> dearly hope not
[19:19] <thumper> salgado: do we have the new loggerhead dependencies?
[19:19] <salgado> thumper, no
[19:20] <thumper> salgado: I'll email you later
[19:20] <salgado> thumper, I need a bug against meta-lp-deps and an RT
[19:20] <thumper> k
[19:20] <Rinchen> anything else for salgado ?
[19:20] <Rinchen> thanks salgado
[19:20] <Rinchen> [TOPIC] A top user-affecting issue (mrevell)
[19:20] <MootBot> New Topic:  A top user-affecting issue (mrevell)
[19:21] <mrevell> The main user-affecting issue this week has clearly been that some people have been unable to access their Launchpad accounts. When attempting to log in, Launchpad has given them the error message "This account cannot be used".
[19:21] <mrevell> I understand sinzui has been working on this and that we should expect the fix imminently.
[19:21] <sinzui> mrevell: correct
[19:21] <mrevell> Other than that, we've had our usual batch of "please unsubscribe" me requests.
[19:21] <sinzui> mrevell: The final fix will be rolled out today
[19:21] <mrevell> Great, thanks sinzui
[19:21]  * Rinchen crosses his fingers.
[19:21] <mrevell> Unless we need to discuss either issue, back to you Rinchen
[19:21] <mpt> mrevell, how many of those do you get per week?
[19:22] <mrevell> mpt: Unsubscribe requests?
[19:22]  * sinzui crosses his eyes and toes
[19:22] <mpt> mrevell, and how many of those are subscribed to all Ubuntu bug reports?
[19:22] <mpt> mrevell, yes
[19:22] <mrevell> mpt: Most of them are structural subs to Ubuntu and I'd say I get four a week, sometimes more.
[19:23] <mrevell> mpt: They have no idea how to unsubscribe, but we've discussed that here before.
[19:23] <mpt> Maybe that could be taken into account in prioritizing the relevant fixes
[19:23] <mpt> thanks mrevell
[19:23] <Rinchen> [TOPIC] Doc Team report (mrevell)
[19:23] <MootBot> New Topic:  Doc Team report (mrevell)
[19:23] <mrevell> I posted a Blueprint section of the user guide to the team list. All feedback appreciated, but I understand it's a busy time.
[19:23] <mrevell> Thanks to everyone who's sent feedback on the latest revision of the tour to hit the team list. All feedback gratefull received.
[19:23] <mrevell> That version of the tour content is slightly out of date, so I'll send a revised version soon.
[19:24] <mrevell> No actual doc team news this week.
[19:24] <mrevell> Thanks Rinchen.
[19:24] <Rinchen> thanks mrevell ....just punt the files to me and I'll refresh
[19:24] <mrevell> ok, thanks Rinchen
[19:24] <Rinchen> ok, and one last item.....before we go
[19:24] <Rinchen> [TOPIC] New MOTU Rep - mrevell
[19:24] <MootBot> New Topic:  New MOTU Rep - mrevell
[19:24] <mrevell> As you may know, Jordan Mantha is taking a break from Ubuntu-related activities. As a result, he's no longer our MOTU liaison. Instead, Reinhard Tartler (siretart) has stepped up to the job. Unfortunately, he can't join us this evening as he has a LUG meeting.
[19:24] <mrevell> He'd like to improve communication between LP and MOTU and would like to try out a regular meeting. I've posted details to the team list.
[19:24] <mrevell> I'd be grateful if you could think of ways in which we can make use of Reinhard's time in order to improve the way we work with MOTU.
[19:25] <mrevell> Thanks Rinchen and everyone.
[19:25] <Rinchen> Thanks mrevell.
[19:25] <Rinchen> Thank you all for attending this week's Launchpad Developer Meeting. See the channel topic for the location of the logs.
[19:25] <Rinchen> #endmeeting
[19:25] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 13:26.
[19:25] <Rinchen> not a record finish but early!
[19:25] <thumper> OMG
[19:26] <thumper> thanks Rinchen
[19:26] <mrevell> :) Thanks Rinchen
[19:26] <barry> Rinchen: wow, thanks.  i aspire to keeping the reviewer's meetings as short :)
[19:49] <bac> me
[19:58] <salgado> bac, just 1h late. ;)
[19:59] <bac> salgado: yeah.  but it only took me 10 minutes to read the backlog!
[22:11] <CWii> Did I miss the meeting?
[22:13] <CWii> Yeah, I did :(
[22:18]  * CWii reads the logs